Gopher Football Weekly w/ PJ Fleck 10-28-25

Gopher Football Weekly w/ PJ Fleck 10-28-25

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I think his block this to be two points.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
If he goes all the way, he's in this field,
nobody to pay.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
This will be two for Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Miller Moss with a handoff at another big game and
the ball pop loose and.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Is still fumbling back there and it is maybe picked up.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Let's see who.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Has a Dennesota.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
Welcome to Gopher Football Weekly with p J. Fleck on
the Gopher Sports Network from Learfield, and it's ten of.

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We go No, No, here's the voice of the Gophers,
Mike Grim.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Along with Justin Guard. We are off and running in
the head coach PJ. Fleck is with us as well,
and it is Go for Football Weekly with PJ Fleck.
We're on campus today. We'll be back at the restaurant
next week. Next week's a bye week. We'll have a
couple of players for the show next week out at
the restaurant so on campus and just down the hall
in the conference room from PJ. Fleck's office. And you know,

(01:19):
it was a nice, nice little walk here today and
now it's onto Michigan State. But we do need to
talk a little bit about Isle, you do.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yeah, why but you know, just a right tap.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
I know you talked about it yesterday a little bit
early onslot from them. You talked about during the week
how hard it was to play in that stadium, and
they were clearly jacked up the crowd and blackout, and
before you knew it, it was it was. The game
was on.

Speaker 7 (01:44):
Yeah, it wasn't like our guys were unprepared, not ready
for that environment. I mean they were here. The problem
is the course seven points. We get a chance respond,
we miss a block, We throw a really good outpass,
we kind of lose our footing as we catch it,
get back to you know, we kind of stumble, lose
the yard and then you know, our next play we
throw an incompletion, they go down, get a field goal,

(02:08):
We get the ball back forth play of the game,
pick six, We're down seventeen to nothing. Before you can
blink before you can even you can even fight. I
love how hard our players played, but we didn't execute
at a high level, so bad execution. Love how hard
we played, but you play really hard at doing not
so good things. When you play in Kinnick Stadium and they.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
Play the way they did, it's going to be a
quick night.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
And unfortunately that's the way it went down. It's not
what we accept, it's not what we think is okay,
thirty one nothing with nine ten minutes to go in
the second quarter. That's not a formula for success. So
they also return to pump for a touchdown. So we

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had a great practice today. Our guys would responded tremendously.
Nobody wanted that to happen like that, our players. I
hate this word embarrassed. I don't use embarrassed. I think
that takes away from the credit of a team who
just beat you, and beat you handedly rivalry or not.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
I hate that.

Speaker 7 (03:10):
I hate taking away from people's who work just as
hard as us, who earn a victory and then coaches
go in there and say I'm embarrassed, like I hate
when people talk about that because I think that completely
takes away from their execution.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
At a really high level. We didn't execute and if.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
You don't start fast, you're going to be swimming uphill.
And we were swimming up hill from the start, I mean,
swimming up a waterfall. And unfortunately it happened. And you know,
Garrett I talked about this, did you lose by one?
Did you lose by you know, thirty eight? Either way
lost his stink, And I don't know which one's worse,

(03:51):
but that was really really hard to swallow. And no
one felt worse than our players. It's hard to have
a rivalry game like that, and you know, they they've
obviously had the advantage in the win column and our
rivalry and we've had some some some teams that we
beat like that as well. It's just everybody's got something,
you know, and that happens to be us right now.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
But we got a lot of things corrected.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
And I love the mindset when they came in here, man,
I mean it was you never know, like you never know,
and you think like your culture strong and you think
you have this and you never know, and boy did
I was I proud of them with their response In
today's practice, I mean, maybe one of the better practices
we had, but they because they know why.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Sunday was all about why.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
So what was the why? Take us through the why?

Speaker 6 (04:34):
A little bit.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
Played really hard, executed at a very poor level. When
you don't start fast, you throw a pick six, you
return it, punt for a touchdown, you don't even have
there's not even almost time to respond. It was almost
like a I hate this word too, but like a
shell shock, like I grew up on the teenage minon
newtant Ninja Turtle like arcade game and somebody kind of

(04:59):
gets you in a shell shocked, you know.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
And the turtles would you know, have no power.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
It happened so fast that we couldn't even get into
anything right, And that's a credit to them, because we
had a possession, we went three and out. They got
a possession, went down and got a field goal. We
had another possession in the fourth play game pick six,
seventeen to nothing and you know as well as I do.
You're down seventeen to nothing at Kinnick and then throw

(05:26):
two more interceptions.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
I mean, as a I know I've been doing this
a long time.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
That's that's how you that's how you lose a game
in Kinnick and I'm not taking away that they didn't
win the game. We lost the game, though, like we
did everything you possibly could do to go wrong. Loved
how hard we played. When you lose a turtle better
three nothing at Kinnick, you're not gonna win.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
So how hard is it? When you just mentioned it?

Speaker 8 (05:51):
You go through the whole week, You've got your practices
last week, had the line working twenty five hours, you know,
a day to get things ready, and then that quickly
you know there's gonna have to be a lot of
stuff go right because so much has gone wrong.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Like how tough is that to stay.

Speaker 8 (06:04):
In the moment and make sure you got you get
the fight that you want the rest of the game.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
Well, I think that's cultural, you know, and I think
that's about you know, every play is its own end,
excuse me entity. You go one to oh on every play.
You go one to oh in every game or zero
to one, and our guys are trained that way. And
that was the one thing I thought in the second half,
I thought we played played better, but again it was
it was it was out of control at that point
when you're playing that team. I haven't seen many teams

(06:32):
come back from a thirty one point deficit against Iowa.
And I'm not saying they could have quit. They could
have folded up the tent. We talked in a halftime.
I don't care what the score is. Our season will
be judged on how we come out and play in
the second half. How, maybe not the execution, but the how.
And I thought they answered that bell.

Speaker 8 (06:48):
And that's all you can do at that point, right,
That's all you can do. You can't control the first
fifteen minutes. That's done, that's over.

Speaker 7 (06:55):
It happens in high school, happens at college, happens in
the NFL. And I think it says a lot about
your team of how they respond to that and whether
they can come back and win or not. That was
that was a new point at that point. What I'm
talking about is the actual effort, the drive, the willingness
to go out there and fight and compete and swarm
around the ball. And I was really proud of them

(07:18):
for that. But it's it's a very helpless feeling.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
That was my question. And you don't want to be
in games like that, but you know it's going to
happen at some point when when you're as a head coach,
walk in the sideline. I know you'd like to take
notes and you know, collect your thoughts. What is it
like you just GrITT in your teeth? Are you just like,
let's get this thing done. What is the emotion of
a head coach when you have to, you know, kind
of rumble through something that happened like that.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
I don't think it's ever.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
Let's hurry up and get this thing done, or we
would have ran the ball starting the second half.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
It just made it as short.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
As possible and say, hey, let's make this score look different.
We came out, we're going to put things together to
go come back and win. And that's what I love
about our team. And unfortunately, when you do that, we
turn the ball over again and they.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Scored off of that.

Speaker 7 (08:02):
So I could have sat there say, okay, let's just
you know, fold up the tents. Let's make this not
as a blowout as we possibly can make it.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
But we fight, man, and just wasn't our night at
all in.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
Any phase, offense, defense or special teams. And that's my responsibility.
It's all of our responsibilities. I mean, I love, you know,
I'm a head coach that will. I love standing up
saying that's on me because it is on me.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
It's all on me.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
But what's on me has to get fixed from everybody,
and that's my job to get every single person, coach, player,
support staff to get better. That's my job. Because we
didn't get better from Nebraska to Iowa in the way
we handled the game. I don't even know if we

(08:51):
got better because I didn't have enough time to see
if we did get better because we were in four plays,
we were down seventeen to nothing.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
But you got to give them credit.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
And that's why they have built something that I don't
think you'll ever see again in college athletics. And there's
a reason I think, you know, I give a lot
of credit to Kirk as you know. I mean, it
is a on our end, at least my end, it's
a respected rivalry because it is something that I don't
think anybody will ever see again. But when he talks,

(09:23):
he talks about why would I stop. I'm having way
too much fun after twenty seven years of building it,
and I'm not saying it runs itself. Because to keep
that up there has to be an enormous challenge to
all of them. But they have an identity, they have
a way they play and when they get you in
the way that they want you to play, they got you.

(09:46):
And I knew this, Drake and I had multiple conversations.
And you can coach and teach as much as you want.
It's a little different in Kinnick.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
We haven't won.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
There since nineteen ninety nine, except for two years ago.
Like I'm just telling you, it's a little different.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Got it.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
It's just a little different, guys, We got it. But
there are a lot of players that we play because
of our developmental program that are young that was maybe
their first time.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Playing in Kinnick.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
It creates it's it's been the think back to it.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
Was it twenty ten? Michigan States is a twentys of.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
Michigan State goes into Kinnick undefeated and gets beat like
thirty seven, sent like run out of the stadium.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
That was the year they won the Big Ench Championship.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
It's like the Bermuda Triangle, you know, And at least
for me, and maybe it's not for other people, but
and that's something that every head coach has.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
You look at every head coach.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
There's whether it's a kryptonite, whether it's a you know,
I'm just doing as much as I possibly.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Can explain it to you.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
I mean, but it can't be something that gets in
people's heads. And it's not in our heads. We take
one game a championship season. But when you do have
a young quarterback and you're explaining to him throughout the
week what that's like and then you get in it,
I think sometimes you got.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
To learn from the failing.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
We all have to learn from the failing of going
in there and not playing at our best from the start.
If you don't put a drive together to match that score,
it's gonna be a long afternoon.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And what's the follow up with Drake?

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Then?

Speaker 6 (11:16):
After? What'd you learn?

Speaker 9 (11:18):
Then?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
What do you say?

Speaker 7 (11:19):
Lard said exactly that, Hey, I heard you, but wow,
you know that was that was just a little bit
different of an experience, and you know, I won't let
that happen again. He takes accountability for it's not his fault.
I mean, he gets everybody's fault. I mean from we
had a Pumper Tury for a touchdown. I mean our
defense gave up you know, two three quick scores. I mean,
holy cow, and it's everybody's accountability. But when you're at

(11:43):
the quarterback. You want to say, like, how could I
have been the reason we won? And if I wasn't
the reason we won, why was I part of the reason,
and be very honest and transparent with that. I think
he's done a great job of responding to that.

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Lindsay to throw does over the middle and that is
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Pressure and sacked the first sack of the day for
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(18:15):
three and two. A lot of games still to be
played all the we're eight weeks in. It's there're eight
games in the season. Feels like me, it's flying by.
I think a couple of weeks ago you told me
I was crazy. You think it's it's it's it's it's
felt like.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
All of eight weeks.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Everyone, every single minute of those Yes, it just happens
that way. And I haven't had many seams. I'm like, man,
that flew by. But you know, I don't know what's
what's worse. This is for you for credit, for you
the head coach on the sideline of the second half,
or the play by play guy that has to you know,
you're keeping everybody entertained through voice as well. So first

(18:53):
of all, I appreciate you I have. First of all,
I have no idea you might have just bashed me
the whole time.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
I'm not sure I.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Would never Let's roll the clip. We don't need to
we don't need to roll anything. Let's go to that
one that he actually did. We don't need to do that.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
But I pretty cool, like even what you said with Kingsbury,
like there's there's a bright spot like there.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
The thing is, when you peel.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Back the edit on that game, there are there are
so many things that you just throw out like yeah,
but there's so also some things that nobody wants to
hear this, but there are some really good things that
happened that are covered up by all the mud, filth
kunk and unfortunately that's that's how it went, and that's
that's not acceptable whatsoever inside these this program. And you

(19:34):
got to give them credit though they they played really,
really well.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Do you?

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I know you were asked this yesterday the it's five
and zero at home owing three on the road. I
know the schedule dictates some of that. Those are three
hard places to play, do you? And I know you
study a whole bunch of stuff you put into what
do we want to do on a road trip? So
how much do you talk about what do we got
to do to get started quick on the road? And
I know it's not a road game this week, but
you've got a couple coming up with some unique ccumstances

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a baseball field and a Friday night game in your
last two road games.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
Everything deserves its own attention, right and you give it
the credit that it deserves. But I don't think you
overdo it one way or another. It's not like, oh man,
we got to play on the road, and oh yeah,
we're back at home. It is all about we'll play
in a parking lot, We'll play wherever they tell us
to play. We'll play whatever time they want us to play,
because it's our job to get them ready. And the
way we're prepared is similar, it's not exactly the same.

(20:26):
You're changing it each week based on where you're headed.
What is it going to sound like? I thought we
did a really good job preparing him inside the endoor.
I just never got a chance to really kind of
see if that preparation really paid off because it was
out of hands so quick, and that's part of it.
You can't ignore that. When you get attacked like that
so quickly, and you get shell shocked like that and

(20:49):
you're down that quickly, you know, it says a lot
about your team, the character moving forward from that point on.
And I thought they did a great job leading and
great job playing and work their butts off, and that
gave that that there's a lot of hope coming from
that game, even though that one was already out of hand.
And apologized all of our fans. I mean, that's that's
not what we want. That's not the product you want

(21:10):
on the field. But every coach has gone through there
you know, and fortunately I've.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Seen it in a lot of different areas.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
I've seen it against when I was at Western Michigan
against the Hawkeyes, and I remember Kirk Ferrens meet me
at midfield after that game and said, looked at me
and tilted his head and said, been there and shook
my hand. And this one he came. He shook my
hand and he was like, it's one of those days.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
You know what. He's so right.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
He couldn't he doesn't have to say a word to me.
He didn't just shake my hand and walk by. He's
like one of those days. I was like, you took
the words right out of my mouth, like, yeah, can
you go do my press conference?

Speaker 6 (21:47):
You know? That was really nice.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Would you mind talking just go down the Ryan Burns
and Randy and talking Andy greeedor for.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Me, that'd be great.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
Yeah, he did say that, and driving home in his
radio post game, he said, you never see that come right,
because why would you. You can't show up and expect
that all that stuff's going to go.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
You seeither way exactly, like almost truly either way, you know,
when you're looking at the rivalry game and even on
offense when it goes your way like I didn't. You know,
you're you're you're seeing how things play out. I mean
Maryland last year E said, I saw that coming.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
You don't really see.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
You prepare your team and then however the game UNFOLDE.
You prepare them for every situation so they can respond
to that, and then sometimes like that game happens.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
And he's a very wise coach.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
He's been around a long time, and his words to
me weren't some coach cliche. You know, I'm just gonna
say this, a good games, stay healthy, you know.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
I mean everybody says that, you know what.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
I mean, like, look, yeah, good luck, Hey, all the
best of the future, go get them, you know, but
this was more like, hey, you know, uh, you know,
it happens like and he's right, and the unfortunately that
happened to us, And that's no excuse whatsoever there.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
I mean, it was. It was as bad as it
could have got.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
So you've said a couple of interesting things in our
post game interviews this year, like a cow where you've
talked about, you know, maybe I overthought it with the
sleep and all these things that we were doing. I
think this week you said, did we put too much
stuff in that I put too much stuff in?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Was it too complicated?

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Things like that?

Speaker 8 (23:09):
How do you balance the emotion of the moment when
you're trying to think of all of it. You obviously
had a bus ride to think and then you know,
Saturday night Sunday morning to try to figure out, you know,
the reflection part of it in terms of getting the
team ready. Did I do too much? Did I not
do enough? Am I just not thinking clearly in the
moment because it just happened? How do you balance all
of it as you move forward to try to get
ready for the rest of it.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Yeah, part of that is the postgame press conference is
maybe one of the most reactionary, maybe uneducated, maybe some
inconsistency in what you say, because you have me watch
the film. You're going based on how you felt it
from the sideline. You're looking the iPads, you're you're adjusting,
you're constantly moving. It's always the next play, so you

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have a really good feel of it.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
But a lot of.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Times it's not as one hundred percent accurate as you
might be thought it was. It's never as good as
it was, and it's never as bad as it was.
And I know a lot of people have I just
said that, No, it was as bad as we was,
there were still some really good things that happened that
I think just it happened so fast that I couldn't
even evaluate how we were going to be able to
perform within the game plan. And again that responsibility falls

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on me because we have to start faster. It wasn't
excuse me, it wasn't too much.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
We didn't have it.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
We played so hard but executed at such a poor
level and made some really bad decisions that we touched
the stove. And when you do that, you don't even
really get a great evaluation of how that could game
could have played out. When you're down thirty one to
nothing after the first quarter, I mean that is a
tough sledding right there against the team that is not
like a normal team.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
To come back against them and think you're going to.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
Go score forty five points in the second half. I
don't know if anybody's ever done that so versut them,
especially there. But I think the reflection piece on the
bus ride back, the film on the way back, then
the next day, film over and over and over, it
wasn't too much. You question yourself I mean, the first
person that you question is yourself. How could I have

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prepare them better? What could I have done? Is there
something that I didn't cover that I didn't do right?
And look, as a head coach, you also got to say, Okay,
I did that. Maybe I didn't do that as much
as I should have. Nope, I did that. I couldn't
have done that anymore at an exhausting level. But we're
still dealing with eighteen to twenty two year old young
people and you can have that, but they're also going

(25:28):
to not be perfect as well, and they're going to
have to learn the hard way or the easy way,
and sometimes you got to learn the hard way by
going through it yourself. And that's why we're there. We're
not there to sit there and say, hey, guys, this has.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
Nothing to do with you.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
It's all me and it's all the coaches, because we're
in the whole thing together. Every single person inside this
organization has to take accountability for what happened. I will
take the most accountability, one hundred percent. But if you
have a really good team and a really culture, a
good culture, everybody wants.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
To take accountability for that.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
And when you came in around Sunday. Everybody, I mean
everybody did and that's what you want to see. And
I thought today's practice was as good, if not the
best practice we've had of the fall. And I give
them credit because that's that's really hard to do, pick
people off the ground after a game like that, because

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that could go a lot of different ways.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
And you want to see your guys get up off
the mat. So you like that today in terms of
what you got from.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Them, Yeah, because those all player driven, you know, I mean,
we can come in and set the tone. This is
what we're gonna do. This is unacceptable. This is why
we watched the film. But then as coaches, right, bad
teams nobody's leading.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Average teams. Coaches have to like.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
Lead the whole time, and then elite teams players lead.
We're kind of in the mix between that elite and
coach period, right, because there's sometimes we have to because
we do have a lot of young players at key positions,
we have to like infuse that leadership more than ever.
And then there's some positions you got to step back
and let them do it. So every position has its
own feel to it. But I think our coaches had

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a really good balance of that yesterday and Monday with
tons of guys in the building constantly, and again, we're
not a reactionary program where you panic. This isn't about that.
This is about we're zero and one in Iowa. Whether
we won by one point or got blown out, everybody
was going to be disappointed if we didn't win that game.
And I've never had anybody say we're not disappointed in
twenty nineteen.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Because we were close. That was just as devastating as this.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
So when you lose, everybody puts so much into it.
At every school, every NFL team, all week, we all
do close to the same things for preparation. And when
you put that in there and you don't get what
you what we strive for, that hurts and it hurts everybody.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
That's why you see the hurt because it's the time invested.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
It's not just the result, it's the time invested that
you see that.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Now you start back over at zero and.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
On the flip side, that's why you enjoy the winds
and body surf and do all that stuff right.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Absolutely, because it's really hard to win. It's so hard,
and I ever take winning for granted whatsoever. I'm not
built that way. So yeah, when we win, we're going
to embrace that moment to accomplish the one and oh goal.
When we don't, we're hurt. You know, you're devastated. You

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got a five hour bus ride to think about it
the whole way back. But that's where you grow the most.
That is where I think some coaches are at their best.
And I think that's where some coaches are at their worst,
and I think we're really good at it. And uh
to respond, all.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
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and then we're back at the Tipsy here the following
week as well, leading into that Friday Oregon game. So

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that is the schedule for the next couple of weeks.
On campus. Today we will preview Halloween. Yes, it's mister
Flex's one of his favorite times a year, so we'll
talk about that. This is Gopher Football Weekly with PJ.
Fleck Fromlearfield Back Go for Football. Welcome back, Go for

(29:33):
Football Weekly with PJ Fleck. We're on campus today Minnesota
and Michigan State at two thirty kickoff on Saturday. JG
will take air along with all of us at twelve
thirty in Gopher fans, don't miss out on the Gopher Garden,
the pregame fan fest. It's presented by Huntington Bank. Located
on Oak Street outside the stadium. Gopher Garden opens three
hours before every home game, of course, including this weekend.

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Catch the Gopher Football Tailgate radio show. Enjoy the Pride
of Minnesota Marchie Band's pregame concert, and experience all the
excitement leading up to kickoff and guardsy. Oftentimes we'll have
special interview guests and other folks up on the stage
and what face painting and bags. I'm not doing any
face painting No, there's a lot and I don't even

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know if there is anymore, but there's.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
A lot of stuff. You should come out. It's a
hell of a time it is. It's a great vibe.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
It's very fat, it's a good vibe. Right now. You
walk into this football building and there's goblins and monsters
and skeletons and chains hanging all over. It's a it
is that time of year. And I know you guys,
you always dressed up as Jim McMahon. We've seen that
picture floating around when you were a young kid in
the Chicago suburbs, the tough Chicago or the headband and

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what was he number nine? Right?

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Number nine?

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Number nine QBQB.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
Absolutely, And I know, I know you appreciate your wife
circulating that photo to every TV network the last eight
years to make sure that that gets in there. That's
a tradition like any other. And I know you're very
pleased that that photo saw the light of day.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Sure am the one that has me wearing when I'm
a kid, the Wisconsin Badger T shirt. For some reason,
you're the red one that circulates too, which that one
got a lot of traction just because my family used
to vacation at Saint Germaine, Wisconsin. And uh, that one
gets a lot of traction, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
So you know, I never know how it comes back
to haunt you. How your life?

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Well you play? I mean you you don't at least
have a tattoo of your alma mater like one big
ten coach does of a rival school.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Right, No, I definitely don't have that.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
That's always fun too. You got to figure out how
to cover that thing up when you're coaching down the
down the road and I think it's all it's all good,
it's all good. If we can't laugh about it, why not, right,
you've got PHILOSOPHI thank you, yes, thank you. That's why
I am im partying my yah, thank you, thank you.
Write all that down, please do, please do. When when
you're fifty five years old like I am today, Happy

(31:52):
birthday for me. Yeah, yeah, you know what you know
that's old. I'm getting old. No, you're not. What I found.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I told guards you this.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
What I found is when you get of this age
and you start messing up, you can just say getting
old and people say, yeah, you're right, and then you're
you're kind of it's Okay.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
So what you're saying is like for Saturday, I said, hey,
sorry about that, everybody.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
I'm just getting old forty three four, Yeah you could.
I don't know if I don't think forty four is
a cut off on that one though, like dog years. Yeah,
that's true, that's true. That that that's true. You get
to put through.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
The say that though Kirk Ferris has been doing this
twenty seven years as.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
A head coach.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I mean, yeah, he's a tough week to say that,
a really.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Tough we get a tough week.

Speaker 7 (32:39):
I always think about, Okay, how could somebody say, like
what is he talking about? Because he can compare that,
and of course with Kirk Farence that wouldn't make a
lot of sense.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
And still a young pup.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
You've got everyone dressing up right on Thursday and the
kids coming in Hope Kids as the annual Halloween trick
or treat time.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah, one of my favorite events. This is huge.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
You know, Nurice Wilson helps put this on and ton
over one hundred plus Hope Kids come in and you know,
we decorate our entire facility and kind of a hunted mansion.
We got all types of games, all of our players
dress up. A lot of our coaches kids come here
because I mean it's it's unique because Friday's Halloween, right,
So we're in the hotel on Friday, So we've got

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to kind of balance that with our own families. So yeah,
I think it's really really good for our program. It's
one of the best events to watch those kids really
smile and have a great time.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
And I think.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
Nourie Wilson goes all out, that's for sure. It makes
this place really have that Halloween feel.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
I said that it's your favorite holiday, but really it's Nourice, right,
He's it's his favorite holiday.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
I think, right, Yeah, it's my least favorite holiday. It's
Nurice's favorite favorite holiday.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Yes, wrong with Halloween.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
You know, I don't have my kids all the time, right,
and you're working during football season, and I usually don't
get them for Halloween, so you know, yeah, and I'm
not really there at times to pass out candy and
you're coaching and sometimes I am sometimes I can be,
and you know, you just never know what's coming to
that door.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
Yeah, that's the thing in Minneapolis, in a big city,
and you've talked about this.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
We have a lot of transplants, right, like.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Oh, absolutely, just in our neighborhood.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
Kirk Farens is not worried about a Gopher fan showing
up at his door wherever he lives, right, I'm guessing
Luke Fickel not a lot of Gopher fans pulling through
Madison or Middleton or wherever he lives in Minneapolis. Crapshoot
all these great Fortune five hundred companies. There's some people,
which is funny in a way because I know you've
had a lot of fun with that, but it's not
always ideal.

Speaker 7 (34:35):
On Halloween, Yeah, there's been people who dress up as
Heather and I and that's always good. They'll do you know,
the lady will have the sleeve and tattoos and you
know her dark hair and.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
And you know, and some guys.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
I've had one kid show up and I told you this,
he goes, you need to run more slants, and I
was like, his dad's like twenty feet from him, and
you can see you. After the kids said it, Dad's like, yes,
he did his son, and then you know, I mean
he got cold.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
And then yeah, exactly, he walked and we got a pencil.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, a kid got a pencil tooth brush.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
Well, see we've got the got the full side stuff.
We got multiple stuff. And then depending on if somebody
says happy Halloween, go gophers, row the boat sky Mico Gophers,
Happy Halloween.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
Trick or treat, you get the full You go to
the garage and grab a car. And if you say
all that this is this is fair, it's not equal.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Yeah, right, you come up and don't say anything and
stick your bag out there. You're getting a pencil, Yeah,
you know, maybe a pro tractor.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
What if a kid comes up wearing a you know,
a Nebraska uniform or or an Iowa uniform or something,
what do they get?

Speaker 6 (35:42):
And I'll usually let Heather handle those. They get corn?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah, he's right, give him a cap of corn?

Speaker 6 (35:48):
Right that.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
I can't imagine what here? What's coming to the door
this year? So it'll be great.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
But you have had someone dressed as you show up
at your door.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
For canning multiple every year, that's all. It's not just one,
it's multiple. One year we had it was great. Well, Uh,
there was a there was a kid that was Paul
christ the kid who was Jim Harbaugh, and then there
was a kid who was me.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
Together dads were all behind there.

Speaker 10 (36:11):
You know.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
The dad don't come up with the kids for the
most part, but you could just see him back there.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
And then same thing. Dad's in the back, Hey, ask
him about this?

Speaker 7 (36:18):
Yeah, and then the kids kind of like the kids
looking at me, like, first of all, I could care
less who this guy is, right, you know, dad cares uh,
you know, but you always like to go into Halloween after.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
A win, you know, and this one, you know.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
So yeah, I'm not even sure if I want, probably
won't even be there.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
So it's Friday night before the game, right.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
I'll be with I'll be with the players.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, exactly. All right, let's take another brother, Oh no, talk,
go ahead.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
Well, no, I had a question that's not related to anything.
But I'm just interested in the head coaching perspective of
things because I don't know if you saw it, because
you're you're locked in here. But Carson Wentz his season's done.
He's got to have shoulder surgery, and now the reports
are coming out that he he played like two and
a half games with a pretty debilitating injury. And the
line is always, you know, the trainers and you always

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talk about the medical staff gives me the information. But
I'm curious what the line is with player conversations with
medical staff in terms of having to protect players from
themselves or can you hurt it anymore?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
You know, I'm getting at a little bit because the.

Speaker 8 (37:20):
Second guest right now, and I'm not asking you the
second guest koc is, nor would I write, but how
do you Because Carson Wentz wants to play, right if
he says, I'm I'm out here, I'm playing, and the
doctor the.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Eyeball might say, goy, this kid's getting killed. But we're
watching Thursday and going this is rough.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
And now he's got season ending surgery and he was
obviously dealing with something really painful. So how do you
handle You've never had to handle something like that, I
don't think, But just take me through how you handle
those things with all the moving parts that are in there.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
Well, I can only speak based on my experiences one
as a football player right in college and pro, and
then two coaching in the NFL, and then three being
a head football coach at the MAC and in the
Big Ten. And the great thing about how we at
least do it here is I don't have any say
whether a kid plays or not. You know that is
all Mike Sipniyak, our entire medical staff and and I

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love that piece. We have amazing doctors who will do
everything they possibly can, high and low to protect our
student athletes. And I love that piece because there were
a lot of times I probably wish as a player
somebody would have stepped in for me, but I was
too bone headed. I think as a football player, you
always want to play. I think there's a threshold of
what's hurt, what's injured. There's a balance of what can

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I play through what can't I play through. There's also
the factor of there's certain players who can play through
more than other players.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
There's a there's.

Speaker 7 (38:40):
A threshold based on who you are, and I think
that has to be handled with the medical staff with
white gloves that it always is. But you start to
get people's personalities of who can who can't. What are
they saying when they really can, what are they saying
when they really can't.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
What's the medical report say.

Speaker 7 (38:58):
I think that's one of the hardest things to dictate,
is because it is a violent game. This isn't something Hey,
I just I got a bruise on my knee. There
are things that am I hurt, am I injured? What's
the difference. Something that could be an injured for one
guy could be just hurt for another guy.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
You watch certain positions.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
Play through a torn acl, well, so why not you
couldn't play through a torn acl. Maybe you can do
that as an offensive line. Maybe every case is completely different,
and I think that's what makes it unique, if every
person needs to be handled completely different. So I can't
speak on actually what's going on with the Viking piece.

(39:38):
I would or would I, but I can only speak
on what we see every day. We talk about the
injury report every day. I get a personal meeting with
our medical staff. Our staff gets a meeting together with
our medical staff. And you have to listen to the
player too, because the player has a say in this
as well, but the doctors have a saying it well

(39:58):
as well. So it goes into the a little bit
of a formula, and then you make a decision and
then end game. That's all depending on how you know.
You're not sitting there. You know you're looking at the player.
You're seeing how he responds, You're seeing how he gets up,
You're asking him on the sideline. The doctors are taking
care of that they go into the tent.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
You know.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
That's why I don't go into tent. That's not my business.
It's somebody else's business.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
I'm not the doctor. I got an eighteen on the act.

Speaker 7 (40:24):
I mean, I don't know what's wrong with these guys,
but I do trust our medical staff. I think there's
a fine line. Because it is a violent sport. Each
kid can play through more than less hurt injured. There's
a big difference. So I don't know if I answered
your question. I just think that there is this there's
a global, global approach and every case is handled completely different.

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But I can't tell you how many times I was
hit on the field and it hurts so bad and
I get back to this sile it's still hurt. But
then I could I could play through that. I could
get through that. And then there were certain times like
there's nothing I can do about there's no way I
can play. So I think there's that to that that
goes in from the trainers to the medical team and
then the player. I think there's a balance to all

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three of those things.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
You've got you say, daily meetings, enter just even as
if it's an email to say, here's the list.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
Of what's no email, I face to face.

Speaker 7 (41:13):
I have a personal meeting every day with Mike Sipniak,
our trainer, who talks to me in my office just
about with Garrett turn off our GM about hey, here's
what the report looks like in the morning, and then
we do another one in the afternoon, and then I
usually grab him before he leaves because it can change
throughout the day. It changes pre practice, it changes during practice,
it changes after practice, And that way I can get

(41:36):
a feel and make decisions game plan wise. A guy's
going to be there or not. What are the percentages
guys gonna be ready on game day? What are the
percentage he goes in game day and we probably won't
have him.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
After the first second quarter.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
Those are all the things you talk about because it
affects your game plan. And that's where you know Darius
was a little banged up going into the game, dealing
with a certain thing that happened to kind of a
jog through and during the week and winning the game
and game plans for Darius thought he was gonna make
it comes out one play. Things change pretty quickly, right,

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and you've got to be able to respond.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
And Bob and weave with all that is that then
not specific to the injury. But then does Mike just
come up to you in the game and say, hey, coach,
he's he's done.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
If you ever watched Mike sit, they act during the game.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Which I do by yeah, that's part of my job.

Speaker 7 (42:28):
I think I was told a long time ago. Timing
is everything the problem.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
With during in game, There's really never ever good time
to say, hey, maybe your best player's done for the day.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
Yeah, because when maybe the offense is off and he's
dealing with an injury. With an offensive player, I'm on
the defensive side working with the defense to stop the offense,
and and then it goes to special teams, and so
I'm constantly on somebody's line working with them whoever's.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
On that side of the ball. I just don't stand there.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
Sometimes you think you're just standing there doing nothing, constantly
working back and forth and to the other side. And
Sip will always I always feel Sip and you'll see me.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
Sometimes they just start working my way away from Sip.
I see him coming.

Speaker 7 (43:09):
I'm working my way because I don't know if I
want the news you don't want to hear. But sometimes
I'm in the middle of talking to these it's like
I get to tap on the shoulder, coach, sip, give
me thirty.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Seconds, like the clock's running, like we're right, is a
four minute or two minute? Like it give me one second.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
But he's so good that we've worked so well together
over the years, and he's so good he can deliver
that information. Then I've got to get it delivered from there,
because once he gives it to me, then it's got
to go to special teams offense or defense. We got
to work that thatp chart. It's got to be done
in a quick timely manner.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
Is he hurt? Is he down? Is he out for
the game? Down? Is different than out for the game? Down?

Speaker 7 (43:45):
Hey he's back? Okay, Hey, I'm taking him in the
locker room early. Do you want us to take him
in now or do you want us to wait?

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Like?

Speaker 6 (43:53):
Those are the things that on top.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
Of the offensive, especially if you're getting that information as
a head coach.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah, and then adjusting however, however it happens to be
the adjustment.

Speaker 7 (44:03):
Yeah, And that's the chaotic part about it, that's that
you somewhat enjoy as a head coach.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
So yeah, all right, let's take our final break. We'll
come back. We will preview the Spartans. They are coming
to town for to thirty kis. We don't have to
talk about the Ioway game anymore.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
No, no, yeah, in the second half, yet.

Speaker 7 (44:23):
You remember what happened in the second half to be,
I have no idea after the first nine plays. I'm
sorry to laugh about it, but truly I don't want
anybody on this broadcast thinking like I take that lightly,
like that is that was. That was a really, really
hard fifty four hours.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
And I'm just thankful we got to Tuesday and.

Speaker 7 (44:43):
Our guys came out and did exactly how.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
We had to respond. And I truly.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
Apologize to our fans because they're the ones that you're
you're fighting for because they support you so much and
you want them to be proud to go for football
and I completely failed h at that job.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
So apologize to everybody.

Speaker 7 (45:01):
I do not take it lightly, but anybody who knows
my personality is to not just just a wallow in
yourself pity, find results, find a way to respond, find
a way to move on, and find some type of
positive from it that you can grab and find a
way to you want to know the next week and
really respond in a positive way, no.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Doubt about them. Hey Gopher fans, you can get your
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Man get our in studio producer Paul Rovnak with Go
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Chandler Bunning Our last remaining moments here with the head
coach Pjfleck. Two thirty kickoff Michigan State and Minnesota. What's
the scat and report on the Michigan State Spartans.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
You can't look at the record, that's for sure. This
team's really really deep on defense. Corners play really really well,
lock you down and press coverage Joe Rossy type defense,
and they're gonna keep things in front of you. They're
gonna give you a lot of different looks. They're gonna
play relentlessly. They've also on offense and the quarterbacks. They're
probably gonna play both quarterbacks, which we understand and know
and have to have a plan for both. Really good tailbacks.

(48:23):
You know, they're they're tough and they're physical. They fly
off the ball. They got one of the best receivers
in the entire country, if not one of the best
in the Big Ten, and they score points on everybody,
So I mean it's a Big ten.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
I mean, anytime you play somebody.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
You should throw every record out because it doesn't necessarily matter.
I know there's maybe one or two that are in
maybe a different league right now that are playing at
that type of level, but everybody else, I mean, we
got to play our best football. We got to be
able to establish how we play, and we got to
play weight letter.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
We did last week all right, home game.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
It was a great scout on report and that's all
the time. We have what beautiful Gopher Football weekly with PJ.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Fleck from their field.