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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How's it going with the man? Things are good? How

(00:01):
about you? I'm good.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm a little surprised your long sleeves on this steamy
October weekend ahead.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
The air condition is on in here. It's the chilly
little chilli for you in here, is it?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm not a big air conditioning person. Yeah. We diverge
greatly on that topic. For sure.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Mine's always on. You know, my significant ls. She keeps
the house really cold. Yeah, so I'm walking around with sweatshirts.
You are, Yeah, you know you're not a fan. I
have to go sit outside just to warm.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Up in Minnesota of all places. Imagine that, you know.
I'm I'm with her. I do like it a little chili. Well,
it's great to be with you on this first Saturday
in October, the finest sports month on the calendar. I
think most would agree is I think you got this
wild hockey officially this week, and you're freshly signed and

(00:51):
minted number ninety sevens.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I mean, you guys have to be giddy. It's hockey time.
Hockey time.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
How well, I know you're both enthused by the signing
of Carill, But what are our hopes for the squad
this year?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
How optimistic are we? Well, for me, if if they
can stay healthy. As always a major concern with with
the start of any season, the air sport is that
keeping your best players healthy and keeping them on either
the floor, the fill or the ice for as long
as as you can, you know, brings hoping to optimism,

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and right now, you know the while have a great
deal of that.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
What do you think, mister Blake Moore, Are you nervously optimistic,
cautiously optimist, optimistic or are you completely done with your squad?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
I would say I'm cautiously optimistic. They've had a good
couple of preseason games to end the preseason with essentially
what will be their game, you know, opening day squad.
Zucarello's out for a while, Brodeine's out for a while,
so we'll see how they manage with that. But I'm
really excited now that Carill's done. I was really out
on my like I was not watching preseason because I

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was so pissed that this Carill deal was not done.
I just wanted it to be over and done with.
Now I'm all in. All my chips are back on
the table boy. Oh he was so good last night.
See yeah, it was this last night.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, eight years, one hundred and thirty six million, the
richest contract.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Did you guys think that when this.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Got all the dust cleared pen to paper, that he'd
get the richest deal ever?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Was that a bit of a surprise to you that.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
It was pretty well known? I mean, the first deal
that he turned down was the rich was going to
be the richest deal ever. He actually got one million
more per year on the second time, and that's what
got it done. And I'm sure there you can't prove it,
but there was probably tampering from other teams saying, hey,
you know, if you wait one more year, we'll pay
you this. So I'm sure there was a little bit
of that involved. That's just my speculation. We knew it

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was going to be this way, but that's how the
game is played. I mean, you and me know from
Jordan Love, we made him the highest paid player and
it lasted, you know, a couple of weeks until Dak
Prescott signed his deal. So it's just going to be
that way. That's how the game is played. And it's
assumed that the cap is going to go up pretty
high next year and so on.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, Deak looked like the highest paid LAS week. I
don't know why I brought that up.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
We'll get to that later. Wild open up Wednesday in
Saint Louis. You'll hear it right here on your home
for Wild Hockey one hundred point three FM, the Fan.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
And Snuggert and Saint Louis Blues. Correct.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, More importantly for me, the Wolves have a game tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Your Timberwolves hit the court for the first time this
season in exhibition fashion in Denver to take on Nicola
Jokic and the Nuggets of all places. I don't think
it's I don't think it's televised. Are we Are we
carrying it? I don't think the fans carrying it. I
don't know if our sister stations are. I'm not sure
we've got you.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I'm sure it'll be on the Timberwolves channel, but we've
got Gophers Ohio State tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But I thought maybe you know, one hundred eleven thirty
AM might have it. But I'm not sure it's going
to be on the radio tonight. Maybe Atlid will furiously
text me and go, hey, you can hear the Wolves
right here, But I'm not positive TV covered might be
the Timberwolves. iHeart channel the place to listen to uh
and I don't think it's on TV, which which is
a shame because I got one of those weekends where
the wife of a friend's cabin so I've got the

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house to myself. And it's like the worst possible football
weekend for me for football viewing.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Not just Alabama and vambilt I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Silly me, the Classics standoff between Bama and Vandy. Although
Vandy's pretty good, no personally, so the Packers are on
their by, Indiana's on their by, so neither of those
teams are playing. There's just one game today featuring two
top twenty five teams against each other. That's Miami Florida
State tonight and tomorrow's NFL Slate. There's only one game

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featuring two teams with winning records. It's Seattle hosting Tampa Bay.
Otherwise it's a whole lot of men. So I'm for me.
First weekend in October, this is like sports time. I
got one thing that I'll be focused on this weekend.
It's at one o'clock today, Brewers Cubs game one, Alds
American Family Field and the eighty five degree whether that

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we we will be enjoying here as well.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's very nice thing. I mean, the fans are really
enjoy this.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
That the weather is eighty five plus I don't like
All of a sudden, I don't like it, and they
get playoff baseball along ago with it.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Nobody wants to go to playoff baseball and sit except
for you sitting eighty five degree.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well, this is the best time to be outside.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
There should be sixty three with a crisp breeze and
those orange and yellow leaves flying in front of your face.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
That's October this. I saw the weather last night. It
might hit ninety today. You know, funny we talked about
October weather right now. My recruiting trip weekend to the
University of Minnesota was the upper seventies, low eighties in
what October in nineteen seventy eight when I came to.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Visit and global warming was it really a thing back? No,
it was not. It was not.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
It was seventy seven when I came to visit October
seventy seven. No, it was the weekend that the Gophers
knocks off the number one team in the country, the
Michigan wolver Raines, and I was like seventy five almost
eighty degrees in October. Everybody said, this is a bad
cold place to live. You know what, may not be
a bad place to go to colge No, it worked
out rather well. Funny, you should mention the Gophers knocking

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off the number one team in the country. They have
a chance to do that tonight in Columbus against the
top rank defending national champion and it may be in
up the seventies once again. Ohio State Buckeyes. Is that
the case? I haven't seen the Columbus weather. Tough task
for your goal.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
First thrilling game last week, Drake Lindsay with the great
winning touchdown drive to knock off Rutgers like a good
thoroughbred and a claiming race. Though they're moving up in
class this weekend to take on a Buckeyees team that
does not allow teams to move the football. Matt Patricia
is their defensive coordinator, remember him, the old Patriots coach Lions.

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They've raised some experience to the table. He's got that defense.
Humm and now the defense. You know, all these guys
in Ohio State are four and five star recruits. I mean,
they get whoever they want. That's part of it. But
they are giving up an average of five and a
half points per game five right now. This'll be their
home Big ten opener tonight. They have the number two
defense in the country five and a half points a game.

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A game you score a touchdown tonight, you're winning. You're
you are beating the curve against the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Twenty three and a half point. Favorites are the Scarlet
and Gray. It'll be on NBC tonight, so the Gophers
get a little NBC love tonight. Of course you'll also
hear that on the fan four to thirty pre game

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today on the Fans six thirty is when things start.
Its homecoming in Columbus tonight. To make matters even tougher,
they'll be fired up. Big question again, is Darius Taylor
going to play?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Still? Has it played the last couple of weeks. You cannot.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
This goes without saying, you have no shot against Ohio State.
If you are going to have Drake Lindsay drop back
and try to throw at thirty thirty five times, to me,
you may have to, well, you have to. Gamescript might
call for it. But if Taylor's out there getting at
least three to four yards, so you're facing second and
six is and not you know second.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
But if you know that, you're going to be a
one dimensional team. So now you have to game plan
on how we're going to protect the quarterback to give
them time to move the ball down the field. I mean,
because if you're missing a key component and you know
that throughout the week and you don't plan for that, well,
then you know, shame on you. But I'm not saying

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that you can go into a house state and be
one dimension and to beat them, But this is what
you're dealt with. And so that now the best thing
to do is the game plan say, hey, we're going
to may have to throw the football fifty times to
have a chance to win.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
That's it's not a great recipe though, no, I mean,
but you know it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
We all we know that you like to have balance
with the run in the past, because all of a sudden,
now it sets our play action and holds the linebackers
and you can keep the defense off off track. But
if we don't have our running back and our running
game intact, well this is going to give us the
best chance to win. So we have to game plan,
but then tell those guys up front, Hey, you're going

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to be trying to keep this front four, front three
or whatever it may be off our quarterback as much
as your canceled.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Get prepared for that.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
It'll be a great test is the wrong word, but
a great opportunity for the Gophers to.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Hey, we did it in seventy seven, why not do
it in in twenty five.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, it's true, it's less than fifty years. It's time
to repeat it.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's been twenty.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Five years since the Gophers beat Ohio State. The year
two thousand, they have lost thirteen straight to the buck Eyes,
and they've only beaten them three times in the last
sixty years, so more Look, a win is obviously far.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Fashion going to Penn State and knocked them off at
one point in time when they was ranked very high.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, I believe so, yeah, Yeah, there have been opportunities,
so it's doable. It'll be interesting to see because the
Gophers defense has been very good, they haven't faced, obviously,
an offense that's as efficient and as productive and explosive
as Ohio State, led by their all world wide receiver
Jeremiah Smith. That'll be a really stiff test for the
Gophers to see if they thks for the draft this year.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
He's not. He's just a sophomore, so he will be
I think the he's got to come back for another
year and terrorize the Big ten.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Potential top pick in twenty seven. Yeah, he's he's not
going anywhere. I mean, obviously he exploded as a freshman.
He hasn't had the huge numbers yet this year, but
long way to go. New quarterback kind of working his
way in and as the games get more important, Jeremiah
Smith will flex. But a really just a good test
for the Gophers to go up against a team like this.
It's like my alma mater, Indiana is going to Oregon

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next week. You know, Yes, they blew out Illinois and
they got past Iowa. Now you're gonna know what you got,
you know, going into Oregon against that team. And that's
how I feel the Gophers. They'll they'll just kind of know,
this is how close, how far this is as tough
as it gets. So primetime at the Big Horseshoe NBC,

(10:50):
it's a great platform for your Gophers in front of
the nation. It was just playing fun, just compete, making
a ball game, So what you can do?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
A lot of eyeballs on you guys who are at
the next level. We'll be at this game watching Ohio State,
so it's time now for you to show them what
you can do as well. And as a football team, hey,
just go in and let it all hang out. There's
no need to be afraid because no one is giving
you a chance to win. Anybody like you mentioned what
twenty three point underdog cart going into this football game,

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So just let it all hang out.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
If you want to get excited about college football today
getting ready for the go Ferst tonight, you want to
watch some Division one football at your University of Saint
Thomas team has their homecoming today one o'clock hosting color
homecoming everywhere an eighty five degree day in Saint Paul
at Saint Thomas, And if you want to watch some
great football and a good value, I would say that's

(11:44):
not a bad thing to do on a sunny October day.
Watch some college football at UST and then watch your
go Ferst tonight. Make a day of it. Okay, it's
football time. It's the first weekend in October. Your Vikings
are in London getting set to take on the Browns.
We will dive into that matchup. Lots of NFL conversation
during these two hours and some NBA as well. As
the Wolves take the court tonight, we will chat about

(12:06):
the prospects of the twenty five twenty sixth season and
the team they're playing against. Denver considered maybe, along with OKC,
their biggest challenge in the West. Glad to have you
along for the ride. You are in the zone.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'm the fan. We're back eight nineteen on a Saturday morning.

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You're in the zone.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Trentucker, Dave Sinnecon, Brett Blakemore. We are here till ten
o'clock is always. Fantasy Football Weekly follows us at ten
today and as I mentioned, Earliers Football six thirty kickoff
on the fan. Pregame at four thirty. Gophers Buckeyes also
available via NBC tonight. Meanwhile, we are about twelve hours

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away from kickoff in London at Brett Blake Moore's second
favorite stadium in the world in Tottenham, as your Vikings
gets set to play second consecutive game overseas against the
Cleveland Browns. The walking wounded we like to call your
Vikings like banged up unit getting set to try to
salvage something out of their two week trip overseas. Aaron

(13:35):
Rodgers looked pretty good last week against your Vikings.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
He did what he needed to do. Vikings were just
not great.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Right against the run, they made Kenny Gainwell look like
Jerome Bennis and obviously offensively, it was a disaster. The
offensive line trend is a it's the talker for this team.
You know, it's you bring in those guys, the free agents,
and you hope that injury and age are not going
to creep up and be the story, and unfortunately they

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have been. This team is an absolute disaster up front.
It's going to make things very difficult against the best
defense they're going to face this season. It's just not
a good time to play the Cleveland Browns. I'm not
sure that sentence has ever been uttered by the way.
This is not a good time to play the Cleveland Browns.
But of all defenses, for a banged up team and

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its offensive line to have to go up against with
a quarterback that's not your usual guy and all that,
it's not a great matchup. Though the Vikings are three
and a half point favorites to take care of business.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well you know, you're not talked about this coming into
the season, and I think a whole lot of other
people who cover the Vikings and then watching the Vikings
they talked about this as well. Offensive line has to
do a job, especially with a new rookie quarterback behind them,
to protect him, to give him a chance and find
their comfort zone that he's looking for and to be

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able to make plays down the field. And now he
has a replacement in place who is not the most
mobile guy like he used to be because of injuries
as well, And if you can't protect him, then your
offense can't work. But saying all of that, you know
the Cleveland Browns, you know they have a very tough
time scoring as well. Yeah, no, defense is pretty good.
So we're going to face the rookie quarterback tomorrow morning

(15:18):
over in London. So maybe it is time for us
now to force some turnovers and put some points on
the board from the defense as well.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
That might be the only way either team scores is
either defensive scoring or turnovers that set offenses up the
over under. The total in this game tomorrow is thirty
five and a half, which is the lowest total in
the NFL. This season, and it's not a surprise. I
just want to get a win, understood. Yeah, it could
be three nothing, you'd be fine. Let's okay with that.
You talked about the Browns rookie quarterback Dylan Gabriel gets

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the start, replacing Joe Flacco. Gabriel a guy. He's five
foot eleven. He was a third round pick, famously taken
with Shader Sanders still on the board, and then they
come back a couple of rounds later and at Sanders
to the mix. He's the third string quarterback on the
depth chart. Flacco is still number two. Interesting thing about Gabriel,
you know, he is a rookie, as you said, and

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making a debut against of Brian Flora's defense does.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Not sound ideal, right for as for a rookie now.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
He's he's probably older than a lot of quarterbacks that
have been playing in this league for a while. He's
played six years of college, starting at Central Florida, then
he went to Oklahoma, and of course finished at Oregon
and was really good at Oregon. What I find interesting
I heard the stat a day or two ago. Gabriel's
really good, at least he was in college, really good

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against the blitz something like sixty three touchdowns and seven picks.
When facing the blitz like he's under he's able to
understand what's happening, deal with the chaos in front of him,
and get rid of the football. Well, he's going to
face the blitz a lot tomorrow and obviously in NFL correct,
And you have to just think about what's going through
this kid's head, right, He's way to his whole life

(17:00):
for this opportunity. He'll be the first quarterback ever to
make his NFL debut overseas, which is kind of a
fun nugget for him to store away for when he's
a you know, sitting on the rocker, you know, and
has his grandkid on his knee and is able to
tell that story. And by that time there will probably
be teams you know, based in London and based in
Dublin and who knows. But what a what a tough

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first test for Dylan Gabriel. But you have to expect
Kevin Stefanski a always motivated to play against the Vikings
right the place that got him his not his start,
but certainly got him his head coaching opportunity. And he
understands what he's up against. In Brian Flores and what
they will do to disguise looks and create chaos and

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make him uncomfortable and not understand what he's seeing with
guys look back, they're blitzing and dropping back and moving
all over the place. They're going to hand the ball
to rookie quin Shawn Judkins all day and see if
the Vikings defense can stop the running game, because if
they're able to move the ball on the ground, it
obviously makes things a whole lot easier for their rookie quarterback.
And the Vikings know this, and they're going to have

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to somehow. You know, no Blake Cashman still on ir,
no Van Ginkel, the guys that are out there playing,
you know, in that front seven, job number one is
to stop Quinn Shawn Jenkins in the running game. Job
number two will then be create turnovers and make Dylan
Gabriel make some mistakes.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Well, and right now you know that maybe the recipe
for success, you know, going into the game tomorrow is
because we have a rookie quarterback and we had to
put a great deal of pressure on him to see
how well he can respond on the consistent pressure. And
we know the Vikings can get out to the quarterback.
They have the defense that can that can make plays

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here or there. So if the defense has to come
to the rescue tomorrow and put some points on the board,
I'll take that if you.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
If you want to know who Gabriel might be throwing to,
he's got limited options. They just put Ceder Tillman on
ir are the returner is out this game. Jerry Judy
drops more catches than he catches. They'll rely on their
two tight ends. We just you know, Brett and I
watched the Browns and the Packers a couple of weeks
ago and got a good feel for you know who

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you should fear in quotes in the passing game in
Cleveland and the David and Joku, Harold Fan and this
rookie tight end. Those are the guys that Gabriel will
be looking to. So it's going to be in comment
on the Vikes to watch where those tight ends are.
That's going to be the nookie blankie for Gabriel because
they just don't have explosive playmakers on the outside that
can beat you. It's all gonna be over the middle,

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stuff inside and see if the Vikings can contain those
tight ends. Because that's going to be the target for
Gabriel all afternoon.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Where it's the game the Vikings have to win. I mean,
there's no if and bus about this. Somehow, some where
you have to win this football game. That's the only
thing they should be thinking about. I know, we're dealing
with a rookie quarterback. They got a rookie running back.
Is the team that is very good on the defensive end,
But the only thing they've met is when we leave
London tomorrow, what it is late in the afternoon or

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early evening time in London.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
We have to leave this part of the world with
the victory.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, you come home two and three if you lose,
and you have a bye week to think about the
two losses overseas, and then we know what the schedule
is like coming out of the buy it again. It
could look totally different when you play the teams, like if,
for example, you know you've got the Ravens coming up, well,
the Ravens right now are a complete disaster. They had
their whole teams hurt, including Lamar Jackson. So if you

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get Baltimore in a few weeks where they're not anywhere
near hole, it doesn't look as formidable as it did
a few weeks ago, and that could be with any game.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
But just looking.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Overall the schedule, we know that on paper, the schedule
gets a whole lot tougher out of the by and
a win tomorrow puts you.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
At three and two.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
That's probably what you figured, you know, worst case, that's
where you want to be through five games. Looking at
the schedule, I want to go back to the Vikings
offense for a second, because you've got Carson Wentz back
under center, maybe for the last time. It sounds like
JJ started to get back to practice a little bit.
I thought, you know, a couple of weeks ago when
he got hurt, that let's get him fine through the by, right,

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give him this time to make sure he's fine, and
then another whole week to rest and hopefully he's back
in week seven when the Vikes are back. So Wentz
gets the assignment against this Cleveland defense, and again the
story is the offensive line. You've got a center starting
who has never played center, like at any level, like,
he never played the position of center. Blake Brendel, he

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will start at center. He's a guard. We know that
Ryan Kelly's out with the concussion. We wish the best
for him. Not sure when or if we will see
him again. His backup, Michael Jurgen's also out. That's why
Brendell's starting at center. No Brian O'Neill, no Donovan Jackson.
You know, as a Packer fan, you know Packers were
without three of their top seven linemen last week, including

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their two their right tackle and their left guard, who
were the two highest paid guys.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It makes a difference.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Like you can be feel pretty good about your top
six or seven guys, that's ideal. Once you get past
seven in the NFL, it's a crapshoot and you are
just holding your breadth that these guys can hold up.
And that's what the Vikings will be doing tomorrow. When
Joe Huber, an undrafted rookie, is playing left guard, and
he looks across the line and he sees, well, well,
see is Miles Garrett. They'll see even even rookie Mason

(22:22):
Graham out of Michigan looks really good. They've got They've
got so much talent, uh in that front seven, Elik Collins,
Isaiah Maguire on that line, those guys are all playmakers.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
They have a really nice rookie class. We can run
the ball to them all.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Like you mentioned, if Cleaning can run the ball all
of a sudden, now that takes some pressure off the corner.
Nobody runs the ball on Cleveland though. That's the problem
to have to. I mean, at some point in time,
you got you know what you have to do? Yeah,
and you know do you have the will and and
and the strength to go out and and and and
make it happen. It is because if if Carlson Wentz

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has to drive back and thirty football thirty five forty times,
that's just not good for us. But somehow, some way,
the most important thing is that when you get into
that locker room tomorrow morning, you want to tell yourself,
we have to win this football game. I don't care
how we have to get it done, but we have

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to win this football game. So everybody bring the best
they can bring. We are not the most complete team
from a health standpoint, we all know that, but we
have to bond together tomorrow and the only thing that
matters is winning this football game.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
One of the good news for the Vikes it looks
like CJ. Ham will make his debut for the season.
That's a perfect time to have your blocking fullback back
in a game. You know your offensive line is going
to be stressed all day, so having handback would be huge.
And for the Browns, they may be without their cornerback
Reg Newsom, which would be a big loss for them,
and maybe allow Jefferson and Addison to find a little

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bit of wiggle rum to get open and.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
It makes something happens may come into play.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
You know, we need some We need everybody tomorrow to contribute.
We need everybody to make a play here or there,
you know, offense, defense, special teams, you know, wherever it
may come from.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Let's take it.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know, be a guy that can make a play
here there to put the team in a good situation. Hey,
it may come down to a field goal type game.
And if our field go a kicker can stay consistent
like he has been, that just might be enough to
get the job done well. And Will Record was a
soccer player and a soccer fan way before he thought
about football, and I know it. I saw a story
this week where he's beyond thrill to be kicking in

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Tottenham Stadium, a place where he's watched soccer. Speaking of which,
Brett's favorite team the Tottenham Hotspurs just to finish off.
Leads two to one, So we now have your full attention.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
For the nice to see us. Yes, welcome to the show.
Two to one your squad one, congratulations.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Thank you, Cleveland Brown's, Vikings Wolves.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Let's go. You guys are off this week. Huh yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I much needed early by a week for the Green
and Gold after that disaster in Dallas. Are you Conday
right about your team? No, I'm not going to say
I'm concerned. I was very let down by the defense
of the second half. I mean it all turned again
for the second straight week on special teams. You don't
block extra point, you know, it takes a fourteen to
nothing game and now it's thirteen two.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Also a turnover, yeah right, a bag dropped the ball,
yes again.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
But quarterback got stripped at the end of the half,
and that certainly, and again I didn't like that whole
sequence where.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I was running clock out.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Right, now you got the ball with thirty seconds left,
take a shot on first down. Well, they get a
penalty in first out, so now you're backed up at
that point at twenty twenty five seconds left in your
own twenty.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Just going to the locker room.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
You're up thirteen what was it thirteen nine? I think
they had just scored, so it was thirteen to nine.
You got the lead. Dallas is going to get the ball,
just go Instead, they tried to get fancy, and now
of a sudden, Dallas scores, and you're trailing at halftime.
After dominating the first half and obviously the second half,
Green made was lucky to escape with a tie. The

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way things went down there at the end, I just
was very disappointed by the defensive collapse. That defense has
looked so good for three and a half games, and
suddenly Dak looked like Dak was outstanding.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
But they understood how to attack Michael Parsons. They know
him better than anybody else in the league, and Dak
was able to get rid of the ball very quickly.
But also the offensive line knew where he was coming from.
They were they were well in tune on making sure
that Michael Parsons did not have a huge impact on
their football game.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Michael was credited with ten pressures, which is an outstanding
night for any pass rusher. He got the one sack
late that probably saved the game because Dak was about
to score he didn't look like he didn't sack the
guy four times, but he did get ten pressures, which.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Is going forty was final score? Do we have to
go there? Well, let's not Michael. Michael Parsons had no
real impact on that football.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'm just saying he was credited with ten pressures, which
is that it's not just Micah out there, it's the
other guys that didn't.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Well, that's the guy take advantage of the attention.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Guy that that Jerry gave to you guys, and the
big sign says thank you Jerry. In a game like that,
that's the guy that you would depending on to make
a difference. Michael Parsons had no real impact on that fact. Well,
he got the last play here or they own Zach.
But if if the linebacker who was guarding the receiver

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at the end of the game, if he would have
turned around easy picked six, I mean easy interception to
end the football game. And you guys, like you said
you got that's why MICA's fault at the cornerback didn't
turn That was like a loss for the Green Bay Yes,
sure felt like it because you guys were in control
of the football game and and we all know the
doubt Dallas Cowboys defense terrible, can't stop anybody. I didn't

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like the fact that that that that that that that's
surely a.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Bad taste in you.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
And that's why the bye weeks situation with by week
good and bad. Right, you're banged up. You want to
get your guys healthy, but to have to sit and
stew about that for two weeks is tough.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
And sorry about your team right now, I'm concerned. I'm
not that concerned because we get those linemen back, go
to Cleveland. The offense doesn't do a whole lot. Yeah,
I guess the team that you should have destroyed.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right, No, No, even Detroit looked like they blew out
Cleveland last week, scoring thirty four points, but if you
looked at it, they they only had two d and
seventy yards of offense. They they're they're they're creating turnovers.
That Detroit defense that that made that Cleveland game look
a lot. Tell you what, It's going to be tough
for any team to move the ball in Cleveland if
they stay healthy.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
That's what I said. Browns are tough. But I still
believe right now the Lions. The Lions are the team
and now the vision to.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Be no, you're not alone. I'm sure most people think
that way. I just I'm old enough to remember Week
one when the Packers completely dominated Detroit on both sides
of the football. And again they'll get another chance at Thanksgiving,
but no, very disappointing performance by the Pack Sunday night
to finish in a forty forty.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Times Your head, coach is you know what is he doing?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
What do you mean because like you said at the
end of the first half, just get off the field
with the leader, get into the locker room and reset.
He's trying to make these big plays here that the
leads to a turnover and then.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
He almost ran the game clock out.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Of the end.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It was.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
It was like watching a horror like being in a
horror movie. It's like, of all teams, this offense knows
how to move in a two minute situation where the
clock is ticking. It's like nobody had any urgency. Nobody understood.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Love's giving the let's huddle up sign with twenty seconds
left in the clock ticking, Like are you kidding me?
Get guys lined up and just throw the ball out
of bound so you can get your kicker out there.
They were so lucky to be able to down the coach.
Could you believe there was a second left on the
clock at that point? I mean, I mean, if I'm
surprised in Dallas, the just kid the clock running exactly.
I mean in New York City that game would have expired,

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that game would have been over, and you guys would
have been on the field jet but have been downs
one second. Hear that everybody in New York would have
been off to the field, in the locker room, dress,
in the shower, and the referees was said, I'm as
secure to you guys got we have no games over.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
They were very.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Lucky that Bob bounced the way it did down instead
of upper A bit a whole different story. All right,
let's pause here. More NFL conversation. We come back our
number two. There will be lots of NBA and w
NBA conversation. The finals are going on. We don't care
about that. The FISA has spoken up, spoken loud, and
we'll chat about that in the nine o'clock hour as

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well in the zone returns. After the We're back eight

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forty three on a Saturday morning, mister Blake Moore hit
the in the zone, breaking news sounder, all right, what
you got? You told me as we were coming back,
Breaking Wild news.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Russo Baum the Wild have agreed to terms on a
five year, thirty four million dollar contract extension with goaltender
Philip Guffstafson six point eight aav SO done deal.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Gus Bus here to stay.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Gus Bus is back. What kind of money is that
for an NHL goalie? Is that high end goalie money
is that?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Where?

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Where does that run?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
I feel like that's pretty solid. I don't know have
the numbers off the top of my head, but that's
he's earned every penny of it. He's been really good.
I think the term is good as well. It slightly
concerns me because I really want wallstet our young guy
coming up to succeed, but I don't think a five
year is enough to really hamper him long term. So
I love the deal. I think he's great, think he's

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earned it. And here we go.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
You neath that, get gone season hits the ice Wednesday
night in Saint Louis Wild and Blues to uh kick
off a new hockey season, and the Gus Bus is
signed sealed and delivered for the next five years.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
It should be very happy, I would think so. It
should be only the Wild just throwing money at everybody.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
All you know, all the pieces of the company. Guther
who else wants to get paid?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
With real concern about a week ago here or there?
Kind of team we're going to have? Can we sign
the best players? Can we keep them? Can we keep
them in the state?

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Those perezy suitor contracts come up, you start splashing the
cash a little bit, a.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Little bit, and all of a sudden, now you know
in the front office in Saint Paul, and they have
gotten the job done.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
What are the reasonable expectations you guys have for the
Wild this season? What would constitute a successful NHL Wild
season for you guys?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think the answer is obvious, right, get out of
the first round.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
That's a success. That's gonna playoff win, Yeah, you have
a series win. Yeah, it's as simple.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
As it's as short as that. Get out of the
first round and I'll be happy.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
How we were with the while of the Wolves about
twenty five years ago.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Get out of the first run and see what happens
from there. Yeah, just get back to me once we
move on to the second round. Now that's something to
shoot for. We will talk NBA in the nine o'clock hour.
I want to get back to the Vikes for just
a second. One stat that we didn't touch on that
has to be concerning to not only the Vikings but
the fans is the penalties. The thirty seven penalties through

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four games, that's second most in the NFL. You just
I don't know that. You know, Green Bay's also had
an issue with penalties, and it's just infuriating, isn't it
when it's non disciplined.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, you got good coaches, you know, you believe in
your coaches, and you feel like, you know, again with
Green Bay it's the youngest team in football. You got
that little excuse like, well, these guys don't know what
they're doing.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
They're young.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
The Vikings are not one of the youngest teams in football.
This should not be an issue. And you know, in
a game like this where you're down a number of
guys and you are still favored to beat you know,
a very mediocre Cleveland team, you know, if you can't
get those penalties under control, you're going to let teams
like Cleveland hang around. Let's stick around, and so that's
that's got to get cleaned up in a hurry. Correct, Yes,

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it's it's not acceptable. And you've got a bunch of
new linemen. Now you're worried about holding and all kinds
of you know, motion penalties because they're not used to.
Got a center that's never snapped the ball, a guard
that's an undrafted rookie. You know, you can talk all
you want about Brian Flores and your great defense and
all the playmakers, man, but when your offensive line gets
completely annihilated like the Vikings, it's so hard to compete

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against anybody.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, you know, our defense that's to step up and
get it done. I mean, for you take the Barlimore
Ravens when they won Super Bowl. The offense wasn't the greatest,
where Ray Lewis and the boys say hey, we got
your back. And right now our offense is struggling with
Andrey's here or there, and you know, so the defense
gonna have to step up and say, hey we got

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your back.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
It starts with stopping the run. You know, you can
it can be all fancy you want with what is
our safeties coming?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Are they going? We're so crafty nobody.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
You better stop the run first, because that's all Cleveland
wants to do tomorrow was run the ball.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
The defense is said, Hey, we now expecting that offense
to go out and put up twenty five to thirty
five points.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I don't think they're going to get to I don't
think either team gets to twenty to them.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
So he's going to be up to us to make
or play here that hey, we got you back until
you guys can get healthy on the other side of
the ball, it's our job right now to get the
job done.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
That's why it's calling the team game.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I think it's a It's one of those games that
you're head into the buye with the Vikes where you're
going to kind of get an idea of what you
got and you're still missing a lot of key players.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Obviously, you're going to get a bunch of win.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
To just get a win, and we'll worry about all
the other stuff down the road. But tomorrow, right now,
can't worry about the injuries. We can't worry about what
the schedule's going to look like after the buy only.
The only thing that matters right now is that we
have to beat the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think it's a nice advantage that the Vikes were
overseas already and Cleveland had to fly in this week.
That that has to make some bit of a difference tomorrow,
just body clocks and comfortability and all that.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Maybe you got that little edge I think going for you,
which is nice. But we know the players haven't been
home for two weeks. Being on the road for two
weeks is a long deal, and I would a sudden now,
you know, even though you get used to being their
way home for two weeks, but it's still still it's
still a big task. So let's see how mentally they
will be prepared to play against this Cleveland Browns team.

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And like I said before, it's a game that we
have to win.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
The coverage of the fan begins tomorrow morning, bright and
early at six thirty am with Vikings Football Sunday. That
means no Packer preview, which we wouldn't be on anyway
because you buy it. It's a bye way, So it
actually worked out well. We would have been preempted. There
is no show. We'll be back next Sunday previewing Packers Bengals.
Bengals come to Lambeau next Sunday kick off for your

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vikings at eight thirty.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Pa lowers the boom at that time on the fan
one hundred point three FM. And you know, Bray gave
me a nugget when I was when I was walking out,
he said, well, you know, right now he's not concerned
too concern about the Packers. When you look at the
next four games, you know, you guys, you know, need
to come out three and one.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
If you come out two and two, yeah, it might
be a little wobbly.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, it's the sort of soft underbelly. The next four games.
They've got home games against the Bengals and Panthers and
a couple of road games in between, at Arizona at Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
You know, the Arizona game could be a tricky one.
I think Pittsburgh could be a tricky one. Against Aaron
Rodgers on Sunday Night Football. I mean that's tricky too.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah. Kyler Murray is you know, you know he's he's
a wildcard fan. He is.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I go, he can have one of those games where
he's like playing the video game.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Remember back when we were doing our previews at State
Fair and Arizona was my sneaky playoff team in the NFC.
I'm not feeling so confident about Arizona. Their defense is
pretty good, but Kyler is just such a wildcard, and
they lost James Connor.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
You know, you know, against the Green Bay Packers, he
gotta have one of those games where he's running and
run like he's on the video game and no one
can control him, and all of a sudden he posts
up big numbers and you'll blame me Micah for everything. No,
I'm not blaming mic for everything. I'm just saying that,
you know, against the Dallas Cowboys, Michael Parsons did not
have a major impact on the game.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, I mean I'm not saying I don't know how
many more than ten pressures and a sack one.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm not saying that he won't have an impact on
your season.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
He also, I mean you also look at that all
the pressure on him. You know, there's a lot going
into that game, obviously, but he's the guy that's gotten.
He makes splash plays, but he made his presence.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
He makes more money than any other player other than
the quarterback. Correct, so the pressure comes with that. This
is what he asked for, So.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Should he have had fifteen pressures that have made you
a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
If I was a Green Bay Packer fan, I need
him to get the Dak Prescott once or twice doing
the game so they don't put up forty points.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I would like to see that. I ain't asked me
to get seven sacks.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I would like to see where Shaun Garry or Lucas
Nas do that too, when they're not being double teamed
every when.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
It's set and that Lawrence Taylor got to the Okay.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Mike Parsons compared to right Brena not Yeah, so Mike
Mica needs to do a couple of lines of coke
like Taylor did for every game.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Give him the proper frame of mind.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Now, don't go to the personal stuff we talked playing
it was a factor Lawrence Taylor and Michael. Michael Parsons
is compared to Lawrence Taylor as a football player. Now
what he did aught to feel that has nothing to
do with the conversation. Okay, Mike, when it came down
to making the play I needed. If I'm a Green
Bay Packer fan, I would like to see it in

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the game of that nature.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Michael Parsons made one or.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Two plays so that Dad Prescott doesn't put up forty points.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
That's what I'm saying. He ain't got to get twelve sacks. Well,
he only put up thirty eight because the special teams
gave him two. Okay, so you want to be particular
about it.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Detroy Lions was trying to drive the ball down the field.
Who made the play? Michael Parsons got to Jered Goar.
Everybody in Green Bay went crazy. Okay, That's what I'm
talking about. Michael Parsons is not was not brought to
Green Bay to make to get eight eight sacks a game.
He was there and he was able to get one
or two big plays in the game back against the

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Dallas Cowboys to make a different That's what Michael Parson
is there for.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
I just think the fundamental disagreement here is our due
pressures count as affecting the game. I think that's where
this split is because we're saying we got a bunch
of pressures like he was there, he's getting double teamed,
and I feel like that's not counting as affecting the
game for you. And I think that's just where we're
kind of disagreeing here.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
No, because because when I pay a guy that kind
of money. Dak Prescott still put forty points up. If that,
If Dak Prescott puts up thirty five because he made
a player here, there got a different conversation.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
That's the difference in the game.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
When we go back to I'm gonna go back to
two three years going to Super Bowl. If the Philadelphia Eagles,
with the best defense in the NFL at that time,
to make one play, Jaden Hurst has two Super Bowl
Championship rings. If if the San Francisco forty nine Ers
with Jimmy Jimmy Garoppolo as a quarterback, if they could

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have made one of two more plays during the game,
the San Francisco forty nine Ers would have won the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
They have the best, best defensive team in the game.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, they put pressure on on on what's the quarterback
over in Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
His name's Patrick mahind Mahomes, but they didn't get to him. Well,
I'm just gonna say that the difference in the game.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
You got to be able to make that play when
you were considered the best at what you're supposed to
do at some point in time in the crucial situations.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Like tackling him before he scores in overtime. Maybe like that.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You got to get the quarterback on the ground, and
the guys that come up with the big time victory,
they get that quarterback on the ground.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, and I'm just gonna give Dak a lot of
love for the performance. They got the ball out of
his hands fast, and it made sure that the Packers
pass rush couldn't get to him. That's the game plan.
That's what Cleveland's got to do tomorrow to the Vikings.
Get the ball out of Gabriel's hands. That's what the
Vikings have to do with Carson Wentz. No seven step dropbacks.
Just snap the ball and get rid of it. Because
quarterback look a whole lot better when he's not being

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announced to survey the field and deal with your offensive line's.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Issues in a crucial moment.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I mean, you know, I was watching the Vikings and
the Steelers and all of a sudden, it's a close
football game.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
But they couldn't get that Aaron Rodgers when it needed to.
Same deal, he got rid of the ball quickly, right.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
So what I'm saying that, you know, I can put
pressure on the guy, but we got to get him
on the ground.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
So he doesn't make a play.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I you know, I even talked to my kids about
in the hockey situation. I said, yeah, you were there,
but he can't get that shot off. If you allow
him to get that shot off at that time, something
bad could happen to your team. So you got to
make sure in that moment. You ain't gonna stop him
every time, but in that moment, you got to make

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sure that he doesn't get that shot off from that spot.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
And that's the difference.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Between when in the losing and when you're talking about
being very successful at any level of sports. At some
point in time, you got to be the guy that
can make that play, and if you don't, the opposition
is going to have a chance to win the game.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
And I'm not and that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
I'm not saying that you got to make a play
twelve times in a row, but at some point in time,
you got to make that stop. And I go back
to the ninety three Bulls. We were down by four
points with forty seconds ago. We had to get three
stops to win the game. If we don't get those
three stops, you not calling me an the NBA World champion.

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We had to get it done. Phoenix Sines made a
great run. Charles brought to Kevin Johnson, Dann Rowley, you
name it. They got all the best players, but Michael
Jordan and Scottie Pippen. They had to make those stops
when they was on the floor and they were able
to get the job done.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Good thing Michael wasn't on your team, or they probably
would have coasted the right pastor that.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Hey you know, hey all, I'm saying you guys got
the best defensive guy to fit that situation. He's got
to come up big for you guys in the critical moment.
If you guys want to win football. We'll pause here
top of the hour. We'll come back and switch gears,
talk some hoops, including the FISA Colliers League shaking comments
the other day, and the Wolves have a game tonight.
Let's talk some Wolves hoops in the upcoming season. When

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we come back. Our number two in the.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Zone hour back nine oh two hour Number two in

(44:48):
the Zone Trent Tucker and Dave Sinecon hanging out as
usual on.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
A Saturday morning.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Fantasy Football Weekly follows us one hour from now go
for football tonight six point thirty.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Your Gophers takeout.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
The top ranked and defending champion Ohio State Buckeyes. Pregame
begins at four point thirty on this very radio station,
your home for sky Yuma, Go for football. Tough one
tough task for PJ and the boys tonight against the
unbeaten and top ranked Buckeyes.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Meanwhile, let's talk some hoops. We'll get to the Wolves
in a moment. They begin their preseason schedule tonight in Denver.
The WNBA Finals began last night. We're bored with that
because the links, of course, are not in them. Their
season ended unceremoniously last weekend in four games, the last
of which head coach Cheryl Reeves was not allowed to
be available, suspended for her comments on the officiating following

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Game three. Then, of course, after the season, i Fisa
Collier made headlines for her statement that she got up
with about a four or five minute statement about where
she as one of the premier spokespeople of the WNBA
and leader of the players, as you all have heard,
was went full frontal on Commissioner Kathy Engelbert on the

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state of the league, the officiating, how the players are treated,
and she left no stone unturned in a very impressive
brave in my opinion, performance and not performance, but statement
and how she feels about where this league is headed
in a very critical time. We know that the league

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has grown in popularity in leaps and bounds in the
last few years, led by some really transcendent players that
have joined the league, most notably Kitlyn Clark. And of course,
the most quotable comment that came from fees statement was
when she quoted or paraphrased Engelbert's comments about Kaylen Clark,
who should be on her knees in gratitude, thankful for

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the platform the WNBA gives to allow her to make
the sixteen million dollars she made off the court, which
is ludicrous.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
In my opinion.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Kaitlin Clark's popularity has nothing to do with the fact
that she was going to be joining the WNBA and
at everything to do with what she did in college
as a generational type talent. And Engelbert yesterday said that
that's not what she said, that she was taken out
of context, that she would never blah blah blah first
question for you, and and Engelbert said all the things

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you'd expect a commissioner to say that she was disheartened
and surprised by Nephisa's comments and all the support she
got from the players. After doing it, she admitted that
she needs to do better. But and she is meeting
with the FISA this week. They are going to have
a sit down. Do you think a commissioner like this,
with the support that the players apparently have for what

(47:41):
Nefisa had to say, can survive something like this or
do you think the league would be best served finding
someone that they feel can work more arm in arm
with the players at a very critical time There might
be a work stoppage next year. The collective bargaining agreement
ends at the end of October. It's a critical time.
And so that's I think decision one. You think Engelbert
survives the storm she's going through.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Right now, Well, it depends on what ownership decides what
the WNBA is going to look like going forward. You
know the commission that she works with owners and they
are the ones that's going to decide how things are
going to shape out over the next forty five years.
And I see that the players are frustrated with a

(48:26):
lot of certain things here there.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I don't know what all those things are.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
But you know, after a hard file and a tough loss,
you know, to Phoenix, all of this emotion really came out,
and then you had coach she gets suspended. It is
because she's been very vocal about how bad the officiating
has been throughout the season, and I watched a few
games here there and the officiating has not Well that

(48:55):
looks so good. I would say.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It's amazing the amount of physical contact they permit in
this league that they just want. It's almost like they
want this, they want this to be the NBA circa
you know, nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Basically, well, you know, no, I'm glad you made that
statement that you just made that. How it seems like
they want the game to be physical. Well, when you
know Caitlin Carr complained about the physicality, everybody said, get
over it. It's because this is how you know, at the
highest level with this is the type of game that

(49:30):
we play. So if if you were okay at the
beginning of the year with the physicality, but then you
can't complain about the physicality at the end.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Of the season, who was okay with it? Because the players,
I don't think we're okay with they didn't. I mean
when every when nobody stood up with Kaitlyn when she and.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Got knocked around, the question was that, hey, get get
used to it, because this is how we play basketball
at this level. Okay, So now I don't know all
the issues that that they are dealing with. I mean,
I know for the first time now maybe the WNBA
saying that you know, you guys are on private planes.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
We got more of this, we got more of that.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
But the players you know, who are in the game,
evidently there is something that is not being done to
help them feel better about how the future of this
league is going to look. And now that's why you
might be seeing some of these emotions come out. And yeah,
it takes it takes a lot of courage to step

(50:28):
out and challenge the establishment. It takes a lot of
guts to do what she did, to speak out against
the people that you work no doubt, because you have
no idea what those repercussions can look like going down
the road. Now you made your your address to the commissioner.

(50:50):
How many teams are in the WNBA, They don't know.
Six's say, sixteen, a couple more coming next year maybe,
but there are sixteen owners maybe, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
They heard what you said.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Those are the people now that's going to make a
decision on what this league is going to look like
going forward. And I think the real conversation is going
to happen not just come with the commissioner, but all
of some of the owners of the league, and to
see is do they think that this league hasn't made
a profit in a long time?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Right, it's been basically supported by the NBA.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Yea, And so does the NBA really want to support
them and give them the things that they need to
feel comfortable going forward with the future of this league.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah, that's where you're at a tipping point, because suddenly
team's value has skyrocketed, you know, three hundred million. I
think Connecticut Sun sold for something like that, hugely inflated
from what it used to be, and everything's going to
go with that. Just like when the TV money came
in and all the values of all these teams and
all these other leagues skyrocketed, that's when player salaries skyrocketed

(51:55):
as well. Right now, the women players make virtually nothing comparatively,
the star players make so much more off the court
than they do on it. And that's why this is
such a critical time because benefits salaries as far as
the players are concerned, need to really move in a
direction that goes along with the value of the team. Now,
But so where's that revenue coming from? Well, I believe

(52:17):
that the TV dollars have increased, the numbers, the ratings
have certainly increased, So I believe that the money coming
in now for TV has gone way up from where
it was a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
So now so they need to do another CBA right
just saying and figure out, Yeah, what is it? Thirty
two games a season? I would like to see them
go play eighty games a year.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
We only we'll get to eighty because you got it,
you have to get over before football season starts or
you know, right around now that the season, I could
see you adding to fifty maybe, but eighty might be
AKA might be.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
A tough fifty years sixty because the more games you play,
the more revenue you generate. So now, if I'm asking
you to do more where then you get paid. But
if you're going to have a small window, where's the
money coming from?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
You look at you know, fee helped found the unrivaled league,
right the little off season league where players are making
more money than they were for the w NBA playing this.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
All the stories right, well, Unrivaled I think was here,
wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I don't know about that leg Yeah right, I know
what a lot of I know, a lot of females
had to go overseas for years, for years where they
could get to be.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
But Unrivaled is here.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
It's got some money behind it, and the players that
chose to play in it made a lot more money
than they did for a season of the w.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
NB I said, I don't know all the issues that's
behind the table what, but whatever it is, they're going
to have to sit down with ownership because the commission
that works for the owners, and if there's going to
be a work stoppage, believe me that the commission is
not going to make that decision. There's the guys who
really who really rests the check yes, and they're going

(53:52):
to decide whether this thing is going to go forward.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
And I think many believe a lockout is inevitable unless
they come together, that that this thing could shut down
for a while, which causes all kinds of issues. Most notably,
there are two new teams UH scheduled to start in
Portland and Toronto and expansion drafts cannot happen if there's
a lockout, so that it might put off the start
for two teams that were hoping to join the league

(54:15):
next year. And that's just one issue. Obviously, there's many,
many more.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I mean, the question, you know, is there is the
money there to pay them? Well, I think they should
be paid more if the money is there. For sure,
they are the best at what they do.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Yeah, I know when I when I first got into
the NBA.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
You know, there were there were teams who were threatening
to go out of out of business. I know, the
Indiana Pacers is one of those teams that everybody thought
they could forward at some point in time until the
owners decided to come together and say, hey, you know
we're going to save you know, we're going to save
some of these franchises and his ownership at the if

(54:51):
the NBA is is owning these w NBA teams, how
much money and capain are they willing to put in
to make this right for the women to play their game.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I think it's a big opportunity right now with the
crazy popularity of this league. And it's not just Caitlyn
Clark you know, you look at Aja Wilson's doing, you
Soard Page did as a rookie.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
But Caitlyn Clark is the one that set the table.
She's the one that she brought more.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
I'm not saying that she's the only one, but the
visual of the game began to change because you had
this new person coming into the league.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
You know, that brought this popularity.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
It's you know, not saying that she is the best
player in the league, because there's a lot of great
you know, women in the w n b A.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
But we all know that popularity, you know, brings in revenue.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
And so the owners who own these teams, they have
to see it from a you know, from a checkbook standpoint.
Are we profitable and if we put more money into
this game.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
What is it going to look like going forward.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
I think that's the big conversation that they're going to
have to have the guys who own these teams. Are
they willing to invest in money that they need to
invest to allow these women, you know, to feel comfortable
with the game that they play.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
It'll be a very interesting offseason. This week, As I said,
fees gonna sit down with the commissioner. We'll see if
they break bread and shake hands and move on, or
if it's still it's you know, weird and sort of
distant as it appears to be, and that it could
be a very interesting sort of ultimately like what where's

(56:31):
the league going? They'll know that this offseason what direction
that's going to take.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
And you know, and the greatest game that the fans
love today is the NFL. But the owners decided that
we won't to play seventeen to eighteen games. Okay, they
didn't want to hold the cards. Players can play. Well,
the injuries here there, We don't really want to play
more games. The owners that we want to play more
because more money came in. It's popularity. The fans want

(56:58):
to see more football games on the NFL.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
The players get fifty or fifty one percent of the revenues,
so you know they're going to go. I don't want
to play more games, but I guess you know the
money is they're going to play.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, okay, And so ownership has decided to invest more
indie game so that the players could feel comfortable with
the job shift they are doing.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
And I think the same thing is going to have
to happen for the w NBA.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Let's pause here and switch to the NBA as the preseason.
There was a game last night. I saw your guy
Brownie went one for twelve from the floor.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Lakers.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Wolves have a game tonight. The Wolves played Denver tonight.
Let's talk some Wolves basketballs and new season tips off.
When we come back in the zone.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Buck step out tonight.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I know i'd be looking Ti No.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
One. We capt my.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
We are back nine to twenty one on a Saturday morning.
You're in the zone.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Dave Sinecon, Trent Tucker, Brett, Blake Moore pulling the strings
and playing uh that great music by the Lake great
Pepe Willie and ninety four East. As we've come back
to talk some NBA basketball. Your Wolves had a game tonight,
first preseason game. They're home on Tuesday, I believe against
the Indiana Pacers Target Center. You know, the Paces healthy
while Tyrene isn't playing right and Miles Turners and Milwaukee.

(58:47):
So yeah, theyre gonna have a bunch of backups, so
be careful.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
We introve.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
We've seen that happen before. We'll get our first look. Well,
I don't think the game's televised tonight. I don't know
if it is Tuesday, but we will start to see
our Timberwolves now is a season begins. So there were
NBA games last night in the as I said, the
Wolf's preseason openers tonight against Denver at eight o'clock, and
there was a I thought Johnny Athletic had a great

(59:12):
story on Mike Conley in The Athletic I read this
week talking about you know, Mike Hiltzer in thirty eight
I think in the next week or so, and you know,
last year, while he had some really nice moments, certainly
in the back half of the season and in the playoffs,
you know, he is still the maister of this team,
but not a guy that can play thirty thirty five

(59:32):
minutes at night, so they're gonna have to manage his minutes.
But it was really interesting how he was banged up
heading into the offseason last year, didn't have an offseason.
It was a difficult start for him, and it took
him a while to feel comfortable. And I'm after reading
the article, I felt so much better about where Conley
is right now and what he might still be able
to do for this team. You know, he's the same

(59:54):
age as Kevin Durant, and we're looking at Durant as
maybe the savior for the Houston Rockets, who's going to
be asked to do a whole lot more for that
team than a similarly thirty seven year old Mike Conley
is from Minnesota. But what really struck got my attention
was when John talked to Mike about one thing that
the Wolves had really focused on getting better at, and

(01:00:16):
that is the transition game, that being a fast paced team,
and where they really struggled last year was getting out
in the fast break. They were twenty seventh in the
league in fast break opportunities, but when they did it,
they were third in efficiency. They were really good when
they actually got out and ran, they just didn't And
a lot of that was, you know, Gobar gets the
rebound and Anton Randall tend to come back to get

(01:00:38):
the ball from Gobert to initiate the offense, and that's
not what the Wolves want to do. They want and
Rynald to sprint down the court, get to the corners,
get to the wings, and get ready for a pass
from Mike Conley or whoever the point guard is to
initiate the offense. And that is a focus for this
offense to get how do you take it a level up?
A lot more easy opportunities in transition and getting Ant

(01:01:02):
and Randall to understand we got this get down court,
get open because the ball is gonna find you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Well, for one, the only way you're gonna run, you
gotta get the rebound. Well, let's just assume go Bear
is able to clean the glass. If Gobert is on
the floor, you can't run. Why can't he just find
Conley and now you run?

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Well, because you know as a defense, I'm gonna be
Devil's appen I was just what I do is that
if I know that Goldbert is your loan, is your
loan rebound and you want random and that was to
get up the floor, Well we just send three guys
at the offensive glass. So I think if the Wolves
wants to play faster, then they're gonna have to have

(01:01:37):
a personnel change. Not saying that gold Beart can't still
be a factor, but if they want to speed the
game up, maybe nas Regis plans center because he can
get up and down the floor much better, and Rudy
go Bear can, then he can operate offensively in in
the four court game because he has the offensive skills
to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Golbert doesn't have that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
For sure, you want to get as many easy baskets
and transition as you can, and he's absolutely right. You know,
the more the more times you can score or have
a chance to score before the defense can get back
and set up, makes things a whole lot easier for
your offense to operate. A man, I agree with him
one hundred but now do you have the personnel to
be able to do that? So I'm just a little

(01:02:16):
confused because you know, when when Isaiah Thomas can push
the basketball so he can make that first pass season
a transition game starts not with just the point guard dribbling.
They have to be once they get to the once
they get to the free throw line. On the defensive end,
that pass has to be up the floor because the

(01:02:38):
longer the point guard holds onto the ball in the
middle of the floor, now the lanes and spacing begins
to break down because transition defense is closing and taking
away those opportunities and in those lane runs. So if
you have a point guard that understands that I have
to advance the ball. See when you advance the ball,
you know, seventy five feet all of a sudden, Now

(01:03:00):
Anthony ed was in a wing runner like the Jay mcdad.
Now they got more time and space to operate. But
the longer the point guard holds onto the basketball, he
gives the defense time to get back and set up.
And that's why you have to face tough set defense.
Magic Johnson was great. He got the ball, he made
the outlet, but he had guys who could fill in. Barron, Scott,

(01:03:21):
James Worthy, Michael Cooper. They can finish on the break.
The Chicago boards, you got Michael Jordan and Scottie Pipman.
Get the ball to the glass. We make it a
seventy five foot pass. So you have to be able
to stretch your fast breaking game by naking, by making
the pass and not with the dribble.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
No, I hear you, and I think the idea is
Gobert against the rebound, fires at the Connelly couple dribbles
and he finds somebody streaking down and then gets it
in their hands.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
But see, but the case is with Minnesota. You know,
if you got to be able to get the rebound first,
and Edwards them have to be willing to be to run.
James Worthy was was a lame runner. Byron Scott was
a lane runner. They had the ultimate maestro and Magic
Johnson that was going to make that fifty foot pass.

(01:04:07):
So then when they got the ball in the open court,
we show time we running. This is what we do.
But Magic Johnson rebound and basketball. See he would go
back and get that long rebound, take off yep and
make the pass. He's six', eight six.' Nine Can Mike
colleen junior? Do that broughly can't count to. DO that
i totally agree with what, he's saying is that we

(01:04:28):
need to get some easier baskets and transition because that's
that's definitely going to help your. Offensive game but you
know what personnel package are you're going to use to make.
That work and you know sometimes if you want to upgrade,
your offense you may have to sacrifice on the. Defensive
end so it's, all about you Know What chris finch
sees at that particular time throughout the game that's going

(01:04:51):
to work best for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
His Team anthony edwards will be twenty four or just turn.
Twenty four he's in his twenty fourth year of life
as a been leaving that five Mix years yeah, six
yeah five six league six? Years already twenty four is
like the, magic, number though? Isn't it that's kind of
like where you they they they SAY that nba players
hit their prime at around twenty four to twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Of age so we are entering, ants PRIME as i
Guess what i'm trying. To say and however long that,
prime last?

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Isn't it it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Young prime but look how accomplished he is and what
he's what he's done in is. Fantastic years and we've
seen how he's found things to improve on his game every.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Single season last year was a three. Point shooting we
read last week about how he's working on his post,
up game whether, it's, low mid. Or high that's he wants,
to be yes more of a, dominant players studying Tape
from KOBE and mj and what they did in. The
post and, YOU know i think that's, all great and
he is an outstanding, offensive player and he's gotten to
become a really good. Defensive player but that's when he

(01:05:50):
gets TO the, mvp conversation which we hope is this
season that he's in, that mix people are going to be. Talking,
about yes he's a phenomenal high light Like, He's dominique
he's a human highlight film waiting. To happen but if
his defense gets to a point where that's where people,
talk about that's when HE'S an mvp candidate and his
game defensively is going to go up when he becomes

(01:06:13):
more efficient offensively where he doesn't have to waste a
lot of time and energy trying to get. A shot
so when he can get to a situation Like where
Michael and kobe got to at the year four or
five or six, or seven when they were able to
play off one or two bounces all of, A sudden
now they have, more energy, you know to put on the.

(01:06:33):
Defensive end, you know they're not trying to beat the
defense from twenty, eight feet get by, one guy get
by the, second guy and then finished at. The rim
and at a certain point, in time, you know you
lose that energy when you're working so hard on the
offensive end justifying space to get. A shot but when
the offense can put you in in a situation where

(01:06:54):
you are more efficient with the offensive game off of
one or. Two BOUNCES and I know i talk about this,
a lot all of A sudden now the other parts
of your game begins.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
TO grow i think for fans who think back to,
last season what sticks in, their heads it certainly sticks
in mind. Is finishing just the inability to finish at.
The basket it was really jarring to see To see
ant struggle to finish where you think he's got. More strength,
you know how is he not able to just dominate
when he gets to. The basket that's something that has

(01:07:24):
to get better and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Think about and, think about, you know how many how
many dribbles and how many twists and turns that he
had to make just to get by two or three
d finished to get to the rim and they face
somebody else who's coming to make.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
A challenge and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
You know the trying offense really worked for two players
because those two guys had a certain amount of skill
set to really make. It work we'll make this statement
TODAY now i saying That He's kybede Bryant And, Michael
jordan but in, today's game he has that skill SET

(01:08:03):
and i think the trying of offense would be Ideal
for Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
L and that is, for you who's the last guy
who's going to go into hyperbole that that is a
big statement because you has there been a player that
you've said that About, since kobe has anybody else to
you had that game that everything that that those two,
guys had not that the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Trying offense could. Work, for see the trying offense doesn't work.
For everybody, you KNOW and i know some people may, have,
said well we can, do this you can use it here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Or there but just.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Being in the tryang offense and then Watching how field
took It to La And kobe bryant was this dynamic
offensive energy Plasures like anthony ed was His And kobe
bryant did not want to be in the triangle because
he wanted to take the ball and beat you one
on one and then beat three guys and then make a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Spectacular play But When kobe.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Bryant was able to get past the, conference finals It's
Like michael jordan was able to get Past The eastern.
Conference finals their offensive game had to become more efficient
and the triangle offense was some similar to the triangle
offense all of a sudden allowed them now to find
an efficiency that they were looking for that they. Didn't

(01:09:16):
HAVE and i think that's the that's the final piece
that's Missing In anthony. Edwards game so you Want the
wolves to switch to a triangle offense to maximize.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
All, of it but you can have some variation of the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Triangle OFFENSE and i, Just, believe david you put him
after six years in, the league understanding WHAT the nba is,
all about and he's gotten To The Western conference finals
in back to. Back years it's kind of eerie to
think that the Two guys i'm, talking about they were
They were they were able to get to the to

(01:09:48):
the conference finals playing a, certain way but when all of,
a sudden now you smoothed out, the game gave them
a different position on the floor where they could counter
and act and read and react and find that real
consistency in, that game especially in the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
FOURTH quarter a Head coach WAYNE Eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Nba, championships WELL and i don't know That the wolves
are going to make that kind of an. OFFENSIVE switch
i mean sure they're going to tweaking, going on, for
sure said you, Some.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Variation like, you said he's working on his his post,
up game his mid. Range game what do those two
Guys do when they got past year five to six,
and seven they started to win titles and what game
do they? Go to their mid range post up game
playing with their backs are The best they were able
now to beat you off of one or Two, bounces
anthony that. Was in if you get him at seventeen

(01:10:37):
feet and he can turn and face, the defense that
defender has. No chance you are at the mercy of
a guy with that type of talent when he can
operate from that close within because now the game opens
up so much more. For him he can beat you
off a one bounce, pull up he can ball fake
and get one bounce and get to. The rim he

(01:10:58):
can suck in the defense now and make. Quick pass
it allows guys now to get set to shoot the
basketball because he's not trying to beat three guys he's
working with in a framework that's making him, more efficient
but also making his team much.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
More Efficient the wolves are relying on continuity.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
This year, you know they didn't make, any splashy big
roster moves like we've seen the last couple of Years
with gobert And then towns being traded away and suddenly
you've got new players and new things happening at the
dawning of a. New season there's none. Of that, this
year the same team is Back Minus Nikhil. Alexander walker
same Thing. With oka see the champs have basically the same,
roster Back whereas Denver and houston made big time changes

(01:11:39):
to try to get to that. TOP level i Think
what i'm excited about With the wolves is that is
just that that everybody kind of knows.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Their.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Role now Devincenzo and randall are going to be so
much more comfortable in. Year two randall, got paid he
knows he's going to, be here his family likes. It
here we saw how his game unlocked After The all
star break and he came back. From injury he, was
FANTASTIC and i do expect both of them to level
up now that they're. More comfortable we Saw what jade
McDaniel's offensive game could turn into late in. The season

(01:12:10):
suddenly he's not standing in, the corner he's being aggressive
and going to. The basket there's a real Chance for
jade McDaniels to take another, Step up and we're getting
texts from folks asking about what impact GUYS. Like tj
Shannon And jalen clark need. To, make well they're going
to have an Opportunity those nikiel minutes are There, For
shannon Clark and dillingham, most notably and if one or

(01:12:32):
two of those guys can step into, that role you're
not going to Be NIKIEL but I think shannon's got
a chance to be much more. Offensively dominant clark can
be more. Defensively doubted it's an interesting time in that
there is no big curve ball thrown at, this ROSTER
and i think that gives this team a chance to
really get better as they get to know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Each other but it's a. Major key this is a.
Major Key.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Can anthony elwis In The western conference frontals very efficient
with this game, we've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Let's just get. THERE again i think they can get.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
There again they got the talent to, Get there but
now we're talking about the talent to get over.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
The hump we got. A, guy see everybody doesn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
A guy see when you have a guy that has
that kind, of ability you have, To, say okay what can.
We do we ain't got to change everything that we
bring to, the table but we got to have some
variations on how we're going to make it work for
him in these close moments when we are trying to

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get TO the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Nba funds we got. A Guy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
The wolves they have, a guy and now let's see
how can we max out what this guy brings to,
the table especially at the most crucial time of, the season.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Right because and as last year, played out we were
worried heading into the playoffs about end of game scenarios
where this team just wilted at the end, of games
and through the first two rounds they turned that. Completely
around they were really good at the end of games
in the first two rounds of, the playoffs ESPECIALLY in
la and Then. Against okay see they right into a
buzz saw and it was. Not close but that's something

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again we're looking for progress. This season uh it's Not,
just ANT but i mean the balls in his hands
a lot in the final seconds of, a game so
easy to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
See it, you Know the wolves got.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
The team i'm just saying there there are moments in
a in a in a, playoff series or in a
playoff game in the six or a. SEVENTH game i
want my best player to be in a situation where
he where he can operate from with a much easier
task in front, of him so that he can either

(01:14:46):
make himself better or his teammates better where he doesn't
have to exhaust himself trying to make It him and
because YOU know i being in the in the in
the part of, TRYING offense i mean There two hall
of famous produced in that in, That Offense scottie Pippen And.
Michael jordan and the One Thing phil Jackson Told, MICHAEL jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
I know you don't want, To, change no you don't want,
to change.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
But this is going to allow you to accomplish all
the things that you want. To accomplish you're still going
to lead the league, In scoring you're still going to
be the best player in. The league but what's going
to be The difference now you're going to have the
best team in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
The league that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
The Difference See anthony eppas right now is one of
the best players in. The league what do you have
is twenty five twenty six points? A, game yeah AT
least i think if he's a little bit more efficient
and closer to, the basket twenty five goes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
To thirty and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Those fans, would say if he could get a Whistle Like,
shay getz he would get to thirty points.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
A game but you Know where shay operating from Big game. Bigbrange,
game oh.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
He's when the game. IS online sga is playing off
of one or. Two bounces he's blow the free. Throw
Line anthony everson is working off five. Or six it's
a long way. To go maybe that's because when you
make that one move here and you got to go
and cross over and you make another. Spin Move oklahoma
city was.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Very great was very good night.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
And great but bringing that weak side defend them to
knock the ball Away, mostly caruso BUT for sga when
he made one or, two moves we couldn't get there.
In time and because he was already operating when we
came with The quick, dever team he found a guy
ride up before, a shot, and Uh the wolves Got
the wolves have, the Talent the wolves got. THE personnel i.

(01:16:41):
JUST liked i would just like for them to put
their guy because they got. A, guy well and, you're
right and and just a better situation when the games
are on the line at the most critical time of.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
The. Year yep and we'll put a rap on, this
segment just. You, Know okay See in denver have a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Guy too and while While the wolves have matched up
Well with denver and had had their number the last couple.
Of years denver, to me could be the best team
In the west this year with what they've done on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
THAT roster i Like. Him johnson they have filled.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Every hole They Bring bruce, brown back they bring in
a backup center now so that things don't go completely
pear Shaped when jokic goes to. The bench they've got.
Basically everything And so i'm really curious to see If
the wolves still Can handle denver as we get into
the season and get those big matchups Against, the nuggets
because that's a team now That that, adelman's got, you
know some time to. Figure out he came into the

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coach the beginning of the season. Last, year uh he's
got a chance now with a whole bunch of new
players to really make this team a. Contender Again so
i'm worried a bit About. THE nuggets, i like, YOU
know i think the Steer masic son for me With,
the nuggets this can you protect? The basket and if
you can't protect, the basket a team Like the wolves
can can steal, hurt them especially a, playoff time because

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we have guys that can get the ball and take
it to, the rim.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
You Know, my Uh the lakers. Last year, you know
they don't have a. Rimp protector it's all, about defensively.
You know can we take certain things away From the wolves.
HERE there i just believe that, this team the window
is steal wide over. For sure ye steal wide over.
For them let's make sure that we don't lose this

(01:18:18):
opportunity because we got. A guy that guy will be
on the court tonight Against. The Nuggets the. Wolf season
the preseason.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Begins tonight they're back home for their preseason Opener on
tuesday Against The. Indiana pacers we'll pause here one, final time,
come back put a wrapper in the zone as we
return TO. The nfl look ahead To the browns And.
The vikings take a look at a couple of the
other key matchups in. Week five final segment In the zone,
after these.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Have you ever a seven?

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Cut pig?

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
You rounds what's the? Power?

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Back nine final segment In the zone will make Way
For Fantasy football weekly at the top of. The hour
Don't forget gophers football six point thirty tonight at Number One.
Ohio state you'll hear it here on the fan pregame at.
Four thirty wine line to follow As your gophers tried
to well snappy thirteen game losing streak To The Ohio

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state buckeyes and win for the first time in twenty.
Five years tough sledding against a defense that is stopped everybody. So,
far now they haven't played the meat of their. Schedule
yet Maybe the gophers will be the beginning of. The
meet we'll See If darius taylor can get on. The
field that would Certainly help drake li and that offense
try to move the Ball Against matt patricia's number two.
Ranked defense set. It earlier they're averaging giving up five

(01:20:06):
and a half points per game. So, far now they
haven't played a gauntlet of great teams, just yet but
they've been spectacular. So, far gophers buck. Eyes Tonight your
vikings Are in. London tomorrow a thirty kickoff and early
start For your vikes as they will take to the
field Against The. Cleveland browns we talked. ABOUT it jj

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misses his. Third Game carson wentz is under center behind
a battered offensive Line Featuring, joe huber the undrafted rookie at,
Left Guard blake brandel, at center playing center for the
first time in his life on. Any level justin's school
will likely get schooled at right Tackle By miles garrett
or whoever's coming. His Way isaiah maguire another really good

(01:20:49):
pass Rusher. For cleveland tough tough matchup For the, vikings
offense but similarly tough For the, browns offense and a
rookie Quarterback And dylan gabriel going Up Against, brian flores
who doesn't have all of his pieces but has enough
to make. Things difficult it's going to be an ugly
first team to. Seventeen WINS probably i take an ugly.

(01:21:09):
Win tomorrow everybody would everybody would you feel so much
different coming home three, and two heading into your, bye
week knowing what's ahead. Of you hopefully your, Quarterbacks back
hopefully You get jackson and O'Neill back on. That Line Maybe,
ryan kelly let's hope that things clear up, for him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
But maybe we have to call in a reserve and
Seeing Get sam donod back for a game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Of, two boy he's off to a really. Good start
that's one of the TWO games i want to talk
to you, about quickly because it's not a. GREAT slate
i mentioned only one game featuring two. Winning teams that's
The game Seattle Hosting. Tampa bay donald last time we
saw Him on thursday night football. WAS brilliant, i mean
he just looks so Comfortable in, seattle's offense, and man,

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you know he Gets A tampa bay defense that's missing
a couple. Of pieces both teams are. Missing defensive it's
a big. Task one it's pretty good, now there they are.
Pretty Good baker mayfield's. Banged Up No, bucky irving their star.
Running Back No mike, evans still so they're missing two
key playmakers against a Really good. Seattle defense but this
is an interesting late. Afternoon matchup seattle looks like a

(01:22:16):
team that's gonna be to be. Right there they're gonna
be right there at. That division, you Know Somehow san
francisco finds ways. To Win matt jones. Was fantastic he
looked like a, different player Didn't He With. Kyle shanahan
it sounds funny how how great Quarterback coaches Likene, and
shanahan Or even.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Lafloor with The leak willis.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Last year these guys understand how to make quarterbacks put
them in their. Best position that's what we. Have seen,
And Yeah mac jones Was terrific thursday night that's A
game you're going into PLAY a rams team without your
top two receivers and, your quarterback your best, pass rusher
and you find a way to Make Sure Kyrien wimble's
williams fumbles at the goal line and you get.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
A W and, i mean, You know sean McVay, is like,
HE says i made. A mistake i shouldn't end up
going for a fourth. And ONE maybe i should have
kicked the field interred of ale. Play call they had
a timeout to think about the, play call and they
just they run it just.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
So. Predictably yeah that was for a guy that's seen
as an, offensive genius that was a, real head, you
know completely lost his scratch the floor's decisions at the end.
Of game and, NOW McVeigh, i mean it's it's the
pressure on. These guys even, you know we've, Had koc
we've we've questioned some of the play calls late in. Big, games,
it's uh, you know it seems that we can find
fall with play callers all across.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
THE board I, THINK denver I think Denver in philadelphia
should be an.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Interesting game that's the OTHER game i had Circled the
philadelphia somehow Four, and oh apparently you know. Your Guy
jalen hurts ranks twenty eighth in the league. In passing
he's only passed for six hundred yards in. Four games
i's averaging one hundred and fifth. Their offense, You Know,
kellen moore the, offensive coordinator left to Go To new
orleans and their offense. Looks terrible Here comes denver's Defense.

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INTO philly I give denver a very good chance to spring.
The episode it's All about boonex on. The road boenex
has not yet proven he can win a big game
on the road against a. Good team and they're three
and a half, point underdogs but they are one of
my three underdog picks you can find at zone coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
DOT com i do it, EVERY week i pick.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
THREE dogs I think denver is a chance To, surprise
philadelphia who has just kind of. Got lucky they were good,
last week but they have sort of. Been.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Lucky Certainly the rams game down twenty six to seven
and they had to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Pass the Ball In jalen hurst passed the ball and
all of A Sudden aj brown was in.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
The game a.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Little, bit YEAH but i mean they were down twenty
six to seven in, that game and how many points
they scored winn. Football, game well they blocked a field
goal late that was and they got THE thirty, i,
think okay but it was mostly special teams but. The
offense but the offense had to put points on the
board to allow the defense to make one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
More, play yeah, You Know aj brown's complaining about not getting.
The ball he's. Always complaining mcarkley's not finding the holes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
He Did just philadelphia's offense, after tomorrow the tough Game,
against denver their next few games before they Come To
green bay are Like the. Giants twice they Don't have
they're gonna they could easily be. Eight up anything about
the Philadu, The Eagles jalen hurst. MAKES it i mean
they were they were Cruising Against. TAMPA bay, i mean offenses.

(01:25:15):
Fell asleep hey we what?

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Thirty?

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
One whatever were they Were crushing tampa and all of,
a sudden, You know tampa makes a couple of, BIG plays,
i mean and and the one touchdown two. Defensive backs
they just missed. The football, you know you knock those.
Balls Down tampa bay is not in that football game.
At all i'm not worried about, YOU know i think the.
Phill Up the eagles are still the best team you
know IN. THE nfc i.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Don't, dispute that but the offense has is a serious
concern through. Four weeks maybe it won't be another.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Four because you know the same thing you said About
the eagles last year where they can't throw the Football
Because Saint quon barkley is the main guy that runs
the ball all over. The place but when they got
into the playoffs and you have to win, football games
they moved the ball through. The air if You Ask
jalen hurts to throw the ball, fifty times he would
have to say kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Numbers, EVERYBODY no, I don't. I don't i just don't agree.
With that but we can look the. Music's playing we
can't Have A jalen hurts. Conversation now but you he's
great in. BIG moments i don't dispute that he's. Been
fantastic is not?

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
That talented when when did all of a sudden become
something that we?

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Don't, like no we, love it we.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Love Winning but i'm just Not Putting jalen hurts In The, Josh,
allen Patrick Mahomes Lamar.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Jackson stratus He's not he's just not. That good patrick
mahomes twice. Big moments he's defense letting down in one. Of.
Them uh do your vikings escape or the Win in? London,
tomorrow yes we're going to come out and get an.
UGLY win i don't care if he's THREE nothing. I,
TAKE yeah i. DON'T know i.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Have concerns enjoy, The hockey. Emplymouth, Today thanks we'll see You.
Next saturday enjoy, your. Weekend everybody enjoy the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Hot weather i'll get out and watch some Football At,
saint thomas or go out and play.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Some golf enjoy. The weather we'll see you. Next Weekend
for Brett, For Trot I'm dave sea