HR. 1 - J. P. Losman Fanline

The always topical J. P. Losman gets brought up by Sauce, Ben Leber shares some thoughts on the Vikings and his lack of experiences with NFL commissioners

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 5 (00:28):
It is the tenth day of November twenty twenty five.
I think today's the day, isn't it. I gotta look
this up. Ray's aballay today? Maybe Edmund fred stererld day ah,
I digress. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to the part of
Morning Show. My name is Chris. How can here We are,
ladies and gentlemen a Minnesota Vikings Monday. That was rough yesterday.
That's okay, you know we'll talk about that all day Today.

(00:50):
We get the lovely and talented Ben Lieber and Mike
Mussman as well cast the thousands, ready to break it
all down for you, plus too much more.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Let's talk about.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Let's get it start. Let's get it started over with
some Here's Brian Reagan, make you feel little bit better
about things. Brian Regan com me on a Monday morning.
Come on, now, I am glad you're here.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
So uh a little bit about me.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:10):
I played football in high school and in college.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
You know, the most dangerous part of high school football
has nothing to do with getting hit. It's forming your
plastic mouthguard. The thing doesn't fit your teeth yet. You
have to take it out of the wrapper and dip
it in the scalding hot, boiling water until it gets
nice and gooey, and then take it out and bite

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on it so it forms to your teeth the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Time it's bubbling.

Speaker 7 (01:38):
You're going, why didn't I run cross country?

Speaker 6 (01:50):
I didn't want to feel that pain. I just took
a hammer and smashed all the teeth out of my face.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
That would hurt less.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
This lava, magma, candlewax from the center of the sun.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
How about those dolphins? He's talk the way.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Don't sweet feet us on your side? You hear the
distance under this inn? You stray prob.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
The paler Tra Money Show. It is Monday, November tenth
of twenty twenty five. Remember when Ben leeber on Thursday
told us that like every loss in football is about
what nine baseball games, right, the equivalents. Yeah, it feels
like we lost about forty baseball games yesterday. You know,
it's not weird. We ago we wanted to pick a

(03:15):
statue out of JJ McCarthy, not for pleasure, Zach, not
for pleasure, just to immortalize him.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
You know, I have wanted to mention this to you, Zacho,
as Corey says that it reminds me I'm always studying
in Philadelphia. The latest season, Dennis I decided to move
to Omaha to race his son, and so he left
the show and so they made a sex doll of

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him because they missed him so badly, and it looked
just like him. You know, that's really a real thing.
People do that, really, yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's legal.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
It's completely legal, completely legal. And the one that that
Mac had made off Dennis looked like he was surprised
all the time.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh, if you know what I mean. That was a
bit on Saturday Night Live this weekend with American Girl
Doll XCEL, like life size American girl dolls, and uh,
you know, the girls all wanted to have, you know,
like a full sized Supreme Court justices. Well, the men
that were at the store also had a couple of

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gals that seemed surprised.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Interesting. I did not know that happened this week. I
haven't seen Saturday Live yet.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
It was okay, a couple of couple of decent ones.
It was solid anyway.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
So you think about that, you know, it'd be interesting
just to come over to your place and walk downstairs
and see all my friends down there.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Zach invites us over for the first Oh look, there's
nine nine.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Look at nine.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Mean mugginess over there in the corner.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Is that nine or J J?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Or do you have one of each? You just want
to beach, I would gues depends on the well, get
out of here, oh man, clean up on Aisle nine
tony one.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Now, oh I bet he'd never heard that before.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh man, Oh what a game?

Speaker 5 (05:12):
What a game?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
What what start in his career? Was that?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
For our young four? Four start number four.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Starting number fair? Yeah? Well, lots of things, right, yeah,
mostly negative though, lots of things, lots of things.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I don't even think the Ravens were that great. They
were pretty average.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Oh no, I thought we lost that game.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah for sure, for sure.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, I thought we lost that one more than more
than they won. I mean, obviously, once they got the
lead and could run the ball, then you can't stop that.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, you could argue that, right, They never once they
took the lead back, they never really had to put
the pedal down. Yeah, they just were in cruise control mode.
So we didn't see them go all out either, because
they kind of pulled the reins back and just gave
it to Derrick Henry. But could you argue again, butterfly
effect whatever, I know, domino.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Effects, butterflies love you. Yeah, they really did a tattoo
butterfly do you uh, yeah, you should have.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Do you guys think the entire game. I think the
entire game collapsed when Justin Jefferson tripped over that defender
one because that ball either, you know, I mean it's
a fifty to fifty ball. I don't blame JJ McCarthy
at all for that. That was the play.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
I don't even blind the play call. I like to
play college because you're and.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
You're gonna go Ford on fourth. Kevin O'Connell said it
after the game. They were going forward on fourth. So
let's get one on one with JJ and and go
for it, so but he trips, the ball gets easily
picked off, and then they march down and pop it
in and the whole game changes. So if he doesn't trip,
I mean, I don't know, man, Like, it's just weird

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to say it's a game of inches. But he makes
one wrong step and he steps on that dude's foot
or vice versa and gets tripped up. The whole game
falls apart, and man, what a weird game for Justin
Jefferson dropping balls looking frustrated, not disinterested, but definitely frustrated.
Frustrated for sure. And I couldn't tell if he was
frustrated at the game, at himself, at his quarterback. Who knows, Yeah, man,

(07:12):
well yeah, you know. Yeah, it's just you know, the
seven or eight false starts they had, which I think
is the most in a game by a home team since.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
I thought they were going for.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Just a quarterback. It's just yeah, but they had gotten overtime,
they could have got it. Yeah, run up a couple more.
You just had moments where like the running game was working,
and then they completely went away from it. It was
a completely different game in the second half. Right, the
fumble on the kickoff doesn't help and then you fumble
the next one, but then you you're lucky to get

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that one back. They just that is a team in
the Ravens that has to play with the lead, and
once they got the lead, they just as you said, Core,
They just turned around and handed it to Derrick Henry
twenty times and he would just plow ahead for a
few yards. They keep doing it. It's just, yeah, it's
a tough one. Well, you could also flip it in
two and say early in the game, Lamar Jackson had

(08:07):
about three lasers that his receivers dropped yep, right, Bateman
dropped one, Mark Andrews dropped one. So it actually could
have been a lot worse, but the Vikings spent the
first half dodging some bullets and then the raven spent
the second half just running out the clock and giving
it to Derek, So it could have been uglier, but
still two or three plays away. That trip is the
one that sticks out of my head. The mouse and

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the whole game changes, but that's football. The whole game
change is almost always done three to four plays.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Oh show, yeah, man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I was so I'm not as down on McCarthy as
it seems like other people are, because I have zero
problem with that one. I want my quarterback once in
a while to throw fifty fifty balls to Justin Jefferson.
That's the goal. Let him go get it. We used
to just we used to praise Randall Cunninghand for just
chucking it up blindly. Yeah, just throw it up to Moss,
he'll go get it. Yeah, you got one on one

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with Justin Jefferson. Yeah, bombits. We're gonna go for it
on fourth if it doesn't get completed anyway. Yeah, no
problem with that. It's not just it's not McCarthy's fault
that Jefferson gets tangled up in falls.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Are these the right stats for a straight for JJ
McCarthy twenty two of forty five for two sixty eight,
one touchdown, two.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Interceptions, forty two for two forty Are you right?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Those are Dan Marino's fourth start as a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
My fault, well played?

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Wait a minute, Are these right? They get six or
fourteen for seventy five yards, no touchdowns and one interception?
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
No? Who's that?

Speaker 5 (09:30):
That's Prett Farve's fourth start as a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Only one interception? Only what Scott? That was a good
game for Brett. I thought that were Ponder's last stats. Yeah,
uh no, And I think the.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Thing we saw yesterday is you get my point? Yeah,
he hadn't he what I'm doing there?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
When he's on, he's got it man.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
He when he can stand back there in the pocket,
he can make some throws. Yeah, when he gets flustered
or tad, he's he sails the ball. But his hockey
he has pointed out. It's the fourth start of his career,
right right, It's not like the whole game is just
like these we saw with McNabb at the end, where
it's just these worm burners into the ground, or he's
he just can't make the pass. He can make the pass.

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We just need a complete game out of him. Wait
a minute, we start.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Was he thirteen of twenty three for ninety six yards,
one touchdown and no interceptions? Was that Josh Allen Joe Montana?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Oh no, he was not. He was twenty of forty two.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
I don't think you get my point what I'm trying
to do here, Sauce.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, I get your point.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
You don't seem to get it.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, I totally get your point. I totally get your point.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
It's his fourth start. He's twenty two years old. What
about was he? Oh wait a minute, I'm wrong. Was
he twelve of twenty one f one hundred yards, one touchdown,
one interception?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Was that JP Losman?

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yes, holy crap, do you know do you know his stats?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
By heart? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
It's actually Steve Young, Steve Young's fourth start at NFL quarterback.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
God dang it. By the way, sauce, he just completely
ruined it. Why I made a bet with somebody that
we wouldn't go ten straight years without mentioning JP Losman.
That was like eight and a half years. Damn it.
I'm sorry, man, did not have that on my banko card.
That's all right. I think if you listen to the
KOC press confers, and I'm sure you guys all did, ye.

(11:19):
Kaos is not a guy that throws somebody straight under
the bus, right, He almost always takes it and says,
I need to get better.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Throw straight people under the bus.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
What are you trying to say, Welcome back, Zach, Wow,
look out for that bus.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Come on, Koco.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
The eight fall star penalties this is on JJ because
Kaoc just flat out said, yeah, we were dealing with
the cadence or whatever else it could have been, like
he tried to slide. I mean, I mean there's lots
of things it could be.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Uh, well, if you had one Todd Stucy, you know
what I mean, then you can say, well, is that
players when every other player, including JJ's nothing going on.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
And you can tell you could. I the guys to
me that gave it away was Brian O'Neill, because you
could I don't know when they're that good. When when
when a tackle is that good and they jump and
it's a false start, you can tell when they're really
disappointed at themselves. He looked very frustrated at I mean,
I guess JJ was like, what are you guys doing like?

(12:22):
He looked frustrated externally, like this is not my fault
and I keep getting flags? Come on, you know the whoa?
You know, the most frustrated tackle was yesterday Tuma. Yeah
that was what tackle Terry Tuma was frustrated at the game. Yeah,
I forgot about him, but he still with us. Whoa,

(12:45):
watch me for the changes and try to keep up.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, boy, I got sidelined by the Tackley Tuma.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
We're talking about the blame him. We were talking about
JJ's cadence and making people jump offside.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
I'm looking forward to talking to one Ben Leeber because
it's actually a fast of the game I'd never thought
about and the press comforts that I can play later.
KFC mentions different snap counts, different cadences when you're on
the road and when you're home, and obviously we're not
having those issues as much when we're on the road
because we're doing less with different cadences. Ye, So I

(13:22):
wonder how many different cadences you have at for a
home game. And I also wonder because he said during
the game they were trying to change it to make
it easier, easier for who and what do you do
to make a cadence season? Why is it hard? I
really don't understand, and I'm not saying that. I'm not
pointing fingers saying anybody. I really don't understand. What could

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be the difference? Is it the emphosis?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
And who's gonna honestly a lot, who's going to sit
around all day listening to different JJ McCarthy noises to
analyze whether or not how are we going to find
a volunteer to be like find out what'sones are working
that guy. Someone's gotta do it, right, I mean that's
you know, oh yeah, I mean volunt But if this

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would have to be a psycho that would be willing
to take notes and replay the same sounds over and
over and over again.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Here's the new snapcount, all start seventy five offense. Okay,
tray again, baby, Yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Gotta go in the second bond. That's confusing. I see
why they're jumping out sides.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, no, but I think it's interesting and I've
literally never thought of it before, never thought about it.
I just thought, you go up to the line scrimmage,
you go, hut, it's on either one or two?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yep, right on one on two?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Great, if it's on three. Now we're getting a little freaky.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Out of you. Yep.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
The hell do I know?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Though?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know a lot? I know. Uh.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Steve Young was twelve to twenty one, one hundred and
nine yards a touchdown in an interception on his fourth start,
So everybody needs to take a deep breathwatter quarterback on
how to play this game. At least he's getting the
reps now he's not on sidelines with her ankle.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, that's the best part of it. He had moments, yes,
said he looked.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Okay, hell yeah, man, how about that touchdown or the
long throw to well I am the touchdown of the jail.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
And Naylor, Yep, that was a great throw.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Speedy finally had that game there.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
The throat of Jefferson in the end zone that got
broken up was a great throw. I'm good. Yeah. So
it's not like he played terribly. He just like a
he and his numbers are a little misleading. I know
he had twenty two incompletion, so that's not great. A
lot of those were tip balls too, that's not very bad.
Down balls. The two interceptions, okay, yeah, again, the one

(15:47):
isn't his fault is at all. Chuck it up there.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
That's on the fourth door fourth do are you ready?
I count?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, I don't know where we what we were doing there.
Then he had the one that Roco, rokwand Smith almost had. So,
I mean, you could argue it could have been worse
if that one counts to but either way, my test was, Okay.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
I hate that body weight penalty. I don't know how
you're supposed to make a tackle.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
That's a horrible penalty. I just don't know how you're
supposed to be called.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah, I don't understand how you're supposed to make a tackle.
I would have been pissed if that was called on
somebody doing that to our quarterback. I still I don't understand.
I really don't.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I don't know. That's the right answer though, hate the rule,
but you have to respect that that's absolutely the right call.
And Derek Dallas Turner seemed very confused and seemed pissed.
It's like, well, dude, I mean, part of being a
pro is knowing the rules. You can't leave your feet
and put your full body weight on the quarterback, which
is exactly what he did.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Know how you're supposed to do it otherwise, though, I
really don't.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I don't know. I don't know what you're supposed to
The guys on the TV broadcast are saying, is it's
as simple as if you just roll right while you're
while you're launching. You just have to roll And I
know that's not easy. It's not I'm not saying it's easy.
I'm just saying that's the rule for thirty, maybe even
thirty one of the thirty two quarterbacks in the league.
That is fine. That is possible. That is absolutely something

(17:10):
you can can learn to do. When you're facing Lamar Jackson,
if you roll on him, he'll beat you, he'll toss
you aside, and he'll run any of the end zone
for a touchdown. Like That's the problem is you have
these ultra athletic quarterbacks right now, like Lamar who's one
of the best, and he is a football player who

(17:31):
should be able to be tackled, and instead you have
to like I don't have touch exactly. They don't complain
to me. Complain that, Paul Tax. Yeah you're the one
saying it. Yeah, you're the one saying it. All for
protecting quarterbacks, but yeah, make it. Maybe they should protect

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themselves and they shouldn't be able to run.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Maybe they should remember they're playing football. If you don't want,
then go play cricket.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Well.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
And also the it's you know, it's Dallas Turner falling
on the Mar Jackson. If that was Jerry Ball, we'd
all say, like, that's a penalty. Yeah, that's don't put
all your body like like having an anvil falling dead.
It's Jerry Ball. So that's why it's a penalty. Okay,
all right, more of the power Trip Morning show after

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this on the fan.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
How many of us were worried? I guess how many
of us that are left, we're worried that we took
the Bills to be the Dolphin yesterday. I think only
you just told me. I see, Criso was the only
one that did.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Cristo was the only one. He took Buffalo and they
lost to the Dolphins.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
I know I was worried when I saw that score.
I'm like, oh no, who'd I take? I took Seattle,
you and.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I took and that game was over almost after the
opening kickoff. Yeah, it was it twenty eight nothing or
thirty five and I think it was thirty five nothing. Yeah,
I think it was. At one point it was thirty
five or it maybe yep, yep, A couple of fumble
returns for touchdowns. I mean that game was out of control.
Early yep, early early, early yep, very greasy.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
I want you guys to know by the way that
Aunt changed my life.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Oh yeah, how.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
I really want to say it, but I'm not going
through out of respect. Okay, sorry he said this and
now I'll never say it any other way.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Rudy Gobert go Bert.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Yeah, that's how I'm gonna say it from now on,
even if that tall some bitches standing in front of me,
I'm gonna say, mister Gobert, and he's gonna punch me
so hard I go into the next century.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Here's the problem, though, Yeah, what if he's standing in
front of you at a crosswalk and then you won't
be it says, don't walk and there's traffic and a
bus is coming, and now don't go Bert.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Wait, you left your comedy in Disney.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Rudy Gobert, I think. And during the commercial break on
Channel nine, they said it's the fifty sixth birthday of
Sesame Street. So Bert is definitely on Zach's mind. And
now he's saying, go Bert, Rudy Gobert. Yeah, all right,
happy birthday, Sesame Street. Rudy Gobert. Great show. Is it
still on?

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Is it the HBO bit running out of sponsors? Though?
Oh no no, because of the shutdown, the letter P
is having some truugh tough times. I don't understand what's happening.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
I'm telling you, you left it out there. Did they
lose your sense of humor on the plane on.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
The show which you might have wanted to check in
on a couple of times. There were there were things
like this show is brought to you by the letter
H and the letter P, and then they would have
like whatever, so Zach saying that the letter P is
no longer advertising on Sesame Street. So they're they're going
through some rough patches or so I guess rough atches.

(21:01):
If the Rudert you guys like gogurt, No, I haven't
had it in a while, nobody cares, okay, but yeah
I would eat it. Yeah, Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
You should uh have a go gogurt company that makes
for Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Everyone was complaining on Friday about the court for the
NBA Cup. It was Neon Greenert. It was kind of
hard to watch on TV. So I watched it for
about three seconds. We were up by like forty points
and then I turned it off. Yeah, they dominated dominated.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
They wouldn't stop playing basketball.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
They did play basketball the entire time. Yeah. Maxo was
at the game and he said it looks cool and personally,
sure it does.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
That's real. Yeah, oh I thought it was a TV effect. No,
no kidding, I'm not smart. Yes you are not about basketball.
But thank you for saying that an't even having my backside.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
But we won by a billion points. So the French
kid got in burt with sweet dunks. Yeah, I think
you had a block or two. Yeah, I mean looks
like he's got a long way to go to French
people legal and they're both giant bitches. They're gigantic.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Is one of them named Rudy Gilbert?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's one of them guy? And then the other one Sauce?
What's the other guy's name? Isn't it one? So?

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Do is it? One?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Three? Baron? Wow? Damn? I mean I think you got
his first name wrong, But the second name I think
you got right. I think his last name is excuse
me say that again? What kiss the inside of your
bung cheeks? Not bum cheeks?

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
You heard me?

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Tell me more about one two three.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
One? Ha ha. Did you have a favorite Sesame Street character? Yeah?
Go on, cookie Monster of course, and Bert or no Ernie.
I liked Ernie, Yeah, I liked him. I like most
of them. They were all great. Well, they teach you
that when Sesame Street started it was lunchtime because it

(23:15):
was on at noon when I was a kid. M
Then mister Rogers followed and it was a great time. Me,
Dob and Kel would sit at the yellow this yellow
table that we had and we would have lunch. Well,
we watched that show? Did you have to listen to
Insane clown Possi while watching Sesame Street?

Speaker 3 (23:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I don't think dovid gotten into them yet, and I
don't think they were a thing.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Was it weird to come home from for lunch when
you were senior in high school?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'd sit at the same table, even though every time
I got up, I took the table and chair with me. Yeah,
it was tough. I've always wanted to draw a blue dog.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yep, you're finally ready, Paul, come on home first. Sesame Street?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah? Is it on HBO?

Speaker 5 (24:01):
How the hell would I know?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I don't know. Corey might know. What's Louie watching? He's
almost a year old? Yea yet? Yeah, yeah he's not
he's not watching what is he still watching murder docs
on bt K? Yeah he doesn't really what like sports?
He doesn't like have a TV show he likes? Yet's

(24:23):
because he's because his mom's watching How to Make a Murderer. No,
I'm that we don't watch that anymore. Oh you banned?

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Oh are you telling her how it's done.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Now, No, I just hate that show.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I know.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
I heard what you said.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
We're not watching that in front of Louis. Let's watch
the ed Geen show, see how.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
It plays out.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
We didn't watch that. Are you gonna watch ed Gan
with lou No? Probably not? Why not? I don't know.
It's probably too traumatizing for almost eleven month old to
watch that strong bond with his mother.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Though.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, he watches a lot of sports. No, no, no, I
mean ed Gen. Oh yeah, yeah, bond, strong bond, struck, brilliant. Yeah,
I mean didn't he wear her face? Who is that her?
I think so? Yeah? Yeah? And then he I don't
know hawksad Then didn't he push.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
It back, push.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
His wien and balls?

Speaker 5 (25:15):
Sure did? Sure he did?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, talk, he pushed it real good. So he was
so close with his mother that he essentially wanted to
be here, which is isn't that something that Louis and
kel should you know? He strive to be He just
wanted to be a lady. Yeah, he wanted to be
a lady.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Lady real bad, and he's not. He wasn't a pretty man,
even though he was played by one of the most
beautiful men in America's.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Correct, They got to quit doing that in Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
They really do. I mean cast some disfigured piece of ass.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah you know, I mean elephant.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
He's got to be a good an actor, a good
actor who looks like me, you know, I mean, come on,
don't I don't want to see ed Gane having abs.
I don't want to think to myself, am I getting
an erection?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Money the BTK played by Jason Momoa.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, correct, and you can't ugly him up. Look what
they did to what's her face? When she played that
one lady?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, Charlie's their own Yeah no, wait no, yeah right, yeah,
she played Ileen Warnos? Is that you say her name?
Call your hands up? Eleen Warnos would either version? She's mean?
Come on, yeah, she's mean and she likes hook.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
I'm gonna have a hard time fighting through those tee firs.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah. No, that's that's her girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
No, her girlfriend got no, her girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Has one hand. His girlfriend would.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Because if she's only got one, she has no idea
what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Obviously, I mean, yeah, and this is a trans you
forget she's got that one?

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah, yeah, and you wake up the next day and
it looks like somebody's been.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Somebody took a cheese grater to it. Oh, all your
hands up, girlfriend, would hawk sounds like he's willing to
gamble you a full set of teeth? Would you a
full set of what teeth? Oh?

Speaker 5 (27:03):
Oh, they looked like they were probably full set of
those two?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
You would probably not.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
I probably wouldn'tcause I respect people.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
But a lean you would, I would.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
I just she scares me. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers made some
really weird moves yesterday.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Are you guys watching ESPN right now? You seem to
dropped the ball, Nanzo.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
That's weird watching Channel nine? Well, it's crazy that. Oh
oh look, the Ravens were one in five and when
it looked like they were going to get Lamar back,
and then you saw the schedule the rest of the way. Yeah,
you can understand why they were favored a couple of
weeks ago to still win the division despite it. At the time,
I think they were two and five and we're favored

(27:42):
to win the division. You're like, how is that possible?
Then you see the record, you see the lineup, you
see how healthy they were about to get, and I
think they played their b minus game yesterday and they
still beat us. Yeah, never put the pedal down. Cleveland
done Sunday. Yeah, I mean they're gonna win by ninety. Yeah,
they're nine and a half point road Aproah.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
The quarterback was so bad for the mystery that people
were saying he was he sold the game to the mafia.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Have you guys seen the pitching videos?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, no I haven't.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Those the two guys that are accused of, Oh is
it for the guardians who do their part? It's closer, right,
So one of those guys got accused of basically taking
a dive, like first pitch, third inning, right, right, so
you give everybody the heads up, all right, the first
pitch of the third end is going to be a ball.
So they saw an abnormal pattern and people just randomly

(28:34):
betting on the first pitch in the thirty and again,
these guys are so dumb. All of these sites fan
dual DraftKings, they all have systems in place to see,
like why is everybody betting on the the first pitch
of the third inning. It's a giant red flag anyway,
Then you see the video the guy throws it right
into the dirt like it's not even close. It's not

(28:58):
like I'm gonna I'm gonna put it just a little
bit outside.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
It is a dirt ball. From the second it leaves
his hand. He throws it with his left hand.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Who is asking for a friend? Do people bet on
radio ratings?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Because I am willing to throw this some bitch.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I am lying.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
I'm just putting my friend's nick and everybody out there
you know I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
You let me know.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
I'm willing to rig this, some bitch.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I need some money, Yeah, because honestly, it doesn't matter
if we have a thirty share or a fifteen share.
It doesn't matter for us. Yeah, so if you want
it to go down a little bit, we'll take a fall. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
It does seem though, if I tried even less hard,
we probably have higher ratings.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Front Fade Sports in a second on the fan, Hey,
coome on and every money.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
How's your morning share?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Here we are.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Lovely.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Listener sent us a bunch of cards, he said, you'll
know who they're for. Here's some garbage pail kids, small soul,
Tom thumb.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Dude, garbage pail kids. Why did he give him up?
I don't know. Keep forever here's a I remember the
tom thumb. One's missing his thumb right.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
No, no, he's got giant thumbs.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Oh really, I thought he was missing. I think there's
I think there's one where he's missing one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Uh, here's a an NHL from the oilers named Ron
tug Nutt.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Parrish probably knows him. Remember that name.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Garbage Peel kids screaming mem yep, remember that one, garbage
peel kid Gore may.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Uh in the pot? No she I know she have
any calm down?

Speaker 5 (30:54):
I don't know. It looks like a dude.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Oh, here's a jot.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Oh, here's some serial killer cards john My Gaysey, Jim Jones,
Charles Manson. He didn't kill anybody.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
He didn't have to have to.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Oh, here's John randallcardis right now, right?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Hang on, So you named the serial killer card, and
then we'll tell you who plays him in the movie.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Albert Fish, Johnny Depp, uh, John Wayne Gacy sauce you
know that one?

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, who's the guy in uh Fantastic four? Who Jesus
who plays say it again?

Speaker 5 (31:31):
John Way Gacy? Uh?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Uh Pedro, Pascal Pedro Pedro. It's like Recal Dwaddle all
over again. A. J. Holmes, m hm, Well, wasn't that
supposed to be Leo? Yeah, that's crazy that it actually
was supposed to be Leonardo DiCaprio in that movie never
took place. We heard about it for like a decade,
didn't we talk about it? Within the last year there

(31:54):
was some update again with Scorsese and Leo trying to
figure out whether they were ever going to do that
or turn it into a series instead of a movie.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Fingers, yes he does.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
According to Reddit, well now we know it's true. I
don't know what that says. Why don't you get back
to us?

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Oh, Belginnis, where does it say? Oh, that's it. I
was gonna say they have Mother Teresa. It's a different one.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
My serial killer car garbage pail Kid from nine months ago,
the headline of The Guardian long delayed DiCaprio Scorsesey serial
killer film Devil in the White City back on track. Yeah,
they've been saying that forever for literally like ten years.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
At least you get started, because I ain't got all day.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
What comes out first? The H. H. Holmes movie or
GTA or Tommy Tommy, Oh GK, I hope that was Yeah,
that sucks. Bummer yep it sure and a half, Yeah,
bummer and a half the bummer bum.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
He's right about that.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
He's just singing, little drummer boy because it's that season.
Oh great, put up the Christmas tree over the weekend.
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(34:09):
I still don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Do you like?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I don't know if you like Celsius. They'll try that
at Holiday Thanks Holiday. The Minnesota Vikings lost to the
Baltimore Ravens twenty seven to nineteen. JJ McCarthy twenty of
forty two for two forty eight a touchdown in two
interceptions a fifty four point five rating. Lamar was just okay,
kind of underwhelming for him. Yep, seventeen to twenty nine,

(34:34):
one seventy six in a touchdown. But he did have
about a billion guys drop balls, but that's okay. Yeah,
the Andrews one would have probably been a touchdown if
he'd caught that. That was a weird And the Bateman
one was in the end zone. Yeah, that was a
weird drop too. The Vikings had thirteen penalties for one
hundred and two yards, eight fall starts, and again they

(34:54):
were the home team. Yep, Malachi Starks and Marlon Humphrey
interceptions for Ballaltimore. The Vikes did lead ten to nine
at halftime. The big buzzkill for the Vikings and for
this show. Jonathan Grennard potentially serious question mark shoulder injury.
I mean, he never came back in the game, but
Koc after the game said he was going to be

(35:15):
evaluated yesterday and today. I assume that means MRI I
would I would think so Hawk said earlier, I think
off the air Hawk about Ben Gesling's podcast.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, they said he walked out of the locker room
looking fine.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Looking fine.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, that doesn't mean I think if it's a shoulder
ash situation.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
They ruled him out real quick. Yeah yeah. And on
the field, Yeah, the way he was holding his shoulder
and flopping around like a fish on a dock nailed it.
He wasn't moving his arm at all. It did not
look good. Yeah. I'm like, that's a broken collar bone
or something bad. Yeah, he's tough. He is tough.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
He's tough. Guys.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
So the Vikes fall to one and three. At home,
they host the Bears, said Dune, and the Bears did
win over the Giants twenty four to twenty. Chicago is
now six and three. How about that.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
They haven't played anybody yet.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Let's see Walliams. But let's see though. Is Hawk right?
Let's find out? I mean they've lost. They lost their
first two games, the Vikings and the Lions. They beat
the awful overrated Cowboys, the bad Raiders, the bad Commanders,
the Saints. Man, my god, Hawky is right, except for one.
They well, then they lost to the Ravens. They beat

(36:28):
the Bengals and the Giants. Hawks correct, they've beaten nobody.
The Bengals are terrible, the Giants are bad. The Saints
are one of the worst teams in football. The Commanders
aren't good, the Raiders are bad. Well, then, so the
Bears are not good. I think they're okay. They can
score a lot of points because didn't we go through
the Patriots schedule and it's essentially the same story that
the Patriots have. I mean, but they didn't beat the

(36:50):
Buccaneers yesterday. Yeah, the Bucks are legit, not a buccaneer.
The Patriots are playing a fourth place schedule, just like
the Bears are. But you got to play who you play?

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Hey, Horry Corey your garbage kid? Uh did you? You
don't have Facebook right, never have, so you didn't get
to open the thing that I said. My gosh, dude,
you know what, I'm gonna play it. I'm going to
email it to myself right now so that I may
play it on the air. It's no, yes it is.

(37:18):
But I laughed so much at this, and I'm a child,
and I'm not even that I am a hillbilly. Ah,
but you are a huge fan of Wicked game.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Oh, great song, great song, and Ken, I have a
recurring dream that I stand on a table at Applebee's
and sing it to a gal. I think you take
too much mellow tone.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Do you remember?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Do you guys have anything like this in your lives
where you send something around and you expect the world
to end because people are like, my god, You've found
the greatest thing these eyes have ever seen, and you
get very little response. That was me. I was waiting
to go into Jill's charity event on Friday night, which
point very well Pastor Paus. Thank you everybody food who donated.

(38:03):
I'm well done everybody. And I found this thing and
I sat in my car. I'm surprised the cops didn't come.
I sat there laughing so hard, and then I said
it all you guys, and no one responded to John
Grees little course. So I'm gonna play it now.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
He was in a deer stand with nothing to do, right.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
And you're gonna know why I love this so much.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
This is you.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Just we're opening on a scene. You see two feet
beneath the stall of a bathroom stall, just two feet
and then you hear this, O you all right.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Over there.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Again?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Why did I not open that? Why did I do
you have Facebook?

Speaker 5 (39:10):
No?

Speaker 6 (39:11):
I do you do not?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Man? Did you ever have Facebook?

Speaker 7 (39:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Like twenty years ago. Yeah, man, why was this being filmed?
People like people farting? Nobody should be filming in bathrooms ever,
people like people burden and of course cries. Loved it.

(39:40):
Of course that's brilliant. Hawk. You should have been arrested
for laughing to.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
That's probably if I'm saying I watched it ten times,
I'm low bone.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, that's so good. If we played again, if the
six year old was taking trumpet lessons, the instructor would say,
well done, no notes, like you hit every note perfectly.
I know, yep, I have nothing to correct. Nailed it.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Go home, there comes one more time, here comes.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I mean, that's genius. I love that. I can picture
myself at Applebee's right now.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah, when you're having a bad Monday because you're squad lost,
there's still things like that on you.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
That's brilliant, hogs Ah.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
That makes me feel better.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
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(40:52):
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Let's do what really matters, scores and stats around the
world of sports. In between, Chris Hockey changes your life

(41:14):
forever with something else that has nothing to do with
sports matters. Up Up Up. Former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabu
dead at the age of eighty four, seventeen years as commissioner,
died of a heart failure complicated by Parkinson's disease. He
was commissioner from eighty nine to two thousand and six.

(41:38):
Zas we're gonna We're gonna let you try, and then
Zach Max and Hawk can be your backup plan. Okay,
all right cool. During his time in the league, the
league added four teams from twenty eight to thirty two.
You can go until you fail. If you can't get it,

(41:59):
then Zach Max, how can help you out? Who are
the four teams that were added during Tagloo Boo's reign
as commissioner Go the Texans, YEP, the Panthers, Yes, Jacksonville
and you're three for three. The last one's a little

(42:20):
bit tricky.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
Oh what is it?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Cleveland? Exactly? The second iteration of the Browns because the
Browns moved to Baltimore, Okay, to the Ravens, So Panthers, Jags,
the new Browns and the Texans?

Speaker 5 (42:34):
What did you take over?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Eighty nine?

Speaker 5 (42:37):
You know what's weird is I remember looking at a
football and seeing his names to the Pete Rosel's and
thinking how weird that was? Yeah, because Pete Roselle was
the commissioner forever. You know, that was the name on
all the footballs I got as a little kid.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
I didn't fact check this, but I'm gonna believe it
because it was on ESPN dot com. Just think about
this for a second. Seventeen years, right, what seventeen years?
According to some of the franchises under his reign, increased tenfold. Wow,
ten x in seventeen years is nuts. That's awesome. Unless

(43:13):
you read this, I don't think this is guessable, but
let's see if you guys can get it. He said
his biggest regrets as commissioner happened about five years in.
What is his biggest regrets as NFL commissioner, Man, this
would be unbelievable if you got it, because I don't
think this is guessable unless you read it in the

(43:35):
last twelve hours.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
I didn't read in the last twelve hours, but I
think I know what it is. They played like the
now that was before his reign. They played on a
day when they shouldn't have played.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Am I right? No, okay, all right, I'm.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Taking actually well, in his case, I think it's actually
the opposite. I think he said taking off after nine
to eleven is one of the best decisions he ever made. Okay, God,
and I believe other leagues followed his lead that the
NFL is like we're shutting it down on Sunday, we're
not playing, and everybody else followed suit. Like I said,
this is pretty tough to guess. You said it. It

(44:10):
was five years into his Yep, he started in eighty nine.
And no, Zach, it's not OJ related. Is that where
you were going to? God?

Speaker 5 (44:23):
He didn't take off the day Alex was born.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Nope, Okay, nope.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
At the hospital like Rosie was.

Speaker 8 (44:32):
No.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, he regretted letting me live to my first birthday. No, no, no,
He says his biggest regret as commissioner was allowing both
the Rams and the Raiders to leave LA after the
ninety four season. Oh said he shouldn't have let that happen.
Should have found a way to keep one or both
in LA. Yeah he's not wrong though, but I mean, yeah,
well they're the Rams are back now with the Chargers there,

(44:55):
and the Raiders are in a better spot anyway. You
put somebody in. We have two t tams in LA
and one in Vegas. Sounds great, sounds great. What really matters, though,
is this.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
It was on this date in nineteen seventy five, seventeen
miles from shore, the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Sank Oh God, what a slammer of a song.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Launched on June seventh of nineteen fifty eight. She was
the largest ship on the Great Lakes remains the largest
to have sunk on the lake.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
All Right, I'm about to ask the dumbest, good possible question,
and Chris, you were what five at the time, four
or five? Yeah, it was four y So this is
a question you can't answer because you weren't old enough
to take this in. Jaws also came out summer of
seventy five. Right, remember we heard we've heard people that
lived through Jaws that said people struggled to go in bathtubs, pools, lakes,

(45:52):
rivers like it. Just the idea of going in water
freaked everybody out.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Can you imagine Edmund Fitzgerald is sinking? Don't you think
everybody on that, because that's that's superior? Correct, yes, RC
yeah yeah yeah, which which when you get out there,
that looks like the freaking looks like the freaking ocean.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
I wonder if in any of those people's final moments
they thought, am I going to get attacked by a
shark out here? Oh? Yeah, Like I said, dumbest possible question,
But I'm just saying it was the summer that everyone
had shark fever. Now they're probably focused on their life
about to end.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, they're probably like, I should have stayed home.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Wright and watched Jaws.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Yeah ooh but like, yeah, I mean, I see what
you're saying, because that's an a fear they wouldn't have
had a year before that.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
That's my point. Yeah, Yeah, as dumb as it sounds,
my point is that is for a lot of people
in nineteen seventy five, that was an absolute newfound horror
to live through. And you're in the middle of a giant, giant,
giant piece of water and you're going down for the
count and now you're going well, geez, even if I
don't drown here, do I have to worry about great

(47:01):
white sharks in the middle of Lake Superior?

Speaker 5 (47:03):
Can I tell you something else that I had another
observation that's related, but only vaguely barely, even though they
say Jack and Rose entirely too much. And now I
can't watch it without thinking sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I really can't. I can't.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
I don't know why they have to do that. I
don't know why they have to say their names. Why
do they have to do that that doesn't happen in
real life.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I love that movie, but it's been my complaint since
day one. I've never understood why they have to have
it in every sentence, because I get, like, you just said,
nobody does that, and nobody nobody, and now.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
But that said exactly what you just said is the truth.
That's a fantastic film, fantastic. Watched it on Saturday a
very long time. It just happened to be on at
a time where I was done for the day and
I started watching it and I was like, this is
really well done. And the part where the guy is
at the top of the ship and he falls down
and hits his head on the propeller, goes, oh, I

(47:53):
love that so.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Much.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
I wait for it like it's my birthday.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I love that. Okay, I love that part pretty good.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
I loved also like the the little moments where what's
her face looks at somebody in the eye and they're
all about to die and they all know it, and
and uh, the look on her face. She's so pretty
in that moment, and you're thinking, wow, that that uh,
that's a real, real rough moment they're having together, but
she still looks great.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Shout out to Kate wings lit.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
And then how about when she's on the door and
she's trying to wake Jack up and and uh and
you're thinking yourself, Jack's dead, call for the boat, lady.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
And then with that old sexy Bee throws that that
diamond over the side of the boat, You're like, give
it to your daughter, you old b she's right over
back there.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
She's poor as hell, that old sexy b wood Hawk
mm hmm. Yes, but he loves thrifting and garage sailing antique, right,
So that's why he would. But he's not a big
fan of throwing random jewelry in the water. He would
want to sell that at a garage to give it

(49:08):
to your granddaughter or that.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
She's right back there getting ready to get it on
with Bill Paxton.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah, and he's going to end up in a twister. Yeah,
good point already did yeah? Hi u yeah? Oh hi
hi hi beg Hey you.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
What did I do?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
You don't get to meet the commissioner when you're a
third round pick? Correct? No, But did you ever Peter Rose,
you ever crossed paths with Paul Tagliabu or not? That's
the one I can't say that it did, didn't tell Yeah,
you know.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
What I did realize though, Ben, and you've probably had this.
I don't know if you ever had. I don't know
if anybody else ever has. I had never shook hands
with a billionaire until I shook hands with the commissioner
of the league. He's a billionaire, right, have we not
read that?

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I don't think so?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Is he not?

Speaker 1 (49:56):
He's got to be close if he's not, because he's
I mean, he's got a he's got hundreds of millions, right,
Those contracts are hundreds of millions, So I think he's
somewhere in that. I don't know. Maybe if you think
Adel's a billionaire. His net worth is estimated to two
hundred and fifty million. That's all.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Did you make that a year?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Six broke? That's a year.

Speaker 9 (50:19):
I feel like that's way high. I thought he was
like in the thirty to forty million range, but it's
not a bit.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, you know, that's a good question, though, richest person
you've ever stricted?

Speaker 5 (50:29):
He's the richest person I've ever shaken hands with.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
What about you, Benjamin? Did you shake Ryan Reynold's hand
when you met him? No, I just grabbed his butt.
That counts.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Yeah, if you're if you're knuckle deep, you can say
you know the guy.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
It was kind of a good game friendship, wasn't It
wasn't really a squeeze, Oh your brains.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
That's a really good question.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
The richest person ben has ever shaken hands with? You're interrupting,
Ben I mean, it's got to be like an Aaron
Rodgers or Brett far Like.

Speaker 9 (51:01):
I don't think that even some of the quote unquote
famous people that I've meant, I don't think they have
net worth that's more than some of those guys.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Right, Like what about business people?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I mean, look at Kirk Cousins. He's a multip one
hundred billionaire, right.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
Yeah, I've shaken his hand, It's true.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, which is why it's kind of weird that, Like,
because Goodell is basically the CEO of this company, yeah,
and bringing in literally billions of revenue. He's probably the
most underpaid CEO in the world of business, right, I
mean even tag But if he ten you know, ten
xt all those accounts, he and any other business would

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probably be absolutely a billy.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
I think Goodell is twenty guest, Yeah, a bunch of tea, Yeah, has.

Speaker 9 (51:45):
Well, I think I think the fault with all of
that is the NFL is not a publicly traded company.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Well played.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
The fault in Our Stars.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Cry never seen? Oh oh my god, unders how can
I stop? Twenty minutes in the theater? I gave it
on for a while, Yeah, I need you know, sometimes
those movies, it's sort of like, is it Marley and Me?

Speaker 5 (52:13):
What?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I know?

Speaker 1 (52:14):
It's you try Yeah Marley, fine, Yeah, I've not seen that. Yeah,
I don't I don't know. Well, I don't want to
watch that. I love when he performs Three Little Birds,
though I.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
Don't want to I don't want to be controversial. But
that dog deserved it.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Why is the dog mean? Dude? Watch it you'll understand
his take. It makes a lot of sense. Would you
make a movie about a dog dying? No? Thank you?
Like I get like killing Kujo? Isn't that how he goes?
Like killing a nice dog named Marvel? Why is it
okay to kill Kujo because he's a killer beat if

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he's misunderstood.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
No offense, dude, But God killed Marley?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think anybody. I don't
think any one person. Mary isn't the vet?

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Did he get hit by a.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Sauce? Name a couple of other famous fictional Marley's go
fictional the Marlee in the Christmas Got it nice? And
come on, man, I'm setting this one up on a
freaking platter for you, Marlee crotch it no, come on.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Man, it's real close on my brain too. There's somebody
you should know that I can't.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Think of either, especially this time of the year. Man,
Come on, you can get there. I have no idea
what you're asking about, and you're gonna watch this movie.
I bet six times in the next two months.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Debby, does Marley good for Marley?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Is it in Christmas Vacation?

Speaker 5 (53:55):
No Home Alone?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Oh yeah, old man Mary, old man that's a deep cut,
puts their body parts in the trash. You think so,
you think you would have got there eventually.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
Yeah, you've seen that movie.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
I've seen that movie a lot.

Speaker 9 (54:15):
Yeah, before we go to break, I was gonna say
I was sitting in my car waiting for the Tagleboo
guests as far as like what like what his biggest
regret was, My guess was and was way off.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Was canceling the World League?

Speaker 5 (54:30):
No kidding that was gonna be, was gonna be?

Speaker 9 (54:33):
That was gonna be my obscure guest, just because of
like how popular the NFL Europe Games are now and
like what the.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Passion that they're going on. But that was wrong. Yeah,
but you look back at his his answer and you go, yeah,
two teams in Los Angeles, giant, giant market and he
let two teams leave under his watch. That's probably not ideal,
but again, sometimes you know what they a.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
The Raiders, Sorry, go ahead, the Raiders went back to Oakland.
Is he talking about the Rams going to Anaheim or
the Rams going to Lewis? Yes, that's right, So that
did happen and said, okay, got it.

Speaker 9 (55:11):
Well, I don't know how the financials are working out
for both teams, but it still seems like the Chargers
are struggling.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
In Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
It does.

Speaker 9 (55:20):
Yeah, I mean it was sad on that THURSDA Night
game when it was only about seventy percent Fuld.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Even last night you could hear when Friarmuth caught a pass,
the whole crowd went mooth or whatever. They cheer when
he catches the ball because it's all Pittsburgh fans. Yes, yeah,
all right, we'll ask Ben about JJ McCarthy, about Lamar Jackson,
about the Baltimore Ravens beating the Minnesota Vikings, and much
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Speaker 5 (56:14):
Sustained winds were as high as sixty seven miles per
hour sustained winds six, with severe gusts reaching eighty six
miles per hour. The day that the Edmund Fitzgerald went down,
man just stayed nineteen seventy five sustained winds of sixty
seven miles per hour? Can you even imagine that?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
How many people died?

Speaker 5 (56:32):
Twenty eight twenty nine? So let me look twenty nine
twenty nine. Wave heights were consistently between sixteen and eighteen feet.
The accompanying ship Arthur m Anderson, which was, you know,
trying to trying to get where the Fitzgeriald was going,
reported they were being battered by waves as high as
thirty five feet.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
All right, I retract my Great White Shark take yeah,
because if it's that cold, yeah, it's that windy, yeah,
and the waves are that significant, I don't think you're
brain even for one second. Even if you saw Jaws
and it was the scariest movie you had ever seen, Yeah,
I don't know if you're going I'm worrying about sharks
right now, right, I think you're just getting tossed around
like you're in a washing machine and it's freezing.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
You mustn't you must know like it's you're not gonna
make it, right. I mean, they've been on the they
this isn't their first ride across the water. Good point, right,
And by the way, they got a full capacity, So
they're sinking. They're sunk, real low in the water, even
when it's nice outside. So man, I can't even imagine.

(57:34):
And the storm I was just reading the details of
the storm that blew in, like maybe today, with the
technology we have, we might have been able to give
them a warning. But this storm hit them. They were
supposed to get a regular storm. They knew they were
going to get a storm. They didn't know they were
going to get this, right, it was what do they
call it a something cyclone? Bomb cyclone said, thank you
bomb cyclone. Yeah, the Witch of November storm they call it.

Speaker 10 (57:55):
They don't even fully know exactly how it crashed, right,
that's right. I've read that they think they could have
just like sunk, it could have nose dived also, which
is a terrified.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Imagine imagine that. They do know that when they found
it it was in two pieces, but they also think,
you know, again, like I said, it had heavy cargo,
which is you know, what are you going to do?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Right?

Speaker 5 (58:14):
I mean, they think that maybe there were they lost
some hatch covers, so water coming over the decks and
it was just going right into it, you know. I mean,
I can't imagine the terror. And again, you know, they're
on Lake Superior, which is a lake, but they weren't
that far from shore when they found the ship. There
were I think six hundred and fifty feet five hundred

(58:36):
and thirty feet below the water line. Well, yeah, below
the water line five hundred and thirty feet on the lake.

Speaker 9 (58:42):
Yeah, I thought they were only like I completely could
be round, like forty miles from shore might be like that.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Less than that. Let me look seventeen miles from short,
seventeen miles from shore, which and.

Speaker 9 (58:57):
What I didn't know either was I thought because because
we celebrated so much here for some reason, Yeah, it
didn't crash anywhere close to Minnesota. It was like on
the far east side of Lake Superior. And the only
reason why we sort of like talk about is because
it took off. I think it's last its last like

(59:18):
port was in Minnesota and then it went out to
the east.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
That's the president.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
Why would you bring that on us today's day, man,
that's just date nineteen seventy five. I'm asking AI to
show me a map. But where I went. Oh, you're right, man,
like you know how we're the finger point of superior, right,
And I'm saying right there, it's if you imagine, like
this is the finger point. It went down over here,
like by my wrist. That's what I'm looking at right here.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Yeah, it's it's seventeen miles off the coast of what
I mean, not us, clearly not us.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
So Saint Marie, Salt Saint Marie, Yeah, Salt Sat Marie.
So technically that's Michigan, which yeah, man, crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
When they say, like it's crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:00:06):
Super preserved too because of where it's at in the
lake and in the water being so cold that it's
like probably one of the most preserved, but that nobody
will probably ever dive down there to see it again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
If it's an idea, I have a lot of ideas.
Nobody seems to listen to me. What if I spend
the next year or two designing some kind of a
submersible and it'll be just enough for the six of
us to like to like what you're thinking. We'll go
down there and we'll take pictures. Will be the first
to like, really explore it. It'll be put together pretty haphazardly,

(01:00:43):
but we got to hurry up and see it. I
have I have a video game controller. I have a
bucket we can all use for a bathroom. Okay, And
I would like to name it after one of my
favorite American gladiators, if that's possible, Laser. I was thinking tight.
That's a good one too. Yeah, yeah, that's not a
bad idea. Thank you. Why doesn't anybody listen to me?

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Wonder do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Ben? Your hands out? I'm in? Oh, you're in. Okay,
it's so Zach. It's just me and Ben so far,
and it's anybody else. Can you know we're good? Tommy,
he's in. Tommy just turned into aqua man.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Well, there's one way for you to be joined with
Ben for the rest ever. Yeah, for it to implode
and you guys to become one bing. Oh yeah, i'd
come one. Yeah, I'd love to share pink missed with you. Oh,
Pink missed great name for a band.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah, not really. That's also, by the way, the second
time in a week Sauce has referenced the Spice Girls
song two becomes great song. Second time in a week. Yeah,
still came out.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
You just love it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, I do. All right, let's do more of what
really matters, scores and stats around the world of sports.
Benjamin Ravens twenty seven, Vikings nineteen The floor is yours.

Speaker 9 (01:01:54):
Well once again, I know that we're going to talk
in greater detail later, but I would just say that
in the theme of the game was we gave that
game away, we lost that game versus the Ravens winning
that game. It's it's frustrating, obviously, it's annoying. It's like,
it's almost more annoying than it is frustrating. I agree

(01:02:14):
with you that there was there is a there is
some very careful language being used with the false starts
as to seemingly not throw McCarthy under the bus, which
is interesting because I just don't know why in the
course of a week you would change things or what

(01:02:38):
was changed or what was different.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
But yeah, eight false starts. You can't you can't do that.
So I don't mean to throw you under the bus
or put you in the cornery. Do you believe it
was that was the problem, that whatever was going wrong,
that it was McCarthy's cadence that was the main reason
for the vast majority of those eight.

Speaker 9 (01:02:55):
I mean, it can usually in these situations, not just
one thing. But I thought Brian O'Neill said something that
was interesting. He said, well, you know, there's just a
lot there was. There was a lot going on in
this game. I'm like, what was going It wasn't like
it to me. It was not a complicated front. They
didn't move like our defense moves where they were trying

(01:03:18):
to give dummy cadences just to get them to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
To flash something, and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
We give sauce cadences.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
So all right, so help me out with that, because
I thought that was interesting too. I didn't understand the context.
But one of the reporters asked Koc, and I don't
remember which one it was, asked if he thought that
the Ravens were simulating the snap count, and he said
he hadn't heard that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
Aaron Jones mentioned something like that, So maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
That's why, Maybe that's why somebody asked Koc that so
maybe the Vikings players were accusing the Ravens of being
part of the problem, but Kevin, at least initially after
the game, said that that wasn't the case. But maybe
that's where that's leaking through. Players thought that the Ravens
were cheap.

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
You know, usually in these situations where we're on offense
at home and we don't have to necessary to deal
with the crowd noise, that's you do that that happens
one time at the start of the game, and you
go immediately to the officials and say, they're simulated cadence there,
you know, and they're listening for that. I don't see
that happening seven to six, eight, you know a bunch

(01:04:23):
more times. Yeah, I did not want to say those
numbers together. A bunch more times in the game. It
happens a couple of times, and you complain about it,
and they usually like listen for it, and it doesn't
happen again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
So, you know, I'm very confused on this.

Speaker 9 (01:04:38):
Late in the season, McCarthy's been around, You had a
whole week of practice. What really changed from last week
to this week, even from the start of the season,
I don't know. I don't know all I know is
you can't win football games like that, and you can't
win football games when you basically have five turnovers and
they have zero. I mean we had, we had three,
and it was actually I mean, I think in the

(01:04:59):
stat books as we were there's three fourth down conversions
of you know, three turnover on downs, but I think
the one was super late in the game it didn't matter.
So you know, two critical fourth downs that we didn't
convert on and then our defense didn't take the ball
away once.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
It's just not winning football.

Speaker 9 (01:05:17):
And the decision making I thought by McCarthy was less
than optim optimal, and you know he was super inaccurate
as the game went on. So you know, a lot
of different factors obviously, but when you when you boil
it down, it was turnovers and it was penalties that
we committed and nothing that they did. It's not like
it's not like they were making unbelievable plays on some

(01:05:39):
of those turnovers. It was just stupid turnovers by us.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
Can we expound upon real quick the the entire idea
of the snap counts and how they changed. Because I
mentioned it earlier, Ben a coach actually said earlier that
when we're when we're the on the road, because it's
gonna be a lot of environment, you have a different cadence.
I'm going to guess a simpler cadence because you have
to do different things, and then when you're home they're

(01:06:04):
more involved, and then they throughout the game tried to
simplify them. So obviously, I think when you read through
the lines, there's something going on with what JJ's doing
with the cadence right. Whether it's his fault or not,
I have no idea, but there's something going on there
that said, I know you played defense, but how different,
how many different cadences are there, and how aggressive do
they get.

Speaker 9 (01:06:24):
I didn't think that they're all that different. I mean
in my experience listening to quarterbacks home and away. I mean,
first of all, I mean it's probably a hard thing
to really talk about because even as defensive players, we
heard the cadence, but you didn't pay attention to the cadence.
You know, you could hear the inflection, and you could hear,

(01:06:49):
you know, when they try to hard count you in
certain situations. Sure that would throw you off a little bit,
but by and large, you trained to not really think
about what they're saying. Because it's just too it's too
much verbidge, it's too many words. It's to me like Okay,
they're gonna they're gonna can this, so they're gonna kill this,
so they're gonna do that, and like, okay, we know
they're going to a secondary play. But again, in that

(01:07:10):
in those moments, you're not necessarily always thinking about like, okay,
well this is what they they're going to change the
play into. You just kind of you just kind of
get ready to get off on the ball and h
and react the best way that you can. So you know,
I'm not the best person to talk about the differences
in cadence, but at least from what I hear, it's

(01:07:32):
not that much different, not to the point where the
whole offensive line, including the wide receivers, are confused for
sixty minutes about what's going on that that part of
it doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Let me play I'm kind of reading the close captioning
on Aaron Jones, and he says some interesting things about
the cadence. Can I play this for you guys?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
Oh, come on, where's it that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
The sorry however, haven't done in the past or not
really just sometimes it's hard to be hard to hear.
They're making move calls up front, so it sounds like
sometimes it sounds like you could be JJ say hut.
But they're they're making move calls and you see them
stem and so they're they're trying they're trying to get
them to jump in.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
They're playing a little game the Yeah, they're playing a little.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Game there too. So that's what they get paid to do.
And we just got to lock into the work.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
So they're they're making calls on the defense and and
he's saying that it's but maybe he's just grasped from
for straws there. I don't know, right, because the defense
is allowed to make calls, they are allowed to say
hu hut hut.

Speaker 9 (01:08:33):
But right, I mean they could be saying something that's
similar intentionally using words that sound similar.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
It's possible. And if that's the case, good on them.

Speaker 9 (01:08:44):
Yeah, you know, it's it's just it is part of
the games on ship is as long as you're not
saying the actual word that the quarterbacks are using hit
hit or hut hut or whatever or go go. Yeah,
I think they're allowed to say that. I mean, we're
we're allowed to bar audibles out. We're you know, defensive
line are allowed to talk to each other on the
line when they got their hand in the dirt, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
So, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:09:07):
Maybe that part of their plan is to uh decipher
what the calls are from the offense for the next
game and they come up, they make their audibles and
checks sound similar.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
It's kind of genius.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
So, so's that character from baseball Pizza the Hut.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Oh you can't do that, dude, Max jumped off side.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Oh sorry, Max, Hey, who did your brother compare you
to in in grade school? It was jab of the hut?

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Oh god, that's two Max.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Sorry, I moved, I moved. Stop making it. Stop making
thank you. When when Kel eventually kicks you out of
the house, you're gonna go into the woods and gather
some sticks and some mud and you're gonna build yourself
a little hot damn it. Oh dang it, Max, stop sauce.
You do one, me do one. This is gonna be

(01:09:58):
a time where well, no, let me think about what
I would use pizza the hut. Oh yeah, there's sometimes
the thing that used to be uh it was Amazon.
Before Amazon, it was a finger eleven. I don't get

(01:10:19):
this bit.

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
I hate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
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