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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Swellthy Avatar early this year, you know, last year Avatar.
For those that don't know avatars, aggravated vikings anticipatory traumatic
abandonment reactions syndrome. You know how there ain't no cure
for the summertime blues. We don't know if there's a
cure for Avatar. We think the only thing that would
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rid Planet Earth or at least the Upper Midwest with
Avatar would be a Big Game victory for the soon
to be Big Game World Champion of Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But until that occurs, we'll never know.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's like when the gold Does Twins Rapaporn Jones. I
don't recall the first names.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
They were the corner.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
They were the management team for gentleman Jerry Cooney, a
undefeated heavyweight out of New Joysey back in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And he was knocking everybody out.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
In the first round, and some media schlub ass and
they said, can he take a punch? And one of
the gold Dust Twins said, we might never know. Mike
Jones and Denny Rappaport, we might never find out. He
might never get hit. Boy.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
He finally didn't get hit.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
He got knocked out by the Holmes in the thirteenth
round and then he went on to that was basically it.
He fought half a dozen more times, lost four of them.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Was a similar SERI with Monday Night Football Guys Comedy.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes I I am. I played golf with Jerry Cooney
before Jerry came to town. He was going to do
a he was he was in a time for a
fundraiser as a guest of Scotland Do. They were raising
money for Ladue's charity and it was going to be
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a sparring session, you know, with headgear and big sixteen
ounce gloves. Cooney was going to spar Brock Lesnar in
the Superstar Morris. Both Lesnar and.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Morris backed out the day.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
No, yep, So it was my job. Jerry l liked
to golf, so it was my job to set up golf.
So my brother and I played with gentlemen Jerry Cooney
and Scotty LaDue at the Old Haitians Country Club. And
I kind of regret that he didn't ask Jerry a
lot about his career because I didn't know if that's
what you know, you know it is tendebe, you know,
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it's you know, well known people that happens to you
all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What's it like being Tenabee? How did you come up
with tarpshooter?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You know, can you tell that story about when you
were really just trying to check swing it in a
slow pitch softball game on a three home run limit
league and you hit it over the fence. You get
those things all the time, and after a while you
get tired of answering those questions.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So it's like, don't you so tell me about when
you got stopped by Larry Holmes, Tell me about when
you knocked out this guy, Tell me about this, Tell
me about that emphasis la.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So I didn't talk much.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
We just basically played golf. But I look back on it,
wish I would have spent more time by talking to him,
but we didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean talking about his career. But what we did
not do that?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, So it's basically, Uh, didn't the lights draw the
curtain at fade to black?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That was boy?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's this this roller this is the Viking season. I
would compare it to Valley Fair the roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'd very fair.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
What does it called the valley Fair on the roller coaster?
Is a viper or Venom. Well they have one that's viper.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I only go back to the like Excalibur days and
the Corkscrew and wild Things.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, maybe that's it new stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I haven't been on wild Thing.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Uh uh uh, you make my hot scene.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I've had a new one since wild Thing.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So you're up and you're down. We were so high.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
She's so above me, so love, so lovely, like Cleopatra
Joan of arc Afro Deiti.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You're saying I should have done a roller coaster of
love for.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The Maybe that's what we should.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know that I actually did think about that.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Did you really yea love roller coaster? You can say
what can you do it? I'll say what love? And
we could have done it because it's been around. I mean,
we were so high last week after a convincing victory
over a pretty good Detroit team.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
We saw how good they were again yesterday.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
See Danny Campbell was calling the place I did the
whole first fifty ten minutes of his news conference after
the game. They were asking him about it, and he tried.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
To be kind.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
No, no, John Morton is still helping me a lot.
I just thought we had to do a little something different.
That was basically John Morton got demoted. You're not camploss
douce that I first noticed because Campbell's wearing readers of
the sidelights staring at the place sheet. I always loved
that he looked like Santa Claus without the beard, in
the little tiny glasses. But yeah, anyway, so we beat
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the Lions. We put ourselves back in the thick of things.
JJ was pretty good, wasn't great. There's going to be
a learning curve. You know, he's on training wheels, I
guess right. And then yesterday got in such a good
start to the game too. Didn't Baltimore go three and
out or maybe they got one first down, but they
were done. They punted, we marched down. We just carved
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them up, I mean, just sliced and diced. And McCarthy
looked at running game was okay and it looked good.
And then even at a halftime lead, and then it
just we kind of blew it on either side. You
know how they always say one of the most important
parts of the game is the two minutes going into
the half and.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The two minutes coming out of the house.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
The Vikings kind of just we had the ball and
we gave it up with in three downs, right, and
then we throw a couple of incompletions because yeah, because
the coach is obsessed with throwing the football, and maybe
I don't recall the exact circumstance, maybe that was the
any thing we could do. But then the Ravens got
the ball back and within they didn't have much more
than what forty seconds, thirty whatever it was, they got
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into field goal range, they kicked the figure they're down
I think three at the half or four whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Maybe was just like.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
At one point and then we got the ball. Did
we fumble the opening kickoff? Was that that fumble or
was that later on?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
It all kind of runs them that they kicked the
field goal to take the lead.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Okay, that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So somehow we I think we were we we Oh,
we started the half with a couple of ice runs.
I think we ran, got a couple of a couple
of first downs. Then we had to give the ball
up and we got behind me and the Ravens never
looked back. And I didn't think the Ravens played that well,
to be honest with you. I mean, Lamar looked he
looked like wentz well a little better. But you know
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what I'm saying. It wasn't like he was doing anything spectacular.
They were just and the Vikings defense, we'll get it
all of it as we go on here. The Vikings
defense actually did play well again. They stopped the Ravens
on an numerous driving forced them to kick figgies until
it got deeper into the second half. But Vikings lose.
They dropped to four and five.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, it was just it was not fun.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
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Speaker 2 (08:48):
So there's a lot to sift through.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Is it possible that US Bank Stadium is the Vikings
Libria Tarpet? Haven't they lost that four in a row there?
Or three of the last four they've not played there?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
The Cincinnati game.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, it's not. It's supposed to be home, sweet home.
They had a weird schedule. They had two games across
the pond back to back. But there's there is a
lot to sift through. I bring up Librea Tarpet because
someday archaeologists and paleontologists will sift through the brubble that
will be sixteen hundred you to ka Avenue South, my
Librea tarpet and stubble across the skeletal.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Remains of the common man. There's plenty to sift through.
The uh nine, did you see my tweet?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I did?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The listener gave that to me. I'm full disclosure. Usually
I just steal them.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I don't steal that they provide it to me, and
I don't credit, but I will credit this time. It
was a listener that I think I've heard from before,
but it wasn't more Amsterdam guy.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
When I told him about it, he was bitter that
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Come up with it's selling a very more Amsterdam guy type.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And it went some like instead of his altered he's
got the rename his alter ego from nine he's playing
like this to nine to five. He's gonna have to
get a desk job. He didn't have the most efficient
of games. He threw a couple of interceptions in the
game twenty for forty two one touchdown, two interceptions. I
mean he had more incompletions that he had completions he
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looked a little like Sam Darnold in that Lion's game
last year. Remember that last Lions game of the season
was the last game of the season. Why, he's trying
to clinch homefield advantage about the plaoffs, And he overthrew receivers.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And almost like he was he was jacked up on
caffeine or something. Just overthrew every wide receiver. And I'm
telling you, we saw that. It seemed like a half
a dozen times with.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
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Speaker 2 (10:52):
The greens, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Right when you're chipping from off the green and there's
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there's different runs, there's different elevations of how you can
get it on the ground right away and let it roll.
You can, and yes you can fifty of the way
you can have the ball in the air. Like he
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doesn't seem to have the ability to change between It's
kind of like me, that's how I golfed. Yeah, I
can only chip the one way. Yeah, I can only
chip one way. He doesn't seem to have like the
different variations in his ability to throw the football, which
might explain why they all get batted down at the
line because he can't actually put a little touch over
the line.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I thought I read that there was three batted down passes.
There were more than that.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Wasn't there was there only three? It felt like more.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I think there were more. I think there were five
or six.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I felt like Kyle Hamilton alone had three.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, it seemed like it was more than that to me.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Well, you're right, you know, and we talked a couple
of times last week about during the Lions game, Brady
talked about having to have those three kind of throws,
the one you have to you know, you throw the
frozen rope, you throw it hard, it in there, and
you have your touch passes and you're you know, all
the different kinds of passes. And you're right. He didn't
really seem to have that touch pass. He threw a
couple of really nifty balls he always does. I mean,
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how many times have you You and I have talked
about this so often? Every guy in the league and
quarterback a little bit. That's why they're there. You don't
get drafted all of a sudden, you get in there, go,
this guy's got zero idea what he's doing. They generally
it's just that once they get you know, it's you
can play Fridays and Saturdays. You think about it in
college football, how many major universities are there. There's literally
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hundreds there as the thousands of college football players, you
narrow that down. In NFL fifty three guys on thirty
two teams, you're talking about the best in the world, right,
So it's for a lot of guys, it's just the
games too fast. They just don't have the talent. They're
all right, but they can't do it. And look he's
still I'm not throwing in the towle, lon No, and
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not by any shape any way, shape or form. But yeah,
there's going to be a learning curve there. And that
was part of the problem with you know, with with
with with the whole, with with.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
The whole.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
The team's playing.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You know what they did was, you know, they they
they kind of wanted to have it both ways. We
want to win now, so you you you you improve
the interior of both lines and then you see if
you can kind of spoon feed a a young quarterback
and if you provide them with you know, enough weapons
and enough cover, enough time and a good defense.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And good protection and give the time you can.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Sorry, maybe we can win some games and it's it's
but yesterday was.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It was not good.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There are a lot of people are complaining about the
play calling again because they did run the ball pretty well, I.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Mean, but they kind of went away from the run.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And I think there was that one point in the
game where people we had a third and one, was
it near midfield or just into Baltimore teary, and they
decided to go for the long passing Jefferson incomplete and
then what happened on the next play was it a
sack or was it the interception?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Something happened. I think that justin Jefferson wanted the interception.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Was that the interview That was right, That's exactly what happened.
It was the interception is what happened. The coach was
asked about.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It in the postgame news conference.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
He said, well, look, I'll take Jefferson one on one
every time, and I don't He's right, sure, you don't
expect the players to get tangled up in blue, but
they did, and then he said I was going to
go on fourth down no matter what, which we got
to take his word for it, and he probably was,
but there are those that would still say, why aren't
you just running on thirty one? You know, why do
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we have to you know? And again I think I
think most teams like to take that shot, so I
can't really I can't be too critical of that decision.
But it does seem like he likes to throw. I mean,
that's forty two passes in the games. I wonder did
I just say there's not the number of passes. That's
a lot of throw especially for a young kid.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But you know, the.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Game situations kind of dictate what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Defense.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I thought played they stopped Baltimore on on a number
of occasions, and when they got into Viking territory and
they have to settle for figies.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But at the very end, I don't know if it
was getting tuckered or not.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think that's that's always that's always thrown out as
an alibis the defense is starting to.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Get a little tired. Well, yeah, we're all.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Tired, so but yeah, it was it was a game
that they could have had.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I mean, It.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Wasn't like Baltimore is brilliant. The the bikers were pretty
good early. Uh the fumble by the Price kid, you know,
he had a big story, rat Rode a bottom fish
rap factory west Side had been really good returner for us,
and then it seems like almost I'd read in the
story about him where he said, you know, I told
him I'm going to return, I'm going to return on
one of these days, and I think he was He's
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so determined to make an impact, which I admire, right,
I admire.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I admire what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But that was a critical turn of yeah, right, well,
he looked he fumbled twice, covered one one.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
They were covered. I think they scored a tonny on it.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
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Speaker 2 (16:45):
A couple thirteen to fourteen pass common Man program. I'm common.
He's tend to be head coach at assuming a VP game.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
World Champion Minnesota Vikings Kevin O'Connell will address the assembled
media roughly twelve forty five short segment here we'll break.
We'll try to catch that as soon as it as
soon as it begins, text message here real quick.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
That says, after years of ripping the walls.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Because of postgame quotes of being outworked.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Hold on, I just lost it for a second of.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Being outworked and then saying the NFL and NHL never
mail it. In the NBA community, wonders of common will
opine on Josh Allen's postgame quote saying the Dolvision wanted
it more and outworked us. Will come and cue the
Houdini music and get out of this one, or he
will be or will he be the only talk show
host Rumdia is wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, well, no, I've never been wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
My response to that, well, there's the first time for everything,
because I don't believe it's ever happened in the National
Football League that another team just didn't put out the
effort that's required. And my guess is I didn't hear
the quote or see it, but I don't think that's
the way Alan meant it. You take a playoff in
the NFL, you'll get killed, saying with the NHL, if
your head's not on a swivel, you're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
In the NBA, they admit that they just don't play defense.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You watch it, you see it. They don't even sometimes
they don't even play defense. They just it's mad ador so.
But yeah, it sounds like that's what happens. That was
the first time for everything. So it doesn't change my
opinion on If I know you love your basketball, you
think it's the greatest sport ever you can that's great.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I like, I like I watched baby I.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Went to basketball games for ten years every week year round.
Baby brother Peter played. But I like basketball. I enjoy
it very much. I just remember when watching baby brother
Peter play. Every team he played on, every kid gave
it everything they had start to finish. They never took
time off. They never just said I'm not going to
play defense here. We see it happen in the pros
all the time. They admit it.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Here would be my defense.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And the NFL have you ever heard of load management?
Never heard a load And the NHL have you ever
heard of load management?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Load manage? No, they do it in the NBA all
the time. Yeah. I just they are gonna growing pains
with McCarthy. But it's like.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
He was as inaccurate. I mean, he was making throws
where it looked like he did have some he had
some time to throw folks. It wasn't like he was
under siege. That's a that wasn't much of a pass
rush for the most part. I mean I think it
may have been. Yeah, it was, Uh, we talked about.
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We bring up Mark Craig, often a football writer. Fish
Reight Factory West Side does this five extra points.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
He writes the race he goes.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Besides, McCarthy's worst throws came when there was no pressure.
The Ravens horrendous pass rush entered the game with only
eleven sacks, second worst in the league.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yet McCarthy looked rushed when he shouldn't have been.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Two of the eight field failed targets to Justin Jefferson
stood out as unforced what the heck misfires on fourth
and three from the Ravens fourteen and a third of
ten from the Ravens thirty five. He also had three
balls batted down to the line of scrimmage, two by
Kyle Hamilton. I thought it was more than that, he
goes on to say McCarthy sometimes looked like a guy
who needed a paper bag to breathe into hyperventilating. Yet
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the first ten times he was pressured in the first
three quarters, it completed at four to nine, including third
down conversions to Jefferson for ten and Naylor for eighteen.
Bottom line, he's good, but not good enough to beat
the typical NFL learning curve.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Buckle up.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's going to be a bumpy ride for a while.
I will say it could be for a long while. Now.
We don't know it could it could change next week.
Everybody's learning curve is different, sir. There's always the possibility
and dare I say this, and I don't want to
be the I don't want to be the bearer of
bad news. But he ain't ever learn even to the
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point where average, he doesn't become you know, a Carson
Wentz type where he weighs a backup he's okay, complain
the lead. I mean, I guess you could go anywhere
from and just would just including Viking quarterbacksually going towhere
from targeted to Ponder. And there was actually players that
weren't even as good as Ponder. I think we've had
under center over the years.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
But yeah, it's uh, there's no.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It seemed like Cousins and Darnold had no problem establishing
a chemistry with with uh, with Jet none.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I mean, he was We didn't matter which guy was thrown.
He was simply brilliant. I mean, we know the numbers.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It's the first person in NHL history to reach this
amount of catches or this amount of yards or tell
you whatever they are in the shortest amount.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Of time, right.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, he's he's been established, he's paid as the
best wide receiver in pro football. He probably is the
best wide receiver profot we've talked about. You can make
an argument or two, but that's got a change. Naylor
was good and it's really good. It didn't target, you
know what the targets on Addie. He couldn't connect on
those very much either. So yeah, there's some there's you know,
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here's what a lot of fans texted you and I
on the on the on the campag text line, the
the branch on broad Campane text on.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
They said, stop the nonsense with wins.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Let's see what we got with McCarthy where you're seeing
it now and you're gonna see it for the rest
of the year.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So this is what you're gonna have to take. It's
it can change.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
We know, you know, the Bears are pretty good. They've
won what five in a row or something four in
a row? There there there's six and three. There's no
there's not an easy game in the schedule. As the
Bills learned yesterday, what's up Pause return when we come
back to the head coach and the soon to be
a big game world champion Minnesota, bacon And should be
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