November 10, 2025 • 43 mins
Dan Barreiro opens the show reacting to the Vikings disappointing loss to the Ravens before wide receiver Adam Thielen makes his weekly appearance on the show.
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Maybe I started? This is a little too early today?
Is that possible?
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I thought of could I get him to do that?
This is like five times in a row. But then
I don't want you to lose your voice, so that
could be bad. We could start the show now, are
you sure?
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Yeah?
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I did three of them. That's enough.
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That's close enough. We'll hear more later. That's the beauty shadowing.
That's guardsy. The producer of the show. My name is
Dan Barrero, former Ringstaine Retch newspaper of the Twin Cities
and host of What We Like To affectionately refer to
occasionally as the afternoon ardvark on what is I guess
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the last cold day.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We're going to have in a while?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Think we're back in the fifties the rest of this
week after a bit of a chill in the air
over the weekend here in the Twin cities of Minneapolis
and Saint Paul, My, oh my, last week we were
celebrating singing the Candyman song, reminding us of the just
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the beautiful lyrics of that tune. Who can take a sunrise,
sprinkle it with dew, cover it with chocolate and a
miracle or two? The Candyman can it, mixes it with
love and makes the world taste good. The world tasted
the football world tasted so scrumptious a week ago?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sounded better a week ago, did it not? But we
come to.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Find out the Candyman has a cruel side, and we
saw the other end of it yesterday at the People
Stadium in downtown Minneapolis. We were reminded of the yin
of it. No that guess it'd be the yang of it.
The yen was last week. This is the yang that
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reminds us of the startling contrasts in football emotions. For
your average sports room, in this case, your average Vikings fan,
it didn't go very well after a promising start. Maybe
that added to the cruelty for your favorite football team.
Twenty seven to nineteen ultimately was the final score, and
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I guess it's fair to say I probably owe a
lot of the national pundits an apology. I'd mentioned on
the Sermons program that I thought people were making it
seem as if the Vikings winning this game at home
was going to be the upset of the century. I
had Blake Moore look nationally to follow up on my
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own unofficial view of national predictions from the various big sites,
and I think, out of like I don't know, thirty
or forty predictors, we found literally one that picked the Vikings.
And I thought, I get it. The quarterbacks back for Baltimore.
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They're good, or they have been good. There's high hopes
for them, but they they'd beaten the Bears and the Dolphins,
and I said, I just don't believe this would should
have to be the upset of the century. Well maybe
it would have been the upsod of the century in
the basis of what we saw. I don't exactly know,
because most of those pundits turned out to be one
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hundred percent right. And I guess I'm I'm pretty sure
I had another zero to three week. My pick sensibility
has just been brutal, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Brutal, and.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I We've got a lot of good Vikings talking points
to get to today. Guards he's put together some other
sound that may be part of the occasion.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You heard some of it already.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We've got an outstanding array of guests today that will
which will include we think Adam Thieling at three thirty,
Johnny Athletic at four oh two, Nacho Lebra four forty seven,
and then our old friend from their thrifty traveler, Kyle Potter.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
By the offense number seventy five. There it is.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And so we are going to deviate a little. But
I mean, maybe he'll want to talk Vikings. I'm not sure,
but I've had a lot of people asking whether we're
going to have Kyle on soon regarding the degree of
chaos for the aviation industry right now. I know we're
allegedly on the verge of a breakthrough regarding the shutdown,
but I'm told that even if that does go through,
that there will still be a ripple effect for a
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while in the aviation industry. And I know many of
you travel as well. So Kyle's going to join us.
It's scheduled to join us at five point thirty. I
think I've asked you this before, and I don't know
if you've ever settled it. Do we have any ping
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pong tables that the players can use over the course
of a day, because if we do, I think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Time to take the ping pong tables out. Oh take
them out, take them out? Oh, maybe bring them in? No, no, no, no,
I'm assuming we have them. I'm assuming we have everything.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, I'm sure we got Papa shot baskets there. I'm
guessing every possible toy game that any you know program
could have, any the national FOOTBA League team would have,
We've got it there.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I think we need to rip them all out of
there right now. I don't think we've earned any of that.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
We're sitting here under We're two games behind the bears.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
He makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And now for the second week, seven, second time in
three weeks, we're facing a must win again.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We're back to must win, right. You can't lose to
the Bears.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
No, now loose the Bears at home, then you're two
games under five hundred, going on the road to what
is it next? Seattle in Green Bay? Green Bay, then
Seattle Bay first, then Seattle. Come on, what are we
talking about here? And I gotta be honest, I first
have I felt very good about my pick, not just
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because of the way the Vikings came out early after.
You know, Baltimore looked Baltimore to me, the first half looked.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Utterly bored with being there. They did not look into it.
They looked like a team that was ready to be beaten.
Quite frankly, I didn't think Jackson looked dynamic. I didn't
think he looked that impressive. I don't think any about
the Ravens looked that good. But our problem was we
didn't build a lead we should have.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
We needed to be up in that game minimum ten
yep at the half, and what we end up being
up ten nine? Yeah, because we gave him a tree
late as well. That to me told the ball game
first half. I think the Ravens were ready to be beaten.
And the Ravens probably had more on the table than
we did given their record. You know that they have.
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You can argue they can't lose any more games. But
they didn't look that interested, or they didn't look that committed,
or they didn't look that good. And I'm sure it
was a kind of well we haven't. I don't know
what Harbass said to his team at halftime, but he
could have done the cliched. Guys, we stunk up much
of that first half, but look at the scoreboard, we're
down one. We take care of business on this first drive,
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and Koc helped to make sure that the Ravens did,
We're gonna be fine in this game.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Let's go and win the damn thing. They're gonna make
it that available to let's win it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And sure enough, second half, the Ravens took care of business.
They started running the ball better, they had just enough
good pass plays, they got help from us.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yep, we gave a couple of key areas and.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
They end up winning it. Would I say twenty seven nineteen? Yes,
we got the touchdown. Then we did the old we're
gonna go The chart says go for two, which I hate,
but we did and we did get the ball back right,
but ultimately did not have enough time enough opportunity to
do much of anything with it.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
So a.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
We talked about it all week. It's stating the obvious
that we were all you know, we were all bloated
out all that candy after the Lions game. But what
we knew was that if we didn't show some discipline
back off the chunkies for a couple of days, it
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really wasn't going to matter how good we felt eaten
all that candy on last Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday
in it, you know, sort of in the aftermath of
that kind of victory, It was all going to depend
on what we did with that opportunity. And I'll say again,
I don't think the Ravens looked unbeatable at key points
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to that ball game, but we didn't ultimately even come
close to winning the thing.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So here we are back with I think one step
closer to the reality, the realization that we might just
have to be one of these cute little clubs that
surprises people one week to the good good and then
turns around and surprises people to the bat at home
where we're having difficulty winning.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Have we won any games at home this year?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We beat Cincinnati, Oh, that's right because of the nine
defensive touchdowns in the first half.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's it. But that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
We lost to Atlanta, we lost to Philly, and yesterday
we lost to the Ravens. Oh, that's not going to
get it done, is it. No, not with our road schedule,
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Speaker 2 (10:34):
We do we.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Know whether Falness hasn't has among his aliases that Peter
Popsicle is one of them. Is it possible that that
Falless has an alias called Peter Popsicle? Very possible because
Peter Popsicle claims he's in disbelief. The surging Wild win
two in a row, including a shutout last night. Yeah,
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and Dan starts the show talking about the last place
Vikings no famous moments enup kick gas.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Offense Minnesota three or four on third down, third and
eight from the Ravens thirty one, Hockinson in motion to
the right of McCarthy. Three receivers right, one left, snap
play stoppage.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Seawan Hocky Lee staff throws flags before the snap fall
start by the center. It's a five yard penalty, it's.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Third down play Brandellen is six star, make that his
fifth start, and there must be something that he's doing
with the football before the snap.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Join us again for another famous moments end up.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Kick gas Office.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Six five.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
One guy asks, why is the Bears game a must
win to accomplish what exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's a fair question.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Maybe implicit in the question, he's saying, why are you
pretending anything is at state? And and that's understandable when
you've meandered the way the Vikings have meandered this year.
I'm going under the assumption that the Vikings internally still
want to at least believe they have a chance to
make themselves make themselves vital in the playoff chase this year.
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And if that's their intent, I think falling to when
then we would be what four and six would be
four and six heading to starting a two game road
trip that becomes fairly untenable. He may be right if
he was being sarcacic. I'm not here to tell you
that we're on You know, we're in a good position
to make any kind of a playoff run at this point.
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But given it's a division opponent, and given you've dropped
back under five hundred, and given the game is at home,
I just don't think you give yourself at that point
much margin for air. Now again, you could say, well
but what if we go on the road and win
too in a row, Dan, then things change. Then things
would probably change at least, But even that is like, well,
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then you're back to that's what's odd. Then you'd be
back to five hundred, right, And I don't think it's
the kind of year where nine and eight is going
to get you in.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I mean, right now, the Bears are in the final
playoff spot at six and three, and the Bears are
about to embark on a more difficult part of their schedule.
They've had both very soft schedule, but they have I mean,
at some point if you I keep denigrating them, but
if you keep finishing games the way they have, admittedly
against bad teams, but finding you know, comeback victories in
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pretty dramatic fashion, then you know you have to at
least get started.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're in the mix at the very least.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Even if I don't think anybody viewsed the Bears as
a serious team to make much of a playoff run.
One would say, we got a lot of good vikings
talking points, but I want to try to stay on
the clock, so I will save pretty much all of
those that Guardsy has has put together one of the
more interesting sidebars, and it is related to a talking point.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But well, well you know what, Let's go ahead and
play it real quick. Let's go ahead, Come.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
On, JJ, let's go second and fifteen from the twenty
five of the Ravens. Two receivers right, one left. McCarthy
out of the shotgun, four man rush. JJ steps up
in the pocket to the end complet. Justin Jefferson, the
intended receiver Andy was covered by a low heat Gilman.
That's six year safety from Notre Dame. Nice passed by
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McCarthy eighteen. He couldn't bring it in now it's third down. No,
it was a middle open. JJ tried to run the post.
That ball was really put right on the money. That's
what they actually passed. Actually went through the hands of
Justin Jefferson. That's one he should have come down with.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
It versus is right.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
The headline for that talking point was c c as in,
Chris Carter makes that catch. Ordinarily Justin Jefferson makes that catch.
But he didn't, and it's opened the door. It's an
interesting post mortem. And we'll talk about this with Johnny
Athletic because he made it really the point of his
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whole column that's available via the Athletic today or last
night whenever it dropped that there were some troubling aspects
to not JJ McConnell. Yeah, JJ McCarthy's performance for sure. Yeah,
but for JJ, with Justin Jefferson as well having to.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Do with.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
That. That's a catch he's got to make.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's not I wouldn't call the ball perfectly thrown like
Pete did, but it was.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Thrown well enough on a timing route that he's got
to make the catch. I think that's a catch that
I think even Jefferson agreed. He's he's got to help
his quarterback. Doesn't matter if he's a young quarterback or
an old quarterback, whoever his quarterback is, he's got to
make that play. The coverage wasn't horrible, but that's a
catch he's ordinarily going to make. The larger issue that's
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getting more national attention is the video that looks worse
on the interception right.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Where the one where he stumbled was that the one
there were two.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, there were two to him, but the third and
one as the one people are talking about the deep.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Point regarding Yeah, regarding his reaction, he didn't seem particularly
interested in pursuing becoming a defender at that point, which
is odd. I mean, the truth is we often see
offensive players pretend to try to tackle somebody. I don't
think he's the first to fall into that classification, but
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it's it didn't feel good, It didn't feel like competitor.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Guy didn't look good, didn't look like Jets.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
But the alter ego, to be honest, the yeah, because
everybody's got to have an alter ego.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We know that it was the player on the end zone.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
To me, that's where he really could have helped out
his his QB. I am not in the group because
there are a lot of people who are offended, like, well, you.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Know, Jefferson, you don't you have to do a better
job of getting the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well, they try to get him the ball, and there
are a number of inaccurate passes by McCarthy, and beyond that,
another receiver if another receiver is dominating to the degree
that Naylor was, and that's okay. The idea that you're
going to get that you should like lose your mind over.
But JJ's supposed to be the guy. There are stretches
in a game where it doesn't matter who's supposed to
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be the guy. It's the ball's getting somewhere, and in
Naylor's case, it got there a lot effectively. Unfortunately, the
accuracy from McCarthy was awful for most of the passes
to Justin Jefferson and a you to who's our other receiver,
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Jordan Arnadson that was not helpful either. So it was
that combination of things. Where were you on the interception reaction?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I just think it goes into the pot of I
didn't like his vibe all day. I didn't think he
had a very good vibe much of the day at all,
and that was concerning because he is not That might
be the only time I ever remember him seeming that down.
I don't even know if disinterested or disengaged, or people
were saying he's not into it. I just think he
was down because I do think when he breaks open,
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like on the one pass out to the right and
there's no one within six yards of him, and the
ball goes into the third row over his head.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I have to imagine that's frus trading.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
As much as he wants to be a team guy
and say it doesn't matter who my quarterback is. I've
caught a thousand yards with fifty different quarterbacks. I do
think there's probably a cumulative weight here that he hasn't
had the season he's wanted to have, and when easy
pitching catches like that don't happen, I just think it
messes with his body language.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
And one of them ended up being down by contact
anyway where he didn't respond correct. Yeah, I think it
was Jefferson. Yeah, so did Jefferson mention. I mean, we
have to factor that into the thing. Here's my bigger
problem with Justin yesterday was, you know, again, I get
I thought he got a pass interference call he didn't
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even deserve. Quite frankly, I thought the one he ended
up getting was very iffy. A TV didn't, but I did.
And he looked like to me, he was in that
mode where that's what he was constantly waiting for is
to get bailed out.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And you know, he even said it.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
He has to fight through the physicality a lot better
than he did, and there are times where he does
not fight through physicality very effectively. He just didn't seem
That's why if I'm a defensive back, that's what I'm doing.
I'm in his face as much as I can be
because I know what damage he otherwise can do. All right,
let's try to stay on schedule. We will talk to
another Vikings wide receiver, Adam Thielen. That's coming up next,
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Johnny Athletic, Ben Lieber, and Kyle Potter before we wrap
things up on what's gonna be a very busy program.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Now, famous moments, spin up a gas offense.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Straight, I have behind McCarthy, c J. Hammon in front
of Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But fall start by the offense number seventy five, five
yard penalty, second.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Down, two fists of the moving company with false starts
first and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Join us again with another famous.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Moment, spin up a gas offense.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
It's a very cool game, the game of professional football.
A week ago, you were chatting with the next guest
about a big victory on the road against the Lions. Today, unfortunately,
we got to do the post mortem on a disappointing
loss at home twenty seven to nineteen to the Baltimore Ravens.
Adam Thielen joins us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline,
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as he does every week. Thanks again for the time, sir.
Where do we begin? I guess eight fallse starts has.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Got to be.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That must have been a big topic of or will
be I assume a big topic of conversation internally, because
I know you guys break everything down. Do you have
any working theories on what might have precipitated that extraordinary
number for the home team? You know, obviously in this
case your club being the home team.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
No, we we definitely obviously it was a big topic
today in the offensive meeting, just kind of going over
the game and and really you really look at that
game and a lot of those penalties came in short yardage,
you know, after an explosive run or maybe a first
and ten, after after a earn first down like such
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momentum kind of areas that those happened and really put
us behind the sticks to start that next play where
where it's it's you kind of look at those players like, man,
what if, right, what if? What if we wouldn't have
had those false starts, what would have those drives look
like and what would this game look like? But at
the end of the day, it's something you got to fix,
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you got to clean up, and you got to figure
out what was going on. I felt like our leadership
did a great job of kind of addressing it, talking
about it, and then kind of putting in action steps
of Okay, there there's a lot of different reasons on
each one of those. They kind of had their own
story of why this or that happened. But let's let's
talk about what it looks like to be a clean
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football team, and let's kind of go back to the
basis of what that looks like. Communication, understanding the plan,
really just being prepared and ready. There's so many factors
that lead into those pre snap penalties that it's not
just oh shoot, I didn't know the snap count. You know,
there's there's a lot going on. So yeah, I think
it was good to just be able to address that,
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talk about it, and move forward.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So, you know, the obviously wiley quarterbacks can use inflection
cadence the attempt. The hope is you end up catching
the other team, right, the road team certainly jumping and
then you get at very least five yards and you
might even get a free play as well. Is there
such a thing as the case because this is this
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is a quarterback who hasn't played as much that the
in the in the way that QB emphasizes the hut
or whatever, the cadence that that can be confusing because
we saw a lot of people on your offense ordinarily
don't jump that we're all kind of jumping. Can that
be part of it is understanding exactly the cadence that's
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coming or misunderstanding the cadence, the emphasis that's coming from
the QB, from your own QB.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah, I think there's just so many factors, you know,
I think I think, yeah, definitely that that I absolutely
can be the case. I think there's also you know,
sometimes they give us a look that may be an
unscouted look, and and the and the quarterbacks got to
kind of hold the can or the kill to the
next play a little bit longer. When when those those guys,
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the big guys are in their stances for a long
period of time, it makes it tough on them. So
I think, uh, there's there's really no one particular area
to blame. I think it's just, you know, sometimes it's
just focus. Right. Sometimes it's just you're tired, You're you're
thinking about maybe two plays in your head. There's a
lot going on. Uh, you just had a big play,
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so there's momentum, there's there's a little bit of crowd noise,
there's there's so many factors that lead into it, and
at the end of the day, you got to work
on all of them, right. I think I think coach
did a great job, and I'm not gonna get in
the exact details, but he kind of went over like
five different steps of like, okay, yes, like could the
quarterback do a better job of being quicker with the
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cans and the kills and and those things? Yeah, for sure.
Can we do a better job of focusing and understanding
the plan and understanding when we're gonna can versus different
different looks. You know, there's kind of a a five
six steps that it's going to take to really clean
that up. And sometimes it's just it's just somebody, you know, again,
being tired and not focused on the snap count and
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and you have a brain part. You know, that happens too,
but unfortunately it happened in a lot of different cases,
by a lot of different groups, so that can't happen.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I viewed, I want I'm curious to get your opinion
on this. I thought the game, from your guys perspective,
was lost in the first half. I thought, obviously the
first drive was terrific. After three and out for them,
they to me, didn't look really I didn't think Lamar
looked particularly dynamic through the early part of the game.
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Their run game that I thought your defense was doing
a pretty good job. And yet I look up at
the scoreboard after that late gift and at halftime it's
ten to nine.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You're still ahead, but it's one.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It felt to me like, you know, this game goes
you sort of have to get it going, take advantage
when a game is going your way. And I thought,
you know, I felt, on the basis of what i'd seen,
you guys should have been up ten at the half.
And who knows what happens at that point because there's
still another half to play, But it felt like you
should have been further ahead by halftime.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
What did you see? What did you think?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah? I feel like that's what makes games like that
even more frustrating. On Monday, made you feel like there's
so many opportunities. Our defense played absolutely fantastic and really
give us a lot of great opportunities. And when they're
playing that good against a really good offense and a
and an MVP quarterback in the past, you you gotta
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take advantage of it. And I feel I understand where
you're coming from where you kind of feel like, man,
that was a rough first half, but but again, you
got a locker room and you're at one point, you
know you're you're winning the football game. Even if you're
tied after that half, you're you're you're probably looking at
it as a group and being like, we didn't play
our best football. We kind of handed them a lot
of things, and we're still leading or tied, right, and
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so you have to take advantage of that as well.
But uh, this game is a crazy game, and momentum
can be tough. It can be tough to reattain. And
when you get momentum, I think we talked about it
after the win last week, it's like you got to
arrive this momentum and really take advantage of it and
keep it going. Otherwise, once it turns the other way,
it's tough to get it back. So we got to
find a way to turn the tide and find the
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momentum and stick with it and be consistent, which is
the better on biggest problem as a team uh so
far this year just consistently putting on the stuff putting
on tape. Who we are as an offense, as a defense,
special teams, as a as a team as a whole.
So we got to find that that consistency.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You know, Justin had a number of interesting things to
say after the game, including a belief that he needed
to do more. He needed to help out the young
quarterback more, he needed to fight through some of the
physicality of the uh of of the Ravens defensive backs
and that it felt from Afar as if they were stretched.
(28:29):
There were some times where he was he was frustrated.
Now you know this better than most that a lot
of the coverage generally is going to be sent his way.
So can you speak to that a little bit. What
did you see from from JJ? I think he thought.
I certainly thought the pass right around the end zone
was catchable and one that he usually is going to catch.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I thought that was a pretty damn good throw actually
by by by your quarterback. JJ. McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
What did you see from him and are there times
where he, like, even with his our status, needs to
fight through some of that some of that frustration.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Yeah, I'll say this is certain. It's frustration is part
of this game and what makes it so great. You know,
it's hard to have success, to sustain success success, to
have it every quarter, every half, or every game. It's
it's hard to do. And as a competitor, as a perfectionist,
which a lot of us are, to be able to
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get to this point, it can be frustrating at times.
And not to say that that that means that you
should be frustrated, but it's going to happen, and it's
part of the game. So you have to as a
as a player, and he knows that you have to
find a way to handle that frustration and use it
to motivate you and to drive you to get back
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out there and and be at your best in the
next next play. But I will say that that guy
is a phenomenal leader and a lot of trust and
faith in that locker room of him as a leader,
not just as a star football players. So he is
one of the most accountable people I've ever been around.
He takes accountability and the next week he figures it
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out and he finds a way to be better. So
thankful for him to be part of our team. And
I know that quarterback room and the play card has
the most confidence in the world with that guy, so
excited to see what he does next week, you know
it has to be.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
It's the interesting One of the interesting I think elements
of this season is that this team, you could argue
on the basis of a lot of the moves that
were made in the offseason and coming off the fourteen
and three season last year, one wants still wants, obviously
to make another run or be in the middle of
the playoff race, et cetera. And yet you're trying to
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do it with a young QB. And you look at
any of these quarterbacks, they need time, right, I mean
most of them. There's a rare exception where a guy
walks in and is brilliant from the very first game,
but generally there's going to be up, there's going to
be downs. And that's part of what I guess all
of you guys have to deal with, is that if
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you can thread the needle of still trying to win games,
stay vital this season and yet still give JJ the
opportunity to be patient with him regarding, like we say,
some we saw in this game. There were some great
throws he made, especially early, and then there were some
where he was not very accurate. That's the challenge this year, right,
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because often, as you know, when young quarterbacks are thrown
in there, they're thrown into teams that aren't very good, right,
and there's no expectation. So to me, he's facing significant
expectations immediately, just because everybody's spoiled in the organization by
what the team did as recently as last year.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, for sure. And I think that's the way that
they built this team. They built it to be able
to handle that, right, to be able to put a
lot of veterans, a lot of skill guys, and great
offensive line, a phenomenal defense, a special teams unit that
we have a lot of faith and trust him that's
going to give us great field position. And so that's
why this team was built the way it was. And
so we all have to do our part to take
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pressure off a young guy who's battling his butt off
and as tough as it gets, he's a gamer, and
we have a lot of beliefs in faith with him.
But we all have to do our job and not
do more than our job, right. I think a lot
of times when things aren't going our way as an offense,
I think there's a tendency to want to do more
and to go maybe try to make a play and
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go out of just doing your job. And it always,
it always is happening, you know. I'm thirteen thirteenth year
in this league, and I've been there right that where
you just try to do too much and you kind
of go out of out of the confinement of the
of the playbook or or of the play that's called.
And I think we all need to just focus on
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just doing our job. And I think when you do
that and you give a young guy confidence, especially a
guy like JJ who who is, like I said, he's
a gamer and he's got a lot of confidence himself,
when you kind of just do the little things and
you get you make some plays for him, I think
his confidence just goes through the roof and really plays
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at a high level. So at the end of the day,
it's it's about the guys around him to be able
to do their job to really allow him to go
through some of those growing pains, but also to be
at his best.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
All right, So you had one very animated session where
I think in your case, it ended up being a
penalty that was declined that you did not believe was
a penalty at all. Tell me what happened on that play,
because on the on the TV, they ultimately went to
the you know, their officiating guy. I think it was Pereira,
wasn't it, I think in this case, and he said
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he believed it was the right call. Do you do
you feel any differently about it or any less animated
about it than you did during the game.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, it
didn't matter because we didn't replete the past, so I
probably shouldn't have been an animated as I was. But
I think it's just frustrating as a player when you
kind of when the rest kind of take a rule
that that and they kind of you don't necessarily understand
the football side of it. You know, it's kind of
like a technicality of the rule. But if you really
(34:22):
just understand football and you watch that play knowing the
fact that I didn't go in there and try to
kill the guy, which I which I very easily could
have you know, that was a design play. I was
supposed to go. If he's within a yard line of scrimmage,
I can go and pick him or or hit him
and to take him off his man player. And it's
(34:43):
a man play that that we have designed, right, And
so I felt like I did everything to the playbook
or to the rule book, and I didn't initiate contact.
I waited for him to come to me and and
stopped him right there. And I think it was a
little bit dramatic of you know, because he did and
see me that he kind of felt the way he
did and it probably looked worse than it was. But again,
(35:05):
I think the frustrating thing as a player is sometimes
as you these refs don't really understand football, and like
you're not if he knew, if he really understood football
on what that's like, I could have I could have
cleaned him out, and I didn't, So it shouldn't have
been a flag. But at the end of the day,
you can't get animated about that. You know, it is
what it is, and got to move on to the
(35:26):
next one. Did you talk I think the frustrations of
the game that kind of happened.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Gotcha sorry about that? Did you?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I Mean, I don't know if there's ever a chance
after a game if refs are off the field fast.
I know it's probably not at the top of the
list of things you're gonna do. But do you ever
have conversations after or have the opportunity to to you know,
out of the heat of the moment, to talk to
to refs where they say, all right, let's you know,
maybe we'll reconsider that, or maybe I misinterpreted that, or
(35:54):
maybe you got you had a point or whatever.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Does that ever happen with you?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Yeah? Yeah, I was able to go up to match
the game and just apologize for you know, being uh,
you know, yelling at him on the on the field
like that. But I just kind of just apologized and
and said, you know, I felt like I didn't, you know,
hit him with an excessive force. You know, I guess
the blindside block and the rule book is within a
(36:19):
yard line of scrimmage, you can you can pick that guy.
And so he kind of said, yeah, you know, I'm
gonna we're gonna get more clarification on that rule because
I don't know if we handle that perfect way, and
maybe and maybe they did. Maybe that's that's just how
they want it called and and that's fine. Uh. I
think it's just getting that clarification. But you know, at
the end of the day, I can't I can't lose
(36:39):
my cool on a ref like they're they're trying to
do their job as well. But again there's that kind
of that frustration of of you know, really understanding what
what the game looks like and when something is really
should be called and shouldn't. But those guys do a
great job of of, you know, being hard on themselves.
They get they get graded out, and they look at
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every single one of those players's rest as well. So
we'll see what they say as far as the clarification
on that.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
As you know, there is no time to wallow. You
got a game again Sunday, and it's a division game
and don't look now. But the Bears are sitting there
at six and three this season under their first year
coach Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
They've shown I think.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
They've had they have four final minute come from behind
drives to win games, so something different is going on there.
They've not played the greatest schedule early, but they've won
the game.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
So you guys.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Again, I mean, I don't know if you think of
it this way, but you're back under five hundred and
four and five, you're about to go on a couple
of games road trip afterwards, so it must wins are
maybe the wrong way to talk about it. But this
is a pretty damn big game on Sunday? Is it
not for your fortunes?
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Yeah? I mean I feel like in this league every
win is the must win, and it feels that way
on Mondays, right, And whether you win or lose, it
feels like, man, either you kind of get the sigh relief, okay,
we got the dub or or you have this like
ache in you that you just want to get back
out there and and you know it's it's tough to
lose games this league. But yeah, I say that. All
say it's like, yeah, it's a huge game. We're excited
(38:13):
to get back at home. We haven't played particularly well
at home and our record's not great, so we're excited
to get back in front of our fans back on
Sunday and just just show them what we really are about.
You know, we got to go and prove that we
can't just talk about, oh, we got this fixed, or
we got this covered, or if we could have just
done this better. We have to go out there and
I prove that. So just trying to get to Sunday,
(38:36):
you know, and prepare in a way that that helps
us to go and execute. I think when you have
games like you had on Sunday, it makes you realize
how important that preparation is and how walked in you
got to be in every single you know, rep, whether
it's a walk through, a jog through, or a live
full speed rep against the scout team, like how important
(38:56):
those reps are. And sometimes you get in the monotony
of the season and you kind of just go through
the motions and you're not trying to but that's just
kind of how it happens. And losses like that make
you realize, like, like you gotta really take advantage of
every single opportunity you have leading up for preparation because
then those things don't happen when you prepare the right way.
So that's what our focus is. And like I said,
(39:18):
are excited to get back at us Bank, but it's
it's definitely not going to be a walk in the park.
It's a really good football team who's only getting better,
especially since the first time we play them, they've gotten
a heck of a lot better under a new coaching staff.
So we'll be a great test for us and we'll
see what we're made of.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Thank you, Adam. We'll chat next week. Appreciate it all right,
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Adam.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Feelin is the Vikings wide receiver who joins us weekly
during the uneven as he even is willing to admit
and fading the obvious twenty twenty five football season for
your Minnesota Vikings brats, Shawn Brian Kfean text line is open,
as it has been throughout the program at six four
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talking points to get to. Do you think his voice
was a little raspy from yelling at you? It might
have been he was he was, he was animated. I
I guess I had not realized that he had apologized after,
which is probably a smart move, probably the judicious thing
to do, you know, and they maybe even you gain
you gain a little ground in that regard, and maybe
you get a little bit more information. I I don't
(40:22):
know the rule well enough to know, because part of
the debate was, well that's only supposed to. That's not
if he called when it comes from the side. It's
supposed to be called.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
When you're going in the the the other direction is
the way the TV people put it. So even they
wondered before Perera got in it, that's what they wondered,
because this was at the end of the line, so
this was kind of going sideways. One could say, Uh,
Perera was was very clear that there's nothing to think
about here.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I'm going to assume he's right. I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I do think I get the Land's point that it
probably looked worse than it was he went down. Yeah,
and in a lot of times anymore, that's what reffs
are responding to, right for sure, the look of oh,
this looks bad, This looks like a criminal act of
some sort that could have cleaned the moud.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
He said, yes, like that later, which is true. I
don't think he tried to do that. But it's interesting
though that you'd even have a play that calls for
that that would Yeah, that can be so interpreted. Yes,
where Pereira says it's cutting dry feel and saying, look,
that's not what it was, I assume the offensive staff
(41:32):
knows what they're trying to do there.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It's it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Well, as he pointed out, the moral of the story is,
and this kind of tells the story of the game.
It didn't matter because we didn't convert, right, Yeah, So
they they were more than willing to decline the penalty
because the Vikings didn't make the play when they needed
to make the play. That'll be part of the emphasis
when we come back with some Vikings talking points for sure,
(41:56):
and maybe we even get to one with Johnny Athletic
who's going to join at four oh two. Ben Lieber
is scheduled for four to forty seven, and thrifty Traveler
Guy Kyle Potter on the current state of domestic and
international air travel out of the United States of America
is five point thirty this evening. Even with signs that
there might be a breakthrough and the so called lockout
(42:21):
might end, then there's still I guess a lot of
bumps on the road for air travel for quite some time.
And he'll get into the percentages of a number of
flights that have been postponed or canceled and how long
that's going to go on, and the longer term ramifications
of it as well, and as I mentioned, we'll take
a look.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
There's some interesting.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Texts that have come in again from the Macobobos who
don't want to live in twenty twenty five reality. They
just don't they and I get it because they want
to root for their guy so much and they believe
this is going to be the guy, and they don't
want to listen to any sort of pushback or criticism
on this guy, especially when he's played as little as
(43:01):
he has. But I'm gonna warn them of something I
told them back in late August and September that they
obviously didn't want to believe, but that it remains I
think as true today as it was when we talked
about it back then.
Speaker 7 (43:16):
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Speaker 2 (43:21):
First in ten Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
He is.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Under center, is Cadence.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
May Fall start offense and Brady five five yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
It is first down.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
That's the third procedure of the third fall Star penalty
against the Moving Company today, first in fifteen.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
This game's about mistakes.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Paul join us again for another famous moments in a
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 4 (00:23):
Two minutes and twenty eight seconds past the hour, three
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Before the snap right, all start by the center. It's
a five guard penal leap.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It started down, Yes, three and a half hours, three
and a half hour tour.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Did I start too soon? All start?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Maybe I started? This is a little too early today?
Is that possible?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I thought of could I get him to do that?
This is like five times in a row. But then
I don't want you to lose your voice, so that
could be bad. We could start the show now, are
you sure?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I did three of them. That's enough.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
That's close enough. We'll hear more later. That's the beauty shadowing.
That's guardsy. The producer of the show. My name is
Dan Barrero, former Ringstaine Retch newspaper of the Twin Cities
and host of What We Like To affectionately refer to
occasionally as the afternoon ardvark on what is I guess
(01:23):
the last cold day.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We're going to have in a while?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Think we're back in the fifties the rest of this
week after a bit of a chill in the air
over the weekend here in the Twin cities of Minneapolis
and Saint Paul, My, oh my, last week we were
celebrating singing the Candyman song, reminding us of the just
(01:49):
the beautiful lyrics of that tune. Who can take a sunrise,
sprinkle it with dew, cover it with chocolate and a
miracle or two? The Candyman can it, mixes it with
love and makes the world taste good. The world tasted
the football world tasted so scrumptious a week ago?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sounded better a week ago, did it not? But we
come to.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Find out the Candyman has a cruel side, and we
saw the other end of it yesterday at the People
Stadium in downtown Minneapolis. We were reminded of the yin
of it. No that guess it'd be the yang of it.
The yen was last week. This is the yang that
(02:35):
reminds us of the startling contrasts in football emotions. For
your average sports room, in this case, your average Vikings fan,
it didn't go very well after a promising start. Maybe
that added to the cruelty for your favorite football team.
Twenty seven to nineteen ultimately was the final score, and
(02:59):
I guess it's fair to say I probably owe a
lot of the national pundits an apology. I'd mentioned on
the Sermons program that I thought people were making it
seem as if the Vikings winning this game at home
was going to be the upset of the century. I
had Blake Moore look nationally to follow up on my
(03:23):
own unofficial view of national predictions from the various big sites,
and I think, out of like I don't know, thirty
or forty predictors, we found literally one that picked the Vikings.
And I thought, I get it. The quarterbacks back for Baltimore.
(03:46):
They're good, or they have been good. There's high hopes
for them, but they they'd beaten the Bears and the Dolphins,
and I said, I just don't believe this would should
have to be the upset of the century. Well maybe
it would have been the upsod of the century in
the basis of what we saw. I don't exactly know,
because most of those pundits turned out to be one
(04:07):
hundred percent right. And I guess I'm I'm pretty sure
I had another zero to three week. My pick sensibility
has just been brutal, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Brutal, and.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I We've got a lot of good Vikings talking points
to get to today. Guards he's put together some other
sound that may be part of the occasion.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You heard some of it already.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We've got an outstanding array of guests today that will
which will include we think Adam Thieling at three thirty,
Johnny Athletic at four oh two, Nacho Lebra four forty seven,
and then our old friend from their thrifty traveler, Kyle Potter.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
By the offense number seventy five. There it is.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And so we are going to deviate a little. But
I mean, maybe he'll want to talk Vikings. I'm not sure,
but I've had a lot of people asking whether we're
going to have Kyle on soon regarding the degree of
chaos for the aviation industry right now. I know we're
allegedly on the verge of a breakthrough regarding the shutdown,
but I'm told that even if that does go through,
that there will still be a ripple effect for a
(05:20):
while in the aviation industry. And I know many of
you travel as well. So Kyle's going to join us.
It's scheduled to join us at five point thirty. I
think I've asked you this before, and I don't know
if you've ever settled it. Do we have any ping
(05:41):
pong tables that the players can use over the course
of a day, because if we do, I think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Time to take the ping pong tables out. Oh take
them out, take them out? Oh, maybe bring them in? No, no, no, no,
I'm assuming we have them. I'm assuming we have everything.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, I'm sure we got Papa shot baskets there. I'm
guessing every possible toy game that any you know program
could have, any the national FOOTBA League team would have,
We've got it there.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I think we need to rip them all out of
there right now. I don't think we've earned any of that.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
We're sitting here under We're two games behind the bears.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
He makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And now for the second week, seven, second time in
three weeks, we're facing a must win again.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We're back to must win, right. You can't lose to
the Bears.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
No, now loose the Bears at home, then you're two
games under five hundred, going on the road to what
is it next? Seattle in Green Bay? Green Bay, then
Seattle Bay first, then Seattle. Come on, what are we
talking about here? And I gotta be honest, I first
have I felt very good about my pick, not just
(07:02):
because of the way the Vikings came out early after.
You know, Baltimore looked Baltimore to me, the first half looked.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Utterly bored with being there. They did not look into it.
They looked like a team that was ready to be beaten.
Quite frankly, I didn't think Jackson looked dynamic. I didn't
think he looked that impressive. I don't think any about
the Ravens looked that good. But our problem was we
didn't build a lead we should have.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
We needed to be up in that game minimum ten
yep at the half, and what we end up being
up ten nine? Yeah, because we gave him a tree
late as well. That to me told the ball game
first half. I think the Ravens were ready to be beaten.
And the Ravens probably had more on the table than
we did given their record. You know that they have.
(07:50):
You can argue they can't lose any more games. But
they didn't look that interested, or they didn't look that committed,
or they didn't look that good. And I'm sure it
was a kind of well we haven't. I don't know
what Harbass said to his team at halftime, but he
could have done the cliched. Guys, we stunk up much
of that first half, but look at the scoreboard, we're
down one. We take care of business on this first drive,
(08:13):
and Koc helped to make sure that the Ravens did,
We're gonna be fine in this game.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Let's go and win the damn thing. They're gonna make
it that available to let's win it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And sure enough, second half, the Ravens took care of business.
They started running the ball better, they had just enough
good pass plays, they got help from us.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yep, we gave a couple of key areas and.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
They end up winning it. Would I say twenty seven nineteen? Yes,
we got the touchdown. Then we did the old we're
gonna go The chart says go for two, which I hate,
but we did and we did get the ball back right,
but ultimately did not have enough time enough opportunity to
do much of anything with it.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
So a.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
We talked about it all week. It's stating the obvious
that we were all you know, we were all bloated
out all that candy after the Lions game. But what
we knew was that if we didn't show some discipline
back off the chunkies for a couple of days, it
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really wasn't going to matter how good we felt eaten
all that candy on last Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday
in it, you know, sort of in the aftermath of
that kind of victory, It was all going to depend
on what we did with that opportunity. And I'll say again,
I don't think the Ravens looked unbeatable at key points
(09:44):
to that ball game, but we didn't ultimately even come
close to winning the thing.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So here we are back with I think one step
closer to the reality, the realization that we might just
have to be one of these cute little clubs that
surprises people one week to the good good and then
turns around and surprises people to the bat at home
where we're having difficulty winning.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Have we won any games at home this year?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We beat Cincinnati, Oh, that's right because of the nine
defensive touchdowns in the first half.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's it. But that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
We lost to Atlanta, we lost to Philly, and yesterday
we lost to the Ravens. Oh, that's not going to
get it done, is it. No, not with our road schedule,
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Speaker 2 (10:34):
We do we.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Know whether Falness hasn't has among his aliases that Peter
Popsicle is one of them. Is it possible that that
Falless has an alias called Peter Popsicle? Very possible because
Peter Popsicle claims he's in disbelief. The surging Wild win
two in a row, including a shutout last night. Yeah,
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and Dan starts the show talking about the last place
Vikings no famous moments enup kick gas.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Offense Minnesota three or four on third down, third and
eight from the Ravens thirty one, Hockinson in motion to
the right of McCarthy. Three receivers right, one left, snap
play stoppage.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Seawan Hocky Lee staff throws flags before the snap fall
start by the center. It's a five yard penalty, it's.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Third down play Brandellen is six star, make that his
fifth start, and there must be something that he's doing
with the football before the snap.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Join us again for another famous moments end up.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Kick gas Office.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Six five.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
One guy asks, why is the Bears game a must
win to accomplish what exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's a fair question.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Maybe implicit in the question, he's saying, why are you
pretending anything is at state? And and that's understandable when
you've meandered the way the Vikings have meandered this year.
I'm going under the assumption that the Vikings internally still
want to at least believe they have a chance to
make themselves make themselves vital in the playoff chase this year.
(12:45):
And if that's their intent, I think falling to when
then we would be what four and six would be
four and six heading to starting a two game road
trip that becomes fairly untenable. He may be right if
he was being sarcacic. I'm not here to tell you
that we're on You know, we're in a good position
to make any kind of a playoff run at this point.
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But given it's a division opponent, and given you've dropped
back under five hundred, and given the game is at home,
I just don't think you give yourself at that point
much margin for air. Now again, you could say, well
but what if we go on the road and win
too in a row, Dan, then things change. Then things
would probably change at least, But even that is like, well,
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then you're back to that's what's odd. Then you'd be
back to five hundred, right, And I don't think it's
the kind of year where nine and eight is going
to get you in.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I mean, right now, the Bears are in the final
playoff spot at six and three, and the Bears are
about to embark on a more difficult part of their schedule.
They've had both very soft schedule, but they have I mean,
at some point if you I keep denigrating them, but
if you keep finishing games the way they have, admittedly
against bad teams, but finding you know, comeback victories in
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pretty dramatic fashion, then you know you have to at
least get started.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're in the mix at the very least.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Even if I don't think anybody viewsed the Bears as
a serious team to make much of a playoff run.
One would say, we got a lot of good vikings
talking points, but I want to try to stay on
the clock, so I will save pretty much all of
those that Guardsy has has put together one of the
more interesting sidebars, and it is related to a talking point.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But well, well you know what, Let's go ahead and
play it real quick. Let's go ahead, Come.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
On, JJ, let's go second and fifteen from the twenty
five of the Ravens. Two receivers right, one left. McCarthy
out of the shotgun, four man rush. JJ steps up
in the pocket to the end complet. Justin Jefferson, the
intended receiver Andy was covered by a low heat Gilman.
That's six year safety from Notre Dame. Nice passed by
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McCarthy eighteen. He couldn't bring it in now it's third down. No,
it was a middle open. JJ tried to run the post.
That ball was really put right on the money. That's
what they actually passed. Actually went through the hands of
Justin Jefferson. That's one he should have come down with.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
It versus is right.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
The headline for that talking point was c c as in,
Chris Carter makes that catch. Ordinarily Justin Jefferson makes that catch.
But he didn't, and it's opened the door. It's an
interesting post mortem. And we'll talk about this with Johnny
Athletic because he made it really the point of his
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whole column that's available via the Athletic today or last
night whenever it dropped that there were some troubling aspects
to not JJ McConnell. Yeah, JJ McCarthy's performance for sure. Yeah,
but for JJ, with Justin Jefferson as well having to.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Do with.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
That. That's a catch he's got to make.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's not I wouldn't call the ball perfectly thrown like
Pete did, but it was.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Thrown well enough on a timing route that he's got
to make the catch. I think that's a catch that
I think even Jefferson agreed. He's he's got to help
his quarterback. Doesn't matter if he's a young quarterback or
an old quarterback, whoever his quarterback is, he's got to
make that play. The coverage wasn't horrible, but that's a
catch he's ordinarily going to make. The larger issue that's
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getting more national attention is the video that looks worse
on the interception right.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Where the one where he stumbled was that the one
there were two.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, there were two to him, but the third and
one as the one people are talking about the deep.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Point regarding Yeah, regarding his reaction, he didn't seem particularly
interested in pursuing becoming a defender at that point, which
is odd. I mean, the truth is we often see
offensive players pretend to try to tackle somebody. I don't
think he's the first to fall into that classification, but
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it's it didn't feel good, It didn't feel like competitor.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Guy didn't look good, didn't look like Jets.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
But the alter ego, to be honest, the yeah, because
everybody's got to have an alter ego.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We know that it was the player on the end zone.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
To me, that's where he really could have helped out
his his QB. I am not in the group because
there are a lot of people who are offended, like, well, you.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Know, Jefferson, you don't you have to do a better
job of getting the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well, they try to get him the ball, and there
are a number of inaccurate passes by McCarthy, and beyond that,
another receiver if another receiver is dominating to the degree
that Naylor was, and that's okay. The idea that you're
going to get that you should like lose your mind over.
But JJ's supposed to be the guy. There are stretches
in a game where it doesn't matter who's supposed to
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be the guy. It's the ball's getting somewhere, and in
Naylor's case, it got there a lot effectively. Unfortunately, the
accuracy from McCarthy was awful for most of the passes
to Justin Jefferson and a you to who's our other receiver,
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Jordan Arnadson that was not helpful either. So it was
that combination of things. Where were you on the interception reaction?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I just think it goes into the pot of I
didn't like his vibe all day. I didn't think he
had a very good vibe much of the day at all,
and that was concerning because he is not That might
be the only time I ever remember him seeming that down.
I don't even know if disinterested or disengaged, or people
were saying he's not into it. I just think he
was down because I do think when he breaks open,
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like on the one pass out to the right and
there's no one within six yards of him, and the
ball goes into the third row over his head.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I have to imagine that's frus trading.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
As much as he wants to be a team guy
and say it doesn't matter who my quarterback is. I've
caught a thousand yards with fifty different quarterbacks. I do
think there's probably a cumulative weight here that he hasn't
had the season he's wanted to have, and when easy
pitching catches like that don't happen, I just think it
messes with his body language.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
And one of them ended up being down by contact
anyway where he didn't respond correct. Yeah, I think it
was Jefferson. Yeah, so did Jefferson mention. I mean, we
have to factor that into the thing. Here's my bigger
problem with Justin yesterday was, you know, again, I get
I thought he got a pass interference call he didn't
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even deserve. Quite frankly, I thought the one he ended
up getting was very iffy. A TV didn't, but I did.
And he looked like to me, he was in that
mode where that's what he was constantly waiting for is
to get bailed out.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And you know, he even said it.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
He has to fight through the physicality a lot better
than he did, and there are times where he does
not fight through physicality very effectively. He just didn't seem
That's why if I'm a defensive back, that's what I'm doing.
I'm in his face as much as I can be
because I know what damage he otherwise can do. All right,
let's try to stay on schedule. We will talk to
another Vikings wide receiver, Adam Thielen. That's coming up next,
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Johnny Athletic, Ben Lieber, and Kyle Potter before we wrap
things up on what's gonna be a very busy program.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Now, famous moments, spin up a gas offense.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Straight, I have behind McCarthy, c J. Hammon in front
of Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But fall start by the offense number seventy five, five
yard penalty, second.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Down, two fists of the moving company with false starts
first and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Join us again with another famous.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Moment, spin up a gas offense.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
It's a very cool game, the game of professional football.
A week ago, you were chatting with the next guest
about a big victory on the road against the Lions. Today, unfortunately,
we got to do the post mortem on a disappointing
loss at home twenty seven to nineteen to the Baltimore Ravens.
Adam Thielen joins us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline,
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as he does every week. Thanks again for the time, sir.
Where do we begin? I guess eight fallse starts has.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Got to be.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That must have been a big topic of or will
be I assume a big topic of conversation internally, because
I know you guys break everything down. Do you have
any working theories on what might have precipitated that extraordinary
number for the home team? You know, obviously in this
case your club being the home team.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
No, we we definitely obviously it was a big topic
today in the offensive meeting, just kind of going over
the game and and really you really look at that
game and a lot of those penalties came in short yardage,
you know, after an explosive run or maybe a first
and ten, after after a earn first down like such
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momentum kind of areas that those happened and really put
us behind the sticks to start that next play where
where it's it's you kind of look at those players like, man,
what if, right, what if? What if we wouldn't have
had those false starts, what would have those drives look
like and what would this game look like? But at
the end of the day, it's something you got to fix,
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you got to clean up, and you got to figure
out what was going on. I felt like our leadership
did a great job of kind of addressing it, talking
about it, and then kind of putting in action steps
of Okay, there there's a lot of different reasons on
each one of those. They kind of had their own
story of why this or that happened. But let's let's
talk about what it looks like to be a clean
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football team, and let's kind of go back to the
basis of what that looks like. Communication, understanding the plan,
really just being prepared and ready. There's so many factors
that lead into those pre snap penalties that it's not
just oh shoot, I didn't know the snap count. You know,
there's there's a lot going on. So yeah, I think
it was good to just be able to address that,
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talk about it, and move forward.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So, you know, the obviously wiley quarterbacks can use inflection
cadence the attempt. The hope is you end up catching
the other team, right, the road team certainly jumping and
then you get at very least five yards and you
might even get a free play as well. Is there
such a thing as the case because this is this
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is a quarterback who hasn't played as much that the
in the in the way that QB emphasizes the hut
or whatever, the cadence that that can be confusing because
we saw a lot of people on your offense ordinarily
don't jump that we're all kind of jumping. Can that
be part of it is understanding exactly the cadence that's
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coming or misunderstanding the cadence, the emphasis that's coming from
the QB, from your own QB.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah, I think there's just so many factors, you know,
I think I think, yeah, definitely that that I absolutely
can be the case. I think there's also you know,
sometimes they give us a look that may be an
unscouted look, and and the and the quarterbacks got to
kind of hold the can or the kill to the
next play a little bit longer. When when those those guys,
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the big guys are in their stances for a long
period of time, it makes it tough on them. So
I think, uh, there's there's really no one particular area
to blame. I think it's just, you know, sometimes it's
just focus. Right. Sometimes it's just you're tired, You're you're
thinking about maybe two plays in your head. There's a
lot going on. Uh, you just had a big play,
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so there's momentum, there's there's a little bit of crowd noise,
there's there's so many factors that lead into it, and
at the end of the day, you got to work
on all of them, right. I think I think coach
did a great job, and I'm not gonna get in
the exact details, but he kind of went over like
five different steps of like, okay, yes, like could the
quarterback do a better job of being quicker with the
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cans and the kills and and those things? Yeah, for sure.
Can we do a better job of focusing and understanding
the plan and understanding when we're gonna can versus different
different looks. You know, there's kind of a a five
six steps that it's going to take to really clean
that up. And sometimes it's just it's just somebody, you know, again,
being tired and not focused on the snap count and
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and you have a brain part. You know, that happens too,
but unfortunately it happened in a lot of different cases,
by a lot of different groups, so that can't happen.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I viewed, I want I'm curious to get your opinion
on this. I thought the game, from your guys perspective,
was lost in the first half. I thought, obviously the
first drive was terrific. After three and out for them,
they to me, didn't look really I didn't think Lamar
looked particularly dynamic through the early part of the game.
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Their run game that I thought your defense was doing
a pretty good job. And yet I look up at
the scoreboard after that late gift and at halftime it's
ten to nine.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You're still ahead, but it's one.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It felt to me like, you know, this game goes
you sort of have to get it going, take advantage
when a game is going your way. And I thought,
you know, I felt, on the basis of what i'd seen,
you guys should have been up ten at the half.
And who knows what happens at that point because there's
still another half to play, But it felt like you
should have been further ahead by halftime.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
What did you see? What did you think?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah? I feel like that's what makes games like that
even more frustrating. On Monday, made you feel like there's
so many opportunities. Our defense played absolutely fantastic and really
give us a lot of great opportunities. And when they're
playing that good against a really good offense and a
and an MVP quarterback in the past, you you gotta
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take advantage of it. And I feel I understand where
you're coming from where you kind of feel like, man,
that was a rough first half, but but again, you
got a locker room and you're at one point, you
know you're you're winning the football game. Even if you're
tied after that half, you're you're you're probably looking at
it as a group and being like, we didn't play
our best football. We kind of handed them a lot
of things, and we're still leading or tied, right, and
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so you have to take advantage of that as well.
But uh, this game is a crazy game, and momentum
can be tough. It can be tough to reattain. And
when you get momentum, I think we talked about it
after the win last week, it's like you got to
arrive this momentum and really take advantage of it and
keep it going. Otherwise, once it turns the other way,
it's tough to get it back. So we got to
find a way to turn the tide and find the
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momentum and stick with it and be consistent, which is
the better on biggest problem as a team uh so
far this year just consistently putting on the stuff putting
on tape. Who we are as an offense, as a defense,
special teams, as a as a team as a whole.
So we got to find that that consistency.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You know, Justin had a number of interesting things to
say after the game, including a belief that he needed
to do more. He needed to help out the young
quarterback more, he needed to fight through some of the
physicality of the uh of of the Ravens defensive backs
and that it felt from Afar as if they were stretched.
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There were some times where he was he was frustrated.
Now you know this better than most that a lot
of the coverage generally is going to be sent his way.
So can you speak to that a little bit. What
did you see from from JJ? I think he thought.
I certainly thought the pass right around the end zone
was catchable and one that he usually is going to catch.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I thought that was a pretty damn good throw actually
by by by your quarterback. JJ. McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
What did you see from him and are there times
where he, like, even with his our status, needs to
fight through some of that some of that frustration.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Yeah, I'll say this is certain. It's frustration is part
of this game and what makes it so great. You know,
it's hard to have success, to sustain success success, to
have it every quarter, every half, or every game. It's
it's hard to do. And as a competitor, as a perfectionist,
which a lot of us are, to be able to
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get to this point, it can be frustrating at times.
And not to say that that that means that you
should be frustrated, but it's going to happen, and it's
part of the game. So you have to as a
as a player, and he knows that you have to
find a way to handle that frustration and use it
to motivate you and to drive you to get back
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out there and and be at your best in the
next next play. But I will say that that guy
is a phenomenal leader and a lot of trust and
faith in that locker room of him as a leader,
not just as a star football players. So he is
one of the most accountable people I've ever been around.
He takes accountability and the next week he figures it
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out and he finds a way to be better. So
thankful for him to be part of our team. And
I know that quarterback room and the play card has
the most confidence in the world with that guy, so
excited to see what he does next week, you know
it has to be.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
It's the interesting One of the interesting I think elements
of this season is that this team, you could argue
on the basis of a lot of the moves that
were made in the offseason and coming off the fourteen
and three season last year, one wants still wants, obviously
to make another run or be in the middle of
the playoff race, et cetera. And yet you're trying to
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do it with a young QB. And you look at
any of these quarterbacks, they need time, right, I mean
most of them. There's a rare exception where a guy
walks in and is brilliant from the very first game,
but generally there's going to be up, there's going to
be downs. And that's part of what I guess all
of you guys have to deal with, is that if
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you can thread the needle of still trying to win games,
stay vital this season and yet still give JJ the
opportunity to be patient with him regarding, like we say,
some we saw in this game. There were some great
throws he made, especially early, and then there were some
where he was not very accurate. That's the challenge this year, right,
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because often, as you know, when young quarterbacks are thrown
in there, they're thrown into teams that aren't very good, right,
and there's no expectation. So to me, he's facing significant
expectations immediately, just because everybody's spoiled in the organization by
what the team did as recently as last year.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, for sure. And I think that's the way that
they built this team. They built it to be able
to handle that, right, to be able to put a
lot of veterans, a lot of skill guys, and great
offensive line, a phenomenal defense, a special teams unit that
we have a lot of faith and trust him that's
going to give us great field position. And so that's
why this team was built the way it was. And
so we all have to do our part to take
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pressure off a young guy who's battling his butt off
and as tough as it gets, he's a gamer, and
we have a lot of beliefs in faith with him.
But we all have to do our job and not
do more than our job, right. I think a lot
of times when things aren't going our way as an offense,
I think there's a tendency to want to do more
and to go maybe try to make a play and
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go out of just doing your job. And it always,
it always is happening, you know. I'm thirteen thirteenth year
in this league, and I've been there right that where
you just try to do too much and you kind
of go out of out of the confinement of the
of the playbook or or of the play that's called.
And I think we all need to just focus on
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just doing our job. And I think when you do
that and you give a young guy confidence, especially a
guy like JJ who who is, like I said, he's
a gamer and he's got a lot of confidence himself,
when you kind of just do the little things and
you get you make some plays for him, I think
his confidence just goes through the roof and really plays
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at a high level. So at the end of the day,
it's it's about the guys around him to be able
to do their job to really allow him to go
through some of those growing pains, but also to be
at his best.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
All right, So you had one very animated session where
I think in your case, it ended up being a
penalty that was declined that you did not believe was
a penalty at all. Tell me what happened on that play,
because on the on the TV, they ultimately went to
the you know, their officiating guy. I think it was Pereira,
wasn't it, I think in this case, and he said
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he believed it was the right call. Do you do
you feel any differently about it or any less animated
about it than you did during the game.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, it
didn't matter because we didn't replete the past, so I
probably shouldn't have been an animated as I was. But
I think it's just frustrating as a player when you
kind of when the rest kind of take a rule
that that and they kind of you don't necessarily understand
the football side of it. You know, it's kind of
like a technicality of the rule. But if you really
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just understand football and you watch that play knowing the
fact that I didn't go in there and try to
kill the guy, which I which I very easily could
have you know, that was a design play. I was
supposed to go. If he's within a yard line of scrimmage,
I can go and pick him or or hit him
and to take him off his man player. And it's
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a man play that that we have designed, right, And
so I felt like I did everything to the playbook
or to the rule book, and I didn't initiate contact.
I waited for him to come to me and and
stopped him right there. And I think it was a
little bit dramatic of you know, because he did and
see me that he kind of felt the way he
did and it probably looked worse than it was. But again,
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I think the frustrating thing as a player is sometimes
as you these refs don't really understand football, and like
you're not if he knew, if he really understood football
on what that's like, I could have I could have
cleaned him out, and I didn't, So it shouldn't have
been a flag. But at the end of the day,
you can't get animated about that. You know, it is
what it is, and got to move on to the
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next one. Did you talk I think the frustrations of
the game that kind of happened.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Gotcha sorry about that? Did you?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I Mean, I don't know if there's ever a chance
after a game if refs are off the field fast.
I know it's probably not at the top of the
list of things you're gonna do. But do you ever
have conversations after or have the opportunity to to you know,
out of the heat of the moment, to talk to
to refs where they say, all right, let's you know,
maybe we'll reconsider that, or maybe I misinterpreted that, or
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maybe you got you had a point or whatever.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Does that ever happen with you?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Yeah? Yeah, I was able to go up to match
the game and just apologize for you know, being uh,
you know, yelling at him on the on the field
like that. But I just kind of just apologized and
and said, you know, I felt like I didn't, you know,
hit him with an excessive force. You know, I guess
the blindside block and the rule book is within a
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yard line of scrimmage, you can you can pick that guy.
And so he kind of said, yeah, you know, I'm
gonna we're gonna get more clarification on that rule because
I don't know if we handle that perfect way, and
maybe and maybe they did. Maybe that's that's just how
they want it called and and that's fine. Uh. I
think it's just getting that clarification. But you know, at
the end of the day, I can't I can't lose
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my cool on a ref like they're they're trying to
do their job as well. But again there's that kind
of that frustration of of you know, really understanding what
what the game looks like and when something is really
should be called and shouldn't. But those guys do a
great job of of, you know, being hard on themselves.
They get they get graded out, and they look at
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every single one of those players's rest as well. So
we'll see what they say as far as the clarification
on that.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
As you know, there is no time to wallow. You
got a game again Sunday, and it's a division game
and don't look now. But the Bears are sitting there
at six and three this season under their first year
coach Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
They've shown I think.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
They've had they have four final minute come from behind
drives to win games, so something different is going on there.
They've not played the greatest schedule early, but they've won
the game.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
So you guys.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Again, I mean, I don't know if you think of
it this way, but you're back under five hundred and
four and five, you're about to go on a couple
of games road trip afterwards, so it must wins are
maybe the wrong way to talk about it. But this
is a pretty damn big game on Sunday? Is it
not for your fortunes?
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Yeah? I mean I feel like in this league every
win is the must win, and it feels that way
on Mondays, right, And whether you win or lose, it
feels like, man, either you kind of get the sigh relief, okay,
we got the dub or or you have this like
ache in you that you just want to get back
out there and and you know it's it's tough to
lose games this league. But yeah, I say that. All
say it's like, yeah, it's a huge game. We're excited
(38:13):
to get back at home. We haven't played particularly well
at home and our record's not great, so we're excited
to get back in front of our fans back on
Sunday and just just show them what we really are about.
You know, we got to go and prove that we
can't just talk about, oh, we got this fixed, or
we got this covered, or if we could have just
done this better. We have to go out there and
I prove that. So just trying to get to Sunday,
(38:36):
you know, and prepare in a way that that helps
us to go and execute. I think when you have
games like you had on Sunday, it makes you realize
how important that preparation is and how walked in you
got to be in every single you know, rep, whether
it's a walk through, a jog through, or a live
full speed rep against the scout team, like how important
(38:56):
those reps are. And sometimes you get in the monotony
of the season and you kind of just go through
the motions and you're not trying to but that's just
kind of how it happens. And losses like that make
you realize, like, like you gotta really take advantage of
every single opportunity you have leading up for preparation because
then those things don't happen when you prepare the right way.
So that's what our focus is. And like I said,
(39:18):
are excited to get back at us Bank, but it's
it's definitely not going to be a walk in the park.
It's a really good football team who's only getting better,
especially since the first time we play them, they've gotten
a heck of a lot better under a new coaching staff.
So we'll be a great test for us and we'll
see what we're made of.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Thank you, Adam. We'll chat next week. Appreciate it all right,
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Adam.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Feelin is the Vikings wide receiver who joins us weekly
during the uneven as he even is willing to admit
and fading the obvious twenty twenty five football season for
your Minnesota Vikings brats, Shawn Brian Kfean text line is open,
as it has been throughout the program at six four
six eighty six. We've got a lot of good Vikings
(40:00):
talking points to get to. Do you think his voice
was a little raspy from yelling at you? It might
have been he was he was, he was animated. I
I guess I had not realized that he had apologized after,
which is probably a smart move, probably the judicious thing
to do, you know, and they maybe even you gain
you gain a little ground in that regard, and maybe
you get a little bit more information. I I don't
(40:22):
know the rule well enough to know, because part of
the debate was, well that's only supposed to. That's not
if he called when it comes from the side. It's
supposed to be called.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
When you're going in the the the other direction is
the way the TV people put it. So even they
wondered before Perera got in it, that's what they wondered,
because this was at the end of the line, so
this was kind of going sideways. One could say, Uh,
Perera was was very clear that there's nothing to think
about here.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I'm going to assume he's right. I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I do think I get the Land's point that it
probably looked worse than it was he went down. Yeah,
and in a lot of times anymore, that's what reffs
are responding to, right for sure, the look of oh,
this looks bad, This looks like a criminal act of
some sort that could have cleaned the moud.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
He said, yes, like that later, which is true. I
don't think he tried to do that. But it's interesting
though that you'd even have a play that calls for
that that would Yeah, that can be so interpreted. Yes,
where Pereira says it's cutting dry feel and saying, look,
that's not what it was, I assume the offensive staff
(41:32):
knows what they're trying to do there.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It's it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Well, as he pointed out, the moral of the story is,
and this kind of tells the story of the game.
It didn't matter because we didn't convert, right, Yeah, So
they they were more than willing to decline the penalty
because the Vikings didn't make the play when they needed
to make the play. That'll be part of the emphasis
when we come back with some Vikings talking points for sure,
(41:56):
and maybe we even get to one with Johnny Athletic
who's going to join at four oh two. Ben Lieber
is scheduled for four to forty seven, and thrifty Traveler
Guy Kyle Potter on the current state of domestic and
international air travel out of the United States of America
is five point thirty this evening. Even with signs that
there might be a breakthrough and the so called lockout
(42:21):
might end, then there's still I guess a lot of
bumps on the road for air travel for quite some time.
And he'll get into the percentages of a number of
flights that have been postponed or canceled and how long
that's going to go on, and the longer term ramifications
of it as well, and as I mentioned, we'll take
a look.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
There's some interesting.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Texts that have come in again from the Macobobos who
don't want to live in twenty twenty five reality. They
just don't they and I get it because they want
to root for their guy so much and they believe
this is going to be the guy, and they don't
want to listen to any sort of pushback or criticism
on this guy, especially when he's played as little as
(43:01):
he has. But I'm gonna warn them of something I
told them back in late August and September that they
obviously didn't want to believe, but that it remains I
think as true today as it was when we talked
about it back then.
Speaker 7 (43:16):
No Famous moments en Ka gas offense.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
First in ten Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
He is.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Under center, is Cadence.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
May Fall start offense and Brady five five yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
It is first down.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
That's the third procedure of the third fall Star penalty
against the Moving Company today, first in fifteen.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
This game's about mistakes.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Paul join us again for another famous moments in a
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