December 21, 2025 • 51 mins
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Sixteen thirteen, the Final MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. The
Vikings have now won three in a row. They improved
a seven and eight in the season as they beat
the lowly.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I mean just the putrid and awful.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You watch the game, you listen to the game on
the home for Vikings Football the Fan. How bad are
those giants? Your Vikings find their way to a victory.
A bunch of things to get into. The quarter back
misses the entire second half. JJ McCarthy staying on the
field becoming a massive talker with him just as much
as it is about him developing and taking steps in
his career on the field. We're gonna get to whether
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Speaker 3 (01:25):
We'll get to all that.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But Ben Lieber back in Met Life, he had the
opportunity to chat with Justin Jefferson, who today is six
catches eighty five yards.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
It's been a while since we've seen.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Number eighteen impacting games the way we know he can
and the way we've become very accustomed to six grabs
eighty five yards for him. Feels like what a banner
day for him. Right Well, he was chatting with Ben Leeber.
Let's listen, I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Standing here with the very happy and celebratory Justin Jefferson
with the big OL's smile. You knew what you knew
exactly how many stats and yards you had this time?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Didn't for sure?
Speaker 6 (02:00):
You know what a couple of plays, a couple of
big opportunities on third down, Uh, you know, me making
some some big plays.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
And then of course you know, not really having that.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Uh, you know, statistics for the past couple of weeks.
You know, I definitely was locked in today.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
All right, I'm gonna put you on the spot here.
You had two incredible catches on the sidelines. You gotta
choose one. Which one was your favorite?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, for sure, I'm gonna say the second one. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (02:29):
Yeah, Naylor's answering for you.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, great ball.
Speaker 9 (02:32):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Just the late hands uh and then toe tapping on
the sideline on on.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
That big third down.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
That's that's very big for our offense to continue those
dribs and continue that momentum. Uh, and of course to
give Max to that confidence to continue to throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Uh. So yeah, that that one was definitely one of
my favorite ones.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
What did he say to you in the in the
huddle after that?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Great catch? Great catch?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
But I always say, you know, I always practice those
type of catches always, you know, just try to overdo
myself in those type of situations. So for him to
give me that opportunity, for Ko to call that play
knowing that I'm most likely going to get that ball,
I mean, it's just time and time again. We just
got to continue to figure it out and continue to
connect with each other.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Did you guys expect that much pressure early in the
game any kind of throughout. They didn't seem to be
a heavy blitzing team, but really from the first play
on they were there bringing some pressure.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Yeah, I would say, just you know, for further quarterbacks
to not hold onto the ball too long and not
us taking the top off of their defense. So I
mean them just trying to get us to quick throw
the ball and getting it in and out of the
quarterbacks hands and for us to just go make those plays.
So those screens and the stuff in the first half,
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those came from the blitz and us allowing to just
man on and just you know, go attack and go
get that first down.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It seemed like this game, more so than others, you're
involved in a lot more the quick underneath stuff, the
quick crossing routes, especially some of the yak yards that
you had.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Was that just a product of what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Was that kind of built in the game plan and
kind of gets you involved underneath more often?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
A little both.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I mean, just with how our defenses have been playing
me for the past two years.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
They're really not allowing me to go deep.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
They're not really allowing me to you know, take the
top off and to have those one hundred and fifty
yard games. So I mean, we got to get the
ball in my hand some type of way. So just
having those screens, having those quick plays to get me
the ball and let me just go work and get
those yards after the catch.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, I'm always curious when you're running some of
those plays and you're doing the yards after catch and
sometimes on the undesigned screenplays, are you aware of some
of the blocks are taking place out in front of you?
Or is this one of those things that you just
you just see color and you just try to get past.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Them a little mixture of both.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I'm kind of aware of the leverages and you know
where my guys are going to be at for me
to really take the you know, take the lanes. But
it's really you know, sea color get away from me.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
They keep going. So it's just I mean, it's just
all about going in at tacking.
Speaker 10 (05:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
My mindset was just going that day and attacking every
play that I have, each opportunity that I have, I
got to make the most of them.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, I gotta tell you from just a football standpoint,
I mean, watching you guys run the screenplays, especially today,
it's pretty special.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Because it takes everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
It takes timing, it takes rhythm, and it gets guys
a hat on the hat.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
And you know, I think I don't think.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
People really appreciate just like the team effort it takes
to have a successful screen.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
You know, a screen that doesn't just happen from one
person and making everybody missing go and score. It comes
from the O line getting getting out of their stance
and getting out to that to that why side. The
block for the tight ends the receivers to a block
as well. So uh, and then we always take an
initiative to block in a run game as well. So
we're always trying to fight for one another. We're always
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trying to spring open that play, uh, that big play
that we need for the momentum, for the for the
confidence of everybody else on that offense. So I'm just
glad that I was able to get the ball a
little bit, get those conversions on third down, uh, and
for the for the office to keep moving.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
One for me here is like I know it was
a little windy out there.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He was cool.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
I wouldn't make I wouldn't necessarily say cold.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
But you guys, he had some difficulty coming down with
some of those balls out there early on. You know,
was there something to that was the weather part of
that at all?
Speaker 10 (06:13):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
No, I wouldn't say, uh, the weather was a problem.
It's just, uh, it's just how it happens, not really
you know, a specific thing. Of course, we gotta you know,
be more focused and be more and locked in, uh
to you know, catching those balls and uh to be
on the same page with the quarterback.
Speaker 10 (06:30):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
But you know we're we're never gonna say any excuses
from us catching the ball.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
We got to catch the ball at the end of
the day.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Okay, I promise you this is the last one I
was gonna let's I do want to touch on on Brosemer.
I mean, it's a pretty tough spot for any backup
quarterback to come in, especially like that. You know, he continues,
at least from us on the outside looking in, to
just be calm and collected.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Is that how he feels when he's in the huddles?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Well, I definitely agree. You know, you don't feel that
nervous vibe. You don't feel like he's uh too energetic
or too hyped.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Up for that moment.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
He's just cool, calm and collected, going in there doing
his job, leading in the offense to where we need
to go. But I mean, we always have confidence in
Max for confidence and JJ confidence and anybody to go
in there, go out there and do what we need
to do, just because of the preparation that we have
throughout the week, and of course the playmakers that we
have on the offensive side of the ball. So we
always confident in just going out there and playing our ball.
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But this is the type of ball we should have
been playing for the whole entire season. So I'm just
glad that we're having that finished mindset rather than just
laying our heads all planning our vacations in the off
season and just going about our business.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
So I'm just happy that I'm with this group of guys.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
Yeah, great job, man, great game.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
All right, it's back to you.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It's Ben Leber with Justin Jefferson again. Six catches eighty
five yards as part of the victory effort this afternoon,
sixteen thirteen to the final.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
We're gonna pause and come back, Drew CJ. Hal Monty.
Everybody on hold from the phone line perspective. I got
talked backs, locked and loaded. Ron Johnson's going to enter
the freight and I'm actually going to talk to him
about the passing game today. Justin Jefferson and the QB
where it was a hand injury. We heard it from
the coach. Not exactly sure how severe it is, but
those are going to be at least a couple of
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the talkers as we push on.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
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Speaker 2 (08:17):
Vikings now seven and eight, sixteen to thirteen victorious over
the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
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Speaker 11 (08:25):
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Speaker 3 (08:34):
The fan.
Speaker 12 (08:41):
Guys, I have a fear that J. J.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
McCarthy might be an injury pro quarter of that.
Speaker 10 (08:48):
Can you discuss that?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Tell us what you.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Think we will?
Speaker 13 (08:57):
Thank God, we have another loss season for the min
Soda Vikings. We can't even evaluate our quarterback long enough
to know if he can make it in the NFL.
We can't stand on the field more than three games
at a time. My buddy cou said he would lead
the league interceptions, but we won't even know if that's
possible or not. Host coaching administration has a bad year
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every other year and flops every other year unless we
have a week schedule.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
What up?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Coups his buddy's name said? He said said JJ McCarthy
would lead the league in interceptions. That's what Coup said.
Welcome back to Vikings fan line. You just heard a
couple of talkbacks free iHeartRadio app. Whether you're at home,
whether you're in the club, like you heard there, we'll
take them thirty seconds hit that microphone. Welcome back to
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Vikings fan line, and we will indeed talk about JJ
McCarthy who left at halftime with a hand injury.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
To the true extent of it, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
The head coach, Kevin O'Connell went addressing the media just
minutes ago, noted that the X rays were negative, so
it's probably a positive sign. He'd be evaluated back in Minnesota,
I believe tomorrow, and then we're gonna sweat that all
week into a Christmas Kiddies game at US Bank Stadium.
Ron Johnson is with me, Nordo and Ron, you know
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the good times.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
You heard that interview with Justin.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Jefferson got the six catches today. He did set a
record today most catches for an NFL player through their
first six seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
He passed Jarvis Landry.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You dig that if operation one sixty eight was a thing,
as in the number of yards it took to get
him to a thousand yards, we just chopped that in
half eighty five today. I think that Mancato mass is
about eighty three yards would be still required for him
to get to the century mark. Also twenty something yards,
I believe, from passing Randy Moss for the most receiving
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yards in six seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So some cool things there.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Kid can't stay on the field, as in JJ McCarthy,
and there was some speculation it sounded like during Ko's
presser that it even happened before the rushing touchdown correct
in which he hurt his hand, and that this is
this is the concern that.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
The knee a year ago.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
We see a lot of knees occurring in the NFL
every single year. But then there's the ankle, then there's
a concussion. Now it's the hand. Very troublesome in terms
of reps in rhythm for a kid that really really
needs every freaking snap he can get on the field.
Speaker 14 (11:23):
Yeah, and hands are tough when you're a quarterback specifically,
you know, quarterbacks, receiver.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There's some position. Yeah, I mean if it was his
left hand he's got to throw the ball, he'd be fine.
You know, his left hand he can get through. I
mean even his throw hand. Though remember earlier he doesn't
Herbert have like a broken left hand.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Uh. Possibly, I don't even know that.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I know McCarthy.
Speaker 14 (11:39):
Remember you had the patch for the laceration early in
the season, so he's had some stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But here's the thing, and I did tweet out the video.
Speaker 14 (11:46):
It looks like he when he threw on the follow
that he hit his hand on I think ninety five's helmet.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
So it did actually happen. It is true. Brian O'Neill
did not get the quarterback hurt.
Speaker 14 (11:56):
For everybody thinking that Brian O'Neill also, it was a
turn for so Brian O'Neill was taking the most dangerous
knowing they were going with a backside screen. He is
supposed to turn the last guy on the end loose,
which means your quarterback has to throw the ball into
the dirt. It's a screen. The guy jumped, he's in
your lane. You just throw it. You don't pull down
the screen because you have no backside protection. Because they
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turned the last guy free. By all accounts, the quarterback
would know that's on.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
He's probably running free, correct, because it has to get
rid of the freaking ball.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You pre count the number of guys.
Speaker 14 (12:26):
Now, now the guy dropped that, O'Neill thought he was
gonna have to block. So should he have turned out
to Burns. Yeah, but Burns he didn't have time.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
He wasn't gonna get to it. He wasn't going to
get to him in time.
Speaker 14 (12:36):
So it's like you have to know as a quarterback,
I count the number of guys at the line of scrimmage.
I know this guy number zero is unblocked. If the
screen's not there, I'm eli manning the bit. I'm throwing
it and I'm turning and curling up like a baby
and laying on the ground, like just throw it into
the ground underneath the feet of the guy jumping in
the air, and the rest are going to let it
go because they're going to say, oh, yeah, you had
a screen out there called So that's and again, even
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if he doesn't get hit by Burns, you got linemen
down the field. You can't do anything else right, you
can't throw the ball. So again, that's on him. That's
not on the line, that's not on the you know,
that's that's on him one hundred percent. But again that's
just the learning curve of a young quarterback who hasn't
gotten that many snaps. Aside from that, you know, you
were talking about the number of injuries.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, that's troublesome too.
Speaker 14 (13:20):
You know the touchdown, I thought I was like, oh lord,
he might have got hurt there. So it's it's just
one of this is how he's going to play, and
you got to see if this is what is worth
next year.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Drew in Roseville, let's hit the phone lines. Drew, Welcome
to Vikings fan line.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 15 (13:36):
I just wanted to say, you know, with all the
two drops from Addison and Naylor, McCarthy stat line today
is eleven or fourteen, one hundred and thirty five yards
two touchdowns with the seventy eight percent completion percentage. I
guess my fear is that McCarthy's turning into our version
of Royce Lewis and Byron Buxton just can't stay healthy,
but currently does not lack the athleticism or the arm strength.
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I think he's passed the test and hopefully he's back
out there for Detroit.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Appreciate it, guys, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I'm actually glad that we started with Drew and that
particular talker, and then then we'll pause and then re
rejump the fanlight the phone lines. But he's accurate prior
to the hand injury, I mean, and that's the that's
the frustrating, you know, putting asterisks on things and caveats
and his sides and yeah, butts, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Before that happened, he was well on his way.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It appeared to offering a similar, if not even improved
performance to what we saw in Dallas and Washington prior
to that. Jordan Adison has to take a hard look
in the mirror after that drop in the end zone.
That's just ridiculous and unacceptable. The interest free the interception
that he did throw. Naylor's got to catch that, yeah,
and that's behind him a little bit though, so we have.
Speaker 14 (14:46):
To hit him in the hands the ball, make the
catch behind him justin Jefferson's now there's nurse. Third down
play was behind him. So there's still some little things here.
And there that he's got to get the ball out.
That the outroute to Justin Jefferson. He threw a one
ball versus two ball. Justin Jefferson's wide open. You don't
need to zing it out route, like I get it.
You don't want a guy to break on that and
pick six it. But you got to see the corner.
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The cornerback was seven yards off. Just just get it
out there early so you're not waiting to like he's
waiting to throw the ball, vers throwing it on time
and kind of floating it out there. You know the
stuff we talked about Jared Golf where they said, oh,
he doesn't have a strong arm, but he gets the
ball out on time. He doesn't have to have a
strong arm, correct And that's where JJ has to learn
that part of the game.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I just I was.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I was impressed with his decision, making his choice to run.
He got an eight or a nine yard scramble in
the game, not without its worse though you mentioned those instances.
How about the pick six that thankfully was called back
because if Duel Carter was off side, I mean, they're
just preposter and it was thrown too high and it's
off the fingertips, you're right into the hand.
Speaker 14 (15:44):
I mean, Naylor's got to get a hops though, jumping. No,
I'm joking, I'm joking. I'm not gonna put that.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
No, man.
Speaker 14 (15:49):
Somebody tweeted a great point, though, when aren't we going
to start giving interceptions to receivers? Like, at what point
are we going to start taking them away from quarterbacks
if it touches.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
His hand, Yeah, and he should have called it's.
Speaker 14 (16:00):
Not on the quarterback stat You put that on the
receivers now get interceptions when it hits them in the
stomach and then it just like you know, incompletions, when
are we going to give those to receivers to just
drop it because that like again, it's not gonna happen.
It was a great It was a great tweet. I
was like, I didn't think about that, Like if receivers
had to take negatives, meaning like you caught seventy and
they actually put your drops in your stat line because
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we have to look those up to the people that
do the next gen stuff. But imagine if that was
on a stat line of drops for receivers and interceptions
for receivers.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Guys would change how they thought about stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
No, they absolutely would, but it would just create a
new platform for arguing because, for instance, then was out
the quarterbacks fall the pick six called back.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I believe that was off in Naylor's fingertips.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It was then who's ye okay, but but that's but
that's on JJ.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Naylor could not have caught that. It was high.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But the one that was off of Naylor and the
pick that did count pulsing to debo maybe yeah, I
mean he just lucks into that thing as he's walking
out of bounds.
Speaker 14 (16:55):
That's on Naylor, every bit of it. Oh yeah, that
is I mean that hit him in the hands. But
on Naylor's two again, that's that's on JAYZ because if
he throws it sooner, he can throw it softer. Meaning
now Naylor running across can just jump and catch a
soft ball that was a fastball. Again, he has to
learn when to throw the one ball, when to throw.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
The two ball. But what is this game eight for him?
You know again we're just I mean, it's it's game nine.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Nine.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, oh lord, it was a tough game.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
There there were bits I was hoping that could have
been pulled from game number nine for McCarthy nine.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
But it didn't work nine didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That, Let's do this so it's it's It is a
bit of a truncated fan line.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
If you're kind of rushing along, we're about to pause.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
The reason for that is, uh, we got a big
one today from Minnesota Wild fans. Wild hosting the Avalanche
at Grand Casino Arena. Puck dropped shortly after five pm,
So we're going to get our segments in. We're going
to get calls, takes, and talkers, of course, but we
are going to work at a little bit faster pace
today and looking forward to seeing the while just keep
this winning streak rolling, Just beat on the Avalanche and
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and handle business today.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's going to be right here on your home for
Wild Hockey the Fan. But around the.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Corner more takes, calls, talkbacks and techs. As the Vikings
without their quarterback for the second half, you want to
see a little more brosmer You got them today the
Vikings win sixteen thirteen over the Wolfel to win New
York Giants. Ron Johnson's here on Nordo. Max Fuller's producing.
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Speaker 17 (18:38):
Not that we won't have a lot of questions about
the defensive secondary and even of course our quarterback, but
kind of want to highlight the center position. I don't
see Ryan Kelly being the stable answer at center, and
I'm glad that they've been focusing on the offensive line
of the draft and the defensive line of the draft.
Is that somewhere you think that we should be again
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having a prioritize in the draft this year or should
we look in the free agency market.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Thanks for the talkback. I appreciate a free iHeart radio app.
It's Vikings fan Line, Vikings three in a row four
Ko and the Bunch. They win sixteen thirteen over the
Giants today at MetLife out East and I'm Nordo from
nine to noon. Thanks for listening, and then early Merry
Christmas to all of you. Ron Johnson this year and
let's talk about the old line a bit. Checking in
on the phone lines. How in Saint Paul. How welcome
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to Vikings fan Line.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Right, yeah, thank you you guys do a great job too.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh thank you?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
How about that sadly, Yeah, on that one quarterback that
that the defensive talking about a Giants, they need to
work on the offensive line. They need to get that
fig because you keep having a hit like that, they're
going to lose a quarter quarterback pretty so they are
down to their backup now.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Also awesome.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
One other things if they ever go to an eighteen
game schedule, what they should do is increased the roster
from fifty three to sixty three and then throwing a
fight techie squad, you know, to go with that. That way,
if anybody gets important, they got some of the replace with.
Speaker 16 (20:13):
Don't worry about that trying to.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Gnaggle the roster, you know, Yeah, because I could say
something right now, we're over at Joe Montana and Pat
Mahost said like this, they're the same way with McCarthy.
They got the offensive line, Stay said, guess what happened
all of fame careers.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Indeed, I appreciate, Yeah, I appreciate the call. Hell have
an awesome day. In terms of eighteen game schedules, increasing
the roster, the practice squad already provides some protection in
terms of a taxi squad, is it? But but yeah,
I mean at some point potentially having more bodies technically
available on game day, but that's not you know that
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those are things probably that'll come up in discussions to
the offensive line, the house point, to the talkbacks point.
It does kind of feel whether you know, Brian O'Neil's
been been up in now getting nicked up, and he
was back.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
In there doing his thing today. We like that.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But then Ryan Kelly with another concussion potentially as he
was unable to return.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We know Darisa's out for the year.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Into the season, we're thinking this addressed in free agency,
that this is a position group of strength ron and
now as we slowly pull out the string on this season,
here two more games to go, You're going into the
offseason with questions concerning maybe O'Neil's consistency of availability combined
with age.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And I love Brian O'Neil. Ain't trying to run him
out of town.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I need to know where Christian Darisa is at right
and we're all going to hope and assume that a
full off season for him will lead to good health
and just the mentality of getting back into the mix.
Ryan Kelly, and this is just as a fellow human,
I'm like six concussions, dude, Like I got zero faith
in that, and if he wants to play and continue
to play, those are decisions that I'm not a part
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of making.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But in the end, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Like I kind of like our draft pick, and I
think Will Fries has slowly ascended into being maybe the
most reliable offensive lineman in the group right now. Like
I'm not super high on the Minnesota Moving Company in
this moment.
Speaker 14 (22:08):
Yeah, And so you know, first to your point about
Brian O'Neill, I think his injuries are avoidable, you know,
like I think those can he can move on from those,
the concussions with or sorry, and then let me go
to darrisaw next.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
He got hurt with that Week eight.
Speaker 14 (22:25):
I think last year it's something like that Week nine
Thursday night game in the Rams. So, like I said,
eight or nine, he shouldn't have been back potentially the
way everybody's saying it's a twelve month injury until week
eight or nine of this season theoretically, because people are
saying Mahomes won't be back even next year because it's
so late in the season. If you're thinking he's going
to come back for Week fifteen or sixteen, he's not
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coming back right. So that's where darris Au Darisol came
back sooner than expected, like Adrian Peterson, but he's not
Adrian Peterson. He's carrying a lot more weight, you know,
just him walking around with that three hundred plus pound body, Like,
that's a lot on that knee. So whether there's additional swelling,
scar tissue, whatever, that's that. So we had to figure out,
like you said, a full off season and then come
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back next OTAs or training.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Can't where is he at?
Speaker 14 (23:11):
But with Kelly, yeah, like that's like that has nothing
to do with his ability that is one hundred percent.
His brain is just kind of like, dude, this might
be it for us, you know. And I'm not gonna
say specific things or Guardian caps or whatever, because there's
all kinds of conversations out there about that. The only
thing I've seen is Christian Darrisaw is wearing the Vices
(23:31):
trench helmet, and that's the new one from Vices the
Patrick Mahomes and then where the regular Vices Aaron Jones
wears the regular Devices, but then there's the Vices trench
that added that front protection. Okay, that's the only thing
I could see him jumping to next year if he
decides to come back. I don't know where he's at
now for him and what he's doing, and I'm meant
to look at that. But that's crazy, you know when
you think about all because a lot offensive lineman George
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Kittle jump to it. That's the only other thing I
could see because the Guardian cap I don't really think.
I mean Romeo dubs. It didn't really work for him
per se. You know, he was still getting hit.
Speaker 18 (24:01):
Well.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I think the tough thing as you as you start
to stack these things is it's not like highlight slow motion.
Oh my goodness, how is his head still attached to
his neck? No? I mean there can be just random stuff,
innocuous contact of what would appear to be pretty soft.
Speaker 14 (24:17):
It's head to the ground. I mean anything head to
the ground and it's going to the ground. And that's
when you see these guys. But like see I think
they say like sixty to seventy percent of offensive line
and their hits are coming up front like because they're
doing it every every play. So that's the only other thing.
But other than that, yeah, it's like, what's what's in
the draft, you know, what's in the draft or center?
Is there any free agent centers out there? Because yeah,
the offensive Donovan Jackson I think played pretty well. We
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haven't said much about him and like any poor play
from him, right, so they and Fries. I think when
he's healthy, he's good. Darris all we know is good
when he's healthy. Yeah, I think O'Neill's fine. It comes
down to now like center, and then is JJ McCarthy
what is that going to look like?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
CJ? And Saint Paul CJ. Welcome to Vikings fan line.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Hi guys, thanks for taking my call. I guess my
you know my overall point. And then I have another
question is on offense. We were we're nervous, you know,
and we have the ball, you know what I mean.
I mean it takes you know, was it thirty five
seconds you know between plays or whatever the play cluck is,
(25:21):
But we like come out of the huddle at like hm,
you know what I mean, and now we change the
play and it doesn't matter if it's McCarthy or brosmur
or whatever, but you know, and we maybe snap it
at like fifteen, you know, because we have the ball
in the defense doesn't know what play we're going to
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run you know what I mean. Yeah, we just we
seem to run it down to we run it down
to like a half a second, and it doesn't doesn't
help our quarterback. Just we know the play, snap the
ball and run the play.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Okay, yeah, yea. I appreciate you calling in, CJ. I
would actually say, and there was a delay a game today.
I don't know if maybe that was part of the
reason CJ brought that up. That has been a consistent
thing that we've talked about. Just clearly, it's too busy
in the headset and these guys are breaking the huddle
with ten twelve seconds left, and now I'm asking the
kid to do all the pre snap work in that
limited time. I actually think that's been a lot better
(26:21):
the last few weeks. I don't know what you've seen.
I mean, there are always moments I saw. I did
see a couple plays earlier today where I'm like, hello, like,
would we like to continue running the offense here? One
of them results in a delay a game. But I
actually think that has improved. Yeah, snapping in a.
Speaker 14 (26:36):
Fifteen No, I would say no, But I do understand
a caller's point. But you probably do it's okay to
snap it around five to seven.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I think he may have meant breaking the huddle. Oh,
breaking the huddle of fifteen, okay, yeah, I think help.
So just about I think he's about to stab it.
Speaker 14 (26:51):
At fifteen because he said the defense doesn't know we're
doing we come to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I think just about every offense grinds that thing down because.
Speaker 14 (26:58):
You want to be able to So if you heard
like again, because the crowd was quiet, according to Jonathan Vilma,
so you could hear you're so mad in Vilma, you
could hear, you know, the offensive calls.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
He's not a great analyst. It just some of the stuff,
he says, I get it. It was a.
Speaker 14 (27:14):
Bad like it was a slow game, so you're trying
to feel dead air. But it just felt like some
of the chatter was unnecessary and wrong, so.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You wouldn't mind it, he said. He said he drew
up a play.
Speaker 14 (27:26):
And said this was the play they ran when Dallas
Turner had a sack. And so in my mind, I'm like,
Dallas Turner got a sack? When did he get a sack?
So you know, it's just like little stuff like that. Again,
I watched the game a little too close, so maybe
the fans didn't even notice that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
But I was like, he didn't get a sack. When
did he get a sack?
Speaker 14 (27:41):
But anyway, so going to the caller's point, though, you
hear the kill kill kill, you hear the can can can,
and then you hear okay, go go go, which means
we got to hurry out.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'm at three seconds. Let's just run what was.
Speaker 14 (27:51):
Called right there. It's it's a billet chick defense. So
that's what you know de Bowl was running. That's what
Floores kind of runs, which is I'm going to try
to mess with you up until you snap this ball.
That's where Jajon McCarthy and both Max Brosmer were trying
to can and switch to plays. Yeah, maybe come to
the line at fifteen seconds so you're not coming down
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to that three second deal one. But Jackson Dark had
a couple of delay games and false starts too because
of that, because he was getting down to that one
second mark and then the line was jumping because they
thought it was snapped or it was just a delay game.
So yeah, they but yeah, I think Kevin O'Connor did
take away from the early stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I think I think there's been great improvement there overall
in terms of breaking the huddles. That's where and then
you know, if you're putting people in motion, we're trying
to see if we got manner zone and just kind
of all that pre snap stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Don't hurry.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's been a lot better over the last few weeks,
with room to grow.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Ron Johnson's here on Nordo.
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Speaker 11 (29:22):
After this year, it's going to be tough to imagine
keeping Addison, Naylor and Jefferson in a CAP league. I
know that point you move on from Addison, we signed
Naylor and try to draft a Wed receiver to replace him,
or do you think it's Felton or you say, hey,
we're gonna go to wide receivers helped craft some of
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the fifty six ground was injured and live more on
the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And Howard in Chicago, it's up to thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Howard.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yes, I've received ten of your text messages as well.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Welcome back. It's Vikings fan line.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Sixteen thirteen is the final it met life and the
Vikings now seven and eight winners are three straight. For
those talking about the draft, maybe they're frustrated that the
Vikings won today because the Vikings are now sitting and
I just go to NFL Tankathon if you ever heard
of that website. Ron, Yeah, they are now currently they're
currently fourteen in the draft as it sits now at
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seven and eight, so that slowly crept down the list
Vikings fans from. I think at one point I saw
him at ten or eleven, so a few spots in
the draft due to these victories, probably nine and eight.
Do you like the victories because you get to see
good things from your tenth overall selection a couple of
years ago, JJ McCarthy or is it truly all about
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trying to thread that needle and get as high up
the drafts chart as you possibly can. That's up to
you to decide. I like seeing good things from the QB.
I'd like to see my QB staying on the field. Yeah,
hand injury negative, then he'll be evaluated. Nobody's fault tomorrow,
Monty and Wilmer Monty, welcome to the Vikings fan line.
Speaker 16 (31:09):
Hey, what's going on just a little bit of Carthy's development.
What I'm seeing is he's making throws now that he
did not make at the beginning of the season. They're
not flying ten feet over Jefferson's head, and they're not
coming up short or behind too often. But what's frustrating
with JJ right now is there's a lot of hard
(31:31):
things to do as quarterback. To me, he's not doing
the easy things like Ron you pointed out through that
screen pass in the dirt. I mean, that's that's an
easy one. Get the snap off before the play clock
runs out, that's an easy one. I want to touch
on the defense a little bit. Everybody talks about Flora's
getting another head coaching position. I'd like to pull the
(31:53):
Viking fans. It seems to me that Flores does more
with the defense with less injuries than O'Connell does more
with the offense with less Your thoughts like I kind
of like Laura's, you know, as being a head coach,
but with the vikings.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Thanks guys, thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
First of all, you can tell there's part of me
that says he'll be interviewed and they'll go through the process.
I just wonder how much this lawsuit and the and
the that actually.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Going to go through now.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
But but I think that as part of that, I
wonder how much that factors in into not ultimately being
a final candidate for another team.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Oh huge, These owners are friends, Like, you're suing.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
My buddy that I'm golfing with next week, Like like.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I would have to, and it will potentially require change
that I'm not even interested in dealing with.
Speaker 14 (32:47):
So when you saw a lot of the owners push
Snyder out right for the commanders, and they were sick
of him, Like whatever he was doing, they were sick
of it. They were sick of the culture, the womanizing,
all the stuff they heard about. They're like, all right,
let's get rid of them. They pulled that one, the
Carolina guy. Remember he did some weird Yeah, he did
some weird stuff in his office.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
He threw a drink on a fan. I think too.
He threw a drink on a fan.
Speaker 14 (33:07):
He also like he liked massages on his feet or
something like, you know, all kinds of weird stuff like that.
So the Panthers owner, Yeah, just look at out one
of the stuff he has some he has some stuff
in his office where he liked to get massages from like.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Red Ring but fetish.
Speaker 14 (33:23):
But so if the owners don't turn on the Dolphins owner,
there's not a chance that one of these owners are
gonna take that chance before unless there's an issue, Like
if there is an issue with the Dolphins, they'll be like,
who cares if you're suing the Dolphins, come be my
head coach, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
And I think that's what's gonna take.
Speaker 14 (33:39):
I think the Giants would have been a great landing
place if Belichick hadn't texted.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
The wrong Brian, like that created some drama.
Speaker 14 (33:46):
You know, like if if Belichick never texts Brian floor
as congratulations, He's like, is this wait, who is this?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
This black Brian and white Brian?
Speaker 14 (33:56):
This is black Brian, coach. Oh my bad, it's white
Brian that got the job. But if you had not
have done that, then the Giants probably would have bought
him in because he would be a great fit for
New York. When you talk about the big lights out there,
this defense that he has, it's another Belichick extension of
the defense.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, it's it's just gonna be. It has to be a.
Speaker 14 (34:15):
Team that doesn't care about the Dolphins to pull the
trigger because these guys are friends.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
On the other side of that, though he was, it
sounded like there was an insinuation that Flores would become
the head coach here.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, I don't think that that's not that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Uh to the text line, if you're the head coach,
what is the goal in these last few games?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Now?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Two of course Christmas Day and then a week from Sunday,
two weeks from today border battle? Is the focus just
on getting McCarthy more snaps? Are you trying to play
some backups to see what they are made of? Are
you already shopping for future vikings in the trade pool?
What do you do if you're if you're the head
coach ron, what is the what is what is the
massive a topic for you?
Speaker 14 (34:54):
A L l U m all up everything? You're trying
to do all of that, like you want to see
your quarterback. You want to see who's going to make
this roster, no T because it's just like b O
F f U M both of them. It's it's both
all of them, both of them. When you when you
think about that, yeah, Max knows when you think about that, right,
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it's it's it's the ability.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
To be.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
We are laughing, all right, I didn't know that.
Speaker 14 (35:26):
Yeah, both of them for people at home, just and
I think, but all of them for those it at home.
It's you want to do it all, but you have
to see because again, this season's over, right, we know that.
So it's signing guys the minute this season ends, you
(35:46):
gotta start scouring the earth for free agents of who
you want to bring you in for the off season.
You're looking at who you have. Is Isaiah Rodgers coming back?
You know, you know, can you afford to keep him?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It does?
Speaker 14 (35:59):
He He did a great out today, you know, playing
that that deep third and broke up that pass on
what's his name the dude from uh it was no
Wandale Moore or Wandale Robindale Robinson. You know, that's that's
what you do. So you have to do it all.
But you only have two games left to do it.
I think the a topic is JJ McCarthy. If he
can go, you gotta let him keep going because you
gotta build on this shoulder head toes, pure progression stuff
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that you're trying to get out of the.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Last two and a half games have given me a
ton of optimism. Yeah oh yeah, but now the hand
is the anvil that crushes all of that.
Speaker 14 (36:32):
It's like chasing o is at the Wiley coyote, chasing
the road runner, like yeah, you eventually are there and then.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Boom, there's it's it's you're done. All right, let's let's
do this.
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Speaker 3 (36:58):
The Vikings win today six Team thirteen.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
We're gonna watch for this injury with JJ McCarthy's hand
X rays.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
We're negative.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
He'll be evaluated tomorrow, gets more intel throughout the week.
Hopefully he can go, because it's a Christmas Day affair.
The Vikings are hosting the Detroit Lions Christmas Day in
the afternoon, and that's the next time we're going to
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Vikings wins sixteen thirteen at the New York Giants. Today
they improved to seven and eight. They've won three and
three straight. Now news out of the game. You get
to get a little love to Justin Jefferson today six
at his eighty five yards for him, a rushing touchdown
by JJ McCarthy. Sadly a hand injury for JJ McCarthy
(39:06):
as well, but the defense just tee and off at
times on Jackson dart All part of the victory calls,
text talkbacks, few truncated segments leading you up to Wild
Hockey Wild hosting the AVS massive Central Division collision on
the ice. We're looking forward to that puck trap shortly
after five pm. I let's jump to the phone lines.
Hammy in Rochester, Hammy, welcome to Vikings fan Line.
Speaker 10 (39:30):
Hey, how are you guys? Happy holidays? But anyway, what
I want to get to it's not the game. It's
about the roster and what is going on. We have
three years of failed drafts. We have no you know,
talented depth at all. I mean it, you can't. The
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equation is to build a team through free agency with
the other end a failure. You can't sustain it. I mean,
I've been watching this team and I cried after Super
Bowl four. I mean, I'm that old. I'll be sixty
five in May. And you know what, I hope you
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guys have heard of a man called Jim Finks. Jim
Finks built the nineteen seventy Vikings drafted foreman I mean
Ed White Ron here, I mean Gene Washington, Clint Jones,
Allan Page, etc. You know where he went from. Then
(40:38):
he went to Chicago and he built the eighty five Bears.
Now that is a general manager. And I'm just saying,
you know, I know I'm old, but you know what
it is? What it is?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
All right? Early birthday.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
By the way, I don't know if I'll talk to
you before next May. Happy sixty fifth Finks or anybody else.
All the way through Spielman and now quasidol Fa mensa
Ron depth is is a part of the conversation, not
necessarily you know, one hundred percent in the draft season yet.
But that goes whether it's into the O line conversation
that we're talking about Harrison Smith about, it's it's it's
(41:23):
incidental contact to the.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Helmet, it's the world we live in now. Disappointed.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I think that would have been his twenty first and
a half sack of his career that was taken away
because of the Russian roughing the passer.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Safety is a spot that lacks depth at this particular point.
Depth at the corner spot could be discussed as well.
I got to give it to Hammy in Rochester. He's
dead on from from a depth standpoint. We talked about
it with the old line just a couple segments ago. It's,
you know, places that we may have felt confident in
into the season or even recently. But as this thing
(41:56):
winds down, there are a ton of things on the
to do list for the general manager at this point.
Depth is a massive part of that.
Speaker 14 (42:03):
Yeah, and so when you talk about the I forgot
was the first caller. Maybe they said we should have
an additional group of people they go eighteen games.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I think that's part of it.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Right.
Speaker 14 (42:13):
Some people have said eighty players, eighty players, eighteen weeks.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
If that's the route you go.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Well, but that doesn't address the talent issue to say, oh,
if you get eighty players, you can have ninety.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
So if you get eighty players, where are these additional.
Speaker 14 (42:32):
Like where's the cause is there? Because that's my question
right now. Either one is it a dollars thing? So
then let's go to eighty and also increase these billionaires
to be able to pay more because you're saying, oh,
I can't afford this guy because I don't have this cap.
Baseball doesn't have a cap. I'm not saying football should
not have a cap, but maybe it's just so low
(42:54):
that you're having to pay for these younger, inexperienced players,
or you're having because like if we look at the
free agent list right now.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Well, no, that's it's because we haven't drafted effectively. That
could be part.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
You're focused on the dollars, I am, but the team
has to spend. There's been some guns, and everyone has
to spend the same amount of dollars. They have the
same amount of money to spend and they get to
allocated however they see fit. Our particular team has to
spend more via free agency because we are not effective
in the draft.
Speaker 14 (43:21):
True, but if we were the Cardinals, if we were
the I can go down the list of teams right now, Saints,
Like if we were doing the Saints fan line, Cardinals
fan I guarantee I.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Think they've won three or four straight.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
It might be fun Tyler Tyler shuck, Tyler Shuck, but
I think they would be.
Speaker 14 (43:36):
Saying the same thing about some of their draft picks,
you know, like how many have worked out for those teams,
you know, and where they're drafting, Like I get Will Johnson,
Marvin Harrison all this stuff in their three win team,
you know, like it's it's it's more to it with
the chemistry and end guys and bringing them in. I
do agree you have to draft better because I think
somebody I forgot which draft class it was, but Spilman
(43:56):
has some tankers too, Like if you go back to
the was a Keller Kellen Mond?
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Is anybody from that draft all the round? Like I
think maybe one guy, one or two guys like, oh okay,
so let me see Kellen Mond it was?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
That was a big ten offensive line Die Wyatt, Uh Wyatt, what.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
You're talking about? It was Troy Die though I think
he was in that group.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
But there was an Ohio. There was a big ten
offensive lineman of the year. As part of that, we
drafted four guys. Chaz Surrat may have been in that
mix as well. It was the four greatest third round
picks in the history of the NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, twenty twenty one, that was the one.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
And do you have those names in front of you?
I think so, Minnesota Vikes, Kellen Mont third round picks. Okay,
I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to Q and
cuon Rapids. Here, Q and Coon Rapids. Welcome to Vikings
fan line.
Speaker 10 (44:51):
What's he going on?
Speaker 19 (44:52):
Guy?
Speaker 10 (44:54):
How you doing?
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Run?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Really well? Man?
Speaker 19 (44:58):
I want to give a couple of shout outs real quick.
Shout out to kpe Man keeping me entertained throughout all
times of my day.
Speaker 10 (45:05):
I'm on the road so much it's crazy.
Speaker 19 (45:08):
Shout out to you guys. This fanline stuff is tough.
And the last one shout out to Rex Ryan. Don't
fetishes or what it's about. Don't kink shame. Now I'm
gona get to my point. I don't know. Some people's
love language are words of affirmation, and I got some
for you about our young quarterback. I'm not really worried
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about anything that I've been seeing because I know that playing.
Speaker 10 (45:36):
Quarterback is hard to do.
Speaker 19 (45:37):
We've been seeing improvements. The one thing that I am
concerned about is how he kind of is paper machine man. Yeah,
Joe Burrow is sick. Right, He's super nice, but he's
injured so much so if JJ were able to just
play good every time he's in and put up like
all Star numbers but only play put up pro bow numbers,
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but only play six games a year, does that make
everybody happy?
Speaker 5 (46:04):
No?
Speaker 19 (46:04):
I don't think that it would. I like what I've
been seeing. I'm not upset we can't win fourteen games
every year. I feel good goal fights.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Let's go appreciate it. Que Merry Christmas to you. Uh yes,
that that is that. That's where my head's at, as
well as is maybe many Vikings fans is. In addition
is okay. I'm worried about the growth. I'm starting to
see the growth. I just saw two and a half
games worth of tape. That tells me I think the
kids starting to get it. Things are starting to slow
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down for him. That's super cool. The hand injury, his
availability is becoming, maybe at this stage, more problematic than
even his base ability. Yeah so I uh so, so
I'm with you, q man. There are things to be
positive and optimistic about. When it comes to McCarthy, I.
Speaker 14 (46:51):
Will give you the quick draft you you're right, Wyatt Davis, Why,
Patrick Jones.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Patrick Jones, Kelen mon Knawan cambine him, but he's not here.
Speaker 14 (47:02):
Jennarius Robinson, Amir Smith, Marsett, Zach Davidson, and Jalen Twineman.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
So and Christian Darrisol was the first one. So that
one worked out o.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Jalen Twineman was the He had the baby face from
Pitt from Pitt. Yeah, and he honestly looked like he
was seven years old, built like a bowling ball. Didn't
work out for him, the sixth round draft pick. We're
gonna pause truncated segments. As I mentioned when we returned,
You're gonna get your Chevy Dealer's drive of the game,
and we're working our way towards a different kind of game.
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The Minnesota Wild hosting the Colorado Avalanche Buck Drop shortly
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Speaker 3 (47:37):
Right here on the fan, We'll be.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Back thanks to our local Chevy Dealers drive of the
game sixteen thirteen.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
It's Vikings fan line, Minnesota Vikings win sixteen thirteen, and
while it's the drive that actually resulted in a touchdown
for your favorite team, sounded like this.
Speaker 18 (47:58):
McCarthy's out of the shotgun, George Addison in motion to
the left. McCarthy back to pass, big rush by the Giants,
JJ gets out of it, runs right, fifteen to ten
to five to the end zone.
Speaker 10 (48:08):
Touchdown. Peace.
Speaker 18 (48:11):
JJ McCarthy with his fourth rushing touchdown that came from
twelve yards out and Minnesota Leeds twelve.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Three turning picks into points. Murphy Junior with the interception
short field McCarthy into the end zone.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Seven points for the good guys.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
All part of a game that ended sixteen thirteen in
favor of your favorite team. We will pause, put a
rap on this thing around the corner. Final segment. Vikings
fan line is next.
Speaker 10 (48:40):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (48:41):
I don't understand how we're saying we're seeing growth from
the kid. We're playing some of the worst defenses in
the league and we're giving it like he's playing the
Eagles of the Patriots or these crazy defenses.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
He's not.
Speaker 12 (48:54):
He's playing trust defenses and he's playing good, great, Well,
what happens when he can't stay in the field? What
happens when he can't play a good defense? Like we
need a new quarterback first? Can't win a super Bowl
with a crappy quarterback? Only the Ravens kind of no one.
I'm ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Talkback machine free, iHeart radio app. You acknowledge he's playing good?
What can't what happens when he can't stay on the field.
That's the point via the talkback, and I appreciate the
talk back and the perspective. I don't see, as you said,
I don't understand how we're seeing growth from the kid.
I don't see how you can pragmatically look at the
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last games, the last three games, and say that you're
not seeing growth.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
So is it just is it Stubborn didn't want the kid?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
You wanted Donald and so you're almost willing yourself into
this idea. You're rooting for him to fail in some
ways so that you can be validated or vindicated in
your idea. I don't know, he isn't good enough to
win a Super Bowl right now. Absolutely not, and that
I will agree with you. That needs to improve. He
needs to stay on the field to and so that's
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where I'm at, not trying to pretend he's playing the
eighty five Bears every week. He has looked markedly better
the last three games. There is measurable improvement to what
you're seeing from JJ McCarthy. So but you're right, we
can't win a Super Bowl with what we're seeing out
there on the field right now, no doubt about that.
You and I are in lockstep part of the process
drafting a kid, raising him needs to be better and
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needs to be on the field to get better his
hand injury. It's troublesome. This is now, I believe is
what have we got here? I saw I a text.
Speaker 8 (50:32):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Name the McCarthy injuries in order and win a fifty
dollars gift card to o'connellcare dot org. Thanks for the texts.
The fact of the matter is he needs to stay
on the field. He needs to get better from the
knee a year ago to now, the ankle, the concussion
and the hand today. That is a problem that needs
to be rectified. But if we get to see him
on Christmas. Ron, that's gonna be cool, right.
Speaker 14 (50:55):
Definitely will be I mean, is Christmas football. We get
to do the fan line. I'm gonna have my oor
out if something crazy happens. Absoluteliness. Good to see you, Ron,
Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Vikings win sixteen thirteen and improved to seven and eight
live in local tomorrow starting with the Power Trip at
five thirty am, nine to noon. We'll be pumping it up.
I got some drive buys in the email inbox. We're
gonna have some fun with it. Thanks to Max Fuller
for producing, and again Christmas Day by Merry Christmas people, Absolutely,
Merry Christmas, everybody. Pregame around one thirty on the Flagship,
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thirty Fan line with Ron and I hopefully calling a
victory over the kiddies.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Sixteen thirteen, the Final MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. The
Vikings have now won three in a row. They improved
a seven and eight in the season as they beat
the lowly.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I mean just the putrid and awful.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You watch the game, you listen to the game on
the home for Vikings Football the Fan. How bad are
those giants? Your Vikings find their way to a victory.
A bunch of things to get into. The quarter back
misses the entire second half. JJ McCarthy staying on the
field becoming a massive talker with him just as much
as it is about him developing and taking steps in
his career on the field. We're gonna get to whether
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it's calls eight hundred three two zero five three two
six and then the text line six four six eight
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know I love the talkbacks, free, iHeartRadio app, hit the microphone,
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Speaker 3 (01:25):
We'll get to all that.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But Ben Lieber back in Met Life, he had the
opportunity to chat with Justin Jefferson, who today is six
catches eighty five yards.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
It's been a while since we've seen.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Number eighteen impacting games the way we know he can
and the way we've become very accustomed to six grabs
eighty five yards for him. Feels like what a banner
day for him. Right Well, he was chatting with Ben Leeber.
Let's listen, I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Standing here with the very happy and celebratory Justin Jefferson
with the big OL's smile. You knew what you knew
exactly how many stats and yards you had this time?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Didn't for sure?
Speaker 6 (02:00):
You know what a couple of plays, a couple of
big opportunities on third down, Uh, you know, me making
some some big plays.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
And then of course you know, not really having that.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Uh, you know, statistics for the past couple of weeks.
You know, I definitely was locked in today.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
All right, I'm gonna put you on the spot here.
You had two incredible catches on the sidelines. You gotta
choose one. Which one was your favorite?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, for sure, I'm gonna say the second one. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (02:29):
Yeah, Naylor's answering for you.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, great ball.
Speaker 9 (02:32):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Just the late hands uh and then toe tapping on
the sideline on on.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
That big third down.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
That's that's very big for our offense to continue those
dribs and continue that momentum. Uh, and of course to
give Max to that confidence to continue to throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Uh. So yeah, that that one was definitely one of
my favorite ones.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
What did he say to you in the in the
huddle after that?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Great catch? Great catch?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
But I always say, you know, I always practice those
type of catches always, you know, just try to overdo
myself in those type of situations. So for him to
give me that opportunity, for Ko to call that play
knowing that I'm most likely going to get that ball,
I mean, it's just time and time again. We just
got to continue to figure it out and continue to
connect with each other.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Did you guys expect that much pressure early in the
game any kind of throughout. They didn't seem to be
a heavy blitzing team, but really from the first play
on they were there bringing some pressure.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Yeah, I would say, just you know, for further quarterbacks
to not hold onto the ball too long and not
us taking the top off of their defense. So I
mean them just trying to get us to quick throw
the ball and getting it in and out of the
quarterbacks hands and for us to just go make those plays.
So those screens and the stuff in the first half,
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those came from the blitz and us allowing to just
man on and just you know, go attack and go
get that first down.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It seemed like this game, more so than others, you're
involved in a lot more the quick underneath stuff, the
quick crossing routes, especially some of the yak yards that
you had.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Was that just a product of what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Was that kind of built in the game plan and
kind of gets you involved underneath more often?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
A little both.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I mean, just with how our defenses have been playing
me for the past two years.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
They're really not allowing me to go deep.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
They're not really allowing me to you know, take the
top off and to have those one hundred and fifty
yard games. So I mean, we got to get the
ball in my hand some type of way. So just
having those screens, having those quick plays to get me
the ball and let me just go work and get
those yards after the catch.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, I'm always curious when you're running some of
those plays and you're doing the yards after catch and
sometimes on the undesigned screenplays, are you aware of some
of the blocks are taking place out in front of you?
Or is this one of those things that you just
you just see color and you just try to get past.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Them a little mixture of both.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I'm kind of aware of the leverages and you know
where my guys are going to be at for me
to really take the you know, take the lanes. But
it's really you know, sea color get away from me.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
They keep going. So it's just I mean, it's just
all about going in at tacking.
Speaker 10 (05:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
My mindset was just going that day and attacking every
play that I have, each opportunity that I have, I
got to make the most of them.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, I gotta tell you from just a football standpoint,
I mean, watching you guys run the screenplays, especially today,
it's pretty special.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Because it takes everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
It takes timing, it takes rhythm, and it gets guys
a hat on the hat.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
And you know, I think I don't think.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
People really appreciate just like the team effort it takes
to have a successful screen.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
You know, a screen that doesn't just happen from one
person and making everybody missing go and score. It comes
from the O line getting getting out of their stance
and getting out to that to that why side. The
block for the tight ends the receivers to a block
as well. So uh, and then we always take an
initiative to block in a run game as well. So
we're always trying to fight for one another. We're always
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trying to spring open that play, uh, that big play
that we need for the momentum, for the for the
confidence of everybody else on that offense. So I'm just
glad that I was able to get the ball a
little bit, get those conversions on third down, uh, and
for the for the office to keep moving.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
One for me here is like I know it was
a little windy out there.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He was cool.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
I wouldn't make I wouldn't necessarily say cold.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
But you guys, he had some difficulty coming down with
some of those balls out there early on. You know,
was there something to that was the weather part of
that at all?
Speaker 10 (06:13):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
No, I wouldn't say, uh, the weather was a problem.
It's just, uh, it's just how it happens, not really
you know, a specific thing. Of course, we gotta you know,
be more focused and be more and locked in, uh
to you know, catching those balls and uh to be
on the same page with the quarterback.
Speaker 10 (06:30):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
But you know we're we're never gonna say any excuses
from us catching the ball.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
We got to catch the ball at the end of
the day.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Okay, I promise you this is the last one I
was gonna let's I do want to touch on on Brosemer.
I mean, it's a pretty tough spot for any backup
quarterback to come in, especially like that. You know, he continues,
at least from us on the outside looking in, to
just be calm and collected.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Is that how he feels when he's in the huddles?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Well, I definitely agree. You know, you don't feel that
nervous vibe. You don't feel like he's uh too energetic
or too hyped.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Up for that moment.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
He's just cool, calm and collected, going in there doing
his job, leading in the offense to where we need
to go. But I mean, we always have confidence in
Max for confidence and JJ confidence and anybody to go
in there, go out there and do what we need
to do, just because of the preparation that we have
throughout the week, and of course the playmakers that we
have on the offensive side of the ball. So we
always confident in just going out there and playing our ball.
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But this is the type of ball we should have
been playing for the whole entire season. So I'm just
glad that we're having that finished mindset rather than just
laying our heads all planning our vacations in the off
season and just going about our business.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
So I'm just happy that I'm with this group of guys.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
Yeah, great job, man, great game.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
All right, it's back to you.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It's Ben Leber with Justin Jefferson again. Six catches eighty
five yards as part of the victory effort this afternoon,
sixteen thirteen to the final.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
We're gonna pause and come back, Drew CJ. Hal Monty.
Everybody on hold from the phone line perspective. I got
talked backs, locked and loaded. Ron Johnson's going to enter
the freight and I'm actually going to talk to him
about the passing game today. Justin Jefferson and the QB
where it was a hand injury. We heard it from
the coach. Not exactly sure how severe it is, but
those are going to be at least a couple of
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the talkers as we push on.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
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Speaker 2 (08:17):
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The fan.
Speaker 12 (08:41):
Guys, I have a fear that J. J.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
McCarthy might be an injury pro quarter of that.
Speaker 10 (08:48):
Can you discuss that?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Tell us what you.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Think we will?
Speaker 13 (08:57):
Thank God, we have another loss season for the min
Soda Vikings. We can't even evaluate our quarterback long enough
to know if he can make it in the NFL.
We can't stand on the field more than three games
at a time. My buddy cou said he would lead
the league interceptions, but we won't even know if that's
possible or not. Host coaching administration has a bad year
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every other year and flops every other year unless we
have a week schedule.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
What up?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Coups his buddy's name said? He said said JJ McCarthy
would lead the league in interceptions. That's what Coup said.
Welcome back to Vikings fan line. You just heard a
couple of talkbacks free iHeartRadio app. Whether you're at home,
whether you're in the club, like you heard there, we'll
take them thirty seconds hit that microphone. Welcome back to
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Vikings fan line, and we will indeed talk about JJ
McCarthy who left at halftime with a hand injury.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
To the true extent of it, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
The head coach, Kevin O'Connell went addressing the media just
minutes ago, noted that the X rays were negative, so
it's probably a positive sign. He'd be evaluated back in Minnesota,
I believe tomorrow, and then we're gonna sweat that all
week into a Christmas Kiddies game at US Bank Stadium.
Ron Johnson is with me, Nordo and Ron, you know
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the good times.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
You heard that interview with Justin.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Jefferson got the six catches today. He did set a
record today most catches for an NFL player through their
first six seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
He passed Jarvis Landry.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You dig that if operation one sixty eight was a thing,
as in the number of yards it took to get
him to a thousand yards, we just chopped that in
half eighty five today. I think that Mancato mass is
about eighty three yards would be still required for him
to get to the century mark. Also twenty something yards,
I believe, from passing Randy Moss for the most receiving
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yards in six seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So some cool things there.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Kid can't stay on the field, as in JJ McCarthy,
and there was some speculation it sounded like during Ko's
presser that it even happened before the rushing touchdown correct
in which he hurt his hand, and that this is
this is the concern that.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
The knee a year ago.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
We see a lot of knees occurring in the NFL
every single year. But then there's the ankle, then there's
a concussion. Now it's the hand. Very troublesome in terms
of reps in rhythm for a kid that really really
needs every freaking snap he can get on the field.
Speaker 14 (11:23):
Yeah, and hands are tough when you're a quarterback specifically,
you know, quarterbacks, receiver.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There's some position. Yeah, I mean if it was his
left hand he's got to throw the ball, he'd be fine.
You know, his left hand he can get through. I
mean even his throw hand. Though remember earlier he doesn't
Herbert have like a broken left hand.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Uh. Possibly, I don't even know that.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I know McCarthy.
Speaker 14 (11:39):
Remember you had the patch for the laceration early in
the season, so he's had some stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But here's the thing, and I did tweet out the video.
Speaker 14 (11:46):
It looks like he when he threw on the follow
that he hit his hand on I think ninety five's helmet.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
So it did actually happen. It is true. Brian O'Neill
did not get the quarterback hurt.
Speaker 14 (11:56):
For everybody thinking that Brian O'Neill also, it was a
turn for so Brian O'Neill was taking the most dangerous
knowing they were going with a backside screen. He is
supposed to turn the last guy on the end loose,
which means your quarterback has to throw the ball into
the dirt. It's a screen. The guy jumped, he's in
your lane. You just throw it. You don't pull down
the screen because you have no backside protection. Because they
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turned the last guy free. By all accounts, the quarterback
would know that's on.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
He's probably running free, correct, because it has to get
rid of the freaking ball.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You pre count the number of guys.
Speaker 14 (12:26):
Now, now the guy dropped that, O'Neill thought he was
gonna have to block. So should he have turned out
to Burns. Yeah, but Burns he didn't have time.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
He wasn't gonna get to it. He wasn't going to
get to him in time.
Speaker 14 (12:36):
So it's like you have to know as a quarterback,
I count the number of guys at the line of scrimmage.
I know this guy number zero is unblocked. If the
screen's not there, I'm eli manning the bit. I'm throwing
it and I'm turning and curling up like a baby
and laying on the ground, like just throw it into
the ground underneath the feet of the guy jumping in
the air, and the rest are going to let it
go because they're going to say, oh, yeah, you had
a screen out there called So that's and again, even
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if he doesn't get hit by Burns, you got linemen
down the field. You can't do anything else right, you
can't throw the ball. So again, that's on him. That's
not on the line, that's not on the you know,
that's that's on him one hundred percent. But again that's
just the learning curve of a young quarterback who hasn't
gotten that many snaps. Aside from that, you know, you
were talking about the number of injuries.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, that's troublesome too.
Speaker 14 (13:20):
You know the touchdown, I thought I was like, oh lord,
he might have got hurt there. So it's it's just
one of this is how he's going to play, and
you got to see if this is what is worth
next year.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Drew in Roseville, let's hit the phone lines. Drew, Welcome
to Vikings fan line.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 15 (13:36):
I just wanted to say, you know, with all the
two drops from Addison and Naylor, McCarthy stat line today
is eleven or fourteen, one hundred and thirty five yards
two touchdowns with the seventy eight percent completion percentage. I
guess my fear is that McCarthy's turning into our version
of Royce Lewis and Byron Buxton just can't stay healthy,
but currently does not lack the athleticism or the arm strength.
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I think he's passed the test and hopefully he's back
out there for Detroit.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Appreciate it, guys, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I'm actually glad that we started with Drew and that
particular talker, and then then we'll pause and then re
rejump the fanlight the phone lines. But he's accurate prior
to the hand injury, I mean, and that's the that's
the frustrating, you know, putting asterisks on things and caveats
and his sides and yeah, butts, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Before that happened, he was well on his way.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It appeared to offering a similar, if not even improved
performance to what we saw in Dallas and Washington prior
to that. Jordan Adison has to take a hard look
in the mirror after that drop in the end zone.
That's just ridiculous and unacceptable. The interest free the interception
that he did throw. Naylor's got to catch that, yeah,
and that's behind him a little bit though, so we have.
Speaker 14 (14:46):
To hit him in the hands the ball, make the
catch behind him justin Jefferson's now there's nurse. Third down
play was behind him. So there's still some little things here.
And there that he's got to get the ball out.
That the outroute to Justin Jefferson. He threw a one
ball versus two ball. Justin Jefferson's wide open. You don't
need to zing it out route, like I get it.
You don't want a guy to break on that and
pick six it. But you got to see the corner.
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The cornerback was seven yards off. Just just get it
out there early so you're not waiting to like he's
waiting to throw the ball, vers throwing it on time
and kind of floating it out there. You know the
stuff we talked about Jared Golf where they said, oh,
he doesn't have a strong arm, but he gets the
ball out on time. He doesn't have to have a
strong arm, correct And that's where JJ has to learn
that part of the game.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I just I was.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I was impressed with his decision, making his choice to run.
He got an eight or a nine yard scramble in
the game, not without its worse though you mentioned those instances.
How about the pick six that thankfully was called back
because if Duel Carter was off side, I mean, they're
just preposter and it was thrown too high and it's
off the fingertips, you're right into the hand.
Speaker 14 (15:44):
I mean, Naylor's got to get a hops though, jumping. No,
I'm joking, I'm joking. I'm not gonna put that.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
No, man.
Speaker 14 (15:49):
Somebody tweeted a great point, though, when aren't we going
to start giving interceptions to receivers? Like, at what point
are we going to start taking them away from quarterbacks
if it touches.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
His hand, Yeah, and he should have called it's.
Speaker 14 (16:00):
Not on the quarterback stat You put that on the
receivers now get interceptions when it hits them in the
stomach and then it just like you know, incompletions, when
are we going to give those to receivers to just
drop it because that like again, it's not gonna happen.
It was a great It was a great tweet. I
was like, I didn't think about that, Like if receivers
had to take negatives, meaning like you caught seventy and
they actually put your drops in your stat line because
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we have to look those up to the people that
do the next gen stuff. But imagine if that was
on a stat line of drops for receivers and interceptions
for receivers.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Guys would change how they thought about stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
No, they absolutely would, but it would just create a
new platform for arguing because, for instance, then was out
the quarterbacks fall the pick six called back.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I believe that was off in Naylor's fingertips.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It was then who's ye okay, but but that's but
that's on JJ.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Naylor could not have caught that. It was high.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But the one that was off of Naylor and the
pick that did count pulsing to debo maybe yeah, I
mean he just lucks into that thing as he's walking
out of bounds.
Speaker 14 (16:55):
That's on Naylor, every bit of it. Oh yeah, that
is I mean that hit him in the hands. But
on Naylor's two again, that's that's on JAYZ because if
he throws it sooner, he can throw it softer. Meaning
now Naylor running across can just jump and catch a
soft ball that was a fastball. Again, he has to
learn when to throw the one ball, when to throw.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
The two ball. But what is this game eight for him?
You know again we're just I mean, it's it's game nine.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Nine.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, oh lord, it was a tough game.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
There there were bits I was hoping that could have
been pulled from game number nine for McCarthy nine.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
But it didn't work nine didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That, Let's do this so it's it's It is a
bit of a truncated fan line.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
If you're kind of rushing along, we're about to pause.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
The reason for that is, uh, we got a big
one today from Minnesota Wild fans. Wild hosting the Avalanche
at Grand Casino Arena. Puck dropped shortly after five pm,
So we're going to get our segments in. We're going
to get calls, takes, and talkers, of course, but we
are going to work at a little bit faster pace
today and looking forward to seeing the while just keep
this winning streak rolling, Just beat on the Avalanche and
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and handle business today.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
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Speaker 2 (18:02):
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Vikings win sixteen thirteen over the Wolfel to win New
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Speaker 16 (18:23):
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Speaker 17 (18:38):
Not that we won't have a lot of questions about
the defensive secondary and even of course our quarterback, but
kind of want to highlight the center position. I don't
see Ryan Kelly being the stable answer at center, and
I'm glad that they've been focusing on the offensive line
of the draft and the defensive line of the draft.
Is that somewhere you think that we should be again
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having a prioritize in the draft this year or should
we look in the free agency market.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
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It's Vikings fan Line, Vikings three in a row four
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Giants today at MetLife out East and I'm Nordo from
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Christmas to all of you. Ron Johnson this year and
let's talk about the old line a bit. Checking in
on the phone lines. How in Saint Paul. How welcome
(19:29):
to Vikings fan Line.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Right, yeah, thank you you guys do a great job too.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh thank you?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
How about that sadly, Yeah, on that one quarterback that
that the defensive talking about a Giants, they need to
work on the offensive line. They need to get that
fig because you keep having a hit like that, they're
going to lose a quarter quarterback pretty so they are
down to their backup now.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Also awesome.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
One other things if they ever go to an eighteen
game schedule, what they should do is increased the roster
from fifty three to sixty three and then throwing a
fight techie squad, you know, to go with that. That way,
if anybody gets important, they got some of the replace with.
Speaker 16 (20:13):
Don't worry about that trying to.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Gnaggle the roster, you know, Yeah, because I could say
something right now, we're over at Joe Montana and Pat
Mahost said like this, they're the same way with McCarthy.
They got the offensive line, Stay said, guess what happened
all of fame careers.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Indeed, I appreciate, Yeah, I appreciate the call. Hell have
an awesome day. In terms of eighteen game schedules, increasing
the roster, the practice squad already provides some protection in
terms of a taxi squad, is it? But but yeah,
I mean at some point potentially having more bodies technically
available on game day, but that's not you know that
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those are things probably that'll come up in discussions to
the offensive line, the house point, to the talkbacks point.
It does kind of feel whether you know, Brian O'Neil's
been been up in now getting nicked up, and he
was back.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
In there doing his thing today. We like that.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But then Ryan Kelly with another concussion potentially as he
was unable to return.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We know Darisa's out for the year.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Into the season, we're thinking this addressed in free agency,
that this is a position group of strength ron and
now as we slowly pull out the string on this season,
here two more games to go, You're going into the
offseason with questions concerning maybe O'Neil's consistency of availability combined
with age.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And I love Brian O'Neil. Ain't trying to run him
out of town.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I need to know where Christian Darisa is at right
and we're all going to hope and assume that a
full off season for him will lead to good health
and just the mentality of getting back into the mix.
Ryan Kelly, and this is just as a fellow human,
I'm like six concussions, dude, Like I got zero faith
in that, and if he wants to play and continue
to play, those are decisions that I'm not a part
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of making.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But in the end, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Like I kind of like our draft pick, and I
think Will Fries has slowly ascended into being maybe the
most reliable offensive lineman in the group right now. Like
I'm not super high on the Minnesota Moving Company in
this moment.
Speaker 14 (22:08):
Yeah, And so you know, first to your point about
Brian O'Neill, I think his injuries are avoidable, you know,
like I think those can he can move on from those,
the concussions with or sorry, and then let me go
to darrisaw next.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
He got hurt with that Week eight.
Speaker 14 (22:25):
I think last year it's something like that Week nine
Thursday night game in the Rams. So, like I said,
eight or nine, he shouldn't have been back potentially the
way everybody's saying it's a twelve month injury until week
eight or nine of this season theoretically, because people are
saying Mahomes won't be back even next year because it's
so late in the season. If you're thinking he's going
to come back for Week fifteen or sixteen, he's not
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coming back right. So that's where darris Au Darisol came
back sooner than expected, like Adrian Peterson, but he's not
Adrian Peterson. He's carrying a lot more weight, you know,
just him walking around with that three hundred plus pound body, Like,
that's a lot on that knee. So whether there's additional swelling,
scar tissue, whatever, that's that. So we had to figure out,
like you said, a full off season and then come
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back next OTAs or training.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Can't where is he at?
Speaker 14 (23:11):
But with Kelly, yeah, like that's like that has nothing
to do with his ability that is one hundred percent.
His brain is just kind of like, dude, this might
be it for us, you know. And I'm not gonna
say specific things or Guardian caps or whatever, because there's
all kinds of conversations out there about that. The only
thing I've seen is Christian Darrisaw is wearing the Vices
(23:31):
trench helmet, and that's the new one from Vices the
Patrick Mahomes and then where the regular Vices Aaron Jones
wears the regular Devices, but then there's the Vices trench
that added that front protection. Okay, that's the only thing
I could see him jumping to next year if he
decides to come back. I don't know where he's at
now for him and what he's doing, and I'm meant
to look at that. But that's crazy, you know when
you think about all because a lot offensive lineman George
(23:52):
Kittle jump to it. That's the only other thing I
could see because the Guardian cap I don't really think.
I mean Romeo dubs. It didn't really work for him
per se. You know, he was still getting hit.
Speaker 18 (24:01):
Well.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I think the tough thing as you as you start
to stack these things is it's not like highlight slow motion.
Oh my goodness, how is his head still attached to
his neck? No? I mean there can be just random stuff,
innocuous contact of what would appear to be pretty soft.
Speaker 14 (24:17):
It's head to the ground. I mean anything head to
the ground and it's going to the ground. And that's
when you see these guys. But like see I think
they say like sixty to seventy percent of offensive line
and their hits are coming up front like because they're
doing it every every play. So that's the only other thing.
But other than that, yeah, it's like, what's what's in
the draft, you know, what's in the draft or center?
Is there any free agent centers out there? Because yeah,
the offensive Donovan Jackson I think played pretty well. We
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haven't said much about him and like any poor play
from him, right, so they and Fries. I think when
he's healthy, he's good. Darris all we know is good
when he's healthy. Yeah, I think O'Neill's fine. It comes
down to now like center, and then is JJ McCarthy
what is that going to look like?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
CJ? And Saint Paul CJ. Welcome to Vikings fan line.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Hi guys, thanks for taking my call. I guess my
you know my overall point. And then I have another
question is on offense. We were we're nervous, you know,
and we have the ball, you know what I mean.
I mean it takes you know, was it thirty five
seconds you know between plays or whatever the play cluck is,
(25:21):
But we like come out of the huddle at like hm,
you know what I mean, and now we change the
play and it doesn't matter if it's McCarthy or brosmur
or whatever, but you know, and we maybe snap it
at like fifteen, you know, because we have the ball
in the defense doesn't know what play we're going to
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run you know what I mean. Yeah, we just we
seem to run it down to we run it down
to like a half a second, and it doesn't doesn't
help our quarterback. Just we know the play, snap the
ball and run the play.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Okay, yeah, yea. I appreciate you calling in, CJ. I
would actually say, and there was a delay a game today.
I don't know if maybe that was part of the
reason CJ brought that up. That has been a consistent
thing that we've talked about. Just clearly, it's too busy
in the headset and these guys are breaking the huddle
with ten twelve seconds left, and now I'm asking the
kid to do all the pre snap work in that
limited time. I actually think that's been a lot better
(26:21):
the last few weeks. I don't know what you've seen.
I mean, there are always moments I saw. I did
see a couple plays earlier today where I'm like, hello, like,
would we like to continue running the offense here? One
of them results in a delay a game. But I
actually think that has improved. Yeah, snapping in a.
Speaker 14 (26:36):
Fifteen No, I would say no, But I do understand
a caller's point. But you probably do it's okay to
snap it around five to seven.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I think he may have meant breaking the huddle. Oh,
breaking the huddle of fifteen, okay, yeah, I think help.
So just about I think he's about to stab it.
Speaker 14 (26:51):
At fifteen because he said the defense doesn't know we're
doing we come to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I think just about every offense grinds that thing down because.
Speaker 14 (26:58):
You want to be able to So if you heard
like again, because the crowd was quiet, according to Jonathan Vilma,
so you could hear you're so mad in Vilma, you
could hear, you know, the offensive calls.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
He's not a great analyst. It just some of the stuff,
he says, I get it. It was a.
Speaker 14 (27:14):
Bad like it was a slow game, so you're trying
to feel dead air. But it just felt like some
of the chatter was unnecessary and wrong, so.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You wouldn't mind it, he said. He said he drew
up a play.
Speaker 14 (27:26):
And said this was the play they ran when Dallas
Turner had a sack. And so in my mind, I'm like,
Dallas Turner got a sack? When did he get a sack?
So you know, it's just like little stuff like that. Again,
I watched the game a little too close, so maybe
the fans didn't even notice that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
But I was like, he didn't get a sack. When
did he get a sack?
Speaker 14 (27:41):
But anyway, so going to the caller's point, though, you
hear the kill kill kill, you hear the can can can,
and then you hear okay, go go go, which means
we got to hurry out.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'm at three seconds. Let's just run what was.
Speaker 14 (27:51):
Called right there. It's it's a billet chick defense. So
that's what you know de Bowl was running. That's what
Floores kind of runs, which is I'm going to try
to mess with you up until you snap this ball.
That's where Jajon McCarthy and both Max Brosmer were trying
to can and switch to plays. Yeah, maybe come to
the line at fifteen seconds so you're not coming down
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to that three second deal one. But Jackson Dark had
a couple of delay games and false starts too because
of that, because he was getting down to that one
second mark and then the line was jumping because they
thought it was snapped or it was just a delay game.
So yeah, they but yeah, I think Kevin O'Connor did
take away from the early stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I think I think there's been great improvement there overall
in terms of breaking the huddles. That's where and then
you know, if you're putting people in motion, we're trying
to see if we got manner zone and just kind
of all that pre snap stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Don't hurry.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's been a lot better over the last few weeks,
with room to grow.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
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Speaker 11 (29:22):
After this year, it's going to be tough to imagine
keeping Addison, Naylor and Jefferson in a CAP league. I
know that point you move on from Addison, we signed
Naylor and try to draft a Wed receiver to replace him,
or do you think it's Felton or you say, hey,
we're gonna go to wide receivers helped craft some of
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the fifty six ground was injured and live more on
the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And Howard in Chicago, it's up to thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Howard.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yes, I've received ten of your text messages as well.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Welcome back. It's Vikings fan line.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Sixteen thirteen is the final it met life and the
Vikings now seven and eight winners are three straight. For
those talking about the draft, maybe they're frustrated that the
Vikings won today because the Vikings are now sitting and
I just go to NFL Tankathon if you ever heard
of that website. Ron, Yeah, they are now currently they're
currently fourteen in the draft as it sits now at
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seven and eight, so that slowly crept down the list
Vikings fans from. I think at one point I saw
him at ten or eleven, so a few spots in
the draft due to these victories, probably nine and eight.
Do you like the victories because you get to see
good things from your tenth overall selection a couple of
years ago, JJ McCarthy or is it truly all about
(30:47):
trying to thread that needle and get as high up
the drafts chart as you possibly can. That's up to
you to decide. I like seeing good things from the QB.
I'd like to see my QB staying on the field. Yeah,
hand injury negative, then he'll be evaluated. Nobody's fault tomorrow,
Monty and Wilmer Monty, welcome to the Vikings fan line.
Speaker 16 (31:09):
Hey, what's going on just a little bit of Carthy's development.
What I'm seeing is he's making throws now that he
did not make at the beginning of the season. They're
not flying ten feet over Jefferson's head, and they're not
coming up short or behind too often. But what's frustrating
with JJ right now is there's a lot of hard
(31:31):
things to do as quarterback. To me, he's not doing
the easy things like Ron you pointed out through that
screen pass in the dirt. I mean, that's that's an
easy one. Get the snap off before the play clock
runs out, that's an easy one. I want to touch
on the defense a little bit. Everybody talks about Flora's
getting another head coaching position. I'd like to pull the
(31:53):
Viking fans. It seems to me that Flores does more
with the defense with less injuries than O'Connell does more
with the offense with less Your thoughts like I kind
of like Laura's, you know, as being a head coach,
but with the vikings.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Thanks guys, thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
First of all, you can tell there's part of me
that says he'll be interviewed and they'll go through the process.
I just wonder how much this lawsuit and the and
the that actually.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Going to go through now.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
But but I think that as part of that, I
wonder how much that factors in into not ultimately being
a final candidate for another team.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Oh huge, These owners are friends, Like, you're suing.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
My buddy that I'm golfing with next week, Like like.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I would have to, and it will potentially require change
that I'm not even interested in dealing with.
Speaker 14 (32:47):
So when you saw a lot of the owners push
Snyder out right for the commanders, and they were sick
of him, Like whatever he was doing, they were sick
of it. They were sick of the culture, the womanizing,
all the stuff they heard about. They're like, all right,
let's get rid of them. They pulled that one, the
Carolina guy. Remember he did some weird Yeah, he did
some weird stuff in his office.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
He threw a drink on a fan. I think too.
He threw a drink on a fan.
Speaker 14 (33:07):
He also like he liked massages on his feet or
something like, you know, all kinds of weird stuff like that.
So the Panthers owner, Yeah, just look at out one
of the stuff he has some he has some stuff
in his office where he liked to get massages from like.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Red Ring but fetish.
Speaker 14 (33:23):
But so if the owners don't turn on the Dolphins owner,
there's not a chance that one of these owners are
gonna take that chance before unless there's an issue, Like
if there is an issue with the Dolphins, they'll be like,
who cares if you're suing the Dolphins, come be my
head coach, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
And I think that's what's gonna take.
Speaker 14 (33:39):
I think the Giants would have been a great landing
place if Belichick hadn't texted.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
The wrong Brian, like that created some drama.
Speaker 14 (33:46):
You know, like if if Belichick never texts Brian floor
as congratulations, He's like, is this wait, who is this?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
This black Brian and white Brian?
Speaker 14 (33:56):
This is black Brian, coach. Oh my bad, it's white
Brian that got the job. But if you had not
have done that, then the Giants probably would have bought
him in because he would be a great fit for
New York. When you talk about the big lights out there,
this defense that he has, it's another Belichick extension of
the defense.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, it's it's just gonna be. It has to be a.
Speaker 14 (34:15):
Team that doesn't care about the Dolphins to pull the
trigger because these guys are friends.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
On the other side of that, though he was, it
sounded like there was an insinuation that Flores would become
the head coach here.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, I don't think that that's not that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Uh to the text line, if you're the head coach,
what is the goal in these last few games?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Now?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Two of course Christmas Day and then a week from Sunday,
two weeks from today border battle? Is the focus just
on getting McCarthy more snaps? Are you trying to play
some backups to see what they are made of? Are
you already shopping for future vikings in the trade pool?
What do you do if you're if you're the head
coach ron, what is the what is what is the
massive a topic for you?
Speaker 14 (34:54):
A L l U m all up everything? You're trying
to do all of that, like you want to see
your quarterback. You want to see who's going to make
this roster, no T because it's just like b O
F f U M both of them. It's it's both
all of them, both of them. When you when you
think about that, yeah, Max knows when you think about that, right,
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it's it's it's the ability.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
To be.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
We are laughing, all right, I didn't know that.
Speaker 14 (35:26):
Yeah, both of them for people at home, just and
I think, but all of them for those it at home.
It's you want to do it all, but you have
to see because again, this season's over, right, we know that.
So it's signing guys the minute this season ends, you
(35:46):
gotta start scouring the earth for free agents of who
you want to bring you in for the off season.
You're looking at who you have. Is Isaiah Rodgers coming back?
You know, you know, can you afford to keep him?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It does?
Speaker 14 (35:59):
He He did a great out today, you know, playing
that that deep third and broke up that pass on
what's his name the dude from uh it was no
Wandale Moore or Wandale Robindale Robinson. You know, that's that's
what you do. So you have to do it all.
But you only have two games left to do it.
I think the a topic is JJ McCarthy. If he
can go, you gotta let him keep going because you
gotta build on this shoulder head toes, pure progression stuff
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that you're trying to get out of the.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Last two and a half games have given me a
ton of optimism. Yeah oh yeah, but now the hand
is the anvil that crushes all of that.
Speaker 14 (36:32):
It's like chasing o is at the Wiley coyote, chasing
the road runner, like yeah, you eventually are there and then.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Boom, there's it's it's you're done. All right, let's let's
do this.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
We're gonna we're gonna say goodbye to the Greater Vikings
Audio Network and then continue on We're not done quite
yet again. A few more segments truncated as they are.
A fan line leading you up to pregame and puck
drop the Minnesota Wild hosting the Colorado Avalanche Grand Casino Arena.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
The Vikings win today six Team thirteen.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
We're gonna watch for this injury with JJ McCarthy's hand
X rays.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
We're negative.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
He'll be evaluated tomorrow, gets more intel throughout the week.
Hopefully he can go, because it's a Christmas Day affair.
The Vikings are hosting the Detroit Lions Christmas Day in
the afternoon, and that's the next time we're going to
chime in for you the boom. I believe it's a
three thirty game and I'm just shooting straight from the
hip here. The Vikings and the kiddies will be three
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thirty afternoon on Christmas thanks to Max Fuller, thanks to
Ron Johnson, Imnordo will continue one under point three FM,
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Speaker 3 (37:40):
We'll check back in on Christmas. Have an awesome Sunday evening.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
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Welcome to Vikings Fanline. I am Nordo from nine to noon.
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Ron Johnson is with me Max Fuller here as well.
Vikings wins sixteen thirteen at the New York Giants. Today
they improved to seven and eight. They've won three and
three straight. Now news out of the game. You get
to get a little love to Justin Jefferson today six
at his eighty five yards for him, a rushing touchdown
by JJ McCarthy. Sadly a hand injury for JJ McCarthy
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as well, but the defense just tee and off at
times on Jackson dart All part of the victory calls,
text talkbacks, few truncated segments leading you up to Wild
Hockey Wild hosting the AVS massive Central Division collision on
the ice. We're looking forward to that puck trap shortly
after five pm. I let's jump to the phone lines.
Hammy in Rochester, Hammy, welcome to Vikings fan Line.
Speaker 10 (39:30):
Hey, how are you guys? Happy holidays? But anyway, what
I want to get to it's not the game. It's
about the roster and what is going on. We have
three years of failed drafts. We have no you know,
talented depth at all. I mean it, you can't. The
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equation is to build a team through free agency with
the other end a failure. You can't sustain it. I mean,
I've been watching this team and I cried after Super
Bowl four. I mean, I'm that old. I'll be sixty
five in May. And you know what, I hope you
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guys have heard of a man called Jim Finks. Jim
Finks built the nineteen seventy Vikings drafted foreman I mean
Ed White Ron here, I mean Gene Washington, Clint Jones,
Allan Page, etc. You know where he went from. Then
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he went to Chicago and he built the eighty five Bears.
Now that is a general manager. And I'm just saying,
you know, I know I'm old, but you know what
it is? What it is?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
All right? Early birthday.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
By the way, I don't know if I'll talk to
you before next May. Happy sixty fifth Finks or anybody else.
All the way through Spielman and now quasidol Fa mensa
Ron depth is is a part of the conversation, not
necessarily you know, one hundred percent in the draft season yet.
But that goes whether it's into the O line conversation
that we're talking about Harrison Smith about, it's it's it's
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incidental contact to the.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Helmet, it's the world we live in now. Disappointed.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I think that would have been his twenty first and
a half sack of his career that was taken away
because of the Russian roughing the passer.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Safety is a spot that lacks depth at this particular point.
Depth at the corner spot could be discussed as well.
I got to give it to Hammy in Rochester. He's
dead on from from a depth standpoint. We talked about
it with the old line just a couple segments ago. It's,
you know, places that we may have felt confident in
into the season or even recently. But as this thing
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winds down, there are a ton of things on the
to do list for the general manager at this point.
Depth is a massive part of that.
Speaker 14 (42:03):
Yeah, and so when you talk about the I forgot
was the first caller. Maybe they said we should have
an additional group of people they go eighteen games.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I think that's part of it.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Right.
Speaker 14 (42:13):
Some people have said eighty players, eighty players, eighteen weeks.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
If that's the route you go.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Well, but that doesn't address the talent issue to say, oh,
if you get eighty players, you can have ninety.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
So if you get eighty players, where are these additional.
Speaker 14 (42:32):
Like where's the cause is there? Because that's my question
right now. Either one is it a dollars thing? So
then let's go to eighty and also increase these billionaires
to be able to pay more because you're saying, oh,
I can't afford this guy because I don't have this cap.
Baseball doesn't have a cap. I'm not saying football should
not have a cap, but maybe it's just so low
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that you're having to pay for these younger, inexperienced players,
or you're having because like if we look at the
free agent list right now.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Well, no, that's it's because we haven't drafted effectively. That
could be part.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
You're focused on the dollars, I am, but the team
has to spend. There's been some guns, and everyone has
to spend the same amount of dollars. They have the
same amount of money to spend and they get to
allocated however they see fit. Our particular team has to
spend more via free agency because we are not effective
in the draft.
Speaker 14 (43:21):
True, but if we were the Cardinals, if we were
the I can go down the list of teams right now, Saints,
Like if we were doing the Saints fan line, Cardinals
fan I guarantee I.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Think they've won three or four straight.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
It might be fun Tyler Tyler shuck, Tyler Shuck, but
I think they would be.
Speaker 14 (43:36):
Saying the same thing about some of their draft picks,
you know, like how many have worked out for those teams,
you know, and where they're drafting, Like I get Will Johnson,
Marvin Harrison all this stuff in their three win team,
you know, like it's it's it's more to it with
the chemistry and end guys and bringing them in. I
do agree you have to draft better because I think
somebody I forgot which draft class it was, but Spilman
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has some tankers too, Like if you go back to
the was a Keller Kellen Mond?
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Is anybody from that draft all the round? Like I
think maybe one guy, one or two guys like, oh okay,
so let me see Kellen Mond it was?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
That was a big ten offensive line Die Wyatt, Uh Wyatt, what.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
You're talking about? It was Troy Die though I think
he was in that group.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
But there was an Ohio. There was a big ten
offensive lineman of the year. As part of that, we
drafted four guys. Chaz Surrat may have been in that
mix as well. It was the four greatest third round
picks in the history of the NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, twenty twenty one, that was the one.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
And do you have those names in front of you?
I think so, Minnesota Vikes, Kellen Mont third round picks. Okay,
I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to Q and
cuon Rapids. Here, Q and Coon Rapids. Welcome to Vikings
fan line.
Speaker 10 (44:51):
What's he going on?
Speaker 19 (44:52):
Guy?
Speaker 10 (44:54):
How you doing?
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Run?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Really well? Man?
Speaker 19 (44:58):
I want to give a couple of shout outs real quick.
Shout out to kpe Man keeping me entertained throughout all
times of my day.
Speaker 10 (45:05):
I'm on the road so much it's crazy.
Speaker 19 (45:08):
Shout out to you guys. This fanline stuff is tough.
And the last one shout out to Rex Ryan. Don't
fetishes or what it's about. Don't kink shame. Now I'm
gona get to my point. I don't know. Some people's
love language are words of affirmation, and I got some
for you about our young quarterback. I'm not really worried
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about anything that I've been seeing because I know that playing.
Speaker 10 (45:36):
Quarterback is hard to do.
Speaker 19 (45:37):
We've been seeing improvements. The one thing that I am
concerned about is how he kind of is paper machine man. Yeah,
Joe Burrow is sick. Right, He's super nice, but he's
injured so much so if JJ were able to just
play good every time he's in and put up like
all Star numbers but only play put up pro bow numbers,
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but only play six games a year, does that make
everybody happy?
Speaker 5 (46:04):
No?
Speaker 19 (46:04):
I don't think that it would. I like what I've
been seeing. I'm not upset we can't win fourteen games
every year. I feel good goal fights.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Let's go appreciate it. Que Merry Christmas to you. Uh yes,
that that is that. That's where my head's at, as
well as is maybe many Vikings fans is. In addition
is okay. I'm worried about the growth. I'm starting to
see the growth. I just saw two and a half
games worth of tape. That tells me I think the
kids starting to get it. Things are starting to slow
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down for him. That's super cool. The hand injury, his
availability is becoming, maybe at this stage, more problematic than
even his base ability. Yeah so I uh so, so
I'm with you, q man. There are things to be
positive and optimistic about. When it comes to McCarthy, I.
Speaker 14 (46:51):
Will give you the quick draft you you're right, Wyatt Davis, Why,
Patrick Jones.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Patrick Jones, Kelen mon Knawan cambine him, but he's not here.
Speaker 14 (47:02):
Jennarius Robinson, Amir Smith, Marsett, Zach Davidson, and Jalen Twineman.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
So and Christian Darrisol was the first one. So that
one worked out o.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Jalen Twineman was the He had the baby face from
Pitt from Pitt. Yeah, and he honestly looked like he
was seven years old, built like a bowling ball. Didn't
work out for him, the sixth round draft pick. We're
gonna pause truncated segments. As I mentioned when we returned,
You're gonna get your Chevy Dealer's drive of the game,
and we're working our way towards a different kind of game.
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The Minnesota Wild hosting the Colorado Avalanche Buck Drop shortly
after five.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Right here on the fan, We'll be.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Back thanks to our local Chevy Dealers drive of the
game sixteen thirteen.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
It's Vikings fan line, Minnesota Vikings win sixteen thirteen, and
while it's the drive that actually resulted in a touchdown
for your favorite team, sounded like this.
Speaker 18 (47:58):
McCarthy's out of the shotgun, George Addison in motion to
the left. McCarthy back to pass, big rush by the Giants,
JJ gets out of it, runs right, fifteen to ten
to five to the end zone.
Speaker 10 (48:08):
Touchdown. Peace.
Speaker 18 (48:11):
JJ McCarthy with his fourth rushing touchdown that came from
twelve yards out and Minnesota Leeds twelve.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Three turning picks into points. Murphy Junior with the interception
short field McCarthy into the end zone.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Seven points for the good guys.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
All part of a game that ended sixteen thirteen in
favor of your favorite team. We will pause, put a
rap on this thing around the corner. Final segment. Vikings
fan line is next.
Speaker 10 (48:40):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (48:41):
I don't understand how we're saying we're seeing growth from
the kid. We're playing some of the worst defenses in
the league and we're giving it like he's playing the
Eagles of the Patriots or these crazy defenses.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
He's not.
Speaker 12 (48:54):
He's playing trust defenses and he's playing good, great, Well,
what happens when he can't stay in the field? What
happens when he can't play a good defense? Like we
need a new quarterback first? Can't win a super Bowl
with a crappy quarterback? Only the Ravens kind of no one.
I'm ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Talkback machine free, iHeart radio app. You acknowledge he's playing good?
What can't what happens when he can't stay on the field.
That's the point via the talkback, and I appreciate the
talk back and the perspective. I don't see, as you said,
I don't understand how we're seeing growth from the kid.
I don't see how you can pragmatically look at the
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last games, the last three games, and say that you're
not seeing growth.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
So is it just is it Stubborn didn't want the kid?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
You wanted Donald and so you're almost willing yourself into
this idea. You're rooting for him to fail in some
ways so that you can be validated or vindicated in
your idea. I don't know, he isn't good enough to
win a Super Bowl right now. Absolutely not, and that
I will agree with you. That needs to improve. He
needs to stay on the field to and so that's
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where I'm at, not trying to pretend he's playing the
eighty five Bears every week. He has looked markedly better
the last three games. There is measurable improvement to what
you're seeing from JJ McCarthy. So but you're right, we
can't win a Super Bowl with what we're seeing out
there on the field right now, no doubt about that.
You and I are in lockstep part of the process
drafting a kid, raising him needs to be better and
(50:24):
needs to be on the field to get better his
hand injury. It's troublesome. This is now, I believe is
what have we got here? I saw I a text.
Speaker 8 (50:32):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Name the McCarthy injuries in order and win a fifty
dollars gift card to o'connellcare dot org. Thanks for the texts.
The fact of the matter is he needs to stay
on the field. He needs to get better from the
knee a year ago to now, the ankle, the concussion
and the hand today. That is a problem that needs
to be rectified. But if we get to see him
on Christmas. Ron, that's gonna be cool, right.
Speaker 14 (50:55):
Definitely will be I mean, is Christmas football. We get
to do the fan line. I'm gonna have my oor
out if something crazy happens. Absoluteliness. Good to see you, Ron,
Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Vikings win sixteen thirteen and improved to seven and eight
live in local tomorrow starting with the Power Trip at
five thirty am, nine to noon. We'll be pumping it up.
I got some drive buys in the email inbox. We're
gonna have some fun with it. Thanks to Max Fuller
for producing, and again Christmas Day by Merry Christmas people, Absolutely,
Merry Christmas, everybody. Pregame around one thirty on the Flagship,
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two thirty on the Network, kickoff shortly after three point
thirty Fan line with Ron and I hopefully calling a
victory over the kiddies.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
It's been Vikings fan line.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
But next the Minnesota Wild hosting the Colorado Avalanche at
Grand Casino Arena. We are your home for Vikings football
and your home for Wild hockey.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Puck drop just minutes away right here on the fan.
Let's go Wild. Have a great night.
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