November 24, 2025 • 41 mins
Pete Bercich kicks off the hour with some opinions on the 4-7 football team, then hear from Edina's Chase Bjorgaard after his historic & title winning prep bowl performance, and then PJ Fleck makes his weekly appearance!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Healing.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Pete Versage, analyst for the KFA in Minnesota. Vikings Audio Network,
joins us now at Pete Bursage via x and this
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Pete the kid quarterback, I think is carrying the weight
of the world and the burden of the losses. I'm
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hoping Lambeau was the bottom physically and mentally for him,
and maybe it's all up from here.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I think you and everybody else, you and I and
everybody else is feeling the same way.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I mean that what else? What else are we going
to do? Right?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What else can you do? You made this commitment, You've
got to see through it, right. You've got to lean
on those that know, because as much as we all know,
even though we've seen a lot of football, we don't
know everything. We're not quarterback ruse, we're not coordinators, we're
not coaches in the NFL. And you know, you have
to have faith in those positions and that in what
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they're saying, and that they see the potential. They they
saw enough to draft them, they see they then they're
still seeing it and they're working and each and every
day trying to get to where the Vikings want to
be and where they need to be. And that's what else.
I mean, really, what else can you do other than
get back out there. I mean, that's this is a game.
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This is a kind of situation where if you're if
you're a player, you want to get back on the.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Field as quickly as possible because you.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Just want to get that bad taste out of your mouth,
the whole thing, and you know, the whole thing yesterday
and start fresh.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Uh Ohconnle said after the game, the team's margin for
airs razor thin, and I think we would happen to
agree with that, So yeah, I would imagine that means
when you have when you have that punt return l
and they score and open a seventeen to six lead,
that might be the whole enchilada. I mean, the way
with the razor thin margin and the way things are
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going right now.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Right absolutely puts it puts pressure on every other position.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I mean, think about it.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
How many postgame press conferences have you heard with a
quarterback saying, well, you know, the defense really bailed us
out this game, or quarterback that says, you know, my
wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Has really bailed me out today.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It happens, right, Different parts of the team play and
have good days to help elevate the others. That's the
whole point of the teams, that's the whole point of
the of the team sport. And when you have a
specific area and it's a key position, it's not just
the tight end position where you're young, or the offensive line.
I mean your core turnback is young. Yeah, the rest
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of the team has to elevate themselves to make up
to keep competitive, to keep winning. And it's a very
difficult thing to do. And the more prolonged it is,
and the more prolonged that pressure is, the you know,
the harder, the harder and harder it gets. I mean,
the defense yesterday played pretty well. You look at the numbers.
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The Packers were well under their average on offense, but
it wasn't enough despite being put on the field and
on the you know it was it the five yard
line or wherever the muff punt ended up being outside
of that, you give up sixteen points. That's usually winning football, right,
and so that has to continue. You can't afford it.
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You can't afford penalties. They are drive killers. You can't
afford turnovers. I mean, you're right, the margin of error
really gets thin. And the problem there, or the challenge there,
is you can't play up tight. You can't play not
to lose, you can't play not to make a mistake.
And it's a balancing act and it's not a fun
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position to be in.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
In a paramutual puzzler. To a certain extent, we had
some listeners hit the six four six eight six the
text line and say, is it possible to have a
Pete Bursage analyze this talk back? And we've got a
few of those, so we're like, yeah, we could do that.
He's an e laitue football mind, played in the league,
coach in the league, as I've been the audio network
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analyst since two thousand and seven. So here's the.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
First Hey guys, nice remedian.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I'm not even gonna talk about the offense because everybody
knows it's absolutely futrid.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But I want to talk about the defense.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I'm sick of people worshiping Bflow like he is God
on Earth and the next head coaching job he's gonna get,
he's gonna win the Super Bowl with Our defense is
fifth worst in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I know what it has to do.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
With the offense and then keeping the defense on the
field the whole game. But the defense isn't helping the
offense out either. We don't turn the ball over, you
don't get stops. Our special teams isn't great. The defense
is not good.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Sorry bye. What do you think, Pete? Well?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
In the yards per game basis, we're tied it going
into this game. We're gonna be better off because we
we only gave up with two hundred and forty five yards.
We're tenth in the league in yards, ninth per play
against the run twenty second, but we're fourteenth per play past.
We're seventh overall per play twenty one. Sack rate, we're sixth.
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It's the interception rate. We were number one last year.
Now we're down to twenty eighth. We were ninth in
the league on third down going into yesterday. So it's like,
here's the thing in nothing's ever as good as it seems,
nothing's ever as bad as it seems, and somewhere in
between reality lies. I mean, you know B Flow, I
mean Bflow gets a lot of attention because what he
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does is unique, and what he does is different, and
that that brings a lot of attention, the amount of
blitzing and all that. But the defense, I mean, they've
played well, they're playing good, and they're playing well enough
to win football games. Right look at the Bears defense.
Look at the numbers on the Bears defense. Outside of
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them cranking out turnovers at at an unbelievable rate, they
were in the you know, high twenties in most of
these categories. Overall, they couldn't get to the quarterback without blitzing.
I mean, they have no format pass rush. So yeah,
I mean, I just stay off social media, man, because
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it's what you get, right, you get all everybody's no one's.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
In the reality world.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Everybody's either on one polar end or the other polar
opposite end, right either either you know, everyone thinks McCarthy's
gonna do it, he's gonna be great, or get rid
of him. Right, there's nobody in between, and unfortunately, realities
in between. But that doesn't get people to click on
tweets or you know, look at Instagram, you know stories.
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So unfortunately, that's that's where we are, right. We're somewhere
in between that and defensively, you know we're not We're
not paying a ton of money for everybody. So you know,
finding Isaiah Rodgers, I mean, come on, I mean that's
still you know what I mean, you signed him. Everybody
was like, okay, that's your first day signing.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
All right.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Well, Rodgers has been pretty damn good. So there's a
lot of wins on the defensive side of football, Levi,
Drake Rodriguez, you know, just we can go on and on,
but Turner's starting to turn the corner.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, the the thirty seven and a half minutes to
twenty two and a half minutes time of possession, Yeah,
that's going to make anybody tired.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And then that's been.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Think Paul, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but think about this.
We've turned the ball over twenty times, right, twenty one
twenty one Okay, So assuming that once the ball's turned over,
the opposing offense will have the ball for at least
three plays, that's sixty six plays right there. That's an
entire game. That's a game sixty six plays, right So yeah,
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they're out there on the field. They're out there on
the field a little bit, a little bit more than
the offense.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Nordo talkback. Hey, it's Richard from Rochester.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Hey, it seems like the best coaches can design their
game plans around what their players can do. And we
think that KOs is a good coach. Is at this point,
is he doing enough to design a game plant around
what McCarthy can do or has he already done that
as much as he can and McCarthy's not capable of
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executing that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
That's an interesting question. Yeah, it's it's a very good one.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You know this, Paul, this is not the offense that
we've seen here for the last three years.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's not It's not the down the field.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Clears and digs and deep crossover deep crosses in the
play action passing game, right. I mean, we're seeing some
of it, but it's not as heavy. I mean, Kirk Cousins,
that was his you know, Darnold when he was here,
that's what they did. Play action passing was the rating
was was unbelievably high. We were very, very good. Yeah,
this schematically, and you know your philosophy, it's it's not
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it's been changed. It's been changed quite a bit. And
that's the ebb and flow that you're seeing is all right,
we're going to change this. We're going to do this
and hopefully the kid can handle it, and then for
some one reason here or there he is or he isn't.
So you tweak and you go. And that's the process
right now. Is it fun?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
No? Does some of it not work? Of course it's
not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Because your your identity as an offense has completely changed
because you're trying to accommodate the young quarterback whom you
have a ton of faith in whom you drafted. So
you made that decision when that happened, when you drafted him,
and now you've got to meet him in the middle somewhere,
and that's the process. But this offense definitely has an
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identity and it's it's explosive, it's aggressive, it's quarterback heavy.
We we we said this, We've been saying this for years.
With the amount I mean, with the amount that the
quarterback has to handle, right we all remember Kirk Cousins
with the quarterback bit where he's driving in the car
listening to the listening to the plays, and I mean,
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it demands a lot out of that position, and it's
it's not something that's going to get done overnight.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So here we are, this is where we're going.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And now you guess we can sit back and watch
it develop and you know, thank goodness, Uh, you're not
the one that has to make all the decisions, right, Hey.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
This is it's a tough it's a tough situation.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Since lastly, since we departed, since we split yesterday and
and I came back with the team and you drove back.
I've just been wondering this. How was the drive from
Green Bay to Minnesota? And did you listen to Packers
fan line?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No? No, I actually got to listen to some I'm
our fan line. I gotta you know, we got a
way that we can do that. So that was that
was pretty interesting. The one part that stot to me
was just when when Ive and Pace ran off the field. Yeah,
you just assumed that there were twelve guys on the field,
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but in reality there were only eleven, right, and so
but there was a flag thrown, was there not? And
I can't remember what the flag was for unless that's
what they picked it up. And they said they counted
wrong as well. But what that whole thing was, that
whole thing was a disaster.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But yeah, it was. It was good.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Now I was starting to see deer all over the
place on the side of the road and everything, but
I didn't see any So.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, the carnage. The carnage was purple and gold. It
was not that of deer or poor fawns or anything.
So did you I know you're a fan of Metallica.
Did you listen to Metallica on said drive? And if so,
were the choices fade to black? And uh? To live
is to die?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I you know what I did is I open up
YouTube and watched some some inspirational stuff. I watched a
documentary on the on the Titanic's Nelson Apoll thirteen.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Holy cow. So yeah, I think it's I think it's bad. Now,
well you know it could be worse. All right, Well,
I'll see you out there this week. And sounds good.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
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Speaker 1 (12:35):
Thank you very much, Pete.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
All right, Pa, we have some father son fun coming
up around the corner. It involves the six A state
high school football championship. This is nine to now, ladies
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and gentlemen, we have Minnesota high school football immortality in studio.
This would have to be one of the great performances
in the history of Minnesota high school football at any circumstance,
non conference, conference, state title, postseason, section finals, whatever. We're
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talking about six touchdowns and three hundred and fifty one
total yards. One of the tds sounded like this make
out lethodic orgst drive.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Pre guard left side spins nice moving to this catch
the outside. He's the midfield, he's a fort He's gonna
blocker and fun on the side. It's a foot race
down that sideline and pure guard has done it again.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
First, we welcome into the studio the ber guard, about
whom you just heard. Chase be your guard from me
Dinah High School with six touchdowns, three hundred and fifty
one total yards, a bunch of great teammates and a
bunch of wonderful memories and a state high school championship
is in studio with us and some of the with
whom those who listened to the show frequently are familiar
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dear friend of mine, somebody I've known for quite some time,
and the general manager of Metropolitan Ford, Eric Bejorguard, who
is Chase's dad.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
They're both here and at.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Least Nordo and I can do is get both you
guys Covenant class. I mean specifically for the kid because
he executed the toil, but I mean, you know, we
got Dad in the equation too, with you know, previously
owned rides, and then we got mass going on in
studio right now. This is such a great moment for
the listening audience because the general manager just may be
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so tickled with what transpired on Friday night he may say,
I bleep it. Eleventh caller, free f one fifty, no idea,
what's going to happen? What of evy that may have
been brought up in the stands that night? Chase, how
are you, buddy? Good? Good to see you. Congratulations on
the state title, my ma'am. Now, first, Eric, as a dad,
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what was like watching one of the greatest performances in
the history of Minnesota high school football and at your son?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
You know, you just can't even make it up. It's uh,
if you went into that game and asked me that question,
and my answer wouldn't have been anywhere near what he
actually did.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, it was. It was things of dreams. It was
it was super fun.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I don't think of all the e Dinah, I still
hasn't come down from it because the whole city was there. Wow,
most of the city party with me afterwards. It was
it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Did you what are we opening the dealership at twelve
thirty in the morning. At midnight, I six touchdowns and
ninety nine bottles of beer on the wall.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I feel a little like Al Bundy. I used to
think I had cool sports stories.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I got nothing. Chase.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
First of all, congratulations brother, thank you. But it's just
it's it's hard for me to look at you right now.
I've known you since you were in middle school, and
you haven't always been this big, and you haven't always
been this sturdy. And I was talking to Ben Lieber,
who lives in the Dinah actually day after the game,
and then this this trip that we took the Lambeau
about your your your size, and like, I mean, you're
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you're how old are you?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Eighteen seventeen, seventeen?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Okay, so you're going to grow, You're going to mature,
your body's naturally going to develop. But like when it
comes to physically crafting yourself for a football season, then
a hockey season is baseball still in the mix?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Baseball still in the mixing.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
So we're gonna go hockey than baseball, right then we're done,
all right, Like, uh, if we have any Billies Johnny's, Christy, SUSY's, Tamika's,
Antoine's listening right now, like what did you what did
you do to become as sturdy as you've become or
or did it just happen?
Speaker 8 (16:40):
I think part of it's just, you know, always playing sports,
you know, you develop a lot of different muscles doing
each each and every sport.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And then also big fan of bacon, advocate of bacon.
So really yeah, makes that a plug. Froe of my
guys at work, he textedents.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
And make sure he gets gets some a shout out.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Of his bacon. See, I told you we'd be getting
some plugs in here.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
We've got a general manager and a car dealership in
studio A.
Speaker 9 (17:05):
Here's a hook in an angle, you know, you those
those three sports that you play, Chase, there's a conversation
for us on the outside. That's great that when you
see highly touted athletes as they get through the ranks
of their youth, there's this tendency or a push wherever
that push comes from. Got to play one sport. You're
gonna be awesome at one particular sport. You're going to
eat sleep, drink that thing with a side of bacon, bacon,
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and we'll see where it falls. You clearly, it's always
been it. I'm just guessing. I guess. I just I've
been talking to you for thirty seconds that it's always
been important that you played the multiple sports, that you
stayed active in baseball, hockey, and football.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Right, Yeah, you know that's really important for me.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
But also I think it's like a little bit of
responsibility for my like I'd be there for my teammates too,
just because I feel like if I leave one then
I'll be letting those guys down, and you know, I
just really don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So, yeah, does Eric, does every member of the Dina
High School offensive line get a free pre obviously owned
for Metropolitan Ford?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
You know, let we work out something there, but they
come with a little bit of payments, but yeah, we
you know, I've talked to quite a few people that
need ride.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So yeah, and you know, now knowing how the time
of possession in the game went where you know, I
was at something called fashion Fest in Minneapolis Friday night,
didn't get back to like eight fifteen, eight thirty. So
I missed the first half and I didn't look back
at the at the box score. So I was just
kind of under the assumption with the way things were
going late, with all due respect to Chase and the
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offensive line and the play calls and everything, that like, okay,
well the more heads tired and got some arm tackles here.
You know, they're not really like two rams meeting in
the prairie head on So I just I didn't and
but it was two to one time of possession for them.
So so the your offensive line, man, and I'm sorry,
I don't know any of the names you're walking to
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mention all of them? How awesome were they for you?
Not only Friday night but during the course of the season.
And because that right there pays away for everything.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Man, Yeah, I mean unreal for sure, completely new online
this year, Like our coaches did a great job getting
them ready. We got one kid that came from defense
that's gonna go to iowas Solasier shures Kim, and then
you know, everyone else has worked their butt off the
whole year to get to where they did in that game.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And yeah, I couldn't be more proud of them.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So the so eric the pro team losing a Lambeau
didn't harsh the mellow Friday night.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I think it'd be impossible.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
I've I've spent so much time with the with all
the football dads, the captain dads, like I think we
got together, well five times this weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
We've watched the game back. That's great.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
We talked about every inch of the game. You watched
it back. Oh well, I might watch out one hundred times.
This is fantastic. Texted with the dads and I was like,
I think, I think I gotta get a life.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Like I've watched it back twice. This was like yesterday morning.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
I've watched it back twice and I watched all the
highlights like it's everywhere, like it's all, It's all I
could do.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And all the other dads are like the same, same, right, same, Okay,
So so let's go back in time for second.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Because you know when you were a sophomore, Chase, I
didn't talk to you about this, and it was the
elephant in the room in your football life.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But I talked to your dad about it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Because I'm watching the game, I'm pulling for you because
of your dad, and subsequently, I guess I'm pulling for
the team, and so I can't remember the exact circumstances,
but you got the final carry of the game in
the state championship game?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Was it against Centennial? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, So had you played running back a lot in
that game as a sophomore, I don't believe you had?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Correct No, Yeah, no, I didn't play the whole year
pretty much.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Okay, there we go. Yeah, Now he was at linebacker.
I think that was the fifth area of the year
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And all of a sudden, big boys in the game
and the whole thing is on the line. You take
the carry, you search for the end zone to win
the state title, and you come up a little short.
So from when when it comes to something we've actually
talked about earlier in the show with the Vikings quarterback
and go through adversity, is that a moment that you'll
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never forget despite the six and three point fifty one
in the state title in the senior year. I mean,
because you know I, I you know, your dad's happy,
go lucky man. So it's it's not like I'm sure
Eric was more down about the moment than maybe you
let me know, but that was that was just a
tough moment right there.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Granted it's two years ago, but that's still something that
like you'll never forget and probably fueled you as you
move forward, right.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
I mean I'll literally be up like a year later,
like summer Nights is thinking about it and it was
super tough. But at the same time, yeah, we say,
hungry dogs run faster, So you know, I think that
really helped me, you know, throughout the workouts and last
season and through all the training and hard practices, you know,
just trying to get back there to the championship game
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and then you know, to have that performance.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I did mean a whole lot for me. Hmmm, Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's the voice of Chase Beorguard, a senior edi Dynah
High School with a football, hockey, and baseball and his father,
Eric bureguard general manager Metropolitan Ford, a staple nine to noon,
specifically on Mondays for many years. Likewise for the Allen family,
as my son Derek has driven two cars for Metropolitan Ford,
I've had two cars from Metropolitan Ford. Likewise, for my daughter,
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she's had one Eric Salt of the Earth and His
son Chase, had six touchdowns on Friday night in winning
the six to a championship over Morehead, and Chase is
a goalie for the DYNA High school hockey team. His
teammate Mason West was the title winning quarterback. Are you
guys close? And was it emotional for not only you
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two but for all the guys knowing even though you'll
probably play hockey and baseball together with a fair amount
of them, but that was your last high school football game.
So I mean, I'm not trying to harsh mellow here,
like bring you down from the apex of this accomplishment.
But still, in age seventeen, man, excellent relationships have been
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forged through football. There probably is a little bit of sadness, right.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
I mean, yeah, for sure. I think going out on
top though it kind of, you know, made that a
little bit different. And then but yeah, for sure it's
gonna be weird going to the ring today instead of
the field. I think that's when it's going to start
to set in a little bit. But I mean, for now,
just because we went out with the championship, I think
that it really kind of, you know, canceled out the
whole sadness about it being my last.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Game and Mason West a Chicago Blackhawks draft pick, like
twenty third or twenty fifth something like that. You know,
I would imagine that there were conversations, certainly not asking
you to speak for him or his family, but if
with what you do know and can share, it's like,
he's really good at hockey, We're going to draft him. Hey,
is there any chance that, like after your junior year,
you can just go full throttle in this program juniors
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or whatever it would be next and correct me if
I'm wrong here, but it's like, nah, we get unfinished
business here with this football team and other sports. Maybe
so Mason came back, gave you the full season. Now,
maybe he's gonna ready for Idana hockey. Maybe not, But nevertheless,
I thought it was really cool that members of the
Chicago Blackhawks front office, general manager, assistant general manager, the
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whole bit man would come to town to support that kid,
support him in a way where it's like, yes, we
would love to have you, now, get you in our
wait strength program, the whole thing, but we understand where
you're coming from with your dogs and with your friends
and everything. And he died in high school, so they acquiesced,
they still took him, but like they came to Metropolitan
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Ford I think on a Saturday and like had hot
dogs and drinks and things like that, just celebrating everything
that was happening. That's just really really cool they did that. Yeah,
it's a very unique situation. Obviously we haven't had anything
like this before.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
But to tell you a little bit about Mason, like
he told all of the NHL like he was coming
back before the draft so he could hurt your draft stock.
He said, I'm coming back to play my senior year
of football. And for that, I think every Canada team
took him off their draft board.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wow. They just said, well, then you're not serious about hockey.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
He's like, well, no, I'm serious about winning a state
championship with my boys, and then hockey will be there. Like, well,
after the dust settles, hockey will still be there. Mason
West and his family is just unbelievable people, the the
nicest people on the face of the planet.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's great.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Speaking of that, I mean you mentioned going to the
rink today. How long do you continue to revel or
relish in this moment state title, state champions before you
turn It's like I mean, we might as well just
go win a state hockey title too, now, I mean,
you just get together with Mason and the guys. Right,
when do you make that mental shift, Chase.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
I mean, it's definitely gonna be tough, but it might
even have to start today like a little bit. I mean,
it's gonna be tough to come back down from the
high winning the championship, but it's almost like you gotta
find a time to refocus and locking on hockey. But
you know, in the back of my mind, I always
be thinking about that football season for.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Sure, So I would imagine the Moorhead hockey team's good.
I mean I think there's a col in that plays
for him, Matt cullin Son. Yeah, and they beat you
guys in the championship last year, right yep? Okay, it
wasn't the championship. It was the Semis and the Semis. Okay, Well,
it Chase cover yours places. You don't need to be
here and this is seventeen uh. With the football part
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of it, did people at the bank cut loose with
the cake eater's bit and or get after the hornets
like they did in the state high school hockey tournament
last year. Is that is that actually still a thing?
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Oh, that's a thing. But they didn't win, so it's hard.
It's hard to get honest as much when you lose.
But their their hockey team beat our hockey team six
to three.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Nice.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Saw some tiktoks out there already. They make a big
deal every time they beat us.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's something.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
They're they're a big rival. They're they're a great program.
Their hockey is always good. On how many kids calling
can have in his basement that can still play for him.
But they're they're they're great. They went a lot and
their football team was unbelievable. They were I mean, talk
about the talent. All their kids are going to come back.
They get their their quarterback Feenie, he's a stud.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He'll be back. He's a junior. Their running back was
a junior.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Their quarterback was nice when they broke the pocket and
set his feet and got his eyes down the field.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Pretty good.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Yeah, that number one for them. David Mack I think
he is he can go pretty much anywhere he wants.
He was he's an absolute study. He had like one
hundred and I think he had more catches than the
next closest kid.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
By like twenty or thirty in the whole state. Wow,
just sick, silly, were really good. Who Chase, and I
apologize for not knowing this. Who was the din of
football coach? And how impactful has he been to you?
That's Jason Potts. I mean even in middle school he
was my gym teacher, so I've been knowing him for
a while.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
I remember specifically in like seventh grade, he was like,
kind of I want to see this kid got So
we're like playing football out there at like during gym class,
and you like pull me on his team and had
me run some routes while he's played like all time quarterbacks.
So I guess that was kind of my first try out.
So yeah, he's meant a lot to me. Kind of
throw my high school and middle school career for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So due to some people getting banged up during the
course of the game or whatever, Chase wars number one.
And you've played linebacker before, like you said, it's a sophomore,
that's pretty much all you played. Well, you know, I
saw you a couple of times out there in the
second half playing defense. One time you were out wide
having to play corner maybe for only a play.
Speaker 10 (28:01):
What what was that?
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It was a little scary, IMCA. I never never played
corner before and never in practice even.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
So all of a sudden, it's like we got a
guy going down with the cramp, and then the corner
coach and the d coinner pulled me over and there
telling me like what to cover on defense, and I'm
like looking at the side on every play, like, hold
up a number of how far off I'm supposed to be?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Like four yards? Five guards? Yeah? Seven yards? So technique
on the fly.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yeah, I was trying to figure it out, but uh
think think go too bad. I didn't give up any
big plays, so.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh you've played more than one play. I was out
there for like a whole drive pretty much.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh geez, holy cow, last one. Uh not to put
cart before horse here. We got hockey, we got baseball.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But nevertheless, when you first Eric, when when Chase graduates, okay, like,
like what do you hope is next athletic?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Let's say athletically. Uh that's on him.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
That's uh, he's got he's got a few choices, and
right I think he's leaning more baseball, but hockey could
still be in the mix. I can't believe a few
football things don't come down the play after last but
or after Friday. But it's one hundred percent on Chase
to to do what to do, whatever he feels is
right and take us time to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Smart kid, knowing all the baseball schools cal State Fullerton,
those in the Bible Belt, Florida, Georgia, warm Weather, smart kid,
Chase beure Guard, Right, I mean, is that something you're considering.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
It's gonna be super tough, just because you know, I
thought football for sure, I close the door, and then
all of a sudden it's like, well who knows now
after it's a big game. But then right, I mean, yeah,
I've gotten a couple of looks in all three. So
I'm gonna, like I said, I'm gonna take my time
on the decision, and it's gonna be a tough one
for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
In your heart, do you do you have one to
just naturally you've always liked more and and this is
with all due respect to those who play football and
hockey or baseball, but I mean people have favorite you know.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Honestly, I get asked this question a lot, and then
my answer is usually just whatever's in season. So, like
you know, I that's actually like true because I think
like during the football season, like I love football, I
only am thinking about football, and then I'm gonna get
into hockey here and that's all I'm gonna be thinking
about as well. Yeah, then it's like, you know, football
is gonna kind of get in the past a little bit,
and then baseball's gonna be a head and then I'm
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gonna get into the baseball and I'm gonna forget about
the other two pretty much.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So it's almost just whatever's in season for me.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
My brother, Congratulations, ma'am. I mean, I haven't known you
all your life, but you know, I've known you since
middle school and I was super happy for you the
other night. Likewise, for UEB, You're fantastic. Congratulations to you
guys and everybody on the Dyna Hornets high school football team.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Okay, thanks for having us come on.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'll come watch some of your hockey games, so give
me a schedule, eb Okay, appreciate you. Eric and Chase
Bjorgard talking about high school immortality.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
PJ.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Fleck, coach of the Golden Gophers football team, is next
nine to noon, Bam. Bam bam, here we go.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
PJ.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Black, coach of the Golden Gophers football team, nice enough
to join nine to noon about this time each and
every week the team lost at Northwest. I lost to
Northwestern or Wrigley Field thirty eight to thirty five, and
a spine Tangler a battle for the Acts takes place
here and on KFA and Saturday at three thirty and
the coach joins us now, PJU. The Wrigley Field experience.
(31:26):
Was it enjoyable despite not winning the game. And good morning, well,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
To you, Pa.
Speaker 10 (31:32):
Thanks for having us on. Yeah, I mean Brigyfield. I
mean especially for our players to be able to have
the historic venue and sesh and me growing up in
the Chicagoland area having a chance to be on the
field and play a football game. I guess the Big
Ten opponent was really really special for us, and unfortunately
weren't able to get it done. So that gets overshadowed
a little bit with the loss, but we learned a
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lot from that and a lot to go apply this week.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You're here and I read about this.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Your your defensive coordinator, Danny Collins worked it from the
field and not the booth. What what led to that
change because that that, you know, I think it's a
bigger change than maybe some people may think.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
Yeah, but it was made a little bit more for
the way the press boxes were. He didn't have necessarily
an advantage of being up there. It was more preference
and the way that the view angle was. Danny felt
like being on the field might even give us a
better advantage because the way that the view was, it
wasn't exactly given us an advantage from being up there
like a normal game. So rough I'm down on the
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field and not saying he'll stay down there. But that
was a decision we made, made it for that one
particular game based on the circumstances of that game, But
doesn't mean that we're going to make that decision moving forward.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yes, sir, I haven't watched much Northwestern football this year.
Do they have some high enders on offense.
Speaker 10 (32:49):
They're really efficient, they're really efficient at moving the football,
they're really good on defense, and you know, but they
we did we didn't execute at a high enough level
within the scheme, whether it was personnel, some young personnel
and also us as coaches. We didn't execute well enough
to put ourselves in a position to be successful on
the defensive side of the ball, and we played some
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really good defense all year and at times we haven't
and there's a lot of reasons for that. So I
always break it down whether it's coaching, whether it's scheme,
or whether it's personnel. It's one of the three, two
of the three, or all of the three. This one
has a little bit more do it's just coaching. In personnel,
we're playing a lot of young guys right now. Had
a lot of our starters on defense banged up and
out for that game, especially on the back end, and
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you know, we're just playing some younger guys that it's
it's worth it because it's going to help them develop
and be better in the future, but definitely hurt us
a little bit in some key parts that they'll really
learn from and grow from. But that's part of the
developmental program, is the depth piece, and a lot of
our depth is young, and our guys go in there
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and they are going to be the future of the
program and they're gonna learn from it and really respond.
So you know, they're really efficient. I mean, they played
one of the offensive games of the year and executed
at a high level, even in really tight coverage. So
you got to take your head off to them too.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
They executed a high level dre Yeah, their quarterback And
again I haven't watched them all year. If their quarterbacks
played a better game, I'd have to see it. But
your quarterback, Drake Lindsay went for two sixty four to
four and zero picks. What's the take with the steps
he took with one to go in conference play.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
Oh, he's becoming more and more mature by the day,
confident by the day. He's a better leader than he's
ever been. He's way more mature when you have to
matches you want to and not only that, it's throwing
people open, you know. I think that's one of the
things in the NFL that you have to be able
to do that you in college sometimes you can get
away with the guy open, throw it to the open guy,
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But to throw the guy open. I think that's where
we're seeing him evolve constantly, week in week out and
making huge strides for that. He's poised in all the
tough situations and the high pressure situations, and I'm really proud.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Of him for that.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
And he's only taking the necessary steps to be an
elite quarterback and again not skipping steps. Part of that
is losing, and I really believe this, and nobody likes
to lose. I don't like to lose.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Nobody wants to lose.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
The Vikings don't want to lose. But you have to
learn how to lose. And I think that's what makes
you a tremendous leader is if you learn how to
lose and you're a quote unquote good loser, where you
take that at fuel to be even a better winner
and lead during the hardest times the best. I think
that's what makes you a tremendous, tremendous football player and
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the best quarterback as possible.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Tell us Parker Fox, by the way, just rolled in,
so he's going to jump in the mix here momentarily.
Tell us about Junior Javon Tracy his first first three
touchdown receiving performance since Rashad Bateman in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Javon Tracy, Yeah, Javon has.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
Come on strong. You know, he's a transfer from Miami,
Ohio and he is a very good player. He kind
of reminds me of Elijah Spencer his first year here
and then Elijah turned into one of the best weapons
I think most reliable weapons in the Big Ten last
yearly on the third down conversion. So Javon, Tracy and
I have had numerous conversations. He's played really well all year,
but I think this is where he's playing his best football,
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and I think that's only going to propel him in
the next season because that's taking multi year transfers to
something we take a lot of pride in because we
can keep developing them. It's a higher level high school player,
and I think Javon has really learned a ton at
the wide receiver position. His craft is becoming sharper by
the week, and I'm just really proud of the progress
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he's making. And he had a huge game for us,
and him and Drake have a great relationship and look
forward to that continue to evolve.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Hey, PJ. Parker, here back with you.
Speaker 11 (36:37):
As you kind of know my story being a Minnesota kid,
I was raised on Better Dead than Red important week
for me. Fourteen straight losses before you got here, two Wisconsin.
So that acts found its home in Madison, but you
guys have it back now in Minneapolis. How does it
feel for you to kind of be a part of that,
to see the fans kind of just come together over
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that acts and how special is it to try to
win it back to back.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And keep that thing here at Hunting and Banks Stadium.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
Yeah, that's a great question, Parker. I think that's what
makes college football so special are the robbery games and
the robbery trophies and the tradition and the history and
the pageantry of those robberies. And you know, our job
is to find a way to be the best team
on the field during that rivalry for three and a
half hours, and the robberies really for the fans and
the border battle and all of our alumni and people
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who have played in that game, that's what makes it
really special. Wisconsin's continually gotten better every single week. They've
had one of the hardest schedules in all of America.
They've completely changed what they've done on offense and some
at some point defensively as well, and they're playing some really,
really good football. But as a head football coach, you
hope to especially when we walk into the situation we
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walked into where we hadn't had it for fourteen straight years,
you want to do something where you can make it
a rivalry again. And that comes from now the belief
that comes down to the mindset, and once you start
to do that, it could become a rivalry again. And listen,
we haven't won it every single year, but I do
think the ribvalry is as healthy as it's ever been.
And as a head football coach, you want to be
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able to re establish that rivalry and rekindle that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
With the Badgers defense. How does Wisconsin like to play defense?
Because it looks like they can be stingy at times.
Speaker 10 (38:18):
They definitely can be. I think, you know, they're shutting
a lot of high profile, high profile and prolific offenses down.
Over the last few weeks. You know, they won a
game against Washington, who's got a really good offense. They
just beat a really good Illinois team. They've had two
ranked wins in the last three weeks. I think that
just shows how far they've come and how good this
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team has gotten throughout the course of the year. But
their defense is really stingy. They're really good up front.
Their front seven tackles really well, re establishes a line
of scrimmage on the offensive side, and then they cover
really well so you don't have a lot of time
back there. They bring a lot at you. They're really
good at the simple things, and I think their schedule
that they played has made them a better football team,
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that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Last couple here for PJ. Fleck nine to noon. The
Badgers are winless on the road.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Three of those defeats have been to Alabama, Oregon, and Indiana.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
This and this is PJ.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
This is the last time your fan base will see
you guys at home until next year. So I'd imagine
it's important to leave them wanting more and certainly getting
a victory.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Right well, you always want to do that.
Speaker 10 (39:22):
You want to do that every game, whether it's week
to week, whether it's year to year, you always want that.
You want that for your fans. Wisconsin wants that for
their fans.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
You know.
Speaker 10 (39:32):
The good thing is, you know, we're b eligible again
take COVID out for the seventh straight years, so we're
we're going to have some time to continue to develop
a lot of the young players we have on this
team in our developmental program, because that's what we are.
So there's a lot going into our program. There's a
lot coming into our program. We got signing Day coming up,
and not only are we building this year, but it's
also building as we move into the future.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
And Wisconsin scored twenty seven Saturday and defeating Illinois Camp Randall.
That's as many points as they have scored in their
previous five games, including being shut out twice. So if
I'm a fan, like with season tickets, traveling to the
games and everything, I'd be like, major, major bounce back
chance here for your defense, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Well?
Speaker 10 (40:13):
Yeah, I mean you want to be one to zer
against Wisconsin period. You know we're gonna need all three phases.
We're to play really good complimentary football offense, defense, and
special teams, and then also play complimentary within the scheme
on offense and defense and special teams separately. So that's
the big challenge for us. And we got to go
play our best football game of the year.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Were you a proud surrogate dad uncle or whatever? When
Rerevins span Ford scored his first National Football League touchdown
yesterday for the Dallas Cowboys, it was a really good moment.
Speaker 10 (40:45):
We have it in the background. We were in an
offensive meeting yesterday, but it was it was always in
the every Sunday football is in the background, and we
kind of looked over and one of our quality trow guys.
Go Rev just going a touchdown and you know we
all texted at that moment. Just a huge moment for him.
So the key in anybody's future, in anybody's career, your
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first NFL touchdown, so especially when you play in that league.
So he's We're really proud of him. He's been great
comes back and awful lot and he's a great alum,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Appreciate you tear it up against Bucky this weekend. We'll
talk soon, right, Appreciate with the most guy.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
I'll go go for school Vikes.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
See you about PJ pla coach of the Golden Gophers
football team. Parker Fox sticks around for the next two segments,
then the Sultan of Smug About forty minutes from now,
this is Wine to Noon.
Healing.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Pete Versage, analyst for the KFA in Minnesota. Vikings Audio Network,
joins us now at Pete Bursage via x and this
is courtesy of suit Cup Manufacturing and sue Cup dot Com.
Pete the kid quarterback, I think is carrying the weight
of the world and the burden of the losses. I'm
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hoping Lambeau was the bottom physically and mentally for him,
and maybe it's all up from here.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I think you and everybody else, you and I and
everybody else is feeling the same way.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I mean that what else? What else are we going
to do? Right?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What else can you do? You made this commitment, You've
got to see through it, right. You've got to lean
on those that know, because as much as we all know,
even though we've seen a lot of football, we don't
know everything. We're not quarterback ruse, we're not coordinators, we're
not coaches in the NFL. And you know, you have
to have faith in those positions and that in what
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they're saying, and that they see the potential. They they
saw enough to draft them, they see they then they're
still seeing it and they're working and each and every
day trying to get to where the Vikings want to
be and where they need to be. And that's what else.
I mean, really, what else can you do other than
get back out there. I mean, that's this is a game.
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This is a kind of situation where if you're if
you're a player, you want to get back on the.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Field as quickly as possible because you.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Just want to get that bad taste out of your mouth,
the whole thing, and you know, the whole thing yesterday
and start fresh.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Uh Ohconnle said after the game, the team's margin for
airs razor thin, and I think we would happen to
agree with that, So yeah, I would imagine that means
when you have when you have that punt return l
and they score and open a seventeen to six lead,
that might be the whole enchilada. I mean, the way
with the razor thin margin and the way things are
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going right now.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Right absolutely puts it puts pressure on every other position.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I mean, think about it.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
How many postgame press conferences have you heard with a
quarterback saying, well, you know, the defense really bailed us
out this game, or quarterback that says, you know, my
wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Has really bailed me out today.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It happens, right, Different parts of the team play and
have good days to help elevate the others. That's the
whole point of the teams, that's the whole point of
the of the team sport. And when you have a
specific area and it's a key position, it's not just
the tight end position where you're young, or the offensive line.
I mean your core turnback is young. Yeah, the rest
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of the team has to elevate themselves to make up
to keep competitive, to keep winning. And it's a very
difficult thing to do. And the more prolonged it is,
and the more prolonged that pressure is, the you know,
the harder, the harder and harder it gets. I mean,
the defense yesterday played pretty well. You look at the numbers.
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The Packers were well under their average on offense, but
it wasn't enough despite being put on the field and
on the you know it was it the five yard
line or wherever the muff punt ended up being outside
of that, you give up sixteen points. That's usually winning football, right,
and so that has to continue. You can't afford it.
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You can't afford penalties. They are drive killers. You can't
afford turnovers. I mean, you're right, the margin of error
really gets thin. And the problem there, or the challenge there,
is you can't play up tight. You can't play not
to lose, you can't play not to make a mistake.
And it's a balancing act and it's not a fun
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position to be in.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
In a paramutual puzzler. To a certain extent, we had
some listeners hit the six four six eight six the
text line and say, is it possible to have a
Pete Bursage analyze this talk back? And we've got a
few of those, so we're like, yeah, we could do that.
He's an e laitue football mind, played in the league,
coach in the league, as I've been the audio network
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analyst since two thousand and seven. So here's the.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
First Hey guys, nice remedian.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I'm not even gonna talk about the offense because everybody
knows it's absolutely futrid.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But I want to talk about the defense.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I'm sick of people worshiping Bflow like he is God
on Earth and the next head coaching job he's gonna get,
he's gonna win the Super Bowl with Our defense is
fifth worst in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I know what it has to do.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
With the offense and then keeping the defense on the
field the whole game. But the defense isn't helping the
offense out either. We don't turn the ball over, you
don't get stops. Our special teams isn't great. The defense
is not good.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Sorry bye. What do you think, Pete? Well?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
In the yards per game basis, we're tied it going
into this game. We're gonna be better off because we
we only gave up with two hundred and forty five yards.
We're tenth in the league in yards, ninth per play
against the run twenty second, but we're fourteenth per play past.
We're seventh overall per play twenty one. Sack rate, we're sixth.
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It's the interception rate. We were number one last year.
Now we're down to twenty eighth. We were ninth in
the league on third down going into yesterday. So it's like,
here's the thing in nothing's ever as good as it seems,
nothing's ever as bad as it seems, and somewhere in
between reality lies. I mean, you know B Flow, I
mean Bflow gets a lot of attention because what he
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does is unique, and what he does is different, and
that that brings a lot of attention, the amount of
blitzing and all that. But the defense, I mean, they've
played well, they're playing good, and they're playing well enough
to win football games. Right look at the Bears defense.
Look at the numbers on the Bears defense. Outside of
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them cranking out turnovers at at an unbelievable rate, they
were in the you know, high twenties in most of
these categories. Overall, they couldn't get to the quarterback without blitzing.
I mean, they have no format pass rush. So yeah,
I mean, I just stay off social media, man, because
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it's what you get, right, you get all everybody's no one's.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
In the reality world.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Everybody's either on one polar end or the other polar
opposite end, right either either you know, everyone thinks McCarthy's
gonna do it, he's gonna be great, or get rid
of him. Right, there's nobody in between, and unfortunately, realities
in between. But that doesn't get people to click on
tweets or you know, look at Instagram, you know stories.
(06:57):
So unfortunately, that's that's where we are, right. We're somewhere
in between that and defensively, you know we're not We're
not paying a ton of money for everybody. So you know,
finding Isaiah Rodgers, I mean, come on, I mean that's
still you know what I mean, you signed him. Everybody
was like, okay, that's your first day signing.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
All right.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Well, Rodgers has been pretty damn good. So there's a
lot of wins on the defensive side of football, Levi,
Drake Rodriguez, you know, just we can go on and on,
but Turner's starting to turn the corner.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, the the thirty seven and a half minutes to
twenty two and a half minutes time of possession, Yeah,
that's going to make anybody tired.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And then that's been.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Think Paul, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but think about this.
We've turned the ball over twenty times, right, twenty one
twenty one Okay, So assuming that once the ball's turned over,
the opposing offense will have the ball for at least
three plays, that's sixty six plays right there. That's an
entire game. That's a game sixty six plays, right So yeah,
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they're out there on the field. They're out there on
the field a little bit, a little bit more than
the offense.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Nordo talkback. Hey, it's Richard from Rochester.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Hey, it seems like the best coaches can design their
game plans around what their players can do. And we
think that KOs is a good coach. Is at this point,
is he doing enough to design a game plant around
what McCarthy can do or has he already done that
as much as he can and McCarthy's not capable of
(08:34):
executing that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
That's an interesting question. Yeah, it's it's a very good one.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You know this, Paul, this is not the offense that
we've seen here for the last three years.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's not It's not the down the field.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Clears and digs and deep crossover deep crosses in the
play action passing game, right. I mean, we're seeing some
of it, but it's not as heavy. I mean, Kirk Cousins,
that was his you know, Darnold when he was here,
that's what they did. Play action passing was the rating
was was unbelievably high. We were very, very good. Yeah,
this schematically, and you know your philosophy, it's it's not
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it's been changed. It's been changed quite a bit. And
that's the ebb and flow that you're seeing is all right,
we're going to change this. We're going to do this
and hopefully the kid can handle it, and then for
some one reason here or there he is or he isn't.
So you tweak and you go. And that's the process
right now. Is it fun?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
No? Does some of it not work? Of course it's
not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Because your your identity as an offense has completely changed
because you're trying to accommodate the young quarterback whom you
have a ton of faith in whom you drafted. So
you made that decision when that happened, when you drafted him,
and now you've got to meet him in the middle somewhere,
and that's the process. But this offense definitely has an
(09:58):
identity and it's it's explosive, it's aggressive, it's quarterback heavy.
We we we said this, We've been saying this for years.
With the amount I mean, with the amount that the
quarterback has to handle, right we all remember Kirk Cousins
with the quarterback bit where he's driving in the car
listening to the listening to the plays, and I mean,
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it demands a lot out of that position, and it's
it's not something that's going to get done overnight.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So here we are, this is where we're going.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And now you guess we can sit back and watch
it develop and you know, thank goodness, Uh, you're not
the one that has to make all the decisions, right, Hey.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
This is it's a tough it's a tough situation.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Since lastly, since we departed, since we split yesterday and
and I came back with the team and you drove back.
I've just been wondering this. How was the drive from
Green Bay to Minnesota? And did you listen to Packers
fan line?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No? No, I actually got to listen to some I'm
our fan line. I gotta you know, we got a
way that we can do that. So that was that
was pretty interesting. The one part that stot to me
was just when when Ive and Pace ran off the field. Yeah,
you just assumed that there were twelve guys on the field,
(11:17):
but in reality there were only eleven, right, and so
but there was a flag thrown, was there not? And
I can't remember what the flag was for unless that's
what they picked it up. And they said they counted
wrong as well. But what that whole thing was, that
whole thing was a disaster.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But yeah, it was. It was good.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Now I was starting to see deer all over the
place on the side of the road and everything, but
I didn't see any So.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, the carnage. The carnage was purple and gold. It
was not that of deer or poor fawns or anything.
So did you I know you're a fan of Metallica.
Did you listen to Metallica on said drive? And if so,
were the choices fade to black? And uh? To live
is to die?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I you know what I did is I open up
YouTube and watched some some inspirational stuff. I watched a
documentary on the on the Titanic's Nelson Apoll thirteen.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Holy cow. So yeah, I think it's I think it's bad. Now,
well you know it could be worse. All right, Well,
I'll see you out there this week. And sounds good.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Then we have Sam the man who used to be
on the fan and that's courtesy of Sue Cup Manufacturing
and Sue Cup dot Com.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Thank you very much, Pete.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
All right, Pa, we have some father son fun coming
up around the corner. It involves the six A state
high school football championship. This is nine to now, ladies
(12:56):
and gentlemen, we have Minnesota high school football immortality in studio.
This would have to be one of the great performances
in the history of Minnesota high school football at any circumstance,
non conference, conference, state title, postseason, section finals, whatever. We're
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talking about six touchdowns and three hundred and fifty one
total yards. One of the tds sounded like this make
out lethodic orgst drive.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Pre guard left side spins nice moving to this catch
the outside. He's the midfield, he's a fort He's gonna
blocker and fun on the side. It's a foot race
down that sideline and pure guard has done it again.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
First, we welcome into the studio the ber guard, about
whom you just heard. Chase be your guard from me
Dinah High School with six touchdowns, three hundred and fifty
one total yards, a bunch of great teammates and a
bunch of wonderful memories and a state high school championship
is in studio with us and some of the with
whom those who listened to the show frequently are familiar
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dear friend of mine, somebody I've known for quite some time,
and the general manager of Metropolitan Ford, Eric Bejorguard, who
is Chase's dad.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
They're both here and at.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Least Nordo and I can do is get both you
guys Covenant class. I mean specifically for the kid because
he executed the toil, but I mean, you know, we
got Dad in the equation too, with you know, previously
owned rides, and then we got mass going on in
studio right now. This is such a great moment for
the listening audience because the general manager just may be
(14:35):
so tickled with what transpired on Friday night he may say,
I bleep it. Eleventh caller, free f one fifty, no idea,
what's going to happen? What of evy that may have
been brought up in the stands that night? Chase, how
are you, buddy? Good? Good to see you. Congratulations on
the state title, my ma'am. Now, first, Eric, as a dad,
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what was like watching one of the greatest performances in
the history of Minnesota high school football and at your son?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
You know, you just can't even make it up. It's uh,
if you went into that game and asked me that question,
and my answer wouldn't have been anywhere near what he
actually did.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, it was. It was things of dreams. It was
it was super fun.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I don't think of all the e Dinah, I still
hasn't come down from it because the whole city was there. Wow,
most of the city party with me afterwards. It was
it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Did you what are we opening the dealership at twelve
thirty in the morning. At midnight, I six touchdowns and
ninety nine bottles of beer on the wall.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I feel a little like Al Bundy. I used to
think I had cool sports stories.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I got nothing. Chase.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
First of all, congratulations brother, thank you. But it's just
it's it's hard for me to look at you right now.
I've known you since you were in middle school, and
you haven't always been this big, and you haven't always
been this sturdy. And I was talking to Ben Lieber,
who lives in the Dinah actually day after the game,
and then this this trip that we took the Lambeau
about your your your size, and like, I mean, you're
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you're how old are you?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Eighteen seventeen, seventeen?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Okay, so you're going to grow, You're going to mature,
your body's naturally going to develop. But like when it
comes to physically crafting yourself for a football season, then
a hockey season is baseball still in the mix?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Baseball still in the mixing.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
So we're gonna go hockey than baseball, right then we're done,
all right, Like, uh, if we have any Billies Johnny's, Christy, SUSY's, Tamika's,
Antoine's listening right now, like what did you what did
you do to become as sturdy as you've become or
or did it just happen?
Speaker 8 (16:40):
I think part of it's just, you know, always playing sports,
you know, you develop a lot of different muscles doing
each each and every sport.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And then also big fan of bacon, advocate of bacon.
So really yeah, makes that a plug. Froe of my
guys at work, he textedents.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
And make sure he gets gets some a shout out.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Of his bacon. See, I told you we'd be getting
some plugs in here.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
We've got a general manager and a car dealership in
studio A.
Speaker 9 (17:05):
Here's a hook in an angle, you know, you those
those three sports that you play, Chase, there's a conversation
for us on the outside. That's great that when you
see highly touted athletes as they get through the ranks
of their youth, there's this tendency or a push wherever
that push comes from. Got to play one sport. You're
gonna be awesome at one particular sport. You're going to
eat sleep, drink that thing with a side of bacon, bacon,
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and we'll see where it falls. You clearly, it's always
been it. I'm just guessing. I guess. I just I've
been talking to you for thirty seconds that it's always
been important that you played the multiple sports, that you
stayed active in baseball, hockey, and football.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Right, Yeah, you know that's really important for me.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
But also I think it's like a little bit of
responsibility for my like I'd be there for my teammates too,
just because I feel like if I leave one then
I'll be letting those guys down, and you know, I
just really don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So, yeah, does Eric, does every member of the Dina
High School offensive line get a free pre obviously owned
for Metropolitan Ford?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
You know, let we work out something there, but they
come with a little bit of payments, but yeah, we
you know, I've talked to quite a few people that
need ride.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So yeah, and you know, now knowing how the time
of possession in the game went where you know, I
was at something called fashion Fest in Minneapolis Friday night,
didn't get back to like eight fifteen, eight thirty. So
I missed the first half and I didn't look back
at the at the box score. So I was just
kind of under the assumption with the way things were
going late, with all due respect to Chase and the
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offensive line and the play calls and everything, that like, okay,
well the more heads tired and got some arm tackles here.
You know, they're not really like two rams meeting in
the prairie head on So I just I didn't and
but it was two to one time of possession for them.
So so the your offensive line, man, and I'm sorry,
I don't know any of the names you're walking to
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mention all of them? How awesome were they for you?
Not only Friday night but during the course of the season.
And because that right there pays away for everything.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Man, Yeah, I mean unreal for sure, completely new online
this year, Like our coaches did a great job getting
them ready. We got one kid that came from defense
that's gonna go to iowas Solasier shures Kim, and then
you know, everyone else has worked their butt off the
whole year to get to where they did in that game.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And yeah, I couldn't be more proud of them.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So the so eric the pro team losing a Lambeau
didn't harsh the mellow Friday night.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I think it'd be impossible.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
I've I've spent so much time with the with all
the football dads, the captain dads, like I think we
got together, well five times this weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
We've watched the game back. That's great.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
We talked about every inch of the game. You watched
it back. Oh well, I might watch out one hundred times.
This is fantastic. Texted with the dads and I was like,
I think, I think I gotta get a life.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Like I've watched it back twice. This was like yesterday morning.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
I've watched it back twice and I watched all the
highlights like it's everywhere, like it's all, It's all I
could do.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And all the other dads are like the same, same, right, same, Okay,
So so let's go back in time for second.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Because you know when you were a sophomore, Chase, I
didn't talk to you about this, and it was the
elephant in the room in your football life.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But I talked to your dad about it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Because I'm watching the game, I'm pulling for you because
of your dad, and subsequently, I guess I'm pulling for
the team, and so I can't remember the exact circumstances,
but you got the final carry of the game in
the state championship game?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Was it against Centennial? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, So had you played running back a lot in
that game as a sophomore, I don't believe you had?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Correct No, Yeah, no, I didn't play the whole year
pretty much.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Okay, there we go. Yeah, Now he was at linebacker.
I think that was the fifth area of the year
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And all of a sudden, big boys in the game
and the whole thing is on the line. You take
the carry, you search for the end zone to win
the state title, and you come up a little short.
So from when when it comes to something we've actually
talked about earlier in the show with the Vikings quarterback
and go through adversity, is that a moment that you'll
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never forget despite the six and three point fifty one
in the state title in the senior year. I mean,
because you know I, I you know, your dad's happy,
go lucky man. So it's it's not like I'm sure
Eric was more down about the moment than maybe you
let me know, but that was that was just a
tough moment right there.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Granted it's two years ago, but that's still something that
like you'll never forget and probably fueled you as you
move forward, right.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
I mean I'll literally be up like a year later,
like summer Nights is thinking about it and it was
super tough. But at the same time, yeah, we say,
hungry dogs run faster, So you know, I think that
really helped me, you know, throughout the workouts and last
season and through all the training and hard practices, you know,
just trying to get back there to the championship game
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and then you know, to have that performance.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I did mean a whole lot for me. Hmmm, Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's the voice of Chase Beorguard, a senior edi Dynah
High School with a football, hockey, and baseball and his father,
Eric bureguard general manager Metropolitan Ford, a staple nine to noon,
specifically on Mondays for many years. Likewise for the Allen family,
as my son Derek has driven two cars for Metropolitan Ford,
I've had two cars from Metropolitan Ford. Likewise, for my daughter,
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she's had one Eric Salt of the Earth and His
son Chase, had six touchdowns on Friday night in winning
the six to a championship over Morehead, and Chase is
a goalie for the DYNA High school hockey team. His
teammate Mason West was the title winning quarterback. Are you
guys close? And was it emotional for not only you
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two but for all the guys knowing even though you'll
probably play hockey and baseball together with a fair amount
of them, but that was your last high school football game.
So I mean, I'm not trying to harsh mellow here,
like bring you down from the apex of this accomplishment.
But still, in age seventeen, man, excellent relationships have been
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forged through football. There probably is a little bit of sadness, right.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
I mean, yeah, for sure. I think going out on
top though it kind of, you know, made that a
little bit different. And then but yeah, for sure it's
gonna be weird going to the ring today instead of
the field. I think that's when it's going to start
to set in a little bit. But I mean, for now,
just because we went out with the championship, I think
that it really kind of, you know, canceled out the
whole sadness about it being my last.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Game and Mason West a Chicago Blackhawks draft pick, like
twenty third or twenty fifth something like that. You know,
I would imagine that there were conversations, certainly not asking
you to speak for him or his family, but if
with what you do know and can share, it's like,
he's really good at hockey, We're going to draft him. Hey,
is there any chance that, like after your junior year,
you can just go full throttle in this program juniors
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or whatever it would be next and correct me if
I'm wrong here, but it's like, nah, we get unfinished
business here with this football team and other sports. Maybe
so Mason came back, gave you the full season. Now,
maybe he's gonna ready for Idana hockey. Maybe not, But nevertheless,
I thought it was really cool that members of the
Chicago Blackhawks front office, general manager, assistant general manager, the
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whole bit man would come to town to support that kid,
support him in a way where it's like, yes, we
would love to have you, now, get you in our
wait strength program, the whole thing, but we understand where
you're coming from with your dogs and with your friends
and everything. And he died in high school, so they acquiesced,
they still took him, but like they came to Metropolitan
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Ford I think on a Saturday and like had hot
dogs and drinks and things like that, just celebrating everything
that was happening. That's just really really cool they did that. Yeah,
it's a very unique situation. Obviously we haven't had anything
like this before.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
But to tell you a little bit about Mason, like
he told all of the NHL like he was coming
back before the draft so he could hurt your draft stock.
He said, I'm coming back to play my senior year
of football. And for that, I think every Canada team
took him off their draft board.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wow. They just said, well, then you're not serious about hockey.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
He's like, well, no, I'm serious about winning a state
championship with my boys, and then hockey will be there. Like, well,
after the dust settles, hockey will still be there. Mason
West and his family is just unbelievable people, the the
nicest people on the face of the planet.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's great.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Speaking of that, I mean you mentioned going to the
rink today. How long do you continue to revel or
relish in this moment state title, state champions before you
turn It's like I mean, we might as well just
go win a state hockey title too, now, I mean,
you just get together with Mason and the guys. Right,
when do you make that mental shift, Chase.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
I mean, it's definitely gonna be tough, but it might
even have to start today like a little bit. I mean,
it's gonna be tough to come back down from the
high winning the championship, but it's almost like you gotta
find a time to refocus and locking on hockey. But
you know, in the back of my mind, I always
be thinking about that football season for.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Sure, So I would imagine the Moorhead hockey team's good.
I mean I think there's a col in that plays
for him, Matt cullin Son. Yeah, and they beat you
guys in the championship last year, right yep? Okay, it
wasn't the championship. It was the Semis and the Semis. Okay, Well,
it Chase cover yours places. You don't need to be
here and this is seventeen uh. With the football part
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of it, did people at the bank cut loose with
the cake eater's bit and or get after the hornets
like they did in the state high school hockey tournament
last year. Is that is that actually still a thing?
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Oh, that's a thing. But they didn't win, so it's hard.
It's hard to get honest as much when you lose.
But their their hockey team beat our hockey team six
to three.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Nice.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Saw some tiktoks out there already. They make a big
deal every time they beat us.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's something.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
They're they're a big rival. They're they're a great program.
Their hockey is always good. On how many kids calling
can have in his basement that can still play for him.
But they're they're they're great. They went a lot and
their football team was unbelievable. They were I mean, talk
about the talent. All their kids are going to come back.
They get their their quarterback Feenie, he's a stud.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He'll be back. He's a junior. Their running back was
a junior.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Their quarterback was nice when they broke the pocket and
set his feet and got his eyes down the field.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Pretty good.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Yeah, that number one for them. David Mack I think
he is he can go pretty much anywhere he wants.
He was he's an absolute study. He had like one
hundred and I think he had more catches than the
next closest kid.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
By like twenty or thirty in the whole state. Wow,
just sick, silly, were really good. Who Chase, and I
apologize for not knowing this. Who was the din of
football coach? And how impactful has he been to you?
That's Jason Potts. I mean even in middle school he
was my gym teacher, so I've been knowing him for
a while.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
I remember specifically in like seventh grade, he was like,
kind of I want to see this kid got So
we're like playing football out there at like during gym class,
and you like pull me on his team and had
me run some routes while he's played like all time quarterbacks.
So I guess that was kind of my first try out.
So yeah, he's meant a lot to me. Kind of
throw my high school and middle school career for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So due to some people getting banged up during the
course of the game or whatever, Chase wars number one.
And you've played linebacker before, like you said, it's a sophomore,
that's pretty much all you played. Well, you know, I
saw you a couple of times out there in the
second half playing defense. One time you were out wide
having to play corner maybe for only a play.
Speaker 10 (28:01):
What what was that?
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It was a little scary, IMCA. I never never played
corner before and never in practice even.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
So all of a sudden, it's like we got a
guy going down with the cramp, and then the corner
coach and the d coinner pulled me over and there
telling me like what to cover on defense, and I'm
like looking at the side on every play, like, hold
up a number of how far off I'm supposed to be?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Like four yards? Five guards? Yeah? Seven yards? So technique
on the fly.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yeah, I was trying to figure it out, but uh
think think go too bad. I didn't give up any
big plays, so.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh you've played more than one play. I was out
there for like a whole drive pretty much.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh geez, holy cow, last one. Uh not to put
cart before horse here. We got hockey, we got baseball.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But nevertheless, when you first Eric, when when Chase graduates, okay, like,
like what do you hope is next athletic?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Let's say athletically. Uh that's on him.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
That's uh, he's got he's got a few choices, and
right I think he's leaning more baseball, but hockey could
still be in the mix. I can't believe a few
football things don't come down the play after last but
or after Friday. But it's one hundred percent on Chase
to to do what to do, whatever he feels is
right and take us time to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Smart kid, knowing all the baseball schools cal State Fullerton,
those in the Bible Belt, Florida, Georgia, warm Weather, smart kid,
Chase beure Guard, Right, I mean, is that something you're considering.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
It's gonna be super tough, just because you know, I
thought football for sure, I close the door, and then
all of a sudden it's like, well who knows now
after it's a big game. But then right, I mean, yeah,
I've gotten a couple of looks in all three. So
I'm gonna, like I said, I'm gonna take my time
on the decision, and it's gonna be a tough one
for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
In your heart, do you do you have one to
just naturally you've always liked more and and this is
with all due respect to those who play football and
hockey or baseball, but I mean people have favorite you know.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Honestly, I get asked this question a lot, and then
my answer is usually just whatever's in season. So, like
you know, I that's actually like true because I think
like during the football season, like I love football, I
only am thinking about football, and then I'm gonna get
into hockey here and that's all I'm gonna be thinking
about as well. Yeah, then it's like, you know, football
is gonna kind of get in the past a little bit,
and then baseball's gonna be a head and then I'm
(30:14):
gonna get into the baseball and I'm gonna forget about
the other two pretty much.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So it's almost just whatever's in season for me.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
My brother, Congratulations, ma'am. I mean, I haven't known you
all your life, but you know, I've known you since
middle school and I was super happy for you the
other night. Likewise, for UEB, You're fantastic. Congratulations to you
guys and everybody on the Dyna Hornets high school football team.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Okay, thanks for having us come on.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'll come watch some of your hockey games, so give
me a schedule, eb Okay, appreciate you. Eric and Chase
Bjorgard talking about high school immortality.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
PJ.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Fleck, coach of the Golden Gophers football team, is next
nine to noon, Bam. Bam bam, here we go.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
PJ.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Black, coach of the Golden Gophers football team, nice enough
to join nine to noon about this time each and
every week the team lost at Northwest. I lost to
Northwestern or Wrigley Field thirty eight to thirty five, and
a spine Tangler a battle for the Acts takes place
here and on KFA and Saturday at three thirty and
the coach joins us now, PJU. The Wrigley Field experience.
(31:26):
Was it enjoyable despite not winning the game. And good morning, well,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
To you, Pa.
Speaker 10 (31:32):
Thanks for having us on. Yeah, I mean Brigyfield. I
mean especially for our players to be able to have
the historic venue and sesh and me growing up in
the Chicagoland area having a chance to be on the
field and play a football game. I guess the Big
Ten opponent was really really special for us, and unfortunately
weren't able to get it done. So that gets overshadowed
a little bit with the loss, but we learned a
(31:52):
lot from that and a lot to go apply this week.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You're here and I read about this.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Your your defensive coordinator, Danny Collins worked it from the
field and not the booth. What what led to that
change because that that, you know, I think it's a
bigger change than maybe some people may think.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
Yeah, but it was made a little bit more for
the way the press boxes were. He didn't have necessarily
an advantage of being up there. It was more preference
and the way that the view angle was. Danny felt
like being on the field might even give us a
better advantage because the way that the view was, it
wasn't exactly given us an advantage from being up there
like a normal game. So rough I'm down on the
(32:32):
field and not saying he'll stay down there. But that
was a decision we made, made it for that one
particular game based on the circumstances of that game, But
doesn't mean that we're going to make that decision moving forward.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yes, sir, I haven't watched much Northwestern football this year.
Do they have some high enders on offense.
Speaker 10 (32:49):
They're really efficient, they're really efficient at moving the football,
they're really good on defense, and you know, but they
we did we didn't execute at a high enough level
within the scheme, whether it was personnel, some young personnel
and also us as coaches. We didn't execute well enough
to put ourselves in a position to be successful on
the defensive side of the ball, and we played some
(33:10):
really good defense all year and at times we haven't
and there's a lot of reasons for that. So I
always break it down whether it's coaching, whether it's scheme,
or whether it's personnel. It's one of the three, two
of the three, or all of the three. This one
has a little bit more do it's just coaching. In personnel,
we're playing a lot of young guys right now. Had
a lot of our starters on defense banged up and
out for that game, especially on the back end, and
(33:31):
you know, we're just playing some younger guys that it's
it's worth it because it's going to help them develop
and be better in the future, but definitely hurt us
a little bit in some key parts that they'll really
learn from and grow from. But that's part of the
developmental program, is the depth piece, and a lot of
our depth is young, and our guys go in there
(33:52):
and they are going to be the future of the
program and they're gonna learn from it and really respond.
So you know, they're really efficient. I mean, they played
one of the offensive games of the year and executed
at a high level, even in really tight coverage. So
you got to take your head off to them too.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
They executed a high level dre Yeah, their quarterback And
again I haven't watched them all year. If their quarterbacks
played a better game, I'd have to see it. But
your quarterback, Drake Lindsay went for two sixty four to
four and zero picks. What's the take with the steps
he took with one to go in conference play.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
Oh, he's becoming more and more mature by the day,
confident by the day. He's a better leader than he's
ever been. He's way more mature when you have to
matches you want to and not only that, it's throwing
people open, you know. I think that's one of the
things in the NFL that you have to be able
to do that you in college sometimes you can get
away with the guy open, throw it to the open guy,
(34:42):
But to throw the guy open. I think that's where
we're seeing him evolve constantly, week in week out and
making huge strides for that. He's poised in all the
tough situations and the high pressure situations, and I'm really proud.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Of him for that.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
And he's only taking the necessary steps to be an
elite quarterback and again not skipping steps. Part of that
is losing, and I really believe this, and nobody likes
to lose. I don't like to lose.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Nobody wants to lose.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
The Vikings don't want to lose. But you have to
learn how to lose. And I think that's what makes
you a tremendous leader is if you learn how to
lose and you're a quote unquote good loser, where you
take that at fuel to be even a better winner
and lead during the hardest times the best. I think
that's what makes you a tremendous, tremendous football player and
(35:28):
the best quarterback as possible.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Tell us Parker Fox, by the way, just rolled in,
so he's going to jump in the mix here momentarily.
Tell us about Junior Javon Tracy his first first three
touchdown receiving performance since Rashad Bateman in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Javon Tracy, Yeah, Javon has.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
Come on strong. You know, he's a transfer from Miami,
Ohio and he is a very good player. He kind
of reminds me of Elijah Spencer his first year here
and then Elijah turned into one of the best weapons
I think most reliable weapons in the Big Ten last
yearly on the third down conversion. So Javon, Tracy and
I have had numerous conversations. He's played really well all year,
but I think this is where he's playing his best football,
(36:08):
and I think that's only going to propel him in
the next season because that's taking multi year transfers to
something we take a lot of pride in because we
can keep developing them. It's a higher level high school player,
and I think Javon has really learned a ton at
the wide receiver position. His craft is becoming sharper by
the week, and I'm just really proud of the progress
(36:29):
he's making. And he had a huge game for us,
and him and Drake have a great relationship and look
forward to that continue to evolve.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Hey, PJ. Parker, here back with you.
Speaker 11 (36:37):
As you kind of know my story being a Minnesota kid,
I was raised on Better Dead than Red important week
for me. Fourteen straight losses before you got here, two Wisconsin.
So that acts found its home in Madison, but you
guys have it back now in Minneapolis. How does it
feel for you to kind of be a part of that,
to see the fans kind of just come together over
(36:57):
that acts and how special is it to try to
win it back to back.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And keep that thing here at Hunting and Banks Stadium.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
Yeah, that's a great question, Parker. I think that's what
makes college football so special are the robbery games and
the robbery trophies and the tradition and the history and
the pageantry of those robberies. And you know, our job
is to find a way to be the best team
on the field during that rivalry for three and a
half hours, and the robberies really for the fans and
the border battle and all of our alumni and people
(37:24):
who have played in that game, that's what makes it
really special. Wisconsin's continually gotten better every single week. They've
had one of the hardest schedules in all of America.
They've completely changed what they've done on offense and some
at some point defensively as well, and they're playing some really,
really good football. But as a head football coach, you
hope to especially when we walk into the situation we
(37:45):
walked into where we hadn't had it for fourteen straight years,
you want to do something where you can make it
a rivalry again. And that comes from now the belief
that comes down to the mindset, and once you start
to do that, it could become a rivalry again. And listen,
we haven't won it every single year, but I do
think the ribvalry is as healthy as it's ever been.
And as a head football coach, you want to be
(38:05):
able to re establish that rivalry and rekindle that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
With the Badgers defense. How does Wisconsin like to play defense?
Because it looks like they can be stingy at times.
Speaker 10 (38:18):
They definitely can be. I think, you know, they're shutting
a lot of high profile, high profile and prolific offenses down.
Over the last few weeks. You know, they won a
game against Washington, who's got a really good offense. They
just beat a really good Illinois team. They've had two
ranked wins in the last three weeks. I think that
just shows how far they've come and how good this
(38:38):
team has gotten throughout the course of the year. But
their defense is really stingy. They're really good up front.
Their front seven tackles really well, re establishes a line
of scrimmage on the offensive side, and then they cover
really well so you don't have a lot of time
back there. They bring a lot at you. They're really
good at the simple things, and I think their schedule
that they played has made them a better football team,
(38:59):
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Last couple here for PJ. Fleck nine to noon. The
Badgers are winless on the road.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Three of those defeats have been to Alabama, Oregon, and Indiana.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
This and this is PJ.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
This is the last time your fan base will see
you guys at home until next year. So I'd imagine
it's important to leave them wanting more and certainly getting
a victory.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Right well, you always want to do that.
Speaker 10 (39:22):
You want to do that every game, whether it's week
to week, whether it's year to year, you always want that.
You want that for your fans. Wisconsin wants that for
their fans.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
You know.
Speaker 10 (39:32):
The good thing is, you know, we're b eligible again
take COVID out for the seventh straight years, so we're
we're going to have some time to continue to develop
a lot of the young players we have on this
team in our developmental program, because that's what we are.
So there's a lot going into our program. There's a
lot coming into our program. We got signing Day coming up,
and not only are we building this year, but it's
also building as we move into the future.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
And Wisconsin scored twenty seven Saturday and defeating Illinois Camp Randall.
That's as many points as they have scored in their
previous five games, including being shut out twice. So if
I'm a fan, like with season tickets, traveling to the
games and everything, I'd be like, major, major bounce back
chance here for your defense, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Well?
Speaker 10 (40:13):
Yeah, I mean you want to be one to zer
against Wisconsin period. You know we're gonna need all three phases.
We're to play really good complimentary football offense, defense, and
special teams, and then also play complimentary within the scheme
on offense and defense and special teams separately. So that's
the big challenge for us. And we got to go
play our best football game of the year.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Were you a proud surrogate dad uncle or whatever? When
Rerevins span Ford scored his first National Football League touchdown
yesterday for the Dallas Cowboys, it was a really good moment.
Speaker 10 (40:45):
We have it in the background. We were in an
offensive meeting yesterday, but it was it was always in
the every Sunday football is in the background, and we
kind of looked over and one of our quality trow guys.
Go Rev just going a touchdown and you know we
all texted at that moment. Just a huge moment for him.
So the key in anybody's future, in anybody's career, your
(41:06):
first NFL touchdown, so especially when you play in that league.
So he's We're really proud of him. He's been great
comes back and awful lot and he's a great alum,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Appreciate you tear it up against Bucky this weekend. We'll
talk soon, right, Appreciate with the most guy.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
I'll go go for school Vikes.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
See you about PJ pla coach of the Golden Gophers
football team. Parker Fox sticks around for the next two segments,
then the Sultan of Smug About forty minutes from now,
this is Wine to Noon.
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