October 24, 2025 • 42 mins
Ryan Burns joins the show for Hour 2 and gives his thoughts on the Vikings game last night vs the Chargers, as well as previewing the Gophers game on Saturday vs Iowa.
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
Second hour nor to win for p A, although p
A p A is going to be in studio at
eleven looking forward to catching up with him. Save travels
took place back from la and so far the disaster
last night and hopefully looking for something better. Nine and
a half point dogs. That's a little heavy, to be
honest with you. But the Minnesota Golden Gophers are at
the Iowa Hawkeyes tomorrow. It's a two thirty pm kickoff
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at Kinnick and it's a beautiful place to play in
an institutional, an institution like college town and area and campus.
It's beautiful. And he's going to make my next guest
going to make the four and a half hour drive
or so down there tomorrow morning. It's Ryan Burns from
Gopher Illustrated dot Com. Gopher Singular Illustrated dot com is
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where you get all the hot intel. It's where I
go for Gopher bits. And he's in studio at Ryan
Burns m N via X. How you doing, man, I'm
doing well. How are you? Thanks for you today? Well,
it's it's mostly good. I mean, you know, life life.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I just listening another way in I know you guys
are going through it a little bit right now.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, well it was just I mean, it was as
bad as it got. I mean, whatever whatever you thought
off of the lack of accuracy from the QB and
and Jalen Hurts buying himself a little extra time with
a week pass rush and he's finding aj Brown and
Devonte Smith all over the place. Short week chargers of
law three to four can't run the ball to save
their lives. This is a little bounce back opportunity. No,
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it was one of the most devastating and pathetic dominating
performances by an adversary that we've seen in quite a while. So,
I mean, in twenty twenty two, I think you win
at Buffalo Crazy game as that was you get throttled
by the Cowboys. A week later. Yeah, that was Tony
Pollard running all over this So that was a forty
to three bit at home that was kind of nasty.
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But this one feels different. And they're three and four
the college team, not three and four, they're five and two.
But I want to get this, So, you were on
X last night.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Made the mistake of giving a Vikings opinion on X,
which I don't know that I'll ever do again.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So you I did not know. And maybe this is
like an insulation thing for when you're out in the
in the tree stand and you got that bow ready,
ready to find that ten point buck sitting out there.
Last night. We're trying Norda, We're trying to get you
some venison. But I wasn't aware that that wrapping yourself
in tinfoil was an effective way to shield maybe the
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human scent such that a deer may pick up on.
Because apparently via X your thought was, you know you
want you want to see Brosmer. I know you do.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I think we all wanted to see anyone. I mean,
Carson Wentz nearly died out on the field last night.
It was at a lawsuit against the Wolves for them
continue to trot him out there.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And he wasn't going to pull himself out of the game. No,
you needed, you know, whether it's the medical staff, you needed, the.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Coach, someone needed to help Carson help himself there, help
help help help you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah. Absolutely, they did not until I mean just the
depths of the game where it just didn't matter. I
some could say maybe late stages of the first half
it already didn't matter, but you know that's subjective. You're
thinking that they're not putting Brozmer in because there is
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a potential optics issue where this team invested in the
tenth overall pick. Loved the former Wolverine. He gets hurt
rookie season. He can't help that, but he's back and
he's healthy, and you don't do anything about Rogers. You
let Darnold go. You gave Daniel Jones actually more money
than the Colts did, but you told him come back
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to be a backup. And Shane Steikin's, you know, probably
whispering in his ear. It's Anthony Richardson. Think man, Let's
just say it's in your best interest to come to
Indianatois and now here he is with the Colts. But
that's okay because we got JJ McCarthy and then of
course Carson Wentz would join later in the equation. Sam
Howell wasn't very good and Brett Rippen may just not
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have it and maybe he is a career backup and
I forget where he is now, but he's not on
our team. So we got Carson. They're not putting in
the undrafted cat who was the talk of camp.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Who beat out those two former quarterbacks to get the spot.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
By the way, he was undrafted probably only probably because
he only had one year in the Big ten and
they couldn't really figure out how to you know, Okay,
New Hampshire this, and yeah, it was a pretty nice season.
But Pj's team runs it so much and he goes
undrafted and he beats he wins a job on the
fifty three. As rare as that is for a QB.
KO is not putting him in there. You're saying, with
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your tinfoil hat on in the tree stand because the
optics would be awful. If Brozemer shows out, which just.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Shows anything is kind of where I'm at with just
shows a pulse.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, you think about the second half of last night's game.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Again, I'm casual Vikings guy, but I watched all I
do throughout the week is watch college football. I watch
a ton of football. They're doing this for a very
long time. And there's just no way you can look
me dead in the eye and say that, especially as
that game went on and I'm watching Carson Wentz just
grimace in excruciating pain, and he's taking some of the
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worst sacks I've seen. And yeah, the offensive line's no good, sure,
but Carson's holding onto the ball too long.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And I know I've seen a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I've seen more Max Brozmer than probably many people listening
to this, so good for me. That's not the point
with this is what if he does play okay, right,
and then JJ comes back next week and it continues
to look like it's looked for a majority of the season.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
What does that look like if you have Brozemer just
look like he has a pulse.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean, that's the whole thing with the bit is
I still think that Brozemer could have been quarterback two.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Now you can't go into the season.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I'm not illogical, and I'm not justin garb with Brozmer
Brownstones and things like that. I understand the optics of
what a UDFA rookie quarterback is. QB two in the
NFL looks like even for a quarterback whisperer.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So is it like.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Lindsey Lofts now, like, what do we do with Drake Lindley? Yeah,
we got a couple of years hopefully to figure all
that out.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We'll get to that. But the Brozemer Brownstone, so you
it wasn't you clearly had to have an established veteran, Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But if Carson continues to play like he has and
he's also clearly hurt, what, yeah, you're down three scores
on the road. Anyway, this game is over. It doesn't
matter your defense can't get pressure, and it doesn't. It
is what it is, So why not see what the
kid has for the final twenty minutes of the game.
And that's where I've just been doing this long enough
to know. I know a lot of people listening don't
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believe the optics of it should matter. I know this
market at least good enough to know it matters more
than you think, which I think you and I both
would say we don't agree with right, that shouldn't matter.
Finding out what you have should matter and not the
optics of the first round or versus the UDFA. But
that's the only thing I could truly think about.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Is I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I watched Max Brosemann a lot go to a short,
quick passing game, which if you don't have an offensive
line that can pass protect for three and a half seconds,
I've watched Max do it long enough that he can
go out and implement something.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Doesn't it seem like that would be a good problem
to have, though it will put max In and he
actually does play pretty well. Now, certainly you have the
first round pick, and he's just by nature of the
draft pick investment, he's going to get the he's going
to get the lie and share of op saying.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You shouldn't You got to find out what you have
in JJ because he can't stay on the field.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You certainly do. Yeah, but that seems like it'ld be
a good problem to have if the undrafted kid plays
pretty well. What do we know? We're just a couple
of schmucks on the radio, right, No, that's it, one
hundred schmuck is the is the is the keyword there?
At least for me. I won't speak for you. You're
the year the expert. You know, I've never heard I've
never seen you this uh, this hard on Pj's team. See,
you got a little loose on the pros here, But
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I see how I see how it works to that end,
do you think, uh, do you think Carson is is
a little bit? And then we'll get to the college team.
You think Carson's like I mean, I basically I was
a sacrificial lamb out there, Oh for sure, And in
five years I'm not going to be able to change
a light bulb or grab something off the top shelf
with my left arm. So JJ McCarthy better be damn
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good Oh my goodness, you better be damn since I
can't play catch with my kids in a decade after
the shoulder thing.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Did you see the shot of him? I think it
was like three or five minutes left in the fourth quarter.
He is leaned back on the bench, looking up at
the scoreboard, just desponded, just contemplating life. All I could
picture the song playing in his head was Hello Darkness,
my old friend.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I can That's how I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He felt after taking hit after hit after hit after hit. Yeah,
I could continue to go with that, but yeah, there
was a sacrificial lamb aspect of that game. And if
I'm koc, whether it's Brozemur or whether it would have
been x y Z quarterback, put somebody else out there
just to let him take the hits.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
If that's the point, no, I I have just so
much respect for Carson. I just I think the experiment,
the experiment does need to end. And with ten days
until the Lions game at Ford Field, I am I'm
starting to push the chips in that JJ's just going
to practice all week and he's going to be the
guy at Ford Field because the bit ain't working. I'm
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with you to the Gophers. The bit has been working.
The can we replicate in some ways in completely different scenarios?
Obviously between what you know? Is it? Is it safe
to say I said it with Greenway? Is this Dylan
Rayola thing like just a hardcore Pat Mahome cosplay affair here,
because from the hair, to the shades, to the walk,
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even to how he actually on the field in some
ways tries to manipulate the situation. I mean, it's good
to have role models and heroes. That was freaking out canny,
but we sacked him nine times and dominated him in
the Huskers. Can we replicate that again different qbs, different scenarios,
But can we bring that down to Iowa City tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That is the question. I mean, you've been talking about
a Greenway. You've asked me here, why is the line
eight and a half nine and a half whatever it is?
Because this Gopher football team has not been consistent week
to week. I don't know what team's going to show
up tomorrow. And that's from the guy who covers this program.
Every single day of his life and has for fifteen years.
Is this is a go for football team in twenty
twenty five, that just thirteen days ago against Purdue, that
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defense allowed four hundred and fifty total yards over two
hundred and fifty on the ground, had no sacks and
forty something dropbacks, and then on a short week at
home against Patrick, Mahomes sacked them a program record nine times.
I mean, if you knew what you were getting on
a given week from this team, it'd be a lot
easier to the words of the man coming in at
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eleven o'clock prognosticate what it's going to look like. But
this is a Gopher football team that hasn't traveled well
so far this year on the road. They're zero and
two now. They also haven't played a road game when
the sun has still been up. And they went out
to Berkeley and it was kind of cursed where it
was a nine to thirty pm kickoff local time. They
fell apart after midnight local time. Then they were the
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sacrificial lamb for Ohio State on their homecoming.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, you can't really say they haven't played well on
the road. I mean, let's just kind of focus in
on that col game, and I know, you know, these
players get up for games and there's always a chance
to win. Everyone pragmatically, there was not a chance that
they were coming out of Ohio Stadium. No, the shoot,
I think Ohio.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
State is clearly the best team in college football, and
they have been all season. I mean, they are just
as the kids would say, they are a wagon right now,
anybody they run into, just toying with their opponents at
the stage trying to get healthy to the college football playoff.
Julian Sayan looks incredible and that they.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Allowed more than a touchdown to like anybody. I mean
maybe like Donoi was able to put up a couple
of touchdowns on him, but that was about it. I mean,
they've got two first round receivers and Jeremiah Smith and
two NFL drafts Carnel Tait next year. They've got a
Heisman guy quarterback, They've got a first They've got first
round picks on a defense. Matt Patricia is thinking to himself, Haha, Belichick,
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you thought like we couldn't do this thing without you.
Here I am in college now making this thing work.
So when you look at them going down to Iowa,
City again. They haven't won back to back games in
Iowa City in over forty years. I mean, it has
been a house of horrors for them. Now they won
twelve to ten two years ago with the bit they've
done it. But that is such a difficult football team
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in such a difficult environment, especially now that this is
the first time Hawkeye fans have seen this Gopher team
since the invalid signal that was heard around the world,
which I still think was correctly called because of course
you do well. I haven't seen too many pump returners,
especially elite ones like Cooper de Gen put out his
arm to the side there and kind of give a
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little wave over to the hospital like they're going to
do in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Will also do after the first quarter there. But it's
going to be a fun environment. I mean, that ninety
eight pound bronze pig. It means a lots of both
band bases. I know that this Gopher football team and
the staff, They've got a lot of respect for Kirk
Farrence and Phil Parker and what they do down there.
All they do is win eight games every year, which
is so difficult to do in college football, and it
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is a fascinating game to kind of get into.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
This Gophers team. What do you think Pj's learned about
this group? And maybe you've learned it and we all
have just by watching the games where the ability to
win with Drake lindsay, when you couldn't run the ball
to save your life to you in a lot of ways,
not that Drake. I mean, Drake wasn't bad against Nebraska
at all, but it was also the first time now
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that we really saw Darius Taylor come to life, and man,
we needed it. I wish you would have gotten into
the end zone there. It stinks that he stepped out
at the one, yep, But what do you think he's
learned about this team and kind of trying to balance
developing the kid probably banging his head against the wall
with this run game situation. The O line kind of
finding their way along throughout this just very wonky despite
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being five and two. I would say they're wonky in
terms of what we can get out of the run game.
And then again just continuing to see the growth of
the young QB. Yeah, the young QBU as.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I think what we've learned the most about is that
Minnesota's I think got a special one here in Drake lindsay,
if you were to have told me, and I thought
I was high coming into the year on him, But
through his first seven career starts, he's got ten touchdowns
only three giveaways, which I think is a very important
stat for a young quarterback completely number sixty percent of
his passes. I mean, they this offense overall has one
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giveaway in four big ten. I mean they have been
very good in that regard, and that's without largely a
running game. Going into that Nebraska game last week, they
were averaging forty four rushing yards per game. Now, I
see it on your hat, and you're wearing a nice
little row of the Boat hat for PG and I'm
sure he appreciates that. Yeah, but our TV doesn't just
stand for row the boat in Dinky Town.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It stands for run the ball. Oh, it does.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And they hadn't been able to run the ball until
Darius came back last week. They've had four different offensive
line combinations and for their last four games, so they're
trying to figure it out. We'll see if they stick
with the same one in Iowa City. Four different line combos.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Different guys in different spots. Team has had sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, well, there's only so many games for this college team,
so they're trying. They're trying to figure it out up front.
It's trying to continue to build around Drake though. I
mean that's the thing with this is I don't think
the Buchnic environment is going to fluster him too much.
We've seen him in front of one hundred thousand in
Columbus and I thought he played largely very well.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's hot, does the offensive line hold up?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
But I just think what we've learned is it could
be pretty fun here with Drake, and I think Drake
is the player I thought Athan Kelly Acmanus is going
to be the biggest difference being with Drake, and you're
able to see it at the line is he's got
Max Brosmer's processor at a young age. They do as
much motion and shifts, and Drake has the ability to
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adjust things with the line of scrimmage to what he
sees in the motion. And they tried to emulate kind
of an NFL offense. And I know that I was
talking to Tanner Morgan and I saw that he wrote
about it with chipskog Is. The Star community calls it
vikings junior with this offense, trying to give Drake as
much information pre snap as he can handle and then
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he can make an adjustment to get them into the
right look. I mean, he is just a freshman, and
it's exciting to see a quarterback in Dinky Town be
able to know what he's looking for, adjust things at
the line, and you got to live in the moment.
I know everybody wants to talk about, well, we'll see
what happens after the season.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I feel like we did that last year with Coy Perrich.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I feel like we did that the last two years
with Darius Taylor, and last I saw they're going to
be very impactful players from Minnesota on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
The growth process with Drake, you think you think any
of that plays into the run game. I just I wonder,
you know, if he's getting multiple options, yes, he's gonna
he's gonna make mistakes along the way here, and maybe
maybe that's part of just kind of finding the right
time to pull the string on this play or we
run into this side of the line and just making
those those checks, you know, kind of living with some
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of those mistakes and those learning experiences along the way too.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, the offensive coordinator Greg Harbow and quarterback Drake Lindsay
have talked about that in recent weeks that they're getting
They're trying to get Drake better at getting them into
the right run looks where if they come out expecting
this look off the motion, well, Drake's got to be
able to then understand, Okay, I got to adjust to
play here or check from the id from say the
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one technique defensive tackle. So let's go to the mic
linebacker instead. Get the guys up front knowing where they're
supposed to be blocking. That is certainly part of the
run game issues. It's not just the offensive line. It
also doesn't help this running offense that they missed Darius
Taylor for a month. Yeah, and Darius Taylor finally looked
like Darius Taylor last week, and they're gonna need him
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down in Iowa City. But yeah, that is the part
of the learning curve for a young quarterback, especially with
all the things they continue to put on his shoulders,
is he's only gonna get better in theory.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
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A pig though, the elusive squealing pig. One and seven,
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Speaker 1 (19:07):
You're listening to the fans, all right, So I was
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sold a bill of goods. By the way, I don't
know how how much you follow the Bison.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I mean it's a big one. It's a big one
coming up here. Code a marker game, right, that's Tim
polse X crew.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Here's some sort of boulder or a physical rock on
the line the marker and it is just a rock right.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I'm also disappointed that college game Day isn't going to
be the But can you imagine the pre production meeting
with those folks trying to convince Nick Saban to go
to Brooking, South Dakota instead of Nashville.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Can you?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I say this with the utmost peace and love to
the folks in the Dakota's.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay, I've spent I've spent time off their times in Brookings.
I'm a big fan of the Dakotas.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But can you imagine trying to convince Sabin we're going where?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, we're not going there.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Even though I just listened to Saban on College game
Day last.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Week, if he would make it a party, oh my goodness,
would enjoy himself.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
There'd be some tomfoolery and skullduggery out there there.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Certainly would well, you know, go Bison go. I think
South Dakota they they've held serve at home against the
Bison in recent years. South Dakota State. We got to
make that in part. You're right, Yes, I apologize South Dakota.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
State because we're gonna be talking about their former quarterback,
who I'm sure they wish that they had there this
weekend to help beat the Bison and Mark Ronowski down
there at Iowa. But yes, that's so. That's where I
was sold to Bill of Goods. Okay, I heard this is.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Like, hey, guys, turn on the tv. Iowa has a
QB that can throw it. That's not true. He hasn't
found his way through the air. Has an eclipsed. I
don't even think two hundred yards in a game, but
he is. He's got some legs and he's working his
way on the ground. Him and Molten providing and I
think I can't remember if it was Washington or another cat.
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They might be working through some injuries or some health
issues with their running backs at this point. But is
it Kamani or Kamari Kamari Moulton. Kamari Moulton. He's going
to be kind of their lead back this weekend, but
him and Granowski on the ground serves to be quite
a challenge for Pj's team. It is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
The Mark Gronowski experience has been very interesting for the
first i'll say two months down there in Iowa City
because they take him from South Dakota State and he
has the offseason shoulder surgery. Misses all of springball, gets
back over the summer and then has not been able
to be the passer that he was out there in Brookings.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I hear they think, you know, kind of like Jake
Browning in the Washington days, that the shoulder situation has
impacted him. There's the only thing that makes sense to
me as to why.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And I was looking at the stats earlier this week
and I didn't exactly believe them.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
But it's true.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He's got no passing touchdowns in five picks against Power
four teams this year. Okay, they're only throwing it for
about one hundred and thirty yards per game in those games,
quick though, but where he is just so good and
he was out there for South Dakota State as well
as he's got ten rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I mean, he is lethal in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You saw it last week two with a seventy yard
scamper against Penn State. He's got more rushing touchdowns himself
than the entire Gopher football team. As we talked about
in the first segment, RTB means doesn't mean just me
and row the boat's run the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Run the ball.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And he has been so so good in the red
zone for them, and that's going to be the biggest
key for Danny Collins in this Gopher defense is take
away Gronowski's legs, make him beat you with his arm.
Because it's not just Gronowski, it's also their pass catching cord.
They're without their best tight end out for the year
because of injuries, They've been banged up at receiver, and
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then these interceptions. I watched one last week against Penn State,
just bounced off the guys essentially his chest into the
arms of a Penn State defender. I'm thinking to myself,
that's going to go down as an interception.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
But that's not Gronowski's fault.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Right Where Iowa is so good this year, and you
mentioned Kamari Molten in the run game in Gronowski is
They're averaging almost two hundred yards a game on the
ground and they have one of the best offensive lines,
not only in the Big Ten, but in college football.
You look at PFF and you and I both agree
on this. I know it that PFF grades not the
end all be all for anything, certainly very much so
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that is correct. But you look at who they can
be useful. They can be useful, and where I'm going
with this is you look at who the top five
graded players are on the Iowa offense. That's left tackle,
the right tackle, and they are all very very good.
I mean, I'm watching guys like Brandon Thorn do cut
ups about them. That center and the right tackle are
going to be NFL top one hundred draft picks next year.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
They're very good upfront.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
And I think a lot of Gopher fans remember what
they did in the second half against against their team
in hunting A Bank Stadium last year where Caleb Johnson
went absolutely bonkers in that whole game went pair shaped
very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's going to be the thing, is if you can.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Just dedicate yourself to stopping the run, which is a
lot easier said than done for many teams against Iowa
so far this year, and make Gronowski beat you with
his arm. Now, I'm also aware that many Iowa quarterbacks
have played like this coming into the Gopher game again
for the Pig Floyda Rosedale in the bit and then
the reincarnation of Brad Banks, or you can pick your
(24:34):
favorite Iowa quarterback over the years they come to play.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I remember the Alex Paedia bit a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Comes in as the backup, and it's just slinging that
thing all over the and I know that Mike grim
is somewhere just losing his mind because that's happening. But
they have to be able to stop the run on Saturday.
You can't stop the run. This thing won't be close.
You have to stop the run on Saturday if you're Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
So is this going to look like the was it
the Purdue game where they went for like two sick?
Well that's that. That was my point. I mean, you
get to pick six and you still win it over
the boiler Makers, but my goodness, was that frustrating to watch.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Well that's the recipe for Saturday is if you are
going to give up that many rushing yards, you better
be at least plus I mean, they were plus three
in the take gift that day is you cannot go
into Iowa City. And maybe the maybe even a bigger
key than stopping the run is going to be you
have to be at least plus two in the take gift.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yep, you can't go into Iowa City if you're PJ.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Fleck and he loves to try to do what Iowa
does on any given week and that's just control the clock,
run the ball, play good defense, make the other team
beat themselves. You're not going to out Iowa, Iowa in
Iowa City. That's a lot of Iowa's there. But that's
my point is you got to be at least plus two,
and that's where they were I think a couple of
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years ago when Athan calliag Manus and then that whole
bit they went in one twelve to ten. I think
they were plus two or three in the take gift
that day. If you are just even and neither team
turns over the ball, I was going to win this game.
That's the way this thing goes in Iowa City. So
they got to find a way to turn over Gonowski
at least a couple of times, and then the offense
has to capitalize on those opportunities.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, bcembrace yourself for this. Big time Gophers opinion probably
Nordo nine to noon in for Papa and Studio, about
twenty some minutes from now. Twenty minutes from now, we'll
call it. They've averaged fourteen points per game on offense
over their last six, specifically fourteen they won with twelve. Okay,
took a weird play at the end of the game
(26:32):
to get there. A couple of years ago talking about
Minnesota's offense against Iowa, Minnesota's offense man fourteen twelve, ten
twenty two, whoa offensive explosion? Seven nineteen, last six years. Man,
they cannot find their way into the end zone at
a high level down there, and that has to change.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's a lot, yes, and I wish I had the
answer to how does that change?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's Jalen Smith, the Mankato kid.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, we just got to get the piano off his
back when he was trying to get to into the
end zone there.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Now he I did watch that backs.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I know there were some text messages exchanged between some people.
Looked like he banged his knee the play before. And
you look, you're a high level athlete. Many people have
said that about your time down there in Mankato. Look
at you, I mean, come on now, you are mediocre
high school goalkeeper?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Was was my uh? I was listed as a prep
phenom once or twice in the oh look at you,
Mankato free press, Yeah, shut out against Winona, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Big to you know, well, you've often told me if
you bang knees against somebody, it's gonna hurt for a
few minutes there and after that play he did go
into the injury ten and then was testing some things
on the sidelines and hit.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That's his bit, is Jalen Smith. Mankato kid needs to infori.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
In theory is among the fastest players on this team,
and who's a great one hundred meter guy down there
for Mankato West as well.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
But they've got to find ways to.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
As you said, I mean, it's easier said than done
against Phil Parker. Phil Parker is one of the best
defensive coordinators in college football. But I look at this
IOWA team and think this isn't the twenty eighteen creatures
that head running around where it was Jack Campbell, aj Epanessa,
Chauncey Golston, among others.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And they were very, very good.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And they do have the Ragning Big Ten Player of
the Week at safety and Exavier to Walkba former five
star guy. But they have to find ways to When
you do get across Iowa's thirty yard line, you got
to convince the head coach to go for the jugular,
go for the shots in the end zone, go for
things that aren't going to result in a field goal.
Because playing for seven in Iowa City is what's going
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to win you a football game, not playing for three.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
There you go, I dig that. Just one or two
more for you here. I got several on this, but
I'll just read the most recent one from Tom. Is
there enough money in the Huntington Bank vault to keep
Drake and Maroony Gold? I just and I get it,
I get it. But that has to be one of
the most common questions you're getting now that we are
seeing Drake. You mentioned we're onto something special with him,
(28:52):
and just in the NIL universe, it's just, well, he's gone.
It's obvious he's going to be gone. He'll find his
way to the SEC next season, and maybe he replaces
Pavia down at Vanderbilt now that they're trying to build
something down there at some point. But you get my
point is everyone you see something you love and you're
immediately forlorn and the foreboding nature of well, he's obviously
(29:14):
going to leave in the portal next year. Any opinion
on that at all, or just enjoy what you're watching
at the moment you think he's gone.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, justin Guard three to six thirty and myself and
Chipscoggins from the Start Tribute. We have a podcast called
Paronis Parra.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's awesome for radio app.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It is and Justin went off on this this week
because we do get it a lot, and I understand
the question.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I don't blame people for asking the question. I would
just ask them this.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I heard it last year with Coy Parrots when he's
enjoying a first team All Big Ten season. I heard
it two years ago when it was Darius Taylor. I
heard it three years ago when it was Arion Terras three.
Joh Joyner, you don't have to be the highest one.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
In the room to keep people.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Now, there is enough money I believe between Dinkytown athletes
and the House Settlement that now the universe, he can
pay football players over fourteen million dollars. Now that's spread
out across all hundred something bodies, and we'll see what
Fleck and his general manager elect to give Drake. I
would also encourage people to look into Drake Lindsay's background
and see where he comes from. Where his grandfather, I believe,
(30:17):
was intertwined in business with someone who built a gigantic
stadium for the Dallas Cowboys. You may have heard of
him Jerry Jones. Those two were business partners together.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, which means he's going to go back to Arkansas.
I just know. I look, the rooms are worried.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I understand that they're worried because anytime something good happens
in Minnesota sports. And I'll be the first one to
tell you, I'm a nineteen ninety two baby. I haven't
seen a pro sports team make a championship game in
my lifetime. For male pro sports teams, I know we
got to throw out that thing. I mean, I've seen
one hundred and twenty some seasons of it. Like anytime
something good happens, it's this market and I know it. Again,
(30:58):
I covered Gopher football for a lit What do you
think I grew up in in those Mason years of
the Brewster years. So I just would tell your your
point is what this person just texted in Nordo.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
His family is loaded. The Lindsay's have their own suite.
So you're saying it's not it's not about money for
in my theory. My theory, and again I'm closer to
it than a lot of people. And understand that I
think that Drake Lindsay knows what his offensive coordinator and
Greg Harbo put the belief in him.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
The same with Fleck. There's comfort in that too, there
is in the growth. There is a lot of comfort
in that. And look, if somebody wants to come in
and offer Drake, Drake Lindsay Carson Beck money. For those
of you who don't know Carson Beck is, he's Miami's quarterback.
They took him from Georgia. I think he's reportedly getting
over four million a year. I mean, that's how crazy
this thing can be. And I think Drake Lindsay is
worth multi millions of dollars in this market if he
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wants it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean, it doesn't always have to be about the money. Sometimes,
if you think.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
The Arkansas kid wants to be I mean, do you
think he's Miami Lanbamborghini guy. Look, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I know that Drake Lindsay is one of us where
he grew up going duck hunting in the timber down
there with his dad.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I mean, I think I think Carson Beck might need
some more. And we're just a college eligibility because I
don't think it's going to work in the NFL for
all back. Yeah, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Look, it's every situation is different. And I'm sure when
Arkansas does hire someone, and I even think about back
when when Fleck loves to talk about how he went
to his state championship game. You know who the Arkansas
newly hired offensive coordinated was that showed up at that
game trying to get in the ear of the Lindsay
family saying you should stay home. Bobby Patrino, who's now
the interim head coach.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
For the Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Look, I'm sure whoever the next razorback head coach is
going to look at the Lindsay's and.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Second Patrino like moped side piece bit. Yes, now Bobby
Patrino is.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Newly hired, he gets fired and then rehired because the
SEC we don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
We just want results.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It's a whole different bit down there than it is
up here in Big ten Country. Oh my goodness. All right,
enough of that. But anything is possible. You are to
I just I'm not worried about it right now.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Last last thing you doubted the Maroon and Gold a
week ago, I did. I picked Nebraska. I did, Oh, yeah,
what are we doing this time around? Because I was
reading your website and you had it looked like some
cohorts from Iowa. There was a very black and gold,
black and yellow tinted vibe to some of the analysis
and there leading up to this game. Where are we
(33:24):
going this time? I'm gonna lean Iowa right now.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think eight and a half, nine and a half
wherever you want to find it at your favorite sports
book is too many points for me?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, I think this is a game that both teams
want to do.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
And I'll tell you this. PJ. Fleck loves UFC big.
He's a huge UFC guy and.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He's talked about all week that an Iowa type of
game is jab here, jab there, and then you try
to land one, one or two and you can't give
up the big play on the other side. And so
I think it's gonna be a low scoring affair. But
I worry about the Iowa offensive line. They are just
they have been very good. This go for defensive line
has been incredibly, incan assistent for folks who do turn
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on the game two thirty on CBS watch number double
zero for the Gophers on defense. He is the next
top sixty overall draft pick for them. Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith,
he has got nineteen and a half tackles for loss
in his last fourteen games. He currently leads the Big
Ten in sacks. He's one of the least talked about
players in the Big Ten for how good he is
and how good he will continue to be. They need
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him to shine. And then the boy from Esco cooy Perrich.
He complain he needs to have his best tackling specific
game of this season because if this offensive line is
going to do what I think they're going to do,
and that's climb to the second level, get on the
Gopher linebackers, that's going to be cooy Perrich, carry Brown
Aiden Goosby one on one in space with Gronowski or
Kamari Molten. He's got to make the tackle to make
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it second and three. You miss that, the seven yard
game turns into fifty seven and this thing gets pair
shaped in a hurry. It's got to be one of
bet Coy Parritch's best games.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Of the year. I dig it man, thanks for all
you do with Gopher Illustrated. Thank you. You know whether
it's pair in the space and you're always apt to
come and hang out in studio when we ask and
we appreciate it. Brother, I appreciate you. At Ryan Burns
mn via X again tomorrow two thirty, Kinnick, mister Burns
will be there and hopefully that pig will be coming
back to Minnesota. I O'Ryan's driving down by himself. Maybe
(35:16):
he'll volunteer to bring Floyd back up to campus. I
think that'd be really nice of him to do that.
The second out, well, final hour is coming up with
with Pa in studio. But a little bit of news
next on the Fantas season. What up? Short segment expecting
Pa and here let's call it ten twelve minutes or so.
I'm excited to see the host after Sadly, the welcome
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beat down that he watched the team and duer last
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(36:48):
on opening night against Anthony Edwards and the Wolves. The
next morning he's getting arrested by the FBI, and there's
this illegal poker ring thing where he's luring in big
timers to play and basically brigg to poker games and
take all their money. I was watching something somebody had
posted a video. It's like a poker podcast from like
twenty twenty three where somebody who's openly talking about like,
(37:11):
you know, I there's something wrong with that game. And
I just wonder how everything's digital now. There's so much
information that's immediately available where you know, everyone's got a
podcast now too, right, So I just wonder how long
the rumor mill was pushing before some of this came
to fruition. The FBI clearly has been investigating this for
a number of years. Damon Jones also in the mix,
(37:33):
Terry Rogier. He's just trying to get a pizza and
some chicken wings. Like Sean Holmes in the Bubble, He's
arrested outside a hotel in Orlando. So the thing's weird,
the thing's awful, and just waiting for more dominoes to
fall on that. Meanwhile, the World Series begins tonight Dodgers
and Jays in Toronto. The Dodgers heavily favored in this series.
(37:55):
They've lost one game all postseason, and I've seen Dodger
fans complaining about their bullpen a bit. Is that the
is that the Achilles Heel in terms of in terms
of their entire operation. But it's still pretty good, by
the way. And oh, when you have Yamamoto and some
of these guys rolling complete games in the postseason, well
that's a thing. So they do a pretty good job
(38:16):
protecting them. By the way, they hit for a hit
for a million. The Jays they're hitting three hundred as
a squad right now. Springer and vlad I think they
have ten or eleven home runs in the postseason combined. Yeah,
varshow and Luke's a couple of guys helping big time.
It's a fun matchup, But doesn't it feel again, the
Dodgers have just mowed people down. And the brew Crew
(38:39):
brew Crew, certainly with Miserowski and some pitching, you know,
they weren't built for ten run games on a nightly
basis and an absolute offensive shootout. But the way that
they were just absolutely neutralized in that NLCS series was
concerning if you're you know, whether you were going to
be the Mariners or in this case, the Blue Jays.
Just what the what the Dodgers were able to do
(39:00):
and Otani, of course, the unicorn game in that finale
against the Brewers, the three home runs, the ten K's
unbelievable performance. Weird thing with Otani, kind of a meh
postseason leading up to that game, and he wasn't very
good last year either, But like the worst player on
their team is Max Munsey hitting at four hundred in
(39:20):
the right center. So it feels like the obvious answer
in the end is the Dodgers, although this series, if
it was to go seven, four of them are going
to be in Canada, up in Toronto at the Rodgers Center.
I saw this via fan duel for the Dodgers to
win in four games plus five fifty five games plus
two fifty six plus two ten and seven plus two
(39:45):
thirty five. Again, I need maybe I need to ask
Otani speaking of betting and such and weird stuff going on,
maybe I need to ask Otani's old interpreter. But the
FanDuel odds, I'm feeling five games for the Dodgers. We'll
see Wolves tonight. No Lebron with the pecad sciatic the
nerve issue, all us old guys can relate. Certainly, Luca
went for forty plus and the loss to Jimmy Butler
(40:07):
and Steph Curry and the opener. Curry went off last
night again. By the way, some sweet ot games taking place.
I think Aaron Gordon, of all people for the Nugs
last night went for fifty hit ten triples. Then you
have what was a fifty five to fifty six points
by SGA, and just some fun, weird games taking place
early in the season. Every game can be different, but
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it was all Luca and Austin Reeves the other night,
and I wonder if that kind of stays the same.
DeAndre Ay and working his way in It's kind of
scrub city. Outside of that, I'm hoping that the Wolves
aren't losing games because of Gabe, Vincent, Hatchamura, Jackson, Hayes,
et cetera. But Marcus Smart, he only got twenty three
minutes in the opener. He is not the Marcus Smart
(40:50):
of the Boston Celtics days, certainly not even maybe Marcus
Smart of the when he was able to take the
freaking court in Memphis. However, Marcus Smart at one point
was like that bulldog that when you just needed some
defense and you needed attitude, you needed to irritate the
other team's best scorer, you just let him off the
leash and he goes to work. So I'm curious if
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Marcus Smart albeit maybe in limited minutes plays a factor
into this game. Wolves are favored in LA. I hope
they win, so we'll see NFL matchups. Maybe we get
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and then hopefully by Monday we can go full force ahead.
Who's going to be playing QB and how are we
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going to beat them? Kiddies? But final hour is around
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Second hour nor to win for p A, although p
A p A is going to be in studio at
eleven looking forward to catching up with him. Save travels
took place back from la and so far the disaster
last night and hopefully looking for something better. Nine and
a half point dogs. That's a little heavy, to be
honest with you. But the Minnesota Golden Gophers are at
the Iowa Hawkeyes tomorrow. It's a two thirty pm kickoff
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an institutional, an institution like college town and area and campus.
It's beautiful. And he's going to make my next guest
going to make the four and a half hour drive
or so down there tomorrow morning. It's Ryan Burns from
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Burns m N via X. How you doing, man, I'm
doing well. How are you? Thanks for you today? Well,
it's it's mostly good. I mean, you know, life life.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I just listening another way in I know you guys
are going through it a little bit right now.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, well it was just I mean, it was as
bad as it got. I mean, whatever whatever you thought
off of the lack of accuracy from the QB and
and Jalen Hurts buying himself a little extra time with
a week pass rush and he's finding aj Brown and
Devonte Smith all over the place. Short week chargers of
law three to four can't run the ball to save
their lives. This is a little bounce back opportunity. No,
(02:05):
it was one of the most devastating and pathetic dominating
performances by an adversary that we've seen in quite a while. So,
I mean, in twenty twenty two, I think you win
at Buffalo Crazy game as that was you get throttled
by the Cowboys. A week later. Yeah, that was Tony
Pollard running all over this So that was a forty
to three bit at home that was kind of nasty.
(02:25):
But this one feels different. And they're three and four
the college team, not three and four, they're five and two.
But I want to get this, So, you were on
X last night.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Made the mistake of giving a Vikings opinion on X,
which I don't know that I'll ever do again.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So you I did not know. And maybe this is
like an insulation thing for when you're out in the
in the tree stand and you got that bow ready,
ready to find that ten point buck sitting out there.
Last night. We're trying Norda, We're trying to get you
some venison. But I wasn't aware that that wrapping yourself
in tinfoil was an effective way to shield maybe the
(02:59):
human scent such that a deer may pick up on.
Because apparently via X your thought was, you know you
want you want to see Brosmer. I know you do.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I think we all wanted to see anyone. I mean,
Carson Wentz nearly died out on the field last night.
It was at a lawsuit against the Wolves for them
continue to trot him out there.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And he wasn't going to pull himself out of the game. No,
you needed, you know, whether it's the medical staff, you needed, the.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Coach, someone needed to help Carson help himself there, help
help help help you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah. Absolutely, they did not until I mean just the
depths of the game where it just didn't matter. I
some could say maybe late stages of the first half
it already didn't matter, but you know that's subjective. You're
thinking that they're not putting Brozmer in because there is
(03:50):
a potential optics issue where this team invested in the
tenth overall pick. Loved the former Wolverine. He gets hurt
rookie season. He can't help that, but he's back and
he's healthy, and you don't do anything about Rogers. You
let Darnold go. You gave Daniel Jones actually more money
than the Colts did, but you told him come back
(04:11):
to be a backup. And Shane Steikin's, you know, probably
whispering in his ear. It's Anthony Richardson. Think man, Let's
just say it's in your best interest to come to
Indianatois and now here he is with the Colts. But
that's okay because we got JJ McCarthy and then of
course Carson Wentz would join later in the equation. Sam
Howell wasn't very good and Brett Rippen may just not
(04:33):
have it and maybe he is a career backup and
I forget where he is now, but he's not on
our team. So we got Carson. They're not putting in
the undrafted cat who was the talk of camp.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Who beat out those two former quarterbacks to get the spot.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
By the way, he was undrafted probably only probably because
he only had one year in the Big ten and
they couldn't really figure out how to you know, Okay,
New Hampshire this, and yeah, it was a pretty nice season.
But Pj's team runs it so much and he goes
undrafted and he beats he wins a job on the
fifty three. As rare as that is for a QB.
KO is not putting him in there. You're saying, with
(05:09):
your tinfoil hat on in the tree stand because the
optics would be awful. If Brozemer shows out, which just.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Shows anything is kind of where I'm at with just
shows a pulse.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, you think about the second half of last night's game.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Again, I'm casual Vikings guy, but I watched all I
do throughout the week is watch college football. I watch
a ton of football. They're doing this for a very
long time. And there's just no way you can look
me dead in the eye and say that, especially as
that game went on and I'm watching Carson Wentz just
grimace in excruciating pain, and he's taking some of the
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worst sacks I've seen. And yeah, the offensive line's no good, sure,
but Carson's holding onto the ball too long.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And I know I've seen a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I've seen more Max Brozmer than probably many people listening
to this, so good for me. That's not the point
with this is what if he does play okay, right,
and then JJ comes back next week and it continues
to look like it's looked for a majority of the season.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
What does that look like if you have Brozemer just
look like he has a pulse.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean, that's the whole thing with the bit is
I still think that Brozemer could have been quarterback two.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Now you can't go into the season.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I'm not illogical, and I'm not justin garb with Brozmer
Brownstones and things like that. I understand the optics of
what a UDFA rookie quarterback is. QB two in the
NFL looks like even for a quarterback whisperer.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So is it like.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Lindsey Lofts now, like, what do we do with Drake Lindley? Yeah,
we got a couple of years hopefully to figure all
that out.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We'll get to that. But the Brozemer Brownstone, so you
it wasn't you clearly had to have an established veteran, Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But if Carson continues to play like he has and
he's also clearly hurt, what, yeah, you're down three scores
on the road. Anyway, this game is over. It doesn't
matter your defense can't get pressure, and it doesn't. It
is what it is, So why not see what the
kid has for the final twenty minutes of the game.
And that's where I've just been doing this long enough
to know. I know a lot of people listening don't
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believe the optics of it should matter. I know this
market at least good enough to know it matters more
than you think, which I think you and I both
would say we don't agree with right, that shouldn't matter.
Finding out what you have should matter and not the
optics of the first round or versus the UDFA. But
that's the only thing I could truly think about.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Is I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I watched Max Brosemann a lot go to a short,
quick passing game, which if you don't have an offensive
line that can pass protect for three and a half seconds,
I've watched Max do it long enough that he can
go out and implement something.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Doesn't it seem like that would be a good problem
to have, though it will put max In and he
actually does play pretty well. Now, certainly you have the
first round pick, and he's just by nature of the
draft pick investment, he's going to get the he's going
to get the lie and share of op saying.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You shouldn't You got to find out what you have
in JJ because he can't stay on the field.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You certainly do. Yeah, but that seems like it'ld be
a good problem to have if the undrafted kid plays
pretty well. What do we know? We're just a couple
of schmucks on the radio, right, No, that's it, one
hundred schmuck is the is the is the keyword there?
At least for me. I won't speak for you. You're
the year the expert. You know, I've never heard I've
never seen you this uh, this hard on Pj's team. See,
you got a little loose on the pros here, But
(08:18):
I see how I see how it works to that end,
do you think, uh, do you think Carson is is
a little bit? And then we'll get to the college team.
You think Carson's like I mean, I basically I was
a sacrificial lamb out there, Oh for sure, And in
five years I'm not going to be able to change
a light bulb or grab something off the top shelf
with my left arm. So JJ McCarthy better be damn
(08:42):
good Oh my goodness, you better be damn since I
can't play catch with my kids in a decade after
the shoulder thing.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Did you see the shot of him? I think it
was like three or five minutes left in the fourth quarter.
He is leaned back on the bench, looking up at
the scoreboard, just desponded, just contemplating life. All I could
picture the song playing in his head was Hello Darkness,
my old friend.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I can That's how I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He felt after taking hit after hit after hit after hit. Yeah,
I could continue to go with that, but yeah, there
was a sacrificial lamb aspect of that game. And if
I'm koc, whether it's Brozemur or whether it would have
been x y Z quarterback, put somebody else out there
just to let him take the hits.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
If that's the point, no, I I have just so
much respect for Carson. I just I think the experiment,
the experiment does need to end. And with ten days
until the Lions game at Ford Field, I am I'm
starting to push the chips in that JJ's just going
to practice all week and he's going to be the
guy at Ford Field because the bit ain't working. I'm
(09:43):
with you to the Gophers. The bit has been working.
The can we replicate in some ways in completely different scenarios?
Obviously between what you know? Is it? Is it safe
to say I said it with Greenway? Is this Dylan
Rayola thing like just a hardcore Pat Mahome cosplay affair here,
because from the hair, to the shades, to the walk,
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even to how he actually on the field in some
ways tries to manipulate the situation. I mean, it's good
to have role models and heroes. That was freaking out canny,
but we sacked him nine times and dominated him in
the Huskers. Can we replicate that again different qbs, different scenarios,
But can we bring that down to Iowa City tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That is the question. I mean, you've been talking about
a Greenway. You've asked me here, why is the line
eight and a half nine and a half whatever it is?
Because this Gopher football team has not been consistent week
to week. I don't know what team's going to show
up tomorrow. And that's from the guy who covers this program.
Every single day of his life and has for fifteen years.
Is this is a go for football team in twenty
twenty five, that just thirteen days ago against Purdue, that
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defense allowed four hundred and fifty total yards over two
hundred and fifty on the ground, had no sacks and
forty something dropbacks, and then on a short week at
home against Patrick, Mahomes sacked them a program record nine times.
I mean, if you knew what you were getting on
a given week from this team, it'd be a lot
easier to the words of the man coming in at
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eleven o'clock prognosticate what it's going to look like. But
this is a Gopher football team that hasn't traveled well
so far this year on the road. They're zero and
two now. They also haven't played a road game when
the sun has still been up. And they went out
to Berkeley and it was kind of cursed where it
was a nine to thirty pm kickoff local time. They
fell apart after midnight local time. Then they were the
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sacrificial lamb for Ohio State on their homecoming.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, you can't really say they haven't played well on
the road. I mean, let's just kind of focus in
on that col game, and I know, you know, these
players get up for games and there's always a chance
to win. Everyone pragmatically, there was not a chance that
they were coming out of Ohio Stadium. No, the shoot,
I think Ohio.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
State is clearly the best team in college football, and
they have been all season. I mean, they are just
as the kids would say, they are a wagon right now,
anybody they run into, just toying with their opponents at
the stage trying to get healthy to the college football playoff.
Julian Sayan looks incredible and that they.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Allowed more than a touchdown to like anybody. I mean
maybe like Donoi was able to put up a couple
of touchdowns on him, but that was about it. I mean,
they've got two first round receivers and Jeremiah Smith and
two NFL drafts Carnel Tait next year. They've got a
Heisman guy quarterback, They've got a first They've got first
round picks on a defense. Matt Patricia is thinking to himself, Haha, Belichick,
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you thought like we couldn't do this thing without you.
Here I am in college now making this thing work.
So when you look at them going down to Iowa,
City again. They haven't won back to back games in
Iowa City in over forty years. I mean, it has
been a house of horrors for them. Now they won
twelve to ten two years ago with the bit they've
done it. But that is such a difficult football team
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in such a difficult environment, especially now that this is
the first time Hawkeye fans have seen this Gopher team
since the invalid signal that was heard around the world,
which I still think was correctly called because of course
you do well. I haven't seen too many pump returners,
especially elite ones like Cooper de Gen put out his
arm to the side there and kind of give a
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little wave over to the hospital like they're going to
do in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Will also do after the first quarter there. But it's
going to be a fun environment. I mean, that ninety
eight pound bronze pig. It means a lots of both
band bases. I know that this Gopher football team and
the staff, They've got a lot of respect for Kirk
Farrence and Phil Parker and what they do down there.
All they do is win eight games every year, which
is so difficult to do in college football, and it
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is a fascinating game to kind of get into.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
This Gophers team. What do you think Pj's learned about
this group? And maybe you've learned it and we all
have just by watching the games where the ability to
win with Drake lindsay, when you couldn't run the ball
to save your life to you in a lot of ways,
not that Drake. I mean, Drake wasn't bad against Nebraska
at all, but it was also the first time now
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that we really saw Darius Taylor come to life, and man,
we needed it. I wish you would have gotten into
the end zone there. It stinks that he stepped out
at the one, yep, But what do you think he's
learned about this team and kind of trying to balance
developing the kid probably banging his head against the wall
with this run game situation. The O line kind of
finding their way along throughout this just very wonky despite
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being five and two. I would say they're wonky in
terms of what we can get out of the run game.
And then again just continuing to see the growth of
the young QB. Yeah, the young QBU as.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I think what we've learned the most about is that
Minnesota's I think got a special one here in Drake lindsay,
if you were to have told me, and I thought
I was high coming into the year on him, But
through his first seven career starts, he's got ten touchdowns
only three giveaways, which I think is a very important
stat for a young quarterback completely number sixty percent of
his passes. I mean, they this offense overall has one
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giveaway in four big ten. I mean they have been
very good in that regard, and that's without largely a
running game. Going into that Nebraska game last week, they
were averaging forty four rushing yards per game. Now, I
see it on your hat, and you're wearing a nice
little row of the Boat hat for PG and I'm
sure he appreciates that. Yeah, but our TV doesn't just
stand for row the boat in Dinky Town.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It stands for run the ball. Oh, it does.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And they hadn't been able to run the ball until
Darius came back last week. They've had four different offensive
line combinations and for their last four games, so they're
trying to figure it out. We'll see if they stick
with the same one in Iowa City. Four different line combos.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Different guys in different spots. Team has had sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, well, there's only so many games for this college team,
so they're trying. They're trying to figure it out up front.
It's trying to continue to build around Drake though. I
mean that's the thing with this is I don't think
the Buchnic environment is going to fluster him too much.
We've seen him in front of one hundred thousand in
Columbus and I thought he played largely very well.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's hot, does the offensive line hold up?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
But I just think what we've learned is it could
be pretty fun here with Drake, and I think Drake
is the player I thought Athan Kelly Acmanus is going
to be the biggest difference being with Drake, and you're
able to see it at the line is he's got
Max Brosmer's processor at a young age. They do as
much motion and shifts, and Drake has the ability to
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adjust things with the line of scrimmage to what he
sees in the motion. And they tried to emulate kind
of an NFL offense. And I know that I was
talking to Tanner Morgan and I saw that he wrote
about it with chipskog Is. The Star community calls it
vikings junior with this offense, trying to give Drake as
much information pre snap as he can handle and then
(16:37):
he can make an adjustment to get them into the
right look. I mean, he is just a freshman, and
it's exciting to see a quarterback in Dinky Town be
able to know what he's looking for, adjust things at
the line, and you got to live in the moment.
I know everybody wants to talk about, well, we'll see
what happens after the season.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I feel like we did that last year with Coy Perrich.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I feel like we did that the last two years
with Darius Taylor, and last I saw they're going to
be very impactful players from Minnesota on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
The growth process with Drake, you think you think any
of that plays into the run game. I just I wonder,
you know, if he's getting multiple options, yes, he's gonna
he's gonna make mistakes along the way here, and maybe
maybe that's part of just kind of finding the right
time to pull the string on this play or we
run into this side of the line and just making
those those checks, you know, kind of living with some
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of those mistakes and those learning experiences along the way too.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, the offensive coordinator Greg Harbow and quarterback Drake Lindsay
have talked about that in recent weeks that they're getting
They're trying to get Drake better at getting them into
the right run looks where if they come out expecting
this look off the motion, well, Drake's got to be
able to then understand, Okay, I got to adjust to
play here or check from the id from say the
(17:47):
one technique defensive tackle. So let's go to the mic
linebacker instead. Get the guys up front knowing where they're
supposed to be blocking. That is certainly part of the
run game issues. It's not just the offensive line. It
also doesn't help this running offense that they missed Darius
Taylor for a month. Yeah, and Darius Taylor finally looked
like Darius Taylor last week, and they're gonna need him
(18:07):
down in Iowa City. But yeah, that is the part
of the learning curve for a young quarterback, especially with
all the things they continue to put on his shoulders,
is he's only gonna get better in theory.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Game after game after game, we're gonna pause, give you
a little cash giveaway bit, and then when we come back,
I want to drill down exactly what we might expect
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just beats up all over Nebraska whenever he gets a chance.
A pig though, the elusive squealing pig. One and seven,
(18:42):
I believe, let's make it two and seven starting tomorrow.
But we're going to talk more about that with Gopher
illustrated Ryan Burns when we returned. But first, a cash
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Speaker 1 (19:07):
You're listening to the fans, all right, So I was
(19:37):
sold a bill of goods. By the way, I don't
know how how much you follow the Bison.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I mean it's a big one. It's a big one
coming up here. Code a marker game, right, that's Tim
polse X crew.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Here's some sort of boulder or a physical rock on
the line the marker and it is just a rock right.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I'm also disappointed that college game Day isn't going to
be the But can you imagine the pre production meeting
with those folks trying to convince Nick Saban to go
to Brooking, South Dakota instead of Nashville.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Can you?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I say this with the utmost peace and love to
the folks in the Dakota's.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay, I've spent I've spent time off their times in Brookings.
I'm a big fan of the Dakotas.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But can you imagine trying to convince Sabin we're going where?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, we're not going there.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Even though I just listened to Saban on College game
Day last.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Week, if he would make it a party, oh my goodness,
would enjoy himself.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
There'd be some tomfoolery and skullduggery out there there.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Certainly would well, you know, go Bison go. I think
South Dakota they they've held serve at home against the
Bison in recent years. South Dakota State. We got to
make that in part. You're right, Yes, I apologize South Dakota.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
State because we're gonna be talking about their former quarterback,
who I'm sure they wish that they had there this
weekend to help beat the Bison and Mark Ronowski down
there at Iowa. But yes, that's so. That's where I
was sold to Bill of Goods. Okay, I heard this is.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Like, hey, guys, turn on the tv. Iowa has a
QB that can throw it. That's not true. He hasn't
found his way through the air. Has an eclipsed. I
don't even think two hundred yards in a game, but
he is. He's got some legs and he's working his
way on the ground. Him and Molten providing and I
think I can't remember if it was Washington or another cat.
(21:21):
They might be working through some injuries or some health
issues with their running backs at this point. But is
it Kamani or Kamari Kamari Moulton. Kamari Moulton. He's going
to be kind of their lead back this weekend, but
him and Granowski on the ground serves to be quite
a challenge for Pj's team. It is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
The Mark Gronowski experience has been very interesting for the
first i'll say two months down there in Iowa City
because they take him from South Dakota State and he
has the offseason shoulder surgery. Misses all of springball, gets
back over the summer and then has not been able
to be the passer that he was out there in Brookings.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I hear they think, you know, kind of like Jake
Browning in the Washington days, that the shoulder situation has
impacted him. There's the only thing that makes sense to
me as to why.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And I was looking at the stats earlier this week
and I didn't exactly believe them.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
But it's true.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He's got no passing touchdowns in five picks against Power
four teams this year. Okay, they're only throwing it for
about one hundred and thirty yards per game in those games,
quick though, but where he is just so good and
he was out there for South Dakota State as well
as he's got ten rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I mean, he is lethal in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You saw it last week two with a seventy yard
scamper against Penn State. He's got more rushing touchdowns himself
than the entire Gopher football team. As we talked about
in the first segment, RTB means doesn't mean just me
and row the boat's run the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Run the ball.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And he has been so so good in the red
zone for them, and that's going to be the biggest
key for Danny Collins in this Gopher defense is take
away Gronowski's legs, make him beat you with his arm.
Because it's not just Gronowski, it's also their pass catching cord.
They're without their best tight end out for the year
because of injuries, They've been banged up at receiver, and
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then these interceptions. I watched one last week against Penn State,
just bounced off the guys essentially his chest into the
arms of a Penn State defender. I'm thinking to myself,
that's going to go down as an interception.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
But that's not Gronowski's fault.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Right Where Iowa is so good this year, and you
mentioned Kamari Molten in the run game in Gronowski is
They're averaging almost two hundred yards a game on the
ground and they have one of the best offensive lines,
not only in the Big Ten, but in college football.
You look at PFF and you and I both agree
on this. I know it that PFF grades not the
end all be all for anything, certainly very much so
(23:35):
that is correct. But you look at who they can
be useful. They can be useful, and where I'm going
with this is you look at who the top five
graded players are on the Iowa offense. That's left tackle,
the right tackle, and they are all very very good.
I mean, I'm watching guys like Brandon Thorn do cut
ups about them. That center and the right tackle are
going to be NFL top one hundred draft picks next year.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
They're very good upfront.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
And I think a lot of Gopher fans remember what
they did in the second half against against their team
in hunting A Bank Stadium last year where Caleb Johnson
went absolutely bonkers in that whole game went pair shaped
very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's going to be the thing, is if you can.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Just dedicate yourself to stopping the run, which is a
lot easier said than done for many teams against Iowa
so far this year, and make Gronowski beat you with
his arm. Now, I'm also aware that many Iowa quarterbacks
have played like this coming into the Gopher game again
for the Pig Floyda Rosedale in the bit and then
the reincarnation of Brad Banks, or you can pick your
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favorite Iowa quarterback over the years they come to play.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I remember the Alex Paedia bit a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Comes in as the backup, and it's just slinging that
thing all over the and I know that Mike grim
is somewhere just losing his mind because that's happening. But
they have to be able to stop the run on Saturday.
You can't stop the run. This thing won't be close.
You have to stop the run on Saturday if you're Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
So is this going to look like the was it
the Purdue game where they went for like two sick?
Well that's that. That was my point. I mean, you
get to pick six and you still win it over
the boiler Makers, but my goodness, was that frustrating to watch.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Well that's the recipe for Saturday is if you are
going to give up that many rushing yards, you better
be at least plus I mean, they were plus three
in the take gift that day is you cannot go
into Iowa City. And maybe the maybe even a bigger
key than stopping the run is going to be you
have to be at least plus two in the take gift.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yep, you can't go into Iowa City if you're PJ.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Fleck and he loves to try to do what Iowa
does on any given week and that's just control the clock,
run the ball, play good defense, make the other team
beat themselves. You're not going to out Iowa, Iowa in
Iowa City. That's a lot of Iowa's there. But that's
my point is you got to be at least plus two,
and that's where they were I think a couple of
(25:50):
years ago when Athan calliag Manus and then that whole
bit they went in one twelve to ten. I think
they were plus two or three in the take gift
that day. If you are just even and neither team
turns over the ball, I was going to win this game.
That's the way this thing goes in Iowa City. So
they got to find a way to turn over Gonowski
at least a couple of times, and then the offense
has to capitalize on those opportunities.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, bcembrace yourself for this. Big time Gophers opinion probably
Nordo nine to noon in for Papa and Studio, about
twenty some minutes from now. Twenty minutes from now, we'll
call it. They've averaged fourteen points per game on offense
over their last six, specifically fourteen they won with twelve. Okay,
took a weird play at the end of the game
(26:32):
to get there. A couple of years ago talking about
Minnesota's offense against Iowa, Minnesota's offense man fourteen twelve, ten
twenty two, whoa offensive explosion? Seven nineteen, last six years. Man,
they cannot find their way into the end zone at
a high level down there, and that has to change.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's a lot, yes, and I wish I had the
answer to how does that change?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's Jalen Smith, the Mankato kid.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, we just got to get the piano off his
back when he was trying to get to into the
end zone there.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Now he I did watch that backs.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I know there were some text messages exchanged between some people.
Looked like he banged his knee the play before. And
you look, you're a high level athlete. Many people have
said that about your time down there in Mankato. Look
at you, I mean, come on now, you are mediocre
high school goalkeeper?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Was was my uh? I was listed as a prep
phenom once or twice in the oh look at you,
Mankato free press, Yeah, shut out against Winona, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Big to you know, well, you've often told me if
you bang knees against somebody, it's gonna hurt for a
few minutes there and after that play he did go
into the injury ten and then was testing some things
on the sidelines and hit.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That's his bit, is Jalen Smith. Mankato kid needs to infori.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
In theory is among the fastest players on this team,
and who's a great one hundred meter guy down there
for Mankato West as well.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
But they've got to find ways to.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
As you said, I mean, it's easier said than done
against Phil Parker. Phil Parker is one of the best
defensive coordinators in college football. But I look at this
IOWA team and think this isn't the twenty eighteen creatures
that head running around where it was Jack Campbell, aj Epanessa,
Chauncey Golston, among others.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And they were very, very good.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And they do have the Ragning Big Ten Player of
the Week at safety and Exavier to Walkba former five
star guy. But they have to find ways to When
you do get across Iowa's thirty yard line, you got
to convince the head coach to go for the jugular,
go for the shots in the end zone, go for
things that aren't going to result in a field goal.
Because playing for seven in Iowa City is what's going
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to win you a football game, not playing for three.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
There you go, I dig that. Just one or two
more for you here. I got several on this, but
I'll just read the most recent one from Tom. Is
there enough money in the Huntington Bank vault to keep
Drake and Maroony Gold? I just and I get it,
I get it. But that has to be one of
the most common questions you're getting now that we are
seeing Drake. You mentioned we're onto something special with him,
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and just in the NIL universe, it's just, well, he's gone.
It's obvious he's going to be gone. He'll find his
way to the SEC next season, and maybe he replaces
Pavia down at Vanderbilt now that they're trying to build
something down there at some point. But you get my
point is everyone you see something you love and you're
immediately forlorn and the foreboding nature of well, he's obviously
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going to leave in the portal next year. Any opinion
on that at all, or just enjoy what you're watching
at the moment you think he's gone.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, justin Guard three to six thirty and myself and
Chipscoggins from the Start Tribute. We have a podcast called
Paronis Parra.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's awesome for radio app.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It is and Justin went off on this this week
because we do get it a lot, and I understand
the question.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I don't blame people for asking the question. I would
just ask them this.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I heard it last year with Coy Parrots when he's
enjoying a first team All Big Ten season. I heard
it two years ago when it was Darius Taylor. I
heard it three years ago when it was Arion Terras three.
Joh Joyner, you don't have to be the highest one.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
In the room to keep people.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Now, there is enough money I believe between Dinkytown athletes
and the House Settlement that now the universe, he can
pay football players over fourteen million dollars. Now that's spread
out across all hundred something bodies, and we'll see what
Fleck and his general manager elect to give Drake. I
would also encourage people to look into Drake Lindsay's background
and see where he comes from. Where his grandfather, I believe,
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was intertwined in business with someone who built a gigantic
stadium for the Dallas Cowboys. You may have heard of
him Jerry Jones. Those two were business partners together.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, which means he's going to go back to Arkansas.
I just know. I look, the rooms are worried.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I understand that they're worried because anytime something good happens
in Minnesota sports. And I'll be the first one to
tell you, I'm a nineteen ninety two baby. I haven't
seen a pro sports team make a championship game in
my lifetime. For male pro sports teams, I know we
got to throw out that thing. I mean, I've seen
one hundred and twenty some seasons of it. Like anytime
something good happens, it's this market and I know it. Again,
(30:58):
I covered Gopher football for a lit What do you
think I grew up in in those Mason years of
the Brewster years. So I just would tell your your
point is what this person just texted in Nordo.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
His family is loaded. The Lindsay's have their own suite.
So you're saying it's not it's not about money for
in my theory. My theory, and again I'm closer to
it than a lot of people. And understand that I
think that Drake Lindsay knows what his offensive coordinator and
Greg Harbo put the belief in him.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
The same with Fleck. There's comfort in that too, there
is in the growth. There is a lot of comfort
in that. And look, if somebody wants to come in
and offer Drake, Drake Lindsay Carson Beck money. For those
of you who don't know Carson Beck is, he's Miami's quarterback.
They took him from Georgia. I think he's reportedly getting
over four million a year. I mean, that's how crazy
this thing can be. And I think Drake Lindsay is
worth multi millions of dollars in this market if he
(31:50):
wants it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean, it doesn't always have to be about the money. Sometimes,
if you think.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
The Arkansas kid wants to be I mean, do you
think he's Miami Lanbamborghini guy. Look, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I know that Drake Lindsay is one of us where
he grew up going duck hunting in the timber down
there with his dad.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I mean, I think I think Carson Beck might need
some more. And we're just a college eligibility because I
don't think it's going to work in the NFL for
all back. Yeah, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Look, it's every situation is different. And I'm sure when
Arkansas does hire someone, and I even think about back
when when Fleck loves to talk about how he went
to his state championship game. You know who the Arkansas
newly hired offensive coordinated was that showed up at that
game trying to get in the ear of the Lindsay
family saying you should stay home. Bobby Patrino, who's now
the interim head coach.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
For the Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Look, I'm sure whoever the next razorback head coach is
going to look at the Lindsay's and.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Second Patrino like moped side piece bit. Yes, now Bobby
Patrino is.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Newly hired, he gets fired and then rehired because the
SEC we don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
We just want results.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It's a whole different bit down there than it is
up here in Big ten Country. Oh my goodness. All right,
enough of that. But anything is possible. You are to
I just I'm not worried about it right now.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Last last thing you doubted the Maroon and Gold a
week ago, I did. I picked Nebraska. I did, Oh, yeah,
what are we doing this time around? Because I was
reading your website and you had it looked like some
cohorts from Iowa. There was a very black and gold,
black and yellow tinted vibe to some of the analysis
and there leading up to this game. Where are we
(33:24):
going this time? I'm gonna lean Iowa right now.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think eight and a half, nine and a half
wherever you want to find it at your favorite sports
book is too many points for me?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, I think this is a game that both teams
want to do.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
And I'll tell you this. PJ. Fleck loves UFC big.
He's a huge UFC guy and.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He's talked about all week that an Iowa type of
game is jab here, jab there, and then you try
to land one, one or two and you can't give
up the big play on the other side. And so
I think it's gonna be a low scoring affair. But
I worry about the Iowa offensive line. They are just
they have been very good. This go for defensive line
has been incredibly, incan assistent for folks who do turn
(34:01):
on the game two thirty on CBS watch number double
zero for the Gophers on defense. He is the next
top sixty overall draft pick for them. Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith,
he has got nineteen and a half tackles for loss
in his last fourteen games. He currently leads the Big
Ten in sacks. He's one of the least talked about
players in the Big Ten for how good he is
and how good he will continue to be. They need
(34:24):
him to shine. And then the boy from Esco cooy Perrich.
He complain he needs to have his best tackling specific
game of this season because if this offensive line is
going to do what I think they're going to do,
and that's climb to the second level, get on the
Gopher linebackers, that's going to be cooy Perrich, carry Brown
Aiden Goosby one on one in space with Gronowski or
Kamari Molten. He's got to make the tackle to make
(34:46):
it second and three. You miss that, the seven yard
game turns into fifty seven and this thing gets pair
shaped in a hurry. It's got to be one of
bet Coy Parritch's best games.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Of the year. I dig it man, thanks for all
you do with Gopher Illustrated. Thank you. You know whether
it's pair in the space and you're always apt to
come and hang out in studio when we ask and
we appreciate it. Brother, I appreciate you. At Ryan Burns
mn via X again tomorrow two thirty, Kinnick, mister Burns
will be there and hopefully that pig will be coming
back to Minnesota. I O'Ryan's driving down by himself. Maybe
(35:16):
he'll volunteer to bring Floyd back up to campus. I
think that'd be really nice of him to do that.
The second out, well, final hour is coming up with
with Pa in studio. But a little bit of news
next on the Fantas season. What up? Short segment expecting
Pa and here let's call it ten twelve minutes or so.
I'm excited to see the host after Sadly, the welcome
(35:40):
home is not cheery given the thirty seven to ten
beat down that he watched the team and duer last
night at so Far. But news Denord, we'll do a
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(36:48):
on opening night against Anthony Edwards and the Wolves. The
next morning he's getting arrested by the FBI, and there's
this illegal poker ring thing where he's luring in big
timers to play and basically brigg to poker games and
take all their money. I was watching something somebody had
posted a video. It's like a poker podcast from like
twenty twenty three where somebody who's openly talking about like,
(37:11):
you know, I there's something wrong with that game. And
I just wonder how everything's digital now. There's so much
information that's immediately available where you know, everyone's got a
podcast now too, right, So I just wonder how long
the rumor mill was pushing before some of this came
to fruition. The FBI clearly has been investigating this for
a number of years. Damon Jones also in the mix,
(37:33):
Terry Rogier. He's just trying to get a pizza and
some chicken wings. Like Sean Holmes in the Bubble, He's
arrested outside a hotel in Orlando. So the thing's weird,
the thing's awful, and just waiting for more dominoes to
fall on that. Meanwhile, the World Series begins tonight Dodgers
and Jays in Toronto. The Dodgers heavily favored in this series.
(37:55):
They've lost one game all postseason, and I've seen Dodger
fans complaining about their bullpen a bit. Is that the
is that the Achilles Heel in terms of in terms
of their entire operation. But it's still pretty good, by
the way. And oh, when you have Yamamoto and some
of these guys rolling complete games in the postseason, well
that's a thing. So they do a pretty good job
(38:16):
protecting them. By the way, they hit for a hit
for a million. The Jays they're hitting three hundred as
a squad right now. Springer and vlad I think they
have ten or eleven home runs in the postseason combined. Yeah,
varshow and Luke's a couple of guys helping big time.
It's a fun matchup, But doesn't it feel again, the
Dodgers have just mowed people down. And the brew Crew
(38:39):
brew Crew, certainly with Miserowski and some pitching, you know,
they weren't built for ten run games on a nightly
basis and an absolute offensive shootout. But the way that
they were just absolutely neutralized in that NLCS series was
concerning if you're you know, whether you were going to
be the Mariners or in this case, the Blue Jays.
Just what the what the Dodgers were able to do
(39:00):
and Otani, of course, the unicorn game in that finale
against the Brewers, the three home runs, the ten K's
unbelievable performance. Weird thing with Otani, kind of a meh
postseason leading up to that game, and he wasn't very
good last year either, But like the worst player on
their team is Max Munsey hitting at four hundred in
(39:20):
the right center. So it feels like the obvious answer
in the end is the Dodgers, although this series, if
it was to go seven, four of them are going
to be in Canada, up in Toronto at the Rodgers Center.
I saw this via fan duel for the Dodgers to
win in four games plus five fifty five games plus
two fifty six plus two ten and seven plus two
(39:45):
thirty five. Again, I need maybe I need to ask
Otani speaking of betting and such and weird stuff going on,
maybe I need to ask Otani's old interpreter. But the
FanDuel odds, I'm feeling five games for the Dodgers. We'll
see Wolves tonight. No Lebron with the pecad sciatic the
nerve issue, all us old guys can relate. Certainly, Luca
went for forty plus and the loss to Jimmy Butler
(40:07):
and Steph Curry and the opener. Curry went off last
night again. By the way, some sweet ot games taking place.
I think Aaron Gordon, of all people for the Nugs
last night went for fifty hit ten triples. Then you
have what was a fifty five to fifty six points
by SGA, and just some fun, weird games taking place
early in the season. Every game can be different, but
(40:28):
it was all Luca and Austin Reeves the other night,
and I wonder if that kind of stays the same.
DeAndre Ay and working his way in It's kind of
scrub city. Outside of that, I'm hoping that the Wolves
aren't losing games because of Gabe, Vincent, Hatchamura, Jackson, Hayes,
et cetera. But Marcus Smart, he only got twenty three
minutes in the opener. He is not the Marcus Smart
(40:50):
of the Boston Celtics days, certainly not even maybe Marcus
Smart of the when he was able to take the
freaking court in Memphis. However, Marcus Smart at one point
was like that bulldog that when you just needed some
defense and you needed attitude, you needed to irritate the
other team's best scorer, you just let him off the
leash and he goes to work. So I'm curious if
(41:11):
Marcus Smart albeit maybe in limited minutes plays a factor
into this game. Wolves are favored in LA. I hope
they win, so we'll see NFL matchups. Maybe we get
into that final hour with the host wild Tomorrow reminder
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we're going to handle some business. Final hour, I got
text messages, keep those talkbacks coming free. iHeartRadio app. I'm
going to be firing those up throughout the five hour
as well as we continue to unpack. Put a bow
on the Friday football well Famine slash feast and uh
and then hopefully by Monday we can go full force ahead.
Who's going to be playing QB and how are we
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going to beat them? Kiddies? But final hour is around
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