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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Nine to noon.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Liber stop, I'm here to serve you, oh my.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Right away?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Oh well, oh wow, oh wow, And the beat goes
on nine to noon, ten oh seven. Good morning, here's
been a liber at Nacho liber Via X. I don't
forget to watch him on television today and each and
every weekday three to four thirty, Channel five with a
Twin Cities Live. It's our beloved Natcho. It's birthday, Ben
(01:09):
Well kind of sort of what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Kind of?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Sort of?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, I saw the tweet machine. There's a take in
front of you. I know, I know my birthday is
officially on Sunday. Oh oh, you know, so we get
it during the game. We get during the game. Sweet,
So I'm not I'm not quite there yet. Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Our gift from the KFA in bast and never expanding
Minnesota Vikings Audio Network is to permit you to, if
you're so inclined, swear during the course of the game
into the microphone out on the audio network.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I mean, I can't sign off on it, but that's
the first thing I think.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, then if you can't sign off on it, then
I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Maybe the football team will actually give you a W
for your birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Be sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, then I might I might just do that. It
might be like an emphatic f.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, like after the New Orleans game. Remember how we
all sound. Yeah, after the New Orleans game. I'm looking
at people legitimately the Minneapolis Miracle game, like trying to
at nord NORDA was in there. They were trying to
pull themselves into the broadcast booth to high five and
(02:15):
hug and then I'm like, blah, blah blah, they're trying
to climb into the Fox box.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Now let's go down to Ben. And it was just
so yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Think I even gave out a Rick Flair.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Whoo yeah, I think let me see if I found
it here.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
It is absolutely insanity down here on the field.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
Ben Lieber, you were with the Minnesota Vikings in two thousand.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And nine, Happy where.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
Granted it was week three when Brett Farr found Greg
Lewis back right of the end.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Zone for the oh my heavens moment. Have you at
any level.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Of play ever seen anything like we just saw?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Never And I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But we didn't get the Saints.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
WHOA well yeah, so yeah that was.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
We got a whole lot of I'm not you know what, Ben,
I mean, I can't even laugh or give you crap
about it, because I mean I was tearing up in
the freaking press box. We got to hold out of
those moments, gentlemen. You know that's that's something we should do.
Is anytime the team's won four games and we're questioning
the freaking QB and everything's gone negative, I just want
to play.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
It is absolutely insanity down here on the field.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I just want to I want to hear that that
that let's make that nine to noon drop immortality.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Absolutely, let's let's.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Put it on, find it on.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Let's find a spot on page one on the button bar,
because that is sheer happiness.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And you know what, I'm sure I missed that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I'm sure. I'm sure Ben. Would you know who occasionally
will listen to nine to Noon. I'm sure he'll be comfortable,
you know, hearing that every so often kind of in
the sassy vein or the same vein, Proger with the ponytail.
Rachel Ramsey always loves hearing.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It's time to drop the pot.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, I love I love both of our voice voices cracking,
and you know what I feel like we're doing right now.
I feel like a little bit, a little bit and
we're mostly that we're in your part of the life
where you open up the old the old scrap book,
you know, the old baby book, and you're going back
(04:21):
looking at the good times. You know, this is what
times used to.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Be, memories light in the corners of our minds. Yeah,
misty water colored memories. Absolutely the way we were.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I know, because you know, the times right now aren't
quite as great. So we need to remind ourselves there's
football darkness right now. There is football. We are in
a little bit of an abyss. We're in a dark
cave right now, and hopefully, you know, hopefully there by
the end of the season we see a light out
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Speaker 1 (05:22):
Climbing or claiman climbing three two.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Kansas State University's head coach Chris said again climbing Chris
Climban has retired. Yes, and I saw I saw the
tweet machine yesterday with not an over the top Sadden
notch your labor It was birthday a Sunday. But it
seemed to surprise you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, you know, it did surprise me because you know,
it surprised a lot of people. It surprised everybody, and
a lot of people within that organization, certainly in the
city of Manhattan, the little apple of Kansas.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
How about that you can now call foot of college
programs organizations. Oh yeah, because that's what they are, their organizations.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah. Yeah, even a small organization like Kansas State. So yeah,
you know, we know that it was a rough year. Obviously,
some losses that just were just dumbfounding, and you're like,
what is this team? You know a lot of question
marks we're going to have to get answered at the
end of the season. And I don't think anybody realized
that it was going to take a coach stepping down
(06:25):
in this particular moment to fix everything.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I truly believe that he's not going to lane kipping
on it.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And like Noka, he's retired, He's you know, he's retiring.
I don't know if it's going to be one of
those retires where it's step away from the game for
a year to realize how much you love it. It's
part of who you are. You found the energy again,
because I'm sure it's just terribly exhausting to be a
head coach in college football. Maybe he comes back, maybe
he doesn't. I don't know. I've heard rumors, and I
just want to make sure that everybody knows that these
(06:52):
are rumors. I heard rumors that there's a family member
that's not health wise doing great either, and so I
think that sort of aids into maybe making his decision
a little easier to you know, with his age, the
fact that he's made you know, quite a bit of money,
he's been you know, very successful at Case State and
also at North Dakota State, that he's got a hell
of a resume, you know, a college football Hall of
(07:14):
Fame resume. Wow, he can look back on and say
I did it the right way. For almost thirty years.
And then also he's going to leave the program in
great in great hands. So Colin Klein, our Heisman football
candidate that played quarterback at K State, left k State
last year two years ago to be the OC at
Texas A and M. He's brought Texas A and M
(07:34):
to prominence offensively, he's going to come back and be
our head coach. And so you know, it really couldn't.
I mean, it was a sad pass off, but I
think it's very very encouraging and so much hope and
promise that this young, up and coming, very talented coach
is going to come back to his alma mater and
coach them. And you know it'll all get started after
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both of them finish out their seasons in their respectable
game and then we'll get excited for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now, now with the with the fact all.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Right, close your ears, close your eyes, because you get
weird when I say things like this, but they're facts.
With the fact that your broadcasting career is going very
well and only we'll get better. So that that's professional fact, radio, audio,
TV ball thing. What if the new coach like just
pours over What if he's one of those with the
(08:26):
ad or the school president. I want one hundred and
fifty names of people you think would be the best
defensive coordinator for this program or program, and your name
made it on there, and then all of a sudden,
he vets he vets it out for three and a
half days, and then you get a call and they say,
we'd like you to be the defensive coordinator for the program,
(08:49):
and we're going to give you one point one million dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
What would you do? It'd be hard to turn down
that money, but I have I'm leading in something with
this about the life of a coach at the college
level and the pro level. I have no aspirations to
be a coach, especially at soon to be forty seven
years old.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
But say it did work that way, it would take
for family relocation, career change, leaving the radio and audio
networks and the TCL. Yeah you know we I mean
there would be a stark change to what you've put
a lot of time in building and it's ascending.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah. Well, the thing is like I think we all,
all of us, all of us play Monday morning quarterback.
I would have done this, I would have done that.
I play Monday morning GM like, I you know, bro,
you know scheme, this guy we don't know scheme. You know,
I know, But we all superficially on the surface level
think that we can make some calls and you know,
(09:47):
draft players and scout and evaluate. We have no idea.
So like for me to never have coached at any
other level other than girls flag football and sixth grade
tackle foot Like, there's no way that I would walk
into Kansas City right now and be like, I'm your
defensive coordinator because I know what cover three is.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
But the life of a college football coach where Nacho's
not going to leave this career, ABC, D and E
aren't going to leave their careers unless their security. So
I don't know, five million dollars deal over three years,
then you give up fifty to Kansas and then you
give up forty five Oklahoma. Come on, and you're out.
(10:30):
A hold on this is reality of that life and
you're out. But you got the guaranteed part of the
bit for some decision making money, I mean outside of
being with this new term.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
This popped up over the last couple of years.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Aggregator on like social media, the ones who read everybody
else's work. Watch everybody else's work, follow everybody else's work,
you know, the ones who are working the work, and
then they take somebody else's work and profit off of it.
Those may be two of the greatest careers, two of
the greatest professional entities that possibly could exist. A fired
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college football coach with two and a half three years
left on a deal or an aggregator.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, the thing is that the way you laid out there,
like there's it's wild. How much money you can make
in all facets of this game unbelievable, whether you're a coach,
front office person, whether you just talk about the game,
either like we're doing or people on TV at the
local national level, like people love it man, and there
(11:40):
are there are so many ways that you can create content.
You know, sitting down to do videos like Pete does.
Like the thing is like all that stuff takes way
more time you think. You know, it's like these young kids,
like every young kid wants to be a content creator
at least has thought about it. And then you actually
sit down and realize how much, like you know, how
(12:01):
much grind you let's say, like mister beast, did you
know it's not just like shooting a video on your
phone and just like just posting it like you have.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
The podcast you used to do. Was it video too, No,
like it didn't go on to YouTube.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
No, but I would do I would do video if
I had two point zero, which is probably gonna happen.
But like I would do two point over is.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Probably gonna happen. You say, I say that for next week.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think so because the Faith and Goal podcast that
I used to do, I was looking to take some
form of that without really a conclusive idea as to,
you know, how I would do it to YouTube after
after I heard what some like how money is made
on YouTube. I had no idea until like a year
(12:43):
and a half ago. Sure, I'm old guy, and you
know I got I got jobs with checks every other
week and benefits and stuff like that. So I'm not
thinking about the content that I and we create goes
out via broadcasting. But that's with no disrespect to I mean,
I can't even and imagine how much money Joe Rogan
makes for his podcast. So once I heard about the
(13:05):
subscription threshold and then the views threshold, and then I'm like, man,
I mean I should be able to fall into ten
percent of that in about fifteen minutes. Let me get started. Well,
then I started, you know, working contacting YouTube, talking about
the copyright part of it. Six minutes into the conversation, Well,
a year and a half has gone by, and I'm out, Okay,
(13:27):
unless somebody, unless unless I personally hire somebody to handle
all correct this for me, and then and then now
well you know, and then now.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I'll do it. It's a lot, like you said, man.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, a lot of people. I mean, I think you know.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Then I'm gonna take everything you say aggregated and make
one hundred grand a year. You do all the work
I scoop chips. You have the life of an aggregator.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Man, there's again, there's a lot more. There's a lot
more into it for all that stuff. I mean, all
those people, those highly successful people, they have teams behind
them or you know, at least a per center two
that kind of helps all that stuff, like your.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Favorite Canda zones. Anyway, go ahead, Wow, sorry, ah, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Apparently she might not even be with us any very
much longer.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
My goodness. Next segment we'll get into shurning point.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Man, that thing has got Holy cow, I can't I
can't even follow what's going on there. It's one of
those weird things where we all know we're in lockstep
and we all know that we're thinking about the same thing,
but nobody wants.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
To talk about it at this moment.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh, I know, like fraud Minnesota, nobody wants to talk
about it. It's amazing, that's awesome. It's crazy. It's it's
you don't talk about it. It's not happening.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It's it's it's wild eleven thirty and John Justice.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
It's yeah. The thing is like, John shouldn't be the
only person talking about it. And this is not this
is this is not a right left issue. I mean,
a crime is a crime, right and fraud is fraud.
And if you're if you're grand standing because of your
political affiliation, shame on you. We're all taxpayers in this state.
And when I find out that you know, uh, you know,
at the surface level, billion dollars is being stolen, thank you.
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I don't care what the group is. I don't care
what the background is. I don't I don't care how
they got here, why they're here, I don't care if
it's you know, a thousand people from all different ethnicities,
if they're all in this together to steal money from
us as taxpayers, you need to be tried. You need
to go to jail if you're guilty. And this should
not This is not a political issue. This is not
(15:25):
a right versus left. This is a common sense. Let's
do what's right. If you're a criminal, you're a criminal,
and somehow, some way, let's stop with these loopholes. Let's
start actually like vetting these things out and not just
get glad handing these people with all this all these
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you know, approvals to have these fake businesses. It is
you want to you want a four letter word to
come out of me? It might come out if we
keep talking about it.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Of course, clap I'm not well, Clap done.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
I mean, next.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Thing you're gonna tell me is there gonna be balloons
flying over the United States of America from west to
east and back to west, collecting intel. I always love
that one that never would happened. All right, back to
the lesson at hand. Ben Leber at Nacho Libra three
to four thirty today, Tcliah. You know we channel five,
(16:27):
so watch a Twin Cities live today at three o'clock.
We love Nacho the Minnesota Vikings need a first quarter touchdown.
If they don't get a first quarter touchdown this weekend,
they've gone non consecutive quarters sans atd and that would
be worse than the two thousand and one Minnesota Vikings,
which featured at times Todd, Bowman and Spurgeon win a quarterback.
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So when you're on the sideline this weekend, no, of
course you know this. We've gone eight consecutive quarters without
a touchdown. We desperately need a touchdown in the first
quarter in good morning.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, you know, my it might have to come by
the way of a long sustained drive that probably doesn't
call for a lot of explosives, because if we're to
kind of read between the lines of what Koc said yesterday,
which I fully support, you know, we might need to
be pulling the reins back on this offense in this
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quarterback a little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And just like that's what you took out of it,
I did.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Well, I'm probably wrong then, because it came up during
Bikes Bikes and I started thinking about something with O'Connell.
I thought there was part of it where he's like,
technique matters, foot steps and the whole thing matters, sure,
but you know what, there's time to work on that,
and kind of like, let's just be a quarterback here
for the final five games. We'll just be in a
quarterback means three step drop, fade to eighteen every time,
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no matter where he is. That could be the elixir
to the touchdown with streak.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Okay, So the way and that could be part of it.
The way that I interpreted that is, let's just say,
for instance, because we maybe numbers are easy to easier
to conceptualize, let's say that let's say there's one hundred
plays in the playbook that Sam Darnold had last year,
and let's just say that is the playbook. It's a
hundred plays regardless of formation. It's one hundred plays out
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of different formations, different groupings, whatever. If that's what we
tried to work into with JJ McCarthy, and let's just
say it's not working. You know, he's got to he's
got to do all of this, plus all the mechanical stuff,
you know, pre snap, post snap, different footwork on this handoff,
this pass play, whatever. If that's too much for him,
let's scrap all that to the offseason. Yep, and let's
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just get back to making better decisions, Well, how do
you make better decisions? Do you make better decisions because
you have a wide open, hundred play playbook or can
you make clear, more concise decisions If you break that
down to like thirty three plays or thirty plays, you know,
can you take why do why do so many quarterbacks
look good in preseason? Why they make quick decisions because
playbook is smaller, right, playbook is much smaller. The defense
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that they're going to face is much much more transparent thanila.
It's vanilla. Right. So if we can amplify that to
like maybe like a regular season but not quite one
hundred plays, and we go down to thirty plays, your
decision making process again, you can still do those out
of different groupings and different shifts and different motions. But
at the end of the day, if if that pass
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play that you've repped now several times in the course
of the week and honestly several times during the course
of the season, if you now know most of the
time when I call this play, okay, got it, JJ's
going to be here. J's gonna be here, Hawk's going
to be here, Aaron Jones is gonna be here, Like
no matter how we slice it and what the presentation
looks like pre snap, this is what's going to be
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and we're not changing that. Like, we don't care if
the same route comes up ten times in the game.
It's no different than your fade ball example, Manda man coverage.
They know exactly the routes that can beat you back shoulders, fades,
stuff like that. But what happens plays are continually made
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in those obvious situations. So by keeping things obvious, that's fine.
Trust your players, Trust your players to go out and
make plays and get open. So that's that's how I
interpreted that that it was going to be a little
bit more simplified, because that's the best way to make
clear and more concise decisions.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Has the demise of Dallas Turner been greatly exaggerated and
is it possible to make a Drew Brees JJ McCarthy comparison.
Find out when we return to Kfan.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
It is absolutely insanity down here on the field, and
it's absolute insanity here in the sixty five one carpets
plus studios.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Why Ben Lever's here not one of our favorite parts
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Speaker 1 (21:04):
Foundation Foundation. Thank you very much for.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
The weekly sponsorship here and other places with Ben, do
you it's a dealer's choice here, so you get to
choose the game would you like? Would you like me
to lead with somebody has turnered the corner?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Or do you want me.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
To pay off that that Breeze thing that I wrote
a full paragraph and I have two paragraphs on with
JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's your choice.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, I'm curious about the Breeves thing. What's three two? Now?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Ben Leeber played with Drew Brees with the San Diego Chargers,
so Ben's former teammate, Drew Brees did not take off
until his fourth year. Now fight a fairness and patience act.
With the demise of Dallas Turner being greatly exaggerated, patients
required more so with a fan base or media with
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him than those in the building because he's a non quarterback.
Patience within the building with what I'm about to lay out,
I feel is more imperative than fans, media or whomever
when it involves a quarterback. And here's what I mean.
Drew Brees didn't take off until his fourth year. Zero
starts in two thousand and one is rookie campaign. Sixteen
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starts the next year, and he went for seventeen touchdowns
and seventeen picks. Two thousand and three is third year
Drew Brees hof eleven starts. He went two to nine
with eleven touchdowns and fifteen interceptions. The completion percentage in
Drew Brees' third year like through twenty seven to twenty
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eight starts fifty seven. Now in two thousand and four,
his fourth year, well, it all changed and he became
football immortality. That right, there is not a comparison, not
a he's going to be this, I promise its contextual
equity as to why riding off talented young quarterbacks can
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bite people. So maybe McCarthy goes breeze on it. But
the key is the people and I I firmly, firmly
ten to ten mean this, the people running the show
with the Minnesota Vikings. They're the ones that have to
be patient. They're the ones that have to be willing
to wait. So there is no diagramed plan for this
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kid who plays.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Then he's gone, and plays then he's gone.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So but starting the rest of the games would be
part of the plan, right, starting them all next year too, Yes,
all of them, Yes, really almost no matter how it goes,
unless it's so so lost and we just can't wait.
I mean, this is ridiculous, but I don't think it
would be that way.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And they're the.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Started a new weekly segment yesterday told the end of
the year called Glorifying the Good and had Bob Soci,
the play by play voice for the New England Patriots,
on and you know, Drake may might win the MVP,
and if he doesn't this year, then he's I think
he's going to win an MVP at some point during
his career. I asked Bob about Drake this time last year,
and he's basically like Bro, I mean, it's not even close.
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And the addition of this and adding Digs and Ray
Bowl and Todd Downing with the receivers, all who used
to be a quarterbacks coach, all that he had matters.
But Drake had to grow, he had to mature. He
needed that offseason after playing all those games saying JJ
is going to be Drake, I ain't going to say
that either. Sam McCarthy's going to be Breeze. I ain't
going to say that either, I'm saying this is great
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contextual equity that even for somebody like Drew Brees, it
took three and a half to four years, and that
included having Antonio Gates in two thousand and three. It
took quite some time to get where he got and
where he's going and the Hall of Fame and everything
like that, and all the records and all that. So
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that's contextual equity and fans and or media members not
being patient, savaging him, ripping him, this is foolish. Draft
pick was terrible all that. None of that matters with
a quarterback. It's the regime staying patient enough and not
worrying about their futures to give it. It may take
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longer than anybody thought or wanted, but it can happen.
So there's a number that I've heard. I've heard this
floated around. It is a subjective number, but I've heard
that college, if you would have truly wanted to evaluate quarterbacks,
both college and in the NFL, you need about fifty starts.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, fifty in the pros for both. Oh both got it?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, Well, I'm saying I'm on like twenty two to
twenty five guys in college and fifty in the pros
got it to give a true evaluation, to see everything,
to see everything repetitively for things to slow down right,
quote unquote slow down.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
How many kids even get fifty shots anymore in college?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Well, that's I think that's why it's it's very difficult
to evaluate some of these guys. So Drake May had
thirty starts at North Carolina and that was one of
the biggest That was one of the biggest issues with
him coming out when people are evaluating like, yeah, but
he hasn't taken enough starts, Like we don't really know
what he is yet. We see all of the talent,
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we see all the stuff and the things that we
can measure, but as far as what he's been able
to do in college, there's not enough reps. Like that
was his big thing. He was a talented project, is
what we thought. JJ McCarthy similarly had forty starts in college,
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so not quite to that fifty threshold he misses. McCarthy
misses all of last year with a lower body injury,
meaning he can't work on anything mechanically, which sounds like
that's his biggest problem was his lower body mechanics, so
he can't work on any of that. So that's basically,
from a physical standpoint, a dead year, Like nothing was
truly accomplished during this season. He wasn't getting any you know,
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scout team reps, he wasn't getting a number two reps,
all of that stuff. So that's sort of a dead year,
and this year he's not even He's just the tip
of the iceberg and scratching the surface on the number
of starts. And so if if that number is true
to form, and it's not a have to be fifty starts,
but if you want to get a real look at
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an NFL quarterback, it's got to be more than five
or six starts. It's got to be more than even
what you're talking about for next year, which I fully support.
I went into this thinking we have at least a
two to two and a half year evaluation on this quarterback.
So this is a perfect storm of criticism that our
Vikings fans have never been a part of, at least
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I mean in a long long time. It's been a
long time since we've drafted somebody and said, Okay, we're
going to give you a lot of runway, a lot
of Grace, We're going to give you that quote fifty games,
and we're going to kind of bite our tongue on
casting any sort of declared is as far as what
you are and what you can be. So we all
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have to be patient with this because I'm with you,
I think that we need to bring in some sort
of real competition the off season. You really have to
duke it out and make sure that he is like
fighting every single day in the off season to be
the guy, to prove that he's a guy. And then
we have to sit through a whole season next year
where hopefully he's a healthy seventeen games and hopefully seventeen
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games plus. But we have to see all of next
season to figure out where, like, okay, what do we
do from here on out? Right?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Lastly, is is Christian Darrisaw the most important player on
this team, this current twenty twenty five Minnesota Vikings team. Okay, yes, yes,
Justin Rocks and yeah, Dallas is taking off. Yeah, I mean,
I mean Bernard's fifteen plays when you jumped on the
microphone when Bernard came on to talk about it. I
don't know who's more excited. Brian Flores may Or you
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to see Gernard out there situational edge, standing up, and
he almost crushed Arnold on his first play. I mean
he was shot out of a cannon. I mean we
were we were wondering, like, is he he's healthy? Right,
he's on the sideline, He's just standing there. He's just
kind of rocking back and forth next to b Flow,
and he looked like he's ready to go in the game.
And then then I hear from Viking's communication like, no,
he's healthy. It looks like it's just going to be
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sort of a spot do you today, situational? Situational? So
he's important, but seventy one, yeah, seventy one is important.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yes, I mean, well there's a there's Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I know that people are gonna be like, yeah, but
what do do you do against Parsons? Like I get that, Like,
you know, Parsons is he's on his way to be
in the Hall of Fame, you know, and you know
you're gonna you're gonna get got sometimes in these situations.
So yeah, maybe not a great game, but overall, he's
a hugely important part of this offensive line, and you know,
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when he's not in there, I think he's the most
important person on the team. And here's why, because what
you said by without him and when it's not going
the right way, even if he is playing and then
he's out, you know, which hasn't happened of late. But nevertheless,
the time of possession thing, ma'am, it's it's he has
a lot to do with it because of what they
have to cover when he doesn't play. So that pulls
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one side back if it doesn't work, the other side's
playing two thirds of the game.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Well, that's bad. It's a trickle down effect here. Seventy
one playing and playing every snap is arguably the most
vital facet of the twenty twenty five Minnesota Vikings. You
know you mentioned Michael Parsons, did you know, well, Dallas
Turner's twenty two years of age. All right, So for
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those who are twenty two years of age and are
edge players and were first round picks with at least
forty five tackles eight tackles for loss in five sacks,
well Dallas has all of those. Dallas is twenty two,
so he's twenty one when he was a rookie line
through it twenty two five and a half sacks, eight tackles,
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for lost. Think he has forty six tackles by having
those numbers at age twenty two, and he still has
five games left. By the way, he joins an elite
club of Will Anderson, Aiden Hutchinson, Michael Parsons, Brian Burns,
Devin White, Nick Bosa, Bradley Chubb, Rokwan Smith, Joey Bosa,
Leonard Williams, Shett Chandler Jones, Corey Lagette, Rolando McClain, Von Miller, Jason, Pierre,
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Paul who wants to give you a high three, JJ Watt,
Mario Williams, Sean Merriman, Terrell Sucks Wife Freeny, Andre Carter,
Justin Smith, and Brian are Lacker. Turner's part of that
at age twenty two, patients are required.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's impressive. Patients are required.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Did not realize that? Well, now you do. I can't
wait to hear you on the sideline for your birthday.
That's a really impressive list. Appreciate your brother all right,
Love you, Matt, Love you too.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
See Ben lever at not Joe Leber watching him on
the TV today from three to four thirty on Channel five.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Back after the.
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of year down in New Orleans. How good It would
be a double feature with the Howl. Have you been
been in New Orleans multiple times?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, it's I just love the city, man, It's such
a cool city.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It is cool.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
And I say this time of year because I remember
the last time I was there.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It was an August preseason game.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
It was about one hundred degrees comdity and it's hagging
and I were sweating on Bourbon Street, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But this time of year, beautiful down in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
But we got to beat those Pelicans heavily favored are
the Wolves took them to ot. It took a forty
plus point performance from Anthony Edwards, who is just I mean,
on his freaking game right now. If you remember missing
some shots and conversations last year, like, hey, it'd be
cool if aunt one part of his game. Would love
him just to finish at the rim. He's a heat
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seeking missile to the rim right now. He's doing it
at a high level and it's it's Wolves and Pels
tonight at seven?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
How old is Anthony twenty three?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Maybe twenty four?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Okay, Anthony Edwards is becoming truly a scholar of the game. Yeah,
and here's well, here's what I mean. It's yes, it's
an work on your left hand to dribble so you
can beat people off the dribble.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Did it get to the Linmar Cool? Get to the basketmare? Cool?
That'll get to the Linmar Cool.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
What're you going to do when they aggressively aggressively attack
you every game at the perimeter with double teams. How
about the decision making or lack thereof with that? He
from what I understand, and I learned this before the
Finchy interview a couple of days ago, he's so on
point right now.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's the swivel bit.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
It's like Justin Fields doesn't have a swivel, one read guy.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
It's with Edwards. It's his swivel.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
His swivel is a plus right now where it's tricky
recognizing what's coming at you, then where to go off
of it per the players that are checking you and
the players that are checking other players. And he's on fire.
With his decision making from what I understand, playing into
all those big time performances, and the more he becomes
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that complete all around type superstar, then you're into the
conversation for me, at least with Shay Gil just Alexander,
Jason Tatum, just some guys who get those hard doubles
on the perimeter and do the right thing with it.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
More than they don't.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
No, And I can't wait to see.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
How many how many times this year have we heard
FINCHI or have we read about it, or if you
watch press conferences, heard him say it got sticky, it
got sticky, Yep, it got I.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Can't remember last time I heard it.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, not as often as we've heard that in yeah,
very very well.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
There's one player with the stickham and it's Anthony, so
he's not going to call him out by name. But
when the ball gets sticky, Jaden McDaniels is not holding
it and waving people off ten times, so you can
shoot a thirty foot three pointer. By the way, Anthony's
coming together, man, from a scholarly standpoint, it is so
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impressive to watch.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
It's early, and you know the guard situation is kind
of how the flow goes and everything flowing through ant.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It feels like was trade for James Harden. He's available.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I've been super down on that, super down on Jayden.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Like I like Jayden a lot, but like I keep
hearing budding star and he's on the rise and all
those things.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I got to give him credit.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Man career highs across the board right now, like night
to night contribution. The defense has really always been there,
but the efficiency with what he's playing on offense, I
think has been a big jump.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
So props to Jayden for that.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
The best of the best ever to best always have
an MV three.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Who's the three? Here is it?
Speaker 8 (37:39):
Go?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Bet?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Wasn't in the playoffs last year?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Man is it McDaniels.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I don't know, but he has an opportunity because the
arms go from Maui to Maine. He changed, He has
and Ryan souter to him on the hardwood in that
he does a lot of defensive things that go unrecognized
to the untrained eye.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
But it's a box score world and I and.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Fall guilty of it too, where you'll you'll but but
when we're really watching those postseason games and you're hyper
analyzing everything closely, he hasn't been a three, a consistent three.
We don't have a consistent three, right, I think Julius
is mostly a consistent two. Ant is mostly the identifiable one. Well,
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he's the identifiable one here, But is he an identifiable
one that can elevate you pass Shay?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Right?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
That's that's the only question that should be asked within
the bowels and locker rooms of Western Conference teams. Yeah,
can you elevate yourselves past what they're doing there?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Well, they have an MV six. I mean it's just
it's ridiculous. They dip into the bench and then they
just keep the good times rolling.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
They legitimately have an MB four. You've got Shay. Jalen
Williams has been fined since he's come back. He's gone
it a lot, but I think he's shooting himself into shape.
Chat Chet is a three quarters, Hartenstein's a three. Yeah,
they have an I mean they do Holme Grin and
Hartenstein Yeah, makes a four.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
And you would, I would say Chad and or Hartenstein
postseason wise would would be beyond what we would consider
what we've gotten at a ruty Right, So I mean
it's just yes, wow, Okay, Well we got we got
work to do, and it starts by beating on bad
teams like that pals tonight, But it started by praising
Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yes, we're not hearing the whole thing gets sticky, which
means he's not ball hogging, right, And even if he is,
we're hearing smart associated with Edwards when it comes to
splitting and beating those double teams.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Now, I think, I think, and I think a lot
of this is independently, like individually driven by ant himself,
which is which is a big part of why he's
such an impressive player.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
We got to go to break here.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
But the men's hoop squad, Nico's squad beat Indiana twenty
second ranked yesterday seventy three sixty four. That's sweet. Hopefully
they can carry some of that against number one per
Due coming up around the corner.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
But in Calgary tonight, Calgary, the Minnesota Wild and the
hot Minnesota Wild trying to well, can you out heeat
the flames? I mean, I guess I don't know how
you put that cold water on the flames. Whatever it is,
go beat the flames tonight as part of this Western
Canada swing and continue the winning waye ten oh and
two over the last.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
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