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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Tight ends to the left of Christian Darisol. It is
second and a goal from the one direct snap to
Jordan Mason. He sprints out to the left, he reaches
for the end zone. And if they say he was
short Jordan Mason on a direct snap, think the same
play they ran to Cam Akers in the Browns game.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Every players really on the field.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
The touch that.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Now post time for x's and o's on the baston
ever expanding KFA in Minnesota, Vikings Audio Network and welcome back.
I'm Paul Allen. Happy to be joined by one of
our favorite people here, Quincy. How you been Quasy, Quasi Sorry,
Quasia Doofo mensa general manager for the Minnesota Vikings. But
we're on a level just to take you behind the

(01:27):
scenes here at Twin City's Orthopedic Performance Center, where two
studios to the left of us, two studios to what
would be the southwest of us directionally is where those
of you who watched Undercover on Amazon Prime, put together
by Eli Manning. Well that's we're back in training camp,
justin Jefferson. Donda costume called himself Darius Frost, and one

(01:51):
of my favorite moments because it went nuts on social
media last week. So then I go to Prime and
I'm like, cool, I have Prime, So I guess I've
been paying for that for right. That's cool? All right,
Well I might as well watch it then, And I
watched the first Undercover with Baker Mayfield acting like he
was Joe Q super fan with the mullet and just everything,
and then they start throwing pats this people are like hey,

(02:13):
and the rookie receiver they had three other players there,
and so the rookie receivers looking at fellow rookies going
who is this? I mean, this guy is an arm
Then he takes the whole thing off and the ruse.
The ruse was done, and it was beautiful. Episode number
two Justin Jefferson as a photographer Darius Frost uh quasi
Dopamensa comes in August or whatever it was for some

(02:35):
quote staff photos end quote. And the ruse and then
the spoofing was terrific. A lot of great laughs to
be had there, especially from you at the end when
you figured it out. But I I just there were
a lot of great moments there. I still think my
favorite is when he called you Quincy.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, you know, Quincy a lifetime of having a West
African name that I love and to my heart, but
it's been mispronounced every which way possible.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
So really there's yeah, it's crazy, oh man.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
The first day of school used to be this anxiety
inducing five minutes just as I knew there were now
I have been a last name, so I was normally quick,
but I'd be sweating waiting for the teacher to butcher
my name everybody. So those those reactions that kind of
there's like this little six year old that shows up
in those moments. I just very quickly, hey it's crazy
and move on. But now justin with that was an

(03:26):
incredible performances. I'm too close to Sam Newton right now.
I don't know that I trust him anymore. For people
out there, I don't normally get a headshot. I don't
care what my picture looks like. I guess, but I
asked for one this year and I canceled the night before.
I was like, I don't really want to be memorialized
with this mustache.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
And Sam was like, you gotta do it, You gotta
do it.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
What do you mean this mustache? You've always had a
mustache since I met.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
You, but just the soul, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
And and so they kind of talked me into going
and they walked me off the plank there. So now
we've got some trust to build back in our relationship.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah yeah, Well, you know the that's so fantastic, Quincy,
the the you know it's it's Twin Cities, north of
Beag's Performance Center. It's a squared away, culture based building
that happens to house a football team to plays games.
And Here's what I'm getting at. You don't think for
a second before this whole thing was pulled off, that

(04:22):
Newton Anderson and that entire staff had five meetings as
to hell to handle Quasi if he gets moody with
it or whatever because he feels like somebody was deceiving him.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
That was No, that was so well done.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
You know, obviously you got to be the Every once
in a while the dial comes to you and the
laughs are maybe at you and sort of with you.
But no, it was a fun experience. I'm glad Justin
got to do it. I wish it wasn't the number
one prime show so that everybody can see me in
my weak moment. But no, cool, cool that we were
able to do stuff like that this facility.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, but you've always been very comfortable with radio and
television and print attention. So something comes up on social
Pedia that undercovers the number one thing for the week.
I'm sure you're really gonna put your thumbs underneath your armpits,
flutter your fingers and go A. That's not exactly our
general manager, Quasi adopha mensa off your name quickly, though.

(05:14):
I've heard a lot of Quazis. I've heard a lot
of Quazies in Minnesota. So therefore, you know, like for me,
I think, I mean, I told you it's a beautiful name,
so like you know, if it's on the radio or whatever.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I'll be like, it's you know what, it's sometimes both
an a in gunny and culture really so the e
I could I could see that throwing people off them.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Okay, well is quasi And there's a reason for me
asking this quasi adofo mensa? Is that the only part
of the name. And here's why I ask because I
was watching a YouTube short yesterday, like while I was writing,
and there was an interview with Kim Bamtumbo and the
host was like, well, that's your americanized name. It took
to Kim Bam Tumble three minutes to say his name.

(05:55):
I mean that thing had. That thing had nineteen vowels
in it before we got to the first continent or
vice versa.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
There is a part to my first name that I'll
leave out just because my pretty much only my family
calls me that I don't know that I want to
be walking the streets of Minnesota and somebody They'll be like,
you know, it's a it's a reaction where I only
know that somebody in my family saying something to me.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So yeah, the uh the with with Justin's giggle okay,
his see you have one too, So like if if
somebody said, Paul, close your eyes and then you're gonna
hear these laughs, I'd be like, all right, well that's
just one hundred percent. It comes from the chest with quacy.
It has a little high pitch thing to it that
we can talk about later. I don't I don't know
if I've heard Kevin laugh in the last five months.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
We can work on that against the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
And but I'm surprised you didn't get Justin's laugh during
this ruse of surprises.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Man, in hindsight, there is so many things that I
should have seen.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
I should have known was coming.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Also, just how weird everybody was acting around and I'm
looking at the photographer, but Sam and Jeff are pacing
behind Andy's Andy looks like he wants to cloud of
his skin.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Surprise. You would do the same thing if you thought
you potentially were losing your job over a ruse.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
And because I kept looking at him and like they
told me he was his intern, and you know, I'm like, okay,
you hired him, like cool, yeah, And I kept looking
at him like okay, this is your intern, you know,
But no, it was you know, I probably should have
got it there. I should have got it when he's
pointed the teeth when he said I don't know anything
about football, and then he's naming his contract lots of places.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, I hit it perfectly one forty.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
And you know, as my my wife would probably tell you,
I am Quacy is not fully in the room at
all at all times when I show up, just the
God's honest truth.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
That's a that's a different conversation, different day. We need
another thirty minutes for that.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Man, we all do, you know, And so sometimes you
need to you know, obviously with her, I buck up
and get my potention going. But sometimes in the building
when you were thinking about the six things that happened
in the day before, six things coming after a little distracted.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
So I think my detector was a little off there.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, two of us in here along with you or dad,
you know. So Nordo has has three young young daughters
nine or ten for the oldest two yeah, ten ten
year old twins and then basically one that's coming up
on a year. I have a twenty five year old
son and a twenty two year old daughter. The daughter
is based in Denver, Colorado. After graduating from the University

(08:15):
of Colorado, so you're like, Yay, we got that degree.
Here we go, new job, big girl job. Yeah, until
you move from Boulder to Denver and have to find
new friends. That's a lot of fun, right, Oh man,
It's just big people, big problems, little people, little problems.
When you put that whole thing in perspective. Okay, okay man.
Quasia Dopa Mensa, General manager for the Mission of the

(08:36):
Vikid's okay, ready, ready, Sam, Here we go. Football questions,
NFL trade deadlines two weeks from today. Do people still
call people on like office phones? I mean, do you
have to look at your phone to illuminate or do
you actually, hey, somebody's calling that phone.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
That My office line is probably wrung seven times since
I've been here, and they've all been somebody from the
outside who got the number who and wants to yell
at something that that myself or somebody else's doing the vikings.
On draft day, people will we do have those landlines,
and those will get used on draft day.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
But other than that, I'm not sure I've taken a
call on those landlines.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Have you ever investigated or just let yourself think about
what your job must have been like before cell phones
and or the internet. You know, like like Sid Hartman,
God rest his soul. He would tell a story about,
you know, back when the Vikings first started, like sixty
one or something like that, or it's the sixties or

(09:35):
the seventies, and you know tech Shram for the Dallas
Cowboys told this story also where when when it was
draft season or free agency or like they're trying to
trade or something that literally a football related epiphany would
hit them. They'd have to pull off the side of
the road, find a payphone, make sure they have enough
quarters to go into the payphone to call the other

(09:56):
general manager in Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
You know, unbelievable. It's funny. We were in London.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I was walking the streets with my family and I
walked by a pay phone.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I mean, when's the last time you saw a payphone.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I used to live in New York City and I
remember days where I was, you know, trying to go around.
I had to find a payphone and find a quarter.
Of those are things that people kids nowadays probably know
nothing about. But you know, we talk about a lot,
you know, just the world and all the information we
have at our fingertips. But I almost wonder if you know,
if you have the Nokia and the IPI Classic that
didn't do anything else, would be all be in a
better place. I sometimes asked myself the question do we

(10:26):
have too much in the palm of our hands? But
you know there's probably pros and cons to it. You know,
having information that quickly obviously is helpful, but also maybe
you know, maybe that's not helpful to maybe have everything
at your fingertip. It's it's you just to the times.
But it's it's a great dynamic we have now.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
That whole mental juxtaposition you just went through was fascinating. Well,
you talked out both sides of the equation, and the
bests settled, we like move on.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
That was brilliant.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I'm learning from keV keV the keV the the ocular process.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
That was beautiful. Do you consider yourself with like trading
deadline two weeks from today, just at your human nature?

Speaker 5 (11:03):
More of a buyer or seller?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
By nature? I mean, do you like you know, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, I think it's more of a value proposition. You're
always looking for opportunities. Where do opportunities align? You know,
when you're obviously everything's about winning in the current season,
but also you don't want to be so focused on
the currencieson that you potentially hinder yourself in future season.

(11:27):
So it's always that dynamic of time, value of performance,
time value of assets. So buyer in a sense, you
know you're you're you're feeling like, hey, this is this
is our year. But in a sport with an oblong
ball and injuries and all these different things, it's hard
to ever really be so binarily in that sense, right,
and then potentially lose assets next ure they're going to

(11:48):
help you improve. So it's really just that conversation and
you're you're looking through of a trade meeting right after
this this amazing time I get to spend with you guys,
But it's willing through the hundreds of opportunities and then seeing, hey,
what's three or four align with our goals? Are that
are trying to get better this year, keep our flexibility
for next year? All those different things, and it really
only comes down to three or four opportunities you call them.

(12:10):
Those lie on the relationships you have, and maybe it
ends up being one deal that we typically made at
the deadline.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
How close do you permit yourself to get to the
players you draft and or bring in via free agency.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know, it's really really hard when I when I
was deciding on, you know, in Cleveland, deciding on not deciding,
but is really asking questions about becoming a GM. That
was the one thing I asked Sheldon Day, I've known
since I was in San Francisco, and I was, how
do I I had a great because back of them,
when you're not in mea chair, you're you're always can
be the good uncle almost in a sense right, And
people would come to my office and I was kind

(12:43):
of just like, you know, how do I do that
job but still have these real relationships because it will
at some point feel transactional if at the end of
the day, I have to be the person to be
the bearer of bad news. And he said, just be
honest with people, be straight up, be yourself, be always been.
I think people can tell that you're genuine, So I
try and do that in a way that people know
that it's real that I do care about them. I

(13:03):
might have to at some point make a decision that
you might not like, but I have to do that
for the vikings. But also know that I wouldn't I
would drop everything to help you because I really do
me and I believe relationships are like that, so that's
how you try and treat it. I also don't need
to be these guys. I don't know that they need
a forty four year old you know friend who uh
you know, I don't know if I'm the hippis guy

(13:23):
uh in the in the industry anymore.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
I do, okay for for a for a GM.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
But you just talked out both sides of again in
eight seconds. That's so brilliant. What's a gift?

Speaker 5 (13:34):
But uh, you know, I just I love the time.
It's so cool to be around these guys.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
And they're younger than me, so they used lingo and
they it almost keeps me young. It'll help me when
i'm I'm probably when I you know, my kids get
a little older. So you'll know what pause means or
whatever whatever the kids are saying nowadays.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
But pause, I don't know what it is. I don't
know what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
If people knew how little connect I have the social media, maybe.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Sound I'm still stuck on facts. I'll just stopped it
right there.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
And a little facts machine you'll put in your text message. Yeah,
that's how about that?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, I mean if you wanted to make a trade
or sign somebody twenty five years ago, you had to
use a fax machine.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I was talking to Trash about this the other day.
I remember typewriter. I learned on a typewriter. I had
a typewriter, you know, and and when you messed up,
you had to like retype that, maybe wipe it out
and then write over it. I mean, just hey, that's
weird grind. That was the original school of hard knocks
on that type typewriter.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
A few here for CSIA do fa mensa to close?
The general manager for the Minnesota Vikings does does losing
feel worse than winning feels good? Go ahead and talk
that one out from both sides.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, you know, it's funny that I am normally pretty.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm a pretty even person. Last Sunday was hard. That
was a frustrating game. I think football is typically fair.
When you Kelways gets mad at me when I say that,
because he's out there dying on the.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Side, like what are your mad? It's fair?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
But you come up, you watch the film and you're
when you win, you're typically like, yeah, we won. But
there's a couple of plays where you know, that game
could have been different, or if you lose same thing.
Rarely do you watch the game and you know, when
you leave the stadium you feel like we should have
won that game, And then when you watch the film,
you feel like we should have won that game. You
look at the first downs, the out third downs, time
of possession, all the things that matter, and it really

(15:23):
comes down to three or four plays that even if
they had big plays, they just weren't as big a plays.
We still come out there with the win, and I
think you know so, But otherwise, you know, those those those.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Times can be frustrated.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
But otherwise I treat everything like a learning experience, So
I don't really get high or low, happy, sad. It's
more about I just got to watch something we projected
what this team could be. Like. I'm so excited to
go wake up in the morning and go learn and
study it and see what happened. There's a joy in that,
that process of learning what we are.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
The joy you actually wake up after a game like that,
So I mean, is it oh, human nature gets to
win too?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
You know, it's it's a meate. You wake up with
a sense of because we get to do something about it.
You know, a Texas group about that at night to
try and text them after every game, and I said,
I was frustrated, but I also said that the good
thing about our jobs is we get to go tomorrow
and try and make it better and make it right.
Same with everybody in this building, every player, every coach,
every front office, every person who walks these halls. And
that's what makes the sport so great being a part

(16:16):
of it. So the joy, the highs and lows really
for me only come late late, you know, playoffs, different
things like that, when there's a finality.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Yeah, you know when that lasts.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
When you that locker room scene in Glendale where you're
seeing guys, that's where you'll see me that that's probably
the only time you really see you feel me emote.
Because also I think it's my job to be kind
of the emotional balance of the organization in a sense.
My job is to be long term focused more hey, context,
different things like that, never ride the waves with everybody
else knowing that they should happen.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
But it's my job to kind of to be on
the other side.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
But but yeah, I mean they're looking in the mirror
moments too, right, because like Okay, say somebody thinks, hey,
the squad's vulnerable. Look at all these games they've missed
from these key people. Now we can strike. And that's
not a bad way to handle the job. I understand
that business part of it, but you also have to
be like, if you're really frustrated with somebody and you
have been week after week and hey, just had a

(17:09):
big game or had another bad game, but you know
what's going on behind the scenes, and you're like, I
ain't giving up on this, right, Well, then all of
a sudden, the seventh is the sixth, and the six
is we might be able to talk about the fifth
later today. You've got to battle all that, right, all
of it, all of it.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
And you know it's is that person who had a
good game, well, what was your prior belief about them?

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Or was that bad game?

Speaker 3 (17:31):
You know some players, it happens, great players have bad games.
So is that a bad game from a great player
or a bad player from someone who needs to keep improving?

Speaker 5 (17:38):
It's all again.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's why one of the things I just love so
much about this job, the curiosity that you know that
that I have that really I get to display here.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Darius Frost I mean Sam Newton with the media relations
permitted me to go to seventeen because I know you
have that trading meeting coming up. So we'll just end
it like this, what music are you vibing these days?
And I have a reason for asking that question something
that took places on my radio show yesterday.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Right now, I am listening to this southern hip hop
kind of classics list. Sometimes when people come in my
office for meetings, I'll ask him, Hey, what do you
want to hear? And Jasper Brinkley probably a month ago,
was like, let's throw some of that southern hip hop on.
I was like, oh, I just kind of typed it in.
And the first song is this trick Daddy song. But
I love one of the and I know we bought
music all the time. One of the things I love

(18:24):
about music is the first time you hear the beat,
your memory goes somewhere like special yes. And so this
trick Daddy song comes on and immediately go to my
sophomore year at college, who with some of my fraternity
brothers sitting in a room, like the first time I
heard that song, And so start if the list started
that way, and it just kind of continued on, So
I've been listening to that for the past month.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
That's how I get.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I get like, yeah, you know, connected, really connected to
a list, but some.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Great listening to Trick Daddy while you do Level nine calculus.
It sounds like it all just fits together.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
I changed the techno for the calculus.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well, what happened yesterday with PJ. Fleck, coach of the
Golden Go First football team who joins every single Monday
is at the end he talked about, you know, and
we teach music. He was talking about the culture and
what they do weekly and how they change things up
and we we like teach music. Well that here is
immediately a perk. And he puts the word how into
the band, so like, you know, I don't know old

(19:16):
school duo Daryl holl and John Oates all of notes
how and Oates or We're going to play some some
Halvin Gay today and learn about Marvin Gay. So I'm like, well,
what about Parliament, Howidelic and George Clinton and Bootsy Collins
on bass, Atomic Dog and Flashlight and and so many
different songs and so therefore that I think that's cool

(19:39):
what they do to kind of break it up, like that,
but it also helps the new age or those who
are younger learn about the roots of trick Daddy, the
roots of what people listen to.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Now, you know, that doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
PJ is one of the more unique people I've ever met, creative, passionate,
watched that game on TV. Really, we be proud of
those guys. So that doesn't surprise me at all. But now,
music's this beautiful thing, you know. I know last night
Jackson Smith and Jigba had a great thing. I love
telling this story. But I'll run into him every now
and again. He will remember the top thirty meeting where

(20:13):
I asked him what song would you play if you
had something to say about it? Like, he will remember
and we'll talk about it. That's like a cool thing
that you can connect with people. We don't we're not
from the same place.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
We don't. He didn't have a typewriter in seventh grade.
But you know we can.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
We can connect on those things and kind of have
those experiences, which is awesome.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
All right, that's going to be a thank you very
much for joining. Greatly appreciate you. And if I don't,
if we don't chat on the sideline, it's so far.
It's because I envisioned there could be a moment with
a you and Chargers GM. Joe is it Ortiz, Yeah,
Joe Ortiz. He's lost his top two running backs and
left tackle Rashaans Later for the season. You've gone through
a million games of injuries this season, so maybe you

(20:52):
guys just lament a little bit into the game before
you compete against each other.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know, Joe, Joe's super talented, known of him for
a long period of time, but as GMS, you don't
really lament on those things. It's just say that's the job,
and you kind of take the challenge of it. And
he's wired that way, and they got a great roster.
It'll be a competitive game. I'm excited for it to
two teams that need to win like we always do,
so I'm fired up for it.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
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Speaker 2 (22:07):
Ben Gestlin covers the Minnesota Vikings for the Star Tribune
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segment later than usual, as we go here at twin
Citi's Orthopedics Performance Center. But things change on what we
call in the business a short week, where Sundays become Thursdays,
and Saturdays with elevations from practice squads become Wednesdays, and

(22:33):
things like that. Kevin O'Connell I believe as a press
conference later today, which he generally wouldn't have on Tuesday,
he would do x'es and o's here at kf a N.
And somebody who is in tune with all of that
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are you?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
The short week is it's a grind, but you know,
you just kind of ride with the chaos and try
to be where your feet are.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
As they say, Yes, every Tuesday, we coming off the
NFL a completed week, we will do something called hyperbolic
or hyper accurate. Yeah, mixed in a little NBA today
with Okac and stuff while we were waiting for Quasia
Dopa mensa. So for both of you, I'll lay this
out and Ben you go first. Is this hyperbolic or
hyper accurate? Carson Wentz is so banged up? Max Brosmer

(23:27):
should play at the LA Chargers. I think that's hyperbolic.
We will see a little more today what he has
to say, what Kevin O'Connell has to say. But no,
I don't think he's so banged up.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I mean he said after the game, I'll be all right,
I'll get through the recovery process.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
And he said, you know, I don't like Thursday games.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I don't know that there's a player who does, because
you hear somebody of them talk about these games are
like getting in a car crash. Every week so you
have to be ready again to do it earlier than
you normally would. I know a lot of players will
say Thursday is about when you start to feel normal again.
So there is a certainly a heightened challenge of trying
to do this on a short week, and when you

(24:05):
are dealing with injuries, that makes it more difficult. But
I don't think it's so bad. And he didn't react
in a way on Sunday that made me think, hey,
they might need to make a change for health reasons here.
So no, I think that's hyperbolic.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
And I know the shoulder situation was his non throwing shoulder. Yes,
And I'm not going to pretend, you know, and lie
to the audience and act like I've watched every Carson
Wentz Throader in the course of his career. It's the
reason I brought it up the way I did is
in watching back the game and all of the games,
specifically offensively, is he's throwing his throwing mote, it's side

(24:45):
He's doing a lot of side arm stuff when he
doesn't really have to. And like there's an Addison play
where he got behind a corner a safety was running
and the one by the boundary where he fell.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, and he brought it in for the long game. Yeah,
the one that if he leads him, it's probably a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Probably. I think safety guy might have had something to
say about that, But it could have been longer. The
longer game, right, Well, there's that example. Some of the
other examples would be just the looping nature of some
of these passes. And maybe after with all with all
due respect, we're both quite bond of Carson. It's after
Cousins and then Darnold and now you know we're just

(25:24):
and why you were watching Sam last night, Yeah, I
mean you're just used to seeing that thing just zipping
there every single play, and there's somebody running after the
catching and I just wonder if he's battling some things
that that's costing him some velocity on his passes. Yeah,
it could be.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
I mean that shoulder injury could be affecting the follow
through and that may be kind of what comes into
the velocity too. So I mean, yes, it's not his
throwing shoulder, but everything is, especially when you talk about
the way quarterbacks are taught to throw in this day
and age, with rotational mechanics, it is your whole trunk,
it's your whole body, so it's it's going to have
an effect, I think, and it's part of the reason

(26:00):
that in London he had to go get a harness
put on his shoulder. I believe he played with that
again last week. So you're looked like working through those
things and that does have an effect, I think, But
you know, it's one of those things we try to
just get through it and make the best of it.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
Well, I hate I hate to say it this way
for his sake, I kind of hope that he's battling
through an injury because with everything, and it's not that
he's it's not that he's ever been the most accurate
quarterback in NFL history. However, his arm has never been
questioned in terms of his ability to get it to
where it needs to be at a high level of speed.
And it is the loopy his second interception, for instance,

(26:38):
and I know he's running, he's off platform, all of that,
but the amount of air he puts under the ball
is effectively what allows Makuba the ability or Makuda I think,
the ability to go back and secure that ball. And
so you know, I don't want him to be hurt
but then at least I would know if he's that
banged up, that would provide some explanations for what was

(26:59):
an incredible regression from an accuracy and overall just an
overall quality of play standpoint.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, and I think there probably has to be I
think one is probably linked to the other. There, I
wouldn't expect it's just all of a sudden. Oh there's
this sudden regression and this guy that we thought was
playing at least efficiently, the way he played in London,
certainly at the end of the game was better than
efficient to all of a sudden then go out and
be that off. I mean, I even think of the one.

(27:28):
You know, there's there's a backwards pass. There's the one
that Addison kind of leaks out on the back that
Addison's probably opened for a big game he misses behind him.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah, the opening drive before the bad snack.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Addison has a first down, potentially another touchdown opportunity there
if he gets him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yes, So there were enough of those things that you
kind of say, Okay, there has to be more to
this story than just all all of a sudden, he's
not good. I mean, you know, it's not typically that
It's not that somebody that's been doing this for as
long as they have all of a sudden is inefficient
at it. There's usually more to it. So yeah, then
the question becomes how do you manage it? The question
is does it cause enough regression that you say we

(28:07):
need to go with somebody else here? But in a
short week with J. J. McCarthy still recovering that ankle
he said last week's not one hundred percent, and Max Brosmer,
you know, has not started an NFL game, are you
gonna do that in a short week. It's not an
ideal scenario, But the Thursday games really are when.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
You when you, you know, watch the portion of practice with
with all the players out there, including JJ McCarthy. Do
do you ever watch like after McCarthy does a drill
or throws or whatever, and then he like walks back
and here comes Brosmer and then here comes Wentz and
that whole thing JJ still has the cliched hitchin is
giddy up. Have you noticed that when he walks it's

(28:47):
it's just not it's not a ten of ten days
yet because of that ankle.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen a little bit of that, and
I think there's still things he is getting through with
at him, and there may be some scar tissue there
and you have to kind of and that may be
there for a while. I mean, you may get to
a point where everybody says you're good. It's just not
going to feel completely normal until this car tissue gets
worked through. So there could be some of that involved.
But yes, you can see some of those things yet.

(29:12):
And I think it's one of those discussions where everybody's like,
when's he going to play?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
When's he going to play?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
If you look at this in the context of a
career trajectory, I think, which is what I think they're doing,
it becomes a little bit of a different question. This
whole thing of is it this week? Is it next week?
It's like, no, they're thinking about what is he going
to look like when he's twenty five, twenty six years old?
And this getting him in a smooth kind of ramping

(29:40):
on process on ramping process. Not corporate enough to know
all the hr lengal, but I think all of that
comes into what they are doing and when they're going
to put him back out there. And if you're still
in that spot where you're not necessarily trusting your mechanics
and your gait planting off that back foot because of it.
I think all of that is part of the process

(30:00):
that they have to figure out before they put it back.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Now with Ben via X at Ben Gesslin, you can
learn about Access Vikings, and you can learn about the
podcast and the Access Vikings newsletter. But one of the
prevalent things you will see close to atop the page,
not not pinned, but that's about McCarthy and mechanics and
quarterback school and stuff like that. Really cool story we
talked about a few weeks ago, but one of these

(30:25):
submissions is Vikings. Vikings are at the bottom of the
NFL's toughest division with a short week and questions to answer. Yeah, okay,
and that was like above your story and I've read
the story, but for those who haven't, what what questions
are there to answer heading into the Chargers game?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah, I mean I think there that was. I think
the game story kind of gets into some of those things.
That's the story you're referencing.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
It was.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
I mean, to me, the way they played defensively on
Sunday was a little pick I mean, getting beat down
the field like they did is not something we've seen
very much, So, you know, is it questions if I
think there's safeties in spots where ASAA Rodgers is getting
beat downfield, should he have had safety help on a
couple of those. I think that the seventy nine yarder

(31:14):
that comes to mind. They're not getting home quite as
effectively with a pass rush as I would expect. I
do think they miss Andrew van Kinkel. We'll see if
he's unbelievable it. Yeah, it makes a massive difference the
way they look when he's in there versus when he's not.
So I think those things have been factors, and I think, yeah,
just defensively, that has been a group that buys you

(31:37):
a little bit of margin because they're good enough at
getting stops, and they did a lot of that on Sunday.
I mean they were able to come back because that
group created three and outs and after that first drive,
I think the Eagles had like twenty seven net yards
on their next four or something like that. So the
group is still good at getting stops when it needs them,

(31:57):
but the lack of turnovers has been a big difference
from last year. And then just getting beat down field
is not something we'd seen. I think they had only
given up like six plays of twenty yards or more
before Sunday all season, which was the fewest in the league,
and I think they gave up five on Sunday, So
kind of an uncaraster, uncharacteristic performance that I think as
they go into this one, there's gonna be a lot

(32:20):
to get figured out at a base level.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Can you just dial all of that into the pass
rush or potentially the lack thereof, And that goes into
the Van Gigle conversation with the neck. I liked a
lot of what I saw from Cashman in his return,
those sorts of things. Pa hit on something yesterday, just
the lack of snaps for Javon Hargra. Yeah, and so
you're kind of thinking, Okay, well, Jalen Redman's kind of
showing out.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You had a lot of Levi Drake Rodriguez.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
In that game Sunday. But in terms of affecting the
passer and Jalen in the vacuum with this Eagles game,
I mean, he can just kind of dip on out.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
He's kind of smooth, actually.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Yeah, and he buys himself a little time and there's
aj Brown uncovered. But to that end, you know, moving forward,
getting vang Gae back, getting more potentially out of Dallas Turner.
The lack of sacks, the lack of turnovers, I feel
like that really stems at a base level, specifically with
that front group.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
One hundred percent. I think that has a lot to
do with everything. I mean, they built front to back,
there's no doubt about it, and you've seen them in
the way they've gone about it in free agency these
last couple of years. Do that where it's let's go
get the edge rushers. Last year, Jonathan Gunnard Andrew Van
Ginkle draft Dallas Turner. This year it's let's go get
Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen. And yes, they've added in

(33:31):
the secondary, certainly Isaiah Rodgers, I think was the first
guy they agreed with during the legal tampering period. So
they address some of those things, but the big money,
the big investments have been upfront, and I think the
idea is, if you can create enough pass rush, you
get the ball thrown underneath, you can rally to the ball,
defend and keep it to short gains. You're not giving

(33:53):
up anything long downfield. It's a little bit of the
vic Fangio thing of keep everything in front of you,
but they're doing it a different way because they're basically
forcing the ball to come out so fast that it
doesn't get thrown over your head. So the fact that
that happened on Sunday, some of that, yes, is Jalen
Hurts being able to extend plays. I think the touchdown
on the fourth down had the ball in his hand

(34:14):
for like seven seconds, and that's the backside of that play.
He'd work the other way and nothing was open before
coming back to aj Brown. So when you have him
doing that that there is some uniqueness to what he does.
But they also need to be able to get to
the point where quarterbacks say, I've got to get the
ball out of my hand and it can't go downfield.
I can have broken plays because somebody's coming after me.

(34:36):
And I think the pass rush helps the secondary a lot.
And I think the lack of productivity, at least to
the standard that they're used to, has hurt the secondary
kind of as a side effect of that.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Is there any van Ginkel steam I mean he was
limited with the practice designation yesterday, which teams do for
Thursday games. If there had been practice right so and
so would be limited, and he was limited all week
last week, then ruled out Friday in front of the
Eagles game. And any Van Ginkle scheme is to like
when well.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
I asked O'Connell about it on Friday, he sounded more
optimistic about the progress. And they've done, you know, a
lot of digging on how to treat the next stuff.
And I think you know, when it's a neck and
a player that's had a concussion, you're probably crossing your
eyes or crossing your t's dotting your eyes with a

(35:27):
lot of things to make sure it's not going to
get worse and it's not going to have long term ramifications.
So I think they felt good about a lot of that,
and the work he had in practice last week I
think was a step in the right direction. I don't
know if in a short week they'll say, yeah, let's
go try it. I would think maybe the Lions game
makes a little more sense there. I agree, but you know,
we'll see today what he does and how they proceed.

(35:51):
I think they are moving towards it, but I just
the short week I think makes everything a little harder.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, Well, to dovetail off what Nordo asked about that
baseline question and then he mentioned Javon Hargrave. Where I
saw it on Twitter yesterday. I wasn't adding up to
snapcounts or anything. Somebody tweeted I verified it, and it
was like, Javon Hargrave eighteen snaps fewer than Levi, Drake Rodriguez,
Jalen Redman has been better than everybody on that defensive
line the whole year, against the run, against the pass,

(36:19):
and the whole thing. Okay, so you're six into it,
you still got eleven to turn some things around. However,
speaking of the X machine, I saw this this morning.
I don't know this person, but you know I follow
him on Twitter, Sean Borman. It was at Sean Borman NFL.
That's where I saw it. It was a tweet and I

(36:39):
added it up and he's right, it's in that And
you know, there was some bragging off the not from
the team, but a braggadocious or positive situation off the
Bears game where Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave, two newbies
on whom they're counting, had thirteen pressures combined in that

(37:01):
Bears game. Okay, well, in the next five games they
have fifteen combined. Well how I mean and with Hardgrave,
I just I'm I'm not getting it with jay Von Hartrave.
Somebody yesterday was like, well, maybe you can't play him
situationally because of this, and I'm like, in my opinion,
they signed Javon Hargrave to stop the run, yep, to

(37:24):
rush the quarterback and not complain when he gets double teamed.
So others can quote eat end quote what do you think.
I think that's right.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I mean, he has gotten a lot of attention, he's
gotten double teams, certainly, we've seen that through these few games.
But you do want to see more production from him,
more plays where you're noticing his impact even if he's
not getting to the quarterback that he's able to, you know,
maybe make a quarterback have to bail a certain way

(37:52):
or closes off the line to step up where he's
he's a bigger factor in the pass rush than we've
seen him be. I do think the lack of impactfulness
from him especially has hurt. I mean Jonathan Allen hasn't
gotten there as much. Jonathan Allen Actually, I thought early
in that game on Sunday, the first two tackles, Yes,
and both and a really nice play. I think the

(38:15):
ball was going away from him. Mix a backside play
to stop the first one. So he had some moments.
But they signed those guys to create more interior pass
rusts than they've gotten, especially over these last few and
I think that's when you're missing Van Ginkel and you
have players that you brought in to help, you know,
be another source of pass rush, and it hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, I think that's had an effect well. And and
when you get an eighteen, okay, it can be if
we if we were in a room with those making
the decision, we had an hour and they got to
call us, you're an idiot, you don't get it. Look
at this, this, this, this, this before you spout off
and talk. Okay, I'd love to have that, sure, simply.
And it has nothing to do with the financial compensation

(38:57):
given Javon hargright, Yeah, when people get paid. That ship
has sailed. Now, it's productivity. How much you play? Is
it what you said? It would be stuff like that.
So okay, perhaps we could be told that this is
a this is a side to side, this is an
edge game. Okay, we're working on all this with Barkley

(39:19):
outside and the cutbacks and the angles and the the
the holding the edge and everything that hurt all week
last week or could be vertical all right where Well,
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
And here's why.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Because I've been a fan of jay Von Hargraves from
Afar since he came into the league and he had
a fumble recovery touchdown in his very in his very
first season. I'm like, who is that? And I watched
him right up on his story and I've been a
fan of his from Afar. Well, now he's here. It's
a conscious decision somebody is making to play somebody only

(39:52):
eighteen plays, right, Okay, Well, I'm curious to see where
it goes this next game and then after that. But
that's Eighteen's a tiny for somebody of that calny. That's
very true.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
And I think Jalen Redmond has played well enough that
that may change the conversation a little. But when you
brought Javon Hargraves in, I think they are expecting to
have a guy that's playing a little more than he has,
So I have to think it's a two sided coin here.
Some of it's been Redmand playing well. I think some
of it probably is Pargrave not being as productive as

(40:26):
they want. So, I mean, all of these things, these
pieces work together. But yeah, I think through the course
of the year, if you're seeing those snapcoms continue, Yeah,
it's absolutely fair to point out this was different than
what they seem to expect when they signed him for
as much as.

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(42:23):
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Speaker 2 (42:40):
What does on a short week? Does Flores speak during
the week?

Speaker 4 (42:44):
I would expect if we, I mean, all of our
access is for the week is today, So I would
think if we're getting coordinators coming off the field, okay,
I think.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, and here's the reason I ask, is that with
the strategy to stop or stall, the tush push. Yeah,
they were the brotherly shove by the Eagles and the
strategy with edge guy Tyler Batty laying on the ground.
Did you get any clarity or like, like, what is

(43:12):
that supposed to do to help? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:14):
So we actually wrote about it. I think I'm only
a likeer. Talked to him after the game. He basically said,
the basics of it are low man wins. I think
the Chiefs did this in the Super Bowl with Chris Jones,
which you know you may need Chris Jones for other things,
so right, Tyler Penny, I think you know, coming back
from the knee injury, it's like, hey, glad your needs

(43:35):
feeling better.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Here's what we're thinking for this week. I would have
loved to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. Guys,
I'm healthy. What do you guys want me to do?

Speaker 6 (43:41):
Well, we want you to effectively die under an offensive, like.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Multiple three hundred pound men to fall on you and
maybe steep on your wounded knee. Have you ever driven
over a speed bump like we basically want you to
be that. So I think some of it was, Yeah,
you get leverage and it makes it so they can't
get up push.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Well, how do you get leverage only if people stand
on you?

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Well, yes, but you're you're getting leveraged from stopping the
Eagles from pushing the line back because they're not able
to get low enough to move you.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
So yeah, I think in the football basics of low
man wins, I think it's taking Loman wins to an extreme.
But yeah, it's uh well, and I think he talked
about it in the locker room, and I think Blake,
I think was Blake Cashman that in Emily's story shouted over, Yeah,
he's a certified maniac or something like that, which you've
got to have to be to be like, yeah, let's
do it. That sounds great. But yeah, that one, it

(44:34):
almost worked. It's an interesting thing. We'll see if other
teams try it. But you do have to have the
right people to say, yeah, I'm I'm good with that.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
I still I don't get it how Jurgen's his head
is over the ball the right I mean with specifically
at the beginning of the year when there was all
this emphasis on illegal formation. Right, So helmet of the
tackle's got to be belt level or closer to where
the center's at Yeah, all those flats were thrown initially,
and let's just say I doubt that every team has

(45:04):
buttoned that entire thing up. But it feels kind of
like a short term like don't do this, guys, and
then they just moved on. Yeah, but similar like, there
are serious formation issues that you can see when you
get the overhead camera view, and they.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Still are able to do it.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
So at first, I'm just thinking if it's illegal play,
who cares? And they just happen to be really good
at it, and you know what we can do. We
can just keep them out a third and one right,
well in sometimes two and the vikings actually mostly effective
in that. But now I saw a couple of camera angles.
I'm just it's kind of a sham play. It annoys me,
and I want it to go away. I don't want

(45:40):
to overlegislate the game, but that thing is just it's
an ugly play and I hate it.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
I used to be like, Okay, well just go stop
it if you don't like it. But the more I've
seen it, and the more you just kind of think
about the mechanics of it, I'm the more I'm with you,
the more I'm just kind of.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Like this is kind of annoying. Yeah, it's just like
you fin agile.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yeah, it's it's a gadget, and if enough teams get
annoyed with it, I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Try to stop it. But why is it a loophole?

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Well, in the sense that pushing a guy forward, I
mean we've had that conversation over the years of being
able to help a guy get positive yardage. I mean,
this wasn't the big discussion. I mean that the name
goes back twenty years last week to the Bush push
in Ue Reggie Bush pushing Matt Lionard.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
I believe in at the end zone.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Its Notre Dame was when that first came up, and
this idea of can you aid a runner going forward,
We've all kind of said this is okay, and I
think there's a loophole in the rules with the formation
that allows them to do it. But yeah, I mean
the packers tried. They proposed at the owner's meetings last year,
let's get rid of this, and it didn't get the votes.
I think the that got pushed to the meetings that

(46:52):
were here in egan in May and owners said, no,
we don't have enough momentum to get rid of this.
I will be interested to see if that continues to
move toward getting rid of that play after this year.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
The tush push generally takes three ish seconds. Okay, I
haven't timed it out. I'm guessing here. Do you think
you guys think three three and a half sounds fair?
Two thousand and one, one thousand and two, one thousand
and three, Maybe a little longer, yeah, okay. And with
the with the brotherly shove and what the Eagles do.
If you watch most of them back, they're all going
forward and the outside guys generally head in. Okay. So

(47:28):
I've said this for years, and I can't get anybody
to tell me it's against the rules or why nobody
does it. I don't understand for the life of me.
Not in touchdown situations because all hands on deck, I
got somebody on the edge, and your only job is
to come around that edge at one hundred miles per
hour and get Doubt Dallas Goddard and the ribs and

(47:49):
get aj Brown in the ribs with your helmet or
your shoulder pads, legal hits and do it repeatedly. Go
ahead and keep running this well, you better take that
left tackle or your extra unbalanced guy and get this
guy because his only job is to come around and
smack the pusher. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna bury the
pusher and hit that sucker so hard. I'm gonna either
knock your guys out of the game or I'm gonna

(48:09):
pull you out of this.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Push push, and that would maybe be the way nobody
does it. Nobody does it. But if that happened enough,
I wonder if the NFL would start to say, you
know what, we gotta stop doing this because a lot.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Of helmet in rig Dallas done well.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Yeah, I think you would get to a point where
the concerns about player safety would get loud enough that
they would say, well, you know what, the way that
this play has gone, the way it's it's evolved, I
think that would change the conversation. I mean, yeah, we're
gonna give you a surprise. Yeah, no, we're giving you
the right. You're at the fifty, go go ahead and push.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
In fact, you're gonna get four yards out of this. Yeah,
they those three players cost of doing business to that that. Yeah,
if that were to happen, I do wonder if GMS,
if Howie Roseman would say, you know what, Nick, we
need to not run this play.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
And don't you can't tell me that the pushers generally
Dallas Goddard, Saquon Barkley und or A. J. Brown, that
they are defenseless players. They're not. They're pushing the guy
they're in the play. So it's not, you know, targeting
a defenseless player, which maybe it is, and maybe that's
why nobody doesn't. But now thought, now, all of a sudden,

(49:21):
you got to take your your edge, guys offensively, you're
outside guys. You've got to think about who's coming around
to put that helmet into Dallas Goddard's trips. And now
that's one last guy one if you were a guy,
I don't know. I just it's it's there has to
be a way to make the Eagles pay for what
they're doing.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Yeah, it is. You have to think that somebody will
come up with something. I mean, obviously teams are trying
to find new ways to do it. When the Vikings
say Tyler Batty is going to act as a speedbump slash,
you know, table for people to use his leverage, Yes,
people are trying to figure out to this that could

(50:01):
be one that's interesting to see if that ever comes
to if teams decide to do that.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Appreciate you. Yeah, see you in the Sofi box box
on a Thursday evening when you do pregame with muss Okay.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
I will check in on the directions of how to
get down that half mile walk from the press box
to the radio booth.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Well, just don't get stuck in Amsterdam. Yeah, yes, okay,
we do that. Let's be fine. And by the way,
Mike Mussman is doing a Thursday football feast at Buffalo
Wild Wing Savage where he's doing vikings Football Sunday that
begins at five o'clock Buffalo Wild Wing Savage that will
take place on Thursday into the final hour nine to noon.
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