October 22, 2025 • 31 mins
Former Vikings TE Byron Chamberlain joins for a catch-up, and then some conversation on the "identity" on the 2025 Vikes...or lack of it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Former Minnesota Vikings tight end Byron Chamberlain, two time Super
Bowl champion with the Denver Broncos, played a couple of
productive seasons with the Minnesota Vikings and via x via
the Tweak Machine at BC Underscore Chamberlain. Byron was great
seeing you in London. How are things out so cowway
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and good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, how you doing? Everything is wonderful out here
in southern California looking forward to the Vikings showing up
in town this week.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I lived in southern California for a decade and a half,
went to high school and junior college there at Pasadena
City College from seventy nine to ninety three overall, and
it was wonderful. You know, traffic always has been a
thing with the four h five, But Newport Beach, Huntington
Beach and then Redondo and Venice and all that fantastic.
Is that still the case? Is Southern California still a
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great place to live?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is still a great place to live. So much
to do out here. The weather has been incredible this week.
It's been in in the load of mid eighties all
week long, so it's just been great. Uh yeah. The beaches,
of course, the place is to be. I'm now at
cal State l A. So I'm not too far from
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uh PCC. Yeah, and your in your old PCC days. Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, will we see you at the game tomorrow night?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Uh, you definitely will see me there. I'll be wearing
my my Bikings purple, uh, cheering on our team.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So that's sweet.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Who who's the best overall tight end in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And why?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Mm hmm? That is a that is a great question
right now, right now, you know, I mean there's just
some guys I'm like. Of course, I like our guy.
I like t J for sure. And he's one of
the guys that I that I that I watch and
he's carrying on uh that that tradition of excellent vikings
tight ends. I like, uh, you know, and he's not
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much of a blocker, but Pitts I like Pitts in
in Atlanta. You know, he doesn't really do much blocking
with more like a big a big receiver, but I
like what he can do down the field. What about
the kid uh in Oakland out of Georgia Bowers. Yeah,
he's to me, he's he's like the next guy. He's
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up and coming. He's so athletic. He can just do
so much and he's just such such a threat. So
those are some of the guys that I really watch.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And the the LA Chargers have a tight end named
Ronde Gadsden. The second now Byron played when Ronde's father
played wide receiver for the Miami Dolphins. Ronde gads did him, uh,
and and his son the second that young man Byron
just went for like one seventy and one is the
Syracuse rookie. Do you know anything about this Ronde Gadsden
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the second, Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And you know, like you said, I I know his
father played in the same era as his father, and
I got a chance to uh cover him when he
was at Syracuse. I did the game when Syracuse played
Western Michigan a couple of years ago. And he's just
you know, just watching film on him, just so athletic.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
He's the guy that creates some mismatch problems.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, we talked about Pitts down in in Atlanta.
Similar to him, He's not gonna wow you with this blocking,
but he blocks just enough. But he's the guy that
in that passing game, he's gonna he's gonna create mismatches.
He's a guy that can take it down the field,
down the scene, so so you can you can uh
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really get big plays and become a threat at the
tight end position. So got a chance, like I said, uh,
you know, to to cover him a couple of years
ago when he was at Syracuse be.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Seeing Byron Chamberlin.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Uh does does anybody care about the Chargers in southern California?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Absolutely not. Uh. You know the thing about it is,
you know people still look at them as the San
Diego Chargers, and a lot of people in this town think, hey,
they're not our team. You know, the Rams you know,
coming back from Saint Louis years ago. Uh, they had
a built in fan base here that never left. And
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everybody knows this. This is a when it comes to football,
it's a Rams town. It's a it's a USC Trojan town. Uh.
And and the other sports are it's a Lakers town,
and it's a Dodgers town for sure. Uh and and
uh the Charges are kind of like the misfit toys.
You know, they're you know, nobody wants to play with.
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So you know, it's tough for them. It's been tougher
to them to build a fan base here in l A.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Your Dodgers out Chavez Ravine way, They're they're favored to
win the World Series for a second consecutive yere, then
you got Lebron and Luca and the Lakers. Lebron didn't
play last night. Luca had just a massive, massive game,
but they still lost to the Golden State Warriors. So
who would you say overall is the more popular team
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and why the Dodgers are Lakers?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh, it's definitely the Dodgers. It's definitely the Dodgers. And
it's not even close right now. You know, one of
the things about l A, Uh, it's a town where
you gotta win championships to get people's attention, or you
got to compete for championships. And right now, I guess
the Lakers are just not on that on that playing field,
on that level right now, and the Dodgers are, and uh,
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you know, this whole town is going crazy with the
chance of the Dodgers to win it. You know, you
definitely you've definitely seen a lot of of energy and
a lot of just this attention being paid to the
Dodgers right now. And this this this is truly it's
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truly a Dodgers town, so everybody's excited about the upcoming
World Series. I think we start on Friday, so it's
a big deal out here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Byron Chamberlain is a two time Super Bowl winner as
a tight end for the Denver Broncos. After that portion
of his career, he landed with the Minnesota Vikings. That's
how I got to know him, and we've stayed in
touch over the years. I recently saw him at Tottenham
Hotspur Stadium and here he is doing a covenant catchup
as we head to his part of the part of
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the country, southern California where Byron lives for the Chargers
tomorrow night seven fifteen Central on KFA in and back
to Sofi Stadium and the Rams and the Chargers for
a seconds. As a player, all right, how would it
feel if you played for either of the Rams or
the Chargers and you have a home game and say,
the Niners or Chiefs fans dominate the building every single season?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Wouldn't that bug you?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think people, that's just the way it is out here.
I mean, you know, we're We're a city where a
lot of people come from other places and to for
whatever reasons, whether they're coming for the entertainment industry or
coming for just new opportunities. So we got a lot
of people from a lot of different places. And when
they come out here, whether they're they're coming out here
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from from Chicago or Minneapolis or or Cleveland or whatever,
they bring their their loyalty and with their teams with them,
so they show up in our stadiums and it's kind
of it's kind of funny, especially with the with the charges.
I mean, the joke is it's it's always the other
team's home game, right, because there are a lot of
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a lot of fans from a you know. And then
and then the other part is a lot of people
come out here just for that game. They plan their
vacations around it uh to make to come out to
California for that. So it's a weird situation to be
the home team and and the stands look like you're
the visiting team.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Byron, just a couple more here for Byron Chamberlain beloved BC.
Byron attended the University of Missouri and Wayne State. And
and I know you love Missouri Tigers football man, and
the squad is like fourteenth in the country. You love
those Tigers don't you.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, you know, I do, you know I do. And
we got a big one this weekend going to Vanderbilt.
Who and Vanderbilt looks like, you know, the the darling
of the NCAA right now. They're in the top ten.
They're having unprecedented success in the SEC as well as
you know overall. So it's going to be an interesting game.
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It's going to be to me, it's the game of
the week. And whoever you know, wins this game between
Missouri and Vanderbilt will probably have an inside track on
one of the playoff spots. So it's kind of a
weird thing to say. It's been a weird kind of
college football season. So I'm looking for a huge game
with with the with the the Tigers and the and
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UH and Vandy. You know, they have a they're making
a Heis And Trophy candidacy for their quarterback Diego Pavia
and and and he deserves it. He deserves it. He's,
like I said, he's done some things and led that
that organ that team to some unprecedented success overall.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So when when when you when you played for the
Vikings for those couple of years, uh, you had a
teammate who played on defense. Who was really really good
at Vanderbilt. Do you remember who it was?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh, Man, I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Defensive back. One season he had eight or nine interceptions.
Here's your final hint. He was known, uh, he was
known for his college film watching skills and would always
walk around with.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
The yeah Vanderbilt legend.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
He was fantastic and and.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I got to know I got to know Corey actually
when he was in college at Vanderbilt. His uncle was
a was a big time Barney Broncos legend, Barney Tabish
and was one of our on our coaching staff when
I was with our two time Super Bowl championship team.
And so Corey would come out and work out with us,
and he'd be on the field and picking our brain
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and trying to cover ed McCaffrey at Rod Smith. Yeah,
And so he would spend his summers out there in
Denver with us. So got to know him very very well.
Became a very very close friend, and I totally faced
on he was with the Vanderbilt Yeah, very intelligent guy.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think I think Corey when he was in middle
school or high school and Barney was on the coaching
staff for the Broncos. Corey may have shut down in
a practice a receiver named Haven Moses, but I had
to remy Haven might have been sixty eight years old.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I always love that at that time.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Lastly, uh, with like back in the day at Missouri.
All right, so you're gonna have a career that gets
you to the National Football League, which is hard and
it doesn't happen for most people. So clearly you were
very good. How would N I L have worked out
for you back in the day at Missouri?
Speaker 6 (11:23):
I mean, oh my god, like would would would you
have gotten fat stacks of of like gift certificates or
money from c C City broiler, c.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
C City CC City Broiler. I would want mine from
Shakespeare's Pizza. That's probably I was my my certificate from.
But yeah, you know, you know, born just born in
a different era. I love I love N I L.
I love what it's doing for some of you know,
these players, and a lot of these players come from
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situations where their families really are being helped with this
nil money. The only thing that I think is, you know,
there should be some guardrails around it. It's the it's
the the N I I mean it's it's kind of
the wild wild West right now. And there just needs
to be some guardrails around the n I L and
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and and the combination of the transfer portal.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But but I love that the players are benefiting now.
I love that they, like I said, it is helping
some of these families. That there's only these people kids
who are coming from from desperate situations. So uh, you know,
more power to it. I think I would have made
a couple of bucks here there.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Uh b b C b C.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
That was a fantastic covenant catch up uh for the
public on k F A M. We'll do the same
thing on the sideline tomorrow night before the Vikings and
l A Chargers.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I greatly appreciate the time. Have a wonderful day.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, all right, thanks man having me go byt.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
See you, but Byron Chamberlain former Vikings tight at BC
underscore Chamberlain via the X machine. The penultimate is around
the corner. It involves the NFC North identity or lack thereof.
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Speaker 1 (13:30):
This is an identity piece involving the National Football League,
specifically the NFC North and talkbacks. Yeah, I mean, if
you want to fire some talkbacks in on what I'm
about ready to unfurl, then we will have time to
play a few in either this segment or the final segment,
and that I promise, So talkbacks. If you'd like to
help free iHeart Audio app, you get it from three
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to three. Here's what the talkback would be. Define the
Minnesota Vikings identity.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Talk back free iHeart Audio App up to thirty seconds
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Speaker 3 (14:11):
It's an og. It's an og. It really is. From
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Speaker 1 (14:15):
Via the talkback or talkback zop define the Minnesota Vikings identity.
Get on in here and help the cause. NFC North identity.
We have Green Bay and this guy. Three receivers right,
two to the left, five wide. Here's the snap set sets.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
In the pocket peace chased piece sack.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
It is a makeup Parsons Project back outside the twenty
yard line.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Holded Micup Parsons, bring it.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
On this set of downs, Wayne Larvie, the Dagger on
the Packers ever expanding audio network.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
How about the Micah Parsons Project. Yeah, Alan Parsons styles.
Brilliant little bit there by larav.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I wrote that into the Tolstoy Monday, And when I
wrote it in it was copyright Wayne Laravie. Because as
I was mowing and chopping the leaves and everything this
weekend when fan line would go to break, I would
listen to Packers Arizona and I heard Laravi unfurl the
Micah Parsons Project. Copyright the Dagger and Micah is that
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of identity?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Okay, the so is justin Jefferson. We'll get to the
Vikings momentarily.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But the Packers, as they await their quarterback taking taking
another step from whether you want to say from good
to very good, very good to elite, you can frame
it up however you want. They're waiting for him to
take the next step. They're working through some offensive line situations.
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Josh Jacob scores two times every single game, but he's
battling some injuries. Their first round receiver Golden with Dobbs
and Dontavian Wicks and Tuckerkraft is the bomb. But can
you really say that identifies Green Bay Packers football in
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I can.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
What I can say is Michael Parsons just had three sacks.
And you just don't get traded from the team that
brush you into the league and immediately become Laurence Taylor
out of the gate.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It takes time.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, the identity of the Green Bay Packers is becoming
that of a ferocious pass rushing defense that has some
corners and safeties like K nine guy Keishawn Nixon or
say Evan Williams where I think they believe they probably
can do better. But when you pay the quarterback, which
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you pay the quarterback, then you can't exactly go out
there and try to get the Sauce Cad Gardeners of
the world until the ledger evens out. So that pass
rush is super important to them for myriad reasons. But
the pass rushing excellence of the Green Bay Packers, with
the likes of Michael Parsons, Rashan Gary and Edge and Cooper,
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that has become their identity, and it's a good identity.
What about the Lions and this guy.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Down hands to severity. There it goes put race right side.
You've got no shot at catching that man cut fun
hend zone touchdown, Detroit Lions.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Seventy eight yards of faults of lightning, and the Lions
are extra portaway from doubling up their lead.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
The division champions, the reigning division champions, drip identity. We
put the Gibbs highlight in there. It could have been
Aman Ross Aint Brown. Yeah, it could have been Aiden Hutchinson.
It could have been branch and or Joseph doing something.
They drip identity. Their quarterback has been to the Super Bowl,
and you know, for the most part, is pretty solid,
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pretty sound, and pretty consistent. So the Lions, they have
identity all over the place, ma'am. Then you get to
the Chicago Bears with their new coach Ben Johnson. The
Bears have settled into beloved Bjays bust you up style.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And four yards behind him is Banung Guy.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Motion right is loveling give.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Tubanun guy slitting in pour the touchdown touchdown. Bears had
the first career rushing touchdown.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
For Kyle Banung Guy.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Only a yard, but it expands the lead to nineteen nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
When I say Ben Johnson has his team is settling
into its identity that's beloved Bjay's bust you up style
with the running game. Anybody happened to know what's happened
with the Bears running game the last two games. Anybody
have any idea, because this stuff takes time when you
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have new coaches and new quarterbacks and new schemes and
new expectations and new cultures. The Chicago Bears in the
last two games have run for three hundred and forty
six yards both wins. He's raising a quarterback. He's raising
a quarterback who never played under center and turned his
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back onto defense via play action.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He's working with.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That guy to he's getting the bust you in the
face style of running game. And by the way, they've
won both those games where they've run for the three
forty six he's getting that squared away as he raises
the quarterback to take pressure off the quarterback as they
have him do things he's never done. It's coming together.
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The running game with the Chicago Bears is identifiable to
what Ben Johnson wants to do here or in Detroit,
and then play off of it. So they have an identity.
What about the Minnesota Vikings, what's their identity? I mean,
no takeaways three games in a row, not sacking with
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the new interior guys. And I said, new Jalen Redmond's
the best defensive lineman they have, but he was sacked.
He's been sacking all year. But the new guys not
sacking with new interior guys or from the edge, sans
gingk sans Van Ginkel fixed the run defense and Jalen
went for a perfect passer rating. Ballyhooed kid quarterbacks not playing.
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New guy makes his debut and leaves fans wanting more.
Talking about Carson Wentz with like a thirty eight point
victory against Sincy. Fans left us Bank Stadium knew they
weren't going to see their favorite team for a month
and Carson along with others, but Carson in his debut
left them wanting more. It's been topsy turvy ever since.
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And both quarterbacks we have both quarterbacks the Vikings have
used this year outside of the mop up with the Throsmer,
both quarterbacks have thrown pick sixes. So the kicker is fantastic,
but the kicker can't be the identity, So what's the identity?
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Free iHeart Audio talkback. He got up to thirty seconds.
We'll pause now, drop in some talkbacks and I'll share
with you what moving forward. I believe the identity will
and maybe has to be. But that's around the corner
on KFA.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Agutit aga wait until the Morrow.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Talkbacks nine to noon courtesy of f vpparts dot com
f VP Batteries Verified and approven discussing identities of the
NFC North Let's let's let's let's bring the guests in
first and and see what they have to say. The
guests being the uh the talkbackers kind enough to take
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time out of their days to go to the free
iHeart Audio app and leave a talkback. We The question
was identify the Minnesota Vikings three and three define what
their identity is into this Chargers game.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Hey ba Hey, Nordo, Max Reveigan Again. I think their
record perfectly describes what this is. They're just average. We're
three and three because we will win half of our
games and we will lose half of our games if
we keep playing the way we're playing. We make good plays,
we make bad plays. We played well on defense, we
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play bad on defense. It's just how this Viking team
is and that's how it's going to be the whole season.
I think, yeah, we're just average.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So yeah through six, uh defined pretty accurately through six
through six teams with some of the players this team
has on it injured or not not supposed to be
of the average variety like eight to nine or nine
and eight at the end of the equation.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
What's next?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Hey, Pa, It's Annie from Saint Anthony and I'm calling
in to answer your question about the Vikings current.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Identity as a team.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
And my take is that we're playing the long game.
That's our identity at this point.
Speaker 9 (22:57):
I don't think we give enough credit to choc and
leadership to really foster JJ so that we can define
our identity as a winning team in the future.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well done, because they are playing the long game, having
to wait for the quarterback. So the quarterback healthy, throwing
pick sixes or four touchdowns against zero interceptions a game,
JJ McCarthy, that is the long game. That it's not
everything in the ultimate team game, but it's a lot
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because a big investment was made into him and it's
age old.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
If you can keep, if you can.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Hit on these quarterbacks and have them for five years
on quasi team friendly deals and four to five the village.
I mean, that's how you get to end or win
the Super Bowl. That's the long game. That truly is
the identity of the Minnesota Vikings. The long game with
JJ McCarthy. Yeah, and being in you know, more of
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a game by game or like you know, from three
to three after this Chargers game, just like on the field,
what do we think the identity is? That'd be different,
but the over arching identity and Andy laid it out nicely.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
What's next?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Apa Tim from Shreview, I think we need to channel
our inner Hall and Oates to identify the identity of
the Vikings. Shake it up as all that we know
using bodies up as we go, I'm waking up to fantasy.
The shades all around are the colors we used to see.
You're out of touch, I'm out of time. Let's start
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the kid school.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Just for the time you put into that to Actually,
I'm going to guess that you had to hit the
Google machine for out of touch lyrics. Shake it up
all that we know? That was really cool and multiple
bodies because of the injuries. Very well done there, what
about it having to be the passing game. You drip
identity with Jefferson and Addison, and Naylor gets open more
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than he doesn't. Other than the fourth quarter at Soldier Field,
the Cincinnati game, or the Addison drive at Tottenham. There's
been nothing identifiable with this group and that just has
to change. Yeah, last year they took it from you
and scored with it. That's an identity. They sacked you
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and battered you and bludgeoned you and forced you to
throw it to him and Van ginkle would get to
the house. That's an identity. Well, we're lacking van Ginkole,
which means from that facet, you're lacking identity. Instead of
a an identity crisis, we need to establish identisty.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Identity lisis.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Lisis lisus as in the disintegration of a cell by
rupture of the cell wall or membrane.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I always love that Google.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean you talk about finding words are rhyme
with crisis, and they're trying to push basis on me.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Instead of an identity crisis, we need to establish identity lisis. Yep,
it's time to start blowing up cells. Cell walls and membranes.
That's the only answer identity, lisis, let's just tear up
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those charger cells, rip up those cell walls, and get
into the insane in the membrane.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I always love that one. It's the only answer.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
If we lose tomorrow night, If the Vikings lose tomorrow
night and all all others in the division win, our
problem just becomes larger. I mean, now we're approaching the
midway point of the season and.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
The charge are so beatable.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
We're three enough point underdogs in this game, so I'm
just spitballing here, Like if an identity transpires tomorrow night.
The Chargers have at least statistically a pretty good, if
not really good pass defense. Derwin James, one of their
safeties is the Bomb. What a phenomenal player and career
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he's had. So maybe this is putting valor is the
better order of discretion. But your best players are wide
receivers and your head coach is pretty good with his
throwing schemes.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So I don't know. Maybe it's the passing game. What
do you think for identity?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
The con Well, I I get where you're that is
the identity of this team. Sadly, right now is the
star power that it has at its fingertips, that being
Justin Jefferson, the ability of a of a Jordan Addison,
and so that is the quickest route to finding it. Yeah,
last year you had a team that led the led
the NFL in turnovers the defense that could be an
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identifiable point no takes in the last three. This is
a team with that pass rush win healthy from a
pressure rate perspective, success in an all pro type season
for an Andrew van Ginkle, that's off the table. The
identity of this team is inconsistency. And there we heard
it through the talkbacks, varying ways of how to put it,
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the ups and downs you heard from Annie and and
just kind of the three and three. There's another talkback
that just said the Vikings identity right now, they're basically
an average Lions team that we're built in similar ways,
but that stuff is working in Motown. Our stuff is
now working in Minneapolis. Their inability to do the things
they did so well a year ago. The inconsistency, I
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think is that that's our identity right now. I don't
know if they can get to that passing game that
you want. I'm excited for JJ to get healthy, and
we're going to get to see him at some point.
I'm going to root for Carson tomorrow night, absolutely that
he throws for four hundred and four against the Bolts.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I don't know if we can get to that.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Where we can say, well we're four and three, or
even if we're three and four. But man, we know,
under the right circumstances, if we get a right play,
we can support this identity, which is we're high flying
through the air. The coach wants to pass. He's doing
everything he can do to make that our identity. I
don't know if we have I don't know if we
have the right option under center right now. Inconsistency for
me is the name of the sadly, the name of
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a three and three game.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yep, that's that that that would be the identity out
of inconsistency. We we we detailed it a little bit Monday,
you know, after the after the montage.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
But it's like you can't beg it. You know, I've
done this, like, man, I wish they ran the ball more. Well,
you can play that, you know, you can think that,
and you can you can look in certain aspects like
they're They're never It's never going to be the identity
of this team, right, I think it's fair to say
that that how this offense is constructed, it's never going
to be Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason. That dueling attack
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is the identity of the Vikings. I think it can
very quickly shift, however, where defense, despite offensive minded head coach,
if the sacks start coming and the turnovers start coming,
you can start to have that conversation again. As I know,
as tough as it was to watch Jalen Hurts do
what he did, perfect passer rating and everything, I think that.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Can start to become your identity again.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
So whether it's air attack at its finest or potentially
defense starts taking it again, starts you know, killing qbs again,
I think that is another pathway, hopefully to victories and
consistency from the purple.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Beautifully stated and more of the twenty twenty five Minnesota
Vikings identity or lack thereof, will be revealed tomorrow evening
at seven fifteen with the Boom. And by the way,
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Stuff, probably after he says, And now ladies and gentlemen
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Speaker 2 (31:37):
Don you
Former Minnesota Vikings tight end Byron Chamberlain, two time Super
Bowl champion with the Denver Broncos, played a couple of
productive seasons with the Minnesota Vikings and via x via
the Tweak Machine at BC Underscore Chamberlain. Byron was great
seeing you in London. How are things out so cowway
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and good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, how you doing? Everything is wonderful out here
in southern California looking forward to the Vikings showing up
in town this week.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I lived in southern California for a decade and a half,
went to high school and junior college there at Pasadena
City College from seventy nine to ninety three overall, and
it was wonderful. You know, traffic always has been a
thing with the four h five, But Newport Beach, Huntington
Beach and then Redondo and Venice and all that fantastic.
Is that still the case? Is Southern California still a
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great place to live?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is still a great place to live. So much
to do out here. The weather has been incredible this week.
It's been in in the load of mid eighties all
week long, so it's just been great. Uh yeah. The beaches,
of course, the place is to be. I'm now at
cal State l A. So I'm not too far from
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uh PCC. Yeah, and your in your old PCC days. Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, will we see you at the game tomorrow night?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Uh, you definitely will see me there. I'll be wearing
my my Bikings purple, uh, cheering on our team.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So that's sweet.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Who who's the best overall tight end in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And why?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Mm hmm? That is a that is a great question
right now, right now, you know, I mean there's just
some guys I'm like. Of course, I like our guy.
I like t J for sure. And he's one of
the guys that I that I that I watch and
he's carrying on uh that that tradition of excellent vikings
tight ends. I like, uh, you know, and he's not
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much of a blocker, but Pitts I like Pitts in
in Atlanta. You know, he doesn't really do much blocking
with more like a big a big receiver, but I
like what he can do down the field. What about
the kid uh in Oakland out of Georgia Bowers. Yeah,
he's to me, he's he's like the next guy. He's
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up and coming. He's so athletic. He can just do
so much and he's just such such a threat. So
those are some of the guys that I really watch.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And the the LA Chargers have a tight end named
Ronde Gadsden. The second now Byron played when Ronde's father
played wide receiver for the Miami Dolphins. Ronde gads did him, uh,
and and his son the second that young man Byron
just went for like one seventy and one is the
Syracuse rookie. Do you know anything about this Ronde Gadsden
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the second, Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And you know, like you said, I I know his
father played in the same era as his father, and
I got a chance to uh cover him when he
was at Syracuse. I did the game when Syracuse played
Western Michigan a couple of years ago. And he's just
you know, just watching film on him, just so athletic.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
He's the guy that creates some mismatch problems.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, we talked about Pitts down in in Atlanta.
Similar to him, He's not gonna wow you with this blocking,
but he blocks just enough. But he's the guy that
in that passing game, he's gonna he's gonna create mismatches.
He's a guy that can take it down the field,
down the scene, so so you can you can uh
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really get big plays and become a threat at the
tight end position. So got a chance, like I said, uh,
you know, to to cover him a couple of years
ago when he was at Syracuse be.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Seeing Byron Chamberlin.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Uh does does anybody care about the Chargers in southern California?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Absolutely not. Uh. You know the thing about it is,
you know people still look at them as the San
Diego Chargers, and a lot of people in this town think, hey,
they're not our team. You know, the Rams you know,
coming back from Saint Louis years ago. Uh, they had
a built in fan base here that never left. And
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everybody knows this. This is a when it comes to football,
it's a Rams town. It's a it's a USC Trojan town. Uh.
And and the other sports are it's a Lakers town,
and it's a Dodgers town for sure. Uh and and
uh the Charges are kind of like the misfit toys.
You know, they're you know, nobody wants to play with.
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So you know, it's tough for them. It's been tougher
to them to build a fan base here in l A.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Your Dodgers out Chavez Ravine way, They're they're favored to
win the World Series for a second consecutive yere, then
you got Lebron and Luca and the Lakers. Lebron didn't
play last night. Luca had just a massive, massive game,
but they still lost to the Golden State Warriors. So
who would you say overall is the more popular team
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and why the Dodgers are Lakers?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh, it's definitely the Dodgers. It's definitely the Dodgers. And
it's not even close right now. You know, one of
the things about l A, Uh, it's a town where
you gotta win championships to get people's attention, or you
got to compete for championships. And right now, I guess
the Lakers are just not on that on that playing field,
on that level right now, and the Dodgers are, and uh,
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you know, this whole town is going crazy with the
chance of the Dodgers to win it. You know, you
definitely you've definitely seen a lot of of energy and
a lot of just this attention being paid to the
Dodgers right now. And this this this is truly it's
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truly a Dodgers town, so everybody's excited about the upcoming
World Series. I think we start on Friday, so it's
a big deal out here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Byron Chamberlain is a two time Super Bowl winner as
a tight end for the Denver Broncos. After that portion
of his career, he landed with the Minnesota Vikings. That's
how I got to know him, and we've stayed in
touch over the years. I recently saw him at Tottenham
Hotspur Stadium and here he is doing a covenant catchup
as we head to his part of the part of
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the country, southern California where Byron lives for the Chargers
tomorrow night seven fifteen Central on KFA in and back
to Sofi Stadium and the Rams and the Chargers for
a seconds. As a player, all right, how would it
feel if you played for either of the Rams or
the Chargers and you have a home game and say,
the Niners or Chiefs fans dominate the building every single season?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Wouldn't that bug you?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think people, that's just the way it is out here.
I mean, you know, we're We're a city where a
lot of people come from other places and to for
whatever reasons, whether they're coming for the entertainment industry or
coming for just new opportunities. So we got a lot
of people from a lot of different places. And when
they come out here, whether they're they're coming out here
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from from Chicago or Minneapolis or or Cleveland or whatever,
they bring their their loyalty and with their teams with them,
so they show up in our stadiums and it's kind
of it's kind of funny, especially with the with the charges.
I mean, the joke is it's it's always the other
team's home game, right, because there are a lot of
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a lot of fans from a you know. And then
and then the other part is a lot of people
come out here just for that game. They plan their
vacations around it uh to make to come out to
California for that. So it's a weird situation to be
the home team and and the stands look like you're
the visiting team.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Byron, just a couple more here for Byron Chamberlain beloved BC.
Byron attended the University of Missouri and Wayne State. And
and I know you love Missouri Tigers football man, and
the squad is like fourteenth in the country. You love
those Tigers don't you.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, you know, I do, you know I do. And
we got a big one this weekend going to Vanderbilt.
Who and Vanderbilt looks like, you know, the the darling
of the NCAA right now. They're in the top ten.
They're having unprecedented success in the SEC as well as
you know overall. So it's going to be an interesting game.
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It's going to be to me, it's the game of
the week. And whoever you know, wins this game between
Missouri and Vanderbilt will probably have an inside track on
one of the playoff spots. So it's kind of a
weird thing to say. It's been a weird kind of
college football season. So I'm looking for a huge game
with with the with the the Tigers and the and
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UH and Vandy. You know, they have a they're making
a Heis And Trophy candidacy for their quarterback Diego Pavia
and and and he deserves it. He deserves it. He's,
like I said, he's done some things and led that
that organ that team to some unprecedented success overall.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So when when when you when you played for the
Vikings for those couple of years, uh, you had a
teammate who played on defense. Who was really really good
at Vanderbilt. Do you remember who it was?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh, Man, I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Defensive back. One season he had eight or nine interceptions.
Here's your final hint. He was known, uh, he was
known for his college film watching skills and would always
walk around with.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
The yeah Vanderbilt legend.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
He was fantastic and and.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I got to know I got to know Corey actually
when he was in college at Vanderbilt. His uncle was
a was a big time Barney Broncos legend, Barney Tabish
and was one of our on our coaching staff when
I was with our two time Super Bowl championship team.
And so Corey would come out and work out with us,
and he'd be on the field and picking our brain
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and trying to cover ed McCaffrey at Rod Smith. Yeah,
And so he would spend his summers out there in
Denver with us. So got to know him very very well.
Became a very very close friend, and I totally faced
on he was with the Vanderbilt Yeah, very intelligent guy.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think I think Corey when he was in middle
school or high school and Barney was on the coaching
staff for the Broncos. Corey may have shut down in
a practice a receiver named Haven Moses, but I had
to remy Haven might have been sixty eight years old.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I always love that at that time.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Lastly, uh, with like back in the day at Missouri.
All right, so you're gonna have a career that gets
you to the National Football League, which is hard and
it doesn't happen for most people. So clearly you were
very good. How would N I L have worked out
for you back in the day at Missouri?
Speaker 6 (11:23):
I mean, oh my god, like would would would you
have gotten fat stacks of of like gift certificates or
money from c C City broiler, c.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
C City CC City Broiler. I would want mine from
Shakespeare's Pizza. That's probably I was my my certificate from.
But yeah, you know, you know, born just born in
a different era. I love I love N I L.
I love what it's doing for some of you know,
these players, and a lot of these players come from
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situations where their families really are being helped with this
nil money. The only thing that I think is, you know,
there should be some guardrails around it. It's the it's
the the N I I mean it's it's kind of
the wild wild West right now. And there just needs
to be some guardrails around the n I L and
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and and the combination of the transfer portal.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But but I love that the players are benefiting now.
I love that they, like I said, it is helping
some of these families. That there's only these people kids
who are coming from from desperate situations. So uh, you know,
more power to it. I think I would have made
a couple of bucks here there.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Uh b b C b C.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
That was a fantastic covenant catch up uh for the
public on k F A M. We'll do the same
thing on the sideline tomorrow night before the Vikings and
l A Chargers.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I greatly appreciate the time. Have a wonderful day.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, all right, thanks man having me go byt.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
See you, but Byron Chamberlain former Vikings tight at BC
underscore Chamberlain via the X machine. The penultimate is around
the corner. It involves the NFC North identity or lack thereof.
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This is an identity piece involving the National Football League,
specifically the NFC North and talkbacks. Yeah, I mean, if
you want to fire some talkbacks in on what I'm
about ready to unfurl, then we will have time to
play a few in either this segment or the final segment,
and that I promise, So talkbacks. If you'd like to
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to three. Here's what the talkback would be. Define the
Minnesota Vikings identity.
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Via the talkback or talkback zop define the Minnesota Vikings identity.
Get on in here and help the cause. NFC North identity.
We have Green Bay and this guy. Three receivers right,
two to the left, five wide. Here's the snap set sets.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
In the pocket peace chased piece sack.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
It is a makeup Parsons Project back outside the twenty
yard line.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Holded Micup Parsons, bring it.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
On this set of downs, Wayne Larvie, the Dagger on
the Packers ever expanding audio network.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
How about the Micah Parsons Project. Yeah, Alan Parsons styles.
Brilliant little bit there by larav.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I wrote that into the Tolstoy Monday, And when I
wrote it in it was copyright Wayne Laravie. Because as
I was mowing and chopping the leaves and everything this
weekend when fan line would go to break, I would
listen to Packers Arizona and I heard Laravi unfurl the
Micah Parsons Project. Copyright the Dagger and Micah is that
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of identity?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Okay, the so is justin Jefferson. We'll get to the
Vikings momentarily.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But the Packers, as they await their quarterback taking taking
another step from whether you want to say from good
to very good, very good to elite, you can frame
it up however you want. They're waiting for him to
take the next step. They're working through some offensive line situations.
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Josh Jacob scores two times every single game, but he's
battling some injuries. Their first round receiver Golden with Dobbs
and Dontavian Wicks and Tuckerkraft is the bomb. But can
you really say that identifies Green Bay Packers football in
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I can.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
What I can say is Michael Parsons just had three sacks.
And you just don't get traded from the team that
brush you into the league and immediately become Laurence Taylor
out of the gate.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It takes time.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, the identity of the Green Bay Packers is becoming
that of a ferocious pass rushing defense that has some
corners and safeties like K nine guy Keishawn Nixon or
say Evan Williams where I think they believe they probably
can do better. But when you pay the quarterback, which
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you pay the quarterback, then you can't exactly go out
there and try to get the Sauce Cad Gardeners of
the world until the ledger evens out. So that pass
rush is super important to them for myriad reasons. But
the pass rushing excellence of the Green Bay Packers, with
the likes of Michael Parsons, Rashan Gary and Edge and Cooper,
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that has become their identity, and it's a good identity.
What about the Lions and this guy.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Down hands to severity. There it goes put race right side.
You've got no shot at catching that man cut fun
hend zone touchdown, Detroit Lions.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Seventy eight yards of faults of lightning, and the Lions
are extra portaway from doubling up their lead.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
The division champions, the reigning division champions, drip identity. We
put the Gibbs highlight in there. It could have been
Aman Ross Aint Brown. Yeah, it could have been Aiden Hutchinson.
It could have been branch and or Joseph doing something.
They drip identity. Their quarterback has been to the Super Bowl,
and you know, for the most part, is pretty solid,
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pretty sound, and pretty consistent. So the Lions, they have
identity all over the place, ma'am. Then you get to
the Chicago Bears with their new coach Ben Johnson. The
Bears have settled into beloved Bjays bust you up style.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And four yards behind him is Banung Guy.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Motion right is loveling give.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Tubanun guy slitting in pour the touchdown touchdown. Bears had
the first career rushing touchdown.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
For Kyle Banung Guy.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Only a yard, but it expands the lead to nineteen nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
When I say Ben Johnson has his team is settling
into its identity that's beloved Bjay's bust you up style
with the running game. Anybody happened to know what's happened
with the Bears running game the last two games. Anybody
have any idea, because this stuff takes time when you
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have new coaches and new quarterbacks and new schemes and
new expectations and new cultures. The Chicago Bears in the
last two games have run for three hundred and forty
six yards both wins. He's raising a quarterback. He's raising
a quarterback who never played under center and turned his
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back onto defense via play action.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He's working with.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That guy to he's getting the bust you in the
face style of running game. And by the way, they've
won both those games where they've run for the three
forty six he's getting that squared away as he raises
the quarterback to take pressure off the quarterback as they
have him do things he's never done. It's coming together.
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The running game with the Chicago Bears is identifiable to
what Ben Johnson wants to do here or in Detroit,
and then play off of it. So they have an identity.
What about the Minnesota Vikings, what's their identity? I mean,
no takeaways three games in a row, not sacking with
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the new interior guys. And I said, new Jalen Redmond's
the best defensive lineman they have, but he was sacked.
He's been sacking all year. But the new guys not
sacking with new interior guys or from the edge, sans
gingk sans Van Ginkel fixed the run defense and Jalen
went for a perfect passer rating. Ballyhooed kid quarterbacks not playing.
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New guy makes his debut and leaves fans wanting more.
Talking about Carson Wentz with like a thirty eight point
victory against Sincy. Fans left us Bank Stadium knew they
weren't going to see their favorite team for a month
and Carson along with others, but Carson in his debut
left them wanting more. It's been topsy turvy ever since.
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And both quarterbacks we have both quarterbacks the Vikings have
used this year outside of the mop up with the Throsmer,
both quarterbacks have thrown pick sixes. So the kicker is fantastic,
but the kicker can't be the identity, So what's the identity?
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Free iHeart Audio talkback. He got up to thirty seconds.
We'll pause now, drop in some talkbacks and I'll share
with you what moving forward. I believe the identity will
and maybe has to be. But that's around the corner
on KFA.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
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Talkbacks nine to noon courtesy of f vpparts dot com
f VP Batteries Verified and approven discussing identities of the
NFC North Let's let's let's let's bring the guests in
first and and see what they have to say. The
guests being the uh the talkbackers kind enough to take
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time out of their days to go to the free
iHeart Audio app and leave a talkback. We The question
was identify the Minnesota Vikings three and three define what
their identity is into this Chargers game.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Hey ba Hey, Nordo, Max Reveigan Again. I think their
record perfectly describes what this is. They're just average. We're
three and three because we will win half of our
games and we will lose half of our games if
we keep playing the way we're playing. We make good plays,
we make bad plays. We played well on defense, we
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play bad on defense. It's just how this Viking team
is and that's how it's going to be the whole season.
I think, yeah, we're just average.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So yeah through six, uh defined pretty accurately through six
through six teams with some of the players this team
has on it injured or not not supposed to be
of the average variety like eight to nine or nine
and eight at the end of the equation.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
What's next?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Hey, Pa, It's Annie from Saint Anthony and I'm calling
in to answer your question about the Vikings current.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Identity as a team.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
And my take is that we're playing the long game.
That's our identity at this point.
Speaker 9 (22:57):
I don't think we give enough credit to choc and
leadership to really foster JJ so that we can define
our identity as a winning team in the future.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well done, because they are playing the long game, having
to wait for the quarterback. So the quarterback healthy, throwing
pick sixes or four touchdowns against zero interceptions a game,
JJ McCarthy, that is the long game. That it's not
everything in the ultimate team game, but it's a lot
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because a big investment was made into him and it's
age old.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
If you can keep, if you can.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Hit on these quarterbacks and have them for five years
on quasi team friendly deals and four to five the village.
I mean, that's how you get to end or win
the Super Bowl. That's the long game. That truly is
the identity of the Minnesota Vikings. The long game with
JJ McCarthy. Yeah, and being in you know, more of
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a game by game or like you know, from three
to three after this Chargers game, just like on the field,
what do we think the identity is? That'd be different,
but the over arching identity and Andy laid it out nicely.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
What's next?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Apa Tim from Shreview, I think we need to channel
our inner Hall and Oates to identify the identity of
the Vikings. Shake it up as all that we know
using bodies up as we go, I'm waking up to fantasy.
The shades all around are the colors we used to see.
You're out of touch, I'm out of time. Let's start
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the kid school.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Just for the time you put into that to Actually,
I'm going to guess that you had to hit the
Google machine for out of touch lyrics. Shake it up
all that we know? That was really cool and multiple
bodies because of the injuries. Very well done there, what
about it having to be the passing game. You drip
identity with Jefferson and Addison, and Naylor gets open more
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than he doesn't. Other than the fourth quarter at Soldier Field,
the Cincinnati game, or the Addison drive at Tottenham. There's
been nothing identifiable with this group and that just has
to change. Yeah, last year they took it from you
and scored with it. That's an identity. They sacked you
(25:25):
and battered you and bludgeoned you and forced you to
throw it to him and Van ginkle would get to
the house. That's an identity. Well, we're lacking van Ginkole,
which means from that facet, you're lacking identity. Instead of
a an identity crisis, we need to establish identisty.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Identity lisis.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Lisis lisus as in the disintegration of a cell by
rupture of the cell wall or membrane.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I always love that Google.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean you talk about finding words are rhyme
with crisis, and they're trying to push basis on me.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Instead of an identity crisis, we need to establish identity lisis. Yep,
it's time to start blowing up cells. Cell walls and membranes.
That's the only answer identity, lisis, let's just tear up
(26:33):
those charger cells, rip up those cell walls, and get
into the insane in the membrane.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I always love that one. It's the only answer.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
If we lose tomorrow night, If the Vikings lose tomorrow
night and all all others in the division win, our
problem just becomes larger. I mean, now we're approaching the
midway point of the season and.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
The charge are so beatable.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
We're three enough point underdogs in this game, so I'm
just spitballing here, Like if an identity transpires tomorrow night.
The Chargers have at least statistically a pretty good, if
not really good pass defense. Derwin James, one of their
safeties is the Bomb. What a phenomenal player and career
(27:23):
he's had. So maybe this is putting valor is the
better order of discretion. But your best players are wide
receivers and your head coach is pretty good with his
throwing schemes.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So I don't know. Maybe it's the passing game. What
do you think for identity?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
The con Well, I I get where you're that is
the identity of this team. Sadly, right now is the
star power that it has at its fingertips, that being
Justin Jefferson, the ability of a of a Jordan Addison,
and so that is the quickest route to finding it. Yeah,
last year you had a team that led the led
the NFL in turnovers the defense that could be an
(28:02):
identifiable point no takes in the last three. This is
a team with that pass rush win healthy from a
pressure rate perspective, success in an all pro type season
for an Andrew van Ginkle, that's off the table. The
identity of this team is inconsistency. And there we heard
it through the talkbacks, varying ways of how to put it,
(28:23):
the ups and downs you heard from Annie and and
just kind of the three and three. There's another talkback
that just said the Vikings identity right now, they're basically
an average Lions team that we're built in similar ways,
but that stuff is working in Motown. Our stuff is
now working in Minneapolis. Their inability to do the things
they did so well a year ago. The inconsistency, I
(28:46):
think is that that's our identity right now. I don't
know if they can get to that passing game that
you want. I'm excited for JJ to get healthy, and
we're going to get to see him at some point.
I'm going to root for Carson tomorrow night, absolutely that
he throws for four hundred and four against the Bolts.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I don't know if we can get to that.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Where we can say, well we're four and three, or
even if we're three and four. But man, we know,
under the right circumstances, if we get a right play,
we can support this identity, which is we're high flying
through the air. The coach wants to pass. He's doing
everything he can do to make that our identity. I
don't know if we have I don't know if we
have the right option under center right now. Inconsistency for
me is the name of the sadly, the name of
(29:27):
a three and three game.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yep, that's that that that would be the identity out
of inconsistency. We we we detailed it a little bit Monday,
you know, after the after the montage.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
But it's like you can't beg it. You know, I've
done this, like, man, I wish they ran the ball more. Well,
you can play that, you know, you can think that,
and you can you can look in certain aspects like
they're They're never It's never going to be the identity
of this team, right, I think it's fair to say
that that how this offense is constructed, it's never going
to be Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason. That dueling attack
(29:58):
is the identity of the Vikings. I think it can
very quickly shift, however, where defense, despite offensive minded head coach,
if the sacks start coming and the turnovers start coming,
you can start to have that conversation again. As I know,
as tough as it was to watch Jalen Hurts do
what he did, perfect passer rating and everything, I think that.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Can start to become your identity again.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
So whether it's air attack at its finest or potentially
defense starts taking it again, starts you know, killing qbs again,
I think that is another pathway, hopefully to victories and
consistency from the purple.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Beautifully stated and more of the twenty twenty five Minnesota
Vikings identity or lack thereof, will be revealed tomorrow evening
at seven fifteen with the Boom. And by the way,
there is a pregame football feast tomorrow night Buffalo Wild
Winging Savage five PM.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I think five o'clock.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Buffalo Wild Wing Savage Tomorrow Thursday, featuring Muss doing Vikings
football Sunday.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
I think he's me doing like hell horns and like
beer drinking games and.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Stuff, probably after he says, And now ladies and gentlemen
coming to the stage, Lolita and tanger Ay.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
All right, I'll talk to you tomorrow from Los Angeles.
He's mad.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Producer Eric north quistin, I'm Paul Allen. Have a wonderful,
wonderful day. The program is next nine to noon.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's Good News the Money, Leave Them Up Podcast, Today's
Paul Allen Show.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
We're listening back to previous show and interviews like going
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Speaker 2 (31:37):
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