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Speaker 1 (00:14):
It is a Christmas Eve football feast of Buffalo wild Wings, Roseville.
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It's a marketly larger crowd and I thought we would
have today and it's fantastic that you made Christmas Eve.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Nine to noon.
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I'm Paul Allen into the final hour, one of the
finest men you will meet and also one of the
great quarterbacks in the history of Golden Gophers football. Can
we get a witness and a racus round of applause
for mister Tanner Morgan, Ladies and gentlemen, Tanner Morgan at
the Wednesday football feast.
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What's up brother, Hey, thanks for having me on Christmas.
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Here, to see you mean great great people.
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Though now I've done feasts, I've done feasts for many years.
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I've never seen him at one.
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Tanner Tanner time shows up and here comes the Swamp family.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Man.
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No, that's good, great family and great to chat with you.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Great church too. Thanks for letting us speak at your
church recently. It's great to have you here.
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Man.
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I could say acquiescing you. It wasn't It wasn't really
a lot of arm twisting or anything to get you here.
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T Underscore More two your guy PJ. Flack head coach
with the Gopher six and oh in bowl games they
got they got this the eight ball day after Christmas
versus New Mexico in warm weather down Arizona Way. What
do you think of like them going to that bowl game?
And when you had an opportunity to go to bowl games,
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what was it like?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, I think bowl games now aren't the same as
they were when I got into college.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I think everybody could agree with that.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And you look at the amount of people sitting out
of games now I mean getting ready for the draft.
PJ does a great job of preparing and using those
extra practices building, you know, next year seem I think
they had a young roster this year, especially upfront that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
A guy like Nathan Roy who had to get thrown.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Into the fire because Philip Daniels tackle leaves go to
Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
They paid him a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Of money and there's a reason he's continuing to play.
And you're gonna play Miami in college football playoff. But
PJ does a great job of preparation for bowl games.
I don't think this will be any different. I know
they love going out to Arizona. The guys were out
on going on horseback rides. I think I saw that
on X today. But I think it's a good chance
for continued development for Drake Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And then who knows what receivers.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
End up, you know, stepping up today with some of
the guys entering the portal, and then that'll be a
big thing I'm looking for of who they get on
January second through eighteenth. What receivers come on visits to
go play with number three Drake Lindsay.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yeah, we had a few teams pulling out of bowl
games because they weren't part of the playoff mix this year.
There were also some coaching changes, specifically with Kansas State.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But is it truly an honor?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I mean, going back to your playing days, it's an exhibition.
Some of you know, gosh, they're not going for the
national title this year, but they're gonna get this bowl
game opportunity.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It is an exhibition.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
But overall, whether it's just in your own heads or
again with that prep by PJ, like, do you feel
the honor of being invited and getting this extra opportunity
to showcase?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I think it's a chance to play again with the
same guys.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Right, It's an opportunity to go compete against a team
you may not have got a chance to play against.
You know, big ten sec right, I think of the
Reliquis Bowl used to be the Outback Bowl. You've got
Vandy plain Iowa. That's gonna be a great game. Yeah, hey,
Diego Pavia.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Felt like he was snub from winning the Heisman. We
all know that. Just there.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
They felt like they were snub from getting to the Plaoff.
But they're gonna go play a really good Iowa team.
That's gonna be a great game on December thirty first
at eleven am, and I can't wait to watch that one.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
But some of these other ballgames, you get it.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean coaches, I mean have a very tough job
right now because they're preparing for a bowl game, but
they also have to look at January second to the
eighteen because the transfer portal happens one time. That's basically
free agency in the NFL. That is the number one
thing that they're looking at. Oh and by the way,
some of these coaches in college football playoffs have taken
head coaching jobs elsewhere. You said Kansas State Colin Kline
was the offensive coordinator at Texas A and M. You
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don't think he's worried about who's going to get in
the portal when he's going to Kansastate, who he's bringing
with him. That's to me, where the whole calendar and
that issue needs to be addressed.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
It's crazy too, because you know it's the transfer portal,
but you're doing evaluation, you're talking to agents, you're negotiating deals,
you're trying to repair, You're trying to assess if we
don't get this guy.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Like who do we recruit out of the portal.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
It's mind boggling to imagine what that life would be
like in the amount of hours you'd probably have to
allocate to do it well absurd in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, Well, in the NFL, you know it very well.
You know whose contract is up. In college football, everybody
is a free agent because they can get out of
that contract.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
At any point they want.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Now there's there's teams kind of fighting that right now.
You know when Nico I'm a leave A left left Tennessee,
i am a leaving there were some issues there, right,
but he's staying out. Use c LA for another year
with Bob Jessny come over from James Madison. But the
front offices are something that you've you've seen these top
teams continue to develop because that is where uh, you know,
player attention and then who they're going to bring in
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next year is of extreme importance because you have to
have a list, you have to value, you have to
be working the phones behind the scenes with those agents
of what guy might leave, what's it going to take
to get them? How are we going to build our
roster because in the NFL, you know, I might need
a guard, uh in two years in college football. You
might know you need a guard on January second, on
January fourth, you've got to go get one right.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, And you know, just does it feel like from
your experience at least that generally coaches would agree with
that sentiment that the calendar needs to change. And I
think about Lane Kiffin, huge name of course, Uh. He
goes to LSU probably to get a head start on
the exact things you're talking about, and there's a lot
of you know, negativity around how that was all handled.
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You think Lane doesn't want a chance to go hoist
to trophy with Ole miss that he built before.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
And then go to LSU.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
But there's the feeling that he has to h to
play through and be ready to go with the Tigers
year one minute one. That's got to be a very
frustrating thing for coaches in some ways, maybe feeling powerless
or helpless to impact that calendar.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Absolutely. I think many coaches have talked about it. Drink
Wits at Missouri.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Mario Christoval, he's the guy who kind of took it
straight on and his press conference said, yeah, it's not great,
but we asked these players to be excellent every day.
We need to go do that and have that same approach.
There definitely has to be a change, but there's a
lot of things that have to be changed. You mentioned
bowl game, We talked about Minnesota, you know, six and
non bol games. Peach has done a great job, but
that's something that's definitely on the topic of agenda of
how do we fix this. Some guys we talked about
putting bowl games week zero, but they don't have the
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same teams playing.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Maybe it effects next year.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
There's all these theories, all these you know, things that
we can talk about in address, but who knows where
it's going to go. But we do know is college
football viewership is at an all time high ever been higher.
People love the game, but things for long term systemic
health have got to change. And you know, I think
it's interesting because we're talking about college football playoffs. These
student athletes, right, You've got guys that are playing in
the playoffs that may not be in the same team
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next year. And if they're in the national championship. Maybe
you're a depth guy. Let's say Oregon makes the goes
the distance. You're a depth guy, but you're gonna hit
the portal and go to a G five because you
want to go play, well, you're gonna have to leave
in the middle of the national championship. We saw that
last year of Penn State. They were playing their backup quarterback,
Bou Priby. Obviously, there's been a ton of stuff at
Penn State. He leaves to go to Missouri. Now he's
in the portal a game. So it's craziness and I
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think there's got to be some change. But what we
know is college football is great and people are watching it.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
To segue a little bit, you mentioned Drake Lindsay, what
did you like about what you've or what have you
liked about what you've seen from him at the college level,
Because I joke about with friends here locally, like I
love watching him play. There are times where the arm
town ball, his ability to get the ball up and
down is really impressive. Was under center a ton this year,
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which was kind of interesting. So I just would be
you know, I love to get your perspective on what
you saw, what you liked.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, I think first and foremost you see his arm strength.
When you watch the first game, his first completion is
a five step hits the back foot rhythm and timing
sideline out to Koy Parritch, who's you know, was doing
small offense, playing more on defense.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Now who knows what that'll look like In the bowl game.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
You see the ability to not only throw the fastball,
which people talk about a lot, but.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
He has the curveball.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
You know, he has the ability to anticipate in shape
throws with a big time arm. To me, it's fascinating
that he got out of the state of Arkansas as
a quarterback. I mean, it makes no sense to me.
Like when you watch him throw it, that's what it
looks like. But the game is cyclical, right, the big
style quarterback is becoming is back to kind of what
it was maybe in early two thousands, right, And I
think Drake fits that model. But what I love seeing
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him as the season went on, his command and ownership,
with his leadership ability he always had it. We saw
him getting on receivers, getting on offense line and getting
on the team and really taking the team over as
a young quarterback making that switch.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Well and what it really impressed me too. And you
played for PJ. You know PJ as well as anybody.
This is a guy that loves to dominate time of possession.
He loves to dominate on the ground. And I've just
been impressed by in some ways kind of whether it's Harbow,
it's PJ. Just that offensive conglomerate mind having to adjust
love Darius Taylor having trouble staying on the field, trying
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to find their way on the ground, and you have
Drake Lindsay orchestrating game winning drives, shootouts like in the
Rutgers game, et cetera. And you're putting up forty to
fifty yards in the ground. You just can't move men
on the ground. But this young cat on the fly again,
trying to evolve him but get this offense scoring points.
The ability to do that within the frame of the
season with the young QB really impressive to me.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
One hundred percent same mentality, right, They're just using the
quick game as a different way to get to the
edge with instead of you know, hitting those outside run
those tosses, all the different stuff. I think running the
football will always be of utmost importance at Minnesota and
in the Big Ten. You know, Oregon does it very well,
and they can throw the ball extremely well. But I
think it's a testament to Harbo and Fleck understanding that
we don't need to run the ball forty one forty two.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Times a game.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
When we had Mohammed Ibraham, we can use you know,
this quarterback's ability to hit, you know, go and condense
split It looks a lot like you're watching the Minnesota
Vikings or the San Francisco forty nine ers at times
in Harbo, I think is one of the most underrated
coordinators in all of college football, specifically the Big Ten.
And I would love to see what happens if they
get some more cats out wide with Drake, Lindsay and
Harbor and what they can do in year two within
being the starter.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Why do you think he's underrated?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I think the way that he uses if you watch
what he does, I think he could go be a
coach in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That's my opinion. The way that he coaches the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The last two quarterbacks he had, let's not forget one,
Max bros Is making a start tomorrow. Yeah, okay, undrafted
free agent quarterback. Now he had him at the end
of his career. But being able to really mold his
entire offense around Max and doing what Max could do
could be one of the reasons why Max was able
to step into the Minnesota Vikings offense so well because
he had history in a West Coast style of offense, right,
a little bit different. You look at Drake Lindsey maximizing potential,
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what he's done. They run a lot of the same concepts.
The way they get to him is different. I think
he's one of the one of the best play callers
in that sense of using you know what he's got
to his you know, his talent to the best visibility,
but understanding like he comes from an RPO tree, a
little bit of a West Coast tree, but his offense
has totally changed and it's evolved and he's continuing to
get better and I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
This may be an unanswerable question, all right, Danner Morgan
one of the great Gopher quarterbacks in the history of
a history of the program. He's with us at the
Christmas Eve Feast Buffalo Wild Wings Roseville. You mentioned Max
Brosmer and Alex Will remember when Kevin O'Connell said this,
and it's it's easy on the surface to understand when
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he says, after Brosmer start against Seattle, well with McCarthy,
you know when he started in the in the regular
season it might have been a beat or two too slow.
He was seeing things a little too slowly. Picked it up.
Now he's starting to look like he belongs Brosmer. In
his first three possessions, he was progressing too quickly where
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he was like looking so quickly and he needed to
actually slow down and wait, Like, how do you differentiate
or how do you work with players to either the
the the getting them to speed up a little bit,
that's a Joel getting them to slow down stuff like that.
That's not necessarily a Joel from a quarterback standpoint, you
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know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, it's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
We were talking about this with Deelick and I kind
of offset a little bit earlier. Max is such a
good processor, which Drake has some of those same qualities
that sometimes you're gonna you're gonna know something's not open,
that you're gonna get to number two in the progression
too quickly and not give a chance to actually get open.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And I think when you have the adrenaline of your
first start.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Oh and by the way, you're in Seattle, one of
the best NFL stadiums and all of the oh and
by the way, one of the best defenses in the
Country and by the way, one of the best overall teams.
Oh a in the quarterback on that team, Yeah, Viking,
all the things that add up into it. That kind
of gets your adrenaline pump and even more too. But
Max is such a great progressor you can see it
and you can process so quickly. It even goes back
to his first days on Minnesota. You know, coach PJ.
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Fleck and Harbor, we're like, this guy can process the
field so quickly. We have got to do more and
get guys more in the progression alec. I'm sure you
get talk about it what you've seen even in camp,
you know, with his ability to do that.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Yeah, I mean, I I don't want to go too
crazy here, but there were days during training camp where
you're watching the three quarterbacks and at the time it
was JJ, Sam Howell and Max Brosmer.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
And this might get aggregated and I'll get crucified.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
For it, but there were days where you're like, this
guy looks as efficient throwing the football and making decisions
or more efficient than the other quarterbacks out on the
practice field.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
That's just how it looked.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
What is interesting with kind of what you said is
I remember I talked to coach Hardball in the summer
about Max, and he's like, early on when Max got
here from New Hampshire, he thought he had to play
so fast to acclimate to the speed of Division one football,
and he realized, like, you're playing fast enough, just slow
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down and you're seeing it well enough to process and
play well. And I feel like the NFL Max transition
has been kind of similar, where it's like he expects
things to be so fast because it's the NFL, but
then he realizes, like, I can play enough and it's
not that big of a jump. So I will be
very interested to see how it looks tomorrow at home.
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I'm not gonna build Max up to you know, people
know what you mean. People will joke with me. But like,
if he goes out tomorrow and performs against his lines
defense and looks the part, I'm not gonna be surprised
at all.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But Tanner knows better than anybody. When you have the
entire week to get ready for the Seattle game and
you're going against McDonald, who never ever ever loses to
first year quarterbacks, first or second year quarterbacks, that's just
his thing. And then in the Giants game, I mean
Brozemer was ready to go, period, but you know he's
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not spending the whole week working with the ones. Then
he comes in out of the bullpen and plays the
best he's played at the NFL level. Now we're back
to it's you, so you get all the reps, but
it's a shorter week. I mean, he's just seen almost
everything in in this this part of his rookie rookie year.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, you talked about in college.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Right, first game as a Gopher was against North Carolina, overprocessed,
tried to like you had to do too many things
on the other side, you know, like there's just so
many things going on. And then week three, totally different quarterback.
Kind of seeing the same thing here, right week one
against Seattle or his first start against Seattle, kind of
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some of that overprocessing maybe who knows the whole details,
goes again, goes again against the Giants. Tyler Neuban has
a huge sack, right, former Gopher, Great Gophers all over
over before he got hurt. Yeah, and then he just
comes in third and seventeen. What a play, right, there's
a dot to Justin Jeffson on a sale right over
a flat defender shows the anticipation that he has now
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he's got the full week. Just I'm really excited to
see him step in with the full week of preparation
after he's had the experience of doing that in the NFL,
because that's totally different.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
The other thing for me is like the experience in
getting the experience after that debut was not guaranteed.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
So you almost wonder if.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Like what if he doesn't get to play in the
second half against the Giants and again tomorrow, We'll see
how it goes. But if it goes well, like what
if he doesn't get that opportunity, then he hasked to
sit maybe for for for months, for years before getting
to test that experience out again. It's just kind of
a weird, interesting sliding doors thing, probably for his own career.
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And I know, I mean there's a lot of Max
Broseberg talk, but I find him an interesting player because mentally, cognitively,
I do think he has some special traits.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
How well do you know Max how well? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I know Max pretty well, great dude, Yeah, And he's
an awesome guy to be here. And I think he
has one of those qualities as a quarterback that people
just flock to him, and I think some of the
best quarterbacks probably in the history of football have that
ability in that trade.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Went from because I know you watch all the Vikings
games with McCarthy from when he debuted to when we
last saw him into the first half of the Giants
game before the Burns hit. Uh what what did you
notice with him that slowed down and from a footwork standpoint,
this aggressive leg whip that everybody talks about. Yeah, I mean,
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just like it's an unbelievable amount of coaching this young
man faces.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
What have you seen?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Well, I mean, yeah, we could talk about the top
of the drop and all that stuff, but let's not
forget that he has Josh mccawan who's played a long
time in the NFL, probably going to be a head coach.
I mean, this is the guy who got almost got
a head coaching job with the zero coaching experience for
the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Like that was very legit. That was real.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
That wasn't like they're just interviewing him to check it off.
He actually had those interviews and so a guy who's
been around, that's definitely very helpful.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
He had did a great job with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I think when you can understand the offense a little
bit more and you get the experience, it allows your talent.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
To actually show.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
When you're trying to overprocess things you don't have the
chance to maybe over maybe you're overthinking, your talent doesn't
show up. I think JJ McCarthy has great talent, great traits.
That's why he was drafted in the first round. Well's
part of the reason he won a national championship, even
though Michigan did maybe cheat, who.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Knows, but I think you got you got to see
ten terrorism there.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I think you got to see that kind of against
Washington and last week as well, his talent kind of
on display.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You know, his back leg. We can get into a
whole quarterback debate there on. There's a million ways it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Catchup QB Motion Midwest.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah, And I wanted to actually ask you that because
as an outsider over the course of the season, and
you've you've heard it, You've you've ingested I'm sure a
fair amount of it from the well the processing, there's
the mental side. Are the lights too bright at this moment?
And then you know, is the headset too busy? Those
sorts of things, and and every YouTuber with the All
twenty two access now is talking about the leg whip.
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We're talking about where the hip is on the release, Well,
the shoulders need to the front shoulder needs to be
up a little bit. I mean, just as a guy
that has played this position at a high level in
the end, what was more important your ability between the
ears or how you actually executed that?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, what's both.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
The reality is you have to have full conviction behind
the play call as a quarterback, and you have to
have a full convey behind the way that you're throwing
the football. It's just like a golfer when I walk
up to the t box. If I'm like, oh maybe
I should go like out to in on this one
or stagger my stance, probably gonna go ob probably not
going to hit a good ball. As a quarterback, you
have to have the same thing. There's by the way
to golf and me too.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
You know, get invited to these golf courses and I'm,
you know, not not hitting it so well. But I
think from a mechanics standpoint, you have to have a
full one hundred percent belief.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
In why you're doing what you're doing. Back leg whip
over rotation.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Right, if you stop your torso and you decelerate a
little bit better, the ball should accelerate better. I think
you look at Max Brosmer, He's always very stable at
the end of a throw. I think a good stable
base at the end of the throw can lead to
a lot of accuracy. But that's not the case. You
have to have a full conviction behind the way that
you throw the football. That's something that we talked to
quarterbacks when I'm at qube motion all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
But really there's a million ways.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
At the end of the day, you can overthink it
and over coach it and become a robot if you,
as the quarterback allow yourself to do that. A lot
of these things mechanical wise, you can get better in
the season, but you have to have a full commitment
in the offseason so that when you show up to
TAS or you show up to bring, you show up
to training camp, those issues aren't the same.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That's the way I think about it.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
What have you thought? I mean, just like observing.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
I'm sure you've heard the amount of conversation about the mechanics,
like just hearing it singing in season, What like did
you think of it of hearing all that and seeing.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
All of it in real time, did I mean, you know,
it's a Twitter topic for every quarterback coach in the
country to talk about.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
My thing I believe is, you know, when you look
at his back leg, I think he does have some
over rotation problems because his back leg swings through this
torso his shoulder instead of.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Stopping at the target is always over rotating.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
But at the like, the reality is, you can do that,
and he has the talent to get away with it, right.
He could get away with it at Michigan all the time.
Now you're in the NFL, and maybe you can't get
away with it all the time on Sundays when you're
playing one versus one and all those things. Those are
things that he can fix. And really there's different ways
to approach it.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I know for a fact Josh has definitely, you know,
been looking at the mechanics and has one of the
best guys to do that with him. And I have
confidence that they'll get the right things figured out because
he has the right people in his corner.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I hear a lot of that and and and I
subscribe to it. I mean, because I'm an outsider. But
it also makes me wonder, how did Philip Rivers ever
get into the league from North Carolina State?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
What was the clip we saw of him?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Okay, first of all, forty five year old, why I
playing last night against seveners.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, when he went on the on the seven step
drop and fell, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well that happens. We can blame the logo for that though.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
It was the logo Yeah passer, Yeah, still wearing the
you know, two thousand turf shoes like he's.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Playing in arenafol.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
But dude, he uh like he's a three quarters motion everything.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
But the guy is a savant mentally. That's why he's
at forty five able to go in and do what
he's doing. Because you watch the clip that went viral
on I think the NFL posted it where he's motioning
a guy, uh, they're going across motion.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He changed the entire play.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
He tells him what to do, complete and total command
at the line of scrimmage, which in that day was
the total norm. Still happens, but now you have more
your progression. All this stuffing into a different conversation. But
that was Philip Rivers, same thing that we saw of
the recent clip of Aaron Rodgers telling the back changes
the route three times, right, which is a little bit
of Big Ben when Big Ben hat Matt Canada and
the Pittsburgh Steelers and that worked.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Right, That's kind of that regime of quarterback, which is
why they were so successful.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
So they knew exactly where they were going with the
ball and why, and when you have a full conviction.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
There's a lot of different ways to hit a golf ball,
there's a lot of different ways to throw football. When
you're very confident what you're doing, it allows you to
have the best chance.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
To be successful.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I'm glad you mentioned that that at the line because
you could hear it on the TV for a movie
during the game, and it's something that was I used
to have. Like you said, it used to be so normal,
specifically with the high enders, but more normal than it
is now. You don't hear that a ton anymore. And
you got calls and you got trickery, we got motions,
we got bits. But hearing him was kind of a
throwback the other night where he is truly just playing
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chess by himself out there and specifically finding Alec Pierce
some of those big third downs.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It was an absolute throwback. It was awesome. It's props
to ESPN. ESPN recognized this is different. Different's hard to
find this oversaturated day and age. They potted up their
parabolic mics and there was a din of the crowd
that was naturally quiet because they're on offense at home
against the Niners, and they noticed Producer, guy, director whomever
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noticed this is different and we're gonna pot it up
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It was like a react. It was reality TV. It
was like a movie.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
It was absurd because he's like flipper thump and then
all of a sudden, it's like a corner route, wide
open like he was playing Madden, just hot routing all over.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Like.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
The origin of that was Cam Newton with Clay Matthews
many years ago, where you know they're down by the
goal line and he like, ha, I saw that on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Touchdown and Clay smiled because Cam was right. So, I mean,
that's part of the game. But when it's as polarizing
as it was Monday with Philip Rivers, that was beautiful.
Stick around for a second, right Tanner Morgan Tanner Morgan
at a t underscore. More uh, he's part of a
quarterback motion Midwest. Also former Gophers quarterback elite college and
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pro football. Mind, great conversation taking place here on Christmas
Eve and the Wednesday football feast from Buffalo, Wild Wings
Roseville into the penultimate next so Tanner for somebody like
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me who doesn't follow college football super closely. But then
the college football playoffs on Furrol, I'm watching that low
scory Miami game. Yep, God bless you guys, Merry Christmas,
good seeing you, and go Broncos.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So so I'll follow.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
It more closely now, Yeah, Indiana, I you It's like
before I was apprized of the Mark Cuban nil influence,
you know, I was kind of like, wow, Golden Gophers,
these smaller markets would be the wrong way to put it. Minneapolis,
Saint Paul, much bigger than Bloomington. Secondary type programs, you know,
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just don't take that as an insult. Not Alabama, not Clemson,
not Georgia, not.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
That kind of stuging.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, So therefore it's like, hey, look look what they're doing. Well,
then I learned about Mark Cuban and the NIO money
that all of a sudden is coming in.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
So I'm gonna ask you this question.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It could I you do what it's doing now with
Signetti the coach, but not Mark Cuban or would it
need Cuban and not Signetti to achieve to this level?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Great question. No, you have to have the money.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
You have to have the resources to be able to
turn around IU historic approach a Vaderbilt very same way.
I think when you look at those two programs, what
they did very well in the portal. They had the resources,
but it's not like they had the same money that
you know Georgia has or Out or Notre Dame, you
know all these different programs.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What they did a great job in the portal is
they valued production.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You look at what they had with Curtis Rooky when
he came in produced at a great level at Ohio
over a long period of time.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Bernanda Mendoza had production. You knew what you were gonna get.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
And now you give him great coaching, great players around him,
and you go and do it.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
And by the way, the.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Number one receiver elijahs We're at three time transfers out
of a FCS program, then James Madison and now at Indiana.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So they really value production.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Not no relation to Chaz Surat, I don't believe. I
don't know. It's the first thing I thought of when
he said it and I googled it. It was the
first thing I thought of.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
With that said, to that end, it kind of speaks
to the fact that, okay, like Big ten school or
SEC school, that not all schools are created equally in
terms of and it's not just outside financial resources either.
He mentions Mark Cuban, which is clear that that's there's
a lot of cash infusion, but even just the schools themselves,
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not all are created equally in terms of we're making
athletics a priority, winning athletics programs potentially a marketing asset
in its own right to gain students.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Some are we are education focused.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
What we can do with what's left of the pie
after everything else is covered, that's athletics. Not all schools
are created equally, even inside the buildings either.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I think now it's a different day and age with
revenue sharing coming in, right, you're gonna have twenty plus
million dollars if you're a Big ten or SEC school
to give to your entire athletic department for players only.
But I think secondarily, that's why a guy like James
Franklin goes to Virginia Tech because he's playing in the
ACC And oh, by the way, that they've pledged two
hundred million dollars in the athletic department overall, that's why
it's an interesting job.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Wow, Quarterback Motion Midwest. You can learn more about this
at T Underscore more two at T Underscore morg two.
You Tanner's now been part of this for a couple
of years at least branches all over the country.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And if somebody here listening or here at Buffalo Wild
Wings Roseville has a Billy or Johnny or whomever that
wants to ascend as a quarterback, what can you do
for them?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
What kind of advice could you give? Them?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Absolutely, I think you're in charge of your own development
from the quarterback position now more than ever, whether you're
in the NFL or you're in youth football. So what
we do at QB Emotions we're trying to build the
total quarterback mentally and with revolutionary mechanics. We're talking about
mechanic talk here, so just looking at rotary mechanics, but
then also allowing guys to play for You can check
us out on our website, Keepemotion miidwest dot com. We
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can do mental stuff, but we have a lot of
group sessions going on around the Twin Cities in the Midwest,
but also one on one virtually. And then I'll also
say College Football Talk just started a new thing with
Quinn Carroll called the Honorable Mentions Podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Hear more college football Talk. I got that going on too?
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Right on is the way that quarterback mechanics are are
the way that mechanics taught today different than when you
were first learning how to throw.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So different, really wildly, wildly different and in what ways? Okay,
First of all, everything was always long to short, So
it was how can I reach to the target, get
as close to the target as I can, much like
a pitcher. Now it's more, how can I play from
a phone booth? How can I use my lower body,
my rotation as a rotational athlete to drive a ball
forward in different ways? And oh, by the way, quarterbacks
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have never been probably more athletic overall than they have been.
Doesn't mean you don't have a guy like fran Tarkin
turn or Dante Colpepper who were freaks. Randall Cunningham. That's
not what I'm trying to say an Inner Lives statement.
But quarterback mechanics in the past fifteen years are night
and day different, and you look at it across the board,
everybody's doing it. Jimmy Garoppolo one of the first guys.
Brock Purdy, the way he throws the ball totally totally
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different than guys ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oregon, Texas Tech in the Orange Bowl? Who wins and
Why I'm gonna take the Ducks.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I really love what will Stein does offensively, very multiple.
I love their tight end, love their tight end.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Sadik the Freak. He'd look great in Purple.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Ole, Miss Georgia Sugar Bowl. Who wins and Why.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I'm gonna go Georgia.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I think Almost did a great job with a new
head coach week one. But I think Georgia has the
dogs and Kirby Smart is a guy who doesn't let
complacencies sneak in, and they're going to control the game
on the ground.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The Canes and the Buck guys in the Cotton Bowl.
Who wins and Why's go?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Oh Baby Julian Sam bounce back game from the Big Ten.
I'll take the Buck guys.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Alabama and I you and the rose ball who wins
and why.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
This is a good one's favorite team. I'll be honest
with you. I could go either way.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Really, I like both. Kaylin de bor A is a
phenomenal coach.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
His roots out in Sioux Falls coaching at usf WO
when they were an anai A school. I'm gonna go with
the tie with a major upset against him. Really that
Alabama OU game what I went on the fourth quarter
from Tody Simpson. I think Tye is taking the team
on his back and he's gonna go and get it done.
That is a very hot take because Indiana is a
fig football team.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I am a huge Ty Simpson.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I cannot believe it's a scorching take, but nor do
and I need to google ty Simpson before we can
valid said.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I'm gonna have a lot of texts like you're stupid.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I cannot believe guy as an Alabama fan. Yeah, I
just can't believe you.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Just did that.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
I don't think that's gonna happen. Indiana is gonna win.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
The You're you're a fraud for not going to again,
don it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I'm not a fraud. They you are.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's your favorite team all time of every team ever.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
The team PA.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
They've been in the championship, like been the million times
for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
I don't at this point. You just watched it. You
know they're gonna be there. You have the little pennants
in your bedroom. Still, No, I do not.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's not my favorite one.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
It's not my favorite team.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I watched the.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Minnesota Wild on a nightly bay bolding. Lastly, correct me
if I'm wrong here. I think you played a year
with Blake Cashman. I did, okay, two years.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I mean human nature gets to win two at this
time of the year when you're not going to the playoffs. Man,
not with him, I mean he I don't know. It's
there could be bonuses for which he's playing. I don't care.
He is a wrecking machine every single game. Man, And
he was good with the Gophers. Obviously this is a
different level. How about Blake Cashman.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Blake Ashman really cool to see him fifth round pick.
What he's become in his journey.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Let's not forget he was a walk on out Eton
Prairie High School.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Gophers walked on at.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
The year only because he's not super tall right, it
didn't fit the boxes right. He's a guy who I
did him in and made the most out of every opportunity,
mastered special teams and then eventually when he got a
chance in the league to be every down player in
the box. And you know, he's done a phenomenal job.
And it's really cool to see Blake and what he's
done in his career.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
The other thing with him is he had so many
injuries early in his career in New York and Houston,
and so to get the opportunity and out to play
down to down and be on the field for him,
it's got to be incredible.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
It's got to be a great feeling. And he's earning
that contract that they gave him.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Tanner, You're fantastic. Merry Christmas, God bless you and your family.
Thanks for the time. Thank you guys, Marry Christmas, Enter Morgan,
Ladies and Gentlemen, Fire and Bullets nine to noon, final
segment after this.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Cute cute until tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Thank you for joining us a Buffalo Wild Wings, Roseville.
Thank you for listening to the Christmas Eve Feast. Nick
Madden Street Team. Great work during not only today, but
the course of the twenty twenty five feet season. Likewise,
for Jared Wells, the engineer, it's been a cavalcade of
producers back at f M one hundred point three KFA
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N Devin Ward, Sam Byrd, Brett, Blake Moore. They've all
done great work during the course of the year and
we greatly appreciate your contributions. The Vikings play tomorrow on
Christmas Day. Christmas Day Football tomorrow, three point thirty Vikings
and Lions.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Final thoughts, gentlemen.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah, for me again, I'm just I'm excited that Max Brosmer,
disappointed that JJ McCarthy's not playing, Excited for the opportunity
in front of Max Brosmer. I want to see him
throw a touchdown, not an interception. I want to see
Justin Jefferson part of the mix. And we are getting
into the getting out alive part of the season sadly,
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but on Christmas Day, come out with a win and
end the kiddies playoff chances.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
That'd be terrific.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward to see if Max
just how efficient he looks, And for me, this game
will come down you to you know, can you stop
the run? Tamir Gibbs obviously is a problem. Will the
cross dog blitz his work again? Can you get to
Jared Goff in the interior, force him a little bit
out of the pocket, And then offensively, can you move
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the football productively up the field via the quick game.
That'll be uh, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
But make it's seven without a touchdown passal out.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
It wouldn't be some fall task.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Defense.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
This defense has been defense has been exceptional. You didn't
say anything about my coat, by the way, it was
a terrific coat.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
I mean, nobody said anything.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It was awesome. I said, why did you take it
off so quickly?
Speaker 7 (35:11):
You know I was getting warm in here. It's Roseville
Buffalo loudly.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Detroit Lions have at least one touchdown pass twenty one
consecutive games. The Vikings haven't given up one six consecutive.
Be curious to see how that works out tomorrow. That's
what I'll next chat with you on f M one
hundred point three kfa N for the boom. Hey, God,
bless all of you. Very great Christmas. God bless you,
Thank you, Bye bye.