October 3, 2025 • 45 mins
The Friday Football Feast begins with Nordo and Chad Greenway talking about how important it is for the Vikings to get off to a hot start vs the Browns. Then we air a conversation that PA had with Mark Wilf.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
That thing. Aaron Ladder won his first.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Year for Coal, has thrown seven touchdowns and three picks
Hey back to pass Hey back by Challan Redman right
out of the game. Back at the twenty two one
play and Town goes quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Immortality was getting we des be thought a Jay.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Carson is five o'pive forty four yards back to Pat
Polly and his back Patrick Queen. Patrick Queen came in
like royalty and missed Dark quarterback and drove him.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Back lit Mike Hearts heading in for a field goal.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Dry Man.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
The jing props that I left behind.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Aaron Rodgers second and goal from the one final move
in motion.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
To left hand off game coast, all up by Deny.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's in the NFL touchdown it's burn Tailors.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Jost Woman Chelvin had a shot at him and he of.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The hats the mat.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
He did this game well in full NSDA and the
Pittsburgh Steelers are kicking a six to three lead.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You stick to st.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Aaron Rodgers first and ten from his own twenty He's
eight of eight for sixty five yards back to pass
asked Paul over the middle, dk Metcalf bought it on
the run. He's of the forty fifty nineteen forty to
the thirty inside the twenty touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers and eighty
yard touchdown from Aaron Rodgers to DK Metcalf and the
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Pittsburgh Staelers and their fans have these terrible towels waving
all over four Park.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Why they have a thirteen three lead.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Burden sixteen trailing by a pass over the metal tiptoff
TJ Watt tipped it to an south and TG Watt
has picked off Carson Wentz. We're taken down in the
thirty four yard line. That is the eight interception of TJ.
Watts career. And the Pittsburgh Steelers have turned over the
Minnesota Vikings four and seventeen from the thirty two of Minnesota,
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trampling Koree the either team with any time out, fourteen
seconds to go, snap from Jurgens to Wins, great rock
fires over the middle and it's incomplete. Gordon Addison the
intended target, and the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to get
the Minnesota Vikings their first lags outside of the United
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States of America.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Twenty four to twenty one will be in the finals.
Four He's connected sixty five one carpets plus studio. It's
a Friday football fees. I mean based on those highlights
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that Devin was playing. Thank you for joining us to
kickoff nine to noon. Not a lot of positives to
take from Sunday's game in Dublin, Ireland. Looking to turn
that around with the Browns, Kegs and Eggs take two
Tottenham Stadium eight thirty am, kickoff here six thirty am.
Pregame here and hoping the Vikings could head into the
buy with a W and a winning record, maybe find
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some healthy bodies along the way. Nordo in for PA.
You will hear a couple of PA check ins throughout
the show today. He had the opportunity to chat with
team owner president Mark Wilf. You'll hear that actually later
this hour, and then wide receiver coach Keenan McCardell will
be in the mix. We have some suppressor audio from
Kevin O'Connell speaking to the media about a half hour
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forty ish minutes ago, and a lot to get to
in the TimberTech dot com timber Tech set list nine
to noon. But joining me now at Chad Greenway five
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Speaker 4 (05:14):
How you doing, man, I'm doing well. Yeah, I'm doing well.
You know, it's so disappointing. I think the way the
game just went in the approach and you'll get the
stats and kind of tell us part of the story.
I mean, this this week is big. I mean it's
it's a big, big week. I mean to be able
to get a dub on the road, finish one to
one in this trip, come back with the winning record,
and like you said, get some healthy bodies at the
end of the day, which is is you don't want
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to make an excuse for your for your team, but
the reality is is they've been they've been going through
it here this early part of the season, and to
be able to get through this week and get a dub,
get hopefully get a few bodies back, and then hopefully
you can catch your strike because you know, if we
look ahead for the schedule and getting it easier.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
No, it's not. We were I was talking with with
Pa and Ben Lieber yesterday and just kind of the
kind of the idea like the most important game in
Kevin O'Connell's life. Life is always just the next one, right,
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Welcome to football, man. It's just it's always next and
that's that's the best part about the loss.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
We have next week, Yeah, there's another one and frankly,
there's thirteen more of them in total, so lots of opportunities.
But with that said, would you be feeling the urgency
that I feel as a fan where it's like, okay,
things are negative one thousand percent, I don't know who
half the guys are on the offensive line and what
just happened against the Steelers. That's a setback health of
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the young QB. We're watching him while we're watching Carson
try to do his thing. And in the end, yes,
it's early season, early October, but with the way things
have gone, even at two and two, we feel in
some ways blessed to be there. There's extra urgency here,
like we can't lose to the freaking Browns.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You would feel that as a player, Yeah, you one
hundred percent feel that, And I think in some ways,
because you're overseas, you almost have a little bit of
a training Campbine because you're kind of all together, and
you be all together, you know, at night and during
the day, and you don't you're not going home and
not seeing the family a lot. For a lot of
the attractions might actually be less in some capacities when
you're traveling like this. Even though it's a you're a
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national I think it's a good chance for them to
come together and this is we are what we are.
We have who we have, and who's going to be healthy,
who's going to be able to play this week? You know,
the defensive side of the balls got their fair share
of stuff going on. So there's a there's a sense
of urgency in that building or in that room and
in the hotel right now where they got to get
something done and they know it. And I think you
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gotta come out and you're gonna play A brown seam
is going to absolutely fight you, and they need a
win too. And Stefanski's going to have those guys ready.
We know how good a football coach he is. And
regardless of the talent, you know, you have to go
get a win. Now you have a young quarterback coming
in to be the starter for the first time. We
can't let him get going. You want to see him,
give him a bunch of different looks, needing it after him,
make him make some mistakes. Uh, it's a huge week.
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And I think it's fair to say that this is
this is it's not it's not if win or else.
But look at the division. Look what we have in
front of us. This is a massive game, and we
take it. We got to take it that way. And listen,
these guys are pros. You show up righty to play,
and you show up and get yourself to get yourself
ready to play, and then go out.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There and play well.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
And if you don't, your best chance to is the
next week to come back and say, hey, we got
to write the ship. And you know, just look at
the staff, you look at the rushing yards given up,
look at the time possession. The fact we have to
throw the ball of forty five forty six times tells
you with out of story. Rogers threw a twenty twenty
two times, twenty three times. That tells you the story
of how the game went, very efficient and very efficient,
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getting first downs, big throws, gain well goes for what
one hundred I mean, just that kind of tells you
the story and again gain well in the two losses.
Is what has been the story, right, is our inability
to have a Williams wall that's been able to hold
up and you know, limit teams to rush yards.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Is there any part of that where because talking about
it through this week, I mean, you see what you
see on Sunday, the injuries. Would you have taken that
guy seriously sorry and so distracting?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
No, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Cam Newton on the big work. You pointed at him
because he's got the hat on, he's got the colored sunglasses.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
He's Davison County guy of South Dakota. He's got to
be out there now. Now you guys gave Cam Newton fits. Yeah,
but that's MVP caliber.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I mean one of the most difficult quarterbacks to bring
down one of this the I mean the great athletes
of the last twenty five where Cam Cammon league. I'm
just like, what is this?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
But the thing that could that Cam couldn't overcome is
the cold weather at TCF Bank Stadium now Hans Bank.
He came up here that day and he wanted no
part of any of that cold energy.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I'm trying to think was it feeling and was it
Everson that both had defensive tds that day as part
of the blowout, right exactly. I think that's the that's
the that's the genesis of Detroit Lakes go crazy. And
he blocked it. I think the Eland blocked it. Said score. Oh,
I mean, that's come on. So we do lots of
and high fives in the locker room after that. Uh
(09:50):
with we've talked about Rogers a ton. I mean, you
you saw him a ton during your playing career. Is
there any element where you look back at Sunday and
you're just thinking to yourself, Yeah, we got Rogers, I mean,
and so you like you can say roster top to bottom,
you feel like, and we saw the health situations that
played out during the game. We know they have DK,
we know they have TJ. Watt, et cetera. But just
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in the end, you're just you're walking away. You're like,
he did it to us again. Yeah, you know, he
just he knows where to go with the football when
he's playing well. And when he was when he was
flying high in Green Bay and had some good weapons
on the outside, they would run so many simple concepts
just to take what you are giving them. Yeah, and
he and when you have a quarterback that knows where
the football is supposed to go against that coverage because
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he knows who's got leverage and he knows who's going
to win. It's almost predetermined that he knows, and.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That's why the balls out of his hands so fast,
because he knows if you're sitting this type of his
own coverage and you have this responsibility within that coverage
because because of his intellect, he knows that route is
going to be open when he hits his third step. Okay,
you're in man coverage, all right, what kind of leverage
this guy playing? Okay, this is the route I have
against that leverage. I know he's going to be open
when he turned. So having that ability, and again you
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can think back to our young quarterback and even what
Carson's been able to do when he's come in at
least put up some numbers and obviously look good in parts,
and obviously the interception has hurt us. But the reality
is is when you know where to go with the
football because you know what the defense is going to
give you, you just you just take it and let
your players make place. And that's exactly what happened in
this situation this weekend, and he you know, you throw
the ball twenty plus times and you get a win
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on the road, a huge win. Mike Tomas got that
look in his eye, that the smile and smirk that
I don't like, especially when you're playing against him.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
But you know, he just they got it.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They got a little thing going right there last week
and and I think that was the offensive people thought
they could have.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We I just know why had it happened against us? Yeah,
back to before we got distracted. I mean, look at
Cam right now with the with the tie. It's a vibe.
I don't know what's I can't even describe it. See
people are people are down on it. I don't get it.
Cam had his ups and downs of his career and
then his arm just stopped working. I just kind of
love Cam Newton. I could never wear that. It looks ridiculous.
You know, he's consistent, He's and he doesn't shy away
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from he doesn't he leans into it. He's consistent. It's
not for me, but man does he does he own nothing?
I just want to know what he spends on clothes.
That's expensive. Good Lord, that pension's got to be good, though, right, yeah,
oh yeahs were really good and he made a couple
of bucks first overall, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Where I was going though before we got distracted by
Cam Newton is when you see a loss like you
saw and the health situation, I mean just kind of balancing. Okay,
the talker is it's and it always goes this way. Well,
the GM and his horrible drafting and put us in
a spot so so that was so so trying to
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take that which is and as I've said, like the
listeners are going to focus on a lot of that
and I'm in on it. I'm in on it. It's
a valid talker where when you when you go to
the well and free agency. And I think he deserves
a ton of praise given some of the guys that
he picked up for the value that he picked him
up on. You know, one guy in particular who's off
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to it feels like a historic star would be Isaiah Rodgers.
Like nobody's shying away from from how important he's been
to this defense so far. But you mentioned not having
that Williams wall in those two losses, the idea of okay,
you know, we can spend all week ripping the GM,
or we can also say, well, this is what we have.
That's like a January conversation. Right now, we've got to
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figure out how to beat the Browns. Do you see
any in the advancement of pass rush through the middle
with Hargrave and Allen? Are you potentially giving up something
in terms of what a Bullard and a Harrison Phillips
provided in terms of the run stopping because then, as
you mentioned it, Kenneth freaking gainwell should not have he
was on the doorstep like ninety nine yards. I think yeah,
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and then bejon Is Bajon and if he's not getting
you on the ground, he's probably catching and running, etc.
Just an incredible player that he is, he has a
right to have a good game. But in the same sense,
there has been that kind of that focal point of
you know, again ripping the GM, but then also looking
pragmatically at the defensive front and it's like, we're really
pumped about this and they're healthy, they're healthy, But but
(14:10):
to that end, have we given up something to gain something?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I think you know, you know, factor in Van Ginkle, facturing,
cash Man, factoring these other things that are coming at
you right But listen, We're good enough to win both
the games we lost. It's not a it's not a
talent issue. So we can look in place blame because
that's what we do.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
There's the problem with the NFL is you have six
or seven days between games, so you got to fill
some air, right, You got to have something to talk about,
have them to complain about. We could be five, four
and oh right now when we find some of the
things that some issues that discussion. Why wouldn't we That's
just part of the game that makes the NFL so great.
It's year round. You're discussing all these things. Was the
roster looked like what's a GM? But the reality is
we're good enough talent wise to win both games.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Did we win them? The wins games you lost, did
we win them?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
We found ways to lose those games.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
The guys that are in those spots that knows at
three in the interior defense environment are good enough to
make those plays, but they're not making them. And the
reality is is we have to get to a spot
where those guys are No. Again, everybody does a little
something different, right. The guys we trade away and got
rid of would have certainly helped but what are we
taking away from a pass rush?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well, you know what does a room look like? You
can't count on what injuries you're gonna have. That's just
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
It's gonna it's gonna hit you us some way, somehow
every year, very rarely you're gonna get a super healthy season,
and it's it just hit us hard early. And the reality, though,
is it's still in front of us. Yeah, So the
ups and downs of the NFL season, the more you
can just stay the same, the more you can just
be the thermostat and just absolutely keep your temperature and say, hey,
we're gonna keep charging ahead. We have these ups and downs,
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we're gonna get healthier and we're gonna find a way
to get back on pace. And we got to get
a win this weekend, and we got to treat it accordingly.
And we gotta go out and start fast the team.
The games that we've that we've lost, we got behind.
We just we start slow, we can't finish drives, we're
not getting off the field. And the other games we
start fast, we make a play. So your first fifteen
as a coach offensively got to be sharp. You gotta
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know what you gotta know what you're gonna get. You
gotta have an answer to all those problems. And defensive
we got to come out. We can't make mistakes. And
for you know, I'm okay. I'm okay with a team
establishing the past game early, but I'm certainly okay with
this with the team established a run game early.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, because when you get the.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Run game going early and all of a sudden, you
have all sorts of issues to deal with.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I saw this. I saw this stat and I think
it's from Warren Sharp, not think I know it's from
Warren Sharp, and I'm trying to scramble to get it now. Well,
but I can paraphrase it because I think I have
it right. The New Orleans Saints are zero and four, okay,
new coach. I mean they're trotting Spencer Rattler out there.
I mean that thinks you know that's something down in
the Bayou. Best of luck to them, Actually, no, no,
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they go. I said that I hope they have a
winless season. No, no, that's correct. I apologize. I was
trying to offer a bit of grace to them, but no,
no thank you and no luck to the New Orleans Saints.
Fans were talking. They have not played one offensive snap
with the lead thus far in twenty and twenty five
fast starters down there the second worst two snaps the
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Cleveland brown Wow, we can't. They don't want us, They
can't start fast. This is and they grinded their way
to a victory with the with the big field goal
block and then the field goal by whatever his name
is that the Browns kicker, who is a disaster. Week one,
they could have beaten Burrow. They missed it. They're one
and three, two snaps all through four games in which
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they have had the advantage. If I see Judkins get
loose and suddenly they're up seven to nothing, he's done,
he does. I'm doing this appearance at Gray's Food Haul.
It's downtown, backside of Target Field on Sunday morning. I'm
gonna lose my freaking mind.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah yeah, it's an eight am bloody Mary. Probably tow
some great duck in there. Get yourself looped up and
going well, and that takes the edge off. I will
encourage it for others. I have to do fan line later,
hopefully a victorious one. It makes it makes fan line better. Yeah,
one or five wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, it makes fan.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Line better either way, the corn lose makes it better.
They can't start fast.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, if the Browns have a lead in this game,
that that is absolute red alert problem for our favorite
football And because of how Stefanski wants to play the.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Game one thousand percent. He wants to control the line
of scrimmage, he wants to run the football, he wants
to be able to run the clock, and he got
they have a creature on the other side that we
have to be mindful of that can absolutely wreck a
football game.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And I think we have to be mindful of that
as we drop back.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
We want to you know, Garrett, listen, we want to
we want to throw the ball under around twenty times.
It's been the it's been the sauce to winning the
first two two wins of the season. We want to
make sure we can control more of the game than
we've been controlling. The game has been controlled by the
team we've been playing almost in every game so far
this season, and even the throwaway game with Isaiah Rodgers.
Bit like, what's real from that? Because the reality is
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we got to too scoop and scorers. Yeah, I don't
know what's.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Real at this moment.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
You don't know what you take from that, to be
honest with you, because that's a game that's a little
bit of a you know, you just don't know. It's
it's it's almost the it's almost throw it out. But
reality is, we got to show up and get ready
to play. And and I think the maturity of this
football team would be tested this week. I think the
leadership of our football team would be tested this week.
I think we're going to know in the first quarter
of what this week looks like. No, I think you're right.
I don't mean to harp on the negative. So you
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remember DK Metcalf's touchdown. Yeah, and it's it's difficult you're
watching TV copy.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I don't think you. I mean, you certainly haven't been
in the film room this week watching God Mac. But
but there I'm just curious. So you have DK Metcalf
in the slot. Ron Johnson's telling me he runs a
bang eight or whatnot. But on that play, I see
two things happening where Harrison Smith's too late to come down.
I see Eric Wilson chasing and just kind of the
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thing that has popped in my head over the course
of this with all the health issues. Man, we miss Cashman. Like,
I just feel like, I don't know if there's a
position in the end, they just needed to tackle DK.
As difficult as that is. I'm asking you, guys, compensated
fairly high end athletes that you are, like, I need
you to tackle better in some spots, if I may
be as to ask, but I'm just like Cashman, I
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miss Blake and I'm excited. I know Philly is the
boogeyman around the bye week corner, but man, I need
Blake back. I need Van Ginkle back, you know. And
it's just I hate where we're We're sitting this early
in the season where everything is how do we evaluate
the QB, Well, I need X Y z O lineman
in there. How do I evaluate the defense, well I
need I need Van Ginkle and Cashman.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
You know, where this was stability. You lost stability. And
you know, I think you know, the best of the best.
The best ability in the NFL is availability and showing
up and being the guy.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
So Cashman's best ability last year was he was a
game changer, not only physically on the field, but a
guy that you could just count on. You know, He's
gonna be where he's supposed to be, to make the
player supposed to make, to make the tackle he's supposed
to make. You know, missed a few here there, of course,
like anybody. But the reality was players are going to
make plays in this league. Dk Metcalf is a creature.
Aaron Rodgers is going to be crazy. He's going to
throw the ball to the right spot. And guys, you're
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gonna make plays. It's the NFL. All these teams are good.
The Browns are capable of beating us. They have players
to do it. You have to show up and not
just roll the help out and say we're going to
get a win because on paper it looks like we're
better than them. So when dk Metcalf catches that ball,
that's great. It can't turn into a touchdown. Now it
has to be put on the ground and say, okay,
now go get the next fifty yards. It's easy for
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me to say, though, to put a I've missed a
lot of tackles.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Be the sacrificial lamb and can you can you run
in front of that semi truck real quick?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I don't want to, but I will. And the thing
is is like again, I missed a million tackles when
I played. But the reality is is like you just
try to find a way to get that guy on
the ground and live and live another down. So take
a better angle, get him down, run him out of bounce,
whatever it is. You're not too prideful to get dragged,
are you?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
No, I mean the freeze. One of the guys that
could drag yet. That guy that plays running back for
the Ravens from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh, Dereck Henry.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, maybe, Yeah, that guy I remember when he came
as a rookie my last year. He turned the corner
again with the Titans. That might have been the opening game,
one of the first couple of games I can look.
He turned the corner and I simply said, what the
h is that? You just didn't have anybody you've ever
seen before running downhill that you just want to run
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through your neck? And yeah, you get drugged for five
or six, you get up, you go play the next
play necessarily how it goes. He's well, first of all,
what was your playing way? Were you forty then? I
was probably two thirty thirty? Yeah, thirty three years old
is ready to getting either in the wheelchair?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
So he's and it was. It was the opening game.
You guys won that game. I think with Sean Hill.
Eric Hendricks had a pick and I think the Neil
maybe maybe you had a pick and Daniel had the
defensive the fumble rumble, yep, Shawn Hill. I think Darrin
Shan Hill. I'm pretty sure Derek Henry has fifteen pounds
of muscle on you and maybe an inch and just
(22:38):
better genetics. He's faster, better looking. I mean, he's still
stronger and I'm and he's playing running back. This isn't well,
that's that's my point though. It's it's not harping on
Chad Greenway. It's more it's uh, oh, no, get in line.
And there's several more like me, No but no.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
But but is it?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
How do you stop that? That that's insane? Like a
four to four guys at his zenith. I mean, he's
getting older now and such, but still he's paying somebody
a quarter million dollars to keep him in shape in
the offseason. He's running beating hills that he cut back
on me.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
The first time I saw him is he got his
shoulder square coming downhill and I was rocking back. So
I was a gap, kind of beat to backside and
then he cuts back. I have that backside scrape, so
I'm catching He's literally catching me on my heels, and
I mean, it was an awful situation. And you find
yourself in those and you just survive those, and you
simply go ankle grabbing, you go ankle bite, and you
just try to get your head across his thighs and
(23:28):
bring him down and try to live.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I mean, let me tell you this, though, you guys,
did you did? You did a pretty good job. Remember
DeMarco Murray? Oh yeah, but but he only had three
yards rushing that game. You may have had two entail.
You may have had to find him. He had two
catches for forty one yards in that game. I don't
want to be in front of that cat. Let's see.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Let's see what oh I did? I was That was
my first That was Eric Kendricks and Barr played Nickels.
So I didn't play many snaps that game because I
was third. That was kind of first second down. Guy,
I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Zero stats, I don't I don't think you registered to
tackle in particular game.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, no, that sounds about right. I think we played
very little based defense.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Okay, yeah, fumble recovery and the TD it was Kendricks
and Hunter. You got Sean Hill. How'd Sean Hill do
eighteen of thirty three? Okay? Very pedestrian eight yards on
the ground. Adrian, tough day for him. You grind it
out of victory at Nissan Stadium. Uh, speaking at twenty sixteen. Yep.
When you watch this and you just kind of doesn't
it kind of feel like that? So uh, Teddy goes down,
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it's awful for everybody. It was like August thirtieth to
thirty first. Yep. I remember Tuesday at the State Fair.
We're doing the NFC in great debate bit with with
Wobble Wobble, Lavelli, Neil the Third and Dave Sinecon. Everybody's
feeling good. Got the miskick behind us now like full
speed ahead. Adrian's gonna ro you did? I did have that.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
It was not out of my head yet. There's bit
or No that was not past that did did? Did
Walsh's lot? Like was Walsh's locker out in like the
tunnel or something like that? I mean, poor kid, No,
I know that's well Frankly, I just I hope everything's
good with him. He never really recovered from that. He's
in real estate now. He is a great, smart guy.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Sweet. I think he's on West Coast. Oh, good for him,
that's great, But the kick went the wrong way. Fresh
Life breathed into the squad. Twenty sixteen, Teddy goes down Bradford.
You flip the first to Howie Roseman for Bradford. Sean
Hill gets you the w as we talked about. Against
the Titans. You start out I think five and oher
into the by. He got Cheryls with the punt return
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against Houston. What was it primetime against Odell Beckham Junior
and the Giants and Xavier Roads fighting them and Odell
fighting like a kicking net or something. I mean, just
everything's good, great memory. You go into the bye. But
it was week two. It was the opener at us
Bank Stadium, and I still remember Trey Wayns gets the
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pick to seal the game. Zimmers, I mean Zimmer, I
mean at the combine would have been first or second
in vertical, but you lose Matt Khalil to the mcl
adrian as well as a matter of fact. But then
I and I just I had this pulled up the
other day. I'll run it through again. Andre Smith, Matt Khalil,
Rashad Hill, Jeremiah Searles, Jake Long rips his achilles at
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FedEx when you're trying to go and tie the game. TJ. Clemings,
Alex Boone, Brandon Fusco, your favorite, Willie Beavers, Oh yeah,
Zach Kieran, Joe Berger, Nick Easton, that's your all. Those
guys got meaningful offensive line snaps in twenty sixteen, and
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you guys battled. There was talent there. You were a
playoff team the year before, looking to elevate yourself. Bradford
was fine, Yeah, Bradford was okay.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, it was eight and eight and Bears at home
won the beat the Bears at home to go eight
and eight.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
That's right, I think. So, yeah, my final game and
well at least you walked off a way.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
But this year, this Sunday, they're going to be putting
their well different O line combination together for the fifth
game of the season, and it just reminds me a
bit of the optimism, talented group that just couldn't stay
on the field.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, now you go look at the teams that are there,
at the end NFC Title Game, Super Bowl, you look
at the stability the offensive line the Chiefs run. They've
been on stability. Pay guys, guys, stay healthy, guys. You
have to make it through the game. You know, through
the season. You maybe have a guy who misses a
game or two here or there. You plug and play
a guy for a couple of weeks and bring him back.
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Stability at the offensive line and rhythm and momentum at
the offensive line is a real thing. The more continuity
they have where they can play together and they're talking,
and they're working on games, and they got stunts and
they're and just that communication and you kind of get
in the rhythm just like just like a quarterback in
their receivers, just like anything somebody in the running game.
You can kind of get a couple carries, you get
hit and all of a sudden, I could feel it.
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The old line is double that, right, because their whole
life is communication. Their whole life is understanding what what's
right in front of them and what they've seen on tape,
and if they can communicate that to keep their guy upright.
And by the way, you're dealing with some beasts on
the other side of the football, and then you add
in the tight end, and you add in these running
backs to protections and then you So it's such a
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momentum position that's not talked about enough. And when you
get that continuity, by the time you get the end
of the season, man, you've done seen heard at all
where you can just solve almost any problem. And that's
to me is if you don't have that, I mean,
your quarterbacks are just you're guessing and that's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Last thing for you them will pause and then you
know what we're gonna We're gonna turn the page on
this and we'll start talking about how we can beat
up on Dylan Gabriel. Guess what I'm excited about that
Flores game. Let's get them. How did you handle that
as a defender, because it's always next man up, like
I get the mental machinations of I mean, again, it's
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week five. It's not week fifteen here, So let's let's
have perspective. We believe in our team, we believe even
the squad we want to believe, certainly, but at some
point you're you're watching this merry go round on the
offensive line, and over the course of a season, it
just feels like the burden would build defensively, where the
conversation through the first four weeks is our defense is
put us in spots where we have the ability to
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go and win these games, even Week two against the Falcons,
even Sunday against the against the Steelers. But that burden
has to build over the course of the year. How
do you shake that off? Where in the end, it's
just like I can control what I can control because
you can tell yourself and then in the mirror, but
there's got to be something that creeps in. You know
where I play college football, right, you played at a
place where the defense matters a lot.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, I mean the mentality they have a kid that
can grow now, Yeah, well yeah, that's what they say.
The mentality I came here with was the mentality of
we're going to win with the defensive side of the
ball and you don't care offense. And also a mentality
of and I learned this lesson in some ways the
hard way as a young college athlete is there's always
more you can do as an athlete, as a player,
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especially in this team game. It's like, how many mistakes
you make that you could have turned that game another direction.
A many times because you got off the field defensively,
we could have gave the offense the ball again and
gave another shot. So I think, yes, you have that
thought in the back of your mind, but we have
You have so much of your own crap to deal
with that you're just trying to deal with your in
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your own world and trying to do your job and
last house and stones and figure out how.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Can I impact this game.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
There's plenty of things on this defensive side of the
ball that we can clean up to make this situation
better offensively. And if we know we have a group
like the offensive line that's been hurt beat up, let's
keep giving them the ball. Let's keep giving them field position,
let's win. Let's get off the field on three and out.
Let's shorten the field. You know, let's make this thing easier.
That's the mentality they have in that in that locker room,
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guarantee you because they have good leadership. At the end
of day, they have good leadership, good coaching, and that's
what that's what's being preached.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I love that. That's Jack Greenway in studio. It's part
of the timber Tech set list. Nine to noon timber
Tech dot Com. Ten am, we're gonna check in with
at like overseas, Alec Lewis of the Athletic We'll have
an extended phone chat with him. Eleven o'clock. Paul Charchiats
can join from his bunker in Utah and we're gonna
chat a little fantasy and reality with our favorite football team.
(31:09):
You'll also hear not just from owner and president Mark Wilf,
who sat down with PA, but also wide receivers coach
Keenan McCardell will be with PA as well throughout the show.
It's a Friday feast nor to win for PA. Devin
Ward producing, you're listening to the fan, this is the
perfect song to compliment with Cam Newton being on the
TV right now. You think he bounced to a little Parliament.
(31:31):
Cam Newton absolutely, Jesse Lockero, a bit, Chad Greenway and Studio.
This will be a short segment facing a rookie quarterback.
So with Stefanski. You know Kevin Stefanski very well, of course,
but you think about the type of offense he wants
to run. We're gonna see a lot of Quinn Shawn
Judkins on Sunday at Tottenham eight thirty am kickoff. But
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this Dylan Gabriel cat, he's a south Paw, so much
like the Southern hemisphere, the water goes to the opposite direction,
the skin in the all will be different. It's how
do you catch it? I don't know how you catch it.
It's not my job. That's up to Justin Jefferson. That's
why he makes the big bucks or what? Or I
guess in this case I should say from a Brown's perspective,
Isaiah Bond, I think there's a Jamari Thrash. Don't ask
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me a Jerry Judy. You're oh Jerry Judy, k now
you know. I don't know one of them. There's this rookie,
Harold fannin junior. Basically he's like the h back, he's
the the blocking tight end. He's a football player. He's
a football player. But but but what do you think
about facing what? What? What makes you lick your chops
when you're thinking about facing a rookie. He's a little
(32:35):
bit different because there may be some designed runs and such,
you can create their own headaches. But just kind of
thinking about beating up on a rookie and getting a
w in England, Yeah. The biggest thing is you got
to get into third down.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You got to get into third down as many times
as you can and make him make decisions in that
in that situation when he knows he can potentially get pressure,
he knows him to get man coverage. Make him a
decision maker. And when you do that, you have a
good chance to win against a rookie. As the scene,
all these looks and is thinking too fast and trying
to play too fast, and you know undersized guy from
my from I remember from him in college the final Yeah,
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when you're rushing hands up, I mean the whole bit.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I mean, you got to you got to change your
whole approach. Now.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
The negative is is they have they have free headspace
that we don't really know what they're going to do.
And I think you got to mean you have to
overprepare in the run game because we know where to
get smashed with run. Like how much our po stuff
were going to get from college game? Like how much keeper?
You know, how much are they willing to keep. My
guess is that Stefanski is going to do anything possible
to win this game, which means he's going to the
quarterback is in play on a run game for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
And the other thing you have to think about. I
met this team last year actually on in Vegas randomly.
I was with her there with my daughter in Vegas.
The Browns played the Raiders and I got a chance
to come to their walk through. And Kevin's a good
football coach, great coach, and they respect him and they
play hard for him. And a team in the NFL
that has talent, no matter what that talent level is,
is capable of coming out and getting that getting getting
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to giving us an absolute handful if we don't come
out and take care of business. So expect a very,
very prepared and good Browns team that is going to
try to beat you at the line of scrimmage from
snap one to the end of the game and control
the game. Can we go toe to toe with them
and improve on the two losses we've had, which has
been in the last scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
This might be the lowest. I mean, I'm hoping our
squad figure I mean trying to run Mason against that front.
As good as the Browns are against the run, it's
going to take a serious level commitment from the head
coach and the ability maybe throughout the week, knowing who's
hurt on the offensive line, if you've been able to
put some good reps in from a cohesion standpoint, you
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just imagine, you know, certainly knowing who you're going to
work with is better than losing some guy midstream. That
appears quite obvious, but this might be the lowings. I mean,
Flora's defense weeping, nashing of teeth, can't stop the run,
team loses games. We get that. Flora's defense teams are
two for twenty six on third down and six or
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longer well through four. That's the story right there. I
mean that that's just just put Dylan Gabriel on a
third and nine. Yeah, no freaking chance.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I mean three things every week we would talk about
is make a team one dimensional, make him throw the football,
stop the run, create turnovers, and get him the third downs.
I mean that is that is defensive football in the NFL.
And got to win the third downs more than you
lose them. And I think when you put this rookie
on that spot you're gonna get you're gonna feel really
good about yourself. The one the one positive from throwing
the ball whatever too many times he threw last week
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is we got ten receptions out of the kid eighteen.
We got a little bit of continuity between him and Wentz.
We got a little unstop, we got a half particular,
we got a little bit of vibe going. I liked
that because we had you know, he hadn't he hadn't
had a rhythm game. He hadn't had a game where like, Okay,
I'm gonna get a bunch of touches, a bunch of chances.
And again, it was the situation of the game brought
us back. But I like that because now that that
that does lead into the next week. There's momentum there
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from a quarterback and receiver standpoint where all of a sudden,
like Carson's going to start to trust yep, jj is
gonna start to trust him to make the throw.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
And Jordan Addison Welcome back, Jordan, Welcome back Jordan, And
what a huge welcome back.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So you're gonna you're gonna force us to probably be
to throw the football more than we want to because
of how they play defense over there. You gotta trust
your quarterback to go make place. You know, decision making
is gonna be important. Trusting you guys are gonna make
a play and be important, and we have guys who
make place.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
You gotta have a DK.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Metcalf bit where all a sudden JJ go goes and
makes a play for your football team. You go to
go flip this game on his head.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
We just can't lose to the Browns. No, I mean
that's they don't. They don't play with the lead, they
don't score, they do nothing fast. They got this cool
running back and they got an elite defense. We just
can't lose to the freaking Browns. And I mean going
to the bye week three and two, we lick our wounds.
We get a couple of guys back Cashman after the bye.
I think we might have CJ this weekend. How about
the bounce? CJ Man back in the mix, gazing. We're
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getting healthier. I don't know what's up with Van Jinkle's neck.
I'm starting to feel good about this now. I'm starting
to I'm starting to I'm starting to change my face
on this thing. Let's go biggest time of possession. Yeah,
that's that.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
It's been a problem for this football team all year.
It's going to be an issue this weekend. If that's
what that's what Stefanski wants to do. Is own the
football and get off the field. Get off the field.
Get him a third down huge, first down is huge
this week on, get him a second, longs, get him
into third down situation.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
So it's gonna be it's gonna be easy.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
You know, early kegs and eggs, Great Ducks and eggs,
Great Ducks all good. Speaking of Gray Duck, what's good
with grey dock? Yeah, Gray duck man, You know it's
always buzzing over at Great Duck.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
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Speaker 4 (37:29):
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see mister Greenway down there eight thirty with some fun
(37:50):
little shenandigans we got going on. So if you're down
in Shockapy area, or you want to make a drive,
you know Shock maybe maybe maybe you stayed all night
at Mystic, you want to come over. It's close, you know,
come uch the game with us. Absolutely, thanks for hanging
out you bet, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
That's Chad Greenway, thanks to Gray Duck at Chad Greenway
five to two via X. You'll hear Pa chat with
Mark Wilf next nine to noon. Other fans welcome back.
Nine to noon. It's Nordowen for Pa, but Pa doing
some workover in London and the first to two conversations
you're going to hear from the nine to noon host
in advance of Sunday's Vikings Browns affair at Tottenham six
(38:26):
thirty am pregame. Vikings Audio Network joins at seven thirty
the Boom Kegs and Eggs Style eight thirty am pump
for all of that. That's right here on your home
for Vikings Football the Fan. But part of two conversations
that he had one with Keena McCardell, Vikings Wide Receivers coach.
You'll hear that next hour. But here he is with
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the owner and president of the squad, Mark Wilf.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Hey, welcome back to London and we're happy to be
joined by Minnesota Vikings co owner and team president of
Mark Wilf. In advance of the Vikings and Browns from
Tottenham Hotspur this weekend. Welcome back to London. It's quite
the familiar destination these days.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
It really starts to feel like the home away from home. No,
Dublin was one thing, but now we're kind of in
a familiar place. So we're ready for Sunday.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
How did the end of the equation, you know, it
was historical first regular season NFL game in Dublin into
the equation.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Outside of the result, how did the whole trip work out?
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Well, all the logistics are operations, folks. Our entire staff
did an amazing job and everything worked out smoothly.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Of course, not the results we wanted.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
But you know one thing about coach O'Connell, he's got
them refocused, reshifted, and I feel real good about the
energy coming into this game.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Mark, Why do you think the NFL likes you guys,
the Minnesota Vikings traveling abroad so frequently.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Well, first of all, we do have a great fan base,
and second, we're very supportive of the league the international efforts.
So you know, when they spoke to us about playing
two row games overseas and supporting it, we're all for it.
We're doing marketing in London, We're doing what we can
to promote the game. But We've always had a great
fan base in Europe and it shows and I know
in Tottenham on Sunday we're going to have it as well.
(40:13):
So all that combined, I think the league has come
to us. So saying all that, we got to get
the win on Sunday, what are the benefits to the team, Well,
I mean the benefits it's twofold. You know, from a
football standpoint, these are both road games, so you know
you do take away a little bit of the home field,
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although Dublin did feel a little.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Pittsburgh e to us.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
But I know this weekend we're gonna have a lot
of Minnesota there, so that'll be good. And on the
business side, again, we have a lot of corporate sponsors,
we have a lot of people that love the Vikings,
with a big fan fest this weekend in London. We
have a Viking bar that's being set up down by
the London Bridge. So there's a lot of energy and
excitement about the Minnesota Vikings and our brand and what.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
It can bring to the business community as well.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
And you mentioned the worldly nature of Minnesota Vikings fans
and it causes me to hearken to twenty thirteen when
you beat Pittsburgh at Wembley, and you know, like the
night before the game there was music. I can't remember
the name of the band, but your brother was there
for sure, and you could just kind of tell wow.
I mean, like, how does the appeal of the Minnesota
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Vikings reach so far? There's so many Vikings fans in Europe. Well,
all of our history. I mean this goes back twenty
thirty years. I think we were playing preseason games in
Scandinavia and all.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
The rest, and you know, the Minnesota Vikings that we
have such a rich history. So we have fans all
over the world. And when you see that purple and
goal over here, it's re energizing. I think the players
feel it as well, and we're going to feel it
this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
And you know, I probably shouldn't mention names here because
when I mentioned a few names, I'm going to leave
some out because of just everything from an operational standpoint
that has gone into this unprecedented back back journey. Chad Lundein,
Paul Martin, malam Burgess, Chuck Peterson operations. Then you get
into Mike Parson and his staff, you get into Tyler
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and his staff. There's so much that goes in to
the back to back nature, and it seems like it's
just gone swimmingly.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I mean, thank you for.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Mentioning all those names, because they are all superstars, and
I know Coach feels it as well.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I just spoke to them about it.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I mean, the things that run so smoothly makes the
culture as good as it is in white players and
staff want to be around it, and I think that's
going to bode well for our long term franchise future.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
And that's how you win championships. You have all parts
working smoothly, including the guys you mentioned as as co
owner and president.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I mean that really legitimately has to make you proud,
and I talk about it nine to noon on the
radio too. Where culture can be such a trite and
overused term this day and age, but for somebody like
me and somebody like you, we've been around a couple
of decades.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
You know, we know what bad culture looks like.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You know what authentic culture looks like like it is
now and that's really hard to attain absolutely, and it's
something you know.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
You can pour resources into something, but you need the
right people. And between Quasi and Coach and robres Andsking,
all the people you just mentioned, and Andrew Miller, everybody
pulling together, and you feel it when you're overseas. It
really takes a lot to pull all this together, and
when you have the injuries we've had and every club
goes through it, but you have the recovery setup and
the systems we have. So we're proud of it all
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and we're hoping for winning formulas here and last one
or two here with Mark Wilf team president, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Take the boss hat off and put on the fan
hat where you want the team to win every single game.
Do do you have to sometimes like take a step
back and recognize, Wow, look at all these injuries. We've
had to use two quarterbacks, but we still have thirteen left.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
You know, the fan in you, how does it handle it? Well,
I'm taking the coaches Q on this.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
You know you can say but and if all day long,
but we've got to go out and Sunday and do
what we've got to do. And I know he's going
to have them ready and you know you got to
get it done. The NFL is a week by week deal,
and again we do have the roster to get it done.
And I'm proud of how the guys are fighting through
and playing last one.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
The Vikings will head into Sunday's game with their twelfth
offensive line combination. Then they that's just the season. Then
they get the bye after this. Out of that at
home against Philadelphia, now Sunday against Cleveland. Well, their head
coach is Kevin Stefanski, somebody who was with you at
decade and a half. You guys gave him a big
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chance with Childress in two thousand and six, the very
early years of your ownership tenure.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
I know you're very fond of him. He's quite good
at what he does. Absolutely, you know Kevin. I mean,
he's been with us since the beginning and we were
very happy, and we knew day one that one day
he was going to be an NFL head coach. He's
that smart, he's got that great personality to work with everybody.
So it'll be a a strange experience see him on
the other sideline. We'll give him a little hug and
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wish him well, but you know, we got to win
on Sunday. But he's an amazing person.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, Battle of the Kevin's coming up Sunday. We'll be
pulling for hours. With all due respect, Kevin O'Connell, thank
you very much, Mark, thank you, Pa. Mark Wilf, team
president and co owner of the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Mark Wilf with Pa from London. And yes, of course
we all love Kevin Stefanski, but you know what, we're
going to beat Kevin Stefanski's team on Sunday with Christian Darisaw,
Joe Huber, Blake, Brandell, Will Fries and Justin's school and
we'll continue that conversation in terms of the Vikings and
what it's all gonna look like Sunday at Tottenham with
(45:39):
Alec Lewis of the Athletic. He joins from London. Next
second hour ahead, it's nine to noon on the
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:55):
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in motion.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
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Speaker 2 (02:02):
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Speaker 3 (02:06):
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Speaker 1 (02:10):
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Speaker 2 (02:11):
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Pittsburgh Steelers are kicking a six to three lead.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You stick to st.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Aaron Rodgers first and ten from his own twenty He's
eight of eight for sixty five yards back to pass
asked Paul over the middle, dk Metcalf bought it on
the run. He's of the forty fifty nineteen forty to
the thirty inside the twenty touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers and eighty
yard touchdown from Aaron Rodgers to DK Metcalf and the
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Pittsburgh Staelers and their fans have these terrible towels waving
all over four Park.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Why they have a thirteen three lead.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Burden sixteen trailing by a pass over the metal tiptoff
TJ Watt tipped it to an south and TG Watt
has picked off Carson Wentz. We're taken down in the
thirty four yard line. That is the eight interception of TJ.
Watts career. And the Pittsburgh Steelers have turned over the
Minnesota Vikings four and seventeen from the thirty two of Minnesota,
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trampling Koree the either team with any time out, fourteen
seconds to go, snap from Jurgens to Wins, great rock
fires over the middle and it's incomplete. Gordon Addison the
intended target, and the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to get
the Minnesota Vikings their first lags outside of the United
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States of America.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Twenty four to twenty one will be in the finals.
Four He's connected sixty five one carpets plus studio. It's
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that Devin was playing. Thank you for joining us to
kickoff nine to noon. Not a lot of positives to
take from Sunday's game in Dublin, Ireland. Looking to turn
that around with the Browns, Kegs and Eggs take two
Tottenham Stadium eight thirty am, kickoff here six thirty am.
Pregame here and hoping the Vikings could head into the
buy with a W and a winning record, maybe find
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some healthy bodies along the way. Nordo in for PA.
You will hear a couple of PA check ins throughout
the show today. He had the opportunity to chat with
team owner president Mark Wilf. You'll hear that actually later
this hour, and then wide receiver coach Keenan McCardell will
be in the mix. We have some suppressor audio from
Kevin O'Connell speaking to the media about a half hour
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Speaker 4 (05:14):
How you doing, man, I'm doing well. Yeah, I'm doing well.
You know, it's so disappointing. I think the way the
game just went in the approach and you'll get the
stats and kind of tell us part of the story.
I mean, this this week is big. I mean it's
it's a big, big week. I mean to be able
to get a dub on the road, finish one to
one in this trip, come back with the winning record,
and like you said, get some healthy bodies at the
end of the day, which is is you don't want
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to make an excuse for your for your team, but
the reality is is they've been they've been going through
it here this early part of the season, and to
be able to get through this week and get a dub,
get hopefully get a few bodies back, and then hopefully
you can catch your strike because you know, if we
look ahead for the schedule and getting it easier.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
No, it's not. We were I was talking with with
Pa and Ben Lieber yesterday and just kind of the
kind of the idea like the most important game in
Kevin O'Connell's life. Life is always just the next one, right,
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Welcome to football, man. It's just it's always next and
that's that's the best part about the loss.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
We have next week, Yeah, there's another one and frankly,
there's thirteen more of them in total, so lots of opportunities.
But with that said, would you be feeling the urgency
that I feel as a fan where it's like, okay,
things are negative one thousand percent, I don't know who
half the guys are on the offensive line and what
just happened against the Steelers. That's a setback health of
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the young QB. We're watching him while we're watching Carson
try to do his thing. And in the end, yes,
it's early season, early October, but with the way things
have gone, even at two and two, we feel in
some ways blessed to be there. There's extra urgency here,
like we can't lose to the freaking Browns.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You would feel that as a player, Yeah, you one
hundred percent feel that, And I think in some ways,
because you're overseas, you almost have a little bit of
a training Campbine because you're kind of all together, and
you be all together, you know, at night and during
the day, and you don't you're not going home and
not seeing the family a lot. For a lot of
the attractions might actually be less in some capacities when
you're traveling like this. Even though it's a you're a
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national I think it's a good chance for them to
come together and this is we are what we are.
We have who we have, and who's going to be healthy,
who's going to be able to play this week? You know,
the defensive side of the balls got their fair share
of stuff going on. So there's a there's a sense
of urgency in that building or in that room and
in the hotel right now where they got to get
something done and they know it. And I think you
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gotta come out and you're gonna play A brown seam
is going to absolutely fight you, and they need a
win too. And Stefanski's going to have those guys ready.
We know how good a football coach he is. And
regardless of the talent, you know, you have to go
get a win. Now you have a young quarterback coming
in to be the starter for the first time. We
can't let him get going. You want to see him,
give him a bunch of different looks, needing it after him,
make him make some mistakes. Uh, it's a huge week.
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And I think it's fair to say that this is
this is it's not it's not if win or else.
But look at the division. Look what we have in
front of us. This is a massive game, and we
take it. We got to take it that way. And listen,
these guys are pros. You show up righty to play,
and you show up and get yourself to get yourself
ready to play, and then go out.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There and play well.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
And if you don't, your best chance to is the
next week to come back and say, hey, we got
to write the ship. And you know, just look at
the staff, you look at the rushing yards given up,
look at the time possession. The fact we have to
throw the ball of forty five forty six times tells
you with out of story. Rogers threw a twenty twenty
two times, twenty three times. That tells you the story
of how the game went, very efficient and very efficient,
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getting first downs, big throws, gain well goes for what
one hundred I mean, just that kind of tells you
the story and again gain well in the two losses.
Is what has been the story, right, is our inability
to have a Williams wall that's been able to hold
up and you know, limit teams to rush yards.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Is there any part of that where because talking about
it through this week, I mean, you see what you
see on Sunday, the injuries. Would you have taken that
guy seriously sorry and so distracting?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
No, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Cam Newton on the big work. You pointed at him
because he's got the hat on, he's got the colored sunglasses.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
He's Davison County guy of South Dakota. He's got to
be out there now. Now you guys gave Cam Newton fits. Yeah,
but that's MVP caliber.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I mean one of the most difficult quarterbacks to bring
down one of this the I mean the great athletes
of the last twenty five where Cam Cammon league. I'm
just like, what is this?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
But the thing that could that Cam couldn't overcome is
the cold weather at TCF Bank Stadium now Hans Bank.
He came up here that day and he wanted no
part of any of that cold energy.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I'm trying to think was it feeling and was it
Everson that both had defensive tds that day as part
of the blowout, right exactly. I think that's the that's
the that's the genesis of Detroit Lakes go crazy. And
he blocked it. I think the Eland blocked it. Said score. Oh,
I mean, that's come on. So we do lots of
and high fives in the locker room after that. Uh
(09:50):
with we've talked about Rogers a ton. I mean, you
you saw him a ton during your playing career. Is
there any element where you look back at Sunday and
you're just thinking to yourself, Yeah, we got Rogers, I mean,
and so you like you can say roster top to bottom,
you feel like, and we saw the health situations that
played out during the game. We know they have DK,
we know they have TJ. Watt, et cetera. But just
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in the end, you're just you're walking away. You're like,
he did it to us again. Yeah, you know, he
just he knows where to go with the football when
he's playing well. And when he was when he was
flying high in Green Bay and had some good weapons
on the outside, they would run so many simple concepts
just to take what you are giving them. Yeah, and
he and when you have a quarterback that knows where
the football is supposed to go against that coverage because
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he knows who's got leverage and he knows who's going
to win. It's almost predetermined that he knows, and.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That's why the balls out of his hands so fast,
because he knows if you're sitting this type of his
own coverage and you have this responsibility within that coverage
because because of his intellect, he knows that route is
going to be open when he hits his third step. Okay,
you're in man coverage, all right, what kind of leverage
this guy playing? Okay, this is the route I have
against that leverage. I know he's going to be open
when he turned. So having that ability, and again you
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can think back to our young quarterback and even what
Carson's been able to do when he's come in at
least put up some numbers and obviously look good in parts,
and obviously the interception has hurt us. But the reality
is is when you know where to go with the
football because you know what the defense is going to
give you, you just you just take it and let
your players make place. And that's exactly what happened in
this situation this weekend, and he you know, you throw
the ball twenty plus times and you get a win
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on the road, a huge win. Mike Tomas got that
look in his eye, that the smile and smirk that
I don't like, especially when you're playing against him.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
But you know, he just they got it.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They got a little thing going right there last week
and and I think that was the offensive people thought
they could have.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We I just know why had it happened against us? Yeah,
back to before we got distracted. I mean, look at
Cam right now with the with the tie. It's a vibe.
I don't know what's I can't even describe it. See
people are people are down on it. I don't get it.
Cam had his ups and downs of his career and
then his arm just stopped working. I just kind of
love Cam Newton. I could never wear that. It looks ridiculous.
You know, he's consistent, He's and he doesn't shy away
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from he doesn't he leans into it. He's consistent. It's
not for me, but man does he does he own nothing?
I just want to know what he spends on clothes.
That's expensive. Good Lord, that pension's got to be good, though, right, yeah,
oh yeahs were really good and he made a couple
of bucks first overall, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Where I was going though before we got distracted by
Cam Newton is when you see a loss like you
saw and the health situation, I mean just kind of balancing. Okay,
the talker is it's and it always goes this way. Well,
the GM and his horrible drafting and put us in
a spot so so that was so so trying to
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take that which is and as I've said, like the
listeners are going to focus on a lot of that
and I'm in on it. I'm in on it. It's
a valid talker where when you when you go to
the well and free agency. And I think he deserves
a ton of praise given some of the guys that
he picked up for the value that he picked him
up on. You know, one guy in particular who's off
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to it feels like a historic star would be Isaiah Rodgers.
Like nobody's shying away from from how important he's been
to this defense so far. But you mentioned not having
that Williams wall in those two losses, the idea of okay,
you know, we can spend all week ripping the GM,
or we can also say, well, this is what we have.
That's like a January conversation. Right now, we've got to
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figure out how to beat the Browns. Do you see
any in the advancement of pass rush through the middle
with Hargrave and Allen? Are you potentially giving up something
in terms of what a Bullard and a Harrison Phillips
provided in terms of the run stopping because then, as
you mentioned it, Kenneth freaking gainwell should not have he
was on the doorstep like ninety nine yards. I think yeah,
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and then bejon Is Bajon and if he's not getting
you on the ground, he's probably catching and running, etc.
Just an incredible player that he is, he has a
right to have a good game. But in the same sense,
there has been that kind of that focal point of
you know, again ripping the GM, but then also looking
pragmatically at the defensive front and it's like, we're really
pumped about this and they're healthy, they're healthy, But but
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to that end, have we given up something to gain something?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I think you know, you know, factor in Van Ginkle, facturing,
cash Man, factoring these other things that are coming at
you right But listen, We're good enough to win both
the games we lost. It's not a it's not a
talent issue. So we can look in place blame because
that's what we do.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
There's the problem with the NFL is you have six
or seven days between games, so you got to fill
some air, right, You got to have something to talk about,
have them to complain about. We could be five, four
and oh right now when we find some of the
things that some issues that discussion. Why wouldn't we That's
just part of the game that makes the NFL so great.
It's year round. You're discussing all these things. Was the
roster looked like what's a GM? But the reality is
we're good enough talent wise to win both games.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Did we win them? The wins games you lost, did
we win them?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
We found ways to lose those games.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
The guys that are in those spots that knows at
three in the interior defense environment are good enough to
make those plays, but they're not making them. And the
reality is is we have to get to a spot
where those guys are No. Again, everybody does a little
something different, right. The guys we trade away and got
rid of would have certainly helped but what are we
taking away from a pass rush?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well, you know what does a room look like? You
can't count on what injuries you're gonna have. That's just
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
It's gonna it's gonna hit you us some way, somehow
every year, very rarely you're gonna get a super healthy season,
and it's it just hit us hard early. And the reality, though,
is it's still in front of us. Yeah, So the
ups and downs of the NFL season, the more you
can just stay the same, the more you can just
be the thermostat and just absolutely keep your temperature and say, hey,
we're gonna keep charging ahead. We have these ups and downs,
(15:38):
we're gonna get healthier and we're gonna find a way
to get back on pace. And we got to get
a win this weekend, and we got to treat it accordingly.
And we gotta go out and start fast the team.
The games that we've that we've lost, we got behind.
We just we start slow, we can't finish drives, we're
not getting off the field. And the other games we
start fast, we make a play. So your first fifteen
as a coach offensively got to be sharp. You gotta
(15:58):
know what you gotta know what you're gonna get. You
gotta have an answer to all those problems. And defensive
we got to come out. We can't make mistakes. And
for you know, I'm okay. I'm okay with a team
establishing the past game early, but I'm certainly okay with
this with the team established a run game early.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, because when you get the.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Run game going early and all of a sudden, you
have all sorts of issues to deal with.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I saw this. I saw this stat and I think
it's from Warren Sharp, not think I know it's from
Warren Sharp, and I'm trying to scramble to get it now. Well,
but I can paraphrase it because I think I have
it right. The New Orleans Saints are zero and four, okay,
new coach. I mean they're trotting Spencer Rattler out there.
I mean that thinks you know that's something down in
the Bayou. Best of luck to them, Actually, no, no,
(16:39):
they go. I said that I hope they have a
winless season. No, no, that's correct. I apologize. I was
trying to offer a bit of grace to them, but no,
no thank you and no luck to the New Orleans Saints.
Fans were talking. They have not played one offensive snap
with the lead thus far in twenty and twenty five
fast starters down there the second worst two snaps the
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Cleveland brown Wow, we can't. They don't want us, They
can't start fast. This is and they grinded their way
to a victory with the with the big field goal
block and then the field goal by whatever his name
is that the Browns kicker, who is a disaster. Week one,
they could have beaten Burrow. They missed it. They're one
and three, two snaps all through four games in which
(17:24):
they have had the advantage. If I see Judkins get
loose and suddenly they're up seven to nothing, he's done,
he does. I'm doing this appearance at Gray's Food Haul.
It's downtown, backside of Target Field on Sunday morning. I'm
gonna lose my freaking mind.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah yeah, it's an eight am bloody Mary. Probably tow
some great duck in there. Get yourself looped up and
going well, and that takes the edge off. I will
encourage it for others. I have to do fan line later,
hopefully a victorious one. It makes it makes fan line better. Yeah,
one or five wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, it makes fan.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Line better either way, the corn lose makes it better.
They can't start fast.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, if the Browns have a lead in this game,
that that is absolute red alert problem for our favorite
football And because of how Stefanski wants to play the.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Game one thousand percent. He wants to control the line
of scrimmage, he wants to run the football, he wants
to be able to run the clock, and he got
they have a creature on the other side that we
have to be mindful of that can absolutely wreck a
football game.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And I think we have to be mindful of that
as we drop back.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
We want to you know, Garrett, listen, we want to
we want to throw the ball under around twenty times.
It's been the it's been the sauce to winning the
first two two wins of the season. We want to
make sure we can control more of the game than
we've been controlling. The game has been controlled by the
team we've been playing almost in every game so far
this season, and even the throwaway game with Isaiah Rodgers.
Bit like, what's real from that? Because the reality is
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we got to too scoop and scorers. Yeah, I don't
know what's.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Real at this moment.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
You don't know what you take from that, to be
honest with you, because that's a game that's a little
bit of a you know, you just don't know. It's
it's it's almost the it's almost throw it out. But
reality is, we got to show up and get ready
to play. And and I think the maturity of this
football team would be tested this week. I think the
leadership of our football team would be tested this week.
I think we're going to know in the first quarter
of what this week looks like. No, I think you're right.
I don't mean to harp on the negative. So you
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remember DK Metcalf's touchdown. Yeah, and it's it's difficult you're
watching TV copy.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I don't think you. I mean, you certainly haven't been
in the film room this week watching God Mac. But
but there I'm just curious. So you have DK Metcalf
in the slot. Ron Johnson's telling me he runs a
bang eight or whatnot. But on that play, I see
two things happening where Harrison Smith's too late to come down.
I see Eric Wilson chasing and just kind of the
(19:34):
thing that has popped in my head over the course
of this with all the health issues. Man, we miss Cashman. Like,
I just feel like, I don't know if there's a
position in the end, they just needed to tackle DK.
As difficult as that is. I'm asking you, guys, compensated
fairly high end athletes that you are, like, I need
you to tackle better in some spots, if I may
be as to ask, but I'm just like Cashman, I
(19:57):
miss Blake and I'm excited. I know Philly is the
boogeyman around the bye week corner, but man, I need
Blake back. I need Van Ginkle back, you know. And
it's just I hate where we're We're sitting this early
in the season where everything is how do we evaluate
the QB, Well, I need X Y z O lineman
in there. How do I evaluate the defense, well I
need I need Van Ginkle and Cashman.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
You know, where this was stability. You lost stability. And
you know, I think you know, the best of the best.
The best ability in the NFL is availability and showing
up and being the guy.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
So Cashman's best ability last year was he was a
game changer, not only physically on the field, but a
guy that you could just count on. You know, He's
gonna be where he's supposed to be, to make the
player supposed to make, to make the tackle he's supposed
to make. You know, missed a few here there, of course,
like anybody. But the reality was players are going to
make plays in this league. Dk Metcalf is a creature.
Aaron Rodgers is going to be crazy. He's going to
throw the ball to the right spot. And guys, you're
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gonna make plays. It's the NFL. All these teams are good.
The Browns are capable of beating us. They have players
to do it. You have to show up and not
just roll the help out and say we're going to
get a win because on paper it looks like we're
better than them. So when dk Metcalf catches that ball,
that's great. It can't turn into a touchdown. Now it
has to be put on the ground and say, okay,
now go get the next fifty yards. It's easy for
(21:06):
me to say, though, to put a I've missed a
lot of tackles.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Be the sacrificial lamb and can you can you run
in front of that semi truck real quick?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I don't want to, but I will. And the thing
is is like again, I missed a million tackles when
I played. But the reality is is like you just
try to find a way to get that guy on
the ground and live and live another down. So take
a better angle, get him down, run him out of bounce,
whatever it is. You're not too prideful to get dragged,
are you?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
No, I mean the freeze. One of the guys that
could drag yet. That guy that plays running back for
the Ravens from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh, Dereck Henry.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, maybe, Yeah, that guy I remember when he came
as a rookie my last year. He turned the corner
again with the Titans. That might have been the opening game,
one of the first couple of games I can look.
He turned the corner and I simply said, what the
h is that? You just didn't have anybody you've ever
seen before running downhill that you just want to run
(21:59):
through your neck? And yeah, you get drugged for five
or six, you get up, you go play the next
play necessarily how it goes. He's well, first of all,
what was your playing way? Were you forty then? I
was probably two thirty thirty? Yeah, thirty three years old
is ready to getting either in the wheelchair?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
So he's and it was. It was the opening game.
You guys won that game. I think with Sean Hill.
Eric Hendricks had a pick and I think the Neil
maybe maybe you had a pick and Daniel had the
defensive the fumble rumble, yep, Shawn Hill. I think Darrin
Shan Hill. I'm pretty sure Derek Henry has fifteen pounds
of muscle on you and maybe an inch and just
(22:38):
better genetics. He's faster, better looking. I mean, he's still
stronger and I'm and he's playing running back. This isn't well,
that's that's my point though. It's it's not harping on
Chad Greenway. It's more it's uh, oh, no, get in line.
And there's several more like me, No but no.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
But but is it?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
How do you stop that? That that's insane? Like a
four to four guys at his zenith. I mean, he's
getting older now and such, but still he's paying somebody
a quarter million dollars to keep him in shape in
the offseason. He's running beating hills that he cut back
on me.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
The first time I saw him is he got his
shoulder square coming downhill and I was rocking back. So
I was a gap, kind of beat to backside and
then he cuts back. I have that backside scrape, so
I'm catching He's literally catching me on my heels, and
I mean, it was an awful situation. And you find
yourself in those and you just survive those, and you
simply go ankle grabbing, you go ankle bite, and you
just try to get your head across his thighs and
(23:28):
bring him down and try to live.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I mean, let me tell you this, though, you guys,
did you did? You did a pretty good job. Remember
DeMarco Murray? Oh yeah, but but he only had three
yards rushing that game. You may have had two entail.
You may have had to find him. He had two
catches for forty one yards in that game. I don't
want to be in front of that cat. Let's see.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Let's see what oh I did? I was That was
my first That was Eric Kendricks and Barr played Nickels.
So I didn't play many snaps that game because I
was third. That was kind of first second down. Guy,
I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Zero stats, I don't I don't think you registered to
tackle in particular game.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, no, that sounds about right. I think we played
very little based defense.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Okay, yeah, fumble recovery and the TD it was Kendricks
and Hunter. You got Sean Hill. How'd Sean Hill do
eighteen of thirty three? Okay? Very pedestrian eight yards on
the ground. Adrian, tough day for him. You grind it
out of victory at Nissan Stadium. Uh, speaking at twenty sixteen. Yep.
When you watch this and you just kind of doesn't
it kind of feel like that? So uh, Teddy goes down,
(24:29):
it's awful for everybody. It was like August thirtieth to
thirty first. Yep. I remember Tuesday at the State Fair.
We're doing the NFC in great debate bit with with
Wobble Wobble, Lavelli, Neil the Third and Dave Sinecon. Everybody's
feeling good. Got the miskick behind us now like full
speed ahead. Adrian's gonna ro you did? I did have that.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
It was not out of my head yet. There's bit
or No that was not past that did did? Did
Walsh's lot? Like was Walsh's locker out in like the
tunnel or something like that? I mean, poor kid, No,
I know that's well Frankly, I just I hope everything's
good with him. He never really recovered from that. He's
in real estate now. He is a great, smart guy.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Sweet. I think he's on West Coast. Oh, good for him,
that's great, But the kick went the wrong way. Fresh
Life breathed into the squad. Twenty sixteen, Teddy goes down Bradford.
You flip the first to Howie Roseman for Bradford. Sean
Hill gets you the w as we talked about. Against
the Titans. You start out I think five and oher
into the by. He got Cheryls with the punt return
(25:27):
against Houston. What was it primetime against Odell Beckham Junior
and the Giants and Xavier Roads fighting them and Odell
fighting like a kicking net or something. I mean, just
everything's good, great memory. You go into the bye. But
it was week two. It was the opener at us
Bank Stadium, and I still remember Trey Wayns gets the
(25:48):
pick to seal the game. Zimmers, I mean Zimmer, I
mean at the combine would have been first or second
in vertical, but you lose Matt Khalil to the mcl
adrian as well as a matter of fact. But then
I and I just I had this pulled up the
other day. I'll run it through again. Andre Smith, Matt Khalil,
Rashad Hill, Jeremiah Searles, Jake Long rips his achilles at
(26:13):
FedEx when you're trying to go and tie the game. TJ. Clemings,
Alex Boone, Brandon Fusco, your favorite, Willie Beavers, Oh yeah,
Zach Kieran, Joe Berger, Nick Easton, that's your all. Those
guys got meaningful offensive line snaps in twenty sixteen, and
(26:35):
you guys battled. There was talent there. You were a
playoff team the year before, looking to elevate yourself. Bradford
was fine, Yeah, Bradford was okay.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, it was eight and eight and Bears at home
won the beat the Bears at home to go eight
and eight.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
That's right, I think. So, yeah, my final game and
well at least you walked off a way.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
But this year, this Sunday, they're going to be putting
their well different O line combination together for the fifth
game of the season, and it just reminds me a
bit of the optimism, talented group that just couldn't stay
on the field.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, now you go look at the teams that are there,
at the end NFC Title Game, Super Bowl, you look
at the stability the offensive line the Chiefs run. They've
been on stability. Pay guys, guys, stay healthy, guys. You
have to make it through the game. You know, through
the season. You maybe have a guy who misses a
game or two here or there. You plug and play
a guy for a couple of weeks and bring him back.
(27:32):
Stability at the offensive line and rhythm and momentum at
the offensive line is a real thing. The more continuity
they have where they can play together and they're talking,
and they're working on games, and they got stunts and
they're and just that communication and you kind of get
in the rhythm just like just like a quarterback in
their receivers, just like anything somebody in the running game.
You can kind of get a couple carries, you get
hit and all of a sudden, I could feel it.
(27:53):
The old line is double that, right, because their whole
life is communication. Their whole life is understanding what what's
right in front of them and what they've seen on tape,
and if they can communicate that to keep their guy upright.
And by the way, you're dealing with some beasts on
the other side of the football, and then you add
in the tight end, and you add in these running
backs to protections and then you So it's such a
(28:14):
momentum position that's not talked about enough. And when you
get that continuity, by the time you get the end
of the season, man, you've done seen heard at all
where you can just solve almost any problem. And that's
to me is if you don't have that, I mean,
your quarterbacks are just you're guessing and that's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Last thing for you them will pause and then you
know what we're gonna We're gonna turn the page on
this and we'll start talking about how we can beat
up on Dylan Gabriel. Guess what I'm excited about that
Flores game. Let's get them. How did you handle that
as a defender, because it's always next man up, like
I get the mental machinations of I mean, again, it's
(28:54):
week five. It's not week fifteen here, So let's let's
have perspective. We believe in our team, we believe even
the squad we want to believe, certainly, but at some
point you're you're watching this merry go round on the
offensive line, and over the course of a season, it
just feels like the burden would build defensively, where the
conversation through the first four weeks is our defense is
put us in spots where we have the ability to
(29:15):
go and win these games, even Week two against the Falcons,
even Sunday against the against the Steelers. But that burden
has to build over the course of the year. How
do you shake that off? Where in the end, it's
just like I can control what I can control because
you can tell yourself and then in the mirror, but
there's got to be something that creeps in. You know
where I play college football, right, you played at a
place where the defense matters a lot.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, I mean the mentality they have a kid that
can grow now, Yeah, well yeah, that's what they say.
The mentality I came here with was the mentality of
we're going to win with the defensive side of the
ball and you don't care offense. And also a mentality
of and I learned this lesson in some ways the
hard way as a young college athlete is there's always
more you can do as an athlete, as a player,
(29:57):
especially in this team game. It's like, how many mistakes
you make that you could have turned that game another direction.
A many times because you got off the field defensively,
we could have gave the offense the ball again and
gave another shot. So I think, yes, you have that
thought in the back of your mind, but we have
You have so much of your own crap to deal
with that you're just trying to deal with your in
(30:17):
your own world and trying to do your job and
last house and stones and figure out how.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Can I impact this game.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
There's plenty of things on this defensive side of the
ball that we can clean up to make this situation
better offensively. And if we know we have a group
like the offensive line that's been hurt beat up, let's
keep giving them the ball. Let's keep giving them field position,
let's win. Let's get off the field on three and out.
Let's shorten the field. You know, let's make this thing easier.
That's the mentality they have in that in that locker room,
(30:44):
guarantee you because they have good leadership. At the end
of day, they have good leadership, good coaching, and that's
what that's what's being preached.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I love that. That's Jack Greenway in studio. It's part
of the timber Tech set list. Nine to noon timber
Tech dot Com. Ten am, we're gonna check in with
at like overseas, Alec Lewis of the Athletic We'll have
an extended phone chat with him. Eleven o'clock. Paul Charchiats
can join from his bunker in Utah and we're gonna
chat a little fantasy and reality with our favorite football team.
(31:09):
You'll also hear not just from owner and president Mark Wilf,
who sat down with PA, but also wide receivers coach
Keenan McCardell will be with PA as well throughout the show.
It's a Friday feast nor to win for PA. Devin
Ward producing, you're listening to the fan, this is the
perfect song to compliment with Cam Newton being on the
TV right now. You think he bounced to a little Parliament.
(31:31):
Cam Newton absolutely, Jesse Lockero, a bit, Chad Greenway and Studio.
This will be a short segment facing a rookie quarterback.
So with Stefanski. You know Kevin Stefanski very well, of course,
but you think about the type of offense he wants
to run. We're gonna see a lot of Quinn Shawn
Judkins on Sunday at Tottenham eight thirty am kickoff. But
(31:53):
this Dylan Gabriel cat, he's a south Paw, so much
like the Southern hemisphere, the water goes to the opposite direction,
the skin in the all will be different. It's how
do you catch it? I don't know how you catch it.
It's not my job. That's up to Justin Jefferson. That's
why he makes the big bucks or what? Or I
guess in this case I should say from a Brown's perspective,
Isaiah Bond, I think there's a Jamari Thrash. Don't ask
(32:15):
me a Jerry Judy. You're oh Jerry Judy, k now
you know. I don't know one of them. There's this rookie,
Harold fannin junior. Basically he's like the h back, he's
the the blocking tight end. He's a football player. He's
a football player. But but but what do you think
about facing what? What? What makes you lick your chops
when you're thinking about facing a rookie. He's a little
(32:35):
bit different because there may be some designed runs and such,
you can create their own headaches. But just kind of
thinking about beating up on a rookie and getting a
w in England, Yeah. The biggest thing is you got
to get into third down.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You got to get into third down as many times
as you can and make him make decisions in that
in that situation when he knows he can potentially get pressure,
he knows him to get man coverage. Make him a
decision maker. And when you do that, you have a
good chance to win against a rookie. As the scene,
all these looks and is thinking too fast and trying
to play too fast, and you know undersized guy from
my from I remember from him in college the final Yeah,
(33:08):
when you're rushing hands up, I mean the whole bit.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I mean, you got to you got to change your
whole approach. Now.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
The negative is is they have they have free headspace
that we don't really know what they're going to do.
And I think you got to mean you have to
overprepare in the run game because we know where to
get smashed with run. Like how much our po stuff
were going to get from college game? Like how much keeper?
You know, how much are they willing to keep. My
guess is that Stefanski is going to do anything possible
to win this game, which means he's going to the
quarterback is in play on a run game for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
And the other thing you have to think about. I
met this team last year actually on in Vegas randomly.
I was with her there with my daughter in Vegas.
The Browns played the Raiders and I got a chance
to come to their walk through. And Kevin's a good
football coach, great coach, and they respect him and they
play hard for him. And a team in the NFL
that has talent, no matter what that talent level is,
is capable of coming out and getting that getting getting
(33:56):
to giving us an absolute handful if we don't come
out and take care of business. So expect a very,
very prepared and good Browns team that is going to
try to beat you at the line of scrimmage from
snap one to the end of the game and control
the game. Can we go toe to toe with them
and improve on the two losses we've had, which has
been in the last scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
This might be the lowest. I mean, I'm hoping our
squad figure I mean trying to run Mason against that front.
As good as the Browns are against the run, it's
going to take a serious level commitment from the head
coach and the ability maybe throughout the week, knowing who's
hurt on the offensive line, if you've been able to
put some good reps in from a cohesion standpoint, you
(34:38):
just imagine, you know, certainly knowing who you're going to
work with is better than losing some guy midstream. That
appears quite obvious, but this might be the lowings. I mean,
Flora's defense weeping, nashing of teeth, can't stop the run,
team loses games. We get that. Flora's defense teams are
two for twenty six on third down and six or
(34:58):
longer well through four. That's the story right there. I
mean that that's just just put Dylan Gabriel on a
third and nine. Yeah, no freaking chance.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I mean three things every week we would talk about
is make a team one dimensional, make him throw the football,
stop the run, create turnovers, and get him the third downs.
I mean that is that is defensive football in the NFL.
And got to win the third downs more than you
lose them. And I think when you put this rookie
on that spot you're gonna get you're gonna feel really
good about yourself. The one the one positive from throwing
the ball whatever too many times he threw last week
(35:31):
is we got ten receptions out of the kid eighteen.
We got a little bit of continuity between him and Wentz.
We got a little unstop, we got a half particular,
we got a little bit of vibe going. I liked
that because we had you know, he hadn't he hadn't
had a rhythm game. He hadn't had a game where like, Okay,
I'm gonna get a bunch of touches, a bunch of chances.
And again, it was the situation of the game brought
us back. But I like that because now that that
that does lead into the next week. There's momentum there
(35:54):
from a quarterback and receiver standpoint where all of a sudden,
like Carson's going to start to trust yep, jj is
gonna start to trust him to make the throw.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
And Jordan Addison Welcome back, Jordan, Welcome back Jordan, And
what a huge welcome back.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So you're gonna you're gonna force us to probably be
to throw the football more than we want to because
of how they play defense over there. You gotta trust
your quarterback to go make place. You know, decision making
is gonna be important. Trusting you guys are gonna make
a play and be important, and we have guys who
make place.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
You gotta have a DK.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Metcalf bit where all a sudden JJ go goes and
makes a play for your football team. You go to
go flip this game on his head.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
We just can't lose to the Browns. No, I mean
that's they don't. They don't play with the lead, they
don't score, they do nothing fast. They got this cool
running back and they got an elite defense. We just
can't lose to the freaking Browns. And I mean going
to the bye week three and two, we lick our wounds.
We get a couple of guys back Cashman after the bye.
I think we might have CJ this weekend. How about
the bounce? CJ Man back in the mix, gazing. We're
(36:48):
getting healthier. I don't know what's up with Van Jinkle's neck.
I'm starting to feel good about this now. I'm starting
to I'm starting to I'm starting to change my face
on this thing. Let's go biggest time of possession. Yeah,
that's that.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
It's been a problem for this football team all year.
It's going to be an issue this weekend. If that's
what that's what Stefanski wants to do. Is own the
football and get off the field. Get off the field.
Get him a third down huge, first down is huge
this week on, get him a second, longs, get him
into third down situation.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
So it's gonna be it's gonna be easy.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
You know, early kegs and eggs, Great Ducks and eggs,
Great Ducks all good. Speaking of Gray Duck, what's good
with grey dock? Yeah, Gray duck man, You know it's
always buzzing over at Great Duck.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
But so we uh we are.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
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We are going to be at the Shackape Bowl down
to Shakap, Minnesota for the game. Watch, so you'll will
see mister Greenway down there eight thirty with some fun
(37:50):
little shenandigans we got going on. So if you're down
in Shockapy area, or you want to make a drive,
you know Shock maybe maybe maybe you stayed all night
at Mystic, you want to come over. It's close, you know,
come uch the game with us. Absolutely, thanks for hanging
out you bet, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
That's Chad Greenway, thanks to Gray Duck at Chad Greenway
five to two via X. You'll hear Pa chat with
Mark Wilf next nine to noon. Other fans welcome back.
Nine to noon. It's Nordowen for Pa, but Pa doing
some workover in London and the first to two conversations
you're going to hear from the nine to noon host
in advance of Sunday's Vikings Browns affair at Tottenham six
(38:26):
thirty am pregame. Vikings Audio Network joins at seven thirty
the Boom Kegs and Eggs Style eight thirty am pump
for all of that. That's right here on your home
for Vikings Football the Fan. But part of two conversations
that he had one with Keena McCardell, Vikings Wide Receivers coach.
You'll hear that next hour. But here he is with
(38:47):
the owner and president of the squad, Mark Wilf.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Hey, welcome back to London and we're happy to be
joined by Minnesota Vikings co owner and team president of
Mark Wilf. In advance of the Vikings and Browns from
Tottenham Hotspur this weekend. Welcome back to London. It's quite
the familiar destination these days.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
It really starts to feel like the home away from home. No,
Dublin was one thing, but now we're kind of in
a familiar place. So we're ready for Sunday.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
How did the end of the equation, you know, it
was historical first regular season NFL game in Dublin into
the equation.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Outside of the result, how did the whole trip work out?
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Well, all the logistics are operations, folks. Our entire staff
did an amazing job and everything worked out smoothly.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Of course, not the results we wanted.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
But you know one thing about coach O'Connell, he's got
them refocused, reshifted, and I feel real good about the
energy coming into this game.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Mark, Why do you think the NFL likes you guys,
the Minnesota Vikings traveling abroad so frequently.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Well, first of all, we do have a great fan base,
and second, we're very supportive of the league the international efforts.
So you know, when they spoke to us about playing
two row games overseas and supporting it, we're all for it.
We're doing marketing in London, We're doing what we can
to promote the game. But We've always had a great
fan base in Europe and it shows and I know
in Tottenham on Sunday we're going to have it as well.
(40:13):
So all that combined, I think the league has come
to us. So saying all that, we got to get
the win on Sunday, what are the benefits to the team, Well,
I mean the benefits it's twofold. You know, from a
football standpoint, these are both road games, so you know
you do take away a little bit of the home field,
(40:33):
although Dublin did feel a little.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Pittsburgh e to us.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
But I know this weekend we're gonna have a lot
of Minnesota there, so that'll be good. And on the
business side, again, we have a lot of corporate sponsors,
we have a lot of people that love the Vikings,
with a big fan fest this weekend in London. We
have a Viking bar that's being set up down by
the London Bridge. So there's a lot of energy and
excitement about the Minnesota Vikings and our brand and what.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
It can bring to the business community as well.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
And you mentioned the worldly nature of Minnesota Vikings fans
and it causes me to hearken to twenty thirteen when
you beat Pittsburgh at Wembley, and you know, like the
night before the game there was music. I can't remember
the name of the band, but your brother was there
for sure, and you could just kind of tell wow.
I mean, like, how does the appeal of the Minnesota
(41:20):
Vikings reach so far? There's so many Vikings fans in Europe. Well,
all of our history. I mean this goes back twenty
thirty years. I think we were playing preseason games in
Scandinavia and all.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
The rest, and you know, the Minnesota Vikings that we
have such a rich history. So we have fans all
over the world. And when you see that purple and
goal over here, it's re energizing. I think the players
feel it as well, and we're going to feel it
this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
And you know, I probably shouldn't mention names here because
when I mentioned a few names, I'm going to leave
some out because of just everything from an operational standpoint
that has gone into this unprecedented back back journey. Chad Lundein,
Paul Martin, malam Burgess, Chuck Peterson operations. Then you get
into Mike Parson and his staff, you get into Tyler
(42:09):
and his staff. There's so much that goes in to
the back to back nature, and it seems like it's
just gone swimmingly.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I mean, thank you for.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Mentioning all those names, because they are all superstars, and
I know Coach feels it as well.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I just spoke to them about it.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I mean, the things that run so smoothly makes the
culture as good as it is in white players and
staff want to be around it, and I think that's
going to bode well for our long term franchise future.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
And that's how you win championships. You have all parts
working smoothly, including the guys you mentioned as as co
owner and president.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I mean that really legitimately has to make you proud,
and I talk about it nine to noon on the
radio too. Where culture can be such a trite and
overused term this day and age, but for somebody like
me and somebody like you, we've been around a couple
of decades.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
You know, we know what bad culture looks like.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You know what authentic culture looks like like it is
now and that's really hard to attain absolutely, and it's
something you know.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
You can pour resources into something, but you need the
right people. And between Quasi and Coach and robres Andsking,
all the people you just mentioned, and Andrew Miller, everybody
pulling together, and you feel it when you're overseas. It
really takes a lot to pull all this together, and
when you have the injuries we've had and every club
goes through it, but you have the recovery setup and
the systems we have. So we're proud of it all
(43:27):
and we're hoping for winning formulas here and last one
or two here with Mark Wilf team president, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Take the boss hat off and put on the fan
hat where you want the team to win every single game.
Do do you have to sometimes like take a step
back and recognize, Wow, look at all these injuries. We've
had to use two quarterbacks, but we still have thirteen left.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
You know, the fan in you, how does it handle it? Well,
I'm taking the coaches Q on this.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
You know you can say but and if all day long,
but we've got to go out and Sunday and do
what we've got to do. And I know he's going
to have them ready and you know you got to
get it done. The NFL is a week by week deal,
and again we do have the roster to get it done.
And I'm proud of how the guys are fighting through
and playing last one.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
The Vikings will head into Sunday's game with their twelfth
offensive line combination. Then they that's just the season. Then
they get the bye after this. Out of that at
home against Philadelphia, now Sunday against Cleveland. Well, their head
coach is Kevin Stefanski, somebody who was with you at
decade and a half. You guys gave him a big
(44:35):
chance with Childress in two thousand and six, the very
early years of your ownership tenure.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
I know you're very fond of him. He's quite good
at what he does. Absolutely, you know Kevin. I mean,
he's been with us since the beginning and we were
very happy, and we knew day one that one day
he was going to be an NFL head coach. He's
that smart, he's got that great personality to work with everybody.
So it'll be a a strange experience see him on
the other sideline. We'll give him a little hug and
(45:03):
wish him well, but you know, we got to win
on Sunday. But he's an amazing person.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, Battle of the Kevin's coming up Sunday. We'll be
pulling for hours. With all due respect, Kevin O'Connell, thank
you very much, Mark, thank you, Pa. Mark Wilf, team
president and co owner of the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Mark Wilf with Pa from London. And yes, of course
we all love Kevin Stefanski, but you know what, we're
going to beat Kevin Stefanski's team on Sunday with Christian Darisaw,
Joe Huber, Blake, Brandell, Will Fries and Justin's school and
we'll continue that conversation in terms of the Vikings and
what it's all gonna look like Sunday at Tottenham with
(45:39):
Alec Lewis of the Athletic. He joins from London. Next
second hour ahead, it's nine to noon on the
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