#92Noon! 9a Hour 11/05 - Parker/Florio

Parker Fox in studio to open the show, and Mike Florio's weekly appearance later to wrap the opening hour!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to the show down Memory Lane. We go.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Home shopping coming.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm drinking till I forget the nineteen ninety nine NFC Championship.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
You've got a big pay with me.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's PA ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm a fan.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Florio. You can write what you want. It's okay, Oh please,
oh my win, today's coming.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Thank you Minneapolis, and thank you everybody outside of Minneapolis
for listening via the free iHeart Audio app.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
This is nine to now and for usual on a Wednesday,
our first guest is one of our dear friends.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
His name is Parker Fox.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Through contact and foul to learn, a trip to the stripe.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Love that set right away there from Medved clearly seeing
the height, the size advantage, going right inside to Jalen
Crocker Johnson, He's gonna get himself too at.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
The follower mmmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Always love when those sir against take steps.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Loose ball us three times now, who's.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
On Who's on the floor again? Shaun z Willis tried
to make plays for his team. I absolutely love the effort.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
First sub here from Minnesota. Langston Reynolds into the game,
replacing Tyson, who gets a nice ovation from this Minnesota crowd.
He's made himself a fan favor here.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Early.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, Gopher fans are gonna love Kate Tyson. Obviously a
score as you see here his one thousandth point. We
were on one thousand watchs. So congrats to Kay Tyson.
One thousand career collegiate points.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Thirty for that, Cad Tyson. Love was in the air.
And this is not a radio show. It's a love covenant.
Always great to see and hear Parker Fox. I love
the aggression here. Lanson Reynolds get caught up on that
ball screen takes it to the rim. I don't know
about the file there. It looks like he was pretty vertical.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I think Jalen Crocker Johnson agrees with me.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
But nonetheless, it's two points going to the free throw line.
A guy in Ace Telbert, he was one for five
from the floor before that, now two for six, searching
for his game. Talking to head coach Jeremy Luthor before
the game, he said that that's a guy that they
need to have his offensive game going if they want
to compete in games like this.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
That was from a Big ten plus on Monday, and
former Golden Gophers basketball player Parker Fox at Parker Fox two.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Four via x joins nine to noon.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Now, Here's how much the Love Covenant loves Parker Fox,
who had a love theme with those three drops we
have secured. Here's how much we love you two secure
said highlights. Mad producer paid fourteen dollars to get into
the system.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
No, yes, yes, yes yes that is too kind And
it was worth every second of it.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And I was, I was.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I started pulling the highlights this morning.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
I listened to some of it last night, and then
I just was jumping around and I realized that there
was a love theme that as you were sitting there
on the hardwood watching your alma mater Face Gardner Webb
and the Running Bulldogs or whatever they're called. Every time
I would jump in like okay, is Parker going to talk? Here?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Is Parker going to talk here?

Speaker 5 (03:45):
It was you love it on somebody like it was
such a positive feel to the opener at the bar,
and so love was in the air. It felt like
during your first time doing the analyst work there, which
was terrific. You did an awesome job. But love certainly
was the theme of the highlights I found this morning.
It was worth every bit of that fourteen dollars charge

(04:06):
that my wife's going to argue with me about later today.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
It seems like it went well for you.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
It did, and I think you're right, nord It was
approach that I wanted to have. I think just being
a fan of you know, analysts work, color commentating work,
and listening to it my whole career. I've always been
passionate and complimentary when when people are giving me compliments, right,
And I think especially on a BTN Plus, where if

(04:31):
you're paying that subscription, you're probably watching for a reason.
You're probably family or friend or loved one watching your
your buddy. So I was trying to give as much
love as I could. I got to continue to work
on maybe some of the other aspects of it. But
that was actually the first time I was hearing it.
It was a busy day yesterday. I was going to
go back and watch it today. But I appreciate you

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guys doing that.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Well.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I got to log in if you need it. Yeah, yeah,
clearly right. Nordo and I live maybe I don't know,
seven eight, nine, ten miles away from each other. But
when I send him the text last night after seven o'clock,
saying need three Parker Fox related highlights from the Gardener
Web game if you can either even find them. I

(05:15):
think I heard the come on from like ten miles away.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Waited, waited.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
It cost me fourteen dollars, but I got the highlights.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
It was the best that Big ten Networks selling an
extra subscription there.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Did Did you wear a suit a size too big?
Kind of like I don't know, the first day of school?

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I always love that one. Well, I think my suit
fit me. It was from my second year at the U.
Obviously I've lost a little bit of weight since then,
so it was probably a little big in the thigh
and buttox region, but nonetheless it still fit me.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
It looks sharp on TV. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Thank you. Did your parents watch? Yeah they did. Yeah.
They were debating if they wanted to.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Come, and I was like, well you should just watch
because you won't be able to hear me if you
come to the game. So they watched on Big Btn.
Plus they bought the log in as well.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So how about Will and the bow tie by the way,
yeah bow tie? And he did a great job on
the call, Yeah he did. He was a student, right,
student at the U. Yes, these btan plus Peterson, that's
correct job.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
He's a he's a Hermantown kid, and uh, you know
they get these opportunities with the BTN plus to the students,
and you know, after his first media time out, he's like, daesh,
I'm not I'm not doing very well. And then he
caught a flow and he whispered to me in the
talk back, He's like, I'm in the flow state. So
just one of those things where he was doing a thing,
but it was it was just a lot of.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Fun Hermantown and basketball. Usually the Hermantown vibe is hey shoots,
he score it to the corner right as a whole
careening around the board. That word, did you the I mean,
I shouldn't even have to ask this, but the assumption is,
I mean, of course you comped the banker to court side, right,

(06:58):
exactly what business Kate Tyson at thirty Kate Tyson tell
us about Kate Tyson.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah, he's he's a stud I think obviously you're going
to get into the regular season and you're gonna have longer,
stronger wing defenders in the Big Ten guarding him. You're
gonna have better scouts and game plans, but he's the
focal point of their offense right now. Talking to head
coach Nico Medved, they love where he's at. Offensive. He's
a three level scorer. He's shooting the ball really well
from three. Just two years ago at Belmont he shot

(07:26):
it from forty seven percent from three on five and
a half attempts a game, So you talk about a
legitimate three point shooter. And then he gets to the rim.
He can hang in the air, he can finish, he
can finish through contact. He can get on the rim
and throw it, dunk down and then the mid range
something we haven't seen yet, but I've seen it in practice.
He can come off ball screens and knock down the
little midie. So I truly think he's a He's a
three level scorer. He's very calm, he's very composed, composed.

(07:48):
He doesn't get too high too low, and that's something
you look for as a head coach.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Jalen Crocker Johnson with a double double. Yeah, he was
hosted about him. He's a beast on the reboard, on
the rebounding boards. First play of the game, Nico set
up kind of a it's basically a false action so
he's kind of fake cutting and then he flips his
hits and seals the defender.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
They went right inside to him early. He's got a
good size advantage at the fore position. He's strong, he's athletic,
he defends really well. But I think the best part
of his game is rebounding, and that's going to be keys.
As you know, Pa the Big Ten, there's some big
boys down there, and when you have to go up
against Trey Kauffman, wren oscar Clough, Daniel Jacobson of Purdue,
like some of these guys, they're going to have the

(08:28):
height advantage vertically. But if you can box them out,
if you can move them, if you can separate space,
you're gonna have the opportunity to rebound. That's something he's
gonna be able to do just with his size and physicality.
With with the new coach and Niko medved What what's what?
What are what's realistic?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
When it comes to totally a turnaround that A is
a turnaround. B it's a terrific turnaround. C Wow, it's
it's a turnaround that captures potentially the imagination of the nation.
Like like with Kate Tyson and Jalen Crocker, Johnson and
some others and stuff like that. We're talking transfers. We're

(09:06):
talking winning recruiting battles within this state. Yeah, like what
do you see?

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, I think as we know, as Minnesota fans and
people that are listening.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
No go for hoops.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
You don't have the nil budget that you might have
at Purdue or Indiana or Illinois and some of these schools.
So you have to find ways to get mid major
guys that have been successful at their last spots, their competitors.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
They're guys that want to win.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
But I think there's also a sense of pride and
guys that want to be there, you know what I mean.
So there's so many guys that are kind of too
cool for school and Hey, I'm at Kentucky and I
can just you know, show up and I'm a five star.
I'm gonna get drafted. They don't want those guys in Minnesota.
They want guys that are going to get on the
ground for loose balls. They're gonna be gritty, they're gonna
play hard, and I think that's what Nico Medved found
in the transfer portal. So to answer your question, I

(09:52):
think the ceiling obviously would be making the Big Ten Tournament.
I don't think this is a team that has a
talent to win the Big Ten Tournament or or or
win games into March. But I also believe that they
have enough to be competitive throughout the Big Ten regular
season and hopefully sneak some on the road and protect
home court.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
A dumb question.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
While I was watching You and Will last night, I
think you said something like maybe one or two players
had followed Nico from Colorado State.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, just one? What was that surprising at all?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Or is that more natural to the existence of the
portal or was it a senior hit laden roster, et cetera.
As Nico came to Minnesota. Was that was that a surprise?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Not really. I think there was a big senior presence.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Colorado State also did hire their assistant coach, so I
think that was a yeah. And I'm gonna mess his
name up, but Ali Frocamesh, so.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think some I think Mohammad been Rushing. Wow, that's
a name.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
But nonetheless, they they did have some seniors, a heavy
senior class. They had a kid drafted to the Sacramento Kings. Yeah,
and make Clifford Clifford yet, Bro, when he's not heard,
he's a ball, he's a stud.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Can we get some Clifford's here, Oh, we definitely can.
And I think that Nee Clifford is the exact kind
of guy that Nico Medved wants to recruit. He wants
to recruit positionless type of players. If you watched his
offense the other night, it's almost positionless. The only position
that is true is the center position that initiates the
high post entry stuff. But to answer your question, Nordo,

(11:23):
I think it's a mix of a little bit of everything.
But if there's a guy that you wanted to get
to come with him, it is Jalen Crocker Johnson's He's
just very versatile. He understands Nico's offense, and you can
tell it's evident that he's really a leader out there
on the court trying to get guys in the right
spots because he knows what's going on.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
And I think Gopher fans are gonna love him based
on what I heard on the call last night.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
So I'm excited for jc J. Let's go there, you go, man,
They love They definitely are. He's he can shoot it too,
like I think you look at him and you look
at his numbers over the past couple of years, and
you think he operates inside, Like I think he hit
three or four threes in the exhibition game, so he
can stretch it outside and he's really effective in all
facets of the game. But like I said, rebounding is
going to be something that he needs to do because
I think they're gonna have to go small ball with

(12:03):
him at the five a little bit, just with their
center depth and Robert Vjola is gonna he's vertically challenged
a little bit. Only six eight, you're gonna you're gonna
see a couple seven footers in the big ten, So
there's gonna be a couple of fouls there. And where
do you go next? I think you go small with
JCJ at the five. When's your next one? Next one
is November fifteenth, Yeah, against I think that's the Gattlib game.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I think that's the Green Bay game. Hey yea, Doug Gottlieb. Yeah.
Is that like four years there for him now? Yeah?
Third or fourth year? Yeah, third or fourth year.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
So do be fun to go to that shoot around
and chop it up with him and learn a little
bit about his roster and where he sees his program going.
And then my athletic director at Northern State out of
high school, that's where I first went to school before
I chansered to you is now the athletic director at
Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
So it'll be fun to see Josh Moon as well.
You have a Minnesota Green Bay border battle. Let's go
going to be able to control yourself. I'm gonna I'm
gonna have to keep all packer thoughts out of my head,
all right. Russo Radio joins at ten clock today Russo Radio, uh,
covering the Minnesota Wild writing about hockey ten o'clock nine
to noon today. You happen to know where Michael Russo

(13:08):
is right now?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Do I? Yeah, can tell you.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
He's in Cleveland for Taylor's practice. Is fantastic. He's in
Cleveland for the rivalry series the USA and Canada.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, that's where I should be.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Wild lost a few games in a row, and suddenly
he's covering.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
He's found other interests. The NHL network. That's fun, that's exciting. Yeah,
they got there. They got the game tomorrow night. Yeah,
tomorrow night on NHL Networks.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
She's fired up. Fun and then they go to Buffalo
in Edmonton for two.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's correct. And I think Russo Radio. Russo Radio is
covering this. That's fantastic. He's he's pre eminent. I mean,
he's the best elite beat writing mind totally. And he's
in Cleveland, where I think there. I got this in
the Russo mix. I think there are seven Minnesotans on
the USA roster something like that sounds right, And and
I'm going to guess Wisconsin Badgers women's hockey is either

(14:04):
one or two in the country one it's one, right, Yeah,
they're ridiculous, okay, because I'm looking at these rosters, and
then you got like Minnesota Frost, Taylor Heising, Minnesota Frost,
I'm winkle panic, all that, all that.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
But then you got at least three.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Five, five Avin McNatt and the goalie for USA for USA.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, five Badgers, he's a Badger.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Wisconsin Badger women player KK Harvey's the best defender in
the world, Layla Edwards who's another really good defender. And
then you've got Lacey Eden and Kirsten Simms, two really
good forward. So yeah, that's five right there that are
current Wisconsin Badger players playing for the US national team.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Ten o'clock today could be some Taylor Heisey conversation. The
Wolves are at Cat tonight. Yeah, without Anthony Edwards, what's three.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
It's just fun, right, It's it's fun for Cat to
questionable playing that Gizzy. He's been upgraded game day decisions,
so that could be something we see. I'm sure he
wants to play good News, Yeah, Karl Anthony Towns Madison
Square Garden like it's it's the biggest stage. I think
if you know Anthony Edwards, he wants to play in
those moments, So I think if he's healthy, he goes
that's a cat game, and it's a cat game exactly.

(15:12):
Julius Randall has looked amazing doing it on all levels.
Had a triple double the other night, averaging twenty six
shooting at about fifty six percent from the floor. He's
been awesome, but still has Jalen Brunson just a point
shy of thirty a game. I think the Knicks are
going to be favored, especially without Anthony Edwards, but if
Ant does play, that's a that's a Pickham game and
it's going to be a really fun one.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
What are you seeing with de Vincenzo guiding the point.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah, I tweeted it after the first game, and I
got a lot of hate for saying that, you know,
give some patience, we're going to see Dante at the point.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
He's going to be okay. And turns out I was
kind of right. He flipped it around.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
He figured out what it's gonna take to be an
NBA point guard somewhere where he's been more of a
backup type of point guard role, filling sparing minutes for
elite guards like Jalen Brunson when he was in New York,
and now he's filling minutes for Mike Conley here in Minnesota.
So I think it's going to take continue more time
and he's going to develop into a better passer. But

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look at his score in the other past couple of games.
He's been electric from three, and that's exactly what you
need from him on a team that doesn't have the
most three point shooting. With aut Anthony Edwards in the game, Yeah,
you can go to Terren Shannon to make a couple.
Maybe Jayde and Daniels will make a couple in the
corner and Noasrieto hit one or two. But the three
point ball is a separator. Shooting wins games, and Dante's
been doing it at a high level.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
How how different could that look though, now that Anthony
Edwards is nearing return, does that really impact I mean,
how much does it impact anything?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I think I think it definitely impacts things.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Right, Like the past two games are at Charlotte at Brooklyn,
those are two just terrible teams. You're going to win
those games kind of whoever you throw out on the court.
But Dante goes for twenty five in that game and
shoots it pretty well from three. He hit six three,
He's six for thirteen in that game, so that he's
not I'm not going to take thirteen threes when Anthony
Edwards is in the game. Anthony's going to probably take

(17:03):
the ball and have a little bit more usage rate there.
But I do think you still need volume. You still
need him to be that forty six percent three point
shooter making shots because I think that makes you a
better team when when you have more than just one
guy making three pointers and Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
What's your read on Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Nor To asked me a question yesterday about Rudy Gobert
and I thought about it for a second, and I
took it to the postseason last year, where I'm like,
expectations for Rudy Gobert's big games or solid games, or
games where his minutes may be dramatically down. Is kind
of like the postseason last year where you're going to

(17:40):
have a series against I don't know, the Lakers or
Golden State or whatever, and you might have some twenty
four twenties with three blocks, you know, but then you
hook a team like Oklahoma City and he might be
playing eighteen minutes a game in certain situations. So, just
like from this year for Brooklyn, I thought Gobert, specially
in the first half, look really good. Nick Claxton is

(18:03):
kind of a true center. He's athletic, but he's a
true center. The Knicks use Mitchell Robinson sparingly.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah he's game time decision tonight as well.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, yeah, he's a game time decision the minute the
schedule comes out. Karl Anthony Towns is a stretch for
as they say in the business, which means that's probably
Jaden McDaniel's money. So like tonight, what do you do
with somebody like go Beart in a game like this, Yeah,
you know what I mean what you mean time specific.
I love that you brought up.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Oklahoma City, right, because that's the team we need to
beat if we want to play in an NBA finals.
And you look at that team and you talk Chet Holmgren.
He can stretch it out. That's a tough guard for
Rudy Gobert. Maybe he mixes up with Hartenstein a little
bit more because he doesn't stretch it as well.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
But I think you're right.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
This Knicks team, they go small with Kat at the
five a little bit too. That's a tough matchup for
Gobert because he can't guard in space. We saw what
Luca did to him to win that game in Target
Center a couple of years ago. I want more from Rudy, though.
I think his rebounding numbers are down almost two minus
two rebounds a game from his career. I think he's
eleven point seven in his career. He's only nine point

(19:08):
nine this year, so at his height that that's got
to be a little better. But what he does that
a lot of people don't see is he impacts whether
people go in the lane and try to finish inside
or not. When he's in there, when he's truly playing good,
solid help side defense, you don't see as much paint pressure.
You see more perimeter kind of style of offense that
goes unnoticed. There's not a stat for that, so you

(19:29):
have to appreciate that. But at the same time, when
you have mismatches like a guy like a carnth new talents,
it's going to be fun to see what he can
do off the ball with Karl Anthony Towns to night
if he can still help but then recovery to three
point shooting, which Kat does at a really high level.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
You happen to see any sports related highlights from last
night last night?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
What was going on last week?

Speaker 3 (19:48):
If you had Duke Texas at the NBA, you had
the NHL Wild win and overtime, that was a fun one.
After stam Cos with a bomb ties the sucker with
point three to go.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
They need to create like a T. Tucker rule in
the NHL, so we I mean we need at least
zero point four seconds to get a shot off.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
It feels like, right that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
But in the NBA, the Bulls beat the Philadelphia seventy
six ers at the wire. Josh Giddy penetrated just made
a phenomenal left handed pass, giddy love from under the
basket out to the corner three in front of a
bench to Vusevich, who won it, all right, and then

(20:29):
all the baby bulls go crazy. So let me ask
you this, who would you rather have and why? Josh
Giddy or Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I mean, it's Jalen, but Josh had twenty nined fifty
to twelve last night was just elite.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
But you have to go with Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
He's he's done it in the clutch minutes, He's he's
done it in the playoffs. He truly does look like
a top five point guard in the NBA. Right that
giddy passing and rebounding is getting to you, though, isn't it?
That's getting to me because because Jalen doesn't give you that, right,
So I think it's it's it's obviously different from from
what team you need, from what you need from the team,
But I think all in all, you got to.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Go, all right, what about this? Who would you rather have?
And why?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Shake Gildes Alexander Yeah? Or Cooper Flag and the conk nipple?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Oh give me Cooper and Cohn over? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Really yeah, I do. I'm such a Cooper I'm such
a Cooper Flag guy. It's it's ridiculous and he better
get going one of these days. I mean, he's okay,
he's well, he's playing out a position right now. He's
having to play a little bit more point guard. They
need to continue to just play D'Angelo Russell and let
Cooper play his natural position. People are claiming to him
just when Delos bad.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Seen enough of that, have you? Yes?

Speaker 4 (21:49):
But no, I think Cooper Flag people are calling him
running dunk a little bit. I don't think that's true
at all. He just hasn't found his shooting stroke. He'll
be fine. kN K Nipple Elite had twenty and twelve.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Last night and Brandon Miller down. Yeah. Ca Nipple is
spreading his wings and soaring. Oh, definitely great. And there's
no hate on Shay right Like Shay.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Is has found a way and I've talked about it
on this radio show. He's found a way to play
the game at a jokic level where you simply are
understanding the game better than anybody else in the arena.
Like he's completely slowed it down. It's like he's playing
in slow motion. He's the best of the best. He
can win MVP again this year, so it's hard to
say no to him.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
But I love Duke.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I love those two boys, and I think it would
be fun to see them back together again.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Anthony Edwards or Luka doncic Man, that's such a tough one.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
It's Edwards because of the defense.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
It's yeah, it is, but luca Is is generational.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
There's there's nobody like him.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
There was Anthony agree and and that's I still it's
still just absolutely blows my mind that Dallas did what
they did and traded him because he's he's a one
in a generation, He's one one in a life time
type of talent.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
But but you're right, so is Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
And where wolves guys were, Howell raised and I would
go with Anthony Edwards six out of the seven days
of the week.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
So you're saying Cooper Flag is running the point a
fair amount for Dallas because it's Russell comes off the
bench and he may play twenty five minutes, he might
play nine. And Clay Thompson the times I've watched has
has run some point in an awkward fashion, and because
of that, his numbers are down, like it's three point
shooting is down and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Lively's hurt, Gafford just came back.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
It just seems that, you know, And the reason I'm
making this Dallas fan line is I think if and
or whin Kyrie Irving comes back and they keep him
a one piece, yeah, that team could be a handful
in the postseason, but they got to get to the
postseason first.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well, if you look at their depth chart, their starting
point guard is Cooper Flag with a backup in Brandon
Williams and now third string and D'Angelo Russell. Wow, Clay Thompson,
like you mentioned, it's hard to watch when he's at
the point guard.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
That's not his natural thing.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
He hit what he scored thirty seven points on four
dribbles once in his career.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's not that's not what a point guard does.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
The teams are picking him up, yeah, just like and
then now all of a sudden you get set and
there's eight on.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
The shock block. Yeah. But PJ.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Washington's been their key piece for Dog just an app Yeah,
Dog's a great way to describe him. He does it
on both ends, especially with no Anthony Davis and Derek
Lively right now.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Two guys that that hold down that Philly's Yeah, he's hurt.
So four and five spot.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
A are empty vacant for Dallas, but Pj's definitely stepped up.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
But they have pieces.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Najie Marshall's a great piece, Dwight Howell's a great piece,
Caleb Martin's a solid piece. I played with Cam Christy,
his brother Max Christie there in Dallas as well. So
you're putting a lot on a kid in Cooper Flagg
to go play the point guard position, which he probably
hasn't played in years, probably since youth basketball days, to
go do it in the NBA without two bigs in

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Anthony Davis and Derek Lively to help set screens and
free you up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
So I think there's a lot on his plate.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
They're only two and five bad Star, but they got
to get guys healthy, especially Kyrie Irving. That'll help Cooper
fly out a lot. Think about what Kyrie Irving can
do to help Cooper fly No. G's and day type
of situation. Last one on the who and Why, and
then we'll say goodbye.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Joel Embiid or LaMelo Ball. They're both out everything. They're
both always they like play and then they're gone for
a week and.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
You just play.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, you just see Joelle just like he didn't win
that MVP what two three years ago and that was
his last chance. I think his career trajectory is not
going the way you watch.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
LaMelo ball is hard to watch.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
LaMelo ball is hard to watch, but the stuff he
does from just a peer like Hooper standpoint is like
next level Joel Emid's going to get you these gross
thirty point games where he's just laying things in and
he's followed baiting in the whole deal.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
LaMelo's twitch, Yeah, it's phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
It's ridiculous, and I think he's a super underrated passer.
So I think if you had to pick right now,
I would go with LaMelo ball, just because the point
guard is such a such a good position in the NBA.
You need a solid one.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
And last time, we'll see you this week, Ravens at
Vikings emptying your notebook.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'll fired up.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I just remember watching Louisville games back in the day
and just seeing what Lamar can do. And now you're
watching him pass the ball. The way he's passing the ball,
I think fourteen touchdowns, one interception. He's really figured it out.
Mark Andrews back healthy. I think that's going to help
him out a lot. Rashad Bateman was one of my
personal friends at the U and that athletes only cafeteria, Dan,

(26:32):
you'll follow Leile another one on that offensive line. It's
going to be a test. But I was really really
excited with the way the defense played last game. I
think if you carry that over coming back home, if
you're able to do that, if you're able to put
pressure on Lamar, I'm sure there's going to be a spy, right.
I think Blake Cash is probably going to have his
eyes on number eight at all times. And then you

(26:54):
got to stop the run. That's something that's obviously very
important for this Vikings team. They didn't do it very
well in LA, but they did it well last game
in Detroit. Derrick Henry's a monster, but if you can
stop him, you shut down a lot of the things
they want to do, and then you got to score
the ball. JJ looked really confident, and I think this
offense is starting to click a little bit. So I
got Vikings in a class one. Let's go twenty seven
twenty four.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
School terrific work Monday, great debut, and the fifteenth will
be even better. Let's go and we will see you
next Monday. Okay, love you too. That's Parker Fox at
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Speaker 3 (28:15):
Now nine to now never pounded the fist for the
Minnesota Vikings to trade. All Right, the NFL trading deadline
has coming gone. Actually, like mad producer and I text
a lot, and I can't say from either one of
us that ever came up like vikings and trades and
what do you think of this? Norda's more inquisitive than me, naturally,

(28:37):
or at least at this stage of our lives. And
not even a single like quote, Hey, Hockinson has two
tds the last twenty regular season games, what do you
think they could get for TJ.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Hockinson?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Like, not even anything like that, nothing with any of
that with at least us two.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Why Why?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's because we like the team and it's jj season
and we endured sixteen different O line quintets. No gink
is on fire for five of them, no Addison for
three of them. You almost lose a game in London
because of a wire, and we're supposed to break up
this band, so that that never really was on the

(29:23):
minds of the nine to noon tandem. New funny when
when the tension heads the way of fifty one, fifty
eight and forty three Cashman, Grenard and Van Ginkle, what
happens to Javon Hargrave. Two games with those guys and
he has three sacks and a million pressures. Javon Hargrave

(29:43):
two games with Cashman, Grenard and Van Ginkole and we
got three sacks. We like our squad and it's jj
season again. Should be fascinating every every week as the
twenty two year old franchise quarterback grows. But he was,
he was so in control in the Motor City. What

(30:04):
should the expectation be for Sunday? That's that's where the
focus of nine to Noon went, as opposed to like
who's available for trade and how much would you have
to give up to get somebody? So nothing really on
the trade front here, but but there certainly are some
vibes from an NFL trade deadline day yesterday on which

(30:26):
we can open him. But first, first, FIEJ we'll call
it fie HA. Fairness and host act picked a really
good day yesterday to say stars won't get moved because
teams like holding on to them, And then Sauce Gardner
perceived star at least in my estimation, Sauce Gardner and
Quinn Williams get moved. Jacoby Myers ain't a star all right.

(30:50):
Raven's got Draymond Jones on Monday. He has four and
a f sacks this year for the Titans. He's a
defensive end and is pretty tough. He'll be in the
Mixed Sunday for his Ravens debut. Sauce and Quinnon and
stars like. I've never been as infatuated with Sauce Gardner
as much as most are, but always have been in

(31:12):
love with Quinn Williams. Now Sauce goes to Indy to
help a middling defense and for a team sensing the
AFC is wide open this year. Our defense, I make
that our offense is high end, so let's pedal to
first and make a run. I mean that's what That's
clearly what Indianapolis Colts management looked at is, let's get

(31:37):
Sauce Gardner. Let's give up two first round picks with
Jonathan Taylor and Pittman Junior and Ty Warren, who's fantastic,
A very nice offensive line, especially with Quentin Nelson playing
the way he is a left guard these days.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Great.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Okay, so they do that with Sauce Gardner, But how
about Dallas? And Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk dot
Com joins around the corner, how about Dallas?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I don't understand it personally.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well, it's when they made the moves they did it
caused me to think back to Monday because Jerry Jones.
I think Jerry, now, knowing what we know with the
trading deadline gone, I think Jerry Jones lost that game
for the.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Dallas Cowboys on Monday night.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
And here's why because he shared the day of that game,
that Arizona game, that because he has to splash, he
has to be the center of attention, and he shared
that he's going to be trading. The Cowboys are going
to trade, and then he's like, they already had one
done yep for a guy who can start right now,

(32:42):
and didn't offer any names. Well, that ended up being
Logan Wilson, the leading tackler for the Cincinnati Bengals, so
off that before the Monday night football game, he probably
thought they'd run through a wall to not be the
guy traded, when in turn, they were out to lunch
all night, a brain boggled bunch of Cowboys, and it

(33:06):
went the other way that they were distracted and honestly
never were in the game as a home team against Arizona.
So now they have a new they have a new
green dot in Logan Wilson from Sincy and didn't pay
much to get him.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Don't mind that.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Then yesterday Jerry Moves a twenty twenty six second round
pick and a twenty twenty seven first for Quality stock
in Jets defensive tackle Quinn Williams. The Cowboys are three
five and one in a division they can't win. Just
think about that. Teams with losing records don't usually make

(33:43):
moves like this. Let's uh, let's let's bet that out
and unpack it with Mike Florio PFTX, Mike Florioprofootball Talk
dot Com, NBC's Football Night in America and an author
of US several books, joins us now and Mike. When
the with the Minnesota Vikings getting healthy at Ford Field
and Pauline truly one of the at least points spread wise,

(34:04):
bigger upsets of the season, What did you make of it?

Speaker 6 (34:08):
And good morning, well, good morning, Paul, Good to be
with you. I was pleasantly surprised, maybe I should say
pleasantly stunned by what the Vikings were able to do.
They went back to Ford Field after that Week eighteen
game last year, where the Lions were basically the same
team that they had been in Week eighteen and the
Vikings very different. JJ McCarthy with his third NFL start,

(34:31):
and really more pressure than any quarterback has had on
him this season, maybe in multiple seasons when you consider
everything that had piled up from the do we keep
Sam Darnold, do we keep Daniel Jones? Do we bring
in Aaron Rodgers? What are we going to do with
the deadline? If there should be a face plant by
JJ McCarthy in Detroit, should we bring Kirk Cousins home?

(34:55):
At least it had to be on the edge of
the radar screen as a possibility. So he had to
show that he could get through a game like that,
not just healthy, but effective enough to keep it close,
keep it respectable, keep it as something other than the
national embarrassment that we saw thirteen days ago in LA
thirty seven to ten, where I think even the most

(35:16):
ardent supporter would have to look at that and say, well,
this season's over. What are we going to do next year?
And to see JJ McCarthy step up in that situation
and remain calm and confident and determined and poised that
third down play I think was the most critical play
of his career so far, and it showed number one,

(35:37):
a confidence in and willingness to trust him with the
game in his hands, and to throw the ball not
to Justin Jefferson or Jordan Addison, but to Jalen Naylor.
I think was also an added boost and benefit. And
it worked, and it's the kind of thing that will
make people believe. The stuff that made people believe at

(35:58):
the end of Week one, that got raced six nights
later against Atlanta, and then we haven't seen him for
seven weeks, so he really needed to re establish himself.
And what a test, what a moment, And let's see
where it goes from here, just like the aftermath of
Week one, Let's see where it goes from here.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Fair with McCarthy, did you sense things slowed down for him?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
It just looked more natural for the most part.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
Well, I never sens panic, and we always look for panic.
Can we see panic? And players like and I don't
want to pick on him, but this is the most
obvious current example because he's making fifty three million per
year to a Tonkabaila. When the play isn't there or
when it doesn't unfold the way it's supposed to, what
do we see? We see panic in the demeanor. I'm
a big proponent of studying very carefully the vibe coming

(36:47):
off of a quarterback during and after a play and
during a game when things may not be going well.
What messages are being sent by the facial expressions, the
things that are being said, the body language, because that's
the guy every one's watching on the sideline, out on
the field, in the huddle. What kind of confidence is
being exuded or not from the player. So I think

(37:10):
the demeanor was impressive. The confidence was there, and he
had full faith in his ability to do what Kevin
O'Connell needed him to do in order to execute a
game plan that worked. And they had the right plan
on both sides of the ball. And it helps when

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the defense guess is right as to how to go
about attacking a Jared Goff. Pressure up the middle, get
him off the spot. That's a guy who had to
mention Kirk Cousins again. You know we've seen this. When
the walls close in, what happens. There are certain quarterbacks
who can make things happen when the walls close in,
and there are some who can't. And so if you
make Jared Goff move, if you put pressure in his face,

(37:55):
things are different. And hey, look it wasn't easy and
that first drive, Lions did the hot night through butter
thing right down the field. They had that fourth down play,
fourth and four and they you know, they popped it
into seven points and it was like, oh, here we go. Yeah.
And that's the circumstance that JJ McCarthy had when he
went out on the field for the first time for

(38:16):
a game in Michigan since his last Michigan home game
against Ohio State two years ago. I thought it was incredible.
But if we learned nothing from week one, it's that
it can all change when you come home and you know,
face a hot Ravens team that could easily neutralize any

(38:37):
positivity coming out of last Sunday's game.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
And I'm glad you went there to close on the
local team. The Ravens are favored by three and a
half or four at Minnesota and against pretty much the
same Vikings team that just beat Detroit. I mean, I
guess Aaron Jones maybe a little dicey into this game,
but it seems like it's more positive than negative, and
all the others should play.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
It's what do you think of the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I mean, that's three and a half or four on
the road, that's a big number.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Well, look, they were decisive favorites the week they were
coming out of their buy against the Chicago Bears, and
Lamar Jackson didn't play in that game. So the Ravens
are a talented team. And as we were focused on
Lamar Jackson's health, the reality is the defense got healthy
and the Ravens are a very good team, and they've
weathered their storm of injuries and adversity and they're now

(39:27):
ready to try to make a move. But I don't
think it's quite the easy check mark that people are saying.
After the Ravens beat the Dolphins twenty eight to six
last Thursday night, the analysts are all looking at the
upcoming schedule for the Ravens and I say, win win,
win win, win win win win win. They like, who whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. Let's not put that w against the Vikings

(39:48):
in Permanent inc just yet, because that's not going to
be an easy game for either team. It could go
down to the wire, it could come down to a
field goal, who knows, But it's not going to be
an easy game for the Ravens an easy game for
the Vikings. In Mike Tomlin, the Steelers coach, said something
that should be another one of his T shirt slogans
because it makes so much sense and it crystallizes what

(40:10):
happened for the Steelers in two home games. On a
Sunday night against the Packers and then the following Sunday
against the colt you go from drinking wine to squashing
grapes pretty quickly. In the NFL and NFL games come
down to a handful of moments five plays over the
course of sixty minutes of football, and whether you win
or lose those moments really goes a long way toward

(40:32):
determining whether you win or lose the game, regardless of
the final score. A key moment only, I mean, look
at the Chargers game. If the replay standard had been
applied as designed, clear and obvious, that's a touchdown by
Isaiah Rodgers on the opening drive of the game, and
that game takes on a different vibe the rest of
the way. So those moments really do matter. And the

(40:53):
Vikings made the moments go their way against the Lions,
and whoever makes those those those key handful of moments
go there way on Sunday is going to win the
game Between Baltimore and Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
P f T.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Green Bay has to be the most up and down
team in the NFL at the midway point, I lose
to Meagan and at home, and at home is massive favorites.
You you lose to Carolina, you beat the Lions, your
Crossya Roger at Pittsburgh Football Knight in America. Why do
you think that that is with them? Absolutely? You know,

(41:26):
at least through eight playing to the level of the competition.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I think one of.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
The problems is and I hate to say it, because
I have always felt bad for Jordan Love. He's the
one guy who didn't ask to be thrust into the
middle of the Aaron Rodgers Green Bay Packers front office drama,
and he was a good soldier for three years. He
did everything they asked him to do. He was drafted
into that situation and he had a very impressive back

(41:54):
half of the twenty twenty three season. It earned him
the contract that he signed last year. And then last
year he had the injury in Week one, and I
think he's got a stubbornness about playing through injury when
maybe he shouldn't. And I think his injuries impaired his
performance last year. But boy, he had some moments this
year where game on the line, time for a big throw,

(42:15):
had that interception against the Browns that opened the door
to the upset. Not making the big throws in the
big moments, not having that ability to deliver. I talk
about those five plays per game. When one of those
five plays for the Packers is Jordan Law has got
to go out and make a big throw. What do
we see? You know, he had that interception that was
kind of thrown up for grabs against the Panthers, and

(42:36):
I just wonder, is he a guy you can rely
on in a big spot. And it's a fair question.
And you know what's hovering over this whole Packers thing.
Even though their record is very good, they were the
one seed in the NFC entering the game against the Panthers,
the game they should have easily won in theory, and
before the season, the new team president at policy said, hey,
we'll take up the question of whether or not we

(42:57):
extend Matt Lafour the head coach, and brag good. It's
the GM after the season, and if they don't get
these deals after the season, they enter next year lame ducks,
and who knows what that policy's going to do. It's
no different than having a new owner for a team.
And when you get a new owner, what's the new
owner want because the people who were in place weren't

(43:18):
hired by that owner. It's no different than when you
get a new GM what does that person want by
way of a coach? When you get a new coach,
what does that person want by way of a quarterback?
And the futures of both Guta, Kunston Laflor could be
hinging on what happens the rest of the way, and
it just feels like it's teetering and to go either way,

(43:38):
especially without Tucker Kraft, that's a massive hit because he's
a very reliable target, productive tight end. They're going to
have to move on without him. They got to find
a way to win games, and they have to win
games convincingly. They've had games this year where they look
like the team they were supposed to be, like when
they beat the Lions Week one, they beat the Commanders.
On the short week, they beat the Steelers. But they've

(44:00):
had some moments those two losses and that tie to
the Cowboys, it's like, what what's really going on with
this team? So they got the Lions again coming up.
They got the Vikings twice. You know, it's it's it's
going to be a fight for them each and every week,
and we've got to see more from that offense. We've
got to see more from Jordan Love.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
You mentioned the Cowboys a couple of clothes here with
Mike Florio Pro Football Talk dot Com. The Cowboys are
three to five and one, and I think with no
chance to win their division. You have Jerry Jones is
trading first and seconds and making big trades, and that
Monday distraction that did them no favors against Arizona.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Right, what Monday distraction?

Speaker 1 (44:40):
He went and.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Said that we will be trading and we already have
one done for a starter who can play immediately. So,
I mean, I just know how locker rooms work, man.
I mean, when you do things like that that you
may think it'll be like, all right, they're going to
run through a wall for us. Now, now it went
the other way. They were brain boggled and they had

(45:01):
no idea what their their owner, slash GM was talking about.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
Well that assumes that they even hear what he says.
I think Dak Prescott at some point over the past
few years said, I just tuned this guy out, and
I think that's what the locker room has to do.
And I asked you which distraction, because there were multiple
distractions from Jerry Jones when he appeared with Steven A.
Smith on SiriusXM on Monday, and one thing Jones did,

(45:27):
he said what I've believed for years now. He's a
carnival barker, he's a huckster, he's a snake oil salesman.
He wants the team to be relevant. And he said,
when things get slow, I'll stir the sh dash t.
He said that, and he knows that this is all
part of a game, it's part of a grift. It's

(45:47):
about getting people interested in his team. And look at
what he's done. You could argue that the fact that
they have been able to continue to generate massive audiences,
they continue to be the team that every network wants
on it to airwaves because people watch even though they
haven't played in an NFC championship game in thirty years.
In the first thirty years of the Super Bowl, they

(46:09):
played in the game to get to the super Bowl
sixteen times. In the next thirty years of the Super
Bowl zero times, and They're still a hot commodity because
of Jerry Jones, and he prioritizes that over winning. Now.
He tried to argue the other day, I don't think
anything I've ever said has kept us from scoring a touchdown. Well,
there's no bright line connecting the two. But his approach

(46:30):
and his attitude and his desire to make things interesting
and to keep the team relevant that supersedes good football decisions.
And maybe these trades that were made yesterday for Logan Wilson,
and I mean a guy that was benched by one
of the worst defenses we've seen in recent years, I
don't know that that's going to help. All due respect
to Logan Wilson, I mean, if you can't get on

(46:51):
the field for one of the worst defenses we've seen
in recent years, I don't know how much you're going
to help another one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
In this Quinn Williams trade, I don't know that that
helps them to give up a first round pick, a
second round pick, and a player to get Quinn Williams.
But it's about making the Cowboys relevant and doing something.
You know, there's a game brewing in twenty two days

(47:12):
late afternoon on Thanksgiving where the Cowboys and the Chiefs
are getting together. That's going to be the most watched
regular season game in NFL history. And hey, Jerry had
to do something, I think to keep that train on
the tracks.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
That's the problem.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
That's what it comes down to. And that's what happens
when you buy a team and you make yourself the GM.
Think about that. That was all pre internet, pre the
current state of sports talk radio, and there's constant analysis
and scrutiny. No one could get away from that. Now.
You know, if I would somehow stumble into a one
hundred billion dollar underground natural gas reserve, which Jerry did

(47:50):
last week, and of course he said, that's why I'm
talking to you and not trying to make my crappy
defense better. But if I would be able to buy
a team and made myself the GM, like who and
the hell would accept that? I've got no credentials to
be the GM, And today the only credentials he has
is he's done it for thirty six years. Well, you know,
if you do a job you're not fit to do

(48:11):
and you're not qualified to do for thirty six years,
does that make you any more qualified. I don't know,
but that's the reality. He should take some of that
hundred billion and hire a real general manager. And if
you're going to sit up in the suite and sit
with Stephen A. Smith and be a glorified fan, then
do that. If you're going to be the GM, you
got to set aside this idea that you're out here saying,

(48:33):
step right up, ladies and gentlemen, boys of girls, boys
and girls, children of all ages, and come watch the
great Dallas Cowboys do their thing. You got to separate
those two positions. And I think that's one of the
reasons why they haven't been to an NFC championship in
thirty years, because the guy that is out there marketing
the team is also building the team, and I think
those two jobs do not mesh.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Lastly, you know, I don't love Sauce Gardner. I like
him a lot, maybe because he's a but Indie pedals
those two first for that corner. The Eagles and Ravens
knew they needed pass rush, went out and got some. Uh,
this could be a very wide open year with Super
Bowl representation. I mean, nobody, nobody's standing out, and I

(49:16):
wonder if Denver sitting on something big.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
What do you what do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (49:20):
Well, this Colt's trade for sas Gardner is I think
a prime example of something that I always say. And
you know, fans get emotionally attached to players. They buy
their jerseys, they they watch their highlights, they you know,
see them on TV. They they become their guys. But

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for every team, every player is a cog in a
machine that is eventually going to be replaced, whether it's
because the piece gets broken, whether it's because the piece
is worn down, whether it's because the piece decides it
wants out and it has a plan to get out,
like Michael Parsons did in Dallas. And for the Jets,
it was as simple as this, we got a piece
in the machine that we're kind of ambivalent about, and

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they specifically structured the contract a sauce Gardener to make
it tradable. So along come the Colts and they view
sauce Gardener is a more desirable piece of the machine
in Indy than the Jets did in New York, and
they're willing to pay for it. You know, somebody comes
along and hey, you know, yeah, I like your car,
what do you want for it, well it's not for sale.

(50:24):
Well how about this, Well, now it's for sale, and
for two first round picks and a player. The Jets
were willing to rip that part out of the machine
and hand it to the Indianapolis Colts. And I think
it's all about system too, zone versus man. If the
Colts use a lot of zone and they do, Gardener
fits it better. And Aaron Glenn's been the coach there
long enough to know that sauce Gardener was not untouchable.

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There aren't many players in the NFL who are untouchable.
Who if you call up and say, hey, how about
two first round picks and a player, and they hang
up the phone. Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. There's a short
list of guys that you hang up the phone, and
the Jets clearly didn't view. Sauce Gardener is one of
those guys. And the Colts were willing to make that
trade to get that guy into their building because they're
just not trying to win it this year. They're trying

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to build something sustainable. Sauce Gardner isn't a rental. Sauce
Gardner is a buy. He's an acquisition who's going to
be in that machine in Indy for years to come.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I appreciate you man.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
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