#92Noon! 9a Hour 11/24 - The whole thing is bad.

An hour of takes and talkers off yesterday's Border Battle loss at Lambeau!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Happy Monday. Welcome to nine to Noon. This is your
rainy days and Monday's a leader. The master mixer of
the Monday Morning montage in patented fashion, Eric Nordquist, She's
mad Producer one. You can follow him on Twitter if
you are so inclined, And I'm Paul Allen. Good morning,

(00:25):
good morning, good morning. This just can't be the Minnesota
Vikings highlight of a day in Border Battle one thirty
unless it's a walk off winner. Bill Riiker to seven
of nine this year from fifty plus. This will be
a fifty nine yard try right hash snapspot kick.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Leg excellent accuracy. Wow, holy cow, is this kid good?
That's a fifty nine by Will Reikert, which means he
has passed Great Joseph for the second most makes of
fifty and beyond in Minnesota Vikings history. He now has
sixteen chich Swift Team eight behind Blair Walsh. I mean,

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that's great and everything, and the kid kicker is absolutely fantastic.
The punter did great work yesterday too, But really with
Border Battle one thirty unless it's in walk off fashion
leading to a victory or maybe a cold blooded fifty
nine yard or to get you overtime, only to have

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Daniel Carlson miss a bunch of kicks to get you overtime,
and then maybe you lose a spine tingler.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Where you played really, really well. It's just tough absorbing.
That is the absolute highlight of Border Battle one thirty
for the Minnesota Vikings. He's the bomb, no doubt. Ryan
Wright was amazing. But you can't leave Border Battle one
pint thirty with no touchdowns and bragging about kicks. Kicks

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indeed were in vogue yesterday right into the teeth of
every Minnesota Vikings fan listening to, watching or attending that game.
Keyshawn Nixon, he's a cornerback for the Green Bay Packers.
He had to leave the game after inadvertently getting kicked
in the let's say the spot. But our offense was

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that of being gelded by the Green Bay Packers. Rainy
days and Mondays for the win. That's the master mixer
of the Monday montage. It was rainy days and Mondays
for the win or the loss. In the case of
yesterday at Lambeau Days for me and I would imagine

(02:54):
a fair amount listening right now, Rainy days and Mondays
days would be daze, rainy days, rainy days, and every
day of the week is getting us down, and next
on the laundry list. Of next on the laundry list
would be that loss yesterday at the Border Battle one

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pint thirty at lambeau Field failed to score a touchdown
for the second time this season. Days as in bewildered, stupefied, confused, disappointed, frustrated,
and mystified. And I'm only the announcer and all that
is accurate, because losing is one thing, but getting throttled

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like that is mystifying. With like four yards of offense
in the second half. Those who say seeing this movie
no odd ends cannot be argued with three consecutive losses
for the third time in Kevin O'Connell's coaching career. They

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lost the first three and final four in twenty twenty three.
You see, that was the Dobbs year. And this is not.
This is the unveiling of the first round quarterback who
has thrown two interceptions four of his six games. It's
so bad. It got so bad. Yesterday Nordo's doing fan

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line and sees a Dak Prescott bad overthrow and JJ
McCarthy caught the Srey. I always love that one, even
those bleeding the colors. To this point of the equation,
I've had enough and I can't be mad at any
of them. Four and seven with Jackson Smith and Jigba
next on the docket. Who's he jsn as they call him.

(04:46):
He's a slot machine who has gone for two seventy
two and two in his last two catching it from
Sam the man who used to be on the fan.
I mean serious. Six days from now, Jackson Smith and Jigba,
just triple him and win that battle. Given the world

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thinks you'll lose the war, just win that little baby battle.
Maybe somebody you'll lead with For the first time all season,
Jackson Smith and Jigba was held in check, but the
rest of the story might not be that beautiful. Addison
and Naylor didn't have a catch. Jefferson has gone six
in a row without at least one hundred receiving yards.

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Seattle is next and is eight and three after beating Tennessee.
Darnald smells blood like a shark circling a wounded seal
who can't protect itself. This is miserable. Let's weekend wrap
before all of our neurological pathways shut down and the

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show is done. Middle of the first segment three two bays.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I'm golf up under center turns gifts the gifts, gifts,
had to take the car.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yet done, cut down to Croy Lion Wardial sand Thomas.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Stand up sixty one. We know saverre gifts to the
house playing from scrimmage and over.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Time by it you know you know.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
He can't fly?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Did you hear the joy in that radio booth? You
hear that joy? Oh? I mean if you know? Now
you know? And we know we know, as as do
the New York Giants. With the Detroit Lions starting the
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(07:00):
team found a way to win late as it is
wont to do snap Williams giving him a nung guy,
You mighty anun guy standing up and from.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
The two touchdown touchdown, Bears Head a thirty to twenty
one lead over the visiting Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
So Jamir Gibbs wins the overtime game for the Lions
on the first play in overtime, and now we know,
and the mighty Manung guy who knew he's the mighty
manung guy.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
We know?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
And more joy and happiness being exuded throughout the vest
and ever expanding Chicago Bears Audio Network. Everyone's so happy.
Lions one Bears one, Packers one yep. Sam, the man
who used to be on the fan, Well he's.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Next, poor man rushed, Donald has time, gonna let it fly?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Got a man, j said Banks. The catch takes the time.
Who's gonna back into the ends for a touchdown? Three Hawks?
Sixty three yards single coverage.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
You guys know better than that, Tennessee. Okay, it's a
lot of everybody knows, a lot of everybody knows, all
across the Great Divide, and the analysts are all giggling
and laughing.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, the analysts are having a great time.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Clopping, but they're filled with joy as they clamp.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's a beautiful thing, mine like yours, truly apoplectic, mystified, stupefied,
rainy days, daze and mondays. He got all of us down,
So we thought we'd share some happiness from around the
National Football League. I think that was a sixty three
yard hit from Sam the man who used to be
on the fam to Jackson Smith and Jigbab which indicates

(08:51):
it's either a deep shot with a lot of a
lot of air underneath the football or through which the
football is traveling, or some elite run after catch, good
blocking down the field and everything. I mean with respect,
like the deep strike game that we have come to

(09:13):
love in Minnesota in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four.
Oh my goodness, I mean that game at Buffalo feels
like three decades ago. Feels like Carson Wentz was the
quarterback for the team a half century ago. I don't
even remember that game. I don't either, Holy cow man,
freaking twilight zone. We're living it. I mean from the

(09:34):
end zone getting into the end zone for the Minnesota Vikings.
Well they got shut out. Speaking of shutouts, your Christmas callers,
your professional hockey team just keeps shutting out team after team.
Once you were handed he played it on price.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Joe Hanson carries in right side, Joe Hanson, Hippoly Hill coming,
Favor took a shot. He's goal brought Favor ripped it
under the crossbards, a shorthanded goal in the why.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Let's do nothing late Govenant collapse. Yeah, covenant collapse. Despite
the moreaus, despite the negativity, and despite the A topic
being the Z topic in hearts, at least, this team
shuts out Sydney Crosby five zero Friday and beats Winnipeg
for the first time in a long time. Went up

(10:20):
to the Peg to do it. Take that Peg, now
you know, Well.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
That's gonna see Falstad. Now you know, you know Falstead,
Now you know you.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Gotta beat those sorts of teams.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean, that's been the conversation the last.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Couple of years, like, wow, look at them, look at
them work the Blue Jackets, and then they just get
housed by their division rivals going up to Winnipeg getting
a w that's massive.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
The only way you can possibly know is if you know.
And that's what they did. No truer words. So now Peg,
now you know, Now you know, Lomas, let's go the
analyst for the Seahawks audio network, now you know. So
the Minnesota Wild with a very very very impressive victory
last year. Congratulations. PJ. Fleck, coach of the Golden Gophers,

(11:03):
joins nine to noon at about ten forty five, part
of the conversation involves this this from thirty four yards
cool to put Northwestern up inside the right hash snap
backspot down, kick.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Is up and it is good and Northwestern, with fifty
three seconds to go, has a thirty eight thirty five lead.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
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Curtis of nine to Now, let's go with this howl
tonight against Zach Levine and the Sacramento Kings. Now, the

(12:06):
last time the Timberwolves played was Friday, and they played
a team with a winning record, and sadly of late,
we know how those go. We'll get found in the
front court.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Gillespie with it ten seconds to play down one, Gillespie.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Runs it up the six point four seconds up. Wolves
don't need the time up to Julius Landel.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Julius will pomp on the three.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Then the Sons had come back to stun the Timberwolves.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Four one thirteen is the finals. We've got stunned. We
got stunned. We got stunned.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Now we know, now we know, and well what we
know is that since we have now a team on
the docky with a losing record, will handle business and
then it's all eyes on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Night, Baby yeah Wednesday that oh yeah, Shay Gilges, Alexander
ched Holmgren and the Oklahoma City Thunder Artinstein Artinstein's minie
Haha academy go crazy. My goodness. The Gophers hockey team
split with fifth ranked Penn Steak. That's cool, congratulations coach

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coach Motscow on the victory portion of the equation, and
some Minnesota Vikings talkbacks. A little later nine to noon,
why because we care free iHeart audio app find the microphone.
He got thirty seconds to opine as you did yesterday,
so eloquently and so vociferously via Vikings fanline, and we

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will run some talkbacks at multiple times during the course
of the radio show today. But that's the weekend wrap.
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We pad the music and fire up nine to noon.
Good morning. The Green Bay Packers went to mocking the

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skull chant after Evan Williams intercepted JJ McCarthy, all right,
mocking the skull chant, you say for like thirty seconds. Sadly,
the question is, how can this version of the Minnesota
Vikings make them or anybody pay when you do things

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like that? Right, that's the sad portion of the equation,
because well, you feel helpless, so you got to make
somebody pay when they do things like that, and right
to make somebody pay at this moment feels like we're
on the wrong side of the old taxation increases. I mean,
it's kind of like big brother Little brother, where big
brothers just got his arm on his little brother's head

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and his brother is slailing and big brother is just laughing,
just laughing, filled with.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Clee making sure if you know, you know, oh yeah,
little brother fails to know that he just at this
particular moment doesn't have a freaking chance in the game.
That's what about every moment felt like on Sunday, worried
that that is a harbinger for what's to come.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
The Sultan of Smug joins later, A great Sultan of
Smug joins later at eleven thirty five Bebop f ib
a fairness and border battle act that should be excellent.
That should be excellent. About eleven thirty five with the
border battle, I'd rather be Keishawn Nixon's wounded sack than

(15:35):
listen to that. I always love that one. Well, you
know I will.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
I will say this, even though he makes he makes
me as a rube look unbiased about my favorite team. Historically,
he has handled these moments pretty well despite being the
Sultan of Smug, and there's earning that particular title.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
He handles being on top with a plumb No. That's
he's a front runner.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
He's absolutely a front runner as a Packers fan. But
I think he's going to be very polite and cordial
this morning.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Softy from Seattle probably won't be too loud and obnoxious
later this week's if and or win we have him
on the feast Friday is that Buffalo Wild Wings Mall
of America, Buffalo Wild Wings Mall of America for the
Friday Football all beas you know. After the show, I

(16:27):
might drop two thousand dollars on my AMX and call
it emotional shopping. I always love that one. The ten
twenty today should be cool. That is a vulnerable environment
for you, and we are being serious with this. The
ten twenty ish should be cool after the analyst Eric Borgard,
general manager of Metropolitan for EB as we call him well,
his kid Chase Chase Bejorguard scored six touchdowns and a

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mass three hundred and fifty one total yards in a
Dynah State title win against Morehead. So our brother be
your guard. Eb with Chase, they're going to stop by
about ten twenty ish to talk about that that moment,
and I don't know, maybe b will give you a

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sweet deal on a Ford f one fifty. My man
has no idea. He doesn't know, he doesn't know, he
has no idea. He's rolling into just a puddle of negativity,
sarcasm and distraction. But he will hold on all right too.
It hurts. I'm almost done with the writing on the

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plane last night. Hold on this whole thing hurts no
like this cramp. I got my ribs now, I know? Now,
you know? All right? Three two eb. He has no idea.
He's rolling into just a puddle of negativity, sarcasm and
distraction related depression. But we'll make the best of it.
His son Chase is going to be with him. He's

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a kid at a time. Hey. The Vikings, the Minnesota
Vikings at lambeau Field, had more runs than passes at halftime.
Everybody happy with that super special chain of events? Huh
been asking for it right? The only first half touchdown

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was partially partially a well, okay, let's let's let's rewind
more runs than passes at halftimes, super special chain of events,
and the first two went for a combined eighteen yards.
And we threw three consecutive times and went three and out,

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had that nice pass to Jefferson. Actually three great plays
in a row before we threw our way to a
field goal. The formula, though, running more than passing and
not getting saw like murdered in the take giver time
of possession. That'd be great to add to the equation.
That'd be a great part of the formula. Tight end though,

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especially the saw like murdering the take give or time
of possession. The only first half touchdown was partially a
result of a dicey p I call on Mittellus, who
set up green Bay around the red zone. Then Emmanuel
Wilson became a cross between Alman Green, Eddie Lacy and

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Johnny Blood McNally, and Emmanuel Wilson had a career day
against us. That's just special. I want to see his
yards after contact yesterday, Man, we couldn't tackle him. Isaiah
McDuffie's been in the league five years. That was the
first interception of his career. Stop with the firsts in
the history of your careers against the Minnesota Vikings police.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
He had hands like oj McDuffie yesterday. How about if
that's not part of the equation or part of the formula.
You know that formula that at times runs more than
it passes. But sometimes it's Friday the thirteenth, like murdered
in the take give or time of possession. M So,
Emmanuel Wilson, you say you spend all week wondering if

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Josh Jacobs is going to play. Then you hear he's
out a couple of hours before the game, and feel
good about things until Emmanuel Wilson goes Jim Taylor on
the bit and the old arm tackling trick just didn't
work again.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Nine to Noon is bored with getting killed in the
time of possession board, with the twenty one turnovers, which
are most in the NFL board, with the one time
high end down field passing game being null and void.
And we're bored with dogwalks and neurological pathways being impeded

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by Michael Parsons and DeVante Wyatt short circuiting every facet
of our quarterback's brain. And if that's not enough, at
least we got to watch the Green Bay Packers defense
mocked the skull Champ for thirty seconds after the Evan
Williams interception. Yeah, all right, didn't have an answer. We
couldn't do anything about it. Don't kill the messenger or messengers, Okay,

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Rube Nation, don't kill the messengers. We're just sharing the
words I view from yesterday at lambeau Field. You know
the team Chiropractor, very very nice man named David. The
team Chiropractor approached me right before takeoff from Austin Strobel and,
sensing I was pear shape, said you look a little down,

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take a peek outside at just the most beautiful sunset
you'll ever see. I didn't respond, but thought to myself, Now,
why would I do that when I'm masochistically can pound
away on my keyboard writing about a sunset of a
different variety, the one enveloping our twenty twenty five Minnesota

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Viking season, and it's that of darkness and lacking any
form of beauty. Thank you timber Tech and timber tech
dot com. What's on deck nine to Noon includes X
marking the spot around the corner, followed by some talkbacks
than the Analyst and high school Immortality, and the beat
just goes on and on and on, and here we are.

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It's nine twenty seven Order Produces and I'm Paul Allen.
This is Wine to Noon at FM one hundred point
three kfan. The fan wheeling will let it fly from
about his own forty miles Price heals on the ten

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end over end production by Wheeland. Price is going to
let it sail over his head. Nice bounce for green Bay.
At the sixth, Price ran in there and touched it.
What are you doing? It's bouncing about at the five
to get them out of the Paul, are you kidding?
Member ridiculous? I mean, this is so ridiculous. X as
in Twitter, X was marking the spot for the negatives

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to jump the Minnesota Vikings. X making their mark, making
their mark zah, getting some likes and retweets and back
and forth into the night. What a super special Sunday
that must have been. And the hits were coming from
all over. X was marking the spot, and here they are.
I mean they were coming from all over. You know what,

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when I started putting this thing together, I could have
done it for about ninety minutes. I mean there were
names of analysts and talking heads and writers and stuff
that everybody's heard of from all over the place, just
opining on Minnesota Vikings football. The local feel. I mean,
it was off the charts. If you didn't listen to

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Vikings fan line yesterday, I mean, it's you could just
kind of get a snippet or a small feel for
it there. And X was marking the spot with greening.
Mike Greenberg from ESPN, he tweeted yesterday the hashtag Vikings
have a real problem on their hands. It's obviously two

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early to write off the quarterback, but it's not too
early to be significantly alarmed. Richard Sherman, former cornrve back
for the Seattle Super Chickens. I mean he's all over
McCarthy and and has been for a couple of weeks.

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Richard Sherman, purportedly an elite football mind rights. The struggles
continue for McCarthy. Second interception thrown today, Yeah, video with
that one. Kevin Seffert, he's local old school, best school too.

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And with ESPN dot com it's some other ship. It's
a major, major national entity ESPN dot com Old School
best cool tweets. In the last thirty seasons, there have
only been two Vikings quarterbacks who have thrown two interceptions
in three consecutive games. Oh No. Twenty twelve, Christian Ponder

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twenty twenty five, Jay J. McCarthy average. I started to
hear some Ponder references on fan line yesterday.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, I've tried to I've tried to avoid that as
best I can, wanting to give the kid the opportunity
to carve his own path, make his own way. But
it was unavoidable yesterday with the with the two turnovers,
with the way the offense looked in the second half,
and all of those things, the sacks, the general impotence
on the offense ponder has become a very very regular

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reference points as we watch the six games.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
JJ McCarthy has started. Wow, Dallas came back and beat Philadelphia.
We're happy for you. Wow. Shador Sanders got his first victory.
We're happy for you. Holy Cow. Joe Burrow didn't play,
so so my money line tout on Friday was diseased.
We're happy for you, alright. Three to two X was
marking the spot at Twitter with the Minnesota Vikings chagrin

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at TC had cheese, the Sultan of Smug, who joins
today about eleven thirty five. My Vikings loving son Jackson
is now checking the current twenty twenty six draft order
and trying to figure out how many teams would draft
a quarterback before the Purple picks. Thank you, Sultan, though

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we don't need you. Well if anybody's interested, off the
X marking the spot with the Sultan of Smug Vikings
current draft order goes like this, twelve forty three, seventy six,
ninety seven, one seventy one, two O six, two twenty seven,
and two thirty five. Don't kill the messenger. Don't kill

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the messengers just given the words I view from old
Lambeau fe something called mL football mL football via Twitter hashtag.
Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy would have had a higher passer
rating if he would have just spiked the ball on

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every play. If you spike the ball on every play,
your passer rating is thirty nine point six. His rating
at Lambeau thirty four point two. Disaster in Minnesota. He
finishes it with do.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
You ever notice with a lot of those where going
back to Greenie's post, Yeah, it's too early to give up?
Is kind of that You keep seeing that it's too
early to tell there's still we still need to see
more reps. But then they just bury the kid.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
It's I mean, he didn't really do that, but it's
a good example starting point. Yeah, that's but that's telling
us it's not too early to be significantly alarmed. Correct, Yes,
it's too early. I would argue with him, don't cut
the kid.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
But my goodness, it's as bad and I don't see
any chance that it gets better. I've just I've just
been feeling that over the last twenty four hours of Yes,
I mean, and I think that the pileon that's it's
easy to pile on and ride that wave because through
six starts you have not seen you can't come out
of this first six game, this six pack of starts

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and say, well, this thing is really good. He just
needs you know, we're even I mean, in some ways
I feel like we were fooling ourselves last week, like
thinking about, well, these first two drives terrific, and the
numbers pan out. I think the first quarter in totality,
matter of fact, his passer rating is let's call it
like one twenties something like that. But then the rest
of the game is just an unmitigated disaster. The midges, well, yeah,

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the middle, the middle thirty or the final forty five.
And now we know and now and and do we know?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Do we know?

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Because it's it's as you heard there, it's too early
to write a kid off. But my goodness, should we
all be on complete Defcon one red alert at this
particular moment. It's just and this is you know, when
where maybe a greenee or some people that prognosticate and
opinion make in the sport where they would just kind
of be quiet, Okay, there's ups and downs. We have

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now reached the stage where it is complete, open, comfortable
season on daggering the QB. That's how these six games,
sadly with McCarthy have gone.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Well with Mike Greenberg. With Greenee, I mean there are
three sentences here. The Vikings have a real problem on
their hands. Would we agree or disagree? Absolutely? Yes, So,
because that sentence there does not solely involve quarterback analysis,

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the hashtag Vikings have a real problem on their hands.
A four and seven record would lead to a real
problem on somebody's hands. The next sentence, it's obviously too
early to write off the quarterback. That's realistic and that's
time tested. Yeah, so that's accurate. And then the next one,

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but it's not too early to be significantly alarmed. I
can't argue with that one either. So that's that's a tweet.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
It's a tweets. That's an ex marking the spot there
was basically at one point I'm watching the game. I
was at Gray's Food Hall doing an appearance yesterday, a
little watch party, and it was almost like you needed
that interception to McDuffie to just kind of complete the
entire thing. Just Okay, now this feels like a complete

(30:42):
game for the twenty twenty five Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, what even made it better? Sorry to clip Well,
I mean if you take it a step farther. Yeah,
the left tackle got run around by the player for
whom they traded. Who's making a difference at the right time? Correct?

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Connect the beach? Well, think about it every single week.
We should almost get a sponsor for it. This week's
special team's inexplicable gaff is brought to you by an
insert local company here.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Nobody was talking about special teams and it just caught
a stray. But that's my pa, that's my point.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
It became a complete game because it was the entire
season in one game. We have Ivan pace running off
the field and we're calling a timeout when we have
eleven guys on the field.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
You just called me pa. You haven't called me pa
in about six and a half years. That's how pair shape,
this whole operation has become.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Miles Price lets the ball go, then he's probably making
the right decision, but there's a lack of situational or
spatial awareness that leads to the to the hit on
the ball contact and it's a turnover. Mentioning the left
tackle that Rashan Gary ran around he ran around Justin's
school because we have injuries on the O line again

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after we spent a week getting excited about having our
entire Minnesota moving company intact.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
And it was Justin school's birthday. Well, I mean belated,
happy birthday. I mean just from a human standpoint, but
my goodness, has it not been good enough. The rookie
left guards now got a foot or an ankle. And
then you're looking at a team that ran the ball
fifteen times in the first half, two times for minus
three in the second half, and then the QB gets
sacked five times, throws two picks. That is the Vikings

(32:22):
twenty twenty five season explained in one sixty minute game
at lambeau Field.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
It had freaking everything. Yesterday, none of.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
It good at M and Twins Zealot VX at MN
Twins Zealot VAX because X was marking the spot for
the Negatives to jump the Minnesota Vikings. Yesterday at MN
Twins Zealot, the Minnesota Twins to the Vikings join us.

(32:53):
I always love that one. It's a picture and everything.
It took a little work that one. And the penultimate
for the X marks the spot segment former Tennessee Titans
left tackle Taylor Lewan. Former Tennessee Titans left tackle Taylor
Lewan got into the mix. Vikings fans are in a

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tough spot right now. But if this season has shown
us anything it's that this league has a development and
patience problem. You've got a proven coach who knows how
to develop players. Now you've got to be patient with
JJ and sit with the frustrations that come with the growth.

(33:42):
He needs time, more time than you probably want to give.
But he's shown enough flashes, at least to me to
believe he can be special. I believe Kevin O'Connell will
get him right and that will see a completely different
player next Taylor Luwan, he played the game, REAMI didn't

(34:07):
play the game. The Ponchie Saltan didn't play the game.
mL Football didn't play the game. That's true. Taylor played
the game. That's that's how he's seeing it with no agenda.
I believe Kevin O'Connell will get him right and that
will see a completely different player next season. Okay, and finally,
something called just another year Chicago and he wasn't a

(34:29):
former Michigan player, but oh wow, I'd stick up for
you if you were in peril. No, I absolutely absolutely
stick up for me. You'd call me pa. Everything. Change
is what we're losing. We're all out for ourselves. This
one's going to get you a little bit, all right?
Just another year, Chicago that that entity tweeted and stop

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Nasehan Wright was on the Vikings practice squad last year.
So far for hashtag Bears in twenty twenty five, forty
nine total tackles, ten passes defensed, five interceptions, tied for
first in the NFL with teammate Kevin Byerd, two fumble
recoveries and an interception touchdown. What a Ryan Poles pick up?

(35:23):
That has been.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Get you?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Taylo lew on Wolverine that's right? The uh Tom Brady?
Where are you? We need Desmond Howard? Where are you? Seriously?

Speaker 3 (35:36):
A J.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Barner? You know, I know that they'll be playing your
team next week, but Poston Lovelin, I mean, can you
guys stick up for the kid like Michigan the fellow
Wolverine Michigander on the tweet machine? Well, here's my question,
just once, here's my question.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, if what we do we believe that Tom Brady
is the greatest quarterback to play.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yes in the NFL, I do.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
And he went to Michigan and he you can hear
him now host playing career probably more often than the
days with the Pats and the and the box kind
of rep making references to Michigan.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
There's a little bit.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
You can feel a little bit of humanity eking out
of Tom Brady in terms of his connection to Ann Arbor.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I'm still looking for that, Blake Corum tweet. Well, here's
my question.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
If if the greatest QB in the world, fellow QB
at Michigan isn't saying anything, is he saying everything? Is
he saying everything? By not saying anything.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Can we get Jake Long to get on the X
machine and defend the kid or a member of the
Shechem Beckler family. God rest the soul of bow anybody.
This is nine to nowthan.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
What does Mason Graham think he went against He went
against him in practice?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yes, yes, Mason Graham. You gotta feel good about yourself.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Your team just won. Shador got vic number one and
we're happy for him. What about sand Restelle? Stick up
for your kid? Mason Graham, Come on, this is a
problem ty streets where you been, David Terrell, where are
you been or just where are you?

Speaker 4 (37:13):
You want to be relevant again? Get on the X machine.
What about bubbsy or greasy?

Speaker 1 (37:17):
What? Watch the likes and the retweets. Just roll and
by play with elite football minds VX. Some of your
talkbacks are around the corner, so don't leave ourcers.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
So from what gentlemen, This is Dave from Los Angeles.
My friends are apologizing to me for yesterday's performance that
I think for next week Rosmer should start give JJ
and break because the comparisons are going to be huge

(37:52):
between him and Donald's next week and then go from there.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Have a great day. Thanks for the talkback free. iHeart
audio app and thank you for listening out Los Angeles
way very early. Sorry you had to face all the
locientos or all of the We're sorry for yous, I
mean as heartfelt as I'm sure they were. But did
you get a lot of brosemerr Brosemer slash McCarthy related

(38:22):
talkbacks or calls or six four six eight six is yesterday?
I did?

Speaker 4 (38:26):
And you know it's I'm in a spot like I'm
not turning down any opinion at this stage, right, And
I hate to say that I love it because I
don't like the team losing and having adversity at all.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I want them to win every game.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
But it can be kind of fun when there's a
tough loss and you do fan line and you just
kind of let people go.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Davenport a love style, and you just let him say
what needs to be said, like the guy with the
pseudonym who wanted to shirt her tickets or something.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Well, I mean that went a little longer than I
probably should have let it. But yes, holler and James,
I think is what he refers to a self to
himself as Here's my thing on Brozmer is that if
Brosmer was an undrafted cat just from New Hampshire and
not from the Gophers, I still believe there would be
an element of let's see what the backup has because

(39:14):
there are people that have made the final decision. JJ
McCarthy doesn't have it, We need to move on. But
I think it's louder because of the local connection. As
a matter of fact, you can go farther. You can
say the fact that he was here with the Minnesota
Golden Gophers probably has a lot to do with the
opportunity that he had and then he took advantage of
it and he made the team. But really without that

(39:34):
local connection, I don't believe that there is as much trust,
love and faith in Brosmer as we are hearing. And
that's not even a shot at Brosmer. I just think
that for better or worse, if JJ McCarthy is healthy
enough to play, he needs to take every single rep
these final six games. I just don't even think the
Brozemer things should be discussed. I don't think it should
be an option. And we're going to find out at

(39:56):
the end of these six games whether it's completely untenable
and some offseason things need to happen, or does the
light turn on?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
And you know the consistency you hear.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
In the press conferences and things, it's you know, it's
right there, it's close. We're seeing growth. I personally am
not seeing growth on the field through these six games,
but as long as they continue to have belief that
something can be fixed, that a platform can be built
to grow from You invested the tenth overall selection in
this kid. You effectively put a bunch of things in

(40:27):
motion all leading to this, and nothing has gone right
from a health standpoint, various gaffes, underperforming potentially defense takeovers,
turn away takeaways, et cetera. And the kid is not growing,
so everything's gone wrong. But once you put into this
you have you can't just say not didn't work after
six starts.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I don't think that's good enough.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
I think if he's healthy to play, it needs to
get every single rep the rest of the year. Well,
I believe he is growing, Okay, it just may not
be positively and prevalent with the statistical wherewithal with what
we see, because I do believe there is growth in adversity.

(41:08):
It's difficult to quantify because you can't really see it
or feel it. But I do believe You've heard me
say it before I and we have experienced it in
different fassets.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Of our lives. Ascension generally takes place in hot he did.
I mean, we're talking about tenuous, supertenuous situations when a
bottom is identified. I'm really hoping yesterday was the bottom
for JJ McCarthy on many levels, things everybody sees and

(41:42):
things not everybody sees. I'm hoping that that was rock bottom, baby.
And I'm with you on the provincial nature of the
elevating or the audible nature of the voices becoming louder
six four six eighty six, maybe being all caps with

(42:03):
fifteen exclamation points. When it comes to Brozmer, Brosm or Brosmer, Yeah,
somebody of whom I'm quite fond. So you know, like
you said, this is with respect. But the he he's
the only quarterback on the active roster. So he's the
two So forget the sky Yuma colors, forget New Hampshire.

(42:25):
He's the only other option on the active rosterep. So
if you do have the belief that if for the
rest of the run the other guy should play, I
would be lockstep with you in that. Now, I don't
see it that way. If if see when you say
unless or when people say unless you know, physically damaged

(42:50):
or unless hurt or injured, I mean that goes beyond,
that goes beyond ankles and hips and shoulders and sternams. Yeah,
especially for twenty two year olds who have they've wanted,
everything they've done, they've never faced any form of thick,

(43:12):
dark adversity like this, right, and to believe you snap
and they all just bounce out of it. I mean
that's a little steely for me to who much is given,
much is expected fair, but maturity and growth and growth
through adversity is part of that process too. Yeah. So

(43:34):
if you believe that somebody is so down on themselves
and in essence feeling they're carrying the burden of everybody else,
which would be unfair to the individual. But nevertheless, you
know you're talking about somebody who, from a life experience standpoint,

(43:58):
has absolutely never faced or seen anything like this, and
I would imagine it hurts. So if you feel somebody
so brain boggled that they're putting too much pressure on
themselves and it's subsequently impacting things, well, then that individual
does have to sit to the side for a little
bit to recalibrate, catch the twenty two year old's breath,

(44:20):
and then come back and try again. If I mean,
I can't.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Well, if that's the case, that would be part of
the concerning conversation in terms of how he's handling this everyone.
I mean, and there are a lot of players that
are drafted in the NFL each and every year that
come into situations where they were the best kid in
high school, they had terrific I mean, just pick your
Ohio State player of the day, and a lot of

(44:47):
these guys are going to be people that are very,
very unaccustomed to losing, and so how they handle it
the maturity element. I'm not in the locker room, so
I can't tell you how the kids handle it. Yes,
in fairness, I guess that would be a reason to
go to Brosmur. But a lot of it is you
either think it'll be better or it's hey, let's see
what Brosmer has. Again, just in totality, I'd love to

(45:10):
see what Brosmer has. But the investment in the kid,
the investment in McCarthy, combined with all of the organizational
things you've done over the last eighteen months to get
to this point, if he is healthy enough to play
and there isn't this brain boggled thing you're talking about,
because mental health counts too, It certainly does count. But

(45:30):
I'm not in his head. I can only see what
I'm seeing on the field. So if he's healthy enough
to play and he's not brain boggled as you're talking about,
he needs every rep that he can possibly get because
we do need an answer, We do need to see
that growth that you're saying is maybe incrementally in some
areas either on or off the field.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Oh, we all see that. And so we all watch
the Lions game. We all watch the final two drives
of the Most Reason Bears game.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Right, but I show it is there, Well, I would
know I would look at that more as I know
that talent exists. Right, I have not lost faith that
the kid is super talented.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Fairly, it is an outlier with with how dark the
other side of the equation has become.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Well, and that's where when I'm talking about growth on
the field. Those moments had sold your field, Ford Field.
Those are super cool. But growth would be the consistency
of those moments. Consistency would be managing the middle thirties,
so to speak.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
So this this are you familiar with the name David Carr? Uh? Yeah,
this is reminding me a lot of David Carr's rookie
season with the Houston Texans. Oh my goodness, all those
sacks NFL record. Yeah. And if you if you read
up on David Carr, or you learn about David Carr,
or you have, you get a chance to meet David Carr.

(46:45):
He was so mentally beaten by that first year. He
couldn't bounce back. You didn't recover, and that doesn't make
him weak. It doesn't make him a loser. No, it
doesn't make these people weak because you don't ascend to
this in the first place by being weak. But there
are things that hit out of nowhere that you've never

(47:06):
faced that just break a man. Oh yeah, and that
year broke David Carr well.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
And that goes to quotes like I think Kevin O'Connell
said it himself, is sometimes organizations can fail qbs as
much as QB's fail organization. So each of these is
its own individual story where lack of oline, maybe offensive issues,
the environment and the circumstances around David Carr knocked him
out of his own mind and kind of made him

(47:34):
forget how to go out there and just throw a
football at a high level, which he had been doing
for his entire life.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
And just hopefully that's not a case here with the kid.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
So if he's healthy and he's not brain boggled as
you're talking about, I need to see him in there.
And just finally, I want to see more consistency and
growth out of the kid.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
We got six more games left to see it. The
analyst Pete Bursts joins, nine to noon next