November 7, 2025 • 53 mins
The Friday Football Feast begins with Chad Greenway joining the show to preview the Vikings game vs the Ravens. Including how the Vikings need to defend Lamar Jackson.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Nothing to say.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh, here comes Miles Price up the center to the thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Holly shakes a tack.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
With the forty, gets out to the right to the
fifty hen Lions territory to the thirty five yard line.
Miles Price with the longest kick return of his young
career that goes for fifty nine yards and the Minnesota
Vikings punch back with a kick return seven zero Lions.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
First and goal Minnesota from the nine. McCarthy out of
the shotgun, throws right to the end zone. Cot tot dis.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
A one handed catch. Bye.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Justin Jefferson and the Minnesota Vikings. You're an extra point
from tie in the game. Wait to go, Jay j
McCarthy Jesus first and goal from the seven. McCarthy out
of the shotgun percent in motion to the left. They
take a hand off to JJ and McCarthy rolls out
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to the right, fires to the episode.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Touch down thumber line.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
J Hockinson catches that fine arm pass ball from JJ.
McCarthy and the Minnesota Vikings have taken a thirteen.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Seven leads.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Simmers down Jared Goff out of the shot gun from
his thirty looking left.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Here's a Blintz Goffice.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Hit and Jared goffas decked back at the twenty three
yard line.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Silence ensues at port Field third down, third and six from.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The Viking forty six, where Jared Goff out of the
shot down the three receivers to the right. Gibbs stands
to the right of Goff, Loamoriga opposite Grenard to the
left snap Vikings Blitz Cashman got through and.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Jared doffhas deck o Dan.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Blake Cashman one of step to get through along with
the likes of Eric Wilson Javon Hargrave with a big rush.
Lions ain't gonna go for it on this fourth and sixteen. Instead,
they're gonna punt second and fifteen from the Vikings twenty two.
McCarthy out of the shot gun, pikes a handoff to
Mason loops it left to Jones. Great playing gets to
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the thirty by the sideline to the forty.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Aaron Jones chop.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Down at the fifty yard line and he falls ahead
of the Lions forty seven up catching run by Aaron
Jones thirty one.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yards perst down.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
To wait thirty thirteen from their own six. Need to
go off, He's gonna toss it left. Montgomery bobbles it,
turns it up outside the numbers in the file.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Hey sprockets Hey Harry the hit Man.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He picks it up at the thirty five angles to
the right and he's tackled by David Montgomery. The Vikings
get the first and take up this division collision and
they get the ball in Lions territory.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Harrison Smith with the fumble.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Recovery and for the Hitman, the tenth of his career
to Jordan Mason, the tail back to the wet of
the former Michigan Wolf Raine. JJ mccarthew takes the snap,
short drop, runs out to the right.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
What's he gonna do? He's gonna run ten five D
zone top dive.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Peace.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
JJ McCarthy put another rushing touchdown this season and the
Vikings I'm a twenty three fourteen leadsode Hey. Elk River, Minnesota,
Welcome to the Friday Football Food.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Let's have a funky good time today and all throughout
the weekend. Welcome, Welcome those in the back room over there.
We never can see it. Elk River a very spacious
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Speaker 4 (05:04):
Good to see you over there, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
To my left, around of applause for Engineer extraordinaire Jared Wells.
The street team is over there. That's Alec Lewis from
the Athletic around the applause. Eric nordquis mad producer from
nine to noon, and welcome to the Friday football Feast.
We got a lot of minutia to get into. But first,
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Speaker 2 (05:37):
Come on now, I almost hit a beer over there.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I hit three. Hey, hey, hi, all right, it hurts. Alec,
good morning, Hey, Paul Nod, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
So this is the biggest Buffalo wild Wings in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
JDub good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
How do we feel about JJ McCarthy into this one?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
J McCarthy at Ford Field?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
There we go JJ seasons what they call it, and
I'm gonna set it up like this. Alec, you first,
he well the team, but he the twenty two year
old quarterback, was quite hyped off the fourth quarter, he
and the team had its soldier field. Then we had
the home opener, against Atlanta and failed to generate a touchdown.
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So JJ back off the layoff. He and the team
hyped off a very big win at Detroit. How about
that win at ford Field?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You feel good about that?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And now he comes back home. So he comes back
home with a lot of local and national praise likewise
for the football team, and we are looking for full
game consistency like we found at Ford Field with JJ McCarthy.
He's back at home versus the Baltimore Ravens. What are
you thinking about all that, mister alec Lewis.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, I can't wait for the game.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I told somebody outside he gave me a Raven stat
that was spectacular.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I can't repeat it. It was. It was harsh, but
it was a stat.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
There was a guy he was not a really nice guy,
but he was telling me about how when you play
the Ravens, if you lose, just getting fired or so.
I don't really know what's going on, JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I just don't think, like, wait, what's the other side
of it? If you beat the Ravens, you make the
NFC North. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Found it to be rubbage, JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
In this game, I I expect him to be much
more comfortable, confident, and composed than he was in Week
two against the Falcons coming back home. Just feel like
the time that he had to sit and watch it
wasn't easy. But I you know, for him, because he
is a guy, and I wrote this after the game,
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like this guy does not like sitting, He does not
like not playing.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It really gets.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
To him because of how much he enjoys being in
the fight, and so there is an immense like just
pride that he takes and being out there. I just
I think for Kevin O'Connell in this game, you want
to keep him from having to make twenty throws in
the game. It's can you make seven to ten throws
in key moments, third downs, red zone throws? And if
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you can do that, I think the trajectory in the
path that it feels like he could go on these
last nine games.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
He will go on.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I tend to agree with you in terms of his
poise and maybe just being a little bit calmer, you know,
after NFC Player of the Week, it's his first game,
manufactures those three tds.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's more dramatic, it's soldier field than it had to be.
But as part of that poise.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I think he was talking about yesterday or the day
before when he chatted with the media. One thing he's
working on is being more accurate on the move when
he's on the run. Now, he was super accurate on
that touchdown pass to TJ.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Hawkins. That was that was umbeloo.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
He threw a freaking Yamamoto fastball over Justin Jefferson's head
while running.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Straight at him. Should have been easy pitch and catch.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
One thing that I'm looking for and I'm hoping that
it comes to fruition, is just being more accurate in general.
Like if you look back that throw he made near
side going right to left to Jordan Addison in coverage,
beautiful throw, the timing route and Justin Jefferson masterclass route
runner on the far side boundary.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I mean, as beautiful as it gets in real time.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
When he made that throw, and I'm sitting next to
Dame Mizzitania the Pioneer Press and I was like whoa.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I'm like screamed in the press spot. It was an
unbelievable throw.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
An extra Mead mugget because there's no cheering in the
press box. Yeah, I got my credential pulled, but more
more accurate in general. Like I in some ways, I
look at that pick that he threw and I'm thinking
I kind of need Jalen Naylor to secure that and
not turn that into the situation that it was in.
But some of those other moments, you know, while while
the pick was wonky, I'm thinking about in desperate fashion,
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that short throw he made to to TJ.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Hawkinson that was kind of lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And then that actual that the second pick that was
thrown but was bailed out by penalty.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
If you remember that later, that was not a good throw.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And so for part of that poise, part of him
handling the calm and being calmer at US Bank Stadium
this weekend, I think lends to him being more accurate
on the field.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That's the very first that'd be the a topic for me.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
If if I'm looking at like, what's another step for
mister McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Let's let's let's peer into Baltimore's offensive approach versus Brian
Florees defense. And when we get to I hop at
ten o'clock in honor of Paul as in Paul Charchi
and it's a fantasy bit running backs are the bill
of fare today and and when thinking running backs or
running games with Baltimore, you have in full back Patrick
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Ricard who's three hundred pounds, and tailback Derreck Henry's two
hundred and twenty two ish pounds. You're looking at five
hundred and twenty two pounds of beef coming as It's
a lot of beef behind a quarterback who also is
big and sturdy.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You say two twenty two. It might be heavier than
he looks. I think Derek Henry's nothing short of fifty five.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'd be two fifty two of them, But nevertheless, a
lot of beef. You got some quarter Ton Covenant come
Hills up in that mix, coming right at you.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
And neither one of those arrive at your house in
a box.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But nevertheless, you got three tight ends who are also
adept at run blocking. So Baltimore's offensive approach versus beat
flows defense.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
What y'all thinking about that?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I'm glad you mentioned the tight ends and Patrick Ricard
because this is a team that is going to do
what has given the Vikings some trouble throughout this season
in terms of they are going to play with heavy personnel.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
They're gonna play with two tight ends.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
They have Isaiah Likely, they have Mark Andrews, and then
they have a guy Charlie Kohler, who I did not
know before I watched the film, and I'm I'm not
sure how great he is, but they've got him catch.
And then they're gonna they're gonna go three tight ends,
thirteen personnel, and they're gonna go with you know, twenty
two personnel.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
They're gonna play with fullback.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
They're gonna play with multiple tight ends, and they're gonna
force you to stop the run out of those Look
they're also going to throw out of those lotes. I mean,
this Ravens offense does everything. They will spread you out,
they will smash mouth you vertically on the interior. So
it's a lot to be cognizant of. For me, it's
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can you contain can you stop the run first and foremost?
And then can you contain lamar and plaster and coverage
when he is scrambling and darting around the way he
the way he does? And you know, having Andrew van Geegle,
for me at least, it gives me a lot of
confidence that you can do that at a level that
I think they need.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
To Derrick Henry two hundred and fifty two pounds, Patrick
Requard three hundred. That is a quarter Ton Covenant. It's
a two man jumbo package coming at everything that's purple
and gold.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Did you just look up how many pounds is in
a ton? You were on your phone.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's kind of like now, we used to refer to
ourselves as the Quarterton Covenant, and we've tried to work
on our weight issues.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
You still got a wasting I feel like you for
week ten. You guys, look, I mean, spectacle.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Good season four. Just I just I mean the hair
looks good, that's for sure. But well you wouldn't believe
the girdle, the girdle I have on right now.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, anyway, and chastity belt.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, if you thought, if you thought the Eagles were
working you with Fred Johnson, if you thought the Steelers
and that mammoth mountainous tight end Darnell Washington was a problem,
you're right, man. The three tight ends and Recard like
how they're going to deploy them is going to be
the best of what we've kind of had trouble with
in twenty twenty five. Now, you know, with Lamar, it's
kind of playing the contained game. I am kind of
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interested because they they want to they want to work
in They they'd love to just run for three hundred
yards this weekend, and Flores is going to try to
mitigate that. But the issue if if they're any if
they're any bit successful on the run early, then that
play action game, like they'll want to get Lamar booting
out and then buy that extra second or two to
hit one of the seven tight ends on the field.
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And and and the crazy thing about this team where
where the Eagles kind of rely on Saquon greatness and
then huge explosives to.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
The highlight wide receivers. I kind of think, like the
Ravens are built.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
If you need to make them go seventeen plays, I
don't think they care because they can get explosive with
Zay Flowers and they have some of those elements, but
that's generally due to a coverage breakdown where they're more
than happy to get you four yards with Derrick Henry.
Then they're gonna hit you with some stupid outpass to
Justice Hill that goes for seven to the boundary and
he moves the chains and then there's gonna be a
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tight end that gets loose in a soft zone and
then now it's Mark Andrews for twenty five. So I
think the contain game with Lamar, Like you know, Javon
Hargrave has a tremendous game and you want him to
wreak havoc again, But there's kind of that that weird.
I guess nexus or it has to be synchronized where
Renard and Van Ginkel where they get that initial bull
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rush push.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
But then in some.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Ways it's like that sack could be right there, but
you can't take the cheese man if he's selfless.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Oh you got you gotta.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Play So Selvis and I will say this too, And
I was talking to Jonathan Garnard in the locker room
about this yesterday. They in that Lions game, they did
a ton of dropping the edge rushers and Jonathan Garnard
was dropping in the coverage way more than he would
like to, than he ever does, and he was willing
to do it because it's what led to the victory.
And like Gernard yesterday talking to him, he's like, I
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we don't care at this point, I don't care what
my sack number is as long as we are generating wins.
And I think when you when you are at that
place as a team, you feel you feel pretty good.
But you're right, like that conversation is correct. Javon Hargrave
is one of going to want to create sacks and
is gonna be in coming upon him and the rest
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of that front on Sunday to just be very mindful,
very aware of where Lamar is at all time.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, and I think I mean he he takes more
than three sacks a game. Lamar does, so you're you're
gonna get to mash on him a little bit. But
I'm almost curious if this is one of those games
where it's get your hands up, whether it's Jalen Redman,
let's all take a note from Levi Drake Rodriguez and
blocking that kid, like get your hands up, versus forcing
Lamar into a spot ultimately that is advantageous to him
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when he gets outside. Let's make it tough on Lamar
at the line where if you're Hargrave and Allen and Redman,
et cetera, and even on the edge, like this is
a good knockdown game, like batted passes at the line,
and that's in the midst of forcing Lamar to do
something he doesn't want to do, which is kind of
just hang in the pocket and try to be a quarterback.
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Speaker 4 (16:51):
And finally, before.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The former game changing linebacker arrives, Jack Greenway, I should
be here within the next ten minutes. Nordo and I
were discussing the Vikings offense yesterday and and and and
a team speed related advantage that I'm convinced the Vikings
have in this game. Uh, with Naylor Addison Hawkinson doing
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he's a fast tight end. But let's let's just think
Addison Naylor, Jefferson Jones limited in practiced yesterday. We'll learn
more today. But of the backs, he's the speedier of
the two. And and man, i'd like you know that
that that run the runs that they use with Jordan
Addison or when they put Jefferson in the backfield and
you watch back all the offensive plays multiple times, so
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you see what edge guys, linebackers and safeties are doing
when Jefferson's back there, So do I They start to
tripping out a little bit, and there are a lot
of things off which you can do. You can do
when you have that formation now. I you know, yesterday
I went back to the London game and and it's
Jalen Naylor's only run this year went for sixteen yards.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It was effortless.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I'd like to see them run him certain ways, you know,
Jeck sweets and rounds or versus whatever. I'd like to
see them utilize that speed ten of ten against this
version of a defense they're facing this week.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
And what do you think? Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I mean their front is not like the Browns in London,
where that front plays just vertical attacking, you know, hair
on fire. This Ravens front is more of your big body.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Kind of occupy gaps.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
They'll play Kyle Hamilton on the edge and if you
run a jet sweep towards him, he will sniff it out.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I mean he sees stuff yeah, pretty clearly.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
But you're right they're using Hamilton this year ways they
never have. But I don't think it's revelatory where it's like, hey,
look at what he can do.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I think i'd argue that well. I think they're.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Using him as a linebacker hybrid kind of Metellus type
because they lack speed in their front seven and they
need that youthful vigor.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
You're right, they're like defensive front edge rusher's interior offensive line.
Excuse me, interior defensive line. Those guys are not menacing.
Now they acquired Draymont Jones, he'll probably play in the game.
Is he spectacular?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Is he more capable than the guys they've had, Yes,
But Kyle Hamilton, so this entire like, if you look
at Ravens defensive statistics for this year, you're probably not
going to be blown away. But this is an entirely
different unit than what they were three weeks ago. Why
they acquired a Lowie Gillman from the Chargers. He plays
the deep safety, which allowed them to move Kyle Hamilton
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near the line of scrimmage. And Kyle Hamilton is like
Andrew Van Ginkel in safety form.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
He just sniffs out stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
He's versatile, he gets into Crevice's he's just a really
good player, and so that has transformed their defense in
a way that makes this team overall more dynamic than
they were really.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
For a lot of this year.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
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We got witnesses. We got plenty of witnesses now, but
can we have more? Per Chad green Way, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Unbelievable. Hello, got chills? What's up? Big am? I playing
this weekend? What's going on now? I don't know, but
you know what's gonna happen right now? Oh? Down memory
Lane we go. Who do we play this week? Okay?
The Ravens, Baltimore Ravens. This could be good or bad?
Uh no, it's uh well bad the way he no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, mostly good. You played the Ravens twice. You went
one and one against the Ravens. You beat him in
O nine. In nine you had ten tackles. They were
all solo tackles, ten tackles, ten solos.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Hold I mean that so the boy can't give me
a couple of cisket that think the twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
People are like ray Lewis, who ed Reid? Where we
got Chack Greenway running all over the place. Now that
was the game underrated Halshka, the former Vikings kicker missed
it the wire. Yeah, the third game of the year.
So that nine team improves to uh to three and ozero.
Now what's interesting is the quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens
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that day, Joe Flacco, The same guy just went for
four seventy and four last Sunday against the Chicago Bear.
Your favorite quarterback right ever play the game. My level
of respect for Joe Flacco is ten of ten. How
can it not be?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You love it?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I mean, I expect new schoolers like you to not
appreciate history, equity or like those who came before you.
But that's why you have Chad and I because sixteen
years later he's going for four to seventy and four
is right when you played Flacco there then subsequently in thirteen,
did you know that he'd be like a Super Bowl
MVP and he was.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Like high end, No, did not know that, but you
he just had that prototypical statue type quarterback, but yet
gets it, does not get the credit for his pocket
mobility and ability to throw the ball. Now, arm talent's incredible,
and the dude just keeps.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Making place sixteen years from that point is crazy. I
think I'm believing.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
But you think about the quarterback position, like you allowed
with the rules and the changes like in the protection,
like you don't really get hit that much anymore, and
if you do get hit, it's gotta be like you
have to be a kindly set down on the ground,
damp gently so like he's gonna play for another three
or four years, Like why wouldn't you have paint him
a bunch of money?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And now twenty thirteen, all right, anybody remember the Vikings
at the Ravens in twenty thirteen, that snow game with
all the points in the.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Fourth quarter because fans in the back.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I've said this to Donordo before, maybe Chad Greenway. From
a betting standpoint, all right, if like for whatever the reason,
into the game, you looked at the over under and
then you played the weather game and you're like, you
know what, I think it's gonna be windy and snowy
that day, but it doesn't exactly look that way, but
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it could hit. So I'm gonna smash this under, all right.
Whatever the total in the game was. So how about
this twenty thirteen at M and T Banks Stadium. The
Ravens who won the game. They led the Vikings seven
to three at halftime. At the end of three quarters,
it was seven to six Ravens. The final score was
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twenty nine to twenty six Ravens. There were forty two
points scored in the fourth quarter. If you played an
under in that game, you should never bet again. I mean,
that's pretty much the end of the equation because that
thing went soaring over. Chad had eleven tackles in that
game and an interception. All you do is intercept Joe Flacco.
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All you do is have big games against the Ravens
that that has to be won. You'll never forget that game.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Was incredible from the jump with the snow that just
pouring down the first first down of the game. We'll
never forget beause I'm like, you know, this was twenty thirteen.
We had technology, We had nice things like how can
they miss the first down by like two and a
half feet and it got He just goes booms with
one of these. You're like, Okay, this is gonna be
a long day.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
And then and all of a sudden, the clouds clear,
the field is cleared off, and then all of a
sudden we have audi cool back of the end zone.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
You know, trauma at the end of that game. What
do you might have passed?
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Interference during that drive was a BS call of you
gotta put the game.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
When he touched down on Audie Cole, you should have
to say he was near that spot. Was a good
passing catch Marlon Brown, and it was just it was
just an incredible fourth quarter. Okay, the ups and downs,
the back and forth, the long scores. It was a
sweet game.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah. That was a catch with like seven eight second. Yeah,
that was traumatic. Well thirteen it was Martelli's Bennett. Week two.
It was the Browns and Jordan Cameron is hitting the
wire mccameron.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Oh yeah, that that fourth quarter had I don't know
how long it was a Cordaryl Patterson's screen. It was
like seventy yards, like seventy some odd yardsby Gerhart though
he went for a long one Jacoby Jones on a
kick return from like ninety. I mean, it was an
unbelievably fun game outside of the outcome. Now in closing here,
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and I think it it's analogous to the Sunday game
involving the Ravens running game.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
But three tight ends.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
All right, So in that twenty thirteen game that you
lost twenty nine to twenty six, you had an unbelievably
good game. Ed Dixon, Dennis Pitta, and Marlon Brown. Those
were the three to three of the tight ends for
the Ravens. They all caught touchdowns. Who was on that roster?
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Going to shock you hot Teep did not play because
he was just moved over from the Colts. Wow Dallas Clerk,
Oh wow, I was native and he didn't play.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Didn't play? All right?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Well, Pitta, Dixon, and Brown all had touchdowns. So I mean,
I guess they were all a lot of calls fallow.
Oh yeah, gosh, wasn't me? Must not pull up the
all twenty two. So in this game, the Ravens with
Andrews and likely and the three tight ends they used
with this three hundred pound fall back Patrick Ricard, Eric
Henry's two fifty two, So you got a quarter ton
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of jumbo package coming at you with the fullback and
the running back, but the tight ends too. I think
what happened in twenty thirteen with the way they used
their tight ends is kind of analogous to this weekend,
with this befeeding bunch of ravens coming in here at
three and five.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And good morning.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
By the way, what I would say is if this
was a week before this last game against Detroit, we'd
have the same conversation we had last week.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
But then all of a sudden, you go.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Play Detroit in Detroit, and you're like, wait a second,
is this the football team that we thought we had
in September when we started this game, or the season
previous t injuries, previous to ban Ginkle, the Cashman bit,
the whole I mean, the whole deal. And all of
a sudden, you go to Detroit and you're the most
physical team in the building. You run the football, you
stop the run, you make the plays.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
AJ's getting energy in the end of the game.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Now you look at this game and say, hey, if
we could slow down the beef, right, if we can
match up to the three tight end sets and get
the pullback on an edge and bring down the horse
in the back, which was how I knew that I
should retire. When Derek Henry came in the NFL, I'm like, Yep,
the game's moved past.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Wait, that's right.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You played against him in his first game at tennesseeon He's.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Like, like, he's just an absolute problem.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, that's what I was saying. You were joking at
the beginning. It's like, oh, feel this vibe with the crowd?
Am I playing this weekend? How much would it cost
to get you to lace him up and just sit
there and try and tackle Derreck Henry?
Speaker 7 (29:06):
First of all, look at me. I could give you
twenty right now. Easy, I give you twenty snaps all
day long. But that would that's all I could give you. Yeah,
And I would prefer them to be on third down
when Derek Henry is not in the game passing down. Actually,
I'd prefer not to have to hit Patrick McCard again
at fullback in my life. That definitely is I'm in
retirement mode on that one. Is this this could be
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the battle of fullbacks of CJ back.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, he's been limited two days, but I kind of
I think he'll be back. Might be Ham versus Riccard
here in this game. It's kind of thought.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
But I like full backs, full back CJ's game. H Yes,
I think we've missed his presence and time from a
love particular.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Uh, that was great. I was thinking that because you're
talking about tackling Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah. I was thinking before the Lions.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Game, like we were out at practice maybe the day before,
and Cash's out there. I'm like, this guy's body is
about to go through just mate, like carnage, and I
don't like I was just I mean, it's one of
those days where I'm standing out there practice, not really
doing anything, thinking like how could you possibly lay it
on the line like that and then somehow recover in
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five days.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I mean, I know it's so general and you dealt
with it for.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Yeah, but you do when you when you when you
kind of take step back and look at the perspective
of like you do this for sixteen weeks and there's
I think for eight years in a row, like eight
and a half years in a row, I did miss
a game. You're playing linebacker, You're playing so many snaps,
over thousands of snaps a game of a year, and
then your body just continues to come back, and you
understand why. You get war down all of a sudden,
you turn thirty one, thirty two, your body can't recover.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
All of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
You get up on Wednesday when you have practice that day,
you're like, oh Lord, like, how I'm gonna get this done?
And there were days that you did not know how
you're gonna get through practice, but you knew they did.
To get through Wednesday, you would just feel better. You
get your body moving, you get the eights and pigs
out of the way, you come in, you take care
of your body. Obviously, you recover, you jump in cold
tub and all the everything would just melt away. Sure,
probably have to jump in the hot tub the next morning.
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You get loosened up. And it's just one of those
things you just constantly are dealing with recovery to yourself
back because at that point, like it is an absolute battle.
And some games, like this game, you are gonna feel it.
You're coming off the Detroit game where you're going back
to back weeks. Yeah, by the way, we have a
bunch of guys coming off injuries where you're gonna have
two of the most physical teams in the NFL back
to back, And when I looked at that stretch before
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we beat the Lions, was like physical physical, You're gonna
play another physical game in a couple weeks, Like this
is gonna be this is gonna be a toe to
toe battle.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Can I ask you something about that that Lions game?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And we talked about it a big yesterday with your
guy Lieber Andrew van Ginkel returning from injury, and you
see all the snaps and he's making plays immediately, making
an impact on the game. But there was a moment
where Khalif Raymond rolls in and just smacks some kind
of blind sides him a bit, puts him on his back.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
He still makes the tackle on the gifts find way.
It was a terrific play.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But there was just kind of the idea that the
word dirt you be bandied out, you know, bandied about
over the course of the week. Like, you know, I
don't see Khaliff Raymond as an inherently dirty player per se,
But is there an element where when a guy returns
from injury, like specifically, let's say on offense, like you know,
Derrick Henry's coming back from an ankle, like when you
when you try to tackle, you're gonna try and make
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sure that that ankle's okay.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Right, Well, you want to check how do you approach?
You want to check it out.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
But you you might say that before the game, say hey,
this guy's got a bum ankle.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
When you go after him, you're gonna go You're gonna
go low. You want to twist, or so you might.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
You might have that conversation in passing, and then the
game starts and you realize how hard it is to
target one specific part of the body when there's a million.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Things going on.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
You're coming off a block, you go tackle this freak
in the in the flat like I'm just gonna get
this guy down at some point, hopefully and if I don't,
hopefully my boys come and save me. Like this idea,
like that it was on purpose, and because Van Gigle's
come back from injury, I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
But these plays do happen in football all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
So you're saying the guy who when he got the
job said that we're gonna eat kneecaps or work gonna
break down.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
What did he say? How do you put it? We're
gonna bite, bite, then we're gonna bite kneecaps.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You're telling me, maybe one of the two most important
players to the Minnesota Vikings defense missing five games because
of a neck, and you got Khalif Raymond cracking him
the way Khalif Raymond never cracks anybody neck snaps, neck
hits ground. You're telling me Dan Campbell was not pushing
the envelope just to make sure this guy is squared
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away off the injury layout.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
I'm telling you he did not do that on purpose. Now,
I think that that play might have been set to
set the tone on Ben Ginkle to say hey.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Like well, like welcome back.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
I can agree with you to say it's gonna be
a test, yeah, to see where he's at, but at
the same time, like for it to be done in
a cheap way.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I just can't find saying no.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I'm not saying yeah, yeah, I'm not saying that he's
like go out there and cheap shot him.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
I think it was a test to your point, but
I don't think it was like a like, hey, let's
go lowest, I'm trying to hurt this guy.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
No, yeah, it was more of a let's go test him.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
I agree with that the Lions do play on a
I mean if they I mean the they are on
the line.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I mean it's it's like I mean.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
That sine Dan Campbell film from when he played Imagine
playing against that mountain right, an absolute problem, and he
was like, you know, he's like a mean Jim Kleinsaucer, right,
you know, he's like he's the strongest, you know, he's
the he's gonna be the dirtiest. And he's not like
dirty in a way where it's like within the rules,
but like always on the edge of the line. That's
how he coaches the football team. And by the way,
that's what set them apart in the sea four or
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five years wherever how Along has been right, and it's
that physicality, that edge, that that kind of part of
football that we fell in love with. Now that the
game has certainly changed away from that, this would be
a mild mannered team.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Twenty years ago, everybody played this way.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
It's just that the game has changed so much that
all of a sudden we're like, this is this is different.
We're gon't be physical with a line of scrimmage. We're
gonna try to beat people up. What like that is football?
Coach Childress's first training camp. I was a part of
an six. All we did was beat the absolute bleep
out of each other for the first two weeks so
we could get tough to the line of scrimmage to
be the best football team.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
That was normal.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Now it's abnormal because you don't do it. They do
it elk River. Though you do it in elk River.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
They'll be doing it Saturday Titan formation the playoffs, won't
they elk River make a little noise.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I've heard about the the the power team or something.
It's like some hit you. Yeah, I was looking it.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Up, like, actually easier on the stream because you're up above.
If you're in the stands, they're standing along the rope.
You're standing by the rope. Here on that high school game,
you can't. You have no idea the ball is and
tell the guy you know blows the whistle.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I texted West Phillips, like you guys could put it.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Hey, I like that you actually he who is the
closest quarterback you ever played against? That would mirror, mimic
or in some ways do what Lamar Jackson does. From
an athleticism standpoint, the only name that pops in my head,
and we we mentioned him, PA mentioned him.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yes, you're like a Michael Vick.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I'm just trying to I mean, now it's it feels
like the massive trend, of course, is more and more qbs.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Maybe the majority of them are closer to.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Being more of the athletic make plays with your feet
while eyes downfield.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, Lamar is a running quarterback.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But exactly to that point, which was kind of more
of the case years ago where they were more unicorn like, like,
can is it maybe just Vic? Is there anybody else
you can think of that they were gonna they were
gonna pressure you with the run, maybe even more so
than than they do through the air.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean college football has changed the NFL.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
What it's producing in the RPO game and the running
quarterbacks and the athletes, the Jayden Daniels, the guys the
Lamar Jackson coming in the league has changed the NFL
because all of a sudden, what are we gonna go get?
We don't have a bunch of Joe Flacco's coming out
right sitting back there patting the ball five step drops.
We have guys coming out being athletic. Now, all of
a sudden, as the defensive Cord and I say, okay,
I gotta do with him running the ball. He might
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go down the line and pull it and have a
deep ball down the sidelines like he could do everything.
So Mike Vick's a good example and knowing goal with
Mike Vick was just not going to his highlight tape
because he was an absolute problem, Like you.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Had no idea what was gonna happen. I'll just the
laser of an arm.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
I remember Jamarca Sanford got broke off by Mike Victim
was just like, ooh, make tackle. Yeah, the key is
just just take a.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Shot at him.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
If you miss, you miss, but don't don't try to
be Mike Vick. If you break down, he's going to
beat you. By the way, I mean, so, I think
Cam Newton would be somewhat of an example.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
It's just a Cam was more.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Cam was Cam on there, the hat guy. He was
just so big and physical but yet athletic and facts
where he would keep it. And he was a running quarterback.
Yeah on third and one or two, like they can't,
They're gonna use Cam to get the first down. It's
the same thing we should be doing with our quarterback.
By the way, which with his feet were so important
last week in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Let's put our.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Guy in that spot because it's hard to defend. Like,
let him run some rpo stuff and get down the
line of scrimmage and make that end make a choice,
like we can do that, and it gets him in
the game, and it gets him fired up. And we
like when JJ's fired up and with emotion because he
plays better.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
You mentioned it last I'll let pig nine comes out.
You mentioned, yeah, nine ninety nine bits dom.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
You mentioned last week using his legs, and they do it.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
In that moment.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah, and he scrambles for the touchdown. I was thinking
of as he did that. It was like you were
yelling for it last week the champ as well.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
It's just so hard to defend when you add an
element where this guy can run. Now, all of a sudden,
you can play man coverage and your back is turned.
You better have a spy. Now, all of a sudden,
you pull a guy on the rush because you have
to spy him, because I'm worried about for that. Now,
all of a sudden, you have three guys rushing. Now
your old line is just it's just easier. I mean,
or you said pressure aut him because he's young guy.
We're gonna cover all these gaps up. We're gonna make
a plan, and that's really what you have to do
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from Nobson standpoints. So I just like mixing some of
that in early and all of a sudden the corner
of saying, wait a second, there's another element here.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
We have to see Jack Greenway. Ladies and gentlemen, Jack Greenway.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
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Speaker 4 (38:57):
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Speaker 1 (39:14):
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Speaker 4 (39:19):
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Speaker 1 (39:22):
The first A very special Happy thirty fifth birthday, Josh Melton.
Happy birthday, Josh, from your wife Hope, who absolutely loves you.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Round of applause. Is my man's birthday.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
He's at the feast, all right, Happy birthday, Happy birthday.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Secondly, secondly, my man here, I don't know his name.
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Speaker 1 (39:44):
He's here to talk about hockey for a second, It's
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some noise.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
What is what is that?
Speaker 8 (39:56):
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all around the United States. So we're just here if
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that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
All right, so they're members of said squatch. You're sitting
right here with the sweet sweaters, by the way, love
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more about the squad.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
It's just the Minnesota Squatch dot com. I assume. Yeah, thanks,
good luck, all right, thank you your guests.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
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as we mentioned earlier, Elk River High School has a
big high school football game this weekend again Elks Minneapolis Washburn.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
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Speaker 1 (40:52):
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Speaker 7 (41:00):
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Now back to the lesson at hand.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
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here we are Buffalo wild Wings. Cookie Man round up.
Applause for the Cookie Man over there bringing bring in
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Speaker 4 (41:42):
Shout out, sets you can fly.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I know I'm gonna gain ten pounds every football season
because of the Friday Football Feast, because of Cookie Man.
His cookies are unbelievably you look, you think I'm not
going to put ten of those down tonight watching Timberwolves
in Utah, gyp. Come on, man Man, chilled milk, We're good.
Let me ask this question, then the surrogate's gonna have
at it. But when it comes to scheming or preparing
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for a football game, how much more difficult or tricky
is it preparing for an AFC team for a team
from the NFC North an AFC team compared to a
team from your division like the Lions.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
It's definitely different because obviously we play a team twice,
you see them.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
More often, you know their tendencies more.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
Obviously, it depends on coaching change and shift is all
the thing that happens every year. But when you see
a team less often, right, when you see a team
once every four years, it just gets to be a bigger.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Challenge on how you're going to do with it.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Now.
Speaker 7 (42:38):
Obviously, the rate these Ravens are a problem in several ways,
and I think when when you look at it, you
got to go and do a deep dive and trust
your staff who's put the research in and done the
film study on what these guys do from a Tennessee
standpoint out of their different formations and looks. You know,
because every time you go to a buy a week,
what's the team going to do? They're gonna self scout?
What do we do too often? What are our taels?
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And I think when you do that, you know that's
why some staffs are better than others. By the way,
the Raven staff is really good, so they know how
to self scout, They know how important this stretch of
their season is to get back into this thing. This
is a huge game for both teams. I'm excited to
see how we handle it. I'm excited to see the
new wrinkles that we put in, but I'm also excited
to see how we can defend some of their stuff
that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Well, I'm kind of curious, so so Brian Flores what
we saw from his defense last week against a divisional opponent. Flores,
it's not Ben Johnson anymore, but he's seen that team,
He's seen those weapons, and you could feel that there
were very specific, almost like off season barnapkins and pockets,
like I'm gonna I'm gonna have this ready for when
we face the kiddies, And thankfully it worked out right
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we win the game.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
But when you do face that AFC opponent, you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Wrinkles, But I almost I'm almost thinking, in some ways,
does it get simplified over the course, Like at a
base level, you're going into a game with a lot
of unknowns and maybe a lot of plans to attack
once those things reveal themselves. But it is it almost
like we start a little more simplistic and then we
dig deep in adjust throughout the game, maybe adding.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
To the difficulty of the challenge. Yeah, I mean, so
that's what you know.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
You go to training camp, you put in your base stuff,
your base coverages, your base defense is your base fronts,
and you have the wrinkles you put in the which
is a part of your defense. And then you go
you go game play somebody and now you're gonna go
and you're gonna pick something from a training camp that
you put it in and say, hey, remember this, we're
gonna put this back in and reinstall it this week,
and we're gonna add a wrinkle because Lamar can run
it right, and we're gonna we're gonna do this, and
we're gonna do that. We're gonna add this pressure because
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we like that he's weak off, you know, looking off
the back side.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
You can't throw his left as well.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
Whatever it is that they have found, and they'll add
that wrinkle into the playbook and then they'll reinstall it
this week throughout their week. So you go on your
first day is first and second down on Wednesday, and
on Thursday you can do third down, short yardage, et cetera.
You kind of build throughout your week to add these
wrinkles in and you're more bolting things on to what
your fundamentals are than adding something completely new. Now, I
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think what's interesting about like that. What I asked for
last week defensively was just do less, like don't don't
get yourself in this position where you're trying to do
too much and you're making stakes. And now those guys
are these teams which are really good, are finding the mistakes.
These quarterbacks are so good, they're gonna find where that
guy his eyes were bad. He's gonna throw over the
top of you. Now, Lamar brings a whole nother gamut
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when he can run the football. So it's like to me,
a fast start offensively is so important to play ahead
of ahead of these guys.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
If you can get and then and then again.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
Can you can you can you run the football and
force Lamar to beat you with his arm. Let's check
his playoff record and we know what happens when he
gets find the chains and he has to throw to
beat you. They want to run the football and establish
that ground game. We have to focus and have a
game plan very similar to last week.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
I just want to ask you about Eric Wilson. Uh,
this guy second on the vikings in pressures behind Jonathan Garnard.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Love it.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
He was incredible in that game, making tackles on Jamier
Gibbs on the edge. Not an easy thing to do.
Just what have you thought watching this guy who was
signed to be a special teams ace? Yeah, and now
he's playing the majority the like the Lion's share of
linebackers to Blake.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yeah, and he's earned it.
Speaker 7 (46:01):
I mean, this is not when you're a special teams
guy in your career, it's hard to get out of that. Hey,
you're just a special teams guy, like very few have
ever done it. And I think when he is now
a linebacker that we're going to look to say he's
a playmaker, he's a problem. He is an absolute physical
specimen freak in new locker room, it's.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Like body, you would you like, how many guys would
you need to take on that guy?
Speaker 7 (46:23):
It doesn't even make sense genetically like that him and
I are the same species, like it, this is ridiculous.
And but now you look at an Eric Kendrick at
a great post on Instagram about him, just how like.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
He's just always been good. This is not new.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
If you're around in the locker room like at practice,
he's good and Trinny Camp. He's good and he gets
an opportunity last he's good. He's splashy off this year
and he's flashy and like he's but he's also solid, stable,
making these really hard tackles against Jamiey Gibbs were the
best guys.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
In space in the league.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
Like he played a massive role in last week, and
he's gonna play a bigger role this week with what
they're gonna do and what and honestly, what we're gonna
ask him to do defensively because they have Lamar? How
are we gonna spy How are we gonna approach his
running hit when we want to play man coverage and
everybody's backs are turned. How are we gonna stop Lamar
from pulling the ball down and going getting a first down? Yeah,
you gotta spy him. You gotta be smart on your
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rush lanes. You can't get above the quarterback let him
spin out like you gotta cage rush him to keep
him in.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Is there an element to this where so last week
we saw a couple of safeties both Theo Jackson at
times and Harrison Smith And we've seen this from two
to two forever where he'll come up pre snap to
the line. Is he gonna blitz? What's he gonna do?
And then he just bails out. I almost feel bad
with him. He has to run like one hundred yards
pre snap just to get into his spot. But one
thing we didn't see is a lot of window dressing
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or pre snab motions, specifically from the linebackers. We weren't switching,
and maybe that's the simplicity that you were talking about.
Is that a game to game situation where it's like
Goff is just so damn smart, and he's seen this
team so much, he's seen Floras so much. We're just
going to disguise by chilling, whereas maybe be against the Lamar,
maybe against the Ravens defense. You know, forget game plans
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or intelligence or anything. It's just he doesn't know Floras
the way that maybe the Lions do that. Maybe that's
where we see some more pre snap motion and we
attempt to confuse the runner.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
Remember when Golf was with Jeff Fisher and nobody was
scared of them at all. Yeah, and then now now
we're in Detroit and we have all these you know,
crazy Jeff Jared Goff's the smartest guy and just winning
games all the time. Here's what I'll say about that,
They're gonna identify on film what Lamar struggles with pre snap.
They have a little center that's really really good at football.
He might be an iowahaw gye as well, who is
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he is one of the best players in the league
that nobody knows about.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
But it's so strange because he's so athletic, and he's
under and he has these creatures fall up and right. Yeah,
so you remember twist you do?
Speaker 7 (48:50):
You know Tristan Wurf's tackle for the Bucks, right Worfs
or Linderbaum beat Worfs in high school state wrestling in Iowa. Wow,
imagine that those two stuff. So my point being is
you want to know how to play with leverage. He
knows how to play with leverage. He's smart. So my
point bringing him up is what makes what makes that
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quarterback really good identifying what's gonna happen is having a
center who is prepared really good and knows what he's
doing and gets his old line set, gets that running
back to block the edge because we're not sure what
we're gonna get, but we're gonna make sure we get
this protection set. The right way to protect Lamar. And
then so those guys working together, that communication is gonna
be massive. But I promise you Bflow has identified some
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spots we can get after Lamar where we think we
can trick him, and.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
We're gonna use twenty two.
Speaker 7 (49:36):
I guarantee you along with me, tell us to give
him some looks and be creative. And I think I
think it's gonna be a tricky A tricky one here.
A sneaky one is that interior rush against an athletic
quarterback is so big. When we get that pressure, what's
he want to do? Spin out and get outside. Ends
have to be smart. Ends have to hold the edge
and they cannot let him get outside and get be athletic.
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He's gonna do it a couple of times, but it
cannot be a problem for us throughout the game.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Okay. In closing, help me with this, Maybe help us
with this.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
And I brought it up several times this week, and
the low hanging fruit would be all right with with Cashman,
Van Ginkol and grenard On.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
He's so good.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Javon Hargrave has played two games with those guys. He
has three sacks in those two games. All right, his
snapcount went from eighteen to like twenty two to like
what thirty nine hot mid to high thirties in this
last game. All right, so snapcount went way up, he responded. So,
from an interior defensive player standpoint, rushing, stopping the run
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or whatever, exactly of what you said minimizes the potency
of a player like Lamar Jackson. Why why is it
so important for Hargrave to have forty three point fifty
one and fifty eight.
Speaker 7 (50:53):
Yeah, you just gotta trust where everybody's gonna be playing
with somebody to understand how they're gonna approach a gap
in a scheme. You know, you played the scheme now
through training camp and through the first part of the season,
and you understand where that d lineman is gonna be.
It's actually more on the linebackers to adjust. So if
I know how hard Gray is gonna play us a block,
I know he can hold up against the double team.
If I'm gonna get scooped with two linemen, like, how
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he's gonna be able to hold up against that. Now,
as a linebacker, I could adjust to that. So, for example,
I knew how Kevin was gonna take on that scoop block.
I knew he was gonna be over way too athletic
for those old linemen. He isn't going to stay in
front of those guys and be hard on that guard
trying to get out because that center can't reach him.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Now, all of a sudden, I can come.
Speaker 7 (51:30):
Downhill harder if I get that guard pushed off of Kevin.
Now Kevin's gonna slide that gap. I'm gonna be downhill, wow.
And Kevin's gonna mak Kevin's gonna make the play now.
So playing with these guys now, as good as our
backers have been, you just you're able to feed off
of each other. And it's about if I want to
make a d lineman make a play, how can I
get that lineman off of him to make him unengaged,
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And all of a sudden he's one on one with
the center. Now we like that, right because again Linda
Baum's really good, but we like it being a one
one situation with our cared deeply to lineman. So those
are the things you learned off playing off each other.
And also how much of that was an impact just
schematically the flow of the game last week, All of
a sudden.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
We're not playing from behind the whole game like Zach.
Speaker 7 (52:11):
We actually almost beat them in plays, which we still
didn't somehow, but we were closer. Like the flow of
the game matters so much on who's playing, what personnel,
how many third downs are we getting to are we
getting the stopped? You know, first and second out, so
third and twelve. Now the rush package comes out, so
a lot of that plays into what what snaps he's
taking as well.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Wow that I mean, hey, yeah, that was the Eleite
analysis right.
Speaker 5 (52:32):
There, talking about being able to trust you know where
that was was?
Speaker 4 (52:36):
That was good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
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Speaker 4 (52:41):
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Speaker 7 (52:42):
Just you know, we've been so bought into Minnesota and
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you're gonna support the bikes this week. Elk River's got
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you think? Yes, I think we should go grab it.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
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Speaker 4 (53:02):
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Speaker 1 (53:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Nothing to say.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh, here comes Miles Price up the center to the thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Holly shakes a tack.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
With the forty, gets out to the right to the
fifty hen Lions territory to the thirty five yard line.
Miles Price with the longest kick return of his young
career that goes for fifty nine yards and the Minnesota
Vikings punch back with a kick return seven zero Lions.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
First and goal Minnesota from the nine. McCarthy out of
the shotgun, throws right to the end zone. Cot tot dis.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
A one handed catch. Bye.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Justin Jefferson and the Minnesota Vikings. You're an extra point
from tie in the game. Wait to go, Jay j
McCarthy Jesus first and goal from the seven. McCarthy out
of the shotgun percent in motion to the left. They
take a hand off to JJ and McCarthy rolls out
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to the right, fires to the episode.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Touch down thumber line.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
J Hockinson catches that fine arm pass ball from JJ.
McCarthy and the Minnesota Vikings have taken a thirteen.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Seven leads.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Simmers down Jared Goff out of the shot gun from
his thirty looking left.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Here's a Blintz Goffice.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Hit and Jared goffas decked back at the twenty three
yard line.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Silence ensues at port Field third down, third and six from.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The Viking forty six, where Jared Goff out of the
shot down the three receivers to the right. Gibbs stands
to the right of Goff, Loamoriga opposite Grenard to the
left snap Vikings Blitz Cashman got through and.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Jared doffhas deck o Dan.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Blake Cashman one of step to get through along with
the likes of Eric Wilson Javon Hargrave with a big rush.
Lions ain't gonna go for it on this fourth and sixteen. Instead,
they're gonna punt second and fifteen from the Vikings twenty two.
McCarthy out of the shot gun, pikes a handoff to
Mason loops it left to Jones. Great playing gets to
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the thirty by the sideline to the forty.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Aaron Jones chop.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Down at the fifty yard line and he falls ahead
of the Lions forty seven up catching run by Aaron
Jones thirty one.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yards perst down.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
To wait thirty thirteen from their own six. Need to
go off, He's gonna toss it left. Montgomery bobbles it,
turns it up outside the numbers in the file.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Hey sprockets Hey Harry the hit Man.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He picks it up at the thirty five angles to
the right and he's tackled by David Montgomery. The Vikings
get the first and take up this division collision and
they get the ball in Lions territory.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Harrison Smith with the fumble.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Recovery and for the Hitman, the tenth of his career
to Jordan Mason, the tail back to the wet of
the former Michigan Wolf Raine. JJ mccarthew takes the snap,
short drop, runs out to the right.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
What's he gonna do? He's gonna run ten five D
zone top dive.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Peace.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
JJ McCarthy put another rushing touchdown this season and the
Vikings I'm a twenty three fourteen leadsode Hey. Elk River, Minnesota,
Welcome to the Friday Football Food.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
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Speaker 1 (04:49):
Let's have a funky good time today and all throughout
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Speaker 4 (05:04):
Good to see you over there, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
To my left, around of applause for Engineer extraordinaire Jared Wells.
The street team is over there. That's Alec Lewis from
the Athletic around the applause. Eric nordquis mad producer from
nine to noon, and welcome to the Friday football Feast.
We got a lot of minutia to get into. But first,
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Speaker 2 (05:37):
Come on now, I almost hit a beer over there.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I hit three. Hey, hey, hi, all right, it hurts. Alec,
good morning, Hey, Paul Nod, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
So this is the biggest Buffalo wild Wings in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
JDub good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
How do we feel about JJ McCarthy into this one?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
J McCarthy at Ford Field?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
There we go JJ seasons what they call it, and
I'm gonna set it up like this. Alec, you first,
he well the team, but he the twenty two year
old quarterback, was quite hyped off the fourth quarter, he
and the team had its soldier field. Then we had
the home opener, against Atlanta and failed to generate a touchdown.
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So JJ back off the layoff. He and the team
hyped off a very big win at Detroit. How about
that win at ford Field?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You feel good about that?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And now he comes back home. So he comes back
home with a lot of local and national praise likewise
for the football team, and we are looking for full
game consistency like we found at Ford Field with JJ McCarthy.
He's back at home versus the Baltimore Ravens. What are
you thinking about all that, mister alec Lewis.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, I can't wait for the game.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I told somebody outside he gave me a Raven stat
that was spectacular.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I can't repeat it. It was. It was harsh, but
it was a stat.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
There was a guy he was not a really nice guy,
but he was telling me about how when you play
the Ravens, if you lose, just getting fired or so.
I don't really know what's going on, JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I just don't think, like, wait, what's the other side
of it? If you beat the Ravens, you make the
NFC North. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Found it to be rubbage, JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
In this game, I I expect him to be much
more comfortable, confident, and composed than he was in Week
two against the Falcons coming back home. Just feel like
the time that he had to sit and watch it
wasn't easy. But I you know, for him, because he
is a guy, and I wrote this after the game,
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like this guy does not like sitting, He does not
like not playing.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It really gets.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
To him because of how much he enjoys being in
the fight, and so there is an immense like just
pride that he takes and being out there. I just
I think for Kevin O'Connell in this game, you want
to keep him from having to make twenty throws in
the game. It's can you make seven to ten throws
in key moments, third downs, red zone throws? And if
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you can do that, I think the trajectory in the
path that it feels like he could go on these
last nine games.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
He will go on.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I tend to agree with you in terms of his
poise and maybe just being a little bit calmer, you know,
after NFC Player of the Week, it's his first game,
manufactures those three tds.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's more dramatic, it's soldier field than it had to be.
But as part of that poise.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I think he was talking about yesterday or the day
before when he chatted with the media. One thing he's
working on is being more accurate on the move when
he's on the run. Now, he was super accurate on
that touchdown pass to TJ.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Hawkins. That was that was umbeloo.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
He threw a freaking Yamamoto fastball over Justin Jefferson's head
while running.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Straight at him. Should have been easy pitch and catch.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
One thing that I'm looking for and I'm hoping that
it comes to fruition, is just being more accurate in general.
Like if you look back that throw he made near
side going right to left to Jordan Addison in coverage,
beautiful throw, the timing route and Justin Jefferson masterclass route
runner on the far side boundary.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I mean, as beautiful as it gets in real time.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
When he made that throw, and I'm sitting next to
Dame Mizzitania the Pioneer Press and I was like whoa.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I'm like screamed in the press spot. It was an
unbelievable throw.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
An extra Mead mugget because there's no cheering in the
press box. Yeah, I got my credential pulled, but more
more accurate in general. Like I in some ways, I
look at that pick that he threw and I'm thinking
I kind of need Jalen Naylor to secure that and
not turn that into the situation that it was in.
But some of those other moments, you know, while while
the pick was wonky, I'm thinking about in desperate fashion,
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that short throw he made to to TJ.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Hawkinson that was kind of lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And then that actual that the second pick that was
thrown but was bailed out by penalty.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
If you remember that later, that was not a good throw.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And so for part of that poise, part of him
handling the calm and being calmer at US Bank Stadium
this weekend, I think lends to him being more accurate
on the field.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That's the very first that'd be the a topic for me.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
If if I'm looking at like, what's another step for
mister McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Let's let's let's peer into Baltimore's offensive approach versus Brian
Florees defense. And when we get to I hop at
ten o'clock in honor of Paul as in Paul Charchi
and it's a fantasy bit running backs are the bill
of fare today and and when thinking running backs or
running games with Baltimore, you have in full back Patrick
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Ricard who's three hundred pounds, and tailback Derreck Henry's two
hundred and twenty two ish pounds. You're looking at five
hundred and twenty two pounds of beef coming as It's
a lot of beef behind a quarterback who also is
big and sturdy.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You say two twenty two. It might be heavier than
he looks. I think Derek Henry's nothing short of fifty five.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'd be two fifty two of them, But nevertheless, a
lot of beef. You got some quarter Ton Covenant come
Hills up in that mix, coming right at you.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
And neither one of those arrive at your house in
a box.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But nevertheless, you got three tight ends who are also
adept at run blocking. So Baltimore's offensive approach versus beat
flows defense.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
What y'all thinking about that?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I'm glad you mentioned the tight ends and Patrick Ricard
because this is a team that is going to do
what has given the Vikings some trouble throughout this season
in terms of they are going to play with heavy personnel.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
They're gonna play with two tight ends.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
They have Isaiah Likely, they have Mark Andrews, and then
they have a guy Charlie Kohler, who I did not
know before I watched the film, and I'm I'm not
sure how great he is, but they've got him catch.
And then they're gonna they're gonna go three tight ends,
thirteen personnel, and they're gonna go with you know, twenty
two personnel.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
They're gonna play with fullback.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
They're gonna play with multiple tight ends, and they're gonna
force you to stop the run out of those Look
they're also going to throw out of those lotes. I mean,
this Ravens offense does everything. They will spread you out,
they will smash mouth you vertically on the interior. So
it's a lot to be cognizant of. For me, it's
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can you contain can you stop the run first and foremost?
And then can you contain lamar and plaster and coverage
when he is scrambling and darting around the way he
the way he does? And you know, having Andrew van Geegle,
for me at least, it gives me a lot of
confidence that you can do that at a level that
I think they need.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
To Derrick Henry two hundred and fifty two pounds, Patrick
Requard three hundred. That is a quarter Ton Covenant. It's
a two man jumbo package coming at everything that's purple
and gold.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Did you just look up how many pounds is in
a ton? You were on your phone.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's kind of like now, we used to refer to
ourselves as the Quarterton Covenant, and we've tried to work
on our weight issues.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
You still got a wasting I feel like you for
week ten. You guys, look, I mean, spectacle.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Good season four. Just I just I mean the hair
looks good, that's for sure. But well you wouldn't believe
the girdle, the girdle I have on right now.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, anyway, and chastity belt.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, if you thought, if you thought the Eagles were
working you with Fred Johnson, if you thought the Steelers
and that mammoth mountainous tight end Darnell Washington was a problem,
you're right, man. The three tight ends and Recard like
how they're going to deploy them is going to be
the best of what we've kind of had trouble with
in twenty twenty five. Now, you know, with Lamar, it's
kind of playing the contained game. I am kind of
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interested because they they want to they want to work
in They they'd love to just run for three hundred
yards this weekend, and Flores is going to try to
mitigate that. But the issue if if they're any if
they're any bit successful on the run early, then that
play action game, like they'll want to get Lamar booting
out and then buy that extra second or two to
hit one of the seven tight ends on the field.
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And and and the crazy thing about this team where
where the Eagles kind of rely on Saquon greatness and
then huge explosives to.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
The highlight wide receivers. I kind of think, like the
Ravens are built.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
If you need to make them go seventeen plays, I
don't think they care because they can get explosive with
Zay Flowers and they have some of those elements, but
that's generally due to a coverage breakdown where they're more
than happy to get you four yards with Derrick Henry.
Then they're gonna hit you with some stupid outpass to
Justice Hill that goes for seven to the boundary and
he moves the chains and then there's gonna be a
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tight end that gets loose in a soft zone and
then now it's Mark Andrews for twenty five. So I
think the contain game with Lamar, Like you know, Javon
Hargrave has a tremendous game and you want him to
wreak havoc again, But there's kind of that that weird.
I guess nexus or it has to be synchronized where
Renard and Van Ginkel where they get that initial bull
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rush push.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
But then in some.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Ways it's like that sack could be right there, but
you can't take the cheese man if he's selfless.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Oh you got you gotta.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Play So Selvis and I will say this too, And
I was talking to Jonathan Garnard in the locker room
about this yesterday. They in that Lions game, they did
a ton of dropping the edge rushers and Jonathan Garnard
was dropping in the coverage way more than he would
like to, than he ever does, and he was willing
to do it because it's what led to the victory.
And like Gernard yesterday talking to him, he's like, I
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we don't care at this point, I don't care what
my sack number is as long as we are generating wins.
And I think when you when you are at that
place as a team, you feel you feel pretty good.
But you're right, like that conversation is correct. Javon Hargrave
is one of going to want to create sacks and
is gonna be in coming upon him and the rest
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of that front on Sunday to just be very mindful,
very aware of where Lamar is at all time.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, and I think I mean he he takes more
than three sacks a game. Lamar does, so you're you're
gonna get to mash on him a little bit. But
I'm almost curious if this is one of those games
where it's get your hands up, whether it's Jalen Redman,
let's all take a note from Levi Drake Rodriguez and
blocking that kid, like get your hands up, versus forcing
Lamar into a spot ultimately that is advantageous to him
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when he gets outside. Let's make it tough on Lamar
at the line where if you're Hargrave and Allen and Redman,
et cetera, and even on the edge, like this is
a good knockdown game, like batted passes at the line,
and that's in the midst of forcing Lamar to do
something he doesn't want to do, which is kind of
just hang in the pocket and try to be a quarterback.
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Speaker 4 (16:51):
And finally, before.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The former game changing linebacker arrives, Jack Greenway, I should
be here within the next ten minutes. Nordo and I
were discussing the Vikings offense yesterday and and and and
a team speed related advantage that I'm convinced the Vikings
have in this game. Uh, with Naylor Addison Hawkinson doing
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he's a fast tight end. But let's let's just think
Addison Naylor, Jefferson Jones limited in practiced yesterday. We'll learn
more today. But of the backs, he's the speedier of
the two. And and man, i'd like you know that
that that run the runs that they use with Jordan
Addison or when they put Jefferson in the backfield and
you watch back all the offensive plays multiple times, so
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you see what edge guys, linebackers and safeties are doing
when Jefferson's back there, So do I They start to
tripping out a little bit, and there are a lot
of things off which you can do. You can do
when you have that formation now. I you know, yesterday
I went back to the London game and and it's
Jalen Naylor's only run this year went for sixteen yards.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It was effortless.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I'd like to see them run him certain ways, you know,
Jeck sweets and rounds or versus whatever. I'd like to
see them utilize that speed ten of ten against this
version of a defense they're facing this week.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
And what do you think? Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I mean their front is not like the Browns in London,
where that front plays just vertical attacking, you know, hair
on fire. This Ravens front is more of your big body.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Kind of occupy gaps.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
They'll play Kyle Hamilton on the edge and if you
run a jet sweep towards him, he will sniff it out.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I mean he sees stuff yeah, pretty clearly.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
But you're right they're using Hamilton this year ways they
never have. But I don't think it's revelatory where it's like, hey,
look at what he can do.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I think i'd argue that well. I think they're.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Using him as a linebacker hybrid kind of Metellus type
because they lack speed in their front seven and they
need that youthful vigor.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
You're right, they're like defensive front edge rusher's interior offensive line.
Excuse me, interior defensive line. Those guys are not menacing.
Now they acquired Draymont Jones, he'll probably play in the game.
Is he spectacular?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Is he more capable than the guys they've had, Yes,
But Kyle Hamilton, so this entire like, if you look
at Ravens defensive statistics for this year, you're probably not
going to be blown away. But this is an entirely
different unit than what they were three weeks ago. Why
they acquired a Lowie Gillman from the Chargers. He plays
the deep safety, which allowed them to move Kyle Hamilton
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near the line of scrimmage. And Kyle Hamilton is like
Andrew Van Ginkel in safety form.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
He just sniffs out stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
He's versatile, he gets into Crevice's he's just a really
good player, and so that has transformed their defense in
a way that makes this team overall more dynamic than
they were really.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
For a lot of this year.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
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Speaker 1 (21:36):
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We got witnesses. We got plenty of witnesses now, but
can we have more? Per Chad green Way, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Unbelievable. Hello, got chills? What's up? Big am? I playing
this weekend? What's going on now? I don't know, but
you know what's gonna happen right now? Oh? Down memory
Lane we go. Who do we play this week? Okay?
The Ravens, Baltimore Ravens. This could be good or bad?
Uh no, it's uh well bad the way he no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, mostly good. You played the Ravens twice. You went
one and one against the Ravens. You beat him in
O nine. In nine you had ten tackles. They were
all solo tackles, ten tackles, ten solos.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Hold I mean that so the boy can't give me
a couple of cisket that think the twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
People are like ray Lewis, who ed Reid? Where we
got Chack Greenway running all over the place. Now that
was the game underrated Halshka, the former Vikings kicker missed
it the wire. Yeah, the third game of the year.
So that nine team improves to uh to three and ozero.
Now what's interesting is the quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens
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that day, Joe Flacco, The same guy just went for
four seventy and four last Sunday against the Chicago Bear.
Your favorite quarterback right ever play the game. My level
of respect for Joe Flacco is ten of ten. How
can it not be?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You love it?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I mean, I expect new schoolers like you to not
appreciate history, equity or like those who came before you.
But that's why you have Chad and I because sixteen
years later he's going for four to seventy and four
is right when you played Flacco there then subsequently in thirteen,
did you know that he'd be like a Super Bowl
MVP and he was.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Like high end, No, did not know that, but you
he just had that prototypical statue type quarterback, but yet
gets it, does not get the credit for his pocket
mobility and ability to throw the ball. Now, arm talent's incredible,
and the dude just keeps.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Making place sixteen years from that point is crazy. I
think I'm believing.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
But you think about the quarterback position, like you allowed
with the rules and the changes like in the protection,
like you don't really get hit that much anymore, and
if you do get hit, it's gotta be like you
have to be a kindly set down on the ground,
damp gently so like he's gonna play for another three
or four years, Like why wouldn't you have paint him
a bunch of money?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And now twenty thirteen, all right, anybody remember the Vikings
at the Ravens in twenty thirteen, that snow game with
all the points in the.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Fourth quarter because fans in the back.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I've said this to Donordo before, maybe Chad Greenway. From
a betting standpoint, all right, if like for whatever the reason,
into the game, you looked at the over under and
then you played the weather game and you're like, you
know what, I think it's gonna be windy and snowy
that day, but it doesn't exactly look that way, but
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it could hit. So I'm gonna smash this under, all right.
Whatever the total in the game was. So how about
this twenty thirteen at M and T Banks Stadium. The
Ravens who won the game. They led the Vikings seven
to three at halftime. At the end of three quarters,
it was seven to six Ravens. The final score was
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twenty nine to twenty six Ravens. There were forty two
points scored in the fourth quarter. If you played an
under in that game, you should never bet again. I mean,
that's pretty much the end of the equation because that
thing went soaring over. Chad had eleven tackles in that
game and an interception. All you do is intercept Joe Flacco.
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All you do is have big games against the Ravens
that that has to be won. You'll never forget that game.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Was incredible from the jump with the snow that just
pouring down the first first down of the game. We'll
never forget beause I'm like, you know, this was twenty thirteen.
We had technology, We had nice things like how can
they miss the first down by like two and a
half feet and it got He just goes booms with
one of these. You're like, Okay, this is gonna be
a long day.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
And then and all of a sudden, the clouds clear,
the field is cleared off, and then all of a
sudden we have audi cool back of the end zone.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
You know, trauma at the end of that game. What
do you might have passed?
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Interference during that drive was a BS call of you
gotta put the game.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
When he touched down on Audie Cole, you should have
to say he was near that spot. Was a good
passing catch Marlon Brown, and it was just it was
just an incredible fourth quarter. Okay, the ups and downs,
the back and forth, the long scores. It was a
sweet game.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah. That was a catch with like seven eight second. Yeah,
that was traumatic. Well thirteen it was Martelli's Bennett. Week two.
It was the Browns and Jordan Cameron is hitting the
wire mccameron.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Oh yeah, that that fourth quarter had I don't know
how long it was a Cordaryl Patterson's screen. It was
like seventy yards, like seventy some odd yardsby Gerhart though
he went for a long one Jacoby Jones on a
kick return from like ninety. I mean, it was an
unbelievably fun game outside of the outcome. Now in closing here,
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and I think it it's analogous to the Sunday game
involving the Ravens running game.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
But three tight ends.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
All right, So in that twenty thirteen game that you
lost twenty nine to twenty six, you had an unbelievably
good game. Ed Dixon, Dennis Pitta, and Marlon Brown. Those
were the three to three of the tight ends for
the Ravens. They all caught touchdowns. Who was on that roster?
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Going to shock you hot Teep did not play because
he was just moved over from the Colts. Wow Dallas Clerk,
Oh wow, I was native and he didn't play.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Didn't play? All right?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Well, Pitta, Dixon, and Brown all had touchdowns. So I mean,
I guess they were all a lot of calls fallow.
Oh yeah, gosh, wasn't me? Must not pull up the
all twenty two. So in this game, the Ravens with
Andrews and likely and the three tight ends they used
with this three hundred pound fall back Patrick Ricard, Eric
Henry's two fifty two, So you got a quarter ton
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of jumbo package coming at you with the fullback and
the running back, but the tight ends too. I think
what happened in twenty thirteen with the way they used
their tight ends is kind of analogous to this weekend,
with this befeeding bunch of ravens coming in here at
three and five.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And good morning.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
By the way, what I would say is if this
was a week before this last game against Detroit, we'd
have the same conversation we had last week.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
But then all of a sudden, you go.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Play Detroit in Detroit, and you're like, wait a second,
is this the football team that we thought we had
in September when we started this game, or the season
previous t injuries, previous to ban Ginkle, the Cashman bit,
the whole I mean, the whole deal. And all of
a sudden, you go to Detroit and you're the most
physical team in the building. You run the football, you
stop the run, you make the plays.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
AJ's getting energy in the end of the game.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Now you look at this game and say, hey, if
we could slow down the beef, right, if we can
match up to the three tight end sets and get
the pullback on an edge and bring down the horse
in the back, which was how I knew that I
should retire. When Derek Henry came in the NFL, I'm like, Yep,
the game's moved past.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Wait, that's right.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You played against him in his first game at tennesseeon He's.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Like, like, he's just an absolute problem.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, that's what I was saying. You were joking at
the beginning. It's like, oh, feel this vibe with the crowd?
Am I playing this weekend? How much would it cost
to get you to lace him up and just sit
there and try and tackle Derreck Henry?
Speaker 7 (29:06):
First of all, look at me. I could give you
twenty right now. Easy, I give you twenty snaps all
day long. But that would that's all I could give you. Yeah,
And I would prefer them to be on third down
when Derek Henry is not in the game passing down. Actually,
I'd prefer not to have to hit Patrick McCard again
at fullback in my life. That definitely is I'm in
retirement mode on that one. Is this this could be
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the battle of fullbacks of CJ back.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, he's been limited two days, but I kind of
I think he'll be back. Might be Ham versus Riccard
here in this game. It's kind of thought.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
But I like full backs, full back CJ's game. H Yes,
I think we've missed his presence and time from a
love particular.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Uh, that was great. I was thinking that because you're
talking about tackling Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah. I was thinking before the Lions.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Game, like we were out at practice maybe the day before,
and Cash's out there. I'm like, this guy's body is
about to go through just mate, like carnage, and I
don't like I was just I mean, it's one of
those days where I'm standing out there practice, not really
doing anything, thinking like how could you possibly lay it
on the line like that and then somehow recover in
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five days.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I mean, I know it's so general and you dealt
with it for.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Yeah, but you do when you when you when you
kind of take step back and look at the perspective
of like you do this for sixteen weeks and there's
I think for eight years in a row, like eight
and a half years in a row, I did miss
a game. You're playing linebacker, You're playing so many snaps,
over thousands of snaps a game of a year, and
then your body just continues to come back, and you
understand why. You get war down all of a sudden,
you turn thirty one, thirty two, your body can't recover.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
All of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
You get up on Wednesday when you have practice that day,
you're like, oh Lord, like, how I'm gonna get this done?
And there were days that you did not know how
you're gonna get through practice, but you knew they did.
To get through Wednesday, you would just feel better. You
get your body moving, you get the eights and pigs
out of the way, you come in, you take care
of your body. Obviously, you recover, you jump in cold
tub and all the everything would just melt away. Sure,
probably have to jump in the hot tub the next morning.
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You get loosened up. And it's just one of those
things you just constantly are dealing with recovery to yourself
back because at that point, like it is an absolute battle.
And some games, like this game, you are gonna feel it.
You're coming off the Detroit game where you're going back
to back weeks. Yeah, by the way, we have a
bunch of guys coming off injuries where you're gonna have
two of the most physical teams in the NFL back
to back, And when I looked at that stretch before
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we beat the Lions, was like physical physical, You're gonna
play another physical game in a couple weeks, Like this
is gonna be this is gonna be a toe to
toe battle.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Can I ask you something about that that Lions game?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And we talked about it a big yesterday with your
guy Lieber Andrew van Ginkel returning from injury, and you
see all the snaps and he's making plays immediately, making
an impact on the game. But there was a moment
where Khalif Raymond rolls in and just smacks some kind
of blind sides him a bit, puts him on his back.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
He still makes the tackle on the gifts find way.
It was a terrific play.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But there was just kind of the idea that the
word dirt you be bandied out, you know, bandied about
over the course of the week. Like, you know, I
don't see Khaliff Raymond as an inherently dirty player per se,
But is there an element where when a guy returns
from injury, like specifically, let's say on offense, like you know,
Derrick Henry's coming back from an ankle, like when you
when you try to tackle, you're gonna try and make
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sure that that ankle's okay.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Right, Well, you want to check how do you approach?
You want to check it out.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
But you you might say that before the game, say hey,
this guy's got a bum ankle.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
When you go after him, you're gonna go You're gonna
go low. You want to twist, or so you might.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
You might have that conversation in passing, and then the
game starts and you realize how hard it is to
target one specific part of the body when there's a million.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Things going on.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
You're coming off a block, you go tackle this freak
in the in the flat like I'm just gonna get
this guy down at some point, hopefully and if I don't,
hopefully my boys come and save me. Like this idea,
like that it was on purpose, and because Van Gigle's
come back from injury, I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
But these plays do happen in football all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
So you're saying the guy who when he got the
job said that we're gonna eat kneecaps or work gonna
break down.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
What did he say? How do you put it? We're
gonna bite, bite, then we're gonna bite kneecaps.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You're telling me, maybe one of the two most important
players to the Minnesota Vikings defense missing five games because
of a neck, and you got Khalif Raymond cracking him
the way Khalif Raymond never cracks anybody neck snaps, neck
hits ground. You're telling me Dan Campbell was not pushing
the envelope just to make sure this guy is squared
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away off the injury layout.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
I'm telling you he did not do that on purpose. Now,
I think that that play might have been set to
set the tone on Ben Ginkle to say hey.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Like well, like welcome back.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
I can agree with you to say it's gonna be
a test, yeah, to see where he's at, but at
the same time, like for it to be done in
a cheap way.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I just can't find saying no.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I'm not saying yeah, yeah, I'm not saying that he's
like go out there and cheap shot him.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
I think it was a test to your point, but
I don't think it was like a like, hey, let's
go lowest, I'm trying to hurt this guy.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
No, yeah, it was more of a let's go test him.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
I agree with that the Lions do play on a
I mean if they I mean the they are on
the line.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I mean it's it's like I mean.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
That sine Dan Campbell film from when he played Imagine
playing against that mountain right, an absolute problem, and he
was like, you know, he's like a mean Jim Kleinsaucer, right,
you know, he's like he's the strongest, you know, he's
the he's gonna be the dirtiest. And he's not like
dirty in a way where it's like within the rules,
but like always on the edge of the line. That's
how he coaches the football team. And by the way,
that's what set them apart in the sea four or
(34:28):
five years wherever how Along has been right, and it's
that physicality, that edge, that that kind of part of
football that we fell in love with. Now that the
game has certainly changed away from that, this would be
a mild mannered team.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Twenty years ago, everybody played this way.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
It's just that the game has changed so much that
all of a sudden we're like, this is this is different.
We're gon't be physical with a line of scrimmage. We're
gonna try to beat people up. What like that is football?
Coach Childress's first training camp. I was a part of
an six. All we did was beat the absolute bleep
out of each other for the first two weeks so
we could get tough to the line of scrimmage to
be the best football team.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
That was normal.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Now it's abnormal because you don't do it. They do
it elk River. Though you do it in elk River.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
They'll be doing it Saturday Titan formation the playoffs, won't
they elk River make a little noise.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I've heard about the the the power team or something.
It's like some hit you. Yeah, I was looking it.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Up, like, actually easier on the stream because you're up above.
If you're in the stands, they're standing along the rope.
You're standing by the rope. Here on that high school game,
you can't. You have no idea the ball is and
tell the guy you know blows the whistle.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I texted West Phillips, like you guys could put it.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Hey, I like that you actually he who is the
closest quarterback you ever played against? That would mirror, mimic
or in some ways do what Lamar Jackson does. From
an athleticism standpoint, the only name that pops in my head,
and we we mentioned him, PA mentioned him.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yes, you're like a Michael Vick.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I'm just trying to I mean, now it's it feels
like the massive trend, of course, is more and more qbs.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Maybe the majority of them are closer to.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Being more of the athletic make plays with your feet
while eyes downfield.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, Lamar is a running quarterback.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But exactly to that point, which was kind of more
of the case years ago where they were more unicorn like, like,
can is it maybe just Vic? Is there anybody else
you can think of that they were gonna they were
gonna pressure you with the run, maybe even more so
than than they do through the air.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean college football has changed the NFL.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
What it's producing in the RPO game and the running
quarterbacks and the athletes, the Jayden Daniels, the guys the
Lamar Jackson coming in the league has changed the NFL
because all of a sudden, what are we gonna go get?
We don't have a bunch of Joe Flacco's coming out
right sitting back there patting the ball five step drops.
We have guys coming out being athletic. Now, all of
a sudden, as the defensive Cord and I say, okay,
I gotta do with him running the ball. He might
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go down the line and pull it and have a
deep ball down the sidelines like he could do everything.
So Mike Vick's a good example and knowing goal with
Mike Vick was just not going to his highlight tape
because he was an absolute problem, Like you.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Had no idea what was gonna happen. I'll just the
laser of an arm.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
I remember Jamarca Sanford got broke off by Mike Victim
was just like, ooh, make tackle. Yeah, the key is
just just take a.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Shot at him.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
If you miss, you miss, but don't don't try to
be Mike Vick. If you break down, he's going to
beat you. By the way, I mean, so, I think
Cam Newton would be somewhat of an example.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
It's just a Cam was more.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Cam was Cam on there, the hat guy. He was
just so big and physical but yet athletic and facts
where he would keep it. And he was a running quarterback.
Yeah on third and one or two, like they can't,
They're gonna use Cam to get the first down. It's
the same thing we should be doing with our quarterback.
By the way, which with his feet were so important
last week in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Let's put our.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Guy in that spot because it's hard to defend. Like,
let him run some rpo stuff and get down the
line of scrimmage and make that end make a choice,
like we can do that, and it gets him in
the game, and it gets him fired up. And we
like when JJ's fired up and with emotion because he
plays better.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
You mentioned it last I'll let pig nine comes out.
You mentioned, yeah, nine ninety nine bits dom.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
You mentioned last week using his legs, and they do it.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
In that moment.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah, and he scrambles for the touchdown. I was thinking
of as he did that. It was like you were
yelling for it last week the champ as well.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
It's just so hard to defend when you add an
element where this guy can run. Now, all of a sudden,
you can play man coverage and your back is turned.
You better have a spy. Now, all of a sudden,
you pull a guy on the rush because you have
to spy him, because I'm worried about for that. Now,
all of a sudden, you have three guys rushing. Now
your old line is just it's just easier. I mean,
or you said pressure aut him because he's young guy.
We're gonna cover all these gaps up. We're gonna make
a plan, and that's really what you have to do
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from Nobson standpoints. So I just like mixing some of
that in early and all of a sudden the corner
of saying, wait a second, there's another element here.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
We have to see Jack Greenway. Ladies and gentlemen, Jack Greenway.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
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Speaker 4 (38:57):
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Back to Vikings Ravens analysis with the game changer Chad Greenway.
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Speaker 1 (39:22):
The first A very special Happy thirty fifth birthday, Josh Melton.
Happy birthday, Josh, from your wife Hope, who absolutely loves you.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Round of applause. Is my man's birthday.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
He's at the feast, all right, Happy birthday, Happy birthday.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Secondly, secondly, my man here, I don't know his name.
What's your name, Jake?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
He's here to talk about hockey for a second, It's
junior hockey. Minnesota Squatch. Squat, go crazy, Minnesota Squatch, make
some noise.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
What is what is that?
Speaker 8 (39:56):
We're a junior hockey team here in Elk River. It
was established in twenty twenty two by Chick Pojar. We
have kids from all around the world Europe, Italy, Austria, Ukraine,
all around the United States. So we're just here if
anyone wants some free tickets to our games. We play
next Wednesday in Elk River and Friday. I think so
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that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
All right, so they're members of said squatch. You're sitting
right here with the sweet sweaters, by the way, love
your sweaters. Is there a website where people can learn
more about the squad.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
It's just the Minnesota Squatch dot com. I assume. Yeah, thanks,
good luck, all right, thank you your guests.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Round of applause for the Google squad, I assume. And finally,
as we mentioned earlier, Elk River High School has a
big high school football game this weekend again Elks Minneapolis Washburn.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
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Speaker 1 (40:52):
Every single year to say hello to us, has a
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Speaker 7 (41:00):
Hey, I'm gonna make the call, and when I point
at you, I want you to say first down as
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Speaker 4 (41:12):
All right, here we go this move.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
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Speaker 1 (41:20):
Okay, Hi, fine man, go out that electric All right,
that's great.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Now back to the lesson at hand.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Go Squatch, go Elks, go Josh Melton, go Hope, And
here we are Buffalo wild Wings. Cookie Man round up.
Applause for the Cookie Man over there bringing bring in
just the best homemade cookies every show.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Shout out, sets you can fly.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I know I'm gonna gain ten pounds every football season
because of the Friday Football Feast, because of Cookie Man.
His cookies are unbelievably you look, you think I'm not
going to put ten of those down tonight watching Timberwolves
in Utah, gyp. Come on, man Man, chilled milk, We're good.
Let me ask this question, then the surrogate's gonna have
at it. But when it comes to scheming or preparing
(42:08):
for a football game, how much more difficult or tricky
is it preparing for an AFC team for a team
from the NFC North an AFC team compared to a
team from your division like the Lions.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
It's definitely different because obviously we play a team twice,
you see them.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
More often, you know their tendencies more.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
Obviously, it depends on coaching change and shift is all
the thing that happens every year. But when you see
a team less often, right, when you see a team
once every four years, it just gets to be a bigger.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Challenge on how you're going to do with it.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Now.
Speaker 7 (42:38):
Obviously, the rate these Ravens are a problem in several ways,
and I think when when you look at it, you
got to go and do a deep dive and trust
your staff who's put the research in and done the
film study on what these guys do from a Tennessee
standpoint out of their different formations and looks. You know,
because every time you go to a buy a week,
what's the team going to do? They're gonna self scout?
What do we do too often? What are our taels?
(42:58):
And I think when you do that, you know that's
why some staffs are better than others. By the way,
the Raven staff is really good, so they know how
to self scout, They know how important this stretch of
their season is to get back into this thing. This
is a huge game for both teams. I'm excited to
see how we handle it. I'm excited to see the
new wrinkles that we put in, but I'm also excited
to see how we can defend some of their stuff
that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Well, I'm kind of curious, so so Brian Flores what
we saw from his defense last week against a divisional opponent. Flores,
it's not Ben Johnson anymore, but he's seen that team,
He's seen those weapons, and you could feel that there
were very specific, almost like off season barnapkins and pockets,
like I'm gonna I'm gonna have this ready for when
we face the kiddies, And thankfully it worked out right
(43:40):
we win the game.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
But when you do face that AFC opponent, you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Wrinkles, But I almost I'm almost thinking, in some ways,
does it get simplified over the course, Like at a
base level, you're going into a game with a lot
of unknowns and maybe a lot of plans to attack
once those things reveal themselves. But it is it almost
like we start a little more simplistic and then we
dig deep in adjust throughout the game, maybe adding.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
To the difficulty of the challenge. Yeah, I mean, so
that's what you know.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
You go to training camp, you put in your base stuff,
your base coverages, your base defense is your base fronts,
and you have the wrinkles you put in the which
is a part of your defense. And then you go
you go game play somebody and now you're gonna go
and you're gonna pick something from a training camp that
you put it in and say, hey, remember this, we're
gonna put this back in and reinstall it this week,
and we're gonna add a wrinkle because Lamar can run
it right, and we're gonna we're gonna do this, and
we're gonna do that. We're gonna add this pressure because
(44:26):
we like that he's weak off, you know, looking off
the back side.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
You can't throw his left as well.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
Whatever it is that they have found, and they'll add
that wrinkle into the playbook and then they'll reinstall it
this week throughout their week. So you go on your
first day is first and second down on Wednesday, and
on Thursday you can do third down, short yardage, et cetera.
You kind of build throughout your week to add these
wrinkles in and you're more bolting things on to what
your fundamentals are than adding something completely new. Now, I
(44:49):
think what's interesting about like that. What I asked for
last week defensively was just do less, like don't don't
get yourself in this position where you're trying to do
too much and you're making stakes. And now those guys
are these teams which are really good, are finding the mistakes.
These quarterbacks are so good, they're gonna find where that
guy his eyes were bad. He's gonna throw over the
top of you. Now, Lamar brings a whole nother gamut
(45:11):
when he can run the football. So it's like to me,
a fast start offensively is so important to play ahead
of ahead of these guys.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
If you can get and then and then again.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
Can you can you can you run the football and
force Lamar to beat you with his arm. Let's check
his playoff record and we know what happens when he
gets find the chains and he has to throw to
beat you. They want to run the football and establish
that ground game. We have to focus and have a
game plan very similar to last week.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
I just want to ask you about Eric Wilson. Uh,
this guy second on the vikings in pressures behind Jonathan Garnard.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Love it.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
He was incredible in that game, making tackles on Jamier
Gibbs on the edge. Not an easy thing to do.
Just what have you thought watching this guy who was
signed to be a special teams ace? Yeah, and now
he's playing the majority the like the Lion's share of
linebackers to Blake.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yeah, and he's earned it.
Speaker 7 (46:01):
I mean, this is not when you're a special teams
guy in your career, it's hard to get out of that. Hey,
you're just a special teams guy, like very few have
ever done it. And I think when he is now
a linebacker that we're going to look to say he's
a playmaker, he's a problem. He is an absolute physical
specimen freak in new locker room, it's.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Like body, you would you like, how many guys would
you need to take on that guy?
Speaker 7 (46:23):
It doesn't even make sense genetically like that him and
I are the same species, like it, this is ridiculous.
And but now you look at an Eric Kendrick at
a great post on Instagram about him, just how like.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
He's just always been good. This is not new.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
If you're around in the locker room like at practice,
he's good and Trinny Camp. He's good and he gets
an opportunity last he's good. He's splashy off this year
and he's flashy and like he's but he's also solid, stable,
making these really hard tackles against Jamiey Gibbs were the
best guys.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
In space in the league.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
Like he played a massive role in last week, and
he's gonna play a bigger role this week with what
they're gonna do and what and honestly, what we're gonna
ask him to do defensively because they have Lamar? How
are we gonna spy How are we gonna approach his
running hit when we want to play man coverage and
everybody's backs are turned. How are we gonna stop Lamar
from pulling the ball down and going getting a first down? Yeah,
you gotta spy him. You gotta be smart on your
(47:14):
rush lanes. You can't get above the quarterback let him
spin out like you gotta cage rush him to keep
him in.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Is there an element to this where so last week
we saw a couple of safeties both Theo Jackson at
times and Harrison Smith And we've seen this from two
to two forever where he'll come up pre snap to
the line. Is he gonna blitz? What's he gonna do?
And then he just bails out. I almost feel bad
with him. He has to run like one hundred yards
pre snap just to get into his spot. But one
thing we didn't see is a lot of window dressing
(47:41):
or pre snab motions, specifically from the linebackers. We weren't switching,
and maybe that's the simplicity that you were talking about.
Is that a game to game situation where it's like
Goff is just so damn smart, and he's seen this
team so much, he's seen Floras so much. We're just
going to disguise by chilling, whereas maybe be against the Lamar,
maybe against the Ravens defense. You know, forget game plans
(48:04):
or intelligence or anything. It's just he doesn't know Floras
the way that maybe the Lions do that. Maybe that's
where we see some more pre snap motion and we
attempt to confuse the runner.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
Remember when Golf was with Jeff Fisher and nobody was
scared of them at all. Yeah, and then now now
we're in Detroit and we have all these you know,
crazy Jeff Jared Goff's the smartest guy and just winning
games all the time. Here's what I'll say about that,
They're gonna identify on film what Lamar struggles with pre snap.
They have a little center that's really really good at football.
He might be an iowahaw gye as well, who is
(48:34):
he is one of the best players in the league
that nobody knows about.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
But it's so strange because he's so athletic, and he's
under and he has these creatures fall up and right. Yeah,
so you remember twist you do?
Speaker 7 (48:50):
You know Tristan Wurf's tackle for the Bucks, right Worfs
or Linderbaum beat Worfs in high school state wrestling in Iowa. Wow,
imagine that those two stuff. So my point being is
you want to know how to play with leverage. He
knows how to play with leverage. He's smart. So my
point bringing him up is what makes what makes that
(49:11):
quarterback really good identifying what's gonna happen is having a
center who is prepared really good and knows what he's
doing and gets his old line set, gets that running
back to block the edge because we're not sure what
we're gonna get, but we're gonna make sure we get
this protection set. The right way to protect Lamar. And
then so those guys working together, that communication is gonna
be massive. But I promise you Bflow has identified some
(49:32):
spots we can get after Lamar where we think we
can trick him, and.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
We're gonna use twenty two.
Speaker 7 (49:36):
I guarantee you along with me, tell us to give
him some looks and be creative. And I think I
think it's gonna be a tricky A tricky one here.
A sneaky one is that interior rush against an athletic
quarterback is so big. When we get that pressure, what's
he want to do? Spin out and get outside. Ends
have to be smart. Ends have to hold the edge
and they cannot let him get outside and get be athletic.
(49:58):
He's gonna do it a couple of times, but it
cannot be a problem for us throughout the game.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Okay. In closing, help me with this, Maybe help us
with this.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
And I brought it up several times this week, and
the low hanging fruit would be all right with with Cashman,
Van Ginkol and grenard On.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
He's so good.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Javon Hargrave has played two games with those guys. He
has three sacks in those two games. All right, his
snapcount went from eighteen to like twenty two to like
what thirty nine hot mid to high thirties in this
last game. All right, so snapcount went way up, he responded. So,
from an interior defensive player standpoint, rushing, stopping the run
(50:40):
or whatever, exactly of what you said minimizes the potency
of a player like Lamar Jackson. Why why is it
so important for Hargrave to have forty three point fifty
one and fifty eight.
Speaker 7 (50:53):
Yeah, you just gotta trust where everybody's gonna be playing
with somebody to understand how they're gonna approach a gap
in a scheme. You know, you played the scheme now
through training camp and through the first part of the season,
and you understand where that d lineman is gonna be.
It's actually more on the linebackers to adjust. So if
I know how hard Gray is gonna play us a block,
I know he can hold up against the double team.
If I'm gonna get scooped with two linemen, like, how
(51:14):
he's gonna be able to hold up against that. Now,
as a linebacker, I could adjust to that. So, for example,
I knew how Kevin was gonna take on that scoop block.
I knew he was gonna be over way too athletic
for those old linemen. He isn't going to stay in
front of those guys and be hard on that guard
trying to get out because that center can't reach him.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Now, all of a sudden, I can come.
Speaker 7 (51:30):
Downhill harder if I get that guard pushed off of Kevin.
Now Kevin's gonna slide that gap. I'm gonna be downhill, wow.
And Kevin's gonna mak Kevin's gonna make the play now.
So playing with these guys now, as good as our
backers have been, you just you're able to feed off
of each other. And it's about if I want to
make a d lineman make a play, how can I
get that lineman off of him to make him unengaged,
(51:52):
And all of a sudden he's one on one with
the center. Now we like that, right because again Linda
Baum's really good, but we like it being a one
one situation with our cared deeply to lineman. So those
are the things you learned off playing off each other.
And also how much of that was an impact just
schematically the flow of the game last week, All of
a sudden.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
We're not playing from behind the whole game like Zach.
Speaker 7 (52:11):
We actually almost beat them in plays, which we still
didn't somehow, but we were closer. Like the flow of
the game matters so much on who's playing, what personnel,
how many third downs are we getting to are we
getting the stopped? You know, first and second out, so
third and twelve. Now the rush package comes out, so
a lot of that plays into what what snaps he's
taking as well.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Wow that I mean, hey, yeah, that was the Eleite
analysis right.
Speaker 5 (52:32):
There, talking about being able to trust you know where
that was was?
Speaker 4 (52:36):
That was good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Anything with gd anything with Gray Duck, Great Duck spirits today,
this weekend.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Great Duck, Great ex Spirits.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
Just you know, we've been so bought into Minnesota and
Minnesotas be buying to us. Make sure you go out
you're gonna support the bikes this week. Elk River's got
a big game. We should probably go out there and
go get some Gray Duck vodka and support that, don't
you think? Yes, I think we should go grab it.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Thank you guys, Jack Greenway, Ladies and gentlemen, A weekly
staple for the Friday Football fees Man.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
You're You're fantastic.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
A fantasy focus from the Feast around the corner, and
we will continue the Feast from Buffalo Wild Wings Elk
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