January 7, 2026 • 50 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome back to the show, dye too. Now time for
two more. Justlo, there are many many positives I.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Can get understand.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't right, that's a fact that Markettle foul whipping
Big boys back.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay, it's Parker Fox to start nine to noon, so
he gets this. What's happening with your alma mater beat
the nineteen last night? Iowa had a barrage of shots
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at the end to ruin the fun and tie the
game and missed them all and Gophers basketball beat another
ranked team in good morning, Parker Fox, Good morning, Nordo,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Good morning. Yeah, that was that was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He got the got the first half at the Old Cannabury,
watching it with some amazing friends over there, and then
caught the second caught the end of the game at
home finally, But wow, what a what a game you
hold Bennett Sturtz, who's arguably one of the best point
guards in the country to zero points in the first half.
He explodes in the second half for twenty one and
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ended up shooting it pretty well in the second. But
just a team effort, truly a team effort. I think
Minnesota they're in a position where you lose your starting
point guard, you lose your starting center for the season,
and you can get pretty down. You could you could
kind of mail it in and say, hey, it's our
first year. All the excuses in the world are there
for you if you want them. And the approach has
been the opposite of that. And Nico's really orchestrated exactly
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what he wants and exactly what the future of the
program is going to be in Minnesota. And I think
last night was just kind of icing on the cake
for them to be able to beat Iowa at home.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Storm the court.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You know, you can comment whatever you want on storm
the Court, but anytime you beat Iowa hasn't happened in
I think six years now at home.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So that's one we're celebrating. Well, I'm curious, is this
at this stage?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You mentioned it and he's he's fresh to Minnesota, He's
got some guys that he dialed in on and keyed
in on. He wants him to be a part of
this roster. But as he kind of finds his way,
moments like this, whether it's Iowa last night, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It was Indiana right, indianswer right? The other victory are
are these just these are just.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Sneak peaks at who Nico is as a coach, right
because in the end, sneak peak at the over the totality.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Of this season.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
What we saw last night is probably this team's going
to fail, maybe more than they succeed, but in patches
with a patchwork roster, the injuries. You noted that this
is kind of a testament to like, Oh, I think
Nico knows how to ball.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Nico can figure.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
It out and that should lend to maybe some optimism
among the Maroon and Gold faithful.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I think I think if you ask Nico this question
he would he would answer it and say, this is
a standard for what I want to be here at
Minnesota when people come into the Barn, into the home arena,
we want to have that home court advantage. As you
guys know, in the late nineties, you couldn't get a
ticket to go to the bar and it was one
of the hottest tickets. Vikings and Go for Basketball were
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the hottest tickets in town. And I think Nico grew
up through that culture. He was a student Assistan underneath
Clem Haskins, so he's seen it in his glory days.
He knows what it can be like, so, I think
you're right, Nordal. There's injuries, there's things that are going
to happen throughout a season. But if you put in
play what you want the culture and what you want
the program to look like, and you start winning games
like this, you're gonna get better recruits, You're gonna get
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more funding, you're gonna be able to have more NIL money.
It's all going to continue to trend in the right direction.
And then you gotta have guys that are proud to
be Minnesotan's that want to stay home. Isaac Asama, Grayson Grove,
two of those guys that really represent the University of
Minnesota with great pride. And I'm just really happy for
those guys that they get to experience this kind of
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stuff because I've been a part of teams where you've
struggled a little bit and everybody seems to turn on you.
They're gonna have you know, it's the highs and lows,
right like throughout seasons, you're gonna have peaks and valleys.
You can't be too high, you can't be too low.
But these guys got to they got to be proud
of what they did last night. Beat in Niowa at home,
top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Win, go for Nation. So the Bennett's Spennett starts starts. Yeah,
Now is he the kid who shot the top of
the key three pointer where there are two seconds when
he gets the ball, My man's composed and oh yeah,
so pump fake and get two to fly by him,
not worried about the clock. Yeah, gets off the shot
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and missed it. That was some composure right there.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
The kid's a study average nineteen a game last year
at Drake forty minutes a game almost brought them to
the NCAA tournament. You look at just the composure that
he played with all night, and if you continue to
watch Iowa basketball, you'll see more of the same. He's
one of those guys that if he's zero for seven
or if he's seven for seven, he looks the exact
same and he knows that. It's one of those things
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where it's like, Hey, I missed this shot right now,
I'm going to have this shot again at some point.
Maybe that's February, maybe that's March, maybe that's in April,
and I'm going to be more prepared for that moment
and I'm not getting too low on myself right now,
because I know this moment will come back again, and
I'm going to make it when it presents itself.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Is he considered NBA stock?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I mean maybe it's tough at the point guard position, right.
The speed of some of those guys in the NBA
he would probably struggle with. But as we've noted on
this show, shooting as the separator, he's an elite three
point shooter, shooting at at forty one percent this year
from three So if you can continue to do that,
look at kan K Nipple what he's done in his
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transition to the NBA phenomenal. If you can make shots,
you're going to carve yourself out a role. But I
think that's that's TBD. Yeah, but he's definitely talented enough
to do so.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, Kan K Nipple, Man, I'm not trying to turn
this into Charlotte Harnt fun. But when when LaMelo Ball
and or Brandon Miller are down CA Nipples twenty five
thirty thirty three points. Yeah, So what I like a
lot about him is Ball and Miller a couple of
Stone Colts scores. They're playing every game now. So when
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that started, you know, he had like a six point
game and like he couldn't find a shot. But subsequently
he's worked in with the other two, who both are
extremely gifted, and he's made a little MB three down there.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
For those guys Mat Nipples the bomb.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Well, it's it's the it's the the rookie effect of
playing with guys that are kind of a stab pushed
in the league. And you go to a team and
these are the go to guys. They have the ball
in their hands. But if you look at CON's done,
it's seven to twelve three point attempts per game. He's making,
you know, four to six of them. And if you
continue to do that, you're shooting at a good percentage
and you're helping your team, you know, hopefully win games.
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So I think he's he's the perfect kind of role
guy to go along with those two. So your go first,
let's go dude.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
They employ a seven man rotation all the time, and
if so, can it sustain?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, it's it's actually quite funny.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I've been on the call for for some of the
games obviously, so I've gotten to talk to Nico and
that's just what they have right now. That's just it's
it's the lot that they were given with injuries, with
some other different things that are behind the scenes. Regardless
of what's going on, they have seven guys that they're
confident in playing. They're going to play their starters, each
of their starters thirty plus minutes, and then they're going
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to use Grayson Grove and Kai Shinholster the freshman off
the bench, both freshmen. One's red shirt, one's a true freshman,
and whatever kind of minutes they can give them, they
give them, whether that be four fouls, whether that be
like Grayson Grove had four big second half dunks in
their win at Northwestern. So whatever they can give you,
they can give you. But they're really going to ride
with their starting five. And if you watch the way
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their offense is played, it's truly positionless. It's that Princeton
style of cutting and flare cuts and backscreens and ball
movement and the ball never moved. It's almost like a
hot potato esque style of offense. So all of them
can pass, all of them can shoot, and I think
when you have the ability to do that, it's really
hard to guard.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Langston Reynolds thirteen thirteen points, thirteen assists against Northwestern last
night twenty two points and correct me if I'm wrong here.
He's not even supposed to be a starter, right, He's
a starter because somebody got hurt.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, he wasn't starting the early in the season.
He's a guy he coming out of Northern Colorado last
year was kind of their go to guy. Obviously that's
a level down, but he was averaging sixteen points a game,
playing more of a kind of an off ball type
of position. But the point guard goes down with an injury,
and Isaac Osama is not really a true point guard either,
more of an off ball so they kind of split
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the point guard duties. But he's been excellent just his
vision on the court. Now, you have to give Nico
credit as well for the way that his offense sets
up the ability to pass the ball, but Langston's taken
full advantage of that. He's not a three point shooter.
Ninety percent of his offense comes within the charge arc
inside the paint. He struggles at the free throw line too,
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but he's got a relentless ability to get to the
rim and then anytime the defense kind of collapses and
shrinks in, he's able to spray it. To the outside
to really good shooters Kate Tyson shooting it over for
forty percent, Bobby Dirkin a thirty six percent three point shooters.
So anytime you have the ability to collapse the defense,
you're gonna either trying to find buckets for yourself You're
going to spray it out for open shooters.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
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Alma Mater gets USC here Friday, then Bucky comes to
town next Tuesday. Do you think Do you think uh
Nico's squad wins both? Yeah, very different games.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
USC is kind of more a little bit more of
a run and gun, a lot of athleticism. You're gonna
have a lot of length out in the court. Muss
Is is a really good coach gets those guys in
the right spots, that'll probably play a little bit of
zone defense as well. So I think making shots is
going to be key in those games. I'm interested to
see on what they look like. You look at the
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Iowa team, not a very athletic team, really good sets,
good shooters, and Minnesota control them and this is kind
of going to be opposite. It's gonna be a little
bit faster paced. So so Minnesota can't get caught up
in trying to match USC's pace. They got to play
their own game. And then you fast forward to a
Wisconsin team at home. That's always it's always fun that
the barn will be packed, there'll be a great crowd there,
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six o'clock tip on Big Ten Network, and it'll be
an excellent game. Wisconsin a little down right now, trying
to kind of find their groove and when it comes
into this Big ten play. So both of these games
are very winnable, and I think if they play the
way that they played defensively against Isola, they have a
chance to beat anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Parker is facing a proverbial fly in the metaphorical ointment.
A tweet from four minutes ago from a man named
Stephen Barr. Thank you for listening, mister Barr Parker. Sorry
to rain on your embulance, but half of the Iowa
team was inflected with some flu like malady. One player
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didn't make the trip due to the level of illness.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Wasn't there this guy I can't remember his name, He
wore number twenty three. He supposedly had the flu and
come on, played pretty well.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Michael Jordan, Yeah, oh that guy? All right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, So you're saying it's it's possible, it's I mean
anything possible.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Here's the deal is playing sick is the worst.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It truly is that you run up and down the
court one time and you feel like your lungs are
going to collapse.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's it's terrible. I didn't know that they're about the
Iowa team. But at the end of the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Day, the lights are on, the rests are there, the
ball is tipped, and just play what's in front of you.
You got to play the game. So I think I
try not to dive too deep into all the different
nuances of the game. Is both teams had both their
teams out there, and they played the basketball game and
we won the game.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You're not going to look back and have an asterisk
next to the game, be like the Iowa's team had
the flu. No, it's it's going to show that there
was a w but it's going to be in green, Amen,
Finchy as the howl ballwin. Are you and Young Maxwell
going to do some fan line in the playoffs again
because you don't know where they're going to be, but
they will be postseason bound. That's uh, we got to
continue to all with the homies. Boy, that's right, Hollong
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with the homies.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Max, So he's the best man. It's so fun to
work with him, and it's so fun to be a
part of something that we haven't had a whole lot
in my youth and childhood of growing up being a
Timberwolves fan is playoffs. And then we've gotten blessed with
the past couple of years all the way to the
Western Conference Finals. Hopeful week can continue to get more
of that. And the Wolves are looking good right now.
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They looked really good last night over Miami. Didn't catch
as much as I wanted to while watching the Gopher game,
but taking care of business, I think that was the
best defensive game they've had this season the lowest opponent
output at ninety four points, So you got to tip
your cap to what they did, especially in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Only seventeen points for Miami heat.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
They So Benci's team beats Bolster twice in a week, Yeah,
which is a handful. Put up one hundred and forty
one in the nation's capital. So that sends somebody like
me to the schedule to find when the next heat
check game is. Has nothing to do with Miami. They
need a heat check game right now. Maybe it's tomorrow
night when the Cavs come to town. Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley,
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Jared Allen, that should be a good one.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, home at home too, So you get him at home,
and then you got to go play it at Rocket
Arena in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
That's difficult.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Anytime you play a team twice, you know the first
the first game usually goes to the better team. So
I think Minnesota pulls that one off at home, But
then you got to go on the road against a
team that can scout exactly what you did. But as
we know in the NBA, when you have a guy
like Anthony Edwards that can take over and go for forty.
Scouting doesn't matter sometimes, so one of those deals where
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this is a great opportunity right in front of you
to steal two against a really solid Eastern Conference team.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
There's a social media clip bouncing around from Spoulstro's postgame
press conference last night where not only did he call
Rudy Gobert maybe the most underrated player in the NBA,
the effusive praise of how is rebounding has improved and
just what a factor he is, but then beloved Spo
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was like, because I guess Rudy, I guess go Beart
got into the team a little bit before yesterday's game
or one of these recent games, and he was like,
you know when I call win that that Rudy got
into the team before the game. I was like, oh,
that's great. You know they're they're gonna be all fired up.
And they were, and then they beat Spo twice. But
some very nice words from one of the one of
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the best coaches in the history of the NBA, Eric Spolstra,
about Rudy Gobert was changing games.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, thirteenth season for the Frenchman and it seems like
he just continues to increase his basketball i Q I
think a lot of Woolves fans get frustrated with with
some of the things that you see from Rudy, But
but his impact does not go unnoticed. Just especially defensively.
You see guys that will go into the paint and
they'll just veer off in the other direction because they
know that the stifle towers. That what they're calling him, Stipaul.
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He's chilling. He's chilling down there in the lane. I
think anytime Rudy has a fifteen plus rebound type of output,
you give your chance, you give yourself a really good
chance to win. He's been great on the offensive glass,
He's been shooting his free throws decently. It's never been
something that that's been great for him. Every time he
goes to the line, I think Wolves fans kind of
cringe a little bit. But the fact that he's getting
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there and the fact that he's putting himself in positions
to get rebounds. I think second in the league and
rebounding this year at eleven point one a game, eleven
point three points. So output is great, and he's running
the court really well. You see some of these highlights
of him being able to get out and transition this
Wolve's team wants to run, especially when you have Julius Randall.
As we've talked about PA, He's confident with the ball
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in his hands, point forward type of role. If he's
starting the break, you've got to have somebody else run
to the rim. We always preach you got two bigs,
one of them has got to run right to the
front of the rim. And if the other big has
the hand, that means it's Rudy Gobert's job. That can
result in some easy lob dunks as well.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Rudy is sixth in the NBA okay in offensive rebounds okay,
which is not bad, not bad. The leader is at
four point six. Rudy's got three point nine three nine. Yeah,
so you're looking at it. Yep, we got to hear, okay.
I was gonna quiz you like who Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't got the other names. I only got Rudy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Nordo your LFL raised uh five ahead of Rudy for
offensive rebounding in the twenty twenty five twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Six I don't got I don't got it up either.
Nordo five ahead, so best in the league.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, I think I probably out of Bayo top of
the top of the head. Probably could have gotten one
for sure out of Bayo. I'll give you some hints.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I'm thinking. I'm thinking like Hartenstein types.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm thinking, well, the leader, Mitchell Robinson is in his
second year, I believe, and he plays in the Western Conference?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Is it the Houston Cat Wemby? No, No, Wemby. Wemby
hasn't played enough games.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
The second year Number one is da Dona, Oh Donovan Klingon,
don have been Klingen four nine. Second, the veteran Ossi,
the veteran Ossi who ain't afraid of anybody in the NBA.
Big man aale. I mean, his interviews are phenomenal because
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of his accent. Step Adams, Stephen Adams, Adams, third out
for the year for Utah. Oh Kessler, Yeah, fourth Knicks
guy who plays Mitchell Robinson.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Maybe eighteen minutes he.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Grabs him, Mitchell Robinson eighteen minutes a game, four and
a half offensive rebounds.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's unbelievable, relentless, terrible free throw shooter, but relentless on
the grout.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You might be historically bad free throw One of the
worst of all time, wasn't Ben Ben Wallace used to
be the guy. Wasn't that he the guy that's like,
good luck, you can hit three out of ten?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I mean Ben Wallace, Shack, Mitchell Robinson. Yea three of
the worst in the history of the game. But Mitchell
hasn't been healthy in like three years. Good for him.
And the final one right in front of Rudy Gobert.
Eastern Conference. Okay, record wise, I guess best team in
the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh, that'd be it'd be Pistons as a Jalen Durent.
There we go, Yeah, that's right as a monster.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah man Zach Ediam who's still hurt, right behind Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Lastly, here on the how if they trade to become better,
what do they need more a floor general who can
quarterback the first team or some three points scoring off
the bench.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I love the idea of a floor general that can
quarterback the first team, but I don't know if you
have enough or want to give the pieces that you
would have to give away to have a first team
type of floor general.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I think you would have to give up too much.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Dante Nas probably a guy like Leonard Miller, maybe a
Jalen Clark in there.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
As well. I think that's just too much.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I think when you look at the way they've kind
of changed their offensive approach. Early in the season, they
had the ball in Dante's hands a lot, and continually
throughout the ball game he does have the ball in
his hands, but Anthony Edwards is primary ball handler. Julius
Randall with some different options as the point forward. You
love that aspect of his team. I do, But as
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a mixer has a mixer. So like in the OKC.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Western Conference Final, it was the bit yeah, and and
what's your guy's name who coaches the thunder, Yeah, thank you.
So took him five seconds to pick up on it.
And he's like, Okay, if you want Julius to shoot
ten threes a game, we're gonna let him shoot ten
threes a game.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know, because I think.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The the co manning, the the ball handling, the floor
general aspect for Dante DiVincenzo and and and he's I mean,
he's doing some winning things, yeah for sure. When he
gets his hands on a ton of basketballs, and you know,
he takes away things in subtle fashion's three point shooting,
he's broke man, and it just it just hasn't been
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as lethal consistently, you know, since he's got gotten into
the starting five, because he's has so many other things
to work.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Uh, to deal with.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I would imagine, yeah, and he's like three for his
last twenty six I believe that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And Julius hasn't hasn't been great from three either. I
don't like Julius from three that much. I like him
like two or three a game.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Max.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I think when he puts his head down in attacks,
you think that's when he's at his best.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I do.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I would love a little bit more bench help. I
think they haven't been to the level defensively that that
Chris Finch would want them. I think they were really
good last night defensively the good there, and I think
they're trending in the right direction. But you look at
that that that Brooklyn loss, like that's an unacceptable one,
just defensively. That Brooklyn's a terrible offensive team. You can't
take off nights. And I get it, it's one of those,
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you know, cogs in the system in an eighty two
game season. But I think if you have to look
at something specifically, I look at the defensive effort, how
can you bring even more Gelan Clark, Maybe you bring
in uh, somebody that's known for for their defensive energy.
We talked TJ McConnell, Nordle. I absolutely love that. It's
still stuck on my brain. But I think at the
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end of the day, it's cliche. But defense wins championships
and if you can find a way to bring in
somebody that can help you on that side of the ball.
You got the scoring an Aunt and Julius and and Jayden,
when when Jayden's on his offensive game, you need that
that defensive side of the.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Ball as well. Packers are Bears. Who do you like
and why Bears? Right away?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, it's quick, it's quick twitch for me. Yeah, I
think it's a pick them game.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I know it's a pick them game, which I'm going
quick twitch. I think Ben Johnson is ready for this moment.
I think they're going to have it going offensively. I'm excited.
I think it's gonna be I think there's a lot
of really good games. I think phenomenal. You look across
the whole slate, it's really anyone's anyone's deal. I think
there's you can make an argument for a lot of
teams have the opportunity to win this thing. But I
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really like the Bears. I like where they're at, and
I like I like their defense.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
As well as SINNI and Studio at eleven o'clock for
some border battle and does some playoff previewing with a
Dave Sennekim. Great scene, Taylor last night at that surprise
party at Canterbury. You guys look super happy and the
banker I was there to make sure everything was just
perfect for the nights.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh yeah, he was looking over he was looking over everybody.
He was fired up.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, I got Nordo barely knows the banker. Tim Siegley.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, but every time you see me, chortles or chuckles
or smiles, because Nordo can sense a good vibe. Yeah,
he just knows there's something pure, good, righteous and help
worthy here.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
It's a good human right there. It's the banker. The
smile never leaves his face. He and his wife were
so nice to chat with last night. Now that that
was an awesome party at Canterbury. That was so fun.
That was terrific. I'm really glad your daughter could be
there as well. Just the whole bit.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It was.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It was excellent. The food is great, the people were great.
And yeah, it's great to see the banker. We got
lunch today at now and so I'm sure we'll be
chatting a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You had no idea, did you?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
None?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Until I got off the third floor elevator, looked left.
Oh yeah, well my son had sold to me for
a week and change. There is a an employee Canterbury Park,
employee only Turbo Texas Holdham tournament. You're fired up, and dad,
my gift to you for your sixtieth birthday is it's
one hundred dollars a person. I'm going to buy you
in Like all right, I mean, I'm laying on my
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couch at six o'clock, honestly, with all due respects of
the last thing I wanted to do. I was wondering,
there's nobody here. This is weird. It's my sixtieth birthday.
There's nobody at my house right now. It's weird. It's lonely.
So then Buddy shows up. We roll to Canterbury. I
get off the third floor elevator and it starts to
hit me like, well, why are we doing a poker
tournament up here? And then I look left and I
see the balloons. Then I come into the room and
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I had to turn away. I was so touched and moved.
I mean I just looked like Nordo Parker, Taylor, Alix
charge Utah Mouse.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I just was unbelievable it. Nordo brought Eva and Stella.
There were friends from my church. Chris Hockey sang, oh
so good. Adam Daniel played the keyboard about eighty of
you just did a great job keeping secrets because I
was blown away. My daughter Coley flew in from Denver,
Derek driving me to Canterbury for the surprise shindig was cool.
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The TLC and love that Lisa put into the evening
second to none church and Roxy flew in from Utah.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That woke the old up and I was genuinely touched. Man,
So thank you guys very much. Awesome. The videos were
so cool just to see you just just with the
old like no gray hair, hair in one chin. Who
is this guy?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Who is this guy on top of these racehorses?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That was excellent, man, it was really really great scene
Taylor as I adore your fiance and sir a good
fashion and holy cow, what a game changer on the ice.
She is, Man, I ain't breaking news here or anything,
but talking to her for three minutes about that social
media clip I saw against somebody recently where she won
the game and the goalie had her eyes closed trying
to catch the pucks.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You got snipe so badly. I'm like breaking down hockey
with her.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
It was cool.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, she was on the tails of an eleven day
road trip, but we we had to there for you.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It was it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, God bless you and your family, Matt Man, and
I love you too, thank you for coming.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Likewise, Ernardo and Ava and Stella. Man, that was so
great seeing your kids last night. Can't stop thinking about it.
Oh they love you, man, and I love them. Wonderful,
wonderful young girls. All right.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
See a pea Fox Parker Fox at Parker Fox two
four part of the Timber Tech What's on Deck set list,
which includes bikes bites right around the corner, followed by
Mike Florio. If you put together an elongated bikes bites
and we clip on it a little bit. Because of
the Steve's Appliances marathon, we got plenty of spots to
a mix of men during the course of the show,
(26:16):
and Florio joins about nine. At ten o'clock, we have
a vikings talker of the day with talkbacks tied to them. Yes,
and Donordo is going to be leading that Alas, there's
much more on the Wednesday nine to noon presentation, And
I'm Paul Allen.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You're listening to nine to Noon at FM one hundred
point three KFA Night Spots, Vikes Bites, Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
It's nine to noon, nine thirty. Mike Florio around the corner.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
As Pa mentioned last segment, at ten am, were going
to start. I don't know if it's going to be
an everyday thing. If we do it just once today
and never do it again, that feels unlikely. But a
talkback talker of the day, So if you're interested in
participating and offering some big opinions on the purple, that's
going to be around ten o'clock. But Vike's Bite starts
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now and we just have a handful of minutes. I
did want to hit on a couple of things here though,
including Brian O'Neil talking about the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Feel for him personally.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I would say this one might be easier because we
knew that this was the last one, if that makes sense,
or last year we were planning to play for I
was planning to play for a while, So when it
abruptly ends and you weren't expecting you to, that makes
it harder. Yeah, I guess that's kind of a different sounds.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like Brian going through kind of similar mentality.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Is those of us that follow the team, love the team,
and the emotional roller coaster of a season. We knew
kind of after that Bears game you mentioned at PA's
this two percent thing. I'm just not going to ride
that vibe. It's just it's not going to work this year.
And and then that became the human nature part of
things that you spoke of and guys like Brian, if
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you can play, you can play, which leads me to
this audio clip.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
I don't think there's regret because there's a lot of
things that it's all out of our control with injuries
and that type of thing. But I sure would have
liked to had our full group with out there more
than we were. So yeah, but you can't. You can't
have regrets, and you got to leave it all out
there and if you can play, you play, and if
you can't, you know, somebody else has to step in.
And that was kind of the nature of our room
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and really our team this year.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well what Brian, Those are excellent clips, by the way,
because Brian opens the door if somebody is so inclined.
When looking forward to the what's X plan? Where Monday
we were like, I mean the mandates right now are are?
What was the order I put them in? McCarthy, Yeah,
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McCarthy drafting better. Flores Yeah, Flores Flores figure that and
they're right the draft bit McCarthy draft ye to start
to just start drafting better, with all due respect to
get players who who help quicker and.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
More effectively in certain spots.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
All right, But then behind that you have a whole
slew of talkers with talkbacks for the off season that
are non obvious.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Brian just put us on one.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I mean, he's he's opening the door for those to
read between the lines and when he says, if you
can play, you play right, and then he stops it
right there, just trying to figure out like.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I mean, like, what do you mean all those concussions
for Ryan Kelly? I know you don't mean that right,
So that was it interesting?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
No, And that's the frustrating part of nine and eight
radio is identifying that identifying financial levers to pull in
all those things. I mean, we're going to be digging
deep in the weeds, and well, I'm going to dive
head first into the weeds at ten am with my
talkback talker on a Wednesday morning and we'll go a
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little bit deeper there.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
One more or two more, Little Vike's bitch.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
How do you evaluate the tight end room in twenty
twenty five and then kind of couple that with moving forward.
It's a little difficult for me, and I know the
coaches will, we'll have their processes and such. This could
lead down the road of TJ. Hawkinson and that money
he's going to make. It could lead down the road
of what do you think of Josh Oliver if if
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you featured him more only nineteen targets, fifteen catches, but
he was tied for the team leading touchdown receptions this year.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
You made Ben simm sound like a cross between Bryce
and Nesbit and Josh Wiley, And you're a second and.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You're a second the baby carrots.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
But I just when you when you come into an offseason.
You want to have not you don't need absolutes, but
you need leans. You need ideas and trends that push
you forward. And when you try to evaluate this tight
end grouping, it's very difficult for me to do that, Pa,
because of what we got out of the quarterback spot
this year. The idea, Hey, you know, we bring in
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Jordan Mason if we can establish him. For the most part,
I thought Jordan Mason nearly five oclip when he was
healthy and active, like, I love the first season that
we got out of Jordan Mason.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Me too, kind of wish we got more out of him,
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And with Jordan, I loved how he messed up his
ankle in a losing season and it was important for
him to come back and play.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yes, you know where good If you can play, you
can play.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Seriously, that's the That's the around Banksgiving when I'm like,
all right, boys, these are human nature games, yea. And
for those who know what to look for, you know
where to look, but it will reveal itself.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And with Mason it didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean, he messed up his ankle early in that
Giants game when when he was on the cart heading
back to the locker room. I mean I thought he
was done for the year. I mean he had like
a towel over his head. He was banging his fist down.
He was so frustrated he couldn't play. But then in
an in nine and eight radio season, my man comes
back plays makes a difference, he does.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Indeed, I love that Vike's bites. We're gonna pause now.
I do have some things in my back pocket. As
you mentioned, we got some openings later on. But Mike Florio,
Pro Footballtalk dot Com his weekly appearances around the corner PA.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Indeed, it's nine thirty six PFT radio next on Kfan.
My Glorio pro football Talk dot Com, author of us
several books, including Bother of Mine and Big Shield, nice
enough to join nine to noon each and every week
part of the well respected NBC Football Night in America crew,
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and Mike joins us. Now into the D nine and
eight around here, Man, what do you think moving forward
for the Vikings in good morning?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Well, hey, the good news is that of the fourteen
playoff teams, thirteen are guaranteed did not finish the year
with a five game winning streak. So the Vikings have
that there is for them, which is nice. Look, they
averted a disaster when it was four and eight. It
was as bad as it could have been, and there's
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something to be said for the resilience that the team showed,
the leadership that Governor O'Connell displayed to get things turned around,
especially since most of those games. Four of those games
were played at the time when the team knew it
had no chance of making it to the playoffs. And
it's good that it was done then because when you
look at the final standings, it's tantalizing to see how
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close the Vikings were to snatching that seventh seed. And
I don't know how the tie breakers would have gone
if the Cowboys and Packers hadn't tied all the way
back in the week fourth, the Packers had lost that game,
My gut tells me the Vikings probably would have won
the tiebreaker. Now again, that Packers would have made a
greater effort to try to win the game than they did.
But regardless, finishing with five in a row thirty years
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ago that would mean a lot more. As it relates
to the carryover to the next season, roster is going
to be very different. Coaching staff could be very different.
With each passing hour that Brian Flores doesn't sign an extension,
it becomes more likely that he takes at least a
lateral move, And even if he does sign an extension,
he could become the head coach of one of the
seven teams that are currently looking for a new guy
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to lead the locker room. So it's good, but it's
an asterisk because next year is going to be very different.
But it's better to finish the way they did than
to finish the way the Jets did with five straight
losses and a combined point differential minus one thirty seven
twenty seven point four points per game they lost by
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It's always better to go into the offseason with a
team that feels optimistic, and anyone who is next year
is going to benefit from that vibe.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
All right, So at Pro football Talk dot com yesterday,
I read this story about former Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins
and Atlanta and a modified deal all right and fairness
and announcer act. I'm dumb because I read that and
I'm like, all right, well, he's going to stay in Atlanta. Well,
then I read further and I saw some other things
were like with this modified deal, it makes it easier
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for him to leave Atlanta. And this is going to
be an off season here with people talking about veteran
backups or veterans who can compete for the one spot.
What do you think about all that with Kirk o chains.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Well, here's what the contract revision ultimately means. Because what
happened was somebody reported about the modification. One of the
other writers at PFT wrote about the modification, and then
when I had a chance, I did a little digging
to see what it all really means. Here's what will happen.
On March eleven or March twelve, the Falcons will release
Kirk Cousins with a post June one designation. The contract
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adjustment it was done earlier this week, whatever day they
did it. It was all about reducing the cap number
that the Falcons will carry until June two, when financially
the release hits the books, and it was about ensuring
that the Falcons will have no choice but to cut
him before March thirteen. He won't be on the market
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technically when the market opens, but anyone who's going to
be looking for a quarterback will know that Kirk Cousins
is in play and therefore will be considering him as
an option, and he'll get the best possible deal that
he can because the reality is the longer it takes
for you to hit the market, the less money is
going to be available because teams burned through their budgets.
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So Cousins is going to be available for any team
that's looking. But when you consider the landscape, the Jets,
the Steelers, maybe the Browns, the Raiders, the Cardinals, there
are teams out there that definitely are going to be
considering their options at QB one and needs to happen,
and we see this every year. The coaching carousel needs
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to stop before the quarterback carousel begins because where will
the head coaches be, Who will be the head coaches,
who will be the offensive coordinators? Where do we draw
lines and connect dots back to Kirk Cousins. Those things
are all relevant to what the options will be for
the teams who need starting quarterbacks to consider Kirk Cousins.
And he played well enough down the stretch that he's
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going to get another pay day three hundred and twenty
one million in career earnings, and he's going to get
more money Now, he's guaranteed to get ten million from
the Falcons, but that's subject to offset, and he's clearly
going to make more than ten million this year. The
question is how much more than thirty thirty five is
he going to make. I think he will get paid.
I think he'll be somebody's QWB one as of Week one,
and I think that fact makes it less likely he'd
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come back to Minnesota for anything other than a clear
assurance that he's the starting quarterback. The last thing he's
going to want to do is another one of these
situations where he does a deal and then he finds
out six weeks later they've drafted his replace. He's gonna
be very careful about that this time around, because he
got burned by that in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right, So when I lay something outs minus seven hundred,
given your wheeling West Virginia raised, you know exactly what
I'm talking about. And earlier in the week I said
JJ McCarthy in my estimation is a minus seven hundred
favorite to start Week one for the Vikings next year.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Well? I don't know. All I know is this, if
he's going to be the Week one starter, they'd better
have somebody there who is able to step in when
he inevitably gets hurt. That's the biggest issue, whatever improvement
he makes, and there's been plenty of talk about footwork
and mechanics, and he's only got one pitch in the arsenal,
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and it's a fastball, and it prevents the kind of
layering of passes that can work the middle of the field,
which the Vikings have done very well in past years.
They need someone who will be happy to be there,
paid accordingly to be the one bee to McCarthy's one A.
And I think you have to give that person a
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fair chance to win the starting job. You're not going
to get them to sign if you don't tell them
they have a fair chance, and they'll get a fair chance,
and at the end of the day they'll start the
best guy. I think that McCarthy hasn't done enough this
year to have that job guaranteed, And if you're going
to have a capable alternative, you have to give that
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person a fair shake at competing for the starting job.
So I'm not going to go minus seven hundred because
I think the kind of guy the Vikings need as
insurance against future inevitable JJ McCarthy injuries is going to
be somebody who's potentially good enough to win the starting job.
I think it's that simple. So the Vikings just need
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to do what's best for the team. In twenty twenty six,
they failed to do that. In twenty twenty five, they
failed to have someone there who would be the viable
alternative to JJ McCarthy, and that's one of the reasons
why even with a nine to eight record, it's not
good enough to get to the postseason p FT.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Is the autumn wind going to be a Flores? You
think the Raiders tried to woo Brian Flores to become
their next head coach.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
I caught wind of the rumor over the weekend from
somebody I've known for a long time and somebody I
trust that this Brian Flores and Brian dabol combination in
Las Vegas is out there. The steam's there, and it
makes sense when you consider this. Tom Brady was able
last year to keep his head low and his mouth
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shut as it relates to how much involvement he had
in the concoction of a twenty twenty five Raiders team
that ended up being abysmally bad. It was reported by
the Las Vegas Review Journal a year ago. It's Tom show. Now.
The problem is he's a part timer. He's not there
every day. He's chiming in from time to time and
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probably irritating to people who are there putting in the work.
No one resents being told what to do by somebody
who isn't there working elbow to elbow. And the statement
that came out on Monday from the Raiders when they
fired Pete Carroll said that GM John Spytech, in close
collaboration with Tom Brady, will lead the football operation, including
the search for a new coach. So you know, you
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think about this personality wise, teams tend to go for
the exact opposite of the guy they fired. So if
Pete Carroll you have the raw, raw, always positive players
coach and it was a complete and total disaster, the
exact opposite is a guy who has belichickie in DNA,
and that's what Brian Floores is and Brian Daball is.
And I think if Josh McDaniels hadn't already been the
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coach of the Raiders and failed miserably, he'd be at
the top of the list. I mean, really, if McDaniels
doesn't have that miserable second stint in Las Vegas, he's
one of the top candidates right now, at least until
John Harball got dropped into the mix. So if Brady
is going to be calling the shots, I think Brady
is going to want to try to create a Patriot
Way because look at what happened when they created it
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this year in New England with Mike Vrabell. Even though
he never worked as a coach for Bill Belichick, he
played for Belichick. He's the perfect combination. I think of
Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick. He's got the right personality
that's going to be the key in Las Vegas. And
I think it makes Flores and day Ball or day
Ball in Flores. It could be day Ball as the
head coach and Flores as a defensive coordinator. But either way,
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I think Tom Brady has to be at a point
where if he's not going to be there all the time,
he needs people there running the show who learned how
to win from the same guy that Tom Brady learned
how to win from. So it all makes sense. It
almost makes too much sense. You know, a lot of
times something makes so much sense it's never going to happen,
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but I guarantee you that rumor was out there and
it caught my attention over the weekend, and it's something
I'm going to monitor as the Raiders move forward.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
How does Brady got all this decision making power and
get to call games for Fox with Burkhart?
Speaker 6 (43:04):
How does that help get me started?
Speaker 5 (43:05):
It started?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Well, seriously, well, I mean we've talked about it before,
like when he was in the coaches booth and you
started writing about it and stuff, and it was seen
it like Monday Night Football or whatever. But then I
mean it kind of went in one ear and out
the other. For me, I didn't think it was that big.
But now all of a sudden, we're talking about this
minority owner with all this cachet making these massive decisions
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and getting to call games and go to other facilities.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
From the moment that Fox hired Brady while his bid
to buy a piece of the Raiders was pending, my
first reaction was, the NFL is never going to approve
Tom Brady owning a piece of the Raiders. If he's
in this position where he's covering the entire league, he
has access that no other owner has as somebody said
when this all first finally became a thing after the
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Monday night game between the Chargers and the Raiders, where
Brady was in the booth, and it's funny if you
watch that clip, he hits the button and drops the
chair down as low as possible. He's sitting there with
the tablet, he's got the headset on. He's working with
the Raiders coaches. Sometimes people need to see it to
understand the issues. And somebody, I can't remember who it was, said,
would you have an issue I think it was Marcus
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Spears on ESPN, would you have an issue with Jerry
Jones calling games for Fox. He's the owner of the
Cowboys and he's out there in all these different stadiums.
And this is the key. You're in a position where
you're down on the field before the game, and you
get to see guys in a different context, and you
talk to a bunch of people, and people are going
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to want to talk to you because the coaches and
the executives, they don't think of it the way fans do.
Fans pick a team for life. Coaches and executives pick
a team for a paycheck and an opportunity, and if
it doesn't work out with the team I'm with, then
there's going to be another team out there that may
hire me in. One of those thirty two teams is
the Raiders run by Tom Brady, and that's what Mark
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Davis wanted. Davis said last January he brought in Tom
Brady to fill the role that had been held by
John Gruden to stabilize the football operation. I have to
wonder what Davis thinks about the stability that Tom Brady
has brought the Davis is fine with this absentee landlord Gig.
I think it's a problem, and I think he needs
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to either be all in or all out. And you know,
from my perspective, when we went through and ranked the
desirability on a scale of one to ten of all
the various openings, I mean, from my perspective, I have
one view of that team if tom Brady's all in.
I have another view of that team if Tom Brady
is kind of halfway in, and another view of that
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team if he just says I'm going to be a
passive investor and I'm not going to be involved in
management at all. But we know that's not going to happen.
He's involved, and whoever takes that job is going to
have to deal with the fact that after every game
he's going to get a phone call from Tom Brady,
who wasn't at the game, who may not have even
watched all of the game, and tom Brady's going to
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have opinions on what that guy needs to do better.
Do you really, as a head coach, do you really
want that in your life when you got enough other
stuff to deal with? And my guess is it drove
Pete Carroll crazy, And until Chip Kelly was fired, it
probably bothered him too that Tom Brady was chiming in
with all sorts of thoughts based upon watching the game
from afar.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Time for two more, did Kevin Stefanski take the fall
for Cleveland dysfunction?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
And if so, why him a two time Coach of
the Year.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Don't call the Browns dysfunctional. The owner has asked nicely
that we not call the Browns dysfunctional, So from this
point forward, I am referring to them as the definitely
not dysfunctional Browns. Okay, look, this all goes back to
the Deshaun Watson deal, the single worst transaction in league history,
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worse than herschel Walker. Here's why you give up three
first round picks, you give up three second round picks.
You lose the ability to bring in young, cheap players
who will form the nucleus of your team moving forward.
And you give forty six million per year on a
five year contract, two hundred and thirty million fully guaranteed
to Deshaun Watson at a time when you know he's
going to get suspended. He's got more than twenty at
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the time civil lawsuits pending against them alleging sexual misconduct
during the massage therapy sessions that resulted in eleven game suspension.
It derailed his twenty twenty two season. He didn't play
in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three, he gets injured.
They cobble together a playoff appearance, pulling Joe Flacco off
the couch. Kevin Stefanski was a two time Coach of
the Year because he took the Browns of the playoffs twice.
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Because nobody ever expects the Browns to go to the playoffs,
not under Jimmy has them Haslum's the problem, and this
is the core issue for every fan of every definitely
not dysfunctional team. You can't fire the cote the owner.
There's no recall vote. You're stuck. Jed York said it
when he went through the stretch of fired, Jim Harbaugh,
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fired Jim tom Sulla, fired Chip Kelly. He said in
a press conference, you don't dismith. It's the owner that's
the problem. You're stuck and somebody had to take the fall.
Think of it this way. Number one, for every team,
when the season ends, you got to get your season
ticket holders to renew. So you got to do something
to get them feeling good about the team. And in Cleveland,
especially Paul, they get that new stadium coming, I guarantee
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you they're going to have PSLs massive investment. Capital investment.
Got to pay that phony money for the right to
sit in the seat that you otherwise buy with your
season ticket money. So they got to do something, and
I don't know what their plan is. They need to
make a big swing. I'm surprised they're not at the
front of the line for John Harbaugh. That's the kind
of move that they need to make. If you're going
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to inspire the fan base to plunk down a significant
amount of disposable income for PSLs, you need to go
out there and you need to get a big name.
And really, if I'm a guy with options, that's the
last team I'm going to go work for, even though
they're definitely not dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Packers are Bears. Who do you fancy in that one?
Or what are you going to be looking for?
Speaker 6 (48:58):
Probably the Bears because the Packers haven't won a game
since the game during which Michael Parsons suffered the torn
ACL I think that took the air out of the balloon.
The best chance for the Packers would be, in my opinion,
have a Malik Willis package ready to go and use it.
The Bears had trouble defending him. And if you've got
both Jordan Love and Malik Willis and you're going to
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use both of them, you're going to maximize your chance
to win the game. And if the Packers lose, I
don't rule out a coaching change there. You know, seven
teams called John Harbaugh's agent about him possibly joining their team.
Only six vacancies are out there other than the Ravens.
Somebody who currently has a coach called Brian Harland's son
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of former Packers CEO Bob Harlan, and inquired and ed policy.
The current president of the Packers made it clear before
the season. This is basically an upper out year from
Att Lafleur, whose team has made it to the playoffs
three straight years as the seventh seed. If they hadn't
expanded the playoffs in twenty twenty, the Packers to be
writing a four year streak of no playoffs. So this
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is one of those games that I think carries a
potentially significant outcome for the Packers if they lose. But
if they want to win this one, you got to
get Malik Willis out there. This is their last stretch
with the leak Willis. He ain't going to be there
next year. He's going to be somebody's starter next year.
They should use him while they have him.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
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Welcome back to the show, dye too. Now time for
two more. Justlo, there are many many positives I.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Can get understand.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't right, that's a fact that Markettle foul whipping
Big boys back.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay, it's Parker Fox to start nine to noon, so
he gets this. What's happening with your alma mater beat
the nineteen last night? Iowa had a barrage of shots
(01:20):
at the end to ruin the fun and tie the
game and missed them all and Gophers basketball beat another
ranked team in good morning, Parker Fox, Good morning, Nordo,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Good morning. Yeah, that was that was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He got the got the first half at the Old Cannabury,
watching it with some amazing friends over there, and then
caught the second caught the end of the game at
home finally, But wow, what a what a game you
hold Bennett Sturtz, who's arguably one of the best point
guards in the country to zero points in the first half.
He explodes in the second half for twenty one and
(01:53):
ended up shooting it pretty well in the second. But
just a team effort, truly a team effort. I think
Minnesota they're in a position where you lose your starting
point guard, you lose your starting center for the season,
and you can get pretty down. You could you could
kind of mail it in and say, hey, it's our
first year. All the excuses in the world are there
for you if you want them. And the approach has
been the opposite of that. And Nico's really orchestrated exactly
(02:16):
what he wants and exactly what the future of the
program is going to be in Minnesota. And I think
last night was just kind of icing on the cake
for them to be able to beat Iowa at home.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Storm the court.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You know, you can comment whatever you want on storm
the Court, but anytime you beat Iowa hasn't happened in
I think six years now at home.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So that's one we're celebrating. Well, I'm curious, is this
at this stage?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You mentioned it and he's he's fresh to Minnesota, He's
got some guys that he dialed in on and keyed
in on. He wants him to be a part of
this roster. But as he kind of finds his way,
moments like this, whether it's Iowa last night, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It was Indiana right, indianswer right? The other victory are
are these just these are just.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Sneak peaks at who Nico is as a coach, right
because in the end, sneak peak at the over the totality.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Of this season.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
What we saw last night is probably this team's going
to fail, maybe more than they succeed, but in patches
with a patchwork roster, the injuries. You noted that this
is kind of a testament to like, Oh, I think
Nico knows how to ball.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Nico can figure.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
It out and that should lend to maybe some optimism
among the Maroon and Gold faithful.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I think I think if you ask Nico this question
he would he would answer it and say, this is
a standard for what I want to be here at
Minnesota when people come into the Barn, into the home arena,
we want to have that home court advantage. As you
guys know, in the late nineties, you couldn't get a
ticket to go to the bar and it was one
of the hottest tickets. Vikings and Go for Basketball were
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the hottest tickets in town. And I think Nico grew
up through that culture. He was a student Assistan underneath
Clem Haskins, so he's seen it in his glory days.
He knows what it can be like, so, I think
you're right, Nordal. There's injuries, there's things that are going
to happen throughout a season. But if you put in
play what you want the culture and what you want
the program to look like, and you start winning games
like this, you're gonna get better recruits, You're gonna get
(04:06):
more funding, you're gonna be able to have more NIL money.
It's all going to continue to trend in the right direction.
And then you gotta have guys that are proud to
be Minnesotan's that want to stay home. Isaac Asama, Grayson Grove,
two of those guys that really represent the University of
Minnesota with great pride. And I'm just really happy for
those guys that they get to experience this kind of
(04:26):
stuff because I've been a part of teams where you've
struggled a little bit and everybody seems to turn on you.
They're gonna have you know, it's the highs and lows,
right like throughout seasons, you're gonna have peaks and valleys.
You can't be too high, you can't be too low.
But these guys got to they got to be proud
of what they did last night. Beat in Niowa at home,
top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Win, go for Nation. So the Bennett's Spennett starts starts. Yeah,
Now is he the kid who shot the top of
the key three pointer where there are two seconds when
he gets the ball, My man's composed and oh yeah,
so pump fake and get two to fly by him,
not worried about the clock. Yeah, gets off the shot
(05:05):
and missed it. That was some composure right there.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
The kid's a study average nineteen a game last year
at Drake forty minutes a game almost brought them to
the NCAA tournament. You look at just the composure that
he played with all night, and if you continue to
watch Iowa basketball, you'll see more of the same. He's
one of those guys that if he's zero for seven
or if he's seven for seven, he looks the exact
same and he knows that. It's one of those things
(05:30):
where it's like, Hey, I missed this shot right now,
I'm going to have this shot again at some point.
Maybe that's February, maybe that's March, maybe that's in April,
and I'm going to be more prepared for that moment
and I'm not getting too low on myself right now,
because I know this moment will come back again, and
I'm going to make it when it presents itself.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Is he considered NBA stock?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I mean maybe it's tough at the point guard position, right.
The speed of some of those guys in the NBA
he would probably struggle with. But as we've noted on
this show, shooting as the separator, he's an elite three
point shooter, shooting at at forty one percent this year
from three So if you can continue to do that,
look at kan K Nipple what he's done in his
(06:09):
transition to the NBA phenomenal. If you can make shots,
you're going to carve yourself out a role. But I
think that's that's TBD. Yeah, but he's definitely talented enough
to do so.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, Kan K Nipple, Man, I'm not trying to turn
this into Charlotte Harnt fun. But when when LaMelo Ball
and or Brandon Miller are down CA Nipples twenty five
thirty thirty three points. Yeah, So what I like a
lot about him is Ball and Miller a couple of
Stone Colts scores. They're playing every game now. So when
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that started, you know, he had like a six point
game and like he couldn't find a shot. But subsequently
he's worked in with the other two, who both are
extremely gifted, and he's made a little MB three down there.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
For those guys Mat Nipples the bomb.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Well, it's it's the it's the the rookie effect of
playing with guys that are kind of a stab pushed
in the league. And you go to a team and
these are the go to guys. They have the ball
in their hands. But if you look at CON's done,
it's seven to twelve three point attempts per game. He's making,
you know, four to six of them. And if you
continue to do that, you're shooting at a good percentage
and you're helping your team, you know, hopefully win games.
(07:16):
So I think he's he's the perfect kind of role
guy to go along with those two. So your go first,
let's go dude.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
They employ a seven man rotation all the time, and
if so, can it sustain?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, it's it's actually quite funny.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I've been on the call for for some of the
games obviously, so I've gotten to talk to Nico and
that's just what they have right now. That's just it's
it's the lot that they were given with injuries, with
some other different things that are behind the scenes. Regardless
of what's going on, they have seven guys that they're
confident in playing. They're going to play their starters, each
of their starters thirty plus minutes, and then they're going
(07:54):
to use Grayson Grove and Kai Shinholster the freshman off
the bench, both freshmen. One's red shirt, one's a true freshman,
and whatever kind of minutes they can give them, they
give them, whether that be four fouls, whether that be
like Grayson Grove had four big second half dunks in
their win at Northwestern. So whatever they can give you,
they can give you. But they're really going to ride
with their starting five. And if you watch the way
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their offense is played, it's truly positionless. It's that Princeton
style of cutting and flare cuts and backscreens and ball
movement and the ball never moved. It's almost like a
hot potato esque style of offense. So all of them
can pass, all of them can shoot, and I think
when you have the ability to do that, it's really
hard to guard.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Langston Reynolds thirteen thirteen points, thirteen assists against Northwestern last
night twenty two points and correct me if I'm wrong here.
He's not even supposed to be a starter, right, He's
a starter because somebody got hurt.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, he wasn't starting the early in the season.
He's a guy he coming out of Northern Colorado last
year was kind of their go to guy. Obviously that's
a level down, but he was averaging sixteen points a game,
playing more of a kind of an off ball type
of position. But the point guard goes down with an injury,
and Isaac Osama is not really a true point guard either,
more of an off ball so they kind of split
(09:09):
the point guard duties. But he's been excellent just his
vision on the court. Now, you have to give Nico
credit as well for the way that his offense sets
up the ability to pass the ball, but Langston's taken
full advantage of that. He's not a three point shooter.
Ninety percent of his offense comes within the charge arc
inside the paint. He struggles at the free throw line too,
(09:30):
but he's got a relentless ability to get to the
rim and then anytime the defense kind of collapses and
shrinks in, he's able to spray it. To the outside
to really good shooters Kate Tyson shooting it over for
forty percent, Bobby Dirkin a thirty six percent three point shooters.
So anytime you have the ability to collapse the defense,
you're gonna either trying to find buckets for yourself You're
going to spray it out for open shooters.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
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Alma Mater gets USC here Friday, then Bucky comes to
town next Tuesday. Do you think Do you think uh
Nico's squad wins both? Yeah, very different games.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
USC is kind of more a little bit more of
a run and gun, a lot of athleticism. You're gonna
have a lot of length out in the court. Muss
Is is a really good coach gets those guys in
the right spots, that'll probably play a little bit of
zone defense as well. So I think making shots is
going to be key in those games. I'm interested to
see on what they look like. You look at the
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Iowa team, not a very athletic team, really good sets,
good shooters, and Minnesota control them and this is kind
of going to be opposite. It's gonna be a little
bit faster paced. So so Minnesota can't get caught up
in trying to match USC's pace. They got to play
their own game. And then you fast forward to a
Wisconsin team at home. That's always it's always fun that
the barn will be packed, there'll be a great crowd there,
(11:11):
six o'clock tip on Big Ten Network, and it'll be
an excellent game. Wisconsin a little down right now, trying
to kind of find their groove and when it comes
into this Big ten play. So both of these games
are very winnable, and I think if they play the
way that they played defensively against Isola, they have a
chance to beat anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Parker is facing a proverbial fly in the metaphorical ointment.
A tweet from four minutes ago from a man named
Stephen Barr. Thank you for listening, mister Barr Parker. Sorry
to rain on your embulance, but half of the Iowa
team was inflected with some flu like malady. One player
(11:52):
didn't make the trip due to the level of illness.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Wasn't there this guy I can't remember his name, He
wore number twenty three. He supposedly had the flu and
come on, played pretty well.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Michael Jordan, Yeah, oh that guy? All right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, So you're saying it's it's possible, it's I mean
anything possible.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Here's the deal is playing sick is the worst.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It truly is that you run up and down the
court one time and you feel like your lungs are
going to collapse.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's it's terrible. I didn't know that they're about the
Iowa team. But at the end of the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Day, the lights are on, the rests are there, the
ball is tipped, and just play what's in front of you.
You got to play the game. So I think I
try not to dive too deep into all the different
nuances of the game. Is both teams had both their
teams out there, and they played the basketball game and
we won the game.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You're not going to look back and have an asterisk
next to the game, be like the Iowa's team had
the flu. No, it's it's going to show that there
was a w but it's going to be in green, Amen,
Finchy as the howl ballwin. Are you and Young Maxwell
going to do some fan line in the playoffs again
because you don't know where they're going to be, but
they will be postseason bound. That's uh, we got to
continue to all with the homies. Boy, that's right, Hollong
(13:03):
with the homies.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Max, So he's the best man. It's so fun to
work with him, and it's so fun to be a
part of something that we haven't had a whole lot
in my youth and childhood of growing up being a
Timberwolves fan is playoffs. And then we've gotten blessed with
the past couple of years all the way to the
Western Conference Finals. Hopeful week can continue to get more
of that. And the Wolves are looking good right now.
(13:24):
They looked really good last night over Miami. Didn't catch
as much as I wanted to while watching the Gopher game,
but taking care of business, I think that was the
best defensive game they've had this season the lowest opponent
output at ninety four points, So you got to tip
your cap to what they did, especially in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Only seventeen points for Miami heat.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
They So Benci's team beats Bolster twice in a week, Yeah,
which is a handful. Put up one hundred and forty
one in the nation's capital. So that sends somebody like
me to the schedule to find when the next heat
check game is. Has nothing to do with Miami. They
need a heat check game right now. Maybe it's tomorrow
night when the Cavs come to town. Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley,
(14:06):
Jared Allen, that should be a good one.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, home at home too, So you get him at home,
and then you got to go play it at Rocket
Arena in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
That's difficult.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Anytime you play a team twice, you know the first
the first game usually goes to the better team. So
I think Minnesota pulls that one off at home, But
then you got to go on the road against a
team that can scout exactly what you did. But as
we know in the NBA, when you have a guy
like Anthony Edwards that can take over and go for forty.
Scouting doesn't matter sometimes, so one of those deals where
(14:35):
this is a great opportunity right in front of you
to steal two against a really solid Eastern Conference team.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
There's a social media clip bouncing around from Spoulstro's postgame
press conference last night where not only did he call
Rudy Gobert maybe the most underrated player in the NBA,
the effusive praise of how is rebounding has improved and
just what a factor he is, but then beloved Spo
(15:02):
was like, because I guess Rudy, I guess go Beart
got into the team a little bit before yesterday's game
or one of these recent games, and he was like,
you know when I call win that that Rudy got
into the team before the game. I was like, oh,
that's great. You know they're they're gonna be all fired up.
And they were, and then they beat Spo twice. But
some very nice words from one of the one of
(15:23):
the best coaches in the history of the NBA, Eric Spolstra,
about Rudy Gobert was changing games.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, thirteenth season for the Frenchman and it seems like
he just continues to increase his basketball i Q I
think a lot of Woolves fans get frustrated with with
some of the things that you see from Rudy, But
but his impact does not go unnoticed. Just especially defensively.
You see guys that will go into the paint and
they'll just veer off in the other direction because they
know that the stifle towers. That what they're calling him, Stipaul.
(15:51):
He's chilling. He's chilling down there in the lane. I
think anytime Rudy has a fifteen plus rebound type of output,
you give your chance, you give yourself a really good
chance to win. He's been great on the offensive glass,
He's been shooting his free throws decently. It's never been
something that that's been great for him. Every time he
goes to the line, I think Wolves fans kind of
cringe a little bit. But the fact that he's getting
(16:11):
there and the fact that he's putting himself in positions
to get rebounds. I think second in the league and
rebounding this year at eleven point one a game, eleven
point three points. So output is great, and he's running
the court really well. You see some of these highlights
of him being able to get out and transition this
Wolve's team wants to run, especially when you have Julius Randall.
As we've talked about PA, He's confident with the ball
(16:32):
in his hands, point forward type of role. If he's
starting the break, you've got to have somebody else run
to the rim. We always preach you got two bigs,
one of them has got to run right to the
front of the rim. And if the other big has
the hand, that means it's Rudy Gobert's job. That can
result in some easy lob dunks as well.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Rudy is sixth in the NBA okay in offensive rebounds okay,
which is not bad, not bad. The leader is at
four point six. Rudy's got three point nine three nine. Yeah,
so you're looking at it. Yep, we got to hear, okay.
I was gonna quiz you like who Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't got the other names. I only got Rudy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Nordo your LFL raised uh five ahead of Rudy for
offensive rebounding in the twenty twenty five twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Six I don't got I don't got it up either.
Nordo five ahead, so best in the league.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, I think I probably out of Bayo top of
the top of the head. Probably could have gotten one
for sure out of Bayo. I'll give you some hints.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I'm thinking. I'm thinking like Hartenstein types.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm thinking, well, the leader, Mitchell Robinson is in his
second year, I believe, and he plays in the Western Conference?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Is it the Houston Cat Wemby? No, No, Wemby. Wemby
hasn't played enough games.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
The second year Number one is da Dona, Oh Donovan Klingon,
don have been Klingen four nine. Second, the veteran Ossi,
the veteran Ossi who ain't afraid of anybody in the NBA.
Big man aale. I mean, his interviews are phenomenal because
(18:05):
of his accent. Step Adams, Stephen Adams, Adams, third out
for the year for Utah. Oh Kessler, Yeah, fourth Knicks
guy who plays Mitchell Robinson.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Maybe eighteen minutes he.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Grabs him, Mitchell Robinson eighteen minutes a game, four and
a half offensive rebounds.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's unbelievable, relentless, terrible free throw shooter, but relentless on
the grout.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You might be historically bad free throw One of the
worst of all time, wasn't Ben Ben Wallace used to
be the guy. Wasn't that he the guy that's like,
good luck, you can hit three out of ten?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I mean Ben Wallace, Shack, Mitchell Robinson. Yea three of
the worst in the history of the game. But Mitchell
hasn't been healthy in like three years. Good for him.
And the final one right in front of Rudy Gobert.
Eastern Conference. Okay, record wise, I guess best team in
the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh, that'd be it'd be Pistons as a Jalen Durent.
There we go, Yeah, that's right as a monster.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah man Zach Ediam who's still hurt, right behind Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Lastly, here on the how if they trade to become better,
what do they need more a floor general who can
quarterback the first team or some three points scoring off
the bench.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I love the idea of a floor general that can
quarterback the first team, but I don't know if you
have enough or want to give the pieces that you
would have to give away to have a first team
type of floor general.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I think you would have to give up too much.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Dante Nas probably a guy like Leonard Miller, maybe a
Jalen Clark in there.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
As well. I think that's just too much.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I think when you look at the way they've kind
of changed their offensive approach. Early in the season, they
had the ball in Dante's hands a lot, and continually
throughout the ball game he does have the ball in
his hands, but Anthony Edwards is primary ball handler. Julius
Randall with some different options as the point forward. You
love that aspect of his team. I do, But as
(20:00):
a mixer has a mixer. So like in the OKC.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Western Conference Final, it was the bit yeah, and and
what's your guy's name who coaches the thunder, Yeah, thank you.
So took him five seconds to pick up on it.
And he's like, Okay, if you want Julius to shoot
ten threes a game, we're gonna let him shoot ten
threes a game.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know, because I think.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The the co manning, the the ball handling, the floor
general aspect for Dante DiVincenzo and and and he's I mean,
he's doing some winning things, yeah for sure. When he
gets his hands on a ton of basketballs, and you know,
he takes away things in subtle fashion's three point shooting,
he's broke man, and it just it just hasn't been
(20:42):
as lethal consistently, you know, since he's got gotten into
the starting five, because he's has so many other things
to work.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Uh, to deal with.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I would imagine, yeah, and he's like three for his
last twenty six I believe that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And Julius hasn't hasn't been great from three either. I
don't like Julius from three that much. I like him
like two or three a game.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Max.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I think when he puts his head down in attacks,
you think that's when he's at his best.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I do.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I would love a little bit more bench help. I
think they haven't been to the level defensively that that
Chris Finch would want them. I think they were really
good last night defensively the good there, and I think
they're trending in the right direction. But you look at
that that that Brooklyn loss, like that's an unacceptable one,
just defensively. That Brooklyn's a terrible offensive team. You can't
take off nights. And I get it, it's one of those,
(21:27):
you know, cogs in the system in an eighty two
game season. But I think if you have to look
at something specifically, I look at the defensive effort, how
can you bring even more Gelan Clark, Maybe you bring
in uh, somebody that's known for for their defensive energy.
We talked TJ McConnell, Nordle. I absolutely love that. It's
still stuck on my brain. But I think at the
(21:47):
end of the day, it's cliche. But defense wins championships
and if you can find a way to bring in
somebody that can help you on that side of the ball.
You got the scoring an Aunt and Julius and and Jayden,
when when Jayden's on his offensive game, you need that
that defensive side of the.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Ball as well. Packers are Bears. Who do you like
and why Bears? Right away?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, it's quick, it's quick twitch for me. Yeah, I
think it's a pick them game.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I know it's a pick them game, which I'm going
quick twitch. I think Ben Johnson is ready for this moment.
I think they're going to have it going offensively. I'm excited.
I think it's gonna be I think there's a lot
of really good games. I think phenomenal. You look across
the whole slate, it's really anyone's anyone's deal. I think
there's you can make an argument for a lot of
teams have the opportunity to win this thing. But I
(22:31):
really like the Bears. I like where they're at, and
I like I like their defense.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
As well as SINNI and Studio at eleven o'clock for
some border battle and does some playoff previewing with a
Dave Sennekim. Great scene, Taylor last night at that surprise
party at Canterbury. You guys look super happy and the
banker I was there to make sure everything was just
perfect for the nights.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh yeah, he was looking over he was looking over everybody.
He was fired up.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, I got Nordo barely knows the banker. Tim Siegley.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, but every time you see me, chortles or chuckles
or smiles, because Nordo can sense a good vibe. Yeah,
he just knows there's something pure, good, righteous and help
worthy here.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
It's a good human right there. It's the banker. The
smile never leaves his face. He and his wife were
so nice to chat with last night. Now that that
was an awesome party at Canterbury. That was so fun.
That was terrific. I'm really glad your daughter could be
there as well. Just the whole bit.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It was.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It was excellent. The food is great, the people were great.
And yeah, it's great to see the banker. We got
lunch today at now and so I'm sure we'll be
chatting a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You had no idea, did you?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
None?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Until I got off the third floor elevator, looked left.
Oh yeah, well my son had sold to me for
a week and change. There is a an employee Canterbury Park,
employee only Turbo Texas Holdham tournament. You're fired up, and dad,
my gift to you for your sixtieth birthday is it's
one hundred dollars a person. I'm going to buy you
in Like all right, I mean, I'm laying on my
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couch at six o'clock, honestly, with all due respects of
the last thing I wanted to do. I was wondering,
there's nobody here. This is weird. It's my sixtieth birthday.
There's nobody at my house right now. It's weird. It's lonely.
So then Buddy shows up. We roll to Canterbury. I
get off the third floor elevator and it starts to
hit me like, well, why are we doing a poker
tournament up here? And then I look left and I
see the balloons. Then I come into the room and
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I had to turn away. I was so touched and moved.
I mean I just looked like Nordo Parker, Taylor, Alix
charge Utah Mouse.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I just was unbelievable it. Nordo brought Eva and Stella.
There were friends from my church. Chris Hockey sang, oh
so good. Adam Daniel played the keyboard about eighty of
you just did a great job keeping secrets because I
was blown away. My daughter Coley flew in from Denver,
Derek driving me to Canterbury for the surprise shindig was cool.
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The TLC and love that Lisa put into the evening
second to none church and Roxy flew in from Utah.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That woke the old up and I was genuinely touched. Man,
So thank you guys very much. Awesome. The videos were
so cool just to see you just just with the
old like no gray hair, hair in one chin. Who
is this guy?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Who is this guy on top of these racehorses?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That was excellent, man, it was really really great scene
Taylor as I adore your fiance and sir a good
fashion and holy cow, what a game changer on the ice.
She is, Man, I ain't breaking news here or anything,
but talking to her for three minutes about that social
media clip I saw against somebody recently where she won
the game and the goalie had her eyes closed trying
to catch the pucks.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You got snipe so badly. I'm like breaking down hockey
with her.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
It was cool.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, she was on the tails of an eleven day
road trip, but we we had to there for you.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It was it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, God bless you and your family, Matt Man, and
I love you too, thank you for coming.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Likewise, Ernardo and Ava and Stella. Man, that was so
great seeing your kids last night. Can't stop thinking about it.
Oh they love you, man, and I love them. Wonderful,
wonderful young girls. All right.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
See a pea Fox Parker Fox at Parker Fox two
four part of the Timber Tech What's on Deck set list,
which includes bikes bites right around the corner, followed by
Mike Florio. If you put together an elongated bikes bites
and we clip on it a little bit. Because of
the Steve's Appliances marathon, we got plenty of spots to
a mix of men during the course of the show,
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and Florio joins about nine. At ten o'clock, we have
a vikings talker of the day with talkbacks tied to them. Yes,
and Donordo is going to be leading that Alas, there's
much more on the Wednesday nine to noon presentation, And
I'm Paul Allen.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You're listening to nine to Noon at FM one hundred
point three KFA Night Spots, Vikes Bites, Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
It's nine to noon, nine thirty. Mike Florio around the corner.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
As Pa mentioned last segment, at ten am, were going
to start. I don't know if it's going to be
an everyday thing. If we do it just once today
and never do it again, that feels unlikely. But a
talkback talker of the day, So if you're interested in
participating and offering some big opinions on the purple, that's
going to be around ten o'clock. But Vike's Bite starts
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now and we just have a handful of minutes. I
did want to hit on a couple of things here though,
including Brian O'Neil talking about the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Feel for him personally.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I would say this one might be easier because we
knew that this was the last one, if that makes sense,
or last year we were planning to play for I
was planning to play for a while, So when it
abruptly ends and you weren't expecting you to, that makes
it harder. Yeah, I guess that's kind of a different sounds.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like Brian going through kind of similar mentality.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Is those of us that follow the team, love the team,
and the emotional roller coaster of a season. We knew
kind of after that Bears game you mentioned at PA's
this two percent thing. I'm just not going to ride
that vibe. It's just it's not going to work this year.
And and then that became the human nature part of
things that you spoke of and guys like Brian, if
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you can play, you can play, which leads me to
this audio clip.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
I don't think there's regret because there's a lot of
things that it's all out of our control with injuries
and that type of thing. But I sure would have
liked to had our full group with out there more
than we were. So yeah, but you can't. You can't
have regrets, and you got to leave it all out
there and if you can play, you play, and if
you can't, you know, somebody else has to step in.
And that was kind of the nature of our room
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and really our team this year.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well what Brian, Those are excellent clips, by the way,
because Brian opens the door if somebody is so inclined.
When looking forward to the what's X plan? Where Monday
we were like, I mean the mandates right now are are?
What was the order I put them in? McCarthy, Yeah,
(29:09):
McCarthy drafting better. Flores Yeah, Flores Flores figure that and
they're right the draft bit McCarthy draft ye to start
to just start drafting better, with all due respect to
get players who who help quicker and.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
More effectively in certain spots.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
All right, But then behind that you have a whole
slew of talkers with talkbacks for the off season that
are non obvious.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Brian just put us on one.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I mean, he's he's opening the door for those to
read between the lines and when he says, if you
can play, you play right, and then he stops it
right there, just trying to figure out like.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I mean, like, what do you mean all those concussions
for Ryan Kelly? I know you don't mean that right,
So that was it interesting?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
No, And that's the frustrating part of nine and eight
radio is identifying that identifying financial levers to pull in
all those things. I mean, we're going to be digging
deep in the weeds, and well, I'm going to dive
head first into the weeds at ten am with my
talkback talker on a Wednesday morning and we'll go a
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little bit deeper there.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
One more or two more, Little Vike's bitch.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
How do you evaluate the tight end room in twenty
twenty five and then kind of couple that with moving forward.
It's a little difficult for me, and I know the
coaches will, we'll have their processes and such. This could
lead down the road of TJ. Hawkinson and that money
he's going to make. It could lead down the road
of what do you think of Josh Oliver if if
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you featured him more only nineteen targets, fifteen catches, but
he was tied for the team leading touchdown receptions this year.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
You made Ben simm sound like a cross between Bryce
and Nesbit and Josh Wiley, And you're a second and.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You're a second the baby carrots.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
But I just when you when you come into an offseason.
You want to have not you don't need absolutes, but
you need leans. You need ideas and trends that push
you forward. And when you try to evaluate this tight
end grouping, it's very difficult for me to do that, Pa,
because of what we got out of the quarterback spot
this year. The idea, Hey, you know, we bring in
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Jordan Mason if we can establish him. For the most part,
I thought Jordan Mason nearly five oclip when he was
healthy and active, like, I love the first season that
we got out of Jordan Mason.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Me too, kind of wish we got more out of him,
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And with Jordan, I loved how he messed up his
ankle in a losing season and it was important for
him to come back and play.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yes, you know where good If you can play, you
can play.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Seriously, that's the That's the around Banksgiving when I'm like,
all right, boys, these are human nature games, yea. And
for those who know what to look for, you know
where to look, but it will reveal itself.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And with Mason it didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean, he messed up his ankle early in that
Giants game when when he was on the cart heading
back to the locker room. I mean I thought he
was done for the year. I mean he had like
a towel over his head. He was banging his fist down.
He was so frustrated he couldn't play. But then in
an in nine and eight radio season, my man comes
back plays makes a difference, he does.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Indeed, I love that Vike's bites. We're gonna pause now.
I do have some things in my back pocket. As
you mentioned, we got some openings later on. But Mike Florio,
Pro Footballtalk dot Com his weekly appearances around the corner PA.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Indeed, it's nine thirty six PFT radio next on Kfan.
My Glorio pro football Talk dot Com, author of us
several books, including Bother of Mine and Big Shield, nice
enough to join nine to noon each and every week
part of the well respected NBC Football Night in America crew,
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and Mike joins us. Now into the D nine and
eight around here, Man, what do you think moving forward
for the Vikings in good morning?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Well, hey, the good news is that of the fourteen
playoff teams, thirteen are guaranteed did not finish the year
with a five game winning streak. So the Vikings have
that there is for them, which is nice. Look, they
averted a disaster when it was four and eight. It
was as bad as it could have been, and there's
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something to be said for the resilience that the team showed,
the leadership that Governor O'Connell displayed to get things turned around,
especially since most of those games. Four of those games
were played at the time when the team knew it
had no chance of making it to the playoffs. And
it's good that it was done then because when you
look at the final standings, it's tantalizing to see how
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close the Vikings were to snatching that seventh seed. And
I don't know how the tie breakers would have gone
if the Cowboys and Packers hadn't tied all the way
back in the week fourth, the Packers had lost that game,
My gut tells me the Vikings probably would have won
the tiebreaker. Now again, that Packers would have made a
greater effort to try to win the game than they did.
But regardless, finishing with five in a row thirty years
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ago that would mean a lot more. As it relates
to the carryover to the next season, roster is going
to be very different. Coaching staff could be very different.
With each passing hour that Brian Flores doesn't sign an extension,
it becomes more likely that he takes at least a
lateral move, And even if he does sign an extension,
he could become the head coach of one of the
seven teams that are currently looking for a new guy
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to lead the locker room. So it's good, but it's
an asterisk because next year is going to be very different.
But it's better to finish the way they did than
to finish the way the Jets did with five straight
losses and a combined point differential minus one thirty seven
twenty seven point four points per game they lost by
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It's always better to go into the offseason with a
team that feels optimistic, and anyone who is next year
is going to benefit from that vibe.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
All right, So at Pro football Talk dot com yesterday,
I read this story about former Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins
and Atlanta and a modified deal all right and fairness
and announcer act. I'm dumb because I read that and
I'm like, all right, well, he's going to stay in Atlanta. Well,
then I read further and I saw some other things
were like with this modified deal, it makes it easier
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for him to leave Atlanta. And this is going to
be an off season here with people talking about veteran
backups or veterans who can compete for the one spot.
What do you think about all that with Kirk o chains.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Well, here's what the contract revision ultimately means. Because what
happened was somebody reported about the modification. One of the
other writers at PFT wrote about the modification, and then
when I had a chance, I did a little digging
to see what it all really means. Here's what will happen.
On March eleven or March twelve, the Falcons will release
Kirk Cousins with a post June one designation. The contract
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adjustment it was done earlier this week, whatever day they
did it. It was all about reducing the cap number
that the Falcons will carry until June two, when financially
the release hits the books, and it was about ensuring
that the Falcons will have no choice but to cut
him before March thirteen. He won't be on the market
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technically when the market opens, but anyone who's going to
be looking for a quarterback will know that Kirk Cousins
is in play and therefore will be considering him as
an option, and he'll get the best possible deal that
he can because the reality is the longer it takes
for you to hit the market, the less money is
going to be available because teams burned through their budgets.
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So Cousins is going to be available for any team
that's looking. But when you consider the landscape, the Jets,
the Steelers, maybe the Browns, the Raiders, the Cardinals, there
are teams out there that definitely are going to be
considering their options at QB one and needs to happen,
and we see this every year. The coaching carousel needs
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to stop before the quarterback carousel begins because where will
the head coaches be, Who will be the head coaches,
who will be the offensive coordinators? Where do we draw
lines and connect dots back to Kirk Cousins. Those things
are all relevant to what the options will be for
the teams who need starting quarterbacks to consider Kirk Cousins.
And he played well enough down the stretch that he's
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going to get another pay day three hundred and twenty
one million in career earnings, and he's going to get
more money Now, he's guaranteed to get ten million from
the Falcons, but that's subject to offset, and he's clearly
going to make more than ten million this year. The
question is how much more than thirty thirty five is
he going to make. I think he will get paid.
I think he'll be somebody's QWB one as of Week one,
and I think that fact makes it less likely he'd
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come back to Minnesota for anything other than a clear
assurance that he's the starting quarterback. The last thing he's
going to want to do is another one of these
situations where he does a deal and then he finds
out six weeks later they've drafted his replace. He's gonna
be very careful about that this time around, because he
got burned by that in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right, So when I lay something outs minus seven hundred,
given your wheeling West Virginia raised, you know exactly what
I'm talking about. And earlier in the week I said
JJ McCarthy in my estimation is a minus seven hundred
favorite to start Week one for the Vikings next year.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Well? I don't know. All I know is this, if
he's going to be the Week one starter, they'd better
have somebody there who is able to step in when
he inevitably gets hurt. That's the biggest issue, whatever improvement
he makes, and there's been plenty of talk about footwork
and mechanics, and he's only got one pitch in the arsenal,
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and it's a fastball, and it prevents the kind of
layering of passes that can work the middle of the field,
which the Vikings have done very well in past years.
They need someone who will be happy to be there,
paid accordingly to be the one bee to McCarthy's one A.
And I think you have to give that person a
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fair chance to win the starting job. You're not going
to get them to sign if you don't tell them
they have a fair chance, and they'll get a fair chance,
and at the end of the day they'll start the
best guy. I think that McCarthy hasn't done enough this
year to have that job guaranteed, And if you're going
to have a capable alternative, you have to give that
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person a fair shake at competing for the starting job.
So I'm not going to go minus seven hundred because
I think the kind of guy the Vikings need as
insurance against future inevitable JJ McCarthy injuries is going to
be somebody who's potentially good enough to win the starting job.
I think it's that simple. So the Vikings just need
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to do what's best for the team. In twenty twenty six,
they failed to do that. In twenty twenty five, they
failed to have someone there who would be the viable
alternative to JJ McCarthy, and that's one of the reasons
why even with a nine to eight record, it's not
good enough to get to the postseason p FT.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Is the autumn wind going to be a Flores? You
think the Raiders tried to woo Brian Flores to become
their next head coach.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
I caught wind of the rumor over the weekend from
somebody I've known for a long time and somebody I
trust that this Brian Flores and Brian dabol combination in
Las Vegas is out there. The steam's there, and it
makes sense when you consider this. Tom Brady was able
last year to keep his head low and his mouth
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shut as it relates to how much involvement he had
in the concoction of a twenty twenty five Raiders team
that ended up being abysmally bad. It was reported by
the Las Vegas Review Journal a year ago. It's Tom show. Now.
The problem is he's a part timer. He's not there
every day. He's chiming in from time to time and
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probably irritating to people who are there putting in the work.
No one resents being told what to do by somebody
who isn't there working elbow to elbow. And the statement
that came out on Monday from the Raiders when they
fired Pete Carroll said that GM John Spytech, in close
collaboration with Tom Brady, will lead the football operation, including
the search for a new coach. So you know, you
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think about this personality wise, teams tend to go for
the exact opposite of the guy they fired. So if
Pete Carroll you have the raw, raw, always positive players
coach and it was a complete and total disaster, the
exact opposite is a guy who has belichickie in DNA,
and that's what Brian Floores is and Brian Daball is.
And I think if Josh McDaniels hadn't already been the
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coach of the Raiders and failed miserably, he'd be at
the top of the list. I mean, really, if McDaniels
doesn't have that miserable second stint in Las Vegas, he's
one of the top candidates right now, at least until
John Harball got dropped into the mix. So if Brady
is going to be calling the shots, I think Brady
is going to want to try to create a Patriot
Way because look at what happened when they created it
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this year in New England with Mike Vrabell. Even though
he never worked as a coach for Bill Belichick, he
played for Belichick. He's the perfect combination. I think of
Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick. He's got the right personality
that's going to be the key in Las Vegas. And
I think it makes Flores and day Ball or day
Ball in Flores. It could be day Ball as the
head coach and Flores as a defensive coordinator. But either way,
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I think Tom Brady has to be at a point
where if he's not going to be there all the time,
he needs people there running the show who learned how
to win from the same guy that Tom Brady learned
how to win from. So it all makes sense. It
almost makes too much sense. You know, a lot of
times something makes so much sense it's never going to happen,
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but I guarantee you that rumor was out there and
it caught my attention over the weekend, and it's something
I'm going to monitor as the Raiders move forward.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
How does Brady got all this decision making power and
get to call games for Fox with Burkhart?
Speaker 6 (43:04):
How does that help get me started?
Speaker 5 (43:05):
It started?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Well, seriously, well, I mean we've talked about it before,
like when he was in the coaches booth and you
started writing about it and stuff, and it was seen
it like Monday Night Football or whatever. But then I
mean it kind of went in one ear and out
the other. For me, I didn't think it was that big.
But now all of a sudden, we're talking about this
minority owner with all this cachet making these massive decisions
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and getting to call games and go to other facilities.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
From the moment that Fox hired Brady while his bid
to buy a piece of the Raiders was pending, my
first reaction was, the NFL is never going to approve
Tom Brady owning a piece of the Raiders. If he's
in this position where he's covering the entire league, he
has access that no other owner has as somebody said
when this all first finally became a thing after the
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Monday night game between the Chargers and the Raiders, where
Brady was in the booth, and it's funny if you
watch that clip, he hits the button and drops the
chair down as low as possible. He's sitting there with
the tablet, he's got the headset on. He's working with
the Raiders coaches. Sometimes people need to see it to
understand the issues. And somebody, I can't remember who it was, said,
would you have an issue I think it was Marcus
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Spears on ESPN, would you have an issue with Jerry
Jones calling games for Fox. He's the owner of the
Cowboys and he's out there in all these different stadiums.
And this is the key. You're in a position where
you're down on the field before the game, and you
get to see guys in a different context, and you
talk to a bunch of people, and people are going
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to want to talk to you because the coaches and
the executives, they don't think of it the way fans do.
Fans pick a team for life. Coaches and executives pick
a team for a paycheck and an opportunity, and if
it doesn't work out with the team I'm with, then
there's going to be another team out there that may
hire me in. One of those thirty two teams is
the Raiders run by Tom Brady, and that's what Mark
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Davis wanted. Davis said last January he brought in Tom
Brady to fill the role that had been held by
John Gruden to stabilize the football operation. I have to
wonder what Davis thinks about the stability that Tom Brady
has brought the Davis is fine with this absentee landlord Gig.
I think it's a problem, and I think he needs
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to either be all in or all out. And you know,
from my perspective, when we went through and ranked the
desirability on a scale of one to ten of all
the various openings, I mean, from my perspective, I have
one view of that team if tom Brady's all in.
I have another view of that team if Tom Brady
is kind of halfway in, and another view of that
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team if he just says I'm going to be a
passive investor and I'm not going to be involved in
management at all. But we know that's not going to happen.
He's involved, and whoever takes that job is going to
have to deal with the fact that after every game
he's going to get a phone call from Tom Brady,
who wasn't at the game, who may not have even
watched all of the game, and tom Brady's going to
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have opinions on what that guy needs to do better.
Do you really, as a head coach, do you really
want that in your life when you got enough other
stuff to deal with? And my guess is it drove
Pete Carroll crazy, And until Chip Kelly was fired, it
probably bothered him too that Tom Brady was chiming in
with all sorts of thoughts based upon watching the game
from afar.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Time for two more, did Kevin Stefanski take the fall
for Cleveland dysfunction?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
And if so, why him a two time Coach of
the Year.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Don't call the Browns dysfunctional. The owner has asked nicely
that we not call the Browns dysfunctional, So from this
point forward, I am referring to them as the definitely
not dysfunctional Browns. Okay, look, this all goes back to
the Deshaun Watson deal, the single worst transaction in league history,
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worse than herschel Walker. Here's why you give up three
first round picks, you give up three second round picks.
You lose the ability to bring in young, cheap players
who will form the nucleus of your team moving forward.
And you give forty six million per year on a
five year contract, two hundred and thirty million fully guaranteed
to Deshaun Watson at a time when you know he's
going to get suspended. He's got more than twenty at
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the time civil lawsuits pending against them alleging sexual misconduct
during the massage therapy sessions that resulted in eleven game suspension.
It derailed his twenty twenty two season. He didn't play
in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three, he gets injured.
They cobble together a playoff appearance, pulling Joe Flacco off
the couch. Kevin Stefanski was a two time Coach of
the Year because he took the Browns of the playoffs twice.
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Because nobody ever expects the Browns to go to the playoffs,
not under Jimmy has them Haslum's the problem, and this
is the core issue for every fan of every definitely
not dysfunctional team. You can't fire the cote the owner.
There's no recall vote. You're stuck. Jed York said it
when he went through the stretch of fired, Jim Harbaugh,
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fired Jim tom Sulla, fired Chip Kelly. He said in
a press conference, you don't dismith. It's the owner that's
the problem. You're stuck and somebody had to take the fall.
Think of it this way. Number one, for every team,
when the season ends, you got to get your season
ticket holders to renew. So you got to do something
to get them feeling good about the team. And in Cleveland,
especially Paul, they get that new stadium coming, I guarantee
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you they're going to have PSLs massive investment. Capital investment.
Got to pay that phony money for the right to
sit in the seat that you otherwise buy with your
season ticket money. So they got to do something, and
I don't know what their plan is. They need to
make a big swing. I'm surprised they're not at the
front of the line for John Harbaugh. That's the kind
of move that they need to make. If you're going
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to inspire the fan base to plunk down a significant
amount of disposable income for PSLs, you need to go
out there and you need to get a big name.
And really, if I'm a guy with options, that's the
last team I'm going to go work for, even though
they're definitely not dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Packers are Bears. Who do you fancy in that one?
Or what are you going to be looking for?
Speaker 6 (48:58):
Probably the Bears because the Packers haven't won a game
since the game during which Michael Parsons suffered the torn
ACL I think that took the air out of the balloon.
The best chance for the Packers would be, in my opinion,
have a Malik Willis package ready to go and use it.
The Bears had trouble defending him. And if you've got
both Jordan Love and Malik Willis and you're going to
(49:20):
use both of them, you're going to maximize your chance
to win the game. And if the Packers lose, I
don't rule out a coaching change there. You know, seven
teams called John Harbaugh's agent about him possibly joining their team.
Only six vacancies are out there other than the Ravens.
Somebody who currently has a coach called Brian Harland's son
(49:42):
of former Packers CEO Bob Harlan, and inquired and ed policy.
The current president of the Packers made it clear before
the season. This is basically an upper out year from
Att Lafleur, whose team has made it to the playoffs
three straight years as the seventh seed. If they hadn't
expanded the playoffs in twenty twenty, the Packers to be
writing a four year streak of no playoffs. So this
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is one of those games that I think carries a
potentially significant outcome for the Packers if they lose. But
if they want to win this one, you got to
get Malik Willis out there. This is their last stretch
with the leak Willis. He ain't going to be there
next year. He's going to be somebody's starter next year.
They should use him while they have him.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
That was excellent, Have a great to enjoy the games,
Seapaul Mike Florioprofootball Talk dot com, author of many books,
including the most recent Big Shield, and you can learn
more about that at Pro Football Talk dot Com p
f T. You know, we love it nine to noon
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