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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don Soaked Monday morning, Minneapolis and Saint Paul six' five
one carpets plus. Studios It's nordo in For PA. Pa returning.
Tomorrow by the, way as we find our way down
To Twin Cities Orthopedics Performance center And, egan we're gonna
chat with the head coach and we're gonna finally get
a freaking. Answer is It carson or is IT jj
(00:22):
or at least we'll get a vibe for how the
week's gonna. Go and in the end we're just gonna
have to wait and find some some nuggets of intel via.
Practice but with that, said the hockey, team we are your,
home not just For vikings, Football gophers. Sports i'll get
to the Timber tech. Setlist the head coach a homecoming
w for The. Gophers he's gonna Join Parker fox in
the mix sky You, Mob maroon and. Gold faithful as he,
(00:43):
is we're your home for a wild hockey as. Well
the good times.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Our play is winding down From. Minnesota they're eighth of
the evening boo him to the right side of set
By russeys.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Playing all the. Nights we like, that but sadly bad
times as.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well freesoft kept a coming boom and he had a
poked away by Coil out in the. Center but race
Here coyle rolls into the left, side Empty netpooon And.
Janner he scores and it's seven For. Columbus for the,
while put a lot of work in this hockey, Game Tom,
reid give them. Credit they did not go, quietly but.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Peez, joe, okay, well seven to four is the final
setting the scene from a ice tunnel standpoint and sideline,
access locker.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Room, interviews all of.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That from the television side of, Things kevin Gorgat Gorga
matic two to one VIA. X how you doing this,
Morning Kevin.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Norder i'm doing. Great Happy monday to. You, yeah a
little bonus tonight with some hockey on A monday, night
and certainly off that five nothing Win saturday night could
have been pretty, spectacular but The Blue jackets had other,
plans and you, know you look back at that game
and it was super entertaining from a fans. Perspective both
teams came, out had a bunch of. CHANCES i looked
(02:00):
at the analytics this morning and the expected goals four
were five to Four. Minunesota that doesn't tell the whole. Story,
yeah you saw a lot of. Positives that top line
continues to. Dominate The power plays off to a good.
Start See william gets on the score sheet and scores
his first Night jel. Goal but the bottom line is
they gave up too much Between gus and some of
the breakdowns, defensively some things to clean up into game
(02:22):
number three of eighty. Two, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Certainly you, KNOW i was going TO i was going
to ask.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You you, know it's the first game at The Grand Casino,
arena but if we're gonna nickname it the slot, machine
we can't be handing out sevens every, night. Right it's
just kind of kind of a weird vibe to the
first two.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Games Gorgy, well AND i think that's the elephant in the.
Room if you talk to the players throughout training camp
like we, did and you were around last, year you
know they were one of the best road teams in
The National Hockey league last. Year that's the reason they
made the. Postseason and we're so spoiled that we're used
to this, Team nordal being dominant In Saint, paul but
they weren't last. Year and they've all talked about needed
(03:02):
to be a better team on home. Ice in, FACT
i interviewed the, Captain Jared spurgeon a couple hours before
faceoff On, saturday and it's certainly something that is on their,
mind and so that that is a part of the
storyline tonight as. Well you don't want to start owing
two at. Home they've got a daunting five game road
trip that starts In dallas tomorrow, night and they've got
to get back to being a better team on whole.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Ice now with, that with that, said the you mentioned
the power play through, TWO i think they they. Have
they had four in the in that game the other,
night but five in. Total you, know as a hockey,
fan as a wild, fan special teams have kind of
been a talker in a concern at times over the
last decade and a half or. So but the but
(03:45):
what you've seen through too is there is there anything
that jumped out at you and it's like it's early,
on there's eighty two of these. Things no need to
make mountains out of mole. Hills but this is kind
of a positive cool bit That i'm loving into the night's,
game specifically against The.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Kings, well it starts with ninety seven right when When
Caroka priesoff is playing at this. Level and we did
see this last, year AND i think it's important to
Remind wild fans that through The christmas break last, year
the team was eighteen four and four And Caroka prisoff
was the betting favorite in all markets to be THE,
(04:19):
mvp to be The Heart trophy. Winner he drives this hockey,
team and he certainly drives this power. Play and you're
looking at the way he is playing setting the tone
right now on the power. Play they're winning punk, battles
they're getting zone. Time, Certainly Ze volume is a is
a quarterback that's going to make this power play. Better
there's no doubt about. It but you, Know boldie and
(04:40):
capriof to me have such good chemistry and they're so
good in tight space and to maintain, possession to not.
PANIC i, Mean Matt boldie is a. Magician watch him
on the half wall sometimes when there's one or two
players around, him how patient he is with the fuck
using his reach and his. Skill and these guys have been.
(05:00):
Fabulous they're clicking it over forty. PERCENT a power play
can be such a catalyst for good. Things and if
you get off to a fast. Start sometimes you never look.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Back you, KNOW i had never heard in you, Know
Dean evison on the other, bench of, course and you
know that connection to The Minnesota wild And dean all
love and things, aside probably doesn't mind beating his former.
Team but this elviscat net nearly fifty. Saves you Got
marchenko with the hattie last night they came to play
In Saint.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Paul, well you knew With Dean evison that was going
to be the. Case and then you layer that with
the fact That columbus played a winning game At nashville opening.
Night they put thirty nine bucks on the, net they
had a goal called, back they lost a two to
one hockey. Game Dean everson coming, back having a guy
Like Charlie, coyle another former member of The minnesota while
(05:47):
that plays such a significant. Role but Murth leakins was the.
STORY i, mean when you pumped in a franchise high
fifty two shots on, goal you feel like you're likely
going to win a hockey. Game and you Know minnesota
was coming off that five nothing win In Saint. LOUIS
i don't think that score was completely indicative of the
way that game. Went Bill gustafson was so good in
period number. Two and If Saint louis scores in those
(06:10):
first twelve minutes when they had The wild on their
heels and make it a two to one hockey, game
that game probably ends up being quite a. Grinder But
gustafson was brilliant in The wild get up to that
great starting win. Five nothing but the psychology coming into
that game On, saturday certainly you Knew columbus was going
to give you their best and they, did and to their,
credit they made some unbelievable. Plays they've got a carill,
(06:31):
too And marshenko had the hat. Trick he's a six
to three. Guy he can, move he can shoot the,
puck and The wild was just a little bit too
Loose nordo, defensively whether it was off the rush or
in the. Zone and CERTAINLY i think if you're going
to have success not only tonight against The, kings who
are very, stingy but on this daunting road, trip it's
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the next two. WEEKS i know it's, early and again
we're just getting started that these next two weeks are
going to be a.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Challenge how Is How's how's tarisenk look through?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Too you, know and he doesn't have to score them
all right, away but just through a couple of, games
just trying to think what does a career resurgence or
a boost to the elder statesman's career look like wearing our?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Colors what did you think of lad out?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
There, well certainly he's one of the Players i'm focusing
in on early in the season to see what kind
of start he gets out. To and you, know we
had a chance to talk To John hines over the
weekend and kind of set his, expectations And hines has
seen a thing or two and he thinks there's no
doubt this guy can score twenty to twenty, five which
would be a huge shot in the arm For. MINNESOTA
i thought he was just okay In Saint, louis going
(07:35):
back to where he won That Stanley cup for the first.
TIME i thought he might have been just a little
bit off in that. GAME i thought he was significantly
better On saturday. Night his puck possession was, good certainly
a part of that power play and a veteran that
brings that type of poise to that. Situation and SO
i like the way he played On. Saturday and and
they're going to need this guy with With Matt zucrelo
(07:58):
out now for the likely six to eight weeks of the,
season you've got to, have you, know more than one
line pumping doles in and that second line That tarasenko
is a big part of with Jul rics and k
by his. SIDE i still think the other side is
a work in. Progress felino has been, solid But i'm
not sure that's a long term. Solution But, tarasenko if
(08:20):
you're a wild, fan is certainly a player here in
the early part of the season you want to focus
in on because he can be a bit of AN x. Factor,
nord do you know what you're gonna get from that
top line almost every single? Night but they can't be
asked to always carry the offensive. Workload they've got to
have supplementary, scoring and this is a guy he can
score twenty to twenty. Five it could be a real
(08:41):
key part of.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
That, no that's that's.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Sweet that's That's Kevin Gorg by the, way At Gorgo
mattic two to one VIA x you'll see him in
the entire Fan Duel Sports North network crew puck drop
shortly after seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Tonight if you are so. Inclined you can hear the radio.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Version of it as, well of, course With joe And
Tom reid six forty Five Fallness, FESTIVAL i, believe and
then seven ishpuck drop again right here on the radio
side of, Things, HUNTER i believe It's Hunter hate Or
heighte who made his Debut. Hat it Is, hate, okay
So Hunter hate and he you, know he's making his debut.
PLAYS i mean he probably played like seven or eight
(09:19):
minutes in that, game but all the, same just excited
About Nico sterm coming in all those face.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Offs that's a position to.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Need now you hear With surgery and you speak Of zucarello's,
Injury Nico storm feels like a similar. Timeline are we
just you know early on it's that kind of speaks
to what you're talking, about not just needing guys Like
Tara senko to step up and score, goals but just
thinking about depth of of what this looks like For
heinzy in the short.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Term, Yeah Hunter hat had a terrific season last. Year you, know,
REMEMBER i think everybody knows that The wild had a
ton of. Injuries, yeah, well with those injuries come a
lot of call ups from The Iowa, Wild so it
was a depleted run user on The American league, side
and this kid scored twenty goals sixty seven, games a
lot of times having to do it all by. Himself
(10:08):
he's got, speed he's got rink, savvy he's got certain,
skill and he had an outstanding training, camp and you,
know it's. DIFFICULT i felt bad For hunter and his
linemates On saturday because when you have a game Like,
saturday with all those special team sequences on both sides
of the, ledger that bench has to get shortened. Up
and they were the victims of. That when they, PLAYED
(10:29):
i thought they brought some good, jews some good. Energy
they're not going to be asked to score a lot of.
Goals what they're going to be asked to do is
bring some energy and go out there and play a responsible,
game and so far they've done. THAT i think we're
going to See danilla year off at some, point whether
it's tonight or. Tomorrow they want to get him a
chance in that same. SPOT i like the youth that
they're trying to develop and let them do that slowly
(10:51):
at that, position and not a lot of silver lines
when you lose a guy Like Nico. Sturm he's really
going to be. MISSED i was so excited about that
signing Because minnesota in the face off circle on the
penalty kill needed A joel Like. Nicost we're going to
get him. Back it's going to be Like, zuperrello as you,
mentioned six to eight. Weeks SO i think The wild
have a chance to really take off in the second.
(11:12):
Half but in the, meantime the sober lining is we
get to See hunter and we get to See daniella
and see what they can.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Do absolutely kings in town tonight for this. One you
get to See Darcy. Kent do you fall in love
with names at? All gorgy Like, Darcy, Kemper Kevin fialas In.
TOWN i don't know How kopatar is still doing it
at thirty, eight but he is a few dimes so.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Far through three.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Games they grind their way to a shootout win against Against,
vegas but they take that. LA i think you mentioned
it at the top that they struggled Against shiflee and
The jets the other.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Night what you do you.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Get excited about kind of seeing some of those familiar
faces and just kind of playing the matchup.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Game in front of these. Contests, WELL i like when.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
The kings are always a fun. Watch and WHEN i
think of, NICKNAMES i remember When bruce Blu row was
our head, coach he Called Darcy Kemper pumps AND i
used to hit a big chuffle out of. That Kevin
fiala is always a player to. Watch thirty five goals last.
Year you know that was going back to that. Trade
both TEAMS i think got what they needed out of.
(12:15):
It certainly Brought fabers worked out pretty good on The minnesota,
side and you Know Liam ogan with the draft pick
that they also garnered in that. Deal but to, me
that matchup With Drew dowdy And Caroll. Caapriesoff Remember dowdy
was the guy that kind of spouted off during THAT
covid season When caroll just first burst out of the
scene almost downplaying how Good Carolla prisot can. Be AND
(12:37):
i wonder How Drew dowdy feels now That Caroka priesoff
is the highest paid player in the league and he's
turned out to be the player that he certainly. Is
so that is always a matchup to. Watch dowdy's tried
to take some, liberties some cross, checks and some borderline
dirty plays after the whistle against ninety. Seven So i'll
be watching for that tonight when they're matched up, together
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because if The wild get on the Power, pot they're
going to see a lot of each.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Other hey, man you're the absolute. BEST i appreciate you
joining on short. Notice love all you do for, us
love all you do ON, tv and we'll catch up again.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Soon my.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Friend always fun to chat and ortal thank, you thank.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You That's Kevin gorg Fan Duel Sports Network. NORTH i
THINK i hit that. Right you know where it's. At
it's channel eight sixty three if you're Via comcast and
you get to watch him and all his interviewing and
complimentary work as part of THE tv broadcast with The
Minnesota Wild wild hosting The kings At Grand Casino. Arena so,
far Even, brett the difficulty That i've, had LIKE jj,
(13:38):
McCarthy we used to Call Justin JEFFERSON, jj but It's, Jets.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
JETS i still make the.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Mistakes Grand Casino arena kind of feels, fun but we
can't be handing.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Out sevens every. Night, No AND i, HOPE i hope
it's a different affair this.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
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Speaker 5 (17:19):
Here which is the talker that has kept the seasonal
boost alive for basically the entire bye week is who
starts a. Quarterback there's been plenty of opinions either. Way
there's Been Diehard, Carson Wentz, Obos there's Been Mick. Obos
here's the last TIME i heard From kevin. O'Connell it's
been a. Minute here's what he was looking for FROM
(17:39):
jj McCarthy coming out of the.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
BUY i think it's going to be the most critical
part is going to be technique and fundamentals of playing the,
position the way he works so hard to build up
throughout the spring in the, summer getting him back into
kind of the mandatory nature of certain things from a
fundamental standpoint that will only help him perform at a high.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Level, yeah, fundamentals fALS not exactly what you want to.
Hear but it's still there are plenty of, people and
i'd say the majority from What i've, seen are still
in the camp of let's see what the kids, got
let's PLAY.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Jj let's say You, nordo, WELL i would be, Yeah
i'd be in that. Camp. Absolutely we need to.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Know we have to know now that, yes that audio
if we, are indeed we're having footwork conversations and. Things
how much of, that by the, way the fundamentals quote
unquote from the, coach And i'm sure this will come
up tomorrow AT tco and you can continue to elaborate
on it at his own.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Will i'm sure part.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Of it is the amount of pressure that he faced
in those first two. Games how many times he was
put in spots where in that moment he has to
buckle down and maintain those. Fundamentals he's got to throw off,
platform he has to maintain the. Footwork maybe there are
fundamentals in relation to the decision, making courage under fire
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and making the right choice in various, spots and SO
i feel from my, STANDPOINT i feel like the, fundamentals
even though the quote mentioning footwork and, things, HEY i
believe there's probably a broader conversation behind the scenes about
truly what that means in relation TO jj McCarthy getting
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back onto the. FIELD i still believe that it's truly
an issue of health.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
At this particular.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
POINT i was actually listening to The Power Trad Morning
show on my way into the. STUDIO i think it
WAS i think it was liber even talking About, hey
because the Idea, brett you don't have.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
To, worry you don't have to worry about this with
your favorite. TEAM i get.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It everything's everything's beautiful with The green and gl right. Now,
well but we're a team that's hurt and we're a
team that's trying to get.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Healthy so an idea that's been.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Floated, about talked about, is, well if the offensive line
isn't going to be, fresh isn't going to be. Healthy
we got the left tackle on a pitch Count Joe,
huber you Know Joe hubert Playing dart, who by the,
Way i'll respect To, joey played pretty damn well against
The browns and one some pivotal reps that Helped carson
(20:09):
specifically on that, game the go ahead drive and the
touchdown To addison when we needed.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It our, line for the most, part stood.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Up but you Have Brian kelly ON, ir which then
brings you To Michael, jurgens who's. Hurt and then that
brings you To Blake, brandell who is actually terrific at
center for his first his debut at that, spot and
it looks like it would be Probably Blake brandell again
this weekend against The, eagles Into Will, fryes Into justin's
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school or Maybe brian. O'Neil so the, idea, well they're not,
healthy so you. Can't you just can't put the kid
out there because he's going to continue to be completely
under siege all the time and it's going to be a.
Disaster But liieber was talking, about, well there is an
element here because OF jj McCarthy's. Athleticism if THE o
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line persists to be a mass, unit then the escapability
and the athleticism OF jj McCarthy could win out that
that actually you can weave it into a web where
that's actually a pro in the camp of number. Nine,
however that's that brings me to the crux of this
thing with. Health is he? Healthy And i've seen a
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lot of reporting done on it in recent, days or
at least some sort of speculation in some. RESPECTS i
wouldn't say That Tom pellasero of THE Nfl network is a.
SPECULATOR i think he kind of tells the story based
on what is his well researched and well relation chipped
intel brings him that the situation is murky and that
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he may not be one hundred. Percent IF jj McCarthy
is not one hundred, percent then McCarthy's not going to
play this. Weekend and it's just it's kind of a
commitment to the. Plan whether you're down In london and
you need this victory over The, browns but you hold
so steadfast to the recovery plan of A christian de,
areosol you pull your freaking franchise left tackle because he's
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on a pitch count in that. Spot that's a, commitment,
Right AND i just think the commitment of What kevin
O'Connell has said in, total not just that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Clip that clip. Matters i'm just saying there's more to.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It the fact is from step, ONE i believe he's
the one thing he's been definitive and consistent on among
the lack of being definitive and consistent in this conversation
where he has been pretty line level is when he's fully.
Healthy he's coming, back And i'm just curious if the ankle's,
(22:36):
okay because es capability and all of those things is one,
thing but if he re injures that, ankle then that
stepback is even greater and potentially even more detrimental moving
forward in the twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
FIVE i SAW i can't remember who.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
POSTED i think it was SOMEBODY i follow ON x
AND i should remember. THIS i want to give the person,
credit but it just kind of it kind of made
me think as we as we look through this, Here,
Yes Dominique claire is the person that that posted, this
but kind of the idea when we when we look
(23:17):
AT jj, McCarthy we look at the two games he,
played and the more THAT i look at those two,
games the more THAT i factor in some offensive line ailing.
Issues look AT i look at some functional things AROUND
jj McCarthy that lends to the lack of. Production he
also has to be, better by the, way but do
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you just look at? You do you just sum UP
jj McCarthy based on the two games that he has,
played or do you sum up from the time that
you drafted? Him because availability is so pivotal to this.
CONVERSATION i need him one hundred. PERCENT i need him
back on the, field AND i need this kid to
stay on the freaking. Field and it's not. This this
isn't an indictment of him as an. Individual he can't
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help hope that he suffered the injury he did a year,
ago but it, matters it factors, in and it's not his.
Fault he's trying to, scramble find his way to move the,
chains gets, tackled twisted up with the, ankle and he's.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Hurt. Again you can't just kind of you can't just.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Drill down the two without drilling down the seventeen and
a playoff game last year and now a total of
five including three this season that he has missed and
presumably Again i'm just, SPECULATING i do believe unless we
see full participant and we see material movement taking place
(24:38):
this practice, week THAT jj McCarthy is indeed back in
the catbird. Seat it does feel to me at this
stage if the ankle is not one hundred percent that
it will Be carson This sunday at noon against The,
eagles which then dumps and then you jump into, okay
so that would be a sixth. Game so now we're
talking twenty four games and he's been available for two of,
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them and are they going to start them bring them
back on a short week against The. Chargers we want,
rhythm we want full practice. Weeks, well is he potentially
going to miss that? Game and then he gets the
mini by full, WEEK i believe against The lions and
then comes back. Then so we're talking six seven games
potentially this, season and he's only been available for two of,
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them which means twenty four to twenty five games into his,
career he's only been available for two of, them which
is something that you have to factor that. In as
part of the conversation is is we need you, available?
Dude SO i think that that lends to if you're
talking about commitment to a development, plan if his ankle
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is not one hundred, PERCENT i believe That kevin O'Connell
would stick With Carson. Wentz and it feels to me
at this very, moment at nine thirty on A, monday
subject to, CHANGE i think they're actually getting on the field,
today kind of shake it, off have a little Fun
monday afternoon get together post by maybe something'll be gleaned from.
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That although they practice an earnest On, wednesday so it's
not like it's full, pads full activity today unless something
changes at nine point thirty on A, MONDAY i would
have to lean Towards carson being the starter still thousand foot,
view it's LIKE i need the kid back on the.
FIELD i need him, available AND i think the best
route to make that happen and for the best possible
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chance of productivity down the line when he's, back is
to make sure that that ankle is fully. Healthy and
it feels to, ME i think that's how the team
is viewing it at this moment as. Well, now if
he is fully healthy this, week then we're going to
see him against The eagles On, sunday And i'm. Excited
but he needs to be, available which means we need
to fix this ankle thing and needs to be good
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so he can be fundamentally sound based on that audio
and be ready to rock when he is taking the field.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Again vikes. Bites that was long. Winded that was A vike's,
bite that whole thing, Really, yeah that was.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
IT i.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
APOLOGIZE i do have more for, you believe it or.
NOT a lot of the this is tell if you've
heard this one, before you can use. This it's not
about who you, play it's about when you play.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
It.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Ah, yes The eagles look terrible in the last couple of.
Games they blow a double digit lead at home To
denver and Bon nicks and then get. Darted Jackson, dhart
Cam scataboo just dominated start to finish in that.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Game are you playing On?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Sunday are you playing a pissed off and Motivated eagles
or be a vulnerable and Defeated.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Eagles i'm scrambling via scores and.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Odds eagles are two and a half point favorite A
Us Bank stadium for the big nooner coming up This.
Sunday Friday feast is back as, Well Buffalo Wild wings On.
Friday looking forward to. That but the The eagles biggest
enemy is, themselves and it's just it's kind of. Weird
whether it's the it's The. Bravado there's a little bit
(27:58):
of front runner to see the. Coach the Big dom
thing is.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Kind of it's just kind of a. Meme it's a
it's an entire thing in.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Itself BUT i think getting over the, hump you have
to respect in the, end How. Sirianni and maybe it's,
different but similar Where Mike tomlin of The, steelers, NOW
i know a lot Of steelers fans are ready to
run him out of the.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Town they're bored with.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Him he wins The Super bowl following the eight, season
and sure he's never had a losing record as a head.
Coach that's, cool so you know you're consistently in the.
Mix but other than losing to your favorite Team brett
in twenty, ten the team really hasn't been sniffing Super bowl.
Opportunities but this is a team wins it With foles
(28:50):
in twenty seventeen and then they find their way. Back of,
course last season two years, AGO i believe they had
gone as, well lost to The chiefs two or three seasons.
Ago it's kind of every other but this last, year
we know they. Wanted they have the most talented roster
in THE. Nfl But tomlin managing those personalities and keeping
that thing together despite The Antonio brown Like, facebook living
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in a locker room during team, conversation just the weird
oddities that took. Place Martavis bryant couldn't stop smoking, weed
and just other issues that were. Abound siriani has to
be the guy that figures out how to manage those
things as. Well something is off with the offense and they.
Survived going FROM i believe it was from Stike in
(29:39):
To Kellen. MOORE i believe that was the immedia. Transition
there was A sean decig s sighting on, defense BUT
i think it was, awful so he was let. Go
we Know Vic fangio's, there but they were able to
survive in some ways moving on From Shane steiken And
Kellen moore basically had spent half a decade putting together
top Offenses.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Dallas then he goes up To.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Philly but Now Kellen moore is the head coach down
In New orleans and.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Being able to survive those constant.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Changes we talked about, it you, know in a, vacuum
just thinking about the vikings for a. Second zimmer was the,
constant but then whether it was nor of leaving in
six then you Get Pat, shermer then you get In
kobiak Into Kevin, stefanski you, know having to produce at
a high level while constantly changing the, voice even if
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philosophically the offenses were mildly.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Similar, mean looks like.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
WHAT i highlight that, is, gosh, Yeah Matt osciata twenty
five yard. TOUCHDOWN i Think castle would go on to
throw three or four picks that, game playing at the college, stadium.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Seeing what a sophisticated offensive being looks.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Like you talk, About, yeah Man nor of twenty Sixteen
Weird bears, GAME i Think Jordan howard got us for
an absolute just haul on the. Ground it was like
a twenty to three. Game and nor have quit or
have left under mysterious. Circumstances. WEIRD i just think trying
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to survive those. Changes the offense doesn't look right and
Aj brown again the cryptic it's Not Stefan diggs level
crypticness when he's speaking to the, media but it's close
and just. Something but this is a team again that
can just turn on a switch and get. Right and
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this is a team that can just flip a switch
and Suddenly saquon against the team by the way and
both their, losses The vikings who have had massive issues
stopping the. Run saquon could go for two hundred and
three touchdowns On sunday and The vikings.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Lose by double. Digits that could.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Happen but there's, something there's something that's disconnected right now
with specifically with whether It's Jalen hurts and the offensive,
line AND i think is starting to finally after it
feels like just a decade of. BRILLIANCE i think there's
some degradation that's taking place there that might be an
opportunity for The vikings to feast On. Sunday but there's
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just something off about that offense trying to survive those coordinator.
Changes it's A i, mean that's a curse of being,
good Right your team is constantly In Super bowl, contention
and teams are in the coaching carousel and they will
try to poach your. Coordinators AND i just don't know
if it's off to a very good start on this particular.
Season but that Doesn't, again their biggest enemy is. Themselves
(32:36):
they can roll in here and put forty on The
vikings this.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Weekend they can.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Roll in and find new and unique and dumb ways
to lose this game as. Well i'm. CURIOUS i Think
Jalen carter is dealing with. SOMETHING i don't think he
played this last, weekend so there may be a health
component that plays into it as.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
WELL i haven't done a full.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Deep dive of The, eagles AS i will do over
the next couple of days as we continue talking about
it WHEN pa returns. Tomorrow N but their biggest enemy is,
themselves AND i just please don't make this to get right.
Week if they can just be awful and disjointed for
one more, Week vikings get the w and then they
can turn it around and we can revisit this conversation
(33:15):
In january.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
All walmar sure fives.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Bites looking back at the week five injury, report you have, one, two, three, four,
five six players ruled, out a couple of, questionable but
we won't talk about. Them So Dona, Jackson Michael Jordon,
Jurgens Ryan, KELLY jj, McCarthy brian, O'Neil Andrew Van ginkle
out of those players THAT i would take OUT jj because.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
We've talked about.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Him is there a preference on who you would like
to see come back one hundred, percent whether it's the
offensive line, struggling or if it is some of the defensive,
players like we still want to see Cash men still
want to See Van. Ginkle is there a preference on
who you want to see healthy out of the Buy, well.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
The guy THAT i would prefer most to come back
is also the guy That i'm the most worried.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
About That's Van ginkle in this.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Thing and there are some positive things that you can
look at and say in the time now the massive
amount of reps that have increased For Dallas, turner there
are certainly some positive. THINGS i don't think that consistently
has enough pop as a pass, rusher And i've seen
him with that speed and that athleticism make some terrific
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plays specifically to the, boundary some chase, downs a couple of,
TFLs BUT i think you can also kind of run
at him once in a, while and if he can't
get off the, block that's a massive. Problem So Van
ginkle is the guy THAT i would definitely most want
to have. Back just the all the all around game
Of Andrew Van ginkle matters and is vital to this.
Defense SO i would say Him cashman certainly is right up,
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there and that's specific on the defense and just solidifying,
run stopping all of those. Things his entire game matters
to this defense immenseally as.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Well But i'm JUST i Guess Donovan jay.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
From my, standpoint is a home run draft, selection And
i'm excited to see him get more run and continue to,
grow and seeing him back on the field On sunday
against The, eagles if it, happens would be would just
be awesome for the. Kid, again it's just one of
those things we've had conversations about THE gm and the
drafting and all of, that and it has to be.
(35:22):
Better BUT i think he hit a home run With Donovan.
Jackson SO i want to see him healthy with at
least recovered post surgery from this risk, thing AND i
want to see him out. There i'm just excited for
him to continue to. GROW i think we really could.
Have we've potentially stumbled on a guy that's just truly
plug him play for a, decade a left, guard he's
a man, mover he's good in past, pro just a fantastic,
(35:44):
player and it'll be fun to see him back if he.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Is That's Vick.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Spiitz thank you for doing, That, brett and of course
shout out assistant Producer. Kevin we're almost over staffed. Today
it feels weird having we've got all kinds of people
hanging out here.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Today it's. Awesome it's a party nine to.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Noon it won't be a party in some, respects but
we will talk about.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
The Green Bay packers next.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Segment, yeah quarter battle With dave sinecon is around the,
corner catch up with. Them they beat The bungles and
we will discuss all of that as we inch closer
to the ten am. Hour, well we'll bounce back to
The purple With Pete bursts looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
That it's the Fan.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
The whole thing about playing real music nine to noon
is that it has to be cut from the. Podcast
so First i'd like to apologize to The vikings loving
fan base who are listening right. Now BUT i just
need you TO i need you to bear with me
because that audio bit that you just heard will be
removed from the record and will not be.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
PODCAST i had like two more. HIGHLIGHTS i had a laflora.
SOUNDER i was gonna make all montage out of, it all, RIGHT.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
That joining me now is not just the co host
Of in The zone With Trent Tucker saturday. Mornings he
also Does Packer, preview of, course on these airwaves and
with The gophers basically playing in prime time every. Week
now you get to hear it at least at a reasonable.
Hour but then now that you, do AND i believe
you're part of This Brett packer, review is that?
Speaker 7 (37:12):
Accurate, yes that is? Accurate nord, okme good. Morning we've
already posted this week's. Edition it's available on The iHeart.
App just Search Packer preview and you will find it.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
There good, morning, well good, morning and of COURSE i
would JUST i would just forward on it's it's on
the free iHeartRadio, app but just let our sales staff
know that it's also there and they can take a
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Speaker 3 (37:38):
Are, AVAILABLE i believe exactly for, Sure.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Sinekin if your team had lost To Joe flacco twice
in the same, season would you have just canceled packer,
review preview or any of it and just said see
y'all in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Six well, maybe but part of me would have said
it would have been kind of meaty to do packer
review after games like that and the chance to whine
and mull and. Complained but, yeah it. Was it wasn't
gonna win a lot of style, points it wasn't, pretty
but ultimately they got the job.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Done what did you think of was?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
This AND i mean it's just three catches and eighty some,
yards but The Matthew golden was was this a game
where you can look back and you can, Say, okay
draft pick came. ALONG i saw him in a couple
of run block. Situations just the kids got, talent and
he had a couple of nice plays yesterday again since
he would you look at this as kind of that moment, where,
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aha our first round pick is showing a nice.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
PULSE i think, maybe, yes only because two of these
three catches and he had eighty six YARDS i think
on three. Catches, yeah two of them were of the
thirty yard variety on third and nine or third and,
ten and the second one final two and a half
minutes of the, Game flacco has just Hit Jamar chase
for a, touchdown a two point. Conversion it's suddenly a
(38:55):
one score game and a game that it looked like
The packers that dominated For he, said it felt Like
cleveland all over. Again third and, Nine love is being.
Chased he's rolling left and just on, cork say gorgeous
throat To golden who got, loose and thirty seven yards
later there in field goal range and we could kind of.
Exhale so the plays he made were really. Big he's
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also being featured in the running. Game he had a
couple of rushing, Attempts so, yeah it's starting to come.
Together they're starting to get some confidence with. Him he's
never going to be a fantasy, superstar that's not how
The packers, roll but he's got the speed that no
one else on The packers, have While Christian watson's on the,
sideline and it made a difference yesterday with THE.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Qb just do you feel like, this If lafleur had
the ability to call just the perfect, game his ideal,
game do you think it was a little bit like
yesterday where you're able to run the heck out of.
It you got north of a buck fifty on those,
bungles AND i know it was kind of bad. LUCK
i thought that the pick That Jordan love threw was
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tipped or at least it was misdirected, somehow or maybe
it was an awful.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Pass you tell, Me but, overall just not.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Limiting the mistakes or limiting the imperfections or even trying
to limit THE, qb but just run the heck out
of it and then just Let jordan pick his spots
to make.
Speaker 7 (40:13):
Plays, yeah that's the M. O that's The shanahan school
That lafleur comes. From they want to be a run first.
Team and you, Know jacobs had said all last week
that it's always taken him three four games for the
running game to get. Going and you, know he was
sick all, day like sick as a dog. Yesterday he
was miked, up but they couldn't play anything because he
was vomiting all day and he still looked like. Hisself
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and Also vikings understand this. Too when you don't have
your lineman out, there the offense doesn't seem to fire
on all. Cylinders and The packers finally had all five
preferred starters out there yesterday and it made a. Difference
they actually Moved Jordan morgan in to Replace Sean ryan
at right guard and the running attack was better for.
It so that's the M. O run the, ball it
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opens up everything. Else jacob's also caught five balls for
fifty some, yards so he's being featured even more in
the passing. Game but, yes that's the kind of Game
lafleur wants to. Call sprinkle the ball around to a
bunch of different. Receivers AND i Think Green bay scored
every time they touched the ball in the second. Half
they just only had three possessions because the defense Holds
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Cincinnati nordota sixty five yards in the first. HALF i
mean we're talking one first down their first four. Drives
it was. Nothing then they come out in the second
half ten and a half minute drives seventy eight. Yards
suddenly it's ten to. Seven Green bay has the, ball
and we're late in the third. Quarter it just was
so weird that the defense just looks like a different
unit in the second. Half they couldn't Stop cincinnati after,
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halftime and that's a concern because that happened In dallas,
Too so coming out of the, game no concerns about the,
offense but what's going on with the defense and what
happens at halftime that turns them into an entirely different.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Unit, yeah AND i was kind of, curious AND i
want to. ASK i, mean just ten thousand foot. View of,
course from my, PERSPECTIVE i don't dig that. DEEP i
JUST i root for all of your aponents to beat.
You that's kind of HOW i look at. It but
WHEN i see WHEN i see the sixty five yards at,
Half i'm, thinking, okay you, know just, retire just retire
Now Flacco browning at least he throws it to the other,
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team but once in a while he throws it to
his own, two and he provides maybe a little more.
Spark they stuck With, flacco but there was kind of
that massive sea, change and of course you have the
shootout against Against dak and The. Cowboys so it's not
Like i'm not trying to Say halfley's blaunching your. Defense
it's not Like midnight strikes and you turn back into a.
Pumpkin i'm just curious from your perspective if there are
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anything that is standing out to you as to whether
it's the second half or Just dallas And pickens and
company just you couldn't stop them to save your freaking.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Lives what you're.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Seeing that's, maybe you, know maybe a regression of sorts
from the early. Season, wow we're onto something.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Here.
Speaker 7 (42:50):
YEAH i mean the only personnel situation Is DeVante wyatt's,
out and since he went, out second quarter of The
dallas game of the defense is kind of looked. Different
BUT i just think it's the way teams realize they
have to attack The packers. Defense it's kind of like
what The steelers did to The, vikings, right just, yeah
snat the ball To rogers and get rid of the
ball within two, seconds you. Know and that's What dak
did in the second. Half and that's What flaco did
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in the second. HALF i mean he just two steps
ball out and didn't allow the pass rush to get to,
him which is smart because they don't have an offensive,
line so they had to do. That So Green bay
is going to have to figure, out you, know when
teams are attacking you that, way how do you make them,
pay because right now they haven't figured it. OUT i
still think it's a really talented. Defense they haven't made splash,
Plays they only had one, Sack they only have two
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turnovers all, season complete opposite of what they did last.
Year you think those will. Come, YEAH i thought they
would come yesterday they. Didn't so still think it's a talented.
Unit but teams are making adjustments And halflee's going to
have to make some counter.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Moves, YEAH i don't know when it comes to those, turnovers,
MAN i mean that's kind of hitting me hard right
now with The vikings because that was that was a,
trademark tied to top the. League yet last year thirty,
three thirty four, turnovers takeaways something like. That this time,
AROUND i, mean they they get the five spot Against
browning and the and These bungles that you guys just
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saw no takes in the last two, games only one
a piece in the first, two so kind of a
lopstided stat. Nature that speaks to the the inability for
you to rely on those splash. Plays you got to make.
Them and something's off with my team. Too, Man it's
just it's been trouble through the first month and a.
Speaker 7 (44:25):
Half, yeah last year's if your McKinney had picks in
the verse six, games.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Well except for the one Of lambo though that let
That lambo one didn't, Count, Dave.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
Well they counted. It i'm not sure why they counted,
it As you're right that one probably should not have.
Stood but, yeah both of our teams are kind of
head scratching that. Way, YEAH i mean this was a real.
Focus we heard about it all summer With halfley's defense was,
uh punch the ball, out get the ball. Out they
haven't recovered a fumble yet this. Season they have two picks.
Again that might, change but it's a concern because right
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now we don't know About arizona who their quarterback will.
Be but it's going to get a lot tre year
when they start facing quarterbacks that can beat, you like you,
Know dack certainly, could And flacco's savvy enough to beat.
Anybody so, yeah, look they're the favorites right. Now After
week six to come out of THE nfc and represent
them in the Super. Bowl they're the top seed at
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three and one and, one they're the number two seed
in THE, nfc they're atop The. North we should feel
good about all, That but when you're beating a team
that's thirtieth in defense and terrible on offense and it's
still a struggle with two minutes, left it has you
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Worried, yeah that tie, THOUGH i mean that, tie you,
know and you're you're three to one and. One as you,
mentioned you're you're getting an absolute you. Know and every
TIME i every TIME i say, This, dave there's like
Two packers fans that listen all the, time and we,
appreciate love them for, it but they get so mad
and they explain to me there's no way that THE
nfl would actually rig the scheduling system in favor of The.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Packers BUT i, mean talk about this layup With arizona
right around the. Corner can it get any easier for you?
Speaker 1 (45:52):
GUYS i, mean at this, stage your Your packer preview
will be trying to decide who the obscure let's just
call It Dantavian. Wicks he'll be the one After love
throws a pick and the defender immediately freaking fumbles it
and then somebody kicks it into the end. Zone Don Tavian.
Wicks that's how he will get a touchdown this. Weekend
it's going to be that easy against The. Cardinals Well,
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a he injured his Ankle. Sunday i'm not sure he's
going to, play so they have to find another receiver to.
Use in your little, analogy that's.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
FINE i Watched arizona go on the road and Have
indy beat basically in the fourth quarter with a backup
quarterback before losing that. Game arizona is not a punching.
Bag even Without Kyler. Murray they get.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Defense but you're.
Speaker 7 (46:35):
RIGHT i, mean the Pet packers as we sit here,
today are six and a half point favorites to go
on the road and win that. Game But i've Seen
Green bay on the road twice this year And i've been.
Underwhelmed so until they go on the road and stop
a team they should, Beat i'm not going to get
too cocky just.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
Yet i'd be concerned if they trained For Joe. Flacco you,
know Since Kyler murray is, out you have to Play
joe third.
Speaker 7 (46:54):
Time, yeah you cannot rule that. Out that might happen.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
If you go one and two Against. Flack Go oh my,
goodness just shut her. Down that's.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Crazy thanks for your thanks for your, time my, friend
AND i BELIEVE i hope if you're available we can
chat next Next, MONDAY i will be, here look forward to.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
It that's.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Terrific That's Dave. Sineken whether it's in The, zone It's Packer.
Preview they have The Packer review. Podcast he And brett
blakemore breaking down in this case the newest. Episode of,
course they're victory Over flacco and The bungles at Lambeau.
Field hope they lose At arizona this. Weekend couple on the, Road,
yeah couple on the. Road who's it? After who's it
after The? Cards is It?
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Philly and then it's going to Mister rogers neighborhood In.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Poltzburg oh my. Goodness, yeah, wow that's going to be.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Fun and then the next, Week, Hey Carolina, panthers no,
bargain they're, Frisky Rico dowdell running all over people who
who to thunk?
Speaker 3 (47:48):
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Speaker 3 (47:59):
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Speaker 1 (48:02):
Texture back to The vikings And Pete bursett's next as
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a freaking. Answer is It carson or is IT jj
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or at least we'll get a vibe for how the
week's gonna. Go and in the end we're just gonna
have to wait and find some some nuggets of intel via.
Practice but with that, said the hockey, team we are your,
home not just For vikings, Football gophers. Sports i'll get
to the Timber tech. Setlist the head coach a homecoming
w for The. Gophers he's gonna Join Parker fox in
the mix sky You, Mob maroon and. Gold faithful as he,
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is we're your home for a wild hockey as. Well
the good times.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Our play is winding down From. Minnesota they're eighth of
the evening boo him to the right side of set
By russeys.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Playing all the. Nights we like, that but sadly bad
times as.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well freesoft kept a coming boom and he had a
poked away by Coil out in the. Center but race
Here coyle rolls into the left, side Empty netpooon And.
Janner he scores and it's seven For. Columbus for the,
while put a lot of work in this hockey, Game Tom,
reid give them. Credit they did not go, quietly but.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Peez, joe, okay, well seven to four is the final
setting the scene from a ice tunnel standpoint and sideline,
access locker.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Room, interviews all of.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That from the television side of, Things kevin Gorgat Gorga
matic two to one VIA. X how you doing this,
Morning Kevin.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Norder i'm doing. Great Happy monday to. You, yeah a
little bonus tonight with some hockey on A monday, night
and certainly off that five nothing Win saturday night could
have been pretty, spectacular but The Blue jackets had other,
plans and you, know you look back at that game
and it was super entertaining from a fans. Perspective both
teams came, out had a bunch of. CHANCES i looked
(02:00):
at the analytics this morning and the expected goals four
were five to Four. Minunesota that doesn't tell the whole. Story,
yeah you saw a lot of. Positives that top line
continues to. Dominate The power plays off to a good.
Start See william gets on the score sheet and scores
his first Night jel. Goal but the bottom line is
they gave up too much Between gus and some of
the breakdowns, defensively some things to clean up into game
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number three of eighty. Two, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Certainly you, KNOW i was going TO i was going
to ask.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You you, know it's the first game at The Grand Casino,
arena but if we're gonna nickname it the slot, machine
we can't be handing out sevens every, night. Right it's
just kind of kind of a weird vibe to the
first two.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Games Gorgy, well AND i think that's the elephant in the.
Room if you talk to the players throughout training camp
like we, did and you were around last, year you
know they were one of the best road teams in
The National Hockey league last. Year that's the reason they
made the. Postseason and we're so spoiled that we're used
to this, Team nordal being dominant In Saint, paul but
they weren't last. Year and they've all talked about needed
(03:02):
to be a better team on home. Ice in, FACT
i interviewed the, Captain Jared spurgeon a couple hours before
faceoff On, saturday and it's certainly something that is on their,
mind and so that that is a part of the
storyline tonight as. Well you don't want to start owing
two at. Home they've got a daunting five game road
trip that starts In dallas tomorrow, night and they've got
to get back to being a better team on whole.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Ice now with, that with that, said the you mentioned
the power play through, TWO i think they they. Have
they had four in the in that game the other,
night but five in. Total you, know as a hockey,
fan as a wild, fan special teams have kind of
been a talker in a concern at times over the
last decade and a half or. So but the but
(03:45):
what you've seen through too is there is there anything
that jumped out at you and it's like it's early,
on there's eighty two of these. Things no need to
make mountains out of mole. Hills but this is kind
of a positive cool bit That i'm loving into the night's,
game specifically against The.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Kings, well it starts with ninety seven right when When
Caroka priesoff is playing at this. Level and we did
see this last, year AND i think it's important to
Remind wild fans that through The christmas break last, year
the team was eighteen four and four And Caroka prisoff
was the betting favorite in all markets to be THE,
(04:19):
mvp to be The Heart trophy. Winner he drives this hockey,
team and he certainly drives this power. Play and you're
looking at the way he is playing setting the tone
right now on the power. Play they're winning punk, battles
they're getting zone. Time, Certainly Ze volume is a is
a quarterback that's going to make this power play. Better
there's no doubt about. It but you, Know boldie and
(04:40):
capriof to me have such good chemistry and they're so
good in tight space and to maintain, possession to not.
PANIC i, Mean Matt boldie is a. Magician watch him
on the half wall sometimes when there's one or two
players around, him how patient he is with the fuck
using his reach and his. Skill and these guys have been.
(05:00):
Fabulous they're clicking it over forty. PERCENT a power play
can be such a catalyst for good. Things and if
you get off to a fast. Start sometimes you never look.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Back you, KNOW i had never heard in you, Know
Dean evison on the other, bench of, course and you
know that connection to The Minnesota wild And dean all
love and things, aside probably doesn't mind beating his former.
Team but this elviscat net nearly fifty. Saves you Got
marchenko with the hattie last night they came to play
In Saint.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Paul, well you knew With Dean evison that was going
to be the. Case and then you layer that with
the fact That columbus played a winning game At nashville opening.
Night they put thirty nine bucks on the, net they
had a goal called, back they lost a two to
one hockey. Game Dean everson coming, back having a guy
Like Charlie, coyle another former member of The minnesota while
(05:47):
that plays such a significant. Role but Murth leakins was the.
STORY i, mean when you pumped in a franchise high
fifty two shots on, goal you feel like you're likely
going to win a hockey. Game and you Know minnesota
was coming off that five nothing win In Saint. LOUIS
i don't think that score was completely indicative of the
way that game. Went Bill gustafson was so good in
period number. Two and If Saint louis scores in those
(06:10):
first twelve minutes when they had The wild on their
heels and make it a two to one hockey, game
that game probably ends up being quite a. Grinder But
gustafson was brilliant in The wild get up to that
great starting win. Five nothing but the psychology coming into
that game On, saturday certainly you Knew columbus was going
to give you their best and they, did and to their,
credit they made some unbelievable. Plays they've got a carill,
(06:31):
too And marshenko had the hat. Trick he's a six
to three. Guy he can, move he can shoot the,
puck and The wild was just a little bit too
Loose nordo, defensively whether it was off the rush or
in the. Zone and CERTAINLY i think if you're going
to have success not only tonight against The, kings who
are very, stingy but on this daunting road, trip it's
(06:52):
the next two. WEEKS i know it's, early and again
we're just getting started that these next two weeks are
going to be a.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Challenge how Is How's how's tarisenk look through?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Too you, know and he doesn't have to score them
all right, away but just through a couple of, games
just trying to think what does a career resurgence or
a boost to the elder statesman's career look like wearing our?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Colors what did you think of lad out?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
There, well certainly he's one of the Players i'm focusing
in on early in the season to see what kind
of start he gets out. To and you, know we
had a chance to talk To John hines over the
weekend and kind of set his, expectations And hines has
seen a thing or two and he thinks there's no
doubt this guy can score twenty to twenty, five which
would be a huge shot in the arm For. MINNESOTA
i thought he was just okay In Saint, louis going
(07:35):
back to where he won That Stanley cup for the first.
TIME i thought he might have been just a little
bit off in that. GAME i thought he was significantly
better On saturday. Night his puck possession was, good certainly
a part of that power play and a veteran that
brings that type of poise to that. Situation and SO
i like the way he played On. Saturday and and
they're going to need this guy with With Matt zucrelo
(07:58):
out now for the likely six to eight weeks of the,
season you've got to, have you, know more than one
line pumping doles in and that second line That tarasenko
is a big part of with Jul rics and k
by his. SIDE i still think the other side is
a work in. Progress felino has been, solid But i'm
not sure that's a long term. Solution But, tarasenko if
(08:20):
you're a wild, fan is certainly a player here in
the early part of the season you want to focus
in on because he can be a bit of AN x. Factor,
nord do you know what you're gonna get from that
top line almost every single? Night but they can't be
asked to always carry the offensive. Workload they've got to
have supplementary, scoring and this is a guy he can
score twenty to twenty. Five it could be a real
(08:41):
key part of.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
That, no that's that's.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Sweet that's That's Kevin Gorg by the, way At Gorgo
mattic two to one VIA x you'll see him in
the entire Fan Duel Sports North network crew puck drop
shortly after seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Tonight if you are so. Inclined you can hear the radio.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Version of it as, well of, course With joe And
Tom reid six forty Five Fallness, FESTIVAL i, believe and
then seven ishpuck drop again right here on the radio
side of, Things, HUNTER i believe It's Hunter hate Or
heighte who made his Debut. Hat it Is, hate, okay
So Hunter hate and he you, know he's making his debut.
PLAYS i mean he probably played like seven or eight
(09:19):
minutes in that, game but all the, same just excited
About Nico sterm coming in all those face.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Offs that's a position to.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Need now you hear With surgery and you speak Of zucarello's,
Injury Nico storm feels like a similar. Timeline are we
just you know early on it's that kind of speaks
to what you're talking, about not just needing guys Like
Tara senko to step up and score, goals but just
thinking about depth of of what this looks like For
heinzy in the short.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Term, Yeah Hunter hat had a terrific season last. Year you, know,
REMEMBER i think everybody knows that The wild had a
ton of. Injuries, yeah, well with those injuries come a
lot of call ups from The Iowa, Wild so it
was a depleted run user on The American league, side
and this kid scored twenty goals sixty seven, games a
lot of times having to do it all by. Himself
(10:08):
he's got, speed he's got rink, savvy he's got certain,
skill and he had an outstanding training, camp and you,
know it's. DIFFICULT i felt bad For hunter and his
linemates On saturday because when you have a game Like,
saturday with all those special team sequences on both sides
of the, ledger that bench has to get shortened. Up
and they were the victims of. That when they, PLAYED
(10:29):
i thought they brought some good, jews some good. Energy
they're not going to be asked to score a lot of.
Goals what they're going to be asked to do is
bring some energy and go out there and play a responsible,
game and so far they've done. THAT i think we're
going to See danilla year off at some, point whether
it's tonight or. Tomorrow they want to get him a
chance in that same. SPOT i like the youth that
they're trying to develop and let them do that slowly
(10:51):
at that, position and not a lot of silver lines
when you lose a guy Like Nico. Sturm he's really
going to be. MISSED i was so excited about that
signing Because minnesota in the face off circle on the
penalty kill needed A joel Like. Nicost we're going to
get him. Back it's going to be Like, zuperrello as you,
mentioned six to eight. Weeks SO i think The wild
have a chance to really take off in the second.
(11:12):
Half but in the, meantime the sober lining is we
get to See hunter and we get to See daniella
and see what they can.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Do absolutely kings in town tonight for this. One you
get to See Darcy. Kent do you fall in love
with names at? All gorgy Like, Darcy, Kemper Kevin fialas In.
TOWN i don't know How kopatar is still doing it
at thirty, eight but he is a few dimes so.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Far through three.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Games they grind their way to a shootout win against Against,
vegas but they take that. LA i think you mentioned
it at the top that they struggled Against shiflee and
The jets the other.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Night what you do you.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Get excited about kind of seeing some of those familiar
faces and just kind of playing the matchup.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Game in front of these. Contests, WELL i like when.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
The kings are always a fun. Watch and WHEN i
think of, NICKNAMES i remember When bruce Blu row was
our head, coach he Called Darcy Kemper pumps AND i
used to hit a big chuffle out of. That Kevin
fiala is always a player to. Watch thirty five goals last.
Year you know that was going back to that. Trade
both TEAMS i think got what they needed out of.
(12:15):
It certainly Brought fabers worked out pretty good on The minnesota,
side and you Know Liam ogan with the draft pick
that they also garnered in that. Deal but to, me
that matchup With Drew dowdy And Caroll. Caapriesoff Remember dowdy
was the guy that kind of spouted off during THAT
covid season When caroll just first burst out of the
scene almost downplaying how Good Carolla prisot can. Be AND
(12:37):
i wonder How Drew dowdy feels now That Caroka priesoff
is the highest paid player in the league and he's
turned out to be the player that he certainly. Is
so that is always a matchup to. Watch dowdy's tried
to take some, liberties some cross, checks and some borderline
dirty plays after the whistle against ninety. Seven So i'll
be watching for that tonight when they're matched up, together
(12:59):
because if The wild get on the Power, pot they're
going to see a lot of each.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Other hey, man you're the absolute. BEST i appreciate you
joining on short. Notice love all you do for, us
love all you do ON, tv and we'll catch up again.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Soon my.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Friend always fun to chat and ortal thank, you thank.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You That's Kevin gorg Fan Duel Sports Network. NORTH i
THINK i hit that. Right you know where it's. At
it's channel eight sixty three if you're Via comcast and
you get to watch him and all his interviewing and
complimentary work as part of THE tv broadcast with The
Minnesota Wild wild hosting The kings At Grand Casino. Arena so,
far Even, brett the difficulty That i've, had LIKE jj,
(13:38):
McCarthy we used to Call Justin JEFFERSON, jj but It's, Jets.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
JETS i still make the.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Mistakes Grand Casino arena kind of feels, fun but we
can't be handing.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Out sevens every. Night, No AND i, HOPE i hope
it's a different affair this.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
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Speaker 5 (17:19):
Here which is the talker that has kept the seasonal
boost alive for basically the entire bye week is who
starts a. Quarterback there's been plenty of opinions either. Way
there's Been Diehard, Carson Wentz, Obos there's Been Mick. Obos
here's the last TIME i heard From kevin. O'Connell it's
been a. Minute here's what he was looking for FROM
(17:39):
jj McCarthy coming out of the.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
BUY i think it's going to be the most critical
part is going to be technique and fundamentals of playing the,
position the way he works so hard to build up
throughout the spring in the, summer getting him back into
kind of the mandatory nature of certain things from a
fundamental standpoint that will only help him perform at a high.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Level, yeah, fundamentals fALS not exactly what you want to.
Hear but it's still there are plenty of, people and
i'd say the majority from What i've, seen are still
in the camp of let's see what the kids, got
let's PLAY.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Jj let's say You, nordo, WELL i would be, Yeah
i'd be in that. Camp. Absolutely we need to.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Know we have to know now that, yes that audio
if we, are indeed we're having footwork conversations and. Things
how much of, that by the, way the fundamentals quote
unquote from the, coach And i'm sure this will come
up tomorrow AT tco and you can continue to elaborate
on it at his own.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Will i'm sure part.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Of it is the amount of pressure that he faced
in those first two. Games how many times he was
put in spots where in that moment he has to
buckle down and maintain those. Fundamentals he's got to throw off,
platform he has to maintain the. Footwork maybe there are
fundamentals in relation to the decision, making courage under fire
(18:58):
and making the right choice in various, spots and SO
i feel from my, STANDPOINT i feel like the, fundamentals
even though the quote mentioning footwork and, things, HEY i
believe there's probably a broader conversation behind the scenes about
truly what that means in relation TO jj McCarthy getting
(19:19):
back onto the. FIELD i still believe that it's truly
an issue of health.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
At this particular.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
POINT i was actually listening to The Power Trad Morning
show on my way into the. STUDIO i think it
WAS i think it was liber even talking About, hey
because the Idea, brett you don't have.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
To, worry you don't have to worry about this with
your favorite. TEAM i get.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It everything's everything's beautiful with The green and gl right. Now,
well but we're a team that's hurt and we're a
team that's trying to get.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Healthy so an idea that's been.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Floated, about talked about, is, well if the offensive line
isn't going to be, fresh isn't going to be. Healthy
we got the left tackle on a pitch Count Joe,
huber you Know Joe hubert Playing dart, who by the,
Way i'll respect To, joey played pretty damn well against
The browns and one some pivotal reps that Helped carson
(20:09):
specifically on that, game the go ahead drive and the
touchdown To addison when we needed.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It our, line for the most, part stood.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Up but you Have Brian kelly ON, ir which then
brings you To Michael, jurgens who's. Hurt and then that
brings you To Blake, brandell who is actually terrific at
center for his first his debut at that, spot and
it looks like it would be Probably Blake brandell again
this weekend against The, eagles Into Will, fryes Into justin's
(20:37):
school or Maybe brian. O'Neil so the, idea, well they're not,
healthy so you. Can't you just can't put the kid
out there because he's going to continue to be completely
under siege all the time and it's going to be a.
Disaster But liieber was talking, about, well there is an
element here because OF jj McCarthy's. Athleticism if THE o
(20:58):
line persists to be a mass, unit then the escapability
and the athleticism OF jj McCarthy could win out that
that actually you can weave it into a web where
that's actually a pro in the camp of number. Nine,
however that's that brings me to the crux of this
thing with. Health is he? Healthy And i've seen a
(21:19):
lot of reporting done on it in recent, days or
at least some sort of speculation in some. RESPECTS i
wouldn't say That Tom pellasero of THE Nfl network is a.
SPECULATOR i think he kind of tells the story based
on what is his well researched and well relation chipped
intel brings him that the situation is murky and that
(21:40):
he may not be one hundred. Percent IF jj McCarthy
is not one hundred, percent then McCarthy's not going to
play this. Weekend and it's just it's kind of a
commitment to the. Plan whether you're down In london and
you need this victory over The, browns but you hold
so steadfast to the recovery plan of A christian de,
areosol you pull your freaking franchise left tackle because he's
(22:03):
on a pitch count in that. Spot that's a, commitment,
Right AND i just think the commitment of What kevin
O'Connell has said in, total not just that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Clip that clip. Matters i'm just saying there's more to.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It the fact is from step, ONE i believe he's
the one thing he's been definitive and consistent on among
the lack of being definitive and consistent in this conversation
where he has been pretty line level is when he's fully.
Healthy he's coming, back And i'm just curious if the ankle's,
(22:36):
okay because es capability and all of those things is one,
thing but if he re injures that, ankle then that
stepback is even greater and potentially even more detrimental moving
forward in the twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
FIVE i SAW i can't remember who.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
POSTED i think it was SOMEBODY i follow ON x
AND i should remember. THIS i want to give the person,
credit but it just kind of it kind of made
me think as we as we look through this, Here,
Yes Dominique claire is the person that that posted, this
but kind of the idea when we when we look
(23:17):
AT jj, McCarthy we look at the two games he,
played and the more THAT i look at those two,
games the more THAT i factor in some offensive line ailing.
Issues look AT i look at some functional things AROUND
jj McCarthy that lends to the lack of. Production he
also has to be, better by the, way but do
(23:37):
you just look at? You do you just sum UP
jj McCarthy based on the two games that he has,
played or do you sum up from the time that
you drafted? Him because availability is so pivotal to this.
CONVERSATION i need him one hundred. PERCENT i need him
back on the, field AND i need this kid to
stay on the freaking. Field and it's not. This this
isn't an indictment of him as an. Individual he can't
(23:59):
help hope that he suffered the injury he did a year,
ago but it, matters it factors, in and it's not his.
Fault he's trying to, scramble find his way to move the,
chains gets, tackled twisted up with the, ankle and he's.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Hurt. Again you can't just kind of you can't just.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Drill down the two without drilling down the seventeen and
a playoff game last year and now a total of
five including three this season that he has missed and
presumably Again i'm just, SPECULATING i do believe unless we
see full participant and we see material movement taking place
(24:38):
this practice, week THAT jj McCarthy is indeed back in
the catbird. Seat it does feel to me at this
stage if the ankle is not one hundred percent that
it will Be carson This sunday at noon against The,
eagles which then dumps and then you jump into, okay
so that would be a sixth. Game so now we're
talking twenty four games and he's been available for two of,
(24:58):
them and are they going to start them bring them
back on a short week against The. Chargers we want,
rhythm we want full practice. Weeks, well is he potentially
going to miss that? Game and then he gets the
mini by full, WEEK i believe against The lions and
then comes back. Then so we're talking six seven games
potentially this, season and he's only been available for two of,
(25:19):
them which means twenty four to twenty five games into his,
career he's only been available for two of, them which
is something that you have to factor that. In as
part of the conversation is is we need you, available?
Dude SO i think that that lends to if you're
talking about commitment to a development, plan if his ankle
(25:41):
is not one hundred, PERCENT i believe That kevin O'Connell
would stick With Carson. Wentz and it feels to me
at this very, moment at nine thirty on A, monday
subject to, CHANGE i think they're actually getting on the field,
today kind of shake it, off have a little Fun
monday afternoon get together post by maybe something'll be gleaned from.
(26:01):
That although they practice an earnest On, wednesday so it's
not like it's full, pads full activity today unless something
changes at nine point thirty on A, MONDAY i would
have to lean Towards carson being the starter still thousand foot,
view it's LIKE i need the kid back on the.
FIELD i need him, available AND i think the best
route to make that happen and for the best possible
(26:23):
chance of productivity down the line when he's, back is
to make sure that that ankle is fully. Healthy and
it feels to, ME i think that's how the team
is viewing it at this moment as. Well, now if
he is fully healthy this, week then we're going to
see him against The eagles On, sunday And i'm. Excited
but he needs to be, available which means we need
to fix this ankle thing and needs to be good
(26:43):
so he can be fundamentally sound based on that audio
and be ready to rock when he is taking the field.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Again vikes. Bites that was long. Winded that was A vike's,
bite that whole thing, Really, yeah that was.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
IT i.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
APOLOGIZE i do have more for, you believe it or.
NOT a lot of the this is tell if you've
heard this one, before you can use. This it's not
about who you, play it's about when you play.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
It.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Ah, yes The eagles look terrible in the last couple of.
Games they blow a double digit lead at home To
denver and Bon nicks and then get. Darted Jackson, dhart
Cam scataboo just dominated start to finish in that.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Game are you playing On?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Sunday are you playing a pissed off and Motivated eagles
or be a vulnerable and Defeated.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Eagles i'm scrambling via scores and.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Odds eagles are two and a half point favorite A
Us Bank stadium for the big nooner coming up This.
Sunday Friday feast is back as, Well Buffalo Wild wings On.
Friday looking forward to. That but the The eagles biggest
enemy is, themselves and it's just it's kind of. Weird
whether it's the it's The. Bravado there's a little bit
(27:58):
of front runner to see the. Coach the Big dom
thing is.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Kind of it's just kind of a. Meme it's a
it's an entire thing in.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Itself BUT i think getting over the, hump you have
to respect in the, end How. Sirianni and maybe it's,
different but similar Where Mike tomlin of The, steelers, NOW
i know a lot Of steelers fans are ready to
run him out of the.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Town they're bored with.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Him he wins The Super bowl following the eight, season
and sure he's never had a losing record as a head.
Coach that's, cool so you know you're consistently in the.
Mix but other than losing to your favorite Team brett
in twenty, ten the team really hasn't been sniffing Super bowl.
Opportunities but this is a team wins it With foles
(28:50):
in twenty seventeen and then they find their way. Back of,
course last season two years, AGO i believe they had
gone as, well lost to The chiefs two or three seasons.
Ago it's kind of every other but this last, year
we know they. Wanted they have the most talented roster
in THE. Nfl But tomlin managing those personalities and keeping
that thing together despite The Antonio brown Like, facebook living
(29:15):
in a locker room during team, conversation just the weird
oddities that took. Place Martavis bryant couldn't stop smoking, weed
and just other issues that were. Abound siriani has to
be the guy that figures out how to manage those
things as. Well something is off with the offense and they.
Survived going FROM i believe it was from Stike in
(29:39):
To Kellen. MOORE i believe that was the immedia. Transition
there was A sean decig s sighting on, defense BUT
i think it was, awful so he was let. Go
we Know Vic fangio's, there but they were able to
survive in some ways moving on From Shane steiken And
Kellen moore basically had spent half a decade putting together
top Offenses.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Dallas then he goes up To.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Philly but Now Kellen moore is the head coach down
In New orleans and.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Being able to survive those constant.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Changes we talked about, it you, know in a, vacuum
just thinking about the vikings for a. Second zimmer was the,
constant but then whether it was nor of leaving in
six then you Get Pat, shermer then you get In
kobiak Into Kevin, stefanski you, know having to produce at
a high level while constantly changing the, voice even if
(30:31):
philosophically the offenses were mildly.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Similar, mean looks like.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
WHAT i highlight that, is, gosh, Yeah Matt osciata twenty
five yard. TOUCHDOWN i Think castle would go on to
throw three or four picks that, game playing at the college, stadium.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Seeing what a sophisticated offensive being looks.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Like you talk, About, yeah Man nor of twenty Sixteen
Weird bears, GAME i Think Jordan howard got us for
an absolute just haul on the. Ground it was like
a twenty to three. Game and nor have quit or
have left under mysterious. Circumstances. WEIRD i just think trying
(31:12):
to survive those. Changes the offense doesn't look right and
Aj brown again the cryptic it's Not Stefan diggs level
crypticness when he's speaking to the, media but it's close
and just. Something but this is a team again that
can just turn on a switch and get. Right and
(31:33):
this is a team that can just flip a switch
and Suddenly saquon against the team by the way and
both their, losses The vikings who have had massive issues
stopping the. Run saquon could go for two hundred and
three touchdowns On sunday and The vikings.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Lose by double. Digits that could.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Happen but there's, something there's something that's disconnected right now
with specifically with whether It's Jalen hurts and the offensive,
line AND i think is starting to finally after it
feels like just a decade of. BRILLIANCE i think there's
some degradation that's taking place there that might be an
opportunity for The vikings to feast On. Sunday but there's
(32:13):
just something off about that offense trying to survive those coordinator.
Changes it's A i, mean that's a curse of being,
good Right your team is constantly In Super bowl, contention
and teams are in the coaching carousel and they will
try to poach your. Coordinators AND i just don't know
if it's off to a very good start on this particular.
Season but that Doesn't, again their biggest enemy is. Themselves
(32:36):
they can roll in here and put forty on The
vikings this.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Weekend they can.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Roll in and find new and unique and dumb ways
to lose this game as. Well i'm. CURIOUS i Think
Jalen carter is dealing with. SOMETHING i don't think he
played this last, weekend so there may be a health
component that plays into it as.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
WELL i haven't done a full.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Deep dive of The, eagles AS i will do over
the next couple of days as we continue talking about
it WHEN pa returns. Tomorrow N but their biggest enemy is,
themselves AND i just please don't make this to get right.
Week if they can just be awful and disjointed for
one more, Week vikings get the w and then they
can turn it around and we can revisit this conversation
(33:15):
In january.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
All walmar sure fives.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Bites looking back at the week five injury, report you have, one, two, three, four,
five six players ruled, out a couple of, questionable but
we won't talk about. Them So Dona, Jackson Michael Jordon,
Jurgens Ryan, KELLY jj, McCarthy brian, O'Neil Andrew Van ginkle
out of those players THAT i would take OUT jj because.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
We've talked about.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Him is there a preference on who you would like
to see come back one hundred, percent whether it's the
offensive line, struggling or if it is some of the defensive,
players like we still want to see Cash men still
want to See Van. Ginkle is there a preference on
who you want to see healthy out of the Buy, well.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
The guy THAT i would prefer most to come back
is also the guy That i'm the most worried.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
About That's Van ginkle in this.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Thing and there are some positive things that you can
look at and say in the time now the massive
amount of reps that have increased For Dallas, turner there
are certainly some positive. THINGS i don't think that consistently
has enough pop as a pass, rusher And i've seen
him with that speed and that athleticism make some terrific
(34:22):
plays specifically to the, boundary some chase, downs a couple of,
TFLs BUT i think you can also kind of run
at him once in a, while and if he can't
get off the, block that's a massive. Problem So Van
ginkle is the guy THAT i would definitely most want
to have. Back just the all the all around game
Of Andrew Van ginkle matters and is vital to this.
Defense SO i would say Him cashman certainly is right up,
(34:44):
there and that's specific on the defense and just solidifying,
run stopping all of those. Things his entire game matters
to this defense immenseally as.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Well But i'm JUST i Guess Donovan jay.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
From my, standpoint is a home run draft, selection And
i'm excited to see him get more run and continue to,
grow and seeing him back on the field On sunday
against The, eagles if it, happens would be would just
be awesome for the. Kid, again it's just one of
those things we've had conversations about THE gm and the
drafting and all of, that and it has to be.
(35:22):
Better BUT i think he hit a home run With Donovan.
Jackson SO i want to see him healthy with at
least recovered post surgery from this risk, thing AND i
want to see him out. There i'm just excited for
him to continue to. GROW i think we really could.
Have we've potentially stumbled on a guy that's just truly
plug him play for a, decade a left, guard he's
a man, mover he's good in past, pro just a fantastic,
(35:44):
player and it'll be fun to see him back if he.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Is That's Vick.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Spiitz thank you for doing, That, brett and of course
shout out assistant Producer. Kevin we're almost over staffed. Today
it feels weird having we've got all kinds of people
hanging out here.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Today it's. Awesome it's a party nine to.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Noon it won't be a party in some, respects but
we will talk about.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
The Green Bay packers next.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Segment, yeah quarter battle With dave sinecon is around the,
corner catch up with. Them they beat The bungles and
we will discuss all of that as we inch closer
to the ten am. Hour, well we'll bounce back to
The purple With Pete bursts looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
That it's the Fan.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
The whole thing about playing real music nine to noon
is that it has to be cut from the. Podcast
so First i'd like to apologize to The vikings loving
fan base who are listening right. Now BUT i just
need you TO i need you to bear with me
because that audio bit that you just heard will be
removed from the record and will not be.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
PODCAST i had like two more. HIGHLIGHTS i had a laflora.
SOUNDER i was gonna make all montage out of, it all, RIGHT.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
That joining me now is not just the co host
Of in The zone With Trent Tucker saturday. Mornings he
also Does Packer, preview of, course on these airwaves and
with The gophers basically playing in prime time every. Week
now you get to hear it at least at a reasonable.
Hour but then now that you, do AND i believe
you're part of This Brett packer, review is that?
Speaker 7 (37:12):
Accurate, yes that is? Accurate nord, okme good. Morning we've
already posted this week's. Edition it's available on The iHeart.
App just Search Packer preview and you will find it.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
There good, morning, well good, morning and of COURSE i
would JUST i would just forward on it's it's on
the free iHeartRadio, app but just let our sales staff
know that it's also there and they can take a
peek at it if so inclined sponsors sponsorships.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Are, AVAILABLE i believe exactly for, Sure.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Sinekin if your team had lost To Joe flacco twice
in the same, season would you have just canceled packer,
review preview or any of it and just said see
y'all in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Six well, maybe but part of me would have said
it would have been kind of meaty to do packer
review after games like that and the chance to whine
and mull and. Complained but, yeah it. Was it wasn't
gonna win a lot of style, points it wasn't, pretty
but ultimately they got the job.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Done what did you think of was?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
This AND i mean it's just three catches and eighty some,
yards but The Matthew golden was was this a game
where you can look back and you can, Say, okay
draft pick came. ALONG i saw him in a couple
of run block. Situations just the kids got, talent and
he had a couple of nice plays yesterday again since
he would you look at this as kind of that moment, where,
(38:31):
aha our first round pick is showing a nice.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
PULSE i think, maybe, yes only because two of these
three catches and he had eighty six YARDS i think
on three. Catches, yeah two of them were of the
thirty yard variety on third and nine or third and,
ten and the second one final two and a half
minutes of the, Game flacco has just Hit Jamar chase
for a, touchdown a two point. Conversion it's suddenly a
(38:55):
one score game and a game that it looked like
The packers that dominated For he, said it felt Like
cleveland all over. Again third and, Nine love is being.
Chased he's rolling left and just on, cork say gorgeous
throat To golden who got, loose and thirty seven yards
later there in field goal range and we could kind of.
Exhale so the plays he made were really. Big he's
(39:16):
also being featured in the running. Game he had a
couple of rushing, Attempts so, yeah it's starting to come.
Together they're starting to get some confidence with. Him he's
never going to be a fantasy, superstar that's not how
The packers, roll but he's got the speed that no
one else on The packers, have While Christian watson's on the,
sideline and it made a difference yesterday with THE.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Qb just do you feel like, this If lafleur had
the ability to call just the perfect, game his ideal,
game do you think it was a little bit like
yesterday where you're able to run the heck out of.
It you got north of a buck fifty on those,
bungles AND i know it was kind of bad. LUCK
i thought that the pick That Jordan love threw was
(39:57):
tipped or at least it was misdirected, somehow or maybe
it was an awful.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Pass you tell, Me but, overall just not.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Limiting the mistakes or limiting the imperfections or even trying
to limit THE, qb but just run the heck out
of it and then just Let jordan pick his spots
to make.
Speaker 7 (40:13):
Plays, yeah that's the M. O that's The shanahan school
That lafleur comes. From they want to be a run first.
Team and you, Know jacobs had said all last week
that it's always taken him three four games for the
running game to get. Going and you, know he was
sick all, day like sick as a dog. Yesterday he
was miked, up but they couldn't play anything because he
was vomiting all day and he still looked like. Hisself
(40:35):
and Also vikings understand this. Too when you don't have
your lineman out, there the offense doesn't seem to fire
on all. Cylinders and The packers finally had all five
preferred starters out there yesterday and it made a. Difference
they actually Moved Jordan morgan in to Replace Sean ryan
at right guard and the running attack was better for.
It so that's the M. O run the, ball it
(40:56):
opens up everything. Else jacob's also caught five balls for
fifty some, yards so he's being featured even more in
the passing. Game but, yes that's the kind of Game
lafleur wants to. Call sprinkle the ball around to a
bunch of different. Receivers AND i Think Green bay scored
every time they touched the ball in the second. Half
they just only had three possessions because the defense Holds
(41:17):
Cincinnati nordota sixty five yards in the first. HALF i
mean we're talking one first down their first four. Drives
it was. Nothing then they come out in the second
half ten and a half minute drives seventy eight. Yards
suddenly it's ten to. Seven Green bay has the, ball
and we're late in the third. Quarter it just was
so weird that the defense just looks like a different
unit in the second. Half they couldn't Stop cincinnati after,
(41:39):
halftime and that's a concern because that happened In dallas,
Too so coming out of the, game no concerns about the,
offense but what's going on with the defense and what
happens at halftime that turns them into an entirely different.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Unit, yeah AND i was kind of, curious AND i
want to. ASK i, mean just ten thousand foot. View of,
course from my, PERSPECTIVE i don't dig that. DEEP i
JUST i root for all of your aponents to beat.
You that's kind of HOW i look at. It but
WHEN i see WHEN i see the sixty five yards at,
Half i'm, thinking, okay you, know just, retire just retire
Now Flacco browning at least he throws it to the other,
(42:11):
team but once in a while he throws it to
his own, two and he provides maybe a little more.
Spark they stuck With, flacco but there was kind of
that massive sea, change and of course you have the
shootout against Against dak and The. Cowboys so it's not
Like i'm not trying to Say halfley's blaunching your. Defense
it's not Like midnight strikes and you turn back into a.
Pumpkin i'm just curious from your perspective if there are
(42:31):
anything that is standing out to you as to whether
it's the second half or Just dallas And pickens and
company just you couldn't stop them to save your freaking.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Lives what you're.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Seeing that's, maybe you, know maybe a regression of sorts
from the early. Season, wow we're onto something.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Here.
Speaker 7 (42:50):
YEAH i mean the only personnel situation Is DeVante wyatt's,
out and since he went, out second quarter of The
dallas game of the defense is kind of looked. Different
BUT i just think it's the way teams realize they
have to attack The packers. Defense it's kind of like
what The steelers did to The, vikings, right just, yeah
snat the ball To rogers and get rid of the
ball within two, seconds you. Know and that's What dak
did in the second. Half and that's What flaco did
(43:11):
in the second. HALF i mean he just two steps
ball out and didn't allow the pass rush to get to,
him which is smart because they don't have an offensive,
line so they had to do. That So Green bay
is going to have to figure, out you, know when
teams are attacking you that, way how do you make them,
pay because right now they haven't figured it. OUT i
still think it's a really talented. Defense they haven't made splash,
Plays they only had one, Sack they only have two
(43:34):
turnovers all, season complete opposite of what they did last.
Year you think those will. Come, YEAH i thought they
would come yesterday they. Didn't so still think it's a talented.
Unit but teams are making adjustments And halflee's going to
have to make some counter.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Moves, YEAH i don't know when it comes to those, turnovers,
MAN i mean that's kind of hitting me hard right
now with The vikings because that was that was a,
trademark tied to top the. League yet last year thirty,
three thirty four, turnovers takeaways something like. That this time,
AROUND i, mean they they get the five spot Against
browning and the and These bungles that you guys just
(44:07):
saw no takes in the last two, games only one
a piece in the first, two so kind of a
lopstided stat. Nature that speaks to the the inability for
you to rely on those splash. Plays you got to make.
Them and something's off with my team. Too, Man it's
just it's been trouble through the first month and a.
Speaker 7 (44:25):
Half, yeah last year's if your McKinney had picks in
the verse six, games.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Well except for the one Of lambo though that let
That lambo one didn't, Count, Dave.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
Well they counted. It i'm not sure why they counted,
it As you're right that one probably should not have.
Stood but, yeah both of our teams are kind of
head scratching that. Way, YEAH i mean this was a real.
Focus we heard about it all summer With halfley's defense was,
uh punch the ball, out get the ball. Out they
haven't recovered a fumble yet this. Season they have two picks.
Again that might, change but it's a concern because right
(44:55):
now we don't know About arizona who their quarterback will.
Be but it's going to get a lot tre year
when they start facing quarterbacks that can beat, you like you,
Know dack certainly, could And flacco's savvy enough to beat.
Anybody so, yeah, look they're the favorites right. Now After
week six to come out of THE nfc and represent
them in the Super. Bowl they're the top seed at
(45:15):
three and one and, one they're the number two seed
in THE, nfc they're atop The. North we should feel
good about all, That but when you're beating a team
that's thirtieth in defense and terrible on offense and it's
still a struggle with two minutes, left it has you
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Worried, yeah that tie, THOUGH i mean that, tie you,
know and you're you're three to one and. One as you,
mentioned you're you're getting an absolute you. Know and every
TIME i every TIME i say, This, dave there's like
Two packers fans that listen all the, time and we,
appreciate love them for, it but they get so mad
and they explain to me there's no way that THE
nfl would actually rig the scheduling system in favor of The.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Packers BUT i, mean talk about this layup With arizona
right around the. Corner can it get any easier for you?
Speaker 1 (45:52):
GUYS i, mean at this, stage your Your packer preview
will be trying to decide who the obscure let's just
call It Dantavian. Wicks he'll be the one After love
throws a pick and the defender immediately freaking fumbles it
and then somebody kicks it into the end. Zone Don Tavian.
Wicks that's how he will get a touchdown this. Weekend
it's going to be that easy against The. Cardinals Well,
(46:14):
a he injured his Ankle. Sunday i'm not sure he's
going to, play so they have to find another receiver to.
Use in your little, analogy that's.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
FINE i Watched arizona go on the road and Have
indy beat basically in the fourth quarter with a backup
quarterback before losing that. Game arizona is not a punching.
Bag even Without Kyler. Murray they get.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Defense but you're.
Speaker 7 (46:35):
RIGHT i, mean the Pet packers as we sit here,
today are six and a half point favorites to go
on the road and win that. Game But i've Seen
Green bay on the road twice this year And i've been.
Underwhelmed so until they go on the road and stop
a team they should, Beat i'm not going to get
too cocky just.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
Yet i'd be concerned if they trained For Joe. Flacco you,
know Since Kyler murray is, out you have to Play
joe third.
Speaker 7 (46:54):
Time, yeah you cannot rule that. Out that might happen.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
If you go one and two Against. Flack Go oh my,
goodness just shut her. Down that's.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Crazy thanks for your thanks for your, time my, friend
AND i BELIEVE i hope if you're available we can
chat next Next, MONDAY i will be, here look forward to.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
It that's.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Terrific That's Dave. Sineken whether it's in The, zone It's Packer.
Preview they have The Packer review. Podcast he And brett
blakemore breaking down in this case the newest. Episode of,
course they're victory Over flacco and The bungles at Lambeau.
Field hope they lose At arizona this. Weekend couple on the, Road,
yeah couple on the. Road who's it? After who's it
after The? Cards is It?
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Philly and then it's going to Mister rogers neighborhood In.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Poltzburg oh my. Goodness, yeah, wow that's going to be.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Fun and then the next, Week, Hey Carolina, panthers no,
bargain they're, Frisky Rico dowdell running all over people who
who to thunk?
Speaker 3 (47:48):
It but you can check.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Out The Packer review podcast if you're A packers Fan
that is via the Free iHeartRadio. App but LET'S i
got a. TEXT i can't read it because it's. Vulgar
what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Here this Is? MINNESOTA i? Agree random.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Texture back to The vikings And Pete bursett's next as
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