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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six five one carpets plus studios.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's nord to win for PA.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Although the host will be joining us from Los Angeles
around ten am this morning as the Minnesota Vikings at
so Far against the Chargers Thursday Night football. Tons of
coverage on the Purple throughout the show today, I will
eventually get to the timber Tech set list, but also
on the line Floyda Rosedale Saturday afternoon at Kinnick in
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Iowa City. The five and two Gophers pj's team, fresh
off that hot win over mister Rayola and the Huskers
are in Iowa to take on well the last time
they were there, Well there was a victory.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, so we're one and oh in our last they're
still selling T shirts down there over that game.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Absolutely at twelve ten, it's commemorated, There's no doubt about it.
But Floyda the Pigs on the line in Iowa City
this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So I'm kicking off nine to doon.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Giving that Mike grim voice of Gophers hoops, voice of
Gophers football, the ability to have him in studio.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I always appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
At Mike Grimm and the number three via X to
follow him and he joins me, Now, how are you, man,
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I like the Vikings to win tonight. Just my two
cents worth getting on that.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I know people want to hear about the Vikings and
we'll talk Gophers, but I just think it's setting up
for a Vikings win.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's it. That's all I got, simply enough. Yeah, Well,
if they follow, if they follow their.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Routes, thus far, it has been w l w L
w L, and that's the mark of a well. Yeah,
speaking the obvious here, a five hundred team, a team
that we've talked about throughout the week that maybe lacks
identity right now, potentially could find an identity tonight. It's
so FI against Justin Herbert's Chargers. And yeah, I don't
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know where my head's at on this game right now,
mister grim.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I was. I was one of those. Look, I don't
consider myself.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You know, my opinions don't mean anything, and oftentimes they
differ from others. I actually left the game more encouraged
last week than most because they moved the ball pretty well.
And I think that the red zone issues with the
talent that they have. That's not a weekly thing. When's
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the last time they've really done that where they've gone
one for five and frankly they scored twice and one
was a bogus hold and one was I thought a
coin toss of an overrule, like to me the on
Hawkinson on Hawkinson's thing, and I think, if you're going
to overturn that, it's got to be more obvious, like
if I think there's how often do you see where
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it's like, well, if that had been called incomplete, they
wouldn't have called it a touchdown either. That to me
falls in that category one of those. I mean, if
I had to bet the safety of my family, I
think probably technically by the rule it was incomplete, but
I don't think it was enough, and certainly not in
comparison to the one earlier that KOC had Manta Smith
that obviously hit the ground anyway, and it wasn't because
the refs all that stuff, But that they lost. There
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were other reasons, but those the fact they move the
ball up and down the field. They should have won
the game. They probably should have won the game. So
I come away with it it sucks that they didn't.
And maybe I'm not as tight in emotionally as many
vikings fans are I want him to win? Of course
you're probably healthier for it, maybe, but so I maybe
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have a different view of it. I thought, man, they
moved the ball against a pretty good team, the defending
world champs, and this red zone issue thing. Look, if
it happens again tonight, then you might have an issue.
But they technically, I thought, you know, you know, and
justin Jefferson, you know, he still thinks he dropped that.
That was a pretty good defensive play by a former
Hawkeye on that play. But if those three things happen,
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they win that game going away, and you know, obviously.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's a pick six.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
So anyway, I don't think they're as bad as everyone
thought after that game. And I don't even think Carson
Wentz was as bad as everybody thought. Guy through for
three thirteen had a little rough luck in the red zone.
Let me let me ask you that, go Vikings. I
can't wait seven twenty. I'll be there with Ron doing
fan line at jail late. We'll do an in.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Studio feast as a quick pop before we transmit.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Midnight through midnight.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I mean, are you gonna be like going to bed
at two am this morning by the time you wind down.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Fan line will end around somewhere between midnight and twelve thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oll get home and I'll be hopefully amped up because
the team won.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And yes I won't I won't go to bed to around.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It takes a little bit, I've found it takes a
little bit to wind down.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It does.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, Like last Friday after that game with the Gophers,
you know, you drive home. First of all, we you know,
we have a great view of Fourth Street, so Guardsy
and DT and the rest of the gang. We're looking
down and were all we see is tail lights. It's like, well,
might as well sit here and socialize for all, hang
out and then once it clears out, off we go.
And then yeah, I just kind of sat on the
couch staring at the sky for a minute just to
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you know, wind down.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, it takes a minute.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I am emotionally invested, yeah in this team, Yeah, in
the Vikings, and so it takes me a lot if
it's a w or in l no doubt to finally
sit down and then wake up at six turn this
thing around a little Friday after noon, Kat and App
and we're back in the game.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's all good. Well, Naps are so underrated.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
They are underrated, absolutely hopefully overrated. Are the five and
two Iowa Hawk guys? How do you view this season?
They nit Penn State at the wire, Penn State's in
a free fall, Wisconsin's a disaster, close l at home
to Indiana, they win a shootout with Rutgers, just kind
of you know, I guess in some ways ten thousand
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foot view of Iowa City in terms of that five
and two record that what are we up against this week?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's a great.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Question because you know, the schedule hasn't been particularly tough,
although when you look at it, Iowa State at the
time was ranked obviously, Indiana's doing what it's doing. Those
are their two losses, so understandable, and the rest of
the teams, they're five wins. And this has been floating
around on Twitter, so I'm not taking credit for it.
The five wins. None of those five teams in whatever
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conference they're in, Three of them are in the Big Ten,
and two of them are in some other whatever lead
U Mass and all but the year in. None of
those teams have a conference win in their respective conferences
or like they combined h to eighteen. Now, what does
that say, I don't know, because I they're fraud We
should try to factor in Minnesota because they have purduing
Rutgers as part of their three wins as.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, and they are over in the league.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
They did beat Nebraska, who has a couple of wins,
so you know it isn't in the non conference. I
can't think that, No, I haven't. I've been tracking the
Northwestern State team, but haven't. I can't believe that were
they the Demons or the Deacons. I can't even think
they were the Demons Demons they I'd be shocked if
they have a conference win. But anyway, point being, I
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watched Iowa early in the year. They played that Friday
night game when no other game was on or no
other Big Ten game was on against Rutgers, and I thought, man,
this Iowa defense doesn't look as good as that typical
Iowa defense. But they they have been pretty good, pretty
stingy since they They did really shut down that Indiana
team Perdue. I'm sorry Penn State needed a blocked field
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goal last week at the end of the first half.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I was a weird play.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I would try to sixty six yard field goal at
the buzzer and it got blocked and returned for a
touchdown by Penn State, So that was one of their touchdowns.
So I think it's a pretty salty defense.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I think they, as they usually do, they're going to
field a team that's pretty good defensively. They had a
linebacker that had been out he's now apparently going to
play this weekend. But they're a little different team offensively.
For a long time, that group had been a drop
back passing type team. They still are. Gronowski Mark Gronowski,
the South Dakota State transfer, is a drop back passer,
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but he is athletic enough even with this kind of
knee injury that he's kind of playing through. He's been
a runner last week over one hundred yards rushing, including
like a sixty seven yard run that got him down
inside the five yard line and set up a touchdown,
and then a scramble late, a design scramble late that
sealed the game got him a first down. So it's
a little different. The Gophers are going to have to
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figure out a way to tackle the quarterback. As if
you remember, we know they had the nine sacks last
week Nordo the week before they could have had another
five or six. They're getting good pass rush, but the
Purdue quarterback Ryan Brown was pretty sneaky, athletic, big kid,
a little like Gronowski, and the Gophers could not hem
him in. So Minnesota is gonna have to be better
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this kid, Gronowski moves a little better. And then he
kind of made an interesting comment. Knowing that Nebraska is
still on Iowa's schedule. He was asked this week by
reporters and I was city Gronowski. Now, I'm talking, what
do you make of Minnesota with the nine sacks last week?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And how worried are you?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And he said, and I'm paraphrasing, well, the Nebraska quarterback
held onto the ball for so long? He said that, Yes,
that's not exactly word for word, but it was something
along those lines. Paraphrasing, He's like, I think on a
lot of those the Nebraska quarterback probably held the ball
too long. So you got to think that that's bullers
and board material for Black Friday when those two teams play,
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absolutely next your next month, but right here, right now.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So I was a little different. And then Minnesota's a
little different.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
They've got a quarterback that they really like they've been
throwing a little more. Some of that's because they haven't
gotten the run game going until last week in which
they buried Nebraska. Both that, you know, they were pretty
efficient both ways. So I don't know if this is
going to be the typical old fashioned rock fight between
Minnesota and Iowa. It might be, and I'm sure both
teams are going to try to establish the run. I
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was averaging, like, you know, one hundred and ninety yards
on the ground, So they're going to run the football.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, they got this because Caleb Johnson obviously went to
the NFL and tough start for him. Well did you
see that special teams play where the kickoff ball lands
and the landing zone and in all fairness, half of
us NFL fans rules on a year year basis. They're
trying to figure out the new dynamic kickoff. Look at
how dynamic it is, and he let the thing go
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into the end zone for and well it's a live ball.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Wow. So it was a tough moment.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I did that, but I know he had fumbled once
early and some other stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So but they just roll out running backs. His new
cat is a Kamari Moulten. Yeah, maybe he's not new,
but I.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Think he's here. Was their guy at the start of
the year. He got hurt early in their first game.
And then they brought in some other guys Washington, Patterson, Williams,
Williams like came out of nowhere after a Moulten got
hurt early. And so two of those guys have been
injured a little bit. And now they and they have
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a freshman now named McNeil, who was just kind of like,
we got to play, you know, we need a third
running back, just to you know, the spear and the
pair as they like to say, or a pair and
a spare, I should say. So this McNeil has played recently.
So the other two guys that have been injured Patterson
and Williams or not Williams, Patterson and I'm trying to
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now I can't remember off the top of my head
of the other guy had mentioned it earlier. Any Washington, Washington,
thank you. As a guy gets old in my age,
it's hard to recall names. Anyway, those guys are apparently
practicing and they're going to be back. So they've got
five guys that they can rotate through at running back
and again the quarterback can run, so they're gonna run
the ball. They're going to try to run the ball.
They have not thrown for a lot of passing yards.
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Minnesota has not given up a lot of passing yards
against teams that struggle that way. So well, that's what
I was curious.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I've kind of joked about it, and again, I'm not
never going to pretend to be a college football insider
at all, but I remember headlines into the season that
people who were following the Hawk, the Hawk, guys, we
got somebody. We got somebody that can chuck it. And
I think he's a former jack Rabbit. He is former
solid Gronowski. Yea more wins than anybody in the history
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of college football. Well, good for him, but he probably won.
He probably should have stayed a jack Rabbit and they might.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well until that checkut.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You're like, I'm glad I did this, but well they
might need him against NDSU.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
We shall see. That's a bit that's this weekend, right.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, I don't have a dog in the fight, but
just for the heck of it, go Bison that one first, too, right,
I think it is one versus two game of the century.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
In he hasn't thrown for two hundred yards in a game.
Yet he's been under one hundred a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And he didn't even really break out in the run game,
I think until this one against Penn State where he
got loose for a buck thirty.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
He's hard to sack though, So even if he's not
a you know, I don't know how many designed runs.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I do think it's hard in the Big Ten to
have a bunch.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Like if you're going to go in and say we're
going to design twelve runs for a quarterback, I don't
know if a quarterback in the Big Ten is going
to last. You know, it's hard because it's a physical league.
Guys want to be violent, and you know there are
some guys like, look, if you're Lamar Jackson, you might
have eight designed runs and you're elusive and you don't
take that direct hit very often. But Gradowski's a physical
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kind of runner. He's already been taken out of at
least two games with injury, including the Indiana game. If
he doesn't get hurt in the Indiana game, chance probably
probably win the game. Why thinking back and remember watching
that game. So he has been banged up. His knee is.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Has messed up.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I think that was part of the injury, and yet
last week he ran like a deer, like he was
not injured at all. And then he had some sort
of shoulder issue coming off of last year's year with
the jack Rabbits.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I don't think anyone has said anything, so this is
pure speculation on my part. But I wonder if that
shoulder issue isn't impacting some of his throws because he
has come up. I know the complaint there in Iowa
is he is he throws the ball short of where
it should go. Okay, especially outs and different things. It
just the steam isn't there. So I wonder if if
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part of that might be the shoulder. I'm just again
purely speculating, but yeah, they have not thrown for a
lot of yards.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Paris might have some ball hawking opportunities, I hope, so
that would be ideal. I dig that now with uh,
with with this with this team kind of and you
mentioned it, Gophers haven't given up a ton of pass
yards over the course of the season. The one thing though,
we have been gotten on the ground to come different times.
And now I'm just kind of shooting from the lip
but I think it was Perdue who ran for freaking miles.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It was again, So.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'm just kind of I'm thinking about this with with
Molten and kind of that three headed attack that you're mentioning,
combined with a QB that can either extend or at
least find his way via the scramble for eight nine
yards at a time, that would be kind of an
a topic for me.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
For an underdog Gophers team into this game, I think
it'll be a very fascinating what the game plan is.
I don't obviously know what it is. We'll watch it
as an unfolds. I'm sure there'll be adjustments made. But
don't you think the strength of that defense from Minnesota's
is the safeties. The corners have been pretty good. They've
got a corner who's a transfer from Iowa. We'll see
if he plays. He missed last week. John Nest he's
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the leader in interceptions for the Gophers, and say, hey, guys,
they don't throw the ball very well. Their receivers aren't
great at separation. Doesn't mean they can't beat you. Doesn't
mean you know you can just relax, but we're gonna
let you cover and then we're gonna put seven eight
guys in the box and try to control that run game.
And I'm sure if that's the strategy, that's what most
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teams have tried. And Iowa's won five of their seven games,
so they figured out ways to still win. And they
do because their defense is good, their punt games good,
their special teams good. Their return game is remarkably good.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You know, we thought that Cooper Dejene was a great
return man. This guy I think is better. Caden Wigen
is his name. He's averaging over twenty yards kick and
punt returns. You average over twenty yards on a punt return.
He had a ninety five yard punt return for a
touchdown earlier this year, which helps the average certainly. But
that's a guy that if if I'm in charge, my kicker,
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I know, can kick it out of the back of
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'm telling him boot that thing.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
As far as you can live down the band pit,
and then I'm also telling my punter angle that thing
directional it. We're not going to let that kid get
any bonus yards. Because that's how for years Iowa has
kind of won without having great offenses. You forget about
the yards you gain and lose in special teams. Don't
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let people return punts on you, and have a punter
pun at sixty yards every time you're gaining a few,
you know, ten yards twelve yards on the field, and
then have a return guy who can get you in
this case twenty yards of return on punts but on
average all of a sudden, and then don't commit penalties
when the other teams commit eighty yards with the penalties
and all of a sudden in that hidden yardage, Iowa
is a plus a million, you know, over the last
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decade in that And so that's how you can win
games the way they have without.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Having just this explosive, dynamic offense.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Darius Taylor found his legs I think nearly one fifty
on the ground in the win over Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Great is that something.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Can we start to rely upon that again because it's
kind of fun on Monday's getting the chance to hear
from PJ and it's good times and we're pumping it up,
and specifically after that defensive performance on Rayola, the nine sacks,
the whole thing. But this is a team that has
had to win in ways contrary to how PJ typically
would and let's raise Drake lindsay while running two hundred
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a game, right, and let's let's take some pressure off
the kid. Now, Drake mostly has handled those moments when
we've had to air it out quite well. So that's
a good sign for the future. But specifically with Darius
pumped up for him, high end talent, but just hasn't
founded and as a team, you know, he's he's working
from that soft tissue Injy earlier in the year. And
it's easier, boy, I think, but you're having game, You're
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getting out of there with forty four yards rushing, thirty
yards rushing. That is that is the antithesis of flex offense.
But to see that the other night felt good. Can
we start to say, I think we got this. I
think we maybe figured that out. It's good momentum to
work from.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Because they hadn't been very effective in any game other
than the Buffalo game, you know, it was really hard
to know. On the Northwestern State game, that's the game
he injured the hamstring. He had I think like three
carries and twenty yards in that game and he was
headed for a touchdown when the hamstring. I don't know
whether it tore or whatever strained or whatever it was
popped or whatever. Anyway, the injury happened in that game,
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and they really just it just had not been a
great running attack and it was really startling against Purdue.
I mean the Gophers were really I mean that's a
good win given how statistically they got out played in
that game. And it's why every Saturday is you know,
I know the gamblings in the news now, Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know how people can make a
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living betting college sports because every Saturday is so different, right,
and maybe there aren't many people that make a living.
And that's, as the old saying goes, why they build
those big buildings out in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Or wherever they might be. Now.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But even the you know, within the Big Ten, think
about two weeks ago, Minnesota couldn't run the ball, gave
up a bunch of pass and running yards against Purdue.
And Purdue has been putting up good offensive numbers all
year and then they get I think they got shut
out right by by Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah you can find it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
They if not, they didn't score maybe one touchdown, but
their their offense looked awful against Northwestern, and Northwestern isn't
thought to be some juggernaut, although all of a sudden
they're sitting nineteen rip yeah, nineteen rips.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So it's just weird week each week.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Sadly our favorite teams, but I think we've been on
the losing end at Evanston, Yes shut out. Was that
twenty seven nothing or some rainy awful game, two hundred
people in the stands.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
That was twenty seventeen thirty nine nothing? Oh yeah, that
was that was that was bringing up back member this
year Guardian and I will still talk about that. I
sent and I kid you know, I sent a picture
of the band at halftime, and because I'm a band guy,
I like to support the band. So it was at Northwestern,
and this isn't a knock on Northwestern fans, although they aren't,
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you know, the biggest drawing fan base in the Big Tennel.
That's a place where a lot of times the visiting
fans will go in and gobble up tickets because it's
centrally located, so Ohio State, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin fans can
go watch their team in Chicago's a melting pot. There's
a bunch of grads from Minnesota or Ohio State, or Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan,
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Michigan State that live in Chicago, that that's their chance
on the purple line, and out they go and they're
they're at the game anyway. I so I really did
not The intention was not to show how few people.
It really wasn't how few people were in the stands.
So I send a picture out of the band. I'm like, halftime,
you know, halftime, And back then I was doing that.
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I always send out a picture of the band. Started
to go for home games. But back then I was
sending out each everywhere half to hey, halftime entertainment, and
there was there's nobody in the stands, like literally literally,
i'll show you the picture after you can blow it
up and you can count. There's like seventeen people, a
couple of them wearing the orange you know, the orange
deer hunting coats because it's so cold and rainy. And
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and then I had a couple of people like that
had to be like the band practice this morning at
six am. There's zero chance that's live. So they're accusing
me of like trying to stir the pot. So I
take a picture of the third quarter kickoff about three
minutes later. Yeah, and you can see the teams out
there lining up for the kickoff and tweet that out.
I said, here take and somehow one of the Nebraska
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reporters got onto that, and then all these Nebraska fans
pipe in about terrible fans, we're the best, all this stuff. Anyway,
I digress. That's that's the game. Thirty nine nothing, my god,
And yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That was a bad game.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But anyway, Purdue takes it nineteen nothing on the chin.
And my point is it's a week to week proposition
in college sports. If you to watch Minnesota's running attack
against Purdue, and Purdue hadn't been statistically very good against
the run, you would have said there's no way that
they're going to do what they did against Nebraska last Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But yet they did. And so that's why when you
when you're asked, what do you think is going to
happen this weekend? I don't know. I don't know. I
don't know. I would I would guess that PJ.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Fleck and Greg Harbo offensively are going to try to
establish the run. Given the success they had Friday, maybe
they've stumbled onto something. I also think Drake Lindsay worked
really hard getting them into the right run play. I
think for a young quarterback, maybe there's been a couple
of not miscommunications, but checking.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
The wrong short thing or you know.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And I don't know how complicated it gets, and I
know they're putting a lot on his plate, and maybe
there was some misreads on what where to send the run,
where to send the play right left, and I don't know,
one hole, two hole, whatever, short hole, however it goes.
So I think that that was probably a little better
this week. And I do think another week of recovery
for Taylor. He had the pop in his step and
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when he's one hundred percent man, he's really good. So
I think they're going to knock on the door on
that and see can we establish some run and if
they can, they're going to go with that. If they can't,
they have fairly quickly the so far this season abandoned
the run. They did it against Rutgers, they did it
against Purdue, and they just said, all right, we're gonna
we're gonna get into this quick passing game. And sometimes
it is a four yard pass, but it serves as
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a hand off. It serves to move the sticks and
so they've got that certainly that bullet in the hole
shirt if they have to try that. But I would
guess they're gonna, you know, kick the tires on the
run game to start and see where it takes them.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So, you know, we've talked a lot about nil and
just kind of state of the Big Ten, just kind
of some global views of the of the conference and
you know, eliminating the divisions, never going to get the
chance to win the West again, and where everyone's staring
up at at Ohio State, Oregon and Michigan. So one
way that you keep people engaged is you win.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Your rivalry games.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, and I think since PJ started seven and one,
I was checking that while you were finishing your last answer.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think he's seven and one against Nebraska. Love that.
How about the AX game.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
He's won three of four against Wisconsin now and frankly
it should be four or five based on what I've
been seeing from Sconnieville thus far in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
But no game is gearing in the twenty twenty game.
That one's still that went the COVID game. The Gopher
should have won that game. Yeah, Yeah, So slip away.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
So with that, with that said, this is the this
is the one on the list. I feel like there's
a fervor around Gophers fans. Yep one in seven against
and I think they're one in nine in their last
ten against Iowa. And overall, I think Farrence is like
nineteen and six or nineteen those seven.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Overall, it is weird how.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You have the number like PJ I think against Purdue
was also like seven and one, and Perdue remember was
pretty good with Jeff Brahmin there absolutely and they got
in the league the same year, and there's always were
some comparisons. So there's got to be further around this game.
There is, Yeah, we need to have the pig more often.
We do really to make it a good rivalry and
Wisconsin people, you know that for a while, that was
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just that was just Remember when the Gophers won it
in twenty eighteen, that was the first time Minnesota had
won it in fifteen years, and we prayed that thing
around the state like it was the Lombardi Trophy, right,
And it was at the State Fair, and it was
at every little gathering, and the Gophers would take it
out on their fundraising trips and the Scanie fans would
would say, geez act like you've been there before, and
(24:55):
I would say, it's been fifteen years, and tell you
when you don't have something and you really want it
and you just don't and you finally get it, you're
going to celebrate it. And I think the Wisconsin fans
understand it a little more now that they haven't won
it each year, like it stings when you don't have it.
But Minnesota's pretty lucky. They've got, you know, three of
the great rivalry trophies in all of football. Right You've
(25:16):
got the Acts, You've got the Pig, and you've got
the Jug. The jug is literally the oldest sports trophy, yes,
in America, right n three.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
We could use that more often.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You said, we don't play them that much, but you
know that, as you mentioned, when you're in this Big
ten and the way it stacks up with everything, that's
a hard, harder game to win than your I would
consider in terms of level of competition, class, you know,
the the you know class one, A, two A, three A,
four A, if you want to do it like high schools,
I think Minnesota to be in the same class as Wisconsin, Iowa,
(25:49):
and Nebraska. So you want to win those rivalry games
for sure, and occasionally you can you know, wait up
and punch above your weight, as they say, and you
hope to win that jug sometimes. I think twenty fourteen
was the last time, but they've only played you know,
they only played once every three years now, the way
the things set up anyway, Yes, I in fact, I
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looked this up in researching the game a little, you know,
getting rolling on the boards last night at Kinnick Stadium.
Minnesota's three and nineteen in their last twenty two. So
it's hard. I mean that that Iowa program has been
pretty steady. There's been some dips for Minnesota in that stretch.
And you think three and nineteen in their last twenty two,
(26:31):
so that's twenty two games. That's not twenty two years.
It's for you play every other year, twenty two at Kinnick.
That goes back to the eighties, right mid eighties. So
i always had some good run in there. Minnesota's had
a few dips, and then when the teams have been
relatively even, Minnesota has not had as much luck either.
So it's time. We said last time it was time,
(26:53):
and they got it down there, and what you say
it was like a seven point seven point spread.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Is that what you said?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well, I saw I think it's at eight eight. Okay, yeah,
so you're an underdog, you got nothing to lose. Let's
go down there and bring that to Floyda Rosedale back.
It's a great trophy.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
There we go. You know, it's a great trophy, and
it does add to the game. It just does.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
There's just an aspect of you wait to see who wins,
and then you know, whatever winning team charges to go
get the trophy, the axe, whatever it is, the pig.
There is just something about a rivalry game that includes
a trophy, and especially the older ones. Right now, they've
come up with some you know, the Governor's victory bell
with Penn State. I remember when the Gophers beat Penn
(27:36):
State in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It wasn't until like two days later.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
That somebody said, you never mentioned the victory bell in
the call, and I'm like, I forgot the thing even existed. Sorry,
you know, I mean, that just isn't in the top
of your mind. I think Iowa and Wisconsin like, hell.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You guys are too busy storm in the field.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, way exactly. Daryl was lighting up a victory cigar
in the radio booth. Literally he was. And I don't
blame but the Iowa Wisconsin created like that I'm going
to say fifteen years ago maybe in their.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Rivalry, and that's a good rivalry. That's a border battle
as well.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Sure the Heartland Trophy and it's a cow, okay, and
you know it from from Wisconsin, I'm sure they think
it's a dairy cow, and from Iowa they probably think
it's a beef cow or.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
What have you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
But for a beef myself, it isn't. There just isn't.
And maybe it's because I'm not part of that on
either side, but it seems to me that it's it
almost seems gimmicky because it was created recently, right just
as a just as a where you know, these things
like the jug is nineteen oh three, I don't remember
how far back. I think nineteen thirty six for the Floyd.
(28:44):
The first Floyd was a real pig live. The two
governors bet a real pig on the game, and so
I think it's like the mid thirties when that started.
And then they said, well, we can't do a live
pig every year, so let's let's bronze a pig. It's
ninety eight pounds, and here we are playing for it
every year.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Well, I'm scrambling to find when the pig first started.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I think it's the I think it's the mid thirties.
And it was a real pig from Rosedale Farms down
in like Fort Dodge, Iowa. And and the winning governor
got to I don't know what he did. I guess
he would butcher the pig. Well, I'm just I'm scrambling
via Wikipedia. President so FDR's former son in law Curtis Dahl,
(29:26):
who attended the nineteen thirty five game as a guest
to the governors, et cetera, et cetera. Well, the rivalry
was so heated, it had gotten to be heated, and
I think they sent somebody from the White House to say, hey,
we got to be calmer here. And as a peace offering,
the governors of both states decided, I mean, I think
(29:46):
this is the history behind it, decided let's distract people
from being mad at each other. And we're and and
we're going to bet a pig. And I'm like, well, yeah,
that that will really that will really calm calm people.
Now you've put more at stake on the game that
was that night.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Team thirty five, Floyd Olson and Clyde Herring. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
well go go for crazy. I appreciate it and sad news.
I know you're a Kiss fan, Ace Freely. It sounded
like complications from a fall. I think two falls is
to twice in seventy four.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What a life?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I mean, you know when you think about Hey and
it's like kind of like that commercial whatever the workforce
or work there or whatever where it's like you're a
rock star, No, you're a rock star. Well, these guys
are real life rock stars. Ace Freely was a real
life rock star, you know when he when they reunited
in the mid nineties, and you know, it's the same concert.
Kiss has put on the same concert for forty years.
(30:40):
Paul Stanley talks about it. He's like, if we don't
put that concert on, people get mad. They don't want
to hear new Kiss songs. They want to hear the
Kiss songs that they and they want to see Gene
split Blood and they want to see him, you know,
throw a fireball, and they want to see him. They
want to see Paul fly out into the crowd and
sing love gun and they want to see Ace Freely
shoot out of the end of his guitar. Yeah, fake
(31:02):
bullets that then they're firecrackers across the way that make
it look like his guitar shooting. And that's my memory
of Ace Freely is in those when they reunited and
he would they had those sound effects with firecrackers and
it looked like he was shooting bullets out of his guitar.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh, hey, thanks for hanging out in the studio with
to see you.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Let's get a pig this weekend. Let's get the pig.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's Mike Grim, voice of Gophers football again. Two thirty
pm ish kickoff on Saturday at Chinnick. You get to
hear it here on the fan pregame kicking off around
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a busy one, indeed, not just looking forward to the
Gophers on Saturday, but before we ever get there, let's
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Minnesota Vikings underdogs themselves at SOFI Stadium against the Chargers
this evening. TimberTech dot Com brings you the set list,
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PA at ten AM from Los Angeles, Ben Lieber around
ten thirty at eleven AM, Mix of Fantasy and Reality
with Paul Charcion and eleven twenty five. Alex Lewis is
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going to join as well. In the meantime, whether it's
insane news coming out of the NBA and the FBI
with gambling allegations. We got some Vikes Bites around the corner.
Are we going to have our two starting tackles tonight?
Wild last night? Wolves in the opener last night, some
busy fodder throughout the remainder of the first hour with
Brett Blakemore here producing Omnordo and let's do a cash
(32:27):
giveaway and get caught up on the clock.
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Speaker 2 (32:39):
Keyword bills.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Vikes Bites lost four to one last night in their
road trip finale at the New Jersey Devils. They're coming
home for six. Meanwhile, the Howell won their opener last night.
Tough night, by the way for Chauncey. Billups here at
least in the last I'd say sixteen eighteen hours, however long.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I wonder if you knew the FBI was going to
be at.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
His doorstep this morning as as he was taken into
custody along with Miami Heat player Terry Rosier. They were
arrested yesterday as part of a pair of investigations.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
This is per ESPN.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Related to illegal gambling, and so Rogier was arrested let
me see here this morning at a hotel in Orlando,
and then Billups he was arrested in Oregon as part
of a separate but related illegal gambling case linked to
an illegal poker operation tied to the mafia.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
My goodness. Let me see.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Former Cleveland CALVS player and assistant coach Damon Jones was
arrested as part of providing let me see, providing inside
information about NBA games to code defendants.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And you found some audio.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Cash Betel, of course, director of the FBI, spoke to
the media, I think around forty minutes ago, and I
think you found like a ninety second clip of him
just kind of summing up exactly what's going on where
this is a massive, massive story connecting the mafia and
sports gambling.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Let's hear from Cash.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
To announce a historic arrest across a wide, sweeping criminal
enterprise that envelops both the NBA.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And Lakasa Nostra.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
The men and women up here standing with me represent
a small portion of the leadership team that brought profound
justice in an era that needed it more than any
I'll just highlight some of some of the details in
the case and the FBI work, and then you'll hear
from the others. But as you now know, individuals such
as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier were taking
(34:36):
into custody today former current NBA players and coaches. What
you don't know is that this is an illegal gambling
operation and sports rigging operation that spanned the course of years.
The FBI led a coordinative takedown across eleven states to
arrest over thirty individuals today responsible for this case, which
(34:56):
is very much ongoing. Not only did we crack into
the fraud that these perpetrators committed on the grand stage
of the NBA, but we also entered and executed a
system of justice against La Casinostra to include the Bonano, Gambino,
Genevesi and Luchase crime families, and you'll hear more about
(35:20):
those details today. The charges and the arrests that were
taken down across this country range from wire fraud, money laundering, extortion, robbery,
illegal gambling. This FBI will leave no room for any
perpetrator of crime across this country. You hear a lot
about our work of defending the homeland and crushing violent crime. Well,
this work is also representative of a colossal portion of
(35:43):
the FBI's mandate to keep America safe and to keep
our entertainment industry fair and secure.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
All Right, we're good on that. Brett.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Thirty individuals, eleven states, multiple years, and we've heard a
few again. Chauncey Billups, Damon Terry Rozier are the three
names that we've heard many more to come out connection
to the mob. Brett, how about that, I've always just
in casual conversation. I mean, there's an allure whether you
(36:13):
watch The Godfather or Goodfellas, there's kind of a you know,
Sopranos and d hof TV show that that is there's
kind of an allure as an outsider like that that
mob life in the way it's portrayed in media. However,
I mean, I'm just just a dumb ass kid from
man Cato, Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I don't know about the mafia, but.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
You read you read stories, you watch documentaries and all
those things. But I've always kind of wondered through the technology,
through the technological age, how has the mafia evolved? And
nowadays I'm just kind of picturing like they're those they
got bot farms running like tele you know, cell phone
scams and internet bits, like they've been finding different ways
(36:55):
to take advantage of it, and thinking when it comes
to like sports betting and sports gambling, throwing games and
things like that. Point shaving. I forget who the Arizona
State player was back in the day. That was a
huge story, but just kind of the idea at some point,
as athletes begun to make so much money, there's so
much money in professional sports, and in talking about the
(37:19):
nil era, there's some money in college sports too. You're
thinking of like Johntay Porter, you heard it, you know,
he's he's running his own props and maybe he makes
one hundred grand off of that and sacrifices his entire
NBA career. This is just insanity where Jouncey Billip I
can only assume It's not like I'm looking at his
bank account here tens of millions of dollars over the
(37:41):
course of his career.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
He's the head coach of a freaking NBA team.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Now, it's not you know, people can be leaned on
and if there are gambling debts or there's leverage that
is imposed and things over the course of time. You know,
these individuals when they want to make that cash, they
can be pretty relentless. I get it, But how do
you get yourself in that spot? I mean, these people
aren't making pennies here. I mean you think about what
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you know a couple hundred grand would do to your life,
for my life, et cetera. I mean, these guys have
been in the top point one percent for a very
long time, and even they are potentially at risk of
being captured by organized crime.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
This is craziness, man, the FBI.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
This comes from senior ESPN writer Dan Wetzel. The two
operations in the two cases in the gambling probe are
named Operation Nothing But Debt and Operation Royal Flush.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's brilliant. I don't know if that's satire or not,
but I'm running with it.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
That's probably part of I mean, you know, the ability
to investigate and potentially bring down these things.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
There has to be a rush.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I mean, just the you know when you put something,
when you put a group of guys together and gals
in a room and it's like, all right, we're going
after these guys. There's got to be some excitements and motivation.
It's naming the operation. It's got to be kind of fun. Yeah,
part of it, I should say, still very early in
terms of who the other names are and exactly the
(39:07):
implications of some of what's going on, but certainly massive news,
and it appears at this stage MBA focused interested again
as more names and more information comes out exactly where
things are headed with this thing. But wow, huge huge
betting connection between the mafia, Chelncey, Billups what just crazy,
(39:28):
crazy news coming out earlier this morning, and we'll try
to keep posted on it as new stuff pops up.
When we return, well, we'll do some Vikes bites and
catch up on the clock and then again Pa, he's
in LA and we'll talk about Vikes at so fa
tonight against the Chargers.
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Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, good advice, absolutely, Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (40:15):
I can't help it.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I just keep refreshing social and just waiting for more
names and such. With this NBA betting, you got billups
and some poker rigging bit man, it's kind of weird.
It's I don't know, I shouldn't be attracted to bad
news the way that I am sometimes, but once you
hear something like this, it just kind of shocks you
(40:35):
and you just want to kind of become obsessed with it.
But Minnesota Vikings looking for good news tonight at so
Far facing the Los Angeles Chargers. If everything goes according
to rhythm, should be a w right win loss win, loss,
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Speaker 2 (41:16):
Where are we headed to, Brett?
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Yeah, I'm scrolling Twitter just to make sure that Benny,
the Bowl and the Sun's guerrillas okay and have not
been taking into custody.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I think Crunch is fine. We'll go here. Bikes Bites.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
You have to start with the QB and I'm putting
together the Common Man montage at the same time as
running the show Full Disclosure, And I was just listening
to Koc say, this is a Sunday game. Maybe would
have pushed JJ and maybe would have been okay to go,
but just because it's a Thursday, we didn't feel comfortable
pushing him. So Carson Wentz is your starter? Where's your
gauge on the urgency meter that Wentz is starting tonight.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Well, I mean urgency in terms of getting the victory.
I admittedly following the Eagles game as frustrating as I was,
as frustrated as I was with the regression that we saw. Again,
you know a lot of I've joked about the seven
oh one's, the seven oh one area codes popping into
the text message machine about Carson, you know, and D
and D's fine is Carson Wentz Bismarck, the love of Bismarck,
(42:11):
go buys in against South Dakota State. I have no
I mean, I think it's I think they have a
trophy and it's like a giant rock or something like that.
But but no, I have no I have no dog
in the fight. Hopefully it's a great game number one,
number two, that's super cool. But but to that end,
massive regression. He was inaccurate, as inaccurate as we've seen him.
(42:31):
How much is the shoulder hurting him?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
But I never had any any feeling that that JJ
was going to return tonight against the Chargers. So in
terms of UH, in terms of Carson playing, I'm not
surprised by it.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
The way that you led into it.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Though with if it may have been as if it
was a Sunday game, the conversation could be different. Around McCarthy,
I think it's just the same conversation. When he's healthy,
he's going to play and so and I think that's
regardless of how Carson performs tonight. I want him to
throw four hundred and four against the against the Chargers
this evening and just get some runaway w that'd be sweet.
(43:07):
And I'm rooting for Carson, but but I just I
just think that that JJ around the corner. When he's healthy,
he's he's absolutely gonna play. Text message, what Regression Wentz
is who he is? Text message is six four six
eighty six. I always appreciated, but I got this text
what Regression Wentz is who he is? That was as
bad a game with the opportunities presented as I've seen
(43:28):
from Carson Wentz. You have to factor in that shoulder injury,
potentially something else that we're not aware of. You can
talk about ribs, he can talk about a hip, whatever
it is. He's been getting just blasted and he keeps
getting up. But it was ugly on Sunday. Needs to
be less so this.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Evening bikes bites, bikes, bikes.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
The other big talker is the tackle situation on both
sides of the line, most importantly CD of course significant soreness.
It would be a huge, massive concern if not either
one of them could play. I'm just I would be
very worried if neither one of them go for the
Viking side because that CD. I mean when he was
out earlier on and then when he came back, it
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was night and day different when Darisaw was in compared
to worrying is out. So you got to hope that
he at least gets some sort of snaps tonight.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
This is this is worrisome, not so much. I mean
it's it's worrisome if O'Neil doesn't play. Was less surprised
though throughout the week he saw limited and limited and
such in terms of him making his return making all
the snaps.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
This one's a little weird.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
You get the bye week, he's on the he's on
the pitch count, and then okay, we can just kind
of wash our hands of the idea of ramping him up.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
We're just gonna plug him in at left tackle.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But I think whether it was Ian Rappaport this morning,
and just kind of seeing the way that the the
injury report played out with the final one going yesterday
and seeing him as questionable and seeing him apparently having
pain in that knee.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
This is problematic, man.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
And and not that the I mean Khalil Mack is
not what he used to be, so I mean and
I don't want to give him an opportunity against Justin's
School to find the days of old, certainly, but this
team can get after you a little bit, and it
is incredibly worrisome and potentially a problem if neither of
them go. So now you think about Justin's School, you
(45:17):
got Walter Rouse in the mix, you're already kind of
wondering what Kevin O'Connell has up his sleeve in terms
of the center spot. Not that he was vague or ambiguous,
just kind of we're going to see who's the best
now that Michael Jurgens has returned to the fold and
practicing in full and Brandell frankly did not have a
good game. His second game at center was not as
good as his first in London. So potentially musical chairs
(45:41):
again with this group, you know, you might have a
justin school. On one side, does Brandell come out and
play tackle.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Or are you using Walter Rouse.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm just so exhausted having these offensive line combination conversations.
And in the end, I think we've had fifteen different
combos through six games. Sounds like it could be sixteen
potentially tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Fikes Bikes got one more in you I do as
I roll back, So I'm like, what do you think
of the Chargers? Where's your meter on them?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Because they started off red hot, they spanked the Chiefs
in week one, they looked very good. They're three and zero.
They've lost three of their last four, including to the Giants,
to the Commanders, to the Colts.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Not very good losses.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
And the only team they've beaten the last four was
the Dolphins, who are just a dumpster fire. But Herbert
is very good and Harbaugh is, for the most part
a good coach. Where's your temperature at with the Chargers?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, my temperature at and well we'll talk more about
this right around the corner with the host but in
the end, with Aaron Jones potentially returning to the lineup,
if we can establish the run, the Chargers have allowed
a buck forty a game over the last five in
which they are I believe two and three in that stretch,
and you mentioned they've lost three the last four. They
also cannot run the ball right now, and I'm still
(46:56):
trying to figure out exactly is it Vidal Sassoon, oh
Kamadi Vedal is there? Starting running back Hassan Haskins. I
don't know if he's out in this game or if
he's questionable. But O'marion Hampton, the rookie tar Heel and
then and then Najie Harris both not part of this equation.
Naji the whole year, Amarion Hampton at least the next month.
(47:16):
So uh, they can't run the ball, which has led
Herbert now to I believe leading the NFL in passing yards.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
So this is a very gettable team.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
But the way that Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Got us on Sunday was was with deep passes and
second chance opportunities where he buys himself a couple extra
seconds and then aj Brown and DeVante Smith are open
down the field. Similarly, tonight, you're worried about Keenan Allen,
who always has career games against us. You're worried about
Lad McConkie, a terrific young start to start to his
young career. And then and then gwenton Johnston, and they
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might be that's their big play guy, their deep threat
down the field, if they're able to extend it down
the field the way that the Eagles were.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
In just a handful of plays against the Purple.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Uh, We're we're gonna be uh, We're gonna be having
some tough, some tough texts and talkbacks during fan line
tonight so that that can't be the way it was
against the Birds. That's Vikes Bites, Thank you, Brett, brought
to you by Thousand Hills. When we return, we'll check
in with Pa who's in Los Angeles, get his thoughts
on the health situation with the old line, the QB,
and just how we beat the Bolts tonight mission beat
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the Bolts at so far. We'll continue this into the
second hour. It's Nordo in for Pa, but with Pa
next on the fan
Six five one carpets plus studios.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's nord to win for PA.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Although the host will be joining us from Los Angeles
around ten am this morning as the Minnesota Vikings at
so Far against the Chargers Thursday Night football. Tons of
coverage on the Purple throughout the show today, I will
eventually get to the timber Tech set list, but also
on the line Floyda Rosedale Saturday afternoon at Kinnick in
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Iowa City. The five and two Gophers pj's team, fresh
off that hot win over mister Rayola and the Huskers
are in Iowa to take on well the last time
they were there, Well there was a victory.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, so we're one and oh in our last they're
still selling T shirts down there over that game.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Absolutely at twelve ten, it's commemorated, There's no doubt about it.
But Floyda the Pigs on the line in Iowa City
this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So I'm kicking off nine to doon.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Giving that Mike grim voice of Gophers hoops, voice of
Gophers football, the ability to have him in studio.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I always appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
At Mike Grimm and the number three via X to
follow him and he joins me, Now, how are you, man,
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I like the Vikings to win tonight. Just my two
cents worth getting on that.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I know people want to hear about the Vikings and
we'll talk Gophers, but I just think it's setting up
for a Vikings win.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's it. That's all I got, simply enough. Yeah, Well,
if they follow, if they follow their.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Routes, thus far, it has been w l w L
w L, and that's the mark of a well. Yeah,
speaking the obvious here, a five hundred team, a team
that we've talked about throughout the week that maybe lacks
identity right now, potentially could find an identity tonight. It's
so FI against Justin Herbert's Chargers. And yeah, I don't
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know where my head's at on this game right now,
mister grim.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I was. I was one of those. Look, I don't
consider myself.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You know, my opinions don't mean anything, and oftentimes they
differ from others. I actually left the game more encouraged
last week than most because they moved the ball pretty well.
And I think that the red zone issues with the
talent that they have. That's not a weekly thing. When's
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the last time they've really done that where they've gone
one for five and frankly they scored twice and one
was a bogus hold and one was I thought a
coin toss of an overrule, like to me the on
Hawkinson on Hawkinson's thing, and I think, if you're going
to overturn that, it's got to be more obvious, like
if I think there's how often do you see where
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it's like, well, if that had been called incomplete, they
wouldn't have called it a touchdown either. That to me
falls in that category one of those. I mean, if
I had to bet the safety of my family, I
think probably technically by the rule it was incomplete, but
I don't think it was enough, and certainly not in
comparison to the one earlier that KOC had Manta Smith
that obviously hit the ground anyway, and it wasn't because
the refs all that stuff, But that they lost. There
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were other reasons, but those the fact they move the
ball up and down the field. They should have won
the game. They probably should have won the game. So
I come away with it it sucks that they didn't.
And maybe I'm not as tight in emotionally as many
vikings fans are I want him to win? Of course
you're probably healthier for it, maybe, but so I maybe
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have a different view of it. I thought, man, they
moved the ball against a pretty good team, the defending
world champs, and this red zone issue thing. Look, if
it happens again tonight, then you might have an issue.
But they technically, I thought, you know, you know, and
justin Jefferson, you know, he still thinks he dropped that.
That was a pretty good defensive play by a former
Hawkeye on that play. But if those three things happen,
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they win that game going away, and you know, obviously.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's a pick six.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
So anyway, I don't think they're as bad as everyone
thought after that game. And I don't even think Carson
Wentz was as bad as everybody thought. Guy through for
three thirteen had a little rough luck in the red zone.
Let me let me ask you that, go Vikings. I
can't wait seven twenty. I'll be there with Ron doing
fan line at jail late. We'll do an in.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Studio feast as a quick pop before we transmit.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Midnight through midnight.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I mean, are you gonna be like going to bed
at two am this morning by the time you wind down.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Fan line will end around somewhere between midnight and twelve thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oll get home and I'll be hopefully amped up because
the team won.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And yes I won't I won't go to bed to around.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It takes a little bit, I've found it takes a
little bit to wind down.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It does.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, Like last Friday after that game with the Gophers,
you know, you drive home. First of all, we you know,
we have a great view of Fourth Street, so Guardsy
and DT and the rest of the gang. We're looking
down and were all we see is tail lights. It's like, well,
might as well sit here and socialize for all, hang
out and then once it clears out, off we go.
And then yeah, I just kind of sat on the
couch staring at the sky for a minute just to
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you know, wind down.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, it takes a minute.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I am emotionally invested, yeah in this team, Yeah, in
the Vikings, and so it takes me a lot if
it's a w or in l no doubt to finally
sit down and then wake up at six turn this
thing around a little Friday after noon, Kat and App
and we're back in the game.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's all good. Well, Naps are so underrated.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
They are underrated, absolutely hopefully overrated. Are the five and
two Iowa Hawk guys? How do you view this season?
They nit Penn State at the wire, Penn State's in
a free fall, Wisconsin's a disaster, close l at home
to Indiana, they win a shootout with Rutgers, just kind
of you know, I guess in some ways ten thousand
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foot view of Iowa City in terms of that five
and two record that what are we up against this week?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's a great.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Question because you know, the schedule hasn't been particularly tough,
although when you look at it, Iowa State at the
time was ranked obviously, Indiana's doing what it's doing. Those
are their two losses, so understandable, and the rest of
the teams, they're five wins. And this has been floating
around on Twitter, so I'm not taking credit for it.
The five wins. None of those five teams in whatever
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conference they're in, Three of them are in the Big Ten,
and two of them are in some other whatever lead
U Mass and all but the year in. None of
those teams have a conference win in their respective conferences
or like they combined h to eighteen. Now, what does
that say, I don't know, because I they're fraud We
should try to factor in Minnesota because they have purduing
Rutgers as part of their three wins as.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, and they are over in the league.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
They did beat Nebraska, who has a couple of wins,
so you know it isn't in the non conference. I
can't think that, No, I haven't. I've been tracking the
Northwestern State team, but haven't. I can't believe that were
they the Demons or the Deacons. I can't even think
they were the Demons Demons they I'd be shocked if
they have a conference win. But anyway, point being, I
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watched Iowa early in the year. They played that Friday
night game when no other game was on or no
other Big Ten game was on against Rutgers, and I thought, man,
this Iowa defense doesn't look as good as that typical
Iowa defense. But they they have been pretty good, pretty
stingy since they They did really shut down that Indiana
team Perdue. I'm sorry Penn State needed a blocked field
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goal last week at the end of the first half.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I was a weird play.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I would try to sixty six yard field goal at
the buzzer and it got blocked and returned for a
touchdown by Penn State, So that was one of their touchdowns.
So I think it's a pretty salty defense.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I think they, as they usually do, they're going to
field a team that's pretty good defensively. They had a
linebacker that had been out he's now apparently going to
play this weekend. But they're a little different team offensively.
For a long time, that group had been a drop
back passing type team. They still are. Gronowski Mark Gronowski,
the South Dakota State transfer, is a drop back passer,
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but he is athletic enough even with this kind of
knee injury that he's kind of playing through. He's been
a runner last week over one hundred yards rushing, including
like a sixty seven yard run that got him down
inside the five yard line and set up a touchdown,
and then a scramble late, a design scramble late that
sealed the game got him a first down. So it's
a little different. The Gophers are going to have to
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figure out a way to tackle the quarterback. As if
you remember, we know they had the nine sacks last
week Nordo the week before they could have had another
five or six. They're getting good pass rush, but the
Purdue quarterback Ryan Brown was pretty sneaky, athletic, big kid,
a little like Gronowski, and the Gophers could not hem
him in. So Minnesota is gonna have to be better
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this kid, Gronowski moves a little better. And then he
kind of made an interesting comment. Knowing that Nebraska is
still on Iowa's schedule. He was asked this week by
reporters and I was city Gronowski. Now, I'm talking, what
do you make of Minnesota with the nine sacks last week?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And how worried are you?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And he said, and I'm paraphrasing, well, the Nebraska quarterback
held onto the ball for so long? He said that, Yes,
that's not exactly word for word, but it was something
along those lines. Paraphrasing, He's like, I think on a
lot of those the Nebraska quarterback probably held the ball
too long. So you got to think that that's bullers
and board material for Black Friday when those two teams play,
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absolutely next your next month, but right here, right now.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So I was a little different. And then Minnesota's a
little different.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
They've got a quarterback that they really like they've been
throwing a little more. Some of that's because they haven't
gotten the run game going until last week in which
they buried Nebraska. Both that, you know, they were pretty
efficient both ways. So I don't know if this is
going to be the typical old fashioned rock fight between
Minnesota and Iowa. It might be, and I'm sure both
teams are going to try to establish the run. I
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was averaging, like, you know, one hundred and ninety yards
on the ground, So they're going to run the football.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, they got this because Caleb Johnson obviously went to
the NFL and tough start for him. Well did you
see that special teams play where the kickoff ball lands
and the landing zone and in all fairness, half of
us NFL fans rules on a year year basis. They're
trying to figure out the new dynamic kickoff. Look at
how dynamic it is, and he let the thing go
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into the end zone for and well it's a live ball.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Wow. So it was a tough moment.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I did that, but I know he had fumbled once
early and some other stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So but they just roll out running backs. His new
cat is a Kamari Moulten. Yeah, maybe he's not new,
but I.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Think he's here. Was their guy at the start of
the year. He got hurt early in their first game.
And then they brought in some other guys Washington, Patterson, Williams,
Williams like came out of nowhere after a Moulten got
hurt early. And so two of those guys have been
injured a little bit. And now they and they have
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a freshman now named McNeil, who was just kind of like,
we got to play, you know, we need a third
running back, just to you know, the spear and the
pair as they like to say, or a pair and
a spare, I should say. So this McNeil has played recently.
So the other two guys that have been injured Patterson
and Williams or not Williams, Patterson and I'm trying to
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now I can't remember off the top of my head
of the other guy had mentioned it earlier. Any Washington, Washington,
thank you. As a guy gets old in my age,
it's hard to recall names. Anyway, those guys are apparently
practicing and they're going to be back. So they've got
five guys that they can rotate through at running back
and again the quarterback can run, so they're gonna run
the ball. They're going to try to run the ball.
They have not thrown for a lot of passing yards.
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Minnesota has not given up a lot of passing yards
against teams that struggle that way. So well, that's what
I was curious.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I've kind of joked about it, and again, I'm not
never going to pretend to be a college football insider
at all, but I remember headlines into the season that
people who were following the Hawk, the Hawk, guys, we
got somebody. We got somebody that can chuck it. And
I think he's a former jack Rabbit. He is former
solid Gronowski. Yea more wins than anybody in the history
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of college football. Well, good for him, but he probably won.
He probably should have stayed a jack Rabbit and they might.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well until that checkut.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You're like, I'm glad I did this, but well they
might need him against NDSU.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
We shall see. That's a bit that's this weekend, right.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, I don't have a dog in the fight, but
just for the heck of it, go Bison that one first, too, right,
I think it is one versus two game of the century.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
In he hasn't thrown for two hundred yards in a game.
Yet he's been under one hundred a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And he didn't even really break out in the run game,
I think until this one against Penn State where he
got loose for a buck thirty.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
He's hard to sack though, So even if he's not
a you know, I don't know how many designed runs.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I do think it's hard in the Big Ten to
have a bunch.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Like if you're going to go in and say we're
going to design twelve runs for a quarterback, I don't
know if a quarterback in the Big Ten is going
to last. You know, it's hard because it's a physical league.
Guys want to be violent, and you know there are
some guys like, look, if you're Lamar Jackson, you might
have eight designed runs and you're elusive and you don't
take that direct hit very often. But Gradowski's a physical
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kind of runner. He's already been taken out of at
least two games with injury, including the Indiana game. If
he doesn't get hurt in the Indiana game, chance probably
probably win the game. Why thinking back and remember watching
that game. So he has been banged up. His knee is.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Has messed up.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I think that was part of the injury, and yet
last week he ran like a deer, like he was
not injured at all. And then he had some sort
of shoulder issue coming off of last year's year with
the jack Rabbits.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I don't think anyone has said anything, so this is
pure speculation on my part. But I wonder if that
shoulder issue isn't impacting some of his throws because he
has come up. I know the complaint there in Iowa
is he is he throws the ball short of where
it should go. Okay, especially outs and different things. It
just the steam isn't there. So I wonder if if
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part of that might be the shoulder. I'm just again
purely speculating, but yeah, they have not thrown for a
lot of yards.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Paris might have some ball hawking opportunities, I hope, so
that would be ideal. I dig that now with uh,
with with this with this team kind of and you
mentioned it, Gophers haven't given up a ton of pass
yards over the course of the season. The one thing though,
we have been gotten on the ground to come different times.
And now I'm just kind of shooting from the lip
but I think it was Perdue who ran for freaking miles.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It was again, So.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'm just kind of I'm thinking about this with with
Molten and kind of that three headed attack that you're mentioning,
combined with a QB that can either extend or at
least find his way via the scramble for eight nine
yards at a time, that would be kind of an
a topic for me.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
For an underdog Gophers team into this game, I think
it'll be a very fascinating what the game plan is.
I don't obviously know what it is. We'll watch it
as an unfolds. I'm sure there'll be adjustments made. But
don't you think the strength of that defense from Minnesota's
is the safeties. The corners have been pretty good. They've
got a corner who's a transfer from Iowa. We'll see
if he plays. He missed last week. John Nest he's
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the leader in interceptions for the Gophers, and say, hey, guys,
they don't throw the ball very well. Their receivers aren't
great at separation. Doesn't mean they can't beat you. Doesn't
mean you know you can just relax, but we're gonna
let you cover and then we're gonna put seven eight
guys in the box and try to control that run game.
And I'm sure if that's the strategy, that's what most
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teams have tried. And Iowa's won five of their seven games,
so they figured out ways to still win. And they
do because their defense is good, their punt games good,
their special teams good. Their return game is remarkably good.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You know, we thought that Cooper Dejene was a great
return man. This guy I think is better. Caden Wigen
is his name. He's averaging over twenty yards kick and
punt returns. You average over twenty yards on a punt return.
He had a ninety five yard punt return for a
touchdown earlier this year, which helps the average certainly. But
that's a guy that if if I'm in charge, my kicker,
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I know, can kick it out of the back of
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'm telling him boot that thing.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
As far as you can live down the band pit,
and then I'm also telling my punter angle that thing
directional it. We're not going to let that kid get
any bonus yards. Because that's how for years Iowa has
kind of won without having great offenses. You forget about
the yards you gain and lose in special teams. Don't
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let people return punts on you, and have a punter
pun at sixty yards every time you're gaining a few,
you know, ten yards twelve yards on the field, and
then have a return guy who can get you in
this case twenty yards of return on punts but on
average all of a sudden, and then don't commit penalties
when the other teams commit eighty yards with the penalties
and all of a sudden in that hidden yardage, Iowa
is a plus a million, you know, over the last
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decade in that And so that's how you can win
games the way they have without.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Having just this explosive, dynamic offense.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Darius Taylor found his legs I think nearly one fifty
on the ground in the win over Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Great is that something.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Can we start to rely upon that again because it's
kind of fun on Monday's getting the chance to hear
from PJ and it's good times and we're pumping it up,
and specifically after that defensive performance on Rayola, the nine sacks,
the whole thing. But this is a team that has
had to win in ways contrary to how PJ typically
would and let's raise Drake lindsay while running two hundred
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a game, right, and let's let's take some pressure off
the kid. Now, Drake mostly has handled those moments when
we've had to air it out quite well. So that's
a good sign for the future. But specifically with Darius
pumped up for him, high end talent, but just hasn't
founded and as a team, you know, he's he's working
from that soft tissue Injy earlier in the year. And
it's easier, boy, I think, but you're having game, You're
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getting out of there with forty four yards rushing, thirty
yards rushing. That is that is the antithesis of flex offense.
But to see that the other night felt good. Can
we start to say, I think we got this. I
think we maybe figured that out. It's good momentum to
work from.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Because they hadn't been very effective in any game other
than the Buffalo game, you know, it was really hard
to know. On the Northwestern State game, that's the game
he injured the hamstring. He had I think like three
carries and twenty yards in that game and he was
headed for a touchdown when the hamstring. I don't know
whether it tore or whatever strained or whatever it was
popped or whatever. Anyway, the injury happened in that game,
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and they really just it just had not been a
great running attack and it was really startling against Purdue.
I mean the Gophers were really I mean that's a
good win given how statistically they got out played in
that game. And it's why every Saturday is you know,
I know the gamblings in the news now, Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know how people can make a
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living betting college sports because every Saturday is so different, right,
and maybe there aren't many people that make a living.
And that's, as the old saying goes, why they build
those big buildings out in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Or wherever they might be. Now.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But even the you know, within the Big Ten, think
about two weeks ago, Minnesota couldn't run the ball, gave
up a bunch of pass and running yards against Purdue.
And Purdue has been putting up good offensive numbers all
year and then they get I think they got shut
out right by by Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah you can find it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
They if not, they didn't score maybe one touchdown, but
their their offense looked awful against Northwestern, and Northwestern isn't
thought to be some juggernaut, although all of a sudden
they're sitting nineteen rip yeah, nineteen rips.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So it's just weird week each week.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Sadly our favorite teams, but I think we've been on
the losing end at Evanston, Yes shut out. Was that
twenty seven nothing or some rainy awful game, two hundred
people in the stands.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
That was twenty seventeen thirty nine nothing? Oh yeah, that
was that was that was bringing up back member this
year Guardian and I will still talk about that. I
sent and I kid you know, I sent a picture
of the band at halftime, and because I'm a band guy,
I like to support the band. So it was at Northwestern,
and this isn't a knock on Northwestern fans, although they aren't,
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you know, the biggest drawing fan base in the Big Tennel.
That's a place where a lot of times the visiting
fans will go in and gobble up tickets because it's
centrally located, so Ohio State, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin fans can
go watch their team in Chicago's a melting pot. There's
a bunch of grads from Minnesota or Ohio State, or Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan,
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Michigan State that live in Chicago, that that's their chance
on the purple line, and out they go and they're
they're at the game anyway. I so I really did
not The intention was not to show how few people.
It really wasn't how few people were in the stands.
So I send a picture out of the band. I'm like, halftime,
you know, halftime, And back then I was doing that.
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I always send out a picture of the band. Started
to go for home games. But back then I was
sending out each everywhere half to hey, halftime entertainment, and
there was there's nobody in the stands, like literally literally,
i'll show you the picture after you can blow it
up and you can count. There's like seventeen people, a
couple of them wearing the orange you know, the orange
deer hunting coats because it's so cold and rainy. And
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and then I had a couple of people like that
had to be like the band practice this morning at
six am. There's zero chance that's live. So they're accusing
me of like trying to stir the pot. So I
take a picture of the third quarter kickoff about three
minutes later. Yeah, and you can see the teams out
there lining up for the kickoff and tweet that out.
I said, here take and somehow one of the Nebraska
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reporters got onto that, and then all these Nebraska fans
pipe in about terrible fans, we're the best, all this stuff. Anyway,
I digress. That's that's the game. Thirty nine nothing, my god,
And yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That was a bad game.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But anyway, Purdue takes it nineteen nothing on the chin.
And my point is it's a week to week proposition
in college sports. If you to watch Minnesota's running attack
against Purdue, and Purdue hadn't been statistically very good against
the run, you would have said there's no way that
they're going to do what they did against Nebraska last Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But yet they did. And so that's why when you
when you're asked, what do you think is going to
happen this weekend? I don't know. I don't know. I
don't know. I would I would guess that PJ.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Fleck and Greg Harbo offensively are going to try to
establish the run. Given the success they had Friday, maybe
they've stumbled onto something. I also think Drake Lindsay worked
really hard getting them into the right run play. I
think for a young quarterback, maybe there's been a couple
of not miscommunications, but checking.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
The wrong short thing or you know.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And I don't know how complicated it gets, and I
know they're putting a lot on his plate, and maybe
there was some misreads on what where to send the run,
where to send the play right left, and I don't know,
one hole, two hole, whatever, short hole, however it goes.
So I think that that was probably a little better
this week. And I do think another week of recovery
for Taylor. He had the pop in his step and
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when he's one hundred percent man, he's really good. So
I think they're going to knock on the door on
that and see can we establish some run and if
they can, they're going to go with that. If they can't,
they have fairly quickly the so far this season abandoned
the run. They did it against Rutgers, they did it
against Purdue, and they just said, all right, we're gonna
we're gonna get into this quick passing game. And sometimes
it is a four yard pass, but it serves as
(22:52):
a hand off. It serves to move the sticks and
so they've got that certainly that bullet in the hole
shirt if they have to try that. But I would
guess they're gonna, you know, kick the tires on the
run game to start and see where it takes them.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So, you know, we've talked a lot about nil and
just kind of state of the Big Ten, just kind
of some global views of the of the conference and
you know, eliminating the divisions, never going to get the
chance to win the West again, and where everyone's staring
up at at Ohio State, Oregon and Michigan. So one
way that you keep people engaged is you win.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Your rivalry games.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, and I think since PJ started seven and one,
I was checking that while you were finishing your last answer.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think he's seven and one against Nebraska. Love that.
How about the AX game.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
He's won three of four against Wisconsin now and frankly
it should be four or five based on what I've
been seeing from Sconnieville thus far in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
But no game is gearing in the twenty twenty game.
That one's still that went the COVID game. The Gopher
should have won that game. Yeah, Yeah, So slip away.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
So with that, with that said, this is the this
is the one on the list. I feel like there's
a fervor around Gophers fans. Yep one in seven against
and I think they're one in nine in their last
ten against Iowa. And overall, I think Farrence is like
nineteen and six or nineteen those seven.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Overall, it is weird how.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You have the number like PJ I think against Purdue
was also like seven and one, and Perdue remember was
pretty good with Jeff Brahmin there absolutely and they got
in the league the same year, and there's always were
some comparisons. So there's got to be further around this game.
There is, Yeah, we need to have the pig more often.
We do really to make it a good rivalry and
Wisconsin people, you know that for a while, that was
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just that was just Remember when the Gophers won it
in twenty eighteen, that was the first time Minnesota had
won it in fifteen years, and we prayed that thing
around the state like it was the Lombardi Trophy, right,
And it was at the State Fair, and it was
at every little gathering, and the Gophers would take it
out on their fundraising trips and the Scanie fans would
would say, geez act like you've been there before, and
(24:55):
I would say, it's been fifteen years, and tell you
when you don't have something and you really want it
and you just don't and you finally get it, you're
going to celebrate it. And I think the Wisconsin fans
understand it a little more now that they haven't won
it each year, like it stings when you don't have it.
But Minnesota's pretty lucky. They've got, you know, three of
the great rivalry trophies in all of football. Right You've
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got the Acts, You've got the Pig, and you've got
the Jug. The jug is literally the oldest sports trophy, yes,
in America, right n three.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
We could use that more often.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You said, we don't play them that much, but you
know that, as you mentioned, when you're in this Big
ten and the way it stacks up with everything, that's
a hard, harder game to win than your I would
consider in terms of level of competition, class, you know,
the the you know class one, A, two A, three A,
four A, if you want to do it like high schools,
I think Minnesota to be in the same class as Wisconsin, Iowa,
(25:49):
and Nebraska. So you want to win those rivalry games
for sure, and occasionally you can you know, wait up
and punch above your weight, as they say, and you
hope to win that jug sometimes. I think twenty fourteen
was the last time, but they've only played you know,
they only played once every three years now, the way
the things set up anyway, Yes, I in fact, I
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looked this up in researching the game a little, you know,
getting rolling on the boards last night at Kinnick Stadium.
Minnesota's three and nineteen in their last twenty two. So
it's hard. I mean that that Iowa program has been
pretty steady. There's been some dips for Minnesota in that stretch.
And you think three and nineteen in their last twenty two,
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so that's twenty two games. That's not twenty two years.
It's for you play every other year, twenty two at Kinnick.
That goes back to the eighties, right mid eighties. So
i always had some good run in there. Minnesota's had
a few dips, and then when the teams have been
relatively even, Minnesota has not had as much luck either.
So it's time. We said last time it was time,
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and they got it down there, and what you say
it was like a seven point seven point spread.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Is that what you said?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well, I saw I think it's at eight eight. Okay, yeah,
so you're an underdog, you got nothing to lose. Let's
go down there and bring that to Floyda Rosedale back.
It's a great trophy.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
There we go. You know, it's a great trophy, and
it does add to the game. It just does.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
There's just an aspect of you wait to see who wins,
and then you know, whatever winning team charges to go
get the trophy, the axe, whatever it is, the pig.
There is just something about a rivalry game that includes
a trophy, and especially the older ones. Right now, they've
come up with some you know, the Governor's victory bell
with Penn State. I remember when the Gophers beat Penn
(27:36):
State in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It wasn't until like two days later.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
That somebody said, you never mentioned the victory bell in
the call, and I'm like, I forgot the thing even existed. Sorry,
you know, I mean, that just isn't in the top
of your mind. I think Iowa and Wisconsin like, hell.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You guys are too busy storm in the field.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, way exactly. Daryl was lighting up a victory cigar
in the radio booth. Literally he was. And I don't
blame but the Iowa Wisconsin created like that I'm going
to say fifteen years ago maybe in their.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Rivalry, and that's a good rivalry. That's a border battle
as well.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Sure the Heartland Trophy and it's a cow, okay, and
you know it from from Wisconsin, I'm sure they think
it's a dairy cow, and from Iowa they probably think
it's a beef cow or.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
What have you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
But for a beef myself, it isn't. There just isn't.
And maybe it's because I'm not part of that on
either side, but it seems to me that it's it
almost seems gimmicky because it was created recently, right just
as a just as a where you know, these things
like the jug is nineteen oh three, I don't remember
how far back. I think nineteen thirty six for the Floyd.
(28:44):
The first Floyd was a real pig live. The two
governors bet a real pig on the game, and so
I think it's like the mid thirties when that started.
And then they said, well, we can't do a live
pig every year, so let's let's bronze a pig. It's
ninety eight pounds, and here we are playing for it
every year.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Well, I'm scrambling to find when the pig first started.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I think it's the I think it's the mid thirties.
And it was a real pig from Rosedale Farms down
in like Fort Dodge, Iowa. And and the winning governor
got to I don't know what he did. I guess
he would butcher the pig. Well, I'm just I'm scrambling
via Wikipedia. President so FDR's former son in law Curtis Dahl,
(29:26):
who attended the nineteen thirty five game as a guest
to the governors, et cetera, et cetera. Well, the rivalry
was so heated, it had gotten to be heated, and
I think they sent somebody from the White House to say, hey,
we got to be calmer here. And as a peace offering,
the governors of both states decided, I mean, I think
(29:46):
this is the history behind it, decided let's distract people
from being mad at each other. And we're and and
we're going to bet a pig. And I'm like, well, yeah,
that that will really that will really calm calm people.
Now you've put more at stake on the game that
was that night.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Team thirty five, Floyd Olson and Clyde Herring. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
well go go for crazy. I appreciate it and sad news.
I know you're a Kiss fan, Ace Freely. It sounded
like complications from a fall. I think two falls is
to twice in seventy four.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What a life?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I mean, you know when you think about Hey and
it's like kind of like that commercial whatever the workforce
or work there or whatever where it's like you're a
rock star, No, you're a rock star. Well, these guys
are real life rock stars. Ace Freely was a real
life rock star, you know when he when they reunited
in the mid nineties, and you know, it's the same concert.
Kiss has put on the same concert for forty years.
(30:40):
Paul Stanley talks about it. He's like, if we don't
put that concert on, people get mad. They don't want
to hear new Kiss songs. They want to hear the
Kiss songs that they and they want to see Gene
split Blood and they want to see him, you know,
throw a fireball, and they want to see him. They
want to see Paul fly out into the crowd and
sing love gun and they want to see Ace Freely
shoot out of the end of his guitar. Yeah, fake
(31:02):
bullets that then they're firecrackers across the way that make
it look like his guitar shooting. And that's my memory
of Ace Freely is in those when they reunited and
he would they had those sound effects with firecrackers and
it looked like he was shooting bullets out of his guitar.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh, hey, thanks for hanging out in the studio with
to see you.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Let's get a pig this weekend. Let's get the pig.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's Mike Grim, voice of Gophers football again. Two thirty
pm ish kickoff on Saturday at Chinnick. You get to
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Gophers on Saturday, but before we ever get there, let's
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Minnesota Vikings underdogs themselves at SOFI Stadium against the Chargers
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ten thirty at eleven AM, Mix of Fantasy and Reality
with Paul Charcion and eleven twenty five. Alex Lewis is
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going to join as well. In the meantime, whether it's
insane news coming out of the NBA and the FBI
with gambling allegations. We got some Vikes Bites around the corner.
Are we going to have our two starting tackles tonight?
Wild last night? Wolves in the opener last night, some
busy fodder throughout the remainder of the first hour with
Brett Blakemore here producing Omnordo and let's do a cash
(32:27):
giveaway and get caught up on the clock.
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Speaker 2 (32:39):
Keyword bills.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Vikes Bites lost four to one last night in their
road trip finale at the New Jersey Devils. They're coming
home for six. Meanwhile, the Howell won their opener last night.
Tough night, by the way for Chauncey. Billups here at
least in the last I'd say sixteen eighteen hours, however long.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I wonder if you knew the FBI was going to
be at.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
His doorstep this morning as as he was taken into
custody along with Miami Heat player Terry Rosier. They were
arrested yesterday as part of a pair of investigations.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
This is per ESPN.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Related to illegal gambling, and so Rogier was arrested let
me see here this morning at a hotel in Orlando,
and then Billups he was arrested in Oregon as part
of a separate but related illegal gambling case linked to
an illegal poker operation tied to the mafia.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
My goodness. Let me see.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Former Cleveland CALVS player and assistant coach Damon Jones was
arrested as part of providing let me see, providing inside
information about NBA games to code defendants.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And you found some audio.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Cash Betel, of course, director of the FBI, spoke to
the media, I think around forty minutes ago, and I
think you found like a ninety second clip of him
just kind of summing up exactly what's going on where
this is a massive, massive story connecting the mafia and
sports gambling.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Let's hear from Cash.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
To announce a historic arrest across a wide, sweeping criminal
enterprise that envelops both the NBA.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And Lakasa Nostra.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
The men and women up here standing with me represent
a small portion of the leadership team that brought profound
justice in an era that needed it more than any
I'll just highlight some of some of the details in
the case and the FBI work, and then you'll hear
from the others. But as you now know, individuals such
as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier were taking
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into custody today former current NBA players and coaches. What
you don't know is that this is an illegal gambling
operation and sports rigging operation that spanned the course of years.
The FBI led a coordinative takedown across eleven states to
arrest over thirty individuals today responsible for this case, which
(34:56):
is very much ongoing. Not only did we crack into
the fraud that these perpetrators committed on the grand stage
of the NBA, but we also entered and executed a
system of justice against La Casinostra to include the Bonano, Gambino,
Genevesi and Luchase crime families, and you'll hear more about
(35:20):
those details today. The charges and the arrests that were
taken down across this country range from wire fraud, money laundering, extortion, robbery,
illegal gambling. This FBI will leave no room for any
perpetrator of crime across this country. You hear a lot
about our work of defending the homeland and crushing violent crime. Well,
this work is also representative of a colossal portion of
(35:43):
the FBI's mandate to keep America safe and to keep
our entertainment industry fair and secure.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
All Right, we're good on that. Brett.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Thirty individuals, eleven states, multiple years, and we've heard a
few again. Chauncey Billups, Damon Terry Rozier are the three
names that we've heard many more to come out connection
to the mob. Brett, how about that, I've always just
in casual conversation. I mean, there's an allure whether you
(36:13):
watch The Godfather or Goodfellas, there's kind of a you know,
Sopranos and d hof TV show that that is there's
kind of an allure as an outsider like that that
mob life in the way it's portrayed in media. However,
I mean, I'm just just a dumb ass kid from
man Cato, Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I don't know about the mafia, but.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
You read you read stories, you watch documentaries and all
those things. But I've always kind of wondered through the technology,
through the technological age, how has the mafia evolved? And
nowadays I'm just kind of picturing like they're those they
got bot farms running like tele you know, cell phone
scams and internet bits, like they've been finding different ways
(36:55):
to take advantage of it, and thinking when it comes
to like sports betting and sports gambling, throwing games and
things like that. Point shaving. I forget who the Arizona
State player was back in the day. That was a
huge story, but just kind of the idea at some point,
as athletes begun to make so much money, there's so
much money in professional sports, and in talking about the
(37:19):
nil era, there's some money in college sports too. You're
thinking of like Johntay Porter, you heard it, you know,
he's he's running his own props and maybe he makes
one hundred grand off of that and sacrifices his entire
NBA career. This is just insanity where Jouncey Billip I
can only assume It's not like I'm looking at his
bank account here tens of millions of dollars over the
(37:41):
course of his career.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
He's the head coach of a freaking NBA team.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Now, it's not you know, people can be leaned on
and if there are gambling debts or there's leverage that
is imposed and things over the course of time. You know,
these individuals when they want to make that cash, they
can be pretty relentless. I get it, But how do
you get yourself in that spot? I mean, these people
aren't making pennies here. I mean you think about what
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you know a couple hundred grand would do to your life,
for my life, et cetera. I mean, these guys have
been in the top point one percent for a very
long time, and even they are potentially at risk of
being captured by organized crime.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
This is craziness, man, the FBI.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
This comes from senior ESPN writer Dan Wetzel. The two
operations in the two cases in the gambling probe are
named Operation Nothing But Debt and Operation Royal Flush.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's brilliant. I don't know if that's satire or not,
but I'm running with it.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
That's probably part of I mean, you know, the ability
to investigate and potentially bring down these things.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
There has to be a rush.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I mean, just the you know when you put something,
when you put a group of guys together and gals
in a room and it's like, all right, we're going
after these guys. There's got to be some excitements and motivation.
It's naming the operation. It's got to be kind of fun. Yeah,
part of it, I should say, still very early in
terms of who the other names are and exactly the
(39:07):
implications of some of what's going on, but certainly massive news,
and it appears at this stage MBA focused interested again
as more names and more information comes out exactly where
things are headed with this thing. But wow, huge huge
betting connection between the mafia, Chelncey, Billups what just crazy,
(39:28):
crazy news coming out earlier this morning, and we'll try
to keep posted on it as new stuff pops up.
When we return, well, we'll do some Vikes bites and
catch up on the clock and then again Pa, he's
in LA and we'll talk about Vikes at so fa
tonight against the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
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Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, good advice, absolutely, Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (40:15):
I can't help it.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I just keep refreshing social and just waiting for more
names and such. With this NBA betting, you got billups
and some poker rigging bit man, it's kind of weird.
It's I don't know, I shouldn't be attracted to bad
news the way that I am sometimes, but once you
hear something like this, it just kind of shocks you
(40:35):
and you just want to kind of become obsessed with it.
But Minnesota Vikings looking for good news tonight at so
Far facing the Los Angeles Chargers. If everything goes according
to rhythm, should be a w right win loss win, loss,
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Speaker 2 (41:16):
Where are we headed to, Brett?
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Yeah, I'm scrolling Twitter just to make sure that Benny,
the Bowl and the Sun's guerrillas okay and have not
been taking into custody.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I think Crunch is fine. We'll go here. Bikes Bites.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
You have to start with the QB and I'm putting
together the Common Man montage at the same time as
running the show Full Disclosure, And I was just listening
to Koc say, this is a Sunday game. Maybe would
have pushed JJ and maybe would have been okay to go,
but just because it's a Thursday, we didn't feel comfortable
pushing him. So Carson Wentz is your starter? Where's your
gauge on the urgency meter that Wentz is starting tonight.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Well, I mean urgency in terms of getting the victory.
I admittedly following the Eagles game as frustrating as I was,
as frustrated as I was with the regression that we saw. Again,
you know a lot of I've joked about the seven
oh one's, the seven oh one area codes popping into
the text message machine about Carson, you know, and D
and D's fine is Carson Wentz Bismarck, the love of Bismarck,
(42:11):
go buys in against South Dakota State. I have no
I mean, I think it's I think they have a
trophy and it's like a giant rock or something like that.
But but no, I have no I have no dog
in the fight. Hopefully it's a great game number one,
number two, that's super cool. But but to that end,
massive regression. He was inaccurate, as inaccurate as we've seen him.
(42:31):
How much is the shoulder hurting him?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
But I never had any any feeling that that JJ
was going to return tonight against the Chargers. So in
terms of UH, in terms of Carson playing, I'm not
surprised by it.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
The way that you led into it.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Though with if it may have been as if it
was a Sunday game, the conversation could be different. Around McCarthy,
I think it's just the same conversation. When he's healthy,
he's going to play and so and I think that's
regardless of how Carson performs tonight. I want him to
throw four hundred and four against the against the Chargers
this evening and just get some runaway w that'd be sweet.
(43:07):
And I'm rooting for Carson, but but I just I
just think that that JJ around the corner. When he's healthy,
he's he's absolutely gonna play. Text message, what Regression Wentz
is who he is? Text message is six four six
eighty six. I always appreciated, but I got this text
what Regression Wentz is who he is? That was as
bad a game with the opportunities presented as I've seen
(43:28):
from Carson Wentz. You have to factor in that shoulder injury,
potentially something else that we're not aware of. You can
talk about ribs, he can talk about a hip, whatever
it is. He's been getting just blasted and he keeps
getting up. But it was ugly on Sunday. Needs to
be less so this.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Evening bikes bites, bikes, bikes.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
The other big talker is the tackle situation on both
sides of the line, most importantly CD of course significant soreness.
It would be a huge, massive concern if not either
one of them could play. I'm just I would be
very worried if neither one of them go for the
Viking side because that CD. I mean when he was
out earlier on and then when he came back, it
(44:10):
was night and day different when Darisaw was in compared
to worrying is out. So you got to hope that
he at least gets some sort of snaps tonight.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
This is this is worrisome, not so much. I mean
it's it's worrisome if O'Neil doesn't play. Was less surprised
though throughout the week he saw limited and limited and
such in terms of him making his return making all
the snaps.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
This one's a little weird.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
You get the bye week, he's on the he's on
the pitch count, and then okay, we can just kind
of wash our hands of the idea of ramping him up.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
We're just gonna plug him in at left tackle.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But I think whether it was Ian Rappaport this morning,
and just kind of seeing the way that the the
injury report played out with the final one going yesterday
and seeing him as questionable and seeing him apparently having
pain in that knee.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
This is problematic, man.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
And and not that the I mean Khalil Mack is
not what he used to be, so I mean and
I don't want to give him an opportunity against Justin's
School to find the days of old, certainly, but this
team can get after you a little bit, and it
is incredibly worrisome and potentially a problem if neither of
them go. So now you think about Justin's School, you
(45:17):
got Walter Rouse in the mix, you're already kind of
wondering what Kevin O'Connell has up his sleeve in terms
of the center spot. Not that he was vague or ambiguous,
just kind of we're going to see who's the best
now that Michael Jurgens has returned to the fold and
practicing in full and Brandell frankly did not have a
good game. His second game at center was not as
good as his first in London. So potentially musical chairs
(45:41):
again with this group, you know, you might have a
justin school. On one side, does Brandell come out and
play tackle.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Or are you using Walter Rouse.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm just so exhausted having these offensive line combination conversations.
And in the end, I think we've had fifteen different
combos through six games. Sounds like it could be sixteen
potentially tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Fikes Bikes got one more in you I do as
I roll back, So I'm like, what do you think
of the Chargers? Where's your meter on them?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Because they started off red hot, they spanked the Chiefs
in week one, they looked very good. They're three and zero.
They've lost three of their last four, including to the Giants,
to the Commanders, to the Colts.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Not very good losses.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
And the only team they've beaten the last four was
the Dolphins, who are just a dumpster fire. But Herbert
is very good and Harbaugh is, for the most part
a good coach. Where's your temperature at with the Chargers?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, my temperature at and well we'll talk more about
this right around the corner with the host but in
the end, with Aaron Jones potentially returning to the lineup,
if we can establish the run, the Chargers have allowed
a buck forty a game over the last five in
which they are I believe two and three in that stretch,
and you mentioned they've lost three the last four. They
also cannot run the ball right now, and I'm still
(46:56):
trying to figure out exactly is it Vidal Sassoon, oh
Kamadi Vedal is there? Starting running back Hassan Haskins. I
don't know if he's out in this game or if
he's questionable. But O'marion Hampton, the rookie tar Heel and
then and then Najie Harris both not part of this equation.
Naji the whole year, Amarion Hampton at least the next month.
(47:16):
So uh, they can't run the ball, which has led
Herbert now to I believe leading the NFL in passing yards.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
So this is a very gettable team.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
But the way that Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Got us on Sunday was was with deep passes and
second chance opportunities where he buys himself a couple extra
seconds and then aj Brown and DeVante Smith are open
down the field. Similarly, tonight, you're worried about Keenan Allen,
who always has career games against us. You're worried about
Lad McConkie, a terrific young start to start to his
young career. And then and then gwenton Johnston, and they
(47:47):
might be that's their big play guy, their deep threat
down the field, if they're able to extend it down
the field the way that the Eagles were.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
In just a handful of plays against the Purple.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Uh, We're we're gonna be uh, We're gonna be having
some tough, some tough texts and talkbacks during fan line
tonight so that that can't be the way it was
against the Birds. That's Vikes Bites, Thank you, Brett, brought
to you by Thousand Hills. When we return, we'll check
in with Pa who's in Los Angeles, get his thoughts
on the health situation with the old line, the QB,
and just how we beat the Bolts tonight mission beat
(48:20):
the Bolts at so far. We'll continue this into the
second hour. It's Nordo in for Pa, but with Pa
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