November 23, 2025 • 43 mins
Dan is back giving the sermons ahead of Week 12 of the NFL kicking off, he discusses the state of Gopher football and the impending Border Battle with the Packers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quite an eventful weekend, and we still have the border
battle yet to come. High noon, right here on the
fan Vikings and Packers one hour edition of Sunday Sermons
Barrero and Blake Moore until ten, and of course Vikings
Football Sunday takes over at the top of the hour.
(00:21):
I'm looking at some Texas came in during the parentis
Spare podcast?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No wait, that's a podcast, go for Football Sunday.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Can you comment on how hard it is to recruit
to Minneapolis against places like Iowa City, Ames, Bloomington, Indiana,
Champagne or Banna, Not to mention Fargo, give PJ time
to work those nil numbers. That is he saying that sarcastically?
It sounds like that sarcasm. Is that satire or is
he being serious? I'm trying to figure that out. Uh
like Ames nine five two? Guy, Well, I mean, you
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can make the argument that big city isn't necessarily an
advantage when you have some really nice campus towns, you know,
you think of in terms of university towns. But I'm
assuming there's some sarcasm there. We will get to the Gophers.
(01:15):
You know. It's interesting because I through much of the
game at the point where the Gophers built a I
think it was a twenty eight to thirteen lead. I'm
thinking to myself, the story of this game is all
as well in Gopher Land again, because the team has
returned to its element. In other words, you're playing a
mediocre team. And as long as we're playing mediocre teams.
(01:39):
Somebody said it was it on the broadcast Big ten
network or was it on the pregame show, and it
was meant as a compliment, But for me, it's the
ultimate indictment. PJ beats the teams he's supposed to beat,
and that's fine as far as it goes. But it
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also if that's the headline, then, as we've talked about
many times before, your ceiling is not very ambitious. And
it felt to me like, okay, after you know, on
the road, playing three good to very good teams and
getting killed on all those things, those on all those occasions,
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they're back in their element where, oh, yeah, we can
beat Northwest, we can beat these guys. That's how it
felt to twenty eight to thirteen. Unfortunately, the Gopher defense
had something else to say about that, and the Northwestern offense, which,
by the way, this might surprise you based on what
you saw yesterday if you watched, but we were reminded
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that going into a game in which it scored thirty
eight points and in the second half had drives of
seventy nine, seventy, seventy and fifty nine, the Northwestern passing
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offense ranked one hundred and eighteenth nationally, one hundred and
tenth in scoring offense, and one hundred and sixth.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
In total offense.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That's the rather scathing indictment of the current condition of
coaching and executing when it comes to defensive side of
the ball for your Golden Gophers. We will get in
a more Gopher conversation in a bit border battle coming
up as well. You're in Minnesota, wild? Are we now?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Officially? Are we at the hottest team in hockey? May
as well?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We have to be pretty close at this point, right.
We got another shutout? Was that Friday night?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think so wasn't even close? Five nil?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Score first again, that's all we do is score first,
and they never scored.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Our league leading. Is it fifth shutout or fourth? It's
one or the other.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But we are on a shutout roll a goaltending role,
it's all. It's seemingly coming together, as we discussed with
Bill gharrin late in the week as well. And meanwhile,
the Minnesota Timber has had one of their worst late
game collapses in the history of the franchise, which indeed
is saying something against the I believe the opponent was the.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think it was the Phoenix Suns on that occasion.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And eight point lead fifty seconds to go, that's hard
to do.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
They end up losing the game. They even get it
to overtime.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They lose the game in regulation, a couple of bad
turnovers down the stretch, ant misses, a couple of free throws.
How was your game experience, by the way, you went
to see them play?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Who the Wizards? Oh the Wizards? That's yeah, Yeah, it
was pretty much over yeah as it started. Yeah, that's
that's very true. Fun though, Yeah, that's okay. You had
a good time.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm sure you did. So all those are going to
be on the table.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
The branch on Bent Bryan Cafe in text line is
open at six four six, eight six, whichever direction you
would like to to go in. Somebody's writing with PJA
can beat Wisconsin all is forgiven. I'm not sure All's
going to be forgiven. But I'll tell you what, man,
I watched a little bit at Wisconsin Illinois game. Badgers
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are feeling pretty good, but they remind me a little bit.
It's a little bit like the Penn State story in
that the Penn State season disaster coach gets fired and
it's like, now they're almost playing with house money, where
we got nothing to lose, Let's just try to salvage something.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Let's have some fun.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And last night they did it at the expense of
the Nebraska Cornhuskers. As we continue, as the Gopher's victory
over Nebraska continues to be devalued week after week.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Uh, And I.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Feel it's the same with Wisconsin right Their season has
been a mess from the start, uh, people leaving early
at Camp Randall, the whole bit. And what they have
discovered is they've got they've got a legitimate defense, and
they're getting a little more offense at this point and
they dominated. They ended up winning going away against Brett
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Bilima and the University of Illinois. So I'd be very
wary if I were a Gopher fan of this this game,
because you'd you'd like to think a team with Wisconsin's
record that last week, even as a in a rivalry game,
is so beaten down that they're they're not gonna be
a factor. No, they're kind of I think, feeling their
oats a little bit, saying, okay, let's we're maybe we're
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maybe we're we're picking up the scent a little bit.
Maybe we got something we can carry it to next season.
So I wouldn't sleep on this game next Saturday at
at the original bank Huntington Bank Stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Did you see the heart breaking development on the text line? No,
rose bul guy? Oh, he sends in Dan and blakemore.
You aren't going to believe this, but I'm not going
to defend PJ after yesterday's loss.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh I see it now, you're right. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Blowing another lead after going down early yet again is
emblematic of a bigger problem in succession on HBO refuses
to pass CEO role because the son he's not a killer.
You got to be a killer, which I've been fearing
is the case with PJ and what's holding us back.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
As a program. We're taking the next step. Rose Bul guy,
what's happening. That's shocking. He's turning.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
He's undoubtedly brought our program to a place of stable,
consistent success, but his lack of aggressive, attacking boot on
the throat's mentality is infuriating. But then he goes on
to say he's earned the right to show us he's
capable of changing things, but has to start with him.
And then in PJ and Drake we trust and better
dead than Red. Well, certainly, certainly Drake was not the
problem yesterday. He threw very well. But the defense, as we.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Said, was a was a completely different different story. You know,
on this program when it comes to players under siege,
teams under siege, the cliche that I've invoked many times
before that I think applies again today as it pertains
to Border Battle, Vikings and Packers is that the players.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Always have the last word.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And to that extent, this is fairly simple equation the
way it works week to week in the National Football League,
where you can go from you know, from cataclysmic to
exuberant in the.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Blank of an eye.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Literally one game if the Vikings, no matter what it
doesn't guarantee regarding the Vikings playoff chances, if the Vikings
go to Lamba today and win the game, it will
there will be a great d joy and exuberance. It'll
be I'm not going to look beyond this game. I'm
just gonna look for we want it. We weren't supposed
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to win it. Everybody's down in the club. Everybody's down
on the quarterback. And even if I love the quarterback,
I'm starting to get a little bit worried about the quarterback.
It's all takes is one professional performance from JJ McCarthy
to at least ease a lot of the angst and
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the frustration.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's what has to happen. At some point.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You have to have one, and then two and then
a series of performances that take the heat off a
little bit. So no matter what's been I mean, there
is no quarterback in terms of mechanics is mechanics. I
don't remember a single quarterback who has been analyzed nationally,
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forget locally, with the intensity that JJ.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
McCarthy has been analyzed.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And none of that matters if he goes to Lambeau
today and plays a good to very good ballgame.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
How do we define good to very good?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, I guess probably more consistent, less error prone, and
even one would say perhaps a little more accurate. You know,
one of his there's a million metaphors and similes out
there right now regarding what has to change with his
either his mechanics or his style, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
One of I think JJ's was.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Will you find the one where he talks about the
cork we're really close to the cork being.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Exploding off the bottle.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't remember the term that he used for, but
see if you can find it, either online or we
don't have to have the audio necessarily, And I would
my gentle comeback would be no, the problem is the
cork to height.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You gotta loosen the cork a little bit. The idea that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know, we're just so close, and then once that
cork's off the bottle, you know, God knows what defenses
aren't gonna be.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
They're gonna be crying uncle.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I think there's too much pressure, you know, want that
that cork to explode.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Off the bottle. That's I think kind of what's been happening.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Everything just needs to be calmer, everything needs to be
a little looser.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Did you find the core quote? Here's the quote I
feel like for me. This is the quote I feel
like for me. I kind of make an analogy of
just you know, a cork about to come off a bottle. Yeah,
just understanding that it's gonna make this Whoever wrote this
article put all of his ums and ah's and it
makes me really hard to read. Uh, Just understanding that
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one of those little things I need to change about
my game is going to make a huge difference in
the outcome of every single drive. So yeah, I feel
like it's really close. It all comes down to consistency
and fundamentals and the little detail.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
There's too much.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I don't think if the court comes off the bottle
the wrong way, they're like, there's too much pressure building.
I think at that point, you've got cats and dogs
living together. You've got a mess on your hands. I
don't think you want that. I think there's too much
pressure right now. And again, I feel like the best
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way the head coach can help is safe play after
safe play after safe play. It's not very sexy, it's
not very ambitious. And by the way, when I say
safe play doesn't have to be just runs, it could
be passes. On the other hand, if even on short throws,
McCarthy's gonna be as inaccurate as he has been or
as inconsistent as he's been then I'm not sure there's
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any coordinator or any play caller that's going to be
able to fix that. Do we know who's in and
who's out for you in terms of your lengthy injury
report Green Bay Packers wise, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I think Matthew Oldham is trending in the wrong way,
and it sounds like Josh Jacobs is going to be
just game time. We'll find out at ten thirty if
he's active and we'll go from there. So but for
the most part, I think everyone's in, but Jacobs is
the big one.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Body base balance baby Steps that's from Hugo gos Wolves
and five body base balance baby Steps. Brosemer, Yeah, that's
pretty much it. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what you're
kind of looking for now. It doesn't hurt because I
know part of the Salisbury theory is, you know, he
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thinks that they're throwing too much stuff at him in
terms of all the cliches to explain his fundamentals being off,
and there's mind is too cluttered during the week and
they got to sort of let they got to clear
some of that clutter out and it's almost like all right, kid,
just we're gonna just there's a lotch of flame a
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little bit. Now, the danger of that is that could
mean five interceptions and a half. So that sounds better
in theory, but I think let's face it a.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Let's just say that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Let's just say for the sake of argument, the first
time the Vikings get the ball on first down, it's
play action fifty seven yards down the field for JJ Jefferson.
That's the kind of play that can also take the
pressure off where you say everything doesn't get fixed on
the basis that one play, but it feels better. Everybody
goes can take a little bit of a deep breath.
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So as much as I'm saying conservative, conservative, safe throw,
check down, don't don't apologize for a two yard pass
that Aaron Jones can turn into a nine or eleven
yard play. Every once in a while, what can really
take the pressure off is just a nice big play
that is well defended, as in well protected, and then
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the quarterback makes a nice read. Maybe you didn't even know,
I mean that's the wrong. Maybe you don't even want
to make a read. Here's where you're going to on
this play. We don't care what you see. You fling
it receiver makes a good play or the ball is
actually accurate.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's part of what you're what you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Where's the other text I wanted to get to before
first pause here? Cork popping can be dangerous or take
an eye out, very good call to see you need to.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Ease it off.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I'm not a big, you know, wine guy, cork guy anyway,
so I don't know. I don't have a lot of
experience in that regard. But we'll leave that to others
who have maybe a better idea. All right, let's get
a first pause in more Vikings packers to discuss a
little more NFL to get to, and that's going to
be a mix the rest of the way of the
Wild the Wolves.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And the beleaguered Gophers.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Who found a way to lose in a game in
which on the road down early ten to nil, they
had built a twenty eight to thirteen lead and didn't
even come close holding on to its states.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
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Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, that's not helpful to your favorite club. Did you
tell me you expect Jacobs to play?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I think they're leaving it up to game time.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Okay, so I very I'm gonna have to wait until
you in actives come out, gotcha. But they did call
up some for the practice squad, I believe, so there's
doubt for sure, but they're leaving it up until the
last time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, all right, fair enough, And the weather again looks favorable.
I think same as here. Right, relatively balmy for late
November and no presep so the conditions should not be
a big issue.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't know how your field is.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Do you guys do some Do you guys cheat on
your field to try to mess with the opposition?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know. It's funny. It seems like the only
team slipping is the opponents. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Got to get the right spikes. Yeah, well that's that
might that might have something to do with it. Brat
Shawn Bryan Cafe in text line is open at six
four six eight six. Jeff from Richfield. I have no
evidence to back this up, so take it with a
grain of salt. But I think we're using too much,
too much play action. JJ has seemed more comfortable when
he's just executes a normal pass. Play either five step
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dropper from shotgun made great place to finish the game
last week. There was no play action involved as quick passes.
Play action makes him turn his back to the routes
developing downfield in this process. Isn't there yet It's not
a bad point. Eventually, there's too much lost if you
do not have the court, in my opinion, over the
course of a long season of course of a quarterback's career,
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to keep him in the shotgun the whole time, or
to move away from play action. But if you are
acknowledging the obvious, which is he's not ready to be
handed the keys as early as we thought he was,
but we're still handing in the keys because we have
no choice. Then until you get to more offseasons and
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have chances to work longer and more repetitively with all
those fundamental issues base balance, Brozemer, the whole bit, then
you do try within it in stretches of a game,
I think to simplify as much as possible, and maybe
there could be some help there. Ultimately, it's like playing
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the position with one well. I think, in fact that
quote's been used that he's right now playing the position
with one hand tied behind his back because of poor fundamentals.
But you have to be able to play action. You
have to, especially in this kind of offense. You have
to be at the line of scrimmage, and you have
to be able to learn defense even as you have
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to turn your back. You know, that's what the best
quarterbacks do, and in fact, it is fair that part
of the evaluation process that gets in the way is
a lot of college quarterbacks are not accustomed to that,
and so either they're never going to be capable of
making the switch, or it is going to take them
some time, because it's an art that must be mastered,
and very few of them do. From the beginning the
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old I'm not being able to see the defense the
whole time as I would be in the shotgun.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You guys, how much shotgun do you? Guys? Do?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I don't even remember quite a bit you do? I mean,
you got him at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You have Jordan.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's under center, too, don't you. Yeah, they do they
I'd say they do an equal bit of both. Probably
a little too much running out of the shotgun for
a lot of people's taste, but.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't always love that either,
especially in short yardage situations.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
The only reason to watch the Purple at this point
is to evaluate McCarthy. But if when he finally becomes watchable,
I'm just gonna have to put up with Koc's unwatchable
play calling, not doing the kid any favors. What's the
point Dan McCarthy meditated run game overrated?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Thank god, I'm medicated. That's whim flan.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Well, yeah, we're perilously close to that being the only
reason to watch, right, And maybe again, it takes the
pressure off at that point. You don't have to quite
obsessed to the same level about each result each week.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If you go, well, we're this is a gap year.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
We didn't intend it to be a gap year, but
it's turning into a gap year. So now it's get
him out there, try to find the sorts of plays
that work for him that he's most comfortable with then
occasionally try to mix in some stuff that's harder but
that he's going to have to master, and we'll just
see it. By the end of the season, we get
a better read on his future whether he has a
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future at the position. Because let's face it, no matter
what the Vikings and McCarthy say, the evaluation is constant.
So even if they say this is our guy, we
stand behind our guy.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
The truth is you're evaluating as you go.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
So how many games we have left, seven games less season,
whatever it.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Is, Seattle, Washington, Dallas, New York, Detroit, Green.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Bay, Okay, So the rest of the season, it's you're evaluating.
And if at the end of the season you have
all those offseason, you have all those opportunities to have
those meetings, and you go, gentlemen, or we're convening to
talk about something we don't want to talk about and
we never thought we'd have to talk about. Can we,
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with a straight face go forward under the belief that
JJ McCarthy can be our starting quarterback again next season
without competition, just as the guy did. We see enough.
That's what this evaluation is all about. And what I'm
saying is there are times where teams go. I know
what we said publicly. I know we thought, we believed,
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but we've got too big of a gap here, and
we can't afford another gap year because we're not convinced
that maybe all the things we thought we projected in
him he's capable of doing now it can also go
the other way. That's what I like, That's what I
saw on tape in college. That's what we thought could
get better. Then you have your answer, because I know
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for a lot of people it's well, just bring in
at the very least, you're gonna have to bring in
another option to compete for the job. I doubt the
Vikings are going to do it that way. They may
be interested in trying to get a more established backup
veteran quarterback than they had starting this season or before
they ended up, you know, switching off from Howell and
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going to uh to Wentz. But I I will still
be surprised. It's it's just the way. It's not just
the Vikings, it's it's the way it tends to work
in the league. We go, well, no, if we still
see enough, we think he's the guy. We're not turning
it into a competition. We're still going to play it
out like he is our number one quarterback, So indeed
we uh we can. We'll see all of that. Which
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number will be higher today, writes Clayton from Rochester. JJ
completions or gerb Schmidt beers drank? Would it be beers
drank or beers drunk? What would be the proper usage there?
Gerschmidt beers drunk, drink drank drunk? I'm not sure somebody
would be. We have linguists, grammarians who listened to the
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program who'll be able to answer.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That drunk is what he will be after the first
That's true.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's a very good point. It might be before then.
Tom from Savage, I'm re training my neurological pathways to
look forward to the draft. Very well played bottom of
the hour, get some wild conversation going see what Blakemore
saw in our most recent shutout.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's what we do. We shut teams out.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Now we suddenly become a defensive juggernaut between goaltending and
the play in front of whoever is in net for us.
Wolves collapse in Phoenix. Not a good finish at all,
and we'll get to some gopher conversation as well. The
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proper grammar McCarthy. No, that's not the one I'm looking
for already. Yeah, No, it is proper grammer McCarthy. Completions
are how many beer rescripshon will drink? Drunk is an
adjective describing one's condition. Drank as a verb a past
tense for drink. But isn't it drink drank? I mean
he drank, but he had drunk. I thought that drunk
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could be used in that form as well as I'm
well aware that it describes Gerbstreet's condition at any point,
including often during the prediction segment on Fridays.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
All of that I understand to be very, very true. Davy.
Here's two texts on the McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I guess you could call it saga crisis at this point,
but these kind of size up the positions here, I
think largely. First, this is from six to one guy,
where the hell is six four to one? That's uh
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some of iowa oh, kind of seems like when you
have the third oldest team in the league and built
to win now, it makes no sense to play a
first year QB and expect to win in the playoffs
because there's never been a rookie quarterback to win the
Lombardi Trophy. Further now, technically it's not a rookie. Furthermore,
there was never there's never been a rookie quarterback make
it to the super Bowl. They should have either kept
Donald or Jones. Now, the other Texter points out, well
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that maybe we should remember. Isn't the way people were
talking until they saw the outcome to this point, So
it's too easy to say it now. This is from
six to one to two. Guy, I think I know
that area code. Why you keep ignoring the Darnald conversation
last year you had a hard stance. He wasn't the
Vikings QB and JJ is the future? Why not talk
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that point as many fans loves him and now he's
lighting up the league as in Donald is seems now
we're looking for a new QB. When we had a
franchise QB and you said Donald's not a franchise quarterback,
they rarely come around own up to your negative Donald comments.
What I said then, well, there's he's leaving a couple
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things out. What I said then was that it would
be very difficult to justify signing Donald to a long
term contract on the basis of the way he finished
the season as promising as he was, but I did.
I always said I could be convinced to consider the
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franchise tag.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That was the sneaky way out of it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That a lot of people know that's too much money,
even for the one year it would have been a
lot of money, and then you can't make the other
moves you made. But I was not automatically opposed to
considering franchising him, even if it was hard not to
feel queasy on the basis of what we saw late.
But what Texter Guy's also leaving out is I spent
the entire offseason saying, go get Aaron Rodgers. It's crazy,
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it might not work, but it's a crazy enough idea
that it might, and play it out because I think
he's better than he looked in New York.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
He wants to be here.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's a big part of it that I thought made
it less likely that it would be a soap opera
once he was here, and that can easily be found.
I was on record, and I as I was saying,
I'd even admit it, it could blow up in your face.
Cause again, if if you bring Darnoald back and for
whatever reason he struggles here, unlikely at least in regular season.
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Or you go Daniel Jones, which we probably didn't discuss enough,
in part because we didn't even really even know if
they had the money, if they had even offered him anything.
As it turns out, they did offer him pretty decent money,
but they never offered him a chance to compete for
the job.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Or you go Rogers.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Maybe that's he's awful, and then what's the comeback it's
going to be?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
He just started the clock on JJ. What do you guys?
Why did you do this?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You drafted him. He was supposed to be the guy.
So the second guest can play either way. But he's
leaving out a lot. And part of my feeling on
Rodgers was the way you built this roster, how old
it is, how ambitious you've been building. Then you don't
have to apologize for saying we are going to wait
at least one more year. That's a lot of I
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think what he's leaving out. But the first Texter is
making the central point that we have for a while.
As it has played out, it just does look like
this packed with the devil.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
We're going to do both.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
We're going to be old and established and be ambitious
in the offseason, and we're going to expect a quarterback
whose fundamentals are not yet established to not be the
reason we can't win games.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Doesn't add up.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's two conflicting objectives, and they thought they could get
away with it, and so far this season they've not
come close to being able to do exactly that.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I'm going to give you a couple stats regarding.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
The Gopher pass defense.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Want you to pay attention to these numbers.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Gophers are zero to five on the road this season,
starting with Cal, most recently Wrigley Field against Northwestern yesterday.
Five quarterbacks in those five games, five opposing quarterbacks. Here
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are their numbers. One eleven for one hundred and forty four.
That's seventy seven percent pass completion, one eleven out of
one forty four for one thousand, three hundred and fifty
one yards, eleven touchdowns, zero picks. Now that's that's I
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don't even know how you describe. That's whacker esque in
terms of defensive performance.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Good quarterbacks have looked good against this team. Un Impressive
quarterbacks have looked good against this defense. Mediocre quarterbacks have
had the game of their lives against the Gophers. Second,
I was gonna say secondary, but a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Also is no pass rush to speak of.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I mean almost zero pressure again yesterday against Northwestern. And
the other ongoing indictment of the defense is the game
is tied, the Gophers have come back to tie it
again late after losing the lead.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
The game is tied eight to eleven to play.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Northwestern takes over with eight minutes eleven seconds on the clock.
Most of you by now know when the Gophers finally
were able to rest the ball away from Northwestern, there
was forty five seconds.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Left to play in the game eight eleven.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That drive started and they kept it for almost eight minutes.
And then, of course you have very little margin for
error at the end of the game for the golfers
who did drive.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And then well, I feel sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I do feel sorry for Brady Denniburgh. He had two
kicks yesterday. The forty eight yard or earlier. You can't
even call it wide right. I mean, that's a that's
an insult to wide right to call it wide right.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And then the shorter one, which I think was look
it up.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I think it was forty yards at the end of
the game that one goes familiar in a familiar direction.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
The other direction wide left.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But I I mean, I again, that's that's why, as
much as it's it's an itch that the head coach
likes to scratch, you know, just because that's how he is.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
PJ. We're still a really good football team.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I don't know if he had the temerity to say
it after the game, but you're not a really good
football team.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
If you allow.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Opposing quarterbacks to complete one hundred eleven out of one
hundred and forty four pass attempts for almost fourteen hundred yards,
eleven touchdowns, zero interceptions. That's by definition a bad football team,
or it's certainly a bad defense. There's no other way
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around it. I mean, you see the point totals. I
think we're on the road, we're averaging giving up thirty
eight points a game. So we pretty much matched that
against Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Is there.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It was a forty yarder at the end of the game.
Forty yard at the end. Forty eight was one on
the thirty eight, but yeah, forty eight.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
And I know there was some discussion on Go for
Football Sunday.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
They they they've been laying this.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Ryan Burns has been laying this out for a while
on Denniburgh even before this, but uh, he came from Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Here's his totals.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Forty yards and further out, so other words, forty to
forty nine and fifty plus. Here are his totals from
twenty twenty four at Syracuse. So so his second, his
last year at Syracuse, and his only year here. He
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is zero for two, two for five. That's two for seven.
He's two for nine, forty yards and further out. Now,
in all fairness to the rest of the team, that's
not sustainable. That's not tenable. That's not That just means
you may be a hell of a kid, but you're
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just you shouldn't I put that on the coaches. That's like,
you know, we talk out a time about our coaches
who want to put players in succeed you know, in
a play, in a position to succeed and to win.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Well, you're not doing that with this kid. You're leaving.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
He's just he's obviously just not good enough kicker or
whatever you want to call it. Two for nine, I mean,
come on now, again, college kicking is not as good
as pro kicking. But it's even college kicking. The percentages
of extended to go up distance has gone up same way, right,
two for nine. I mean, you're not even giving yourself
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a chance. Now, again, they got a million other issues.
Defense is a defense, but despite the defense yesterday, they
were in a position to send the game into ot
with a Again, forty eight, I go, okay, that's a
little long in the tooth, even for a college game.
But forty then that that shouldn't be. And again, the
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wide left wasn't as wide as the one right, but
it was pretty wide. It wasn't even like it just
missed going inside the left upright.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It was not good.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I'm breaking news with NFC North repercussion. Oh Steelers quarterback
Aaron Rodgers. This is from Rappaport has been pushing to
play against the Bears, but in the end it was
too quick. Rogers should play next week. Mason Rudolph starts
against the Bears.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
What a break for the for the Bears. That's unbelieve
because it means it is you know, a rog I
own I own the you know the I own you guys.
He did so, uh yeah, that's a huge you know,
the Viking the Bears schedule has is the last play schedule.
They've enjoyed it, they've taken full advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But you're you're looking at the schedule.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
But before okay, starting to heat up a little bit,
they're gonna have to They're gonna have to play prove
they can play better or well against good teams, starting
with Pittsburgh. Right and now, uh, the starting quarterback has
gone and I'm not who's the backup? Rudolph Mason?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Rudolph And my pregame segment for Vikings pre game that
previews all the games.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Is now outdated. Ye, that's true. All right, your wild club?
What do we? What do you? What can you?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Can?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
You file a live report from our latest shutout? And
all I do is win?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, it's suppressive. I mean, it's you've mentioned it, I
think Friday. It's not like a quarterback controversy where you
have two quarterbacks. You have no quarterbacks. This is a
solid one two punt, no doubt. And this is what
the dream was when they drafted Valstet all those years ago.
And it looks really good. And then the top line
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is just firing. You're off is fit right in the
prisof's taking him under his wing. They're getting points galore,
Boldie is getting points. It just when they're at their best.
It is just a thing of beauty and capriceoft one
of the prettiest redeflection goals I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
And they look as solid as ever. So they must
have played pretty good in front. You only had Gush
only had nineteen stags. Yeah, right, so they must have
play pretty good in front of them. And it is
a It was the team's NHL leading fourth shutout, five
nil against the Penguins. Didn't we have a disastrous game
against the Penguins earlier a couple of weeks ago, Yeah,
it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Was that Areno's four to one final and the team
looked lost? Yeah? That was that shows you how quickly
things can change.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
And again that shows you was what we talked about
earlier in the show, the opportunity any game, including a
Sunday game in the NFL, offers a team that seems
to be, you know, headed in the wrong direction on
the precipice of not even being a factor at all
in the postseason. You've got road games against Green Bay
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and then Seattle. I'm not predicting this you find a
way to win both of those games, you're back to
five hundred and people go away. Every anything seems possible
at that point, But that's a lot to ask. Your
team is not, as I said, Friday is desperate. So
if you believe in the desperation factor, that's one in
the Vikings direction. But you have to be capable of
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doing something with your desperate and right now we don't
know that we can count on that in terms of
the certainly of the passing offense. Now, what I will
say to the brosmu Brownstone folks, I think, barring injury,
it is my belief there is zero chance that true
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guy plays the rest of the season. I think they're
utterly and completely committed, and I think they have to
be to the idea of playing and finding out more
about McCarthy. And you could say, well, if we were
hanging in this race, and you say, right now, I
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think you know for the next quarter and a half,
Broseman might give us a little bit of a lift,
that's different. But I don't think they view it that
way at this point. So I don't think. I'm not
saying your guy can't get on the field, but I
think it's only injury, another injury to JJ McCarthy that's
going to get him on the field. And now, sadly,
I think there's people not rooting for anybody to get hurt,
but they're curious enough because the slate is clean on Brosmer.
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We haven't seen him as a pro in any meaningful time.
So the assumption, as it is with any backup quarterback,
but especially this one because he used to play here,
is you project the best of what you think that
that QB offers.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
This could be a preposteros saying I think Green Bay
has more to lose today than I understand that the Vikings.
If this is all NFL analytics, yes, their current playoff
percentage is Green Bays. This is Minnesota, Minnesota over five
percent five. If they lose, it goes down to two percent.
If they win, it goes up to twelve. Meanwhile, green
Bay it's currently at seventy two, but if they lose,
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it drops all the way down to fifty five. Then
you go to the kiddies to litterbox on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, that's right. That's another. Then you're looking at a six,
five and one tier basically five hundred.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
That's fair so I think this is more of a
must win for Green Bay than it is I understand.
So in a way, yeah, yeah, as we talked about earlier, Oh,
the course of an eighty two game season, you're gonna
win some and lose some that you shouldn't and in
the end, if your good enough team.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
It really won't matter. But it is undeniable that some
losses feel weightier than others, I would say, don't you think?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
And the.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Gophers, or should say the Timberwolves most recent loss in Phoenix,
where they blow an eight point lead with fifty seconds
to go, absolutely feels like it was five losses. They
appeared to be finally in complete control of that game,
yet players coming off the bench. What was the play
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that had several players coming off the bench, A good
hustle play on the offensive end, I don't remember what
it was, but they seem to be in very good
position and then they got I mean well, I think
the quote from Finchy was we lost our minds, which
pretty much sizes the performance up.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
It was.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
It was not good and is I think it has
to be worthy of the calendar calamity.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I absolutely, I know.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Dan Wennesota said the committee would review the game the
morning after, but I absolutely think it would have to be.
And look, they've had some worse meltdowns for sure, but
eight point lead forty nine seconds left you lose in
regulation too, That's pretty astonishing.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Now we've had some others.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
We blew in twenty sixteen a seven point lead with
forty five seconds left, but we didn't lose that game
till lot right. And on one twenty seven, twenty twenty,
we blew a seventeen point lead with three minutes left,
but again lost in OT. To blow an eight point
lead with forty nine seconds left and not even get
the OT that's cataclysmic.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, a very bad loss.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
And we're back to in that sort of situation. Do
they need to have different people on the floor to
sort of steady things because nothing was steady about the mistakes,
the turnovers and again two big misfree throws by Anthony
Edwards as well.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
More on that coming up early next week.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Vikings Football Sunday is around the corner, as we said,
with all the injury updates you could be looking for,
and also then tomorrow guards you I think should be
back on bumper to bumper. We'll have the usual array
of Monday, a day after Vikings games guests as well,
and that'll include Johnny Athletic, who I don't think was
in Phoenix but I know watch the meltdown. Thanks for watching,
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thanks for texting today, and as I mentioned, Vikings Football
Sunday is coming up next here in the fan A
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(00:21):
I'm looking at some Texas came in during the parentis
Spare podcast?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No wait, that's a podcast, go for Football Sunday.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Can you comment on how hard it is to recruit
to Minneapolis against places like Iowa City, Ames, Bloomington, Indiana,
Champagne or Banna, Not to mention Fargo, give PJ time
to work those nil numbers. That is he saying that sarcastically?
It sounds like that sarcasm. Is that satire or is
he being serious? I'm trying to figure that out. Uh
like Ames nine five two? Guy, Well, I mean, you
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can make the argument that big city isn't necessarily an
advantage when you have some really nice campus towns, you know,
you think of in terms of university towns. But I'm
assuming there's some sarcasm there. We will get to the Gophers.
(01:15):
You know. It's interesting because I through much of the
game at the point where the Gophers built a I
think it was a twenty eight to thirteen lead. I'm
thinking to myself, the story of this game is all
as well in Gopher Land again, because the team has
returned to its element. In other words, you're playing a
mediocre team. And as long as we're playing mediocre teams.
(01:39):
Somebody said it was it on the broadcast Big ten
network or was it on the pregame show, and it
was meant as a compliment, But for me, it's the
ultimate indictment. PJ beats the teams he's supposed to beat,
and that's fine as far as it goes. But it
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also if that's the headline, then, as we've talked about
many times before, your ceiling is not very ambitious. And
it felt to me like, okay, after you know, on
the road, playing three good to very good teams and
getting killed on all those things, those on all those occasions,
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they're back in their element where, oh, yeah, we can
beat Northwest, we can beat these guys. That's how it
felt to twenty eight to thirteen. Unfortunately, the Gopher defense
had something else to say about that, and the Northwestern offense, which,
by the way, this might surprise you based on what
you saw yesterday if you watched, but we were reminded
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that going into a game in which it scored thirty
eight points and in the second half had drives of
seventy nine, seventy, seventy and fifty nine, the Northwestern passing
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offense ranked one hundred and eighteenth nationally, one hundred and
tenth in scoring offense, and one hundred and sixth.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
In total offense.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That's the rather scathing indictment of the current condition of
coaching and executing when it comes to defensive side of
the ball for your Golden Gophers. We will get in
a more Gopher conversation in a bit border battle coming
up as well. You're in Minnesota, wild? Are we now?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Officially? Are we at the hottest team in hockey? May
as well?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We have to be pretty close at this point, right.
We got another shutout? Was that Friday night?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think so wasn't even close? Five nil?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Score first again, that's all we do is score first,
and they never scored.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Our league leading. Is it fifth shutout or fourth? It's
one or the other.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But we are on a shutout roll a goaltending role,
it's all. It's seemingly coming together, as we discussed with
Bill gharrin late in the week as well. And meanwhile,
the Minnesota Timber has had one of their worst late
game collapses in the history of the franchise, which indeed
is saying something against the I believe the opponent was the.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think it was the Phoenix Suns on that occasion.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And eight point lead fifty seconds to go, that's hard
to do.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
They end up losing the game. They even get it
to overtime.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They lose the game in regulation, a couple of bad
turnovers down the stretch, ant misses, a couple of free throws.
How was your game experience, by the way, you went
to see them play?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Who the Wizards? Oh the Wizards? That's yeah, Yeah, it
was pretty much over yeah as it started. Yeah, that's
that's very true. Fun though, Yeah, that's okay. You had
a good time.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm sure you did. So all those are going to
be on the table.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
The branch on Bent Bryan Cafe in text line is
open at six four six, eight six, whichever direction you
would like to to go in. Somebody's writing with PJA
can beat Wisconsin all is forgiven. I'm not sure All's
going to be forgiven. But I'll tell you what, man,
I watched a little bit at Wisconsin Illinois game. Badgers
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are feeling pretty good, but they remind me a little bit.
It's a little bit like the Penn State story in
that the Penn State season disaster coach gets fired and
it's like, now they're almost playing with house money, where
we got nothing to lose, Let's just try to salvage something.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Let's have some fun.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And last night they did it at the expense of
the Nebraska Cornhuskers. As we continue, as the Gopher's victory
over Nebraska continues to be devalued week after week.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Uh, And I.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Feel it's the same with Wisconsin right Their season has
been a mess from the start, uh, people leaving early
at Camp Randall, the whole bit. And what they have
discovered is they've got they've got a legitimate defense, and
they're getting a little more offense at this point and
they dominated. They ended up winning going away against Brett
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Bilima and the University of Illinois. So I'd be very
wary if I were a Gopher fan of this this game,
because you'd you'd like to think a team with Wisconsin's
record that last week, even as a in a rivalry game,
is so beaten down that they're they're not gonna be
a factor. No, they're kind of I think, feeling their
oats a little bit, saying, okay, let's we're maybe we're
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maybe we're we're picking up the scent a little bit.
Maybe we got something we can carry it to next season.
So I wouldn't sleep on this game next Saturday at
at the original bank Huntington Bank Stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Did you see the heart breaking development on the text line? No,
rose bul guy? Oh, he sends in Dan and blakemore.
You aren't going to believe this, but I'm not going
to defend PJ after yesterday's loss.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh I see it now, you're right. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Blowing another lead after going down early yet again is
emblematic of a bigger problem in succession on HBO refuses
to pass CEO role because the son he's not a killer.
You got to be a killer, which I've been fearing
is the case with PJ and what's holding us back.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
As a program. We're taking the next step. Rose Bul guy,
what's happening. That's shocking. He's turning.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
He's undoubtedly brought our program to a place of stable,
consistent success, but his lack of aggressive, attacking boot on
the throat's mentality is infuriating. But then he goes on
to say he's earned the right to show us he's
capable of changing things, but has to start with him.
And then in PJ and Drake we trust and better
dead than Red. Well, certainly, certainly Drake was not the
problem yesterday. He threw very well. But the defense, as we.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Said, was a was a completely different different story. You know,
on this program when it comes to players under siege,
teams under siege, the cliche that I've invoked many times
before that I think applies again today as it pertains
to Border Battle, Vikings and Packers is that the players.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Always have the last word.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And to that extent, this is fairly simple equation the
way it works week to week in the National Football League,
where you can go from you know, from cataclysmic to
exuberant in the.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Blank of an eye.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Literally one game if the Vikings, no matter what it
doesn't guarantee regarding the Vikings playoff chances, if the Vikings
go to Lamba today and win the game, it will
there will be a great d joy and exuberance. It'll
be I'm not going to look beyond this game. I'm
just gonna look for we want it. We weren't supposed
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to win it. Everybody's down in the club. Everybody's down
on the quarterback. And even if I love the quarterback,
I'm starting to get a little bit worried about the quarterback.
It's all takes is one professional performance from JJ McCarthy
to at least ease a lot of the angst and
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the frustration.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's what has to happen. At some point.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You have to have one, and then two and then
a series of performances that take the heat off a
little bit. So no matter what's been I mean, there
is no quarterback in terms of mechanics is mechanics. I
don't remember a single quarterback who has been analyzed nationally,
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forget locally, with the intensity that JJ.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
McCarthy has been analyzed.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And none of that matters if he goes to Lambeau
today and plays a good to very good ballgame.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
How do we define good to very good?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, I guess probably more consistent, less error prone, and
even one would say perhaps a little more accurate. You know,
one of his there's a million metaphors and similes out
there right now regarding what has to change with his
either his mechanics or his style, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
One of I think JJ's was.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Will you find the one where he talks about the
cork we're really close to the cork being.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Exploding off the bottle.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't remember the term that he used for, but
see if you can find it, either online or we
don't have to have the audio necessarily, And I would
my gentle comeback would be no, the problem is the
cork to height.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You gotta loosen the cork a little bit. The idea that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know, we're just so close, and then once that
cork's off the bottle, you know, God knows what defenses
aren't gonna be.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
They're gonna be crying uncle.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I think there's too much pressure, you know, want that
that cork to explode.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Off the bottle. That's I think kind of what's been happening.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Everything just needs to be calmer, everything needs to be
a little looser.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Did you find the core quote? Here's the quote I
feel like for me. This is the quote I feel
like for me. I kind of make an analogy of
just you know, a cork about to come off a bottle. Yeah,
just understanding that it's gonna make this Whoever wrote this
article put all of his ums and ah's and it
makes me really hard to read. Uh, Just understanding that
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one of those little things I need to change about
my game is going to make a huge difference in
the outcome of every single drive. So yeah, I feel
like it's really close. It all comes down to consistency
and fundamentals and the little detail.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
There's too much.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I don't think if the court comes off the bottle
the wrong way, they're like, there's too much pressure building.
I think at that point, you've got cats and dogs
living together. You've got a mess on your hands. I
don't think you want that. I think there's too much
pressure right now. And again, I feel like the best
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way the head coach can help is safe play after
safe play after safe play. It's not very sexy, it's
not very ambitious. And by the way, when I say
safe play doesn't have to be just runs, it could
be passes. On the other hand, if even on short throws,
McCarthy's gonna be as inaccurate as he has been or
as inconsistent as he's been then I'm not sure there's
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any coordinator or any play caller that's going to be
able to fix that. Do we know who's in and
who's out for you in terms of your lengthy injury
report Green Bay Packers wise, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I think Matthew Oldham is trending in the wrong way,
and it sounds like Josh Jacobs is going to be
just game time. We'll find out at ten thirty if
he's active and we'll go from there. So but for
the most part, I think everyone's in, but Jacobs is
the big one.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Body base balance baby Steps that's from Hugo gos Wolves
and five body base balance baby Steps. Brosemer, Yeah, that's
pretty much it. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what you're
kind of looking for now. It doesn't hurt because I
know part of the Salisbury theory is, you know, he
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thinks that they're throwing too much stuff at him in
terms of all the cliches to explain his fundamentals being off,
and there's mind is too cluttered during the week and
they got to sort of let they got to clear
some of that clutter out and it's almost like all right, kid,
just we're gonna just there's a lotch of flame a
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little bit. Now, the danger of that is that could
mean five interceptions and a half. So that sounds better
in theory, but I think let's face it a.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Let's just say that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Let's just say for the sake of argument, the first
time the Vikings get the ball on first down, it's
play action fifty seven yards down the field for JJ Jefferson.
That's the kind of play that can also take the
pressure off where you say everything doesn't get fixed on
the basis that one play, but it feels better. Everybody
goes can take a little bit of a deep breath.
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So as much as I'm saying conservative, conservative, safe throw,
check down, don't don't apologize for a two yard pass
that Aaron Jones can turn into a nine or eleven
yard play. Every once in a while, what can really
take the pressure off is just a nice big play
that is well defended, as in well protected, and then
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the quarterback makes a nice read. Maybe you didn't even know,
I mean that's the wrong. Maybe you don't even want
to make a read. Here's where you're going to on
this play. We don't care what you see. You fling
it receiver makes a good play or the ball is
actually accurate.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's part of what you're what you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Where's the other text I wanted to get to before
first pause here? Cork popping can be dangerous or take
an eye out, very good call to see you need to.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Ease it off.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I'm not a big, you know, wine guy, cork guy anyway,
so I don't know. I don't have a lot of
experience in that regard. But we'll leave that to others
who have maybe a better idea. All right, let's get
a first pause in more Vikings packers to discuss a
little more NFL to get to, and that's going to
be a mix the rest of the way of the
Wild the Wolves.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And the beleaguered Gophers.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Who found a way to lose in a game in
which on the road down early ten to nil, they
had built a twenty eight to thirteen lead and didn't
even come close holding on to its states.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Sunday Sermons brought to you by J. C. R.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Ruffin so Blakemore tells me that Jonathan Gernard is officially
out for today's game.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Correct Breaking News.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Dot Com, Tom tom Pella, Sero Vikings Pro Bowl linebacker
Jonathan Gernard will be inactive today against the Packers. Coach
Kapda College just told me second straight game Garnnard is
missed because of a shoulder injury.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, that's not helpful to your favorite club. Did you
tell me you expect Jacobs to play?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I think they're leaving it up to game time.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Okay, so I very I'm gonna have to wait until
you in actives come out, gotcha. But they did call
up some for the practice squad, I believe, so there's
doubt for sure, but they're leaving it up until the
last time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, all right, fair enough, And the weather again looks favorable.
I think same as here. Right, relatively balmy for late
November and no presep so the conditions should not be
a big issue.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't know how your field is.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Do you guys do some Do you guys cheat on
your field to try to mess with the opposition?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know. It's funny. It seems like the only
team slipping is the opponents. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Got to get the right spikes. Yeah, well that's that
might that might have something to do with it. Brat
Shawn Bryan Cafe in text line is open at six
four six eight six. Jeff from Richfield. I have no
evidence to back this up, so take it with a
grain of salt. But I think we're using too much,
too much play action. JJ has seemed more comfortable when
he's just executes a normal pass. Play either five step
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dropper from shotgun made great place to finish the game
last week. There was no play action involved as quick passes.
Play action makes him turn his back to the routes
developing downfield in this process. Isn't there yet It's not
a bad point. Eventually, there's too much lost if you
do not have the court, in my opinion, over the
course of a long season of course of a quarterback's career,
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to keep him in the shotgun the whole time, or
to move away from play action. But if you are
acknowledging the obvious, which is he's not ready to be
handed the keys as early as we thought he was,
but we're still handing in the keys because we have
no choice. Then until you get to more offseasons and
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have chances to work longer and more repetitively with all
those fundamental issues base balance, Brozemer, the whole bit, then
you do try within it in stretches of a game,
I think to simplify as much as possible, and maybe
there could be some help there. Ultimately, it's like playing
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the position with one well. I think, in fact that
quote's been used that he's right now playing the position
with one hand tied behind his back because of poor fundamentals.
But you have to be able to play action. You
have to, especially in this kind of offense. You have
to be at the line of scrimmage, and you have
to be able to learn defense even as you have
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to turn your back. You know, that's what the best
quarterbacks do, and in fact, it is fair that part
of the evaluation process that gets in the way is
a lot of college quarterbacks are not accustomed to that,
and so either they're never going to be capable of
making the switch, or it is going to take them
some time, because it's an art that must be mastered,
and very few of them do. From the beginning the
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old I'm not being able to see the defense the
whole time as I would be in the shotgun.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You guys, how much shotgun do you? Guys? Do?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I don't even remember quite a bit you do? I mean,
you got him at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You have Jordan.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's under center, too, don't you. Yeah, they do they
I'd say they do an equal bit of both. Probably
a little too much running out of the shotgun for
a lot of people's taste, but.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't always love that either,
especially in short yardage situations.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
The only reason to watch the Purple at this point
is to evaluate McCarthy. But if when he finally becomes watchable,
I'm just gonna have to put up with Koc's unwatchable
play calling, not doing the kid any favors. What's the
point Dan McCarthy meditated run game overrated?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Thank god, I'm medicated. That's whim flan.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Well, yeah, we're perilously close to that being the only
reason to watch, right, And maybe again, it takes the
pressure off at that point. You don't have to quite
obsessed to the same level about each result each week.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If you go, well, we're this is a gap year.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
We didn't intend it to be a gap year, but
it's turning into a gap year. So now it's get
him out there, try to find the sorts of plays
that work for him that he's most comfortable with then
occasionally try to mix in some stuff that's harder but
that he's going to have to master, and we'll just
see it. By the end of the season, we get
a better read on his future whether he has a
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future at the position. Because let's face it, no matter
what the Vikings and McCarthy say, the evaluation is constant.
So even if they say this is our guy, we
stand behind our guy.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
The truth is you're evaluating as you go.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
So how many games we have left, seven games less season,
whatever it.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Is, Seattle, Washington, Dallas, New York, Detroit, Green.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Bay, Okay, So the rest of the season, it's you're evaluating.
And if at the end of the season you have
all those offseason, you have all those opportunities to have
those meetings, and you go, gentlemen, or we're convening to
talk about something we don't want to talk about and
we never thought we'd have to talk about. Can we,
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with a straight face go forward under the belief that
JJ McCarthy can be our starting quarterback again next season
without competition, just as the guy did. We see enough.
That's what this evaluation is all about. And what I'm
saying is there are times where teams go. I know
what we said publicly. I know we thought, we believed,
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but we've got too big of a gap here, and
we can't afford another gap year because we're not convinced
that maybe all the things we thought we projected in
him he's capable of doing now it can also go
the other way. That's what I like, That's what I
saw on tape in college. That's what we thought could
get better. Then you have your answer, because I know
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for a lot of people it's well, just bring in
at the very least, you're gonna have to bring in
another option to compete for the job. I doubt the
Vikings are going to do it that way. They may
be interested in trying to get a more established backup
veteran quarterback than they had starting this season or before
they ended up, you know, switching off from Howell and
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going to uh to Wentz. But I I will still
be surprised. It's it's just the way. It's not just
the Vikings, it's it's the way it tends to work
in the league. We go, well, no, if we still
see enough, we think he's the guy. We're not turning
it into a competition. We're still going to play it
out like he is our number one quarterback, So indeed
we uh we can. We'll see all of that. Which
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number will be higher today, writes Clayton from Rochester. JJ
completions or gerb Schmidt beers drank? Would it be beers
drank or beers drunk? What would be the proper usage there?
Gerschmidt beers drunk, drink drank drunk? I'm not sure somebody
would be. We have linguists, grammarians who listened to the
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program who'll be able to answer.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That drunk is what he will be after the first
That's true.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's a very good point. It might be before then.
Tom from Savage, I'm re training my neurological pathways to
look forward to the draft. Very well played bottom of
the hour, get some wild conversation going see what Blakemore
saw in our most recent shutout.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's what we do. We shut teams out.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Now we suddenly become a defensive juggernaut between goaltending and
the play in front of whoever is in net for us.
Wolves collapse in Phoenix. Not a good finish at all,
and we'll get to some gopher conversation as well. The
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proper grammar McCarthy. No, that's not the one I'm looking
for already. Yeah, No, it is proper grammer McCarthy. Completions
are how many beer rescripshon will drink? Drunk is an
adjective describing one's condition. Drank as a verb a past
tense for drink. But isn't it drink drank? I mean
he drank, but he had drunk. I thought that drunk
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could be used in that form as well as I'm
well aware that it describes Gerbstreet's condition at any point,
including often during the prediction segment on Fridays.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
All of that I understand to be very, very true. Davy.
Here's two texts on the McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I guess you could call it saga crisis at this point,
but these kind of size up the positions here, I
think largely. First, this is from six to one guy,
where the hell is six four to one? That's uh
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some of iowa oh, kind of seems like when you
have the third oldest team in the league and built
to win now, it makes no sense to play a
first year QB and expect to win in the playoffs
because there's never been a rookie quarterback to win the
Lombardi Trophy. Further now, technically it's not a rookie. Furthermore,
there was never there's never been a rookie quarterback make
it to the super Bowl. They should have either kept
Donald or Jones. Now, the other Texter points out, well
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that maybe we should remember. Isn't the way people were
talking until they saw the outcome to this point, So
it's too easy to say it now. This is from
six to one to two. Guy, I think I know
that area code. Why you keep ignoring the Darnald conversation
last year you had a hard stance. He wasn't the
Vikings QB and JJ is the future? Why not talk
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that point as many fans loves him and now he's
lighting up the league as in Donald is seems now
we're looking for a new QB. When we had a
franchise QB and you said Donald's not a franchise quarterback,
they rarely come around own up to your negative Donald comments.
What I said then, well, there's he's leaving a couple
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things out. What I said then was that it would
be very difficult to justify signing Donald to a long
term contract on the basis of the way he finished
the season as promising as he was, but I did.
I always said I could be convinced to consider the
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franchise tag.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That was the sneaky way out of it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That a lot of people know that's too much money,
even for the one year it would have been a
lot of money, and then you can't make the other
moves you made. But I was not automatically opposed to
considering franchising him, even if it was hard not to
feel queasy on the basis of what we saw late.
But what Texter Guy's also leaving out is I spent
the entire offseason saying, go get Aaron Rodgers. It's crazy,
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it might not work, but it's a crazy enough idea
that it might, and play it out because I think
he's better than he looked in New York.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
He wants to be here.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's a big part of it that I thought made
it less likely that it would be a soap opera
once he was here, and that can easily be found.
I was on record, and I as I was saying,
I'd even admit it, it could blow up in your face.
Cause again, if if you bring Darnoald back and for
whatever reason he struggles here, unlikely at least in regular season.
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Or you go Daniel Jones, which we probably didn't discuss enough,
in part because we didn't even really even know if
they had the money, if they had even offered him anything.
As it turns out, they did offer him pretty decent money,
but they never offered him a chance to compete for
the job.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Or you go Rogers.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Maybe that's he's awful, and then what's the comeback it's
going to be?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
He just started the clock on JJ. What do you guys?
Why did you do this?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You drafted him. He was supposed to be the guy.
So the second guest can play either way. But he's
leaving out a lot. And part of my feeling on
Rodgers was the way you built this roster, how old
it is, how ambitious you've been building. Then you don't
have to apologize for saying we are going to wait
at least one more year. That's a lot of I
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think what he's leaving out. But the first Texter is
making the central point that we have for a while.
As it has played out, it just does look like
this packed with the devil.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
We're going to do both.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
We're going to be old and established and be ambitious
in the offseason, and we're going to expect a quarterback
whose fundamentals are not yet established to not be the
reason we can't win games.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Doesn't add up.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's two conflicting objectives, and they thought they could get
away with it, and so far this season they've not
come close to being able to do exactly that.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I'm going to give you a couple stats regarding.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
The Gopher pass defense.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Want you to pay attention to these numbers.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Gophers are zero to five on the road this season,
starting with Cal, most recently Wrigley Field against Northwestern yesterday.
Five quarterbacks in those five games, five opposing quarterbacks. Here
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are their numbers. One eleven for one hundred and forty four.
That's seventy seven percent pass completion, one eleven out of
one forty four for one thousand, three hundred and fifty
one yards, eleven touchdowns, zero picks. Now that's that's I
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don't even know how you describe. That's whacker esque in
terms of defensive performance.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Good quarterbacks have looked good against this team. Un Impressive
quarterbacks have looked good against this defense. Mediocre quarterbacks have
had the game of their lives against the Gophers. Second,
I was gonna say secondary, but a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Also is no pass rush to speak of.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I mean almost zero pressure again yesterday against Northwestern. And
the other ongoing indictment of the defense is the game
is tied, the Gophers have come back to tie it
again late after losing the lead.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
The game is tied eight to eleven to play.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Northwestern takes over with eight minutes eleven seconds on the clock.
Most of you by now know when the Gophers finally
were able to rest the ball away from Northwestern, there
was forty five seconds.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Left to play in the game eight eleven.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That drive started and they kept it for almost eight minutes.
And then, of course you have very little margin for
error at the end of the game for the golfers
who did drive.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And then well, I feel sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I do feel sorry for Brady Denniburgh. He had two
kicks yesterday. The forty eight yard or earlier. You can't
even call it wide right. I mean, that's a that's
an insult to wide right to call it wide right.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And then the shorter one, which I think was look
it up.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I think it was forty yards at the end of
the game that one goes familiar in a familiar direction.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
The other direction wide left.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But I I mean, I again, that's that's why, as
much as it's it's an itch that the head coach
likes to scratch, you know, just because that's how he is.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
PJ. We're still a really good football team.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I don't know if he had the temerity to say
it after the game, but you're not a really good
football team.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
If you allow.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Opposing quarterbacks to complete one hundred eleven out of one
hundred and forty four pass attempts for almost fourteen hundred yards,
eleven touchdowns, zero interceptions. That's by definition a bad football team,
or it's certainly a bad defense. There's no other way
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around it. I mean, you see the point totals. I
think we're on the road, we're averaging giving up thirty
eight points a game. So we pretty much matched that
against Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Is there.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It was a forty yarder at the end of the game.
Forty yard at the end. Forty eight was one on
the thirty eight, but yeah, forty eight.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
And I know there was some discussion on Go for
Football Sunday.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
They they they've been laying this.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Ryan Burns has been laying this out for a while
on Denniburgh even before this, but uh, he came from Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Here's his totals.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Forty yards and further out, so other words, forty to
forty nine and fifty plus. Here are his totals from
twenty twenty four at Syracuse. So so his second, his
last year at Syracuse, and his only year here. He
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is zero for two, two for five. That's two for seven.
He's two for nine, forty yards and further out. Now,
in all fairness to the rest of the team, that's
not sustainable. That's not tenable. That's not That just means
you may be a hell of a kid, but you're
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just you shouldn't I put that on the coaches. That's like,
you know, we talk out a time about our coaches
who want to put players in succeed you know, in
a play, in a position to succeed and to win.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Well, you're not doing that with this kid. You're leaving.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
He's just he's obviously just not good enough kicker or
whatever you want to call it. Two for nine, I mean,
come on now, again, college kicking is not as good
as pro kicking. But it's even college kicking. The percentages
of extended to go up distance has gone up same way, right,
two for nine. I mean, you're not even giving yourself
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a chance. Now, again, they got a million other issues.
Defense is a defense, but despite the defense yesterday, they
were in a position to send the game into ot
with a Again, forty eight, I go, okay, that's a
little long in the tooth, even for a college game.
But forty then that that shouldn't be. And again, the
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wide left wasn't as wide as the one right, but
it was pretty wide. It wasn't even like it just
missed going inside the left upright.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It was not good.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I'm breaking news with NFC North repercussion. Oh Steelers quarterback
Aaron Rodgers. This is from Rappaport has been pushing to
play against the Bears, but in the end it was
too quick. Rogers should play next week. Mason Rudolph starts
against the Bears.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
What a break for the for the Bears. That's unbelieve
because it means it is you know, a rog I
own I own the you know the I own you guys.
He did so, uh yeah, that's a huge you know,
the Viking the Bears schedule has is the last play schedule.
They've enjoyed it, they've taken full advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But you're you're looking at the schedule.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
But before okay, starting to heat up a little bit,
they're gonna have to They're gonna have to play prove
they can play better or well against good teams, starting
with Pittsburgh. Right and now, uh, the starting quarterback has
gone and I'm not who's the backup? Rudolph Mason?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Rudolph And my pregame segment for Vikings pre game that
previews all the games.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Is now outdated. Ye, that's true. All right, your wild club?
What do we? What do you? What can you?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Can?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
You file a live report from our latest shutout? And
all I do is win?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, it's suppressive. I mean, it's you've mentioned it, I
think Friday. It's not like a quarterback controversy where you
have two quarterbacks. You have no quarterbacks. This is a
solid one two punt, no doubt. And this is what
the dream was when they drafted Valstet all those years ago.
And it looks really good. And then the top line
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is just firing. You're off is fit right in the
prisof's taking him under his wing. They're getting points galore,
Boldie is getting points. It just when they're at their best.
It is just a thing of beauty and capriceoft one
of the prettiest redeflection goals I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
And they look as solid as ever. So they must
have played pretty good in front. You only had Gush
only had nineteen stags. Yeah, right, so they must have
play pretty good in front of them. And it is
a It was the team's NHL leading fourth shutout, five
nil against the Penguins. Didn't we have a disastrous game
against the Penguins earlier a couple of weeks ago, Yeah,
it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Was that Areno's four to one final and the team
looked lost? Yeah? That was that shows you how quickly
things can change.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
And again that shows you was what we talked about
earlier in the show, the opportunity any game, including a
Sunday game in the NFL, offers a team that seems
to be, you know, headed in the wrong direction on
the precipice of not even being a factor at all
in the postseason. You've got road games against Green Bay
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and then Seattle. I'm not predicting this you find a
way to win both of those games, you're back to
five hundred and people go away. Every anything seems possible
at that point, But that's a lot to ask. Your
team is not, as I said, Friday is desperate. So
if you believe in the desperation factor, that's one in
the Vikings direction. But you have to be capable of
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doing something with your desperate and right now we don't
know that we can count on that in terms of
the certainly of the passing offense. Now, what I will
say to the brosmu Brownstone folks, I think, barring injury,
it is my belief there is zero chance that true
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guy plays the rest of the season. I think they're
utterly and completely committed, and I think they have to
be to the idea of playing and finding out more
about McCarthy. And you could say, well, if we were
hanging in this race, and you say, right now, I
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think you know for the next quarter and a half,
Broseman might give us a little bit of a lift,
that's different. But I don't think they view it that
way at this point. So I don't think. I'm not
saying your guy can't get on the field, but I
think it's only injury, another injury to JJ McCarthy that's
going to get him on the field. And now, sadly,
I think there's people not rooting for anybody to get hurt,
but they're curious enough because the slate is clean on Brosmer.
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We haven't seen him as a pro in any meaningful time.
So the assumption, as it is with any backup quarterback,
but especially this one because he used to play here,
is you project the best of what you think that
that QB offers.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
This could be a preposteros saying I think Green Bay
has more to lose today than I understand that the Vikings.
If this is all NFL analytics, yes, their current playoff
percentage is Green Bays. This is Minnesota, Minnesota over five
percent five. If they lose, it goes down to two percent.
If they win, it goes up to twelve. Meanwhile, green
Bay it's currently at seventy two, but if they lose,
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it drops all the way down to fifty five. Then
you go to the kiddies to litterbox on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, that's right. That's another. Then you're looking at a six,
five and one tier basically five hundred.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
That's fair so I think this is more of a
must win for Green Bay than it is I understand.
So in a way, yeah, yeah, as we talked about earlier, Oh,
the course of an eighty two game season, you're gonna
win some and lose some that you shouldn't and in
the end, if your good enough team.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
It really won't matter. But it is undeniable that some
losses feel weightier than others, I would say, don't you think?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
And the.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Gophers, or should say the Timberwolves most recent loss in Phoenix,
where they blow an eight point lead with fifty seconds
to go, absolutely feels like it was five losses. They
appeared to be finally in complete control of that game,
yet players coming off the bench. What was the play
(41:38):
that had several players coming off the bench, A good
hustle play on the offensive end, I don't remember what
it was, but they seem to be in very good
position and then they got I mean well, I think
the quote from Finchy was we lost our minds, which
pretty much sizes the performance up.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
It was.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
It was not good and is I think it has
to be worthy of the calendar calamity.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I absolutely, I know.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Dan Wennesota said the committee would review the game the
morning after, but I absolutely think it would have to be.
And look, they've had some worse meltdowns for sure, but
eight point lead forty nine seconds left you lose in
regulation too, That's pretty astonishing.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Now we've had some others.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
We blew in twenty sixteen a seven point lead with
forty five seconds left, but we didn't lose that game
till lot right. And on one twenty seven, twenty twenty,
we blew a seventeen point lead with three minutes left,
but again lost in OT. To blow an eight point
lead with forty nine seconds left and not even get
the OT that's cataclysmic.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, a very bad loss.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
And we're back to in that sort of situation. Do
they need to have different people on the floor to
sort of steady things because nothing was steady about the mistakes,
the turnovers and again two big misfree throws by Anthony
Edwards as well.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
More on that coming up early next week.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Vikings Football Sunday is around the corner, as we said,
with all the injury updates you could be looking for,
and also then tomorrow guards you I think should be
back on bumper to bumper. We'll have the usual array
of Monday, a day after Vikings games guests as well,
and that'll include Johnny Athletic, who I don't think was
in Phoenix but I know watch the meltdown. Thanks for watching,
(43:34):
thanks for texting today, and as I mentioned, Vikings Football
Sunday is coming up next here in the fan A
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