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October 14, 2025 • 42 mins
Common Man Hour 1 --Wheel of Topics --Peek at the Purple --QB Quandary --Mark Rosen Joins

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Bad common man, common man, no shop, no solid plan.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
So there a scar approach will fail to him.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's time for common man, common man, common man charge
the house was like, no one can.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
What a shoot? Where we play?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's nonsense. I'm dectity cuting man. It's time for common.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
No.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Why should anybody aspire to be a common man? An
average man? Do you realize what it means to be average?
That means you're the best of the lousiest and the
lousiest of the best. Now, if we demand more and
more for producing less and less while they have not,
nations encourage and inspire, and indeed require hard work and
maximum effort. If we deify the common man while they

(00:59):
encourage and the uncommon ones, well, the end result of
such a luck sided race as that is too obvious
to require elaboration.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
It's like, hello, there's so much when you practice your
set up cheers, there's a run through chairs.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Sure you trust which trucks cheers? That's not that, I'm
said a restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nothing better at it?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Lay up?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Play up?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
The play out?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Play up?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
You stay glassy, San Diego, you're breaking up, Bob, you're
breaking camn dancer, What are you doing? We're the state
of hockey, and I think that brows that souf Hello no,

(02:28):
no stop, let's go hello hello, hello, Hello, hello hello hello. Okay,
hold on, I've seen enough out of cousin's Paul. Put
him on ice.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
A dog with a note his mouse should be able
to sell those, right, I'm gonna say some.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Nothing boats we got screwed.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
How about the cardiac cats?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
How about him? Huh now?

Speaker 7 (03:09):
They gave me a heart attack the other night.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Little he's the clown from Brown the four in the North.
Maybe this is the common man, Dan Coley.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I am the common man.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
I am when I am as all that I am,
and I'm supposed to be somebody else.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Why do I look like me?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Ak akadak and dak dak act you and yours here
till three. I'm unprepared, uninformed, and unapologetic about it. If
you want poise, professional and polish, stick around three o'clock,
big ticket and jag. There ain't nobody better as I say.
We're here till three, tenab being part of that we
it's common in Tennabe.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
Mark Rosen will join us a little early today.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
He has Oh boy, I think he he's got something
to do, so he's gonna be here one thirty to
two thirty.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I believe so a little.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
It is a little of that with the emphasis on
the line, and there's plenty to get to today. Quarterback
controversy continues to swirl here locally. I'm getting inundated with
emails people trying to talk Tennebee and common Man out
of their take on what the Vikings should do with
the wild. You win some, you lose some. The Minnesota
Timberwolves destroy a high school team or maybe it was

(04:18):
some pro team from China or something. A boy, a
couple of upsets last night in Monday Night football, Monday
Night for Dog Bears come up with a victory. And
we have a jam pack leaderboard in the NFC North
and a spectacular opening game to the NLCS last night.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
So many topics to get to. I'm not sure where
to begin. Let's spin the wheel of.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Time Commons golf game in this really good way.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
What did you shoot today? Seventy five? Wow? Where'd we play?
I had an.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Experience that was not unlike that of a PGA Tour
player played at Big Boy coorse Baker National.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Where'd you hit it on one right at the gun.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
The way I to the middle of the green, I
had one pin was like middle left or front left,
and to get there I probably had.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
To hit it second chat.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
I hit it one ninety, then what two put it
for par hit it to four feet on two for birdie.
On par three, I had to eat a six footer
to say bow.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, the number one handicapped whole number three.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Then on four par five at one hundred yards in
and I still as I've improved my swing. It's it's
almost I've gone from like a caterpillar to a butterfly
or a tadpole to a frog or is it a toad?
My game is just metamorphosized. That's a word. But I

(05:57):
pulled it left on the fringe two putt from there.
Hit it on the par four fifth to twenty five
feet two putt it there.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Number six is a terrific par five. It's like if
if if I were to.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Name that hole, I would call it the snake because
it's kind of a snaky fairway.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
There's there's lake spurs them on the right and I
hit it into the into the water.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Took my drop, hit it, hit a hybrid up to
about one hundred yards, hit it a little long, so
I was in the I was just in the fringe
and I hit a par putt that was way too
aggressive and went about eight or ten feet by made
it to say bogey. Really critical par three For those
that have played the golf course before you know they have.

(06:41):
It's a three tiered green lower, middle and back. It
was in the front and I pulled that shot as
well with an eight iron. But then I two putted
from the fringe, a terrific little two putt, stayed at
two over, and then I went bogey bogie to finish
the front side on the back, number ten, one hundred
and eleven yards, pitching edge to two inches, tap in birdie,

(07:07):
next toll five iron from one sixty five to about
ten feet just missed. That made par two part of
the par three for par pitchfork. It was more than
a pitchfork. It was really good.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Then I hit a seven iron into.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Into the par three twelve, made par par thirteen as
well from the fringe, hit a seven iron in. Then
I bowgied number number fourteen fifty is where it all started.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
This is where this is where I was in awe
of myself.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
One hundred and sixty nine yards to a left pin,
and that's kind of drops down into a little lower level.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I hit it up on top.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I had forty two feet all downhill like a ski jump,
and I made it for forty two feet, just a
perfect putt. Just trickled it to the top, and then
it just trundled in next toll par fourth twenty seven.
I block it right out of nowhere. I don't even
know where it's got. I've never been over there. There's
a bunch of trees there, it's then there's there's hundreds
hundreds of leaves.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
But guess what I found. It didn't even not to
do leaf rule. So then I tried to hit a
low highbred under the trees, and I hit a terrible shot.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
It trickled up by the by the cart path. So
now I take the drop from the cars, right up
against the car path, take the drop from the park
cart path. I'm hit my third shot on a par
four from one oh five, hit it to two feet
to save par two.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Put paw from fifteen feet.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
On seventeen eighteen, I hit it into the green side
bunker left to a front left Pan hit a good
bunker shot, but I hit it too far.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It's thirty three feet pass. I got thirty three feet.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Coming downhill, and then there's a little bump just about
a foot before the hole. Sea you got to take
it right. It's got to hit that bump and fall in.
And it does exactly that. For par I can't play
any better than I played today, I don't think. And
I even had it, Like I said, a couple of
four shots.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Now I made some.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I mean the putt I made on fifteen and the
putt I made on on on eighteen, I could say
I could have sat there all day and tried again
and again, never made the same putt again. So you know,
I'm not going to suggest that I should have shots,
you know, seventy. But I also hit some really bad
approach shots, and so I knew my best golf was

(09:22):
still in front of me. But I couldn't convince myself
that because.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Doubts.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Not only were doubts creeping in, they were attached to
my hip.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
I mean, I had doubts i'd ever play well again
and now and now the rest of the story.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
So I know you were interested. I'm happy for you.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Well, I could see that you were. You were hanging
on every on, every shot, every description.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
Well, I feel bad because you just had, you know,
one of the best rounds you've had all year, and
I'm about to make this about me. Oh, I'm about
to change it. Oh, because you're talking about Baker National.
It remind me of number eighteen on Baker National. I
was playing with you. It was a long time ago, okay,
and it's a lot it's a longer part four eighteen.
If I recall kind of uphill.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
A little bit right down, it's I elevated t box
down into a valley and then back.

Speaker 8 (10:09):
I feel like I had like one hundred and seventy
five yard shot was about right, and you know, lasered
it pured it. But it's kind of a blind green,
so you can't see where it goes. I go up
advance up there ahead of you and whoever else you
were playing with at the ten prime pier or someone,
and I noticed my balls in the hole, but like,

(10:30):
so I hold out for eagle. I didn't see it
go in because it was a blind you know, it's uphill.
But then like I felt like I was robbed of
the fanfare of Yeah, because I had to wait, you know,
a minute or two for you and you're playing partner
to get up there at that point, like you didn't
see it go in.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Now, you didn't see me my reaction the first time.

Speaker 8 (10:47):
So I just felt like I was robbed of a little,
you know, the proper fanfare I deserved.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Did you.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Did you fist pump? Because you did when you hit
that thirty foot or for a ten when you made it,
I think might have been a more challenging show. Yeah, yeah,
you know, in my mental state at that point, I
think that was a more important shot.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
I don't recall the shot I wish I did.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
It was it was a long time, yeah, because you
guy didn't even see the shot. You guys are and I'm.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Also only you know, all I care about is my
own selfish yeah, listener once pointed out.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
So yeah, so it was good.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
And uh, this week I'm going to play less Bullstad
for the last time. You know, the of course if
you played Bullstead, yes, we've played it together. I think
they're closing Bullstad. The university and all their infinite wisdom
have decided the golf course does not serve a purpose anymore.
So now they want to sell it because they can
get a lot of money for housing development. From what
I've been told by people that know, that's not the

(11:46):
greatest place to be building because there's a lot of
you know, lowlands and marshes and this and that. So
I don't know, you know I and you know, let's
face it, as far as a a big ten golf
course where you play events, you can't the only play
sixty two hundred yards from the back teas and these
kids you got to play seventy five hundred now, So
I guess it has to that extent outlived its use.

(12:08):
I think the university, I think their home courses win
Song Farms. I think that's where they travel when they
have when they when they do big ten tournaments here,
you know, in the big when they had more, they're
the home team. But it's a fun golf course. It's
it's it's challenging, it's always in good shape. And I
want to play it one last time before they because I.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Think this is it. I think next year.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I think there were efforts to try to prevent the
sale and maybe it maybe they still will, I don't know,
but so I'm gonna try to get out there and
then I'm out. The ten of Fitzgerald sets sale on
Thursday and Friday. And again, have you come up with
any plans for it yet, because yesterday you said.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
You had to even give it a thought.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Yeah, yeah, I did book Pete Bursis for Friday, Okay,
twelve thirty.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
All right.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Versus the Vikings interior decord, will you ask him what, uh,
you know, how much if he had a real hand
in helping the you know, doing the interior decorating at
the new Winter Parks that opened a few years ago,
because I'm sure he was. He's had a lot to
do with that, the former linebacker and interior decorator the
soon to be Big Game World champion Minnesota Vikings. I
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(13:13):
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Speaker 7 (13:26):
And I also think belaboring is like when you keep
you know, you just keep.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Talking about the same thing and just but I'm getting
all sorts of emails. I'd like to say hundreds, hundreds,
but it's not hundreds, it's not even dozens, but it's several.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
But I just want to explain I think.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
What you and I might be thinking, at least what
I'm thinking about about the.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
The the Wentz Brosmer.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
McCarthy if you want to call it quarterback controversy or not,
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Speaker 1 (15:36):
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Speaker 4 (15:44):
I've got a number of emails need to be people
saying you know in they're phrase differently, Summers. I'm really
not trying to change your mind, but I don't think
you're actually approaching the topic from the right angle and
you're not on the other side of the story and this,
and then it's all from people who like who are saying,
I want to see what we have in our young quarterback.
And I understand that that we You know, you're seeing

(16:06):
what you have in Drake May, and you're seeing what
you have in in uh who's the kid for Washington, Daniel, Daniel.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
You're seeing all these young quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Football and they're all they have their ups and their
downs or highs and their lows, and you're getting to
feel form, especially when they're still under the rookie contract,
and everybody wants to see the same thing. And they
they all are just ready to already they're already ready.
They are writing off the season already as if well,

(16:37):
if he's good, that's great, you know, if if if,
if he if he can, if he can come back
like against Philadelphia and play like he did in the
fourth quarter against the Bears, will probably win a lot
of games to make postseason. But he had seven other
quarters in which he was terrible. And what I told
when I tell these emailers, I I I respond, if
you email me at common at cafe in dot Com.
I will respond and I say, it doesn't matter what

(17:01):
I think Tennebee thinks, or you think it matters what
the football team thinks. They they play games to win games. Yes,
they want to break in a quarterback. And if they
can get the best of both worlds. If you can
break in a quarterback and win some games and make postseason,
that's wonderful. What we've seen so far is a quarterback

(17:22):
that's not up to the task of winning football games
this season. At least he has in for seven of
the of the of the eight quarters. Now, it's a
very small sample size. And maybe watching WinCE this past
couple of weeks. I mean, I remember he watched Darnall
All last year and that didn't work out so well
as far as translated to him playing really well right

(17:43):
out of the gate. I think the kid's got a
chance to be a good quarterback. And like, you know,
somebody was, you know, another emailer was saying, you know
what Tennabee keeps talking about, Well, we have plenty of
time to see what he's like.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
But you know, once we get to that point of.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
The season, if we're out of it, you know, let's say,
well we're out of let's go now, it's going to
be you're not going to really see him under situations
in which they're you know, you know, their critical.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Games and pressure situations.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
And I guess you could make that argument, but at
the end of the day, it's what O'Connell thinks in
the coaching staff, that's what matters.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
And just trying to read between the lines.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yesterday, he was very noncommittal about who to play, very
noncommittal and if they were indeed.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
If he didn't, I.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Mean, and noncommittal to the point where he didn't even say, oh, well,
if if JJ passes all the physical tests that we have,
if his ankle is one hundred percent, he's starting case closed.
He won't even say that. He's just going, well, we
got to kind of see how it goes here, because
and he did say in his news conference yesterday, you know,
he's kind of he has this public stance on the

(18:50):
on the quarterback situation and the procress it. Again, these
guys do play like it's World War two. They're they're,
they're they're you know, the they're they're, they're, they're, they're
they're planning the Battle of Verdunne. You know, they don't
want to tip their hand at all, but I just.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
As a fan, I want to win games.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
And this team went fourteen and three last year, and
they added to their offensive and defensive lines in the
interior of both because they felt like they could win
and they could win now. And that's the way that
that's the way teams approach it until it's finally too late.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Should the Bears have given up?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Weren't they? Zer and to the Bears should have just
given up, you know, and try playing some some spare
part guy, some new guys. No, you played to win
football games, and that's just what I think they're going
to do. I can listen to that argument, and I
can even agree with it. I'd like to see McCarthy,
but it's not up to us.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
Well, and I should also add you and I are
both saying, hey, we'd like to see Carson Wentz. That
doesn't mean we're committing to him to the rest of
the season. I am committing to him to the Philadelphia
Eagles game, and then I will see what happens after that.
So this idea that well you want one st means
we're not going to see JJ McCarthy until December and

(20:03):
by then those games might not matter. No, we might
see we could be committing to JJ McCarthy on October
twenty third, and you still have plenty And like in
the NFL, most these games mean something. Right the Vikings,
especially because they're three and two, they would have to
tank pretty bad to not have meaning meaningful games in November, right,

(20:26):
Like the last two weeks of the season might be meaningless,
but most teams are kind of in the mix. And hey,
a win or two here, we might have a chance
at a wild card spot in beginning to mid December.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Where we're at right now, it's Packers three to one
and one, Detroit four and two, Vikings three and two. Yeah,
and the Bears three and two. You're basically a half
game out of first place. Why were you probably tied
for the last wild card spot right now?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (20:52):
Yet, I keeping from fans, I'm willing to sacrifice. So
that's fine. Well, you're not the franchise, you're not.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
You don't speak for the entire your fan base, you
don't speak for the team, for the organization. And if
that's the way you feel, that's great. I don't think
you're gonna get your wish. I think Wentz starts this week.
Now he may not, and McCarthy may step in and
play really well. I'd love to see it, to be honest,
I don't care who they starts to really, to be honest,

(21:19):
I think Wentz gives them the best chance to win
this week right now, right now, because what I saw
with McCarthy, he was simply did everybody not watch? He
was simply awful for seven awful. He looked like he'd
never played the position before. So if you expect that
to change against Philadelphia, maybe it will. Philadelphia just lost
two games in a row. They're on a bit of

(21:39):
a they're in a tizzy. They're struggling a lot of times.
Look at the Bills. Last night, Bill's lost with Atlanta.
How about Deuce spread swing. He took Atlanta, and I
finally I mocked him unmercifully My energy or on Thursday
spreads Origin Atlanta one Bears, lou beat the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It changes, every kid does.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
And so if you want to write off the season
and the Vikings end up going to the playoffs, you
can't root for him. You're out because you don't, because
you're right, you've already told me you're writing off. I've
had what I don't get, I've had hundreds, hundreds of emails.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I'm me telling people I've written off the season already.
We're not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Okay, if that's what you want to do, we might
be committing to JJ McCarthy at halftime of the Eagles.

Speaker 8 (22:25):
And by the way, the the pro JJ McCarthy group,
they're all they all seemingly are saying, we want to
see what he what he has as opposed to he
gives us the best chance to win.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
And that's.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
When you're at three and two, you need to give
the quarterback has the best chance of winning. Yea, And
maybe it does JJ.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Maybe it does JJ.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
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Speaker 1 (23:29):
Couple thirteen fourteen.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
Pastime comedies tend to be the legendary one. Mark Rosen
is here, by the way, here's the dollar I owe you.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, thank you. It took you long enough to give
me the give me the well you didn't, Well, I.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
Was waiting for the Brewers, the Brewers. You had totally
written the Brewers off.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Well, you did not think they would meet the nlcs
and ask why I made the bed because here's what
I've learned about you.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
You still got that kid. Well, no, you know you
have that that that.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
TV mentality that was, Well, what happens is the the
the the consultants tell the TV people you have to
feel the pain of minnial and the joy and you
have to be like you're you're the good That's why
they always called Cec already.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
The good neighbor. You're just like their neighbors. Never told that.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
So so you have to hate everything Wisconsin, No I don't, Well,
no you do, and so you don't like the Bruce
told that. And then the other thing is and then
the other thing is is because the Brewers are that
small market to they're just like that.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
They're like, they're like the Twins as far as market size, and.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Then they've just they know what they're doing right and
so the.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
And you didn't want to admit that because you wanted
to be the Twins so badly.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
That's why I was like taking candy from a baby.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I had watched this Milwauke I had watched this Milwaukee
team play baseball, and I've been following them.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You I knew they were going to get to the
national wing. Uh when the Brewers were when they had
Hank Aaron and Eddie Matthews, Well that was yeah, that
was back when they just said, you have watched a
lot of Perry Mason in your time, Yes, I have,
because he never lost the case and you are very
much like him because you just kind of make stuff
up as you go along. Well, but that's okay, I

(25:12):
kind of you know, it's it's it's funny. I get
a kick out of it. And I was definitely rooting
for the Brewers last night. You were, oh, yeah, I
want to. I mean, I the Dodgers always, I mean
the Dodgers were never like my team but I think
right now with you know, and that's why I think
Seattle is probably going to get a lot of love
that they continue to do what they're doing against Toronto

(25:33):
leading to nothing and Jorge Polanco keeps hitting home runs,
we run homers off of Louis Varlan. Yeah, it would
be I think people wanted. Seattle's never won a World
I don't think they've even been to World Series, have they?
And the Brewers you talked about, they beat the Dodgers
what six times this year during the regular season, but
they're playing at home last night and they got close.

(25:53):
Well they were. I'm not going to compare.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Snell's pitching performance of Jack Morris Game so in nineteen
ninety one, because that was Game seven. It was ten
innings of shut up ball. But he was masterful last night.
I stopped watching football to watch it was so much.
When when it comes to baseball, yep, I picked my
spots with all sports. I'm not gonna waste my time
with just another Monday Night tunes the regardless of what

(26:18):
night they play. But when you see a pitching performance
like last night, so that's what I like in baseball.
I like, But you and Snell was eight innings, one hit,
ten strikeouts. He was he was sparkling last night. He
scattered one hit, as Meat Sauce would say, and meet Sauce,

(26:39):
and he scattered one hit.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
And it was simply it was. It was fun to watch.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
And if you pitch like that and play defense, you
give yourself.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
A chance to win the ball game. Another chance tonight. Yeah,
they got a lot of chances. Well, I'm just saying
they play right again tonight. Cly Mariner's Blue Jays are
not They're going there on the way to Seattle. But yeah,
it was. Yeah, look at the I'm not saying the
Dodgers are smug, but because they won it last year
and they look at that that lineup and it just

(27:06):
stacked and they just there. They hit the clutch, Freddy
Freeman as Freddy Freeman, and you know they got Mookie
Batsy going on the line and the pitching they had.
They brought in the rookie kid to try to finish
it off, and he had trouble. I can't remember who
was up with the Brewers with the bases loaded and
the last inning, but he struck out. Yeah, but he
could have taken There was a pitch that went inside
and your instincts are to get out of the way.

(27:28):
But he could have easily, as they said, taken one
for the team and just stood there and they would
have allowed it he had the ball gone off his
left knee. I think he was a left hander. But
then the next pitch he'd kind of chased and that
was game set. Match was over. But the only game one.
Maybe they'll bounce back tonight. But yeah, it was a
lot going on last night. I don't think my remote,
Like a lot of sports fans were getting getting an
extra workout last night. So you were bouncing around sports

(27:50):
sports line. Yeah, I was doing the sports sports sports thing,
trying to you know, Wilt.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Well.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's good too that that couldn't break it up a
little bit. But No, I was watching, uh the Bears
game mostly and they came back and followed away. I
thought it was going to be typical Chicago Bears. I
thought the kid was going to miss the field goal. No,
this this is a different Bears team.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
They have a different coach, they have a they've they've
added to the roster this well, they just they've.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Won three in a row right now. They're the hottest
team in the in the division. You can't. Are they
are tied with the Vikings. Yeah, I just still thought
they'd find a way because I.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Think Ben Johnson is uh. I don't know if he's
gonna win Coach of the Year. I don't know if
he's gonna have a long and illustrious career with the Bears.
But I just think, I I I think, I think,
I think he knows what he's doing, and I don't
now they they get a little lucky last night. Yeah,
they got the fumble on by Jaden Daniels on their
final drive. Or it's not Chicago didn't cause that fumble.

(28:50):
He just dropped the scene.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yes, Yeah, Well they got the Saints at home this
week to Chicago, so they should be in pretty good shape.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
They'll be a really good ship. They'll be they will
be formed. Two kiddies have their hands full. They're gonna
have to take on Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay at home.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I don't know who Green Bay has. I did not
check green Bay coming up. They play, they play at Arizona.
I don't know if Murray's coming back, But the right now,
they seem like they're better with the Kobe brill Jan.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Cardinals can win, but I would expect that the Packers
to win. They could go to four one on one
and then your Vikings club, after a bye week, will
be taking on the Philadelphia Eagles here at home. And
do you think it's Carson Wentz or do you think
it's JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Who do you think you want? You you want to
see McCarthy, Well, of course I want to see McCarthy.
But he's he's so far.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
I mean, he's been practicing. We don't know if he's
been practicing. Yeah, I mean he's been pride this week. Yeah,
he participatet h I got instinct says it's probably Carson,
but I hope it's JJ. But he needs a whole
he's so far behind the eight ball, I mean starting
last season. I mean we talked about the development these

(30:00):
young quarterbacks and there's been a whole batch of them,
of course, and Drake May can understand why New England
was not about to give him up in the draft
is he's really finding hitting his stride and it takes time.
And fortunately JJ lost an entire year last year of
having practice. He was a lot of practice with the
team and that's that's that stunted his development. I think

(30:22):
in terms of getting ready for the NFL game. It's
not like he can't play catch up. It's not like
you can't play at this level. But I think if
you read between the lines and what Koc was saying,
there's the ankle injury. Then there's the mechanics, which he
keeps bringing up when when asked about the mechanics and
the little things that he's still working on and some
of the stuff. We even saw a training camp that

(30:42):
he just hasn't been able to kind of finesse his
way through because of lack of you know, playing time.
Then he gets hurt again.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
So I don't know. I mean, it's KOs knows better
the rest of us, and he's the nful well I think, so,
I mean I would trust that he does and along
with the offensive coordinator and that they know where he's
at mechanically, and also obviously the doctors rely on the
health part. You know, the storyline would be good with
obviously great storyline with Wentz playing his former team and
the Eagles are banged up there, they got to be

(31:11):
questioning a little bit what what's going on with them?
They're not a formidable as offensive team as they were,
but you know, ask not to suggest that they all
of a sudden can't turn Saquon Barkley loose on them
on the Vikings defense and go after him. That's what
they're going to try to do. There's no question about it.
They that's their bread and butter. That's what they've been missing,
and that's why they've been struggling and they can't run

(31:33):
the ball. Their defense is banged up. You know that,
you know the usual suspects. But yeah, I mean, I
I don't know. It's silly until we see tomorrow and
what we what we see had practice tomorrow and what
what Koc might reveal, what the reporters who have a
little accessive little peak at that. Normally on Wednesday you'll
hear from starting quarterback. But you know that chaos he's

(31:55):
got he's going to tell us the media of the fans. Uh,
he's got his own time to and then he's got
the timetable for the media and the fans. So yeah,
I don't know what to say other than he's starting
Carson once. I would probably think so I would think
he probably would go, why would you start? Is it
a hell thing?

Speaker 7 (32:12):
Or do they don't trust him. They still think they're
in this thing.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I don't don't.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I think it's because they I think at three and
two you still feel like you And he was so
bad for those seven quarters. His mechanics are a mess.
Like you say, you can't in good conscious look at
the other fifty two players and go let's go back
in there and let's get our kids in the experience, especially.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
After the drive that Wentz finished with. I mean, I'm
not saying that's the only reason, the sole reason you
start him, but that was an impressive performance that he had,
thankfully to pull that game out against Cleveland. But it
seems like it's a combination. And because McCarthy's just behind,
as I said, he's behind the eight ball with other things,
it's not like you can't throw them out there and
learn on the job. Learning of the job is not

(32:50):
what this Viking team monster needs right now when they're well,
they must have.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Here's what I don't understand. Sure there were some and
this is kind of a I guess you got me
because they went into the season with McCarthy was going
to be the starting quarterback. So they must have thought
McCarthy was going to be because they they invested in
the interior of the defensive and offensive lines, because they're

(33:17):
coming up a fourteen and three season. They could have
had Darnold didn't want him. They could have had Danny Dimes.
They didn't want him. Rogers as a professional courtesy and
because they're pals. O'Connell had had a conversation with Rogers,
but in the end basically said, hey, Aaron lovea good

(33:38):
luck to you, but we're going with JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
We're going with the young guy.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
So if that was indeed what they wanted to do,
I don't know why they would change now then other
than he other than they feel like, whoa, they'll changed
in the context of well, if you were going into
this season with McCarthy, they were, they started McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Right, Well, then why don't you not go back? Why
wouldn't you not go back to Well, they all might,
I mean, and I think that that's the you know,
the quandary a little bit only because when you talk
with those other quarterbacks who are playing at a much
higher level right now, who have a lot more reps,
a lot more games, it's for the most part just
takes time. And that's the Vikings don't have the luxury

(34:19):
of that. At the same time, how do you get
those reps? How do you get that experience by sitting
on the bench with a baseball cap on? You know,
it's it. And then you know, you look at the schedule.
You know, Eagles are still the Eagles. They go you know,
they play the Chargers on a short week and then
on the road, then they go to Detroit to play
the Lions or are still the best team of this division.
And it's a tough grind for any quarterback, but you

(34:43):
can You're not gonna, you know, as they said, you
throw them to the Wolves. You throw them in there
and say, well, go get some more experience because this
is what we signed up for. It's just the whole
idea that they losing last year really sucked. He's for
Jade McCarthy. It just did. I mean, not that he
would have necessarily started all the games, but that put
them behind all the other quarterbacks were watching right now,

(35:05):
but pro and con and that young class. McCarthy's behind
all of them because of the for no other reason,
and the fact that he just hasn't had the playing
time or the practice time. More importantly, and that's not
a reflection on you. You got to be patient, as
they say, you just have to those rookie class quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Or was it was McCarthy the fifth or the sixth taken?
I mean you remember, was it five or six McCarthy?
How many were taking after? Okay, so five quarterbacks of
the four that played last year, because they all played
correct belief, So Daniels was the only one that was
really really good almost started. Yes, right, that's correct, Kaylen

(35:46):
Williams struggled a lot. You know you can for whatever reasons.
I think part of the reason Williams struggled was because
that offensive line wasn't very good.

Speaker 7 (35:55):
I don't and the coach has gone I he must
not be you know.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I mean, look, the head coach of the Viking says
organizations failed quarterbacks more often than quarterbacks fail organizations, And
maybe what happened there was the organization failed with him.
He's played better this year. He's got a different offensive
coordinator is supposed to be a genius.

Speaker 7 (36:13):
Blah blah blah. They have offensive lineup.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Nick's last year. Did did he start in the season
he had a decent yeah, Oh, he got better as
the season went on. Okay, and then who else Drake
May was?

Speaker 6 (36:26):
He just.

Speaker 8 (36:28):
He had some encouraging moments but had nothing to work well.
The team was awful and then obviously didn't start right Okay,
it came on.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
And so on. One guy of the those four was
pretty much, really really good all season. That was one
so over the ASA McCarthy would have been. I don't know,
I mean, from what we've seen this year, I would
have said he probably would have struggled to begin last year.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Maybe not, I don't know, but probably. Yes, young quarterbacks do.
And that's that's it. That's the point. But now so
is this legitimately that the starting point for J J
McCAT you know, the rest of his career. We saw
one quarter from him so far, and we've seen things.
I saw him at practice. There are times like remember
we had there out there for those those scrimmages they

(37:09):
had against Was that in New England this year? Yeah? Uh,
first day not good, second day a lot better. And
that was kind of what we've seen so far. And
if you can't stay healthy, it's pretty tough to move
that needle. And and that's why I just can't I mean,
may I can imagine anything if he has a good

(37:29):
week of practice, kose, you may start him. If not,
you go with the guy who just went nine for
nine in the last drive, and you know he's going
to be fired up to play his old team and
got the experience, and they got they got bodies back.
They're going to get bodies back on their offensive line.
They got Blake Cashman coming back. I mean they you know,
at this day and age with you looking at the injury,

(37:51):
I'm not I like this team, but they're not a
super Bowl team caliber team right right now. They're not.
They're just not.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I mean you mean just for this as we go
to this waker mean for the season right now, for
the season. No, but I mean do you think do
you think this this season can still well.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
They can, there'll be I think there'll be a playoff team.
I don't see them being an upper echelon team because
of the I mean, for all the reasons. I think,
look at Nick Foles won a super Bowl in our
building here. If I recall so their quarterbacks that Trent
Dilford has won a super Bowl, you can win with
Brad Johnson's won a super Bowl, yeah exactly, And Sam
Donald led them how many wins last year and then
you know obviously they had he had issues in them,

(38:31):
strikedown and won a Super Bowl. So it just doesn't
feel right now. But this this league is so crazy
and we've watched the time and time again when you
look at the teams that look at who thought that
you know that that you know Tampa Bay and and
what Baker Mayfield is doing. How many teams gave up
on Baker Mayfield. He's gone through you know, a handful. Yeah,

(38:52):
I mean, and you know Donald's gone through. There's other
quarterbacks in the same situation. So it's the predictability. The
injuries are are great, you know, they even things out
and to a great extent. Look at Philip in Philadelphia's
dealing with a lot of stuff. Jalen Carter. I was
just talking to Pa. He was working at his desk
which I'd never see UH and he was working on

(39:14):
when literally fifteen minutes ago a PA was working on
his his UH depth chart.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
He wasn't Pa. It was somebody that just looked like him.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
No, it actually never after I know, That's why I
was surprisedly, you know where I sit where he sits,
and what do you worry. Well, I didn't realize that
Carter didn't play, and he was talking with some guys
that are banged up for Philly, and so you know
that doesn't mean that biking you. And then and it's
pretty much a toss up game. The Eagles are point

(39:43):
and a half.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
I love quarterback conjurer is my favorite thing in the world,
my favorite contract. I know it is my favorite quarterback
conjurc in the of all time was Bart Star and
Tobin wrote, and they.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Went with Bart. They did go with Bart but that
was a great and I was a toought you could
say Johnny and I moral I was a big Tobin wrote, guy,
you were mine was Let's say they start Wentz this week, okay,
and let's say Wentz is really good. I mean Wentz
has a.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Game where he's you know, the old seventeen for twenty five,
a couple of tuddies, no interceptions, really nice qbr ready
he's not you know, no, he's not forty for forty
five for seven hundred yards, but he's he's really good,
leads a team to victory, and McCarthy's ankle is going
to be better by the father if it's not ready
I think it's already fine now.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
But if it's it's going to be ready by that.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Would you do you think they'll go with McCarthy then,
or at four and two and when's coming up another wind?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Do you think they go with Carson Wentz because it's
a short week. I'd be surprised if they didn't go
back to continue with Carson Wentz because a short week.
One game, well it's a Thursday night game. No, it
is one game. Then he potentially could bring JJ in,
depending what happens a lot of the Thursday night game.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
Once this is really good again, Well, I'm just saying,
what if it is?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I don't want to answer that. I mean, I'm being
honest with you. I don't know how to answer it.
I don't know what the mindset of both Quasi and
more importantly Koci is to say, we got to get
this guy under center, and we're not going to do
this just in practice. He's got to get game if
he's playing catch up right now, they said missing all
of last year really hurt it.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Say if one starts the extra games and they losing both,
there's plenty of time to see J. J. Mccar. No,
there is you're right, then they would be three and
four and they would probably be behind the eight ball.
Oh yeah, definitely, And then you can go, well maybe
not maybe Green Bay and Detroit continue to lose.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Detroit's got Tri's not gonna continue to lose. They're too good. Well,
they're just too hot, are they gonna? They loft Shandas
City the other night. That's still as Dallas.

Speaker 7 (41:40):
Their defense is in shambles again.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Their secondary they lost to shambles last year and they
won how many fourteen games? Fifteen games?

Speaker 4 (41:47):
They've lost five players again doesn't secondary?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
One got suspended and now that's six, but doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (41:58):
They're going to get beat Well yeah, because they're gonna
get the Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
They could put up forty one points though they didn't.

Speaker 7 (42:03):
They put up seventeen the other night, until they put
up You take the name back with a little disc
at lamp.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Got a number of other topics to talk to Mark
Rosen about here on the comment Man program on the
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