November 17, 2025 • 41 mins
Common Man Hour 3 --Emotional FFW --Charch Calls In! --Fantasy Football Drafts --QB Conundrum
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
A couple thirteen fourteen past Common Man program I'm Common
He Is Tanna Be.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It was a very historic weekend here at the Fan
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Much to my chagrin disappointment, Fantasy Football Weekly the very
last episode ever aired this past Saturday. I guess the
word the best word to describe a Saturday show was emotional.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I heard that grown men were crying as they.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I listened to the episode. I'm a big fan of
Fantasy Football Weekly. It's one of my favorite podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
As they bid a do to one another after a
hell of a run it started. It was nineteen ninety
five here on the Fan, and I was a part
of it. I remember it. That's why I remember when
I started Eiety five.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yes, I was. I was the go to guy.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
When they needed to have assistance on shows. For instance,
they wanted me to work with Craig Warreon because Craig
had had no radio experience. Craig Chad Hartman did Tee
de Green on Tuesday nights when the station first started.
He did not want to spend Tuesday nights talking golf.
He recommended Craig Warring, the master professional and now a
very dear friend of mine. Also remember the Minnesota Golf
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Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I was the one that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Presented Craig. He asked me if I would present him
at the Hall of Fame ceremony. That was emotional for
me that he actually asked me if I would do
the little speech about Craig. And they asked me, hey,
would you be interested in co hosting te degree with Craig,
you know, because they wanted a radio guy that knew
how to get in and out of breaks and such
like that set the show up everything. I said, sure,
I'd be happy to do that. Then I was approached by.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Management.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
They said, hey, we want to do a Tuesday Night
Viking show with the superstar Mike Morris, a Vikings related
show for an hour or two. I think it was
two hours, six to six to eight, I believe, and
we wanted.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We're gonna do it at Joe Sensors, and we're gonna
call it Vikings Uncensored at Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Now, I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I had no idea the show was called Vikings Uncensored
because it was that Joe Sensors.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Get it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I remember Doug Westman at a promo running that says,
Tuesday Night, since Vikings Uncensored at Joe sens get it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And I thought, to us, get what.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
There's nothing to get except get over to Joe Censors
to watch the show. But they asked if I would,
if I would again, because the superstar had no radio
experience as far as taking it in and out of breaks.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
They needed somebody to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And then the station also asked me if I would
participate in a show called Fantasy Football Weekly with Paul
Charching and Rob fifthean same exact situation. Paul and Rob
had never done radio before. So the the the the
getting in and you know, the formulaaics of radio. They
they they weren't familiar with it, and would I do that?
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I said sure, and we used to do the show
out at Mystic Lake early in the morning. We were
at eight o'clock in the morning was when the show
would start, and I would.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I would during breaks, I'd go over to the slot
machines and play slots. Right, you couldn't go to a
blackjack table or anything, because you know, you have to
get in and out too quick. But all of a sudden,
I go, let's go to back more fantasy football. After this,
we'd go to break and we were right by the
slow machines. I'd go over there and put money in
and play slow machines. And then finally, much like I
would compare myself, I think I was the fantasy football
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whisperer or the radio host whisperer, teaching these people how
to walk on their own right.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It was like fifthy in and charts.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
We're on radio training wheels, and I took the training
wheels off and then they were able to go their
own way.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
We're getting them to their lips with the microphone.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Exactly much like the feet with the eyes from McCarthy.
The same thing the lips with the microphone, and they
were able to do it. And then finally I said,
you know what, proud of you guys, man, I think
you're ready to go on your own. And then I
stepped aside because you know me, I don't like the attention,
I don't like the adulation.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I don't like any of that. So I stepped away
and they did the show.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And so after all those years, it came to a close,
and during a segment of the show, Paul Charchi and
spent some time thank you all the people he worked with.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I thought we'd give that a listen and see what
he has to say about me.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I don't know Ferre in the exact right spot you
wanted to be, but hold on you absolutely.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
As I mentioned at the outset of the show, Fantasy
Football Weekly is turning a new page. Fantasy Life owns
the show, and starting next week they'll bring you a
new version of Fantasy Football Weekly, hopefully launching another thirty
one years. I want to thank the various stations that
picked up Fantasy Football Weekly and syndication. It's been amazing
to hear our show in markets across the country, and
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a very heartfelt thanks to my co host Matt Harrison,
Brian Johnson, Scott Fish, Thorne Eystrom. You got Kent Wyrock.
Fantasy Football Weekly Listeners is a labor of love.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
I know you.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Can hear the absurd level of preparation and dedication that
goes into every episode. They have brought insight, laughs, and
hopefully some fantasy football wins you might not have otherwise
had perhaps exactly nine of those fantasy football wins.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
He done mentioning the people.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
These guys aren't co workers, they are friends. My love
and camaraderie that we have between us was obvious to you,
the Listeners. If I get hit by a cement mixer,
I would like you guys to be my pallbearers, which
would be fitting since you've been carrying my carcass on
this show for years.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Thank you also to the past hosts.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I sincerely apologize anybody I have missed, but I think
I've got them over thirty one years, John the Commissioner,
Heber Meyer, Rob Fifthy, and Rick Kamlo, Bo Mitchell, Jeff
Haydoc Ben Vickers, Christian Peterson.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
John Tuvey, and even Colin mc cockney.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Robbie Rosenhaus has been our engineer for the past several years.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Keep going there.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
He's helped us with the absurd collige An sounds on
the show. His dedication has made this show better. I
want to thank kfa n's original station manager, Doug Westerman,
who greenlt Fantasy Football Weekly in its earliest roughest form
when there was not any Fantasy Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Remember that.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
We were just a who should I start calling show
back then, and Doug put Fantasy Football Weekly on the air,
and he kept us on the air. In our first years,
Fantasy Football Weekly was a live show in front of
an early arriving Saturday morning audience on site at mystical
La Twin Cities, and our bleary eyed, unpaid intern would
arrive at the casinos in the morning to set up
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our ISDN connection and try to keep us on the
air from the casino, which was a surprisingly tough challenge
of the nineties. Over the years, that intern rose through
the ranks, got promoted repeatedly, and eventually turned into objectively
the single best station manager in the country, and that
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is Chad Abboit a amazing Chad Abbit has been connected
to the show for all thirty one years. His support,
advice promotion of Fantasy Football Weekly has been invaluable, including
helping with our syndication and eventual micro.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Up.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Thank you so so much, Chad Abbatt.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I adore you, oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
But most of all, I want to thank you.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Here we go.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
You are listeners together.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
We've had years of laughs, wins, losses, and bowel loosening
levels of existential dread.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He's getting emotional, isn't he.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
You've been there for all of it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Your loyalty to Fantasy Football Weekly was the driving force
behind all of our episodes, by my count, eight hundred
and eighteen of them. I was a part of a
bunk a final peacock for you. Third ear, listeners of
Fantasy Football Weekly, just worry man?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Is that some bit from the show I have listened
in a while?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, he must get to me kidding, No, it's over.
That's where it ends.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He mentioned every single person that's worked here radio station, pretty.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Much, people that worked at Mystic Lake Casino.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He was mentioning the people that on on the janitorial
crew that clean up the radio station at night.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
He doesn't mention me though.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
The show was first Fantasy Football Week in starring the
common Man Dan Cole, along with Paul Charging and Rob Fifthian.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
He must did he forget? I see, I get it. Okay,
that's how soon they forget.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I mean, I mean, I'm staying with you. You meant
so much, you sent you like a personal text or call.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Didn't get even on the right. No, no, didn't get
a text or a call.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Sad really well with that. I guess we'll just come,
We'll take a break. And I'm getting a little emotion. Launch.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I was left out of Thank Yous. I've got feelings too.
I feel like I was a big artist. Launch a
fantasy football weekly.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know I'm not an.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
I gotta go to.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
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Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm told by a couple of thirteen fourteen people tend
to be that. Indeed, you cannot use a goal post
for celebrations. That is the problem. That is Jamo.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
They call him how they call him in Detroit, and
the nickname for the things everything is Jamo, so they
Jamo decided to use. If you remember tennyb I've brought
up on a number of occasions as a as an
astute observer of the Lions, I've always kind of wondered
about him. I mean, he had to play yesterday. You
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watching that game when he gets the ball and who
did the game was Collinsworth and he was right. It's
not even so much about you know, doing the fly
patterns and beating the receiver down the field, getting it
on those crossing routes.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, and then the.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Ability to just his acceleration and his speed. You can't
catch you. Your mama can't catch him, your daddy can't
catch him. The police can't catch him. They can't stop him.
But he also makes the boneheaded play. There was the
game against the Commanders last year in the playoffs. Not
that this play probably would have changed the complexion of
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down to the Commanders, but Ben Johnson did the old
had the wide receiver throw a pass right. Well, what
you need to tell the wide receiver though, is if
the if the guy you're if the intended target is
being quadruple covered, don't throw the ball, just throw it
away or run with your speed. He decided to throw it.
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And if you remember the play, it was funny. We
almost look like volleyball because there were so many defensive
backs up there. There was a there was there was
a bump, set spike, and then the interception.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So four guys touched the ball.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They did a volleyball celebration before the interception was even
a was were celebrating before the interception even happened.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So anyway, so that's what I'm being told.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Also, a couple of people have pointed out we were
talking about Long Island iced teas. Half a shot of vodka,
half a half a shot of gin, half a shot
of light Rum, half a shot of triple sec Phil was.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Sweet and so our mix, and then add a dash
of cola.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
To give the iced tea appearance, because you know, iced
tea has sort of like a little bit of a
brown color too, because the tea leaves are brown.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I think is how it works all the tea leaves
are brown.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Are brown?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, this guy is gray.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Here's a another text message courtesy of the Bride.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
That's the news sounders. Sorry, there's no breaking news. I
have none for you.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Common crying about having to do eight more weeks of
Tea Green and passing off like he cares about Fantasy
Football's classic. They're not going to extend Tita Green for
eight more weeks. I wish they would actually, I like
going to the golf course and talking golf and playing golf.
They're not going to extend. I mean they're trying to.
They've they're they've tried to eliminate Tea Green for years.
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But it generates I means, it doesn't generate the most
money of uh. I mean of the of the various
specialty radio shows. You know, we have specialty radio shows
in the Zone, Fan Outdoors, Fantasy Football Weekly, Tita Green,
Sunday Sermons.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They are all sorts of what you used to host
them beyond the be on the Pond. All of those
shows are our ancillary shows or auxiliary shows or extra
show specialty shows, and they all generate money.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And Tita Green does generate money, but they always want
to cut it off.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Matter of fact, they Abbott added one in August and
I complained about having to do an extra show.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So it's quite frankly.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's it's it's just really not to I'll do whatever
they want me to do.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I do like doing them, quite frankly.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Here, here's hold on, I'm sorry, there's so many of
them coming in here. Oh, it says, not only do
they not recognize your work on Fantasy Football Weekly, but
they don't recognize your anniversaries working there either. Do they
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even know that you're on the air three hours a day.
I'm not sure they do. The way they forget about
y'all is crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Haha. I love when you do these. Well, I don't
want to do them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Oh well, look who called in Paul Charchy in host
of the now defunk Fantasy Football Weekly.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
How are you, my friend?
Speaker 9 (15:36):
Well, I'm doing well.
Speaker 10 (15:38):
I think I think have been grossly taken out of
context here. Even though you've played the entirety of my speech,
I'm still going to claim it was entirely out of context.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, what do you mean it was entirely out of content?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You were you were, you were recognizing and thanking all
the previous.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Hosts of the show, and I was the very first
tust you.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Rob fifty of my self live for Mystic Lake Casino.
And then yeah, I didn't hear my name mentioned and
there at all chat abb but the the intern engineer
was mentioned, but I wasn't mentioned yet.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
That is up actually correct.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
Now, what you may have forgotten is that at the
end of that first season, and by the way, we're
unclear if it was ninety four or ninety five, and maybe.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
You have better memory than I do.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
You think you sort of play it safe and use.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
Ninety five as our presumed time.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
You may have forgotten that when we finally got to
the end of that first year of taking nothing but
who should I start calls from Mystic Lake at eight
in the morning, you turned to me and said, let
us never speak of this again. And I took that
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literally really just sort of erased your participation from this
show from my mind, scrubbed it completely. And I don't
blame you for not wanting to be a part of it.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
I don't blame you.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I not the way it was phrased. I didn't say,
I don't know you're misremembering. It's sort of like how
you misremembered how you booted me from your fantasy football
league the year after I finished five hundred, which the
previous year I won the championship. But you couldn't bump
me from the show or from your league because I
won the championship, and then the next year when I didn't,
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I was not invited back.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
My franchise lasted two years, and so it's correct. I'm
not saying that I did. I'm not saying that I didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I wouldn't deny that I didn't want to continue doing
Fantasy Football Weekly, but I was a host of the show.
I was there at the very beginning, the very first year,
and I have to admit I was taking a little aback.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I was.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I got emotional here you have heard. I don't know
if you were listening, but I got a I started
to choke up. Not I thought I was an important
part of the beginning of Fantasy Football Weekly, and I
was cast aside as if I didn't even exist.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
Yeah, that's that's basically true.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
In a lot of ways. In my mind, you did
not exist.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
And.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
I think that's probably pretty accurate. Now, your role on
the show was really just called screener you would take.
You would bring somebody up.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
On the show.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
You'd be like, hey Bob, you're on the van, and
then I would do all the work myself, Rob Fifthian,
we'd actually answer the questions. So in my mind, you
are more of a call screener than an actual host
that show.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, your memory again is really bad, because without me,
there is no Fantasy Football Weekly, there's no guillotine. You're
not a multi millionaire, you're not living in Utah. I
was the driving force line. I was the guy that
would say, hey, welcome back to Fantasy Football Weekly on
the common Man Dan Cole along with Rob Fifthian and
Paul Charchy and what do we have?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now's it?
Speaker 7 (19:01):
So?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I was there and I certainly added my two cents.
I thought I did it. I thought I was instrumental.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I thought it was I was Kevin O'Connell, you were
JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I was showing why do I why.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Do I have to be the JJ McCarthy in this relationship?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I mean, can't can't you be.
Speaker 11 (19:18):
The JJ McCarn I could be the Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
No, because I was the veteran.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
They asked, because again, much like some of the other
shows on the fan, the hosts You and fifty and
had no radio experience, so they wanted to have somebody
that could lead it, get it in and out of break,
set it up professionally. I did it for Tita Green,
I did it for Vikings on Censored at Joe at
Joe Censors and I also did it for Fantasy Football Weekly.
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That's why I was hired. I was I was, I was.
I was talk show host whisperer. I was like Kevin O'Connell.
You guys were on training wheels, and then I got
you guys, and then once you grew sprouted your wings,
I moved aside because I knew it was your show
and it was it was about you'd I had I
have the wine, the women in the song. I had
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my own radio show. I didn't need Fantasy Football Weekly more.
I did it for you and Rob. That's why I
did it.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
I love that us.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
You're a king maker of sorts.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, really exactly right, And that's all you needed to say.
Hey want to thank Common for helping us spread our
wings that every begin just a quick little mention would
have been kind of nice.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Now, how about this, though, Common, how many segments have
my preposterous statements over the year, or for you.
Speaker 12 (20:39):
There's been a lot, a lot, a lot I have
given back in multiple ways, far more segments.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I've given you than you've.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
Given me because of the preposterous statement tournament. And you
might be thinking, how many more segments?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Hundreds, hundreds, Well, congratulate, congratulations on a thirty plus year run.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You you you you turned.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
A a just a hobby that people had. I don't
even know who first invented fantasy football, if it was
you or if it was somebody from from somewhere else,
but it's it turned into a burgeoning is that the
right word? Industry, it's made to a wealthy man and
you you've done a great job and congratulating. It's going
to continue, just not under the same umbrella, is that correct?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Well, same same name, same seed, same feats of your subscriber.
You will get the.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
New version with almost all the hosts are changing. Fantasy
Life owns it and they are going to put their
own people on it.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
But we do have.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
Brian Johnson, one of our co hosts, will continue with it,
so he'll be on it. But the the other guys,
Thor and Matt and Kenda Scott.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Where we are We are officially done.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Okay, well you did a hell of a job. It's
nice and now you're riding off into the sunset. And
uh as always, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
It's always fun to chit chat with you.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It is because you know what, because yes, bye bye,
because he he knows.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I really don't care.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I think you figured it out.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I think you figured But.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
There were a lot of people that I mean this one.
This guy said, forget about Marconi. You deserve an Oscar
for that fake crime. At least maybe an Emmy. I
could almost taste the pain in those tears.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Well, this one says.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Anyone that says the Common Man Program is in Ribny
and radio hasn't listening to the last fifteen minutes to
keep up the entertainment way was a nice pears one
ninety eight percent of true too. We'll break, We'll come
back for one more segment to go on The Common
Man Program.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
In the time.
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Speaker 3 (23:27):
So I needed to clear my throat.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I thought my microphone was on, so that I turned
it on and started clearing.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
My throat during your vibe. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
These are the things I passed along to Charge Root fiftieth.
Someone sent a text message that says, common can you
recant that story where Charge kicked you out of the
fantasy football league for winning and.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Not trading your guys?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I'll do the condensed version. Because Paul and I
were becoming friends and working together on fantasy football weekly,
he invited me to participate in his fantasy football league.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Quite the honor.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I'd only played with my buddies, my old drinking buddies, right,
my hate Ashbury guys. And what we would do is
we'd get together somewhere, we'd do a draft. We'd go
our separate ways and then just submit our lineups every week.
I was the clearinghouse guy. I did a little I
did a fantasy football newsletter that actually typed on a
regular type or we had no computers at us back
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in nineteen ninety ninety one. I would type it up
that I'd make copies of it at the radio station
I worked at Forest Lake, fold up the two or
three different pages, and I'd stick it inside an envelope,
and I'd mail it out to each guy. And I
would do things like I would have like one of
our team members was Sean o'marra, the late Shan o'mera,
and so then I would have a story with a
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quote from him, and then I would cut out a picture
of like Chris Carter and then put it in the
newsletter and then identify that as Sean o'marra. And then
of course I would offer a correction the following week.
I would say, last week's ed dish week correctly inidentified
Chris Carter as Sean o'marra. We regret the error, right,
So we had a lot of they was mostly just
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done all tongue and chee can have a lot of fun, right,
and we I don't ever remember ever making a trade,
and if we did, they were few and far between.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Right, I met.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Charges draft they're trading during the draft. They're a high level.
They're so far beyond what I'd ever played before. I
was kind of taken aback. But I didn't even know
that that occurred in fantasy football drafts.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So like, let's say ten, let's say you draft.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You look over to charts right after your picking, go Now,
all trades are the guy I just drafted for one
of your guys or a.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Pick or something like that, and I'm just like, whoa.
These guys are really into it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
So the draft goes, I go my merry way and
start playing and then win a game or two, and
I'm getting calls from the other guys in the league
and they're into it, you know, they're they're asking me
if I'm interested in making a trade, And a lot
of them are those where like let's say I got
Josh Allen as quarterback and they go, hey, hey, Dan,
I see you got Josh Allen as your quarterback and
he's gonna have a buye in two weeks, so you're
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gonna need a backup quarterback. How about this, I'll trade
you JJ McCarthy for Saquon Barkley. What do you think,
Because you're gonna need a quarterback. They were actually trying
to bamboozle. Yeah, right, you offering me these herschel Walker
type trades and I'm just not I think I'll pass
on that. I'm kind of fine with the way I am.
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And next week would come on and get a couple
more trade offers and I dismissed all of it. Well,
then I get a call like eight ten, twelve weeks
into the season from Chart. You're going, you know, we're
kind of wondering. Guys in the league like the trade
and we're wondering why you're not making any trades. I
go on, I'm twelve and oh, kind of like my roster.
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I was undefeated, I was winning every game. But he
made me feel bad. I thought, well, everybody doesn't like
me now, So I got bullied into making a trade,
which actually worked in my favorite because I traded Sanders
and a couple of other players for a couple of
other players and Jerry Rice. And I played Jerry Rice
in the championship game and he caught four touchdown passes
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that I won. Called charges fantasy football, the guy that
knew the least about fantasy football, who cared less than
any of the other people, just playing a long yeah, yeah,
I kind of camaraderything to play with charge. Well, then
they had to invite me back for the next season, right,
even though nobody wanted me.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
But you can't. You're the champ. You have to bring
so the it might be back.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And I had a five hundred season or a couple
of games, and I never got invited for a three season.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
That was it. I was done.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
That's part of the club.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Why aren't you making any trades? Like what, I'm twelve and.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Oh, just so much fun.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm twelve and oh why would I make a trade?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
But Ax, that'd be like saying, you know, somebody call
up you know, a call you know, Kansas City and
go would you trade as Pat Mahomes?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Well, no, we kind of like where we're at.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
We won a couple of big games with them, and
he's really good, so we just think we'll keep them.
Why would I trade any of my pleasant winning game
after game after game. So anyway, one other thing on
the charts thing, and this is from Remove the Internet Interim.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's what I had to do.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
From Remove the Interim label, guy says, if charts learn
anything from you, it was the absurd level of prep
work and dedication from your craft.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
And that's what it was because I did put a
lot of prep work. I always loved that question about that.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Someone else sent a text message and common I was.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
At Tendabee.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I was sorry, I was reading, I said comment. I
was referring to myself only because I was looking. I
was reading an email. But it's not the one or
text message. It's not the one I want. It was
an I wish I could find it here. It's it's
long gone. It was basically when we're you're talking about,
you know, the.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Kevin O'Connell continually talking.
Speaker 13 (29:16):
About the the base, the teaching him the basics of
playing quarterback right, the the the the elementary principles of it,
aligning your eyes and your feed and.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
This and posture and all that. And it's like, and
someone said, you because we talked about this, he went
to that IMG Academy for quarterbacks. Isn't that where you
learn all those things? I mean, look, I'm not I
don't want to pick on the kid, I really don't,
but I'm more picking on the head coach.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Shouldn't these things have been taught to him at I AMG.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Shouldn't shouldn't the the mechanics of playing the position already
be a foregone conclusion. He he's been playing since he
was a little kid. That's all he's ever done is
played football, went to the IMG Academy, played high school football.
Where was it college? He lost as one game with
Michigan or was it or was it high school? Because
they'd only lost one game in all the games he
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started quarterback in high school in pros or high school
in college. So he either lost one high school game
or one college game. You would think the mechanics would
be established by then.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Also, and I've said this a billion times, this is
year two of them. Here.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I get he was injured during the season, but even
once he gets to the regular season, he's on the
scout team behind Sam Darnold last year anyway, most likely,
But you've had two off seasons, two training camps to
work with him on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Case closed, You're right, I don't know. And then.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It begs the question you heard the quote I read
from West Phillips where West basically said the Vikings offensive
coordinated by title anyways, where he said, look said, no,
we're not just.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Just making a game plan.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's the number one goal of this organization isn't to
try to develop JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm paraphrase and he didn't say it that. I can
dig up the quote if you want me to, but.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Basically, we got to do no matter how complicated it is,
we have to do the things we need to do
with that we think will help the team win. It's
more than about developing JJ McCarthy. And I think some
fans lose sight of that because they're just fans and
they know they're going to be here next year as
a fan, five years, ten years, fifty to twenty years.
You know, most people are lifelong fans of their teams,
right well, yeah, but that doesn't sit very well with
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Harrison Smith or Justin Jefferson or any of the other
players that are you know, especially like the offensive lineman
and defensive line. Of the guys are laying on the
line and tearing up their knees and they're injury riddled.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
All year long. It's like, I want the kid to
have a nice career and.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I wanted to help us win, but it's not just
about him, and that becomes a problem. So then you
have to decide, and look, I'm not asking for him
to be ben sure to give up on yet. Yeah,
I don't think you can't. I think that is five
games is way too early for anything.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
There were some people during that game yesterday and that wonder.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
They want Yeah, yeah, Well, remember the coach wouldn't answer
that question yesterday. During the news conference immediately following in
the game, after the twenty minute cooling off period, he
was asked by one of the local media and he said,
I'm not I'm not going to respond to that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'm not going to talk about that right now.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Whether that means he just doesn't want to even give
it any life you want to breathe any life into
a quarterback controversy, or if maybe he really was.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Thinking about it but then decided against it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
If you do, I was talking to do somebody's watching
the game, he'd mentioned, I wonder if you go to Brosemer,
I go If you do that, that's almost you can't
he almost can't go back. I mean you can and
probably would, But I mean, if if you're telling the
kid struggling in his fifth game, kid, we got to
get you out of there because you don't know what
the hell you're doing.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
We're putting Brosemer in that's going to really shatter the case.
I mean, you know, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Maybe this isn't a good example because this player hasn't
exactly flourished. But Carolina did it with Bryce Young last year.
They set him down for a couple of games yea
early in the season and let Andy Dalton take over
the reins and then Bryce Young came back later the season,
did better towards the end of the year. Now that
hasn't necessarily carried over. Now there's six and four won yesterday.
But did you have a really good game?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You did have a good day.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, that's what I thought I saw. So you're right,
you can do that, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And again when we're talking about can we worry about
shattering a kid's confidence when there's fifty two other people
on the team, there's two owners, by the way, and
then there's front office people, and you know, there's there's
a lot of people that are that are invested in
this in this club.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I just saw where who's the kid that's been starting
for the Jets.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Well, it's been Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And he's now being benched. Yes, I just saw that.
They and according to Justin Fields, again.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
They were going to set him a couple of weeks ago,
and then to Rod Taylor got hurt. Okay, so the
owner was basically calling out justin fields publicly. Yes, and
then Taylor gets hurt and they had to go back
to him, and then he had his best game of
the year.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So it's it's it's.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And then you know the the example we bring up
all the time is the Trey Lance kid. I don't
even remember who he was drafted by, but the Niners.
I thought they traded for him.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, they traded picks, three draft picks, three first round
draft picks to move up to get them.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Move up again.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Okay, so they draft them. They didn't waste too much
time they didn't like. You know, how long did they
let him? Did they give him a basic tryou from
the starting position before they said it ain't working.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
And we're moving on with our lives. It wasn't too terribly.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I don't think he started right away if I recalled,
but he might have had some injury stuff too.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
But was that was that so Garoppolo?
Speaker 12 (34:39):
Then?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I think it may have been, but I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I do remember that he didn't. It wasn't like they said,
we got back it's not like they said, we got
to give this guy three years. They they they pulled
the plug. They they they recognized the error of their waves,
of their ways.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
And they moved on to another quarterback. Now that becomes
the question.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
The conundrum is how long do you continue to play
him with the way the season is now. And again
it's that idea of you got to be careful because
other players on the team aren't here to babysit this kid,
because they've got their careers, their hopes, their aspirations, their contracts,
their health and welfare. They can't just worry about the kids.
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So it's a balancing act to how long.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Do you wait?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
And then if you don't have another option, I don't
know if Roseman is a realistic option.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
We like the kid. He went from New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
He had one year in big time college football and
he played really well for the Gophers. He had a
nice season, and then the Vikings like what they saw
when they watched them play with the Gophers. They like
what they saw during a tryout or whatever it was,
and then they went ahead and sign him as an
undrafted free agent. And so maybe he could be really good,
But you know, the chance is that he's going to
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blossom into an everyday back that becomes a franchise course
is probably pretty slim. But so I don't know when
you make that call, it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Us with with Brozmerg Like the professional experience we had
with him is preseason, and I think McCarthy's performances in
preseason is another example of that stuff really doesn't mean
a whole lot. Because McCarthy look pretty good in the
preseason last year. He had his moments in the preseason
this year, and then regular season has not gone the
right way for him.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
So that's where we that's where we stand, Warren, what
do you got? Well?
Speaker 11 (36:36):
I want to back, you know on this quarterback situation
because I was very good friends with down the stream.
He wouldn't have put up with that for more, he
would not have not have put up with it. And
what was the thing that Zimmer said to that guy
they drafted. They asked a question about the quarterbacks and.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
See him in practice all the time.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
I see him in practice, you know, you know, and
that it was my was me going on and if
the kid can't, you know, he gets hurt by saying
we can't. We cannot have our quarterback playing like this.
And what I would do right now, because what do
you have to lose?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Some people out there?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Are you talking from outer space because your phone is
breaking up really bad?
Speaker 11 (37:23):
Your connections a little off today. But the thing about.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
It is if if if you have, if you gave
him the same chances, you give him the same chances
that that JJ's got, and I say he can't do
any worse, you have him in there, and then when
you tell just simply if you know, you know what
I would say if I was the owners, I'd say,
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is this the way you're going to do it?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (37:49):
You and the people out there giving your breaking up.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
We got to let you go. You're breaking up really bad.
We are to text message says I've seen this before.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I've seen it on a on a couple of message boards,
responding to articles in The Fishrap, West Side, east Side
and The Athletic.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
It says McCarthy has seen brilliance here and there, he
is learning. Just need to relax.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
And again, I just it's easy for you as a
fan to say, just relax. How long is this? How
long do we have to wait? When I say we
I'm talking about players on the team. If you're a
player on the team, you're going this is all fine.
But man, I'm laying it on the line.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Every week.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I'm playing for another contract, and if the team's not
playing well, I'm not getting rich. This isn't what I
signed up for. I signed up because I thought we
were going somewhere, and now we're coddling some kid who
can't play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
He's just not that simple. It just relax everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Now, they're going to give him some time and he
may end up developing into the greatest quarterback in the
history of the national football It's always possible, and he
has had moments. He has, but so did Eric Kipple,
and so did Scott and Mitchell. Do you remember Scott
(39:07):
and Mitchell? Scott and Mitchell left handed quarterback nineteen ninety five,
it was ninety four, I believe was the years either
ninety four ninety five. He filled in for the injured
Dan Marino. He had five brilliant games, was named AFC
Offensive Player of the Week of the month, and the
Lions and the Vikings went into a bidding war form
and the Lions won that bidding war. If you want
(39:29):
to call it winning and scott Minster was just okay
at best after that. So that's just a word of
the wise. Yeah, I'm McCarthy's. We don't just relax. It's
easy for you as a fan to say relaxed, but
if you're if you're own the team and you've been
waiting for how many years?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
How many? How many victories did the Vikings have in
postseason for the Wolfs two? Three? Well, I think that's
about it, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Oh nine and seventeen, I think that's it. They have
the one game in New Orleans with Cousins through that
rooteolphers three wins.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
There's three.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Then you got players on the team and he might
be fine. I'm not giving up on him completely. I certainly,
it just seems like he's more regressing than anything. Now
you did have the nice drus As a matter of fact,
I do the hurry up offense with him like the
old Bills used to do with Jim Kelly, because that's
when he seems like he's at his best. Think just
throw drop back, look, throw drop back, look, throw try.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
That probably less koc talking in his ear during that stretch.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
That's exactly right. That is absolutely positive.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Maybe he's being over coached.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Well, when you got the quarterback whisper whispering in your ear,
that'll happen. So let's do this. Let's bid a doo.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
We'll talk to you tomorrow, Tedby, thanks for having me,
great job you as well.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
We're back tomorrow one o'clock. PJ Fletcher are twelve. Newmark
Rosen joins.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Us at two o'clock Big Ticket jj R next right
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
A couple thirteen fourteen past Common Man program I'm Common
He Is Tanna Be.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It was a very historic weekend here at the Fan
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Much to my chagrin disappointment, Fantasy Football Weekly the very
last episode ever aired this past Saturday. I guess the
word the best word to describe a Saturday show was emotional.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I heard that grown men were crying as they.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I listened to the episode. I'm a big fan of
Fantasy Football Weekly. It's one of my favorite podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
As they bid a do to one another after a
hell of a run it started. It was nineteen ninety
five here on the Fan, and I was a part
of it. I remember it. That's why I remember when
I started Eiety five.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yes, I was. I was the go to guy.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
When they needed to have assistance on shows. For instance,
they wanted me to work with Craig Warreon because Craig
had had no radio experience. Craig Chad Hartman did Tee
de Green on Tuesday nights when the station first started.
He did not want to spend Tuesday nights talking golf.
He recommended Craig Warring, the master professional and now a
very dear friend of mine. Also remember the Minnesota Golf
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Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I was the one that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Presented Craig. He asked me if I would present him
at the Hall of Fame ceremony. That was emotional for
me that he actually asked me if I would do
the little speech about Craig. And they asked me, hey,
would you be interested in co hosting te degree with Craig,
you know, because they wanted a radio guy that knew
how to get in and out of breaks and such
like that set the show up everything. I said, sure,
I'd be happy to do that. Then I was approached by.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Management.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
They said, hey, we want to do a Tuesday Night
Viking show with the superstar Mike Morris, a Vikings related
show for an hour or two. I think it was
two hours, six to six to eight, I believe, and
we wanted.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We're gonna do it at Joe Sensors, and we're gonna
call it Vikings Uncensored at Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Now, I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I had no idea the show was called Vikings Uncensored
because it was that Joe Sensors.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Get it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I remember Doug Westman at a promo running that says,
Tuesday Night, since Vikings Uncensored at Joe sens get it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And I thought, to us, get what.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
There's nothing to get except get over to Joe Censors
to watch the show. But they asked if I would,
if I would again, because the superstar had no radio
experience as far as taking it in and out of breaks.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
They needed somebody to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And then the station also asked me if I would
participate in a show called Fantasy Football Weekly with Paul
Charching and Rob fifthean same exact situation. Paul and Rob
had never done radio before. So the the the the
getting in and you know, the formulaaics of radio. They
they they weren't familiar with it, and would I do that?
(03:39):
I said sure, and we used to do the show
out at Mystic Lake early in the morning. We were
at eight o'clock in the morning was when the show
would start, and I would.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I would during breaks, I'd go over to the slot
machines and play slots. Right, you couldn't go to a
blackjack table or anything, because you know, you have to
get in and out too quick. But all of a sudden,
I go, let's go to back more fantasy football. After this,
we'd go to break and we were right by the
slow machines. I'd go over there and put money in
and play slow machines. And then finally, much like I
would compare myself, I think I was the fantasy football
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whisperer or the radio host whisperer, teaching these people how
to walk on their own right.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It was like fifthy in and charts.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
We're on radio training wheels, and I took the training
wheels off and then they were able to go their
own way.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
We're getting them to their lips with the microphone.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Exactly much like the feet with the eyes from McCarthy.
The same thing the lips with the microphone, and they
were able to do it. And then finally I said,
you know what, proud of you guys, man, I think
you're ready to go on your own. And then I
stepped aside because you know me, I don't like the attention,
I don't like the adulation.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I don't like any of that. So I stepped away
and they did the show.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And so after all those years, it came to a close,
and during a segment of the show, Paul Charchi and
spent some time thank you all the people he worked with.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I thought we'd give that a listen and see what
he has to say about me.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I don't know Ferre in the exact right spot you
wanted to be, but hold on you absolutely.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
As I mentioned at the outset of the show, Fantasy
Football Weekly is turning a new page. Fantasy Life owns
the show, and starting next week they'll bring you a
new version of Fantasy Football Weekly, hopefully launching another thirty
one years. I want to thank the various stations that
picked up Fantasy Football Weekly and syndication. It's been amazing
to hear our show in markets across the country, and
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a very heartfelt thanks to my co host Matt Harrison,
Brian Johnson, Scott Fish, Thorne Eystrom. You got Kent Wyrock.
Fantasy Football Weekly Listeners is a labor of love.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
I know you.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Can hear the absurd level of preparation and dedication that
goes into every episode. They have brought insight, laughs, and
hopefully some fantasy football wins you might not have otherwise
had perhaps exactly nine of those fantasy football wins.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
He done mentioning the people.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
These guys aren't co workers, they are friends. My love
and camaraderie that we have between us was obvious to you,
the Listeners. If I get hit by a cement mixer,
I would like you guys to be my pallbearers, which
would be fitting since you've been carrying my carcass on
this show for years.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Thank you also to the past hosts.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I sincerely apologize anybody I have missed, but I think
I've got them over thirty one years, John the Commissioner,
Heber Meyer, Rob Fifthy, and Rick Kamlo, Bo Mitchell, Jeff
Haydoc Ben Vickers, Christian Peterson.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
John Tuvey, and even Colin mc cockney.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Robbie Rosenhaus has been our engineer for the past several years.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Keep going there.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
He's helped us with the absurd collige An sounds on
the show. His dedication has made this show better. I
want to thank kfa n's original station manager, Doug Westerman,
who greenlt Fantasy Football Weekly in its earliest roughest form
when there was not any Fantasy Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Remember that.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
We were just a who should I start calling show
back then, and Doug put Fantasy Football Weekly on the air,
and he kept us on the air. In our first years,
Fantasy Football Weekly was a live show in front of
an early arriving Saturday morning audience on site at mystical
La Twin Cities, and our bleary eyed, unpaid intern would
arrive at the casinos in the morning to set up
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our ISDN connection and try to keep us on the
air from the casino, which was a surprisingly tough challenge
of the nineties. Over the years, that intern rose through
the ranks, got promoted repeatedly, and eventually turned into objectively
the single best station manager in the country, and that
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is Chad Abboit a amazing Chad Abbit has been connected
to the show for all thirty one years. His support,
advice promotion of Fantasy Football Weekly has been invaluable, including
helping with our syndication and eventual micro.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Up.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Thank you so so much, Chad Abbatt.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I adore you, oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
But most of all, I want to thank you.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Here we go.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
You are listeners together.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
We've had years of laughs, wins, losses, and bowel loosening
levels of existential dread.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He's getting emotional, isn't he.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
You've been there for all of it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Your loyalty to Fantasy Football Weekly was the driving force
behind all of our episodes, by my count, eight hundred
and eighteen of them. I was a part of a
bunk a final peacock for you. Third ear, listeners of
Fantasy Football Weekly, just worry man?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Is that some bit from the show I have listened
in a while?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, he must get to me kidding, No, it's over.
That's where it ends.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He mentioned every single person that's worked here radio station, pretty.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Much, people that worked at Mystic Lake Casino.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He was mentioning the people that on on the janitorial
crew that clean up the radio station at night.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
He doesn't mention me though.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
The show was first Fantasy Football Week in starring the
common Man Dan Cole, along with Paul Charging and Rob Fifthian.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
He must did he forget? I see, I get it. Okay,
that's how soon they forget.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I mean, I mean, I'm staying with you. You meant
so much, you sent you like a personal text or call.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Didn't get even on the right. No, no, didn't get
a text or a call.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Sad really well with that. I guess we'll just come,
We'll take a break. And I'm getting a little emotion. Launch.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I was left out of Thank Yous. I've got feelings too.
I feel like I was a big artist. Launch a
fantasy football weekly.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know I'm not an.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
I gotta go to.
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Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm told by a couple of thirteen fourteen people tend
to be that. Indeed, you cannot use a goal post
for celebrations. That is the problem. That is Jamo.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
They call him how they call him in Detroit, and
the nickname for the things everything is Jamo, so they
Jamo decided to use. If you remember tennyb I've brought
up on a number of occasions as a as an
astute observer of the Lions, I've always kind of wondered
about him. I mean, he had to play yesterday. You
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watching that game when he gets the ball and who
did the game was Collinsworth and he was right. It's
not even so much about you know, doing the fly
patterns and beating the receiver down the field, getting it
on those crossing routes.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, and then the.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Ability to just his acceleration and his speed. You can't
catch you. Your mama can't catch him, your daddy can't
catch him. The police can't catch him. They can't stop him.
But he also makes the boneheaded play. There was the
game against the Commanders last year in the playoffs. Not
that this play probably would have changed the complexion of
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down to the Commanders, but Ben Johnson did the old
had the wide receiver throw a pass right. Well, what
you need to tell the wide receiver though, is if
the if the guy you're if the intended target is
being quadruple covered, don't throw the ball, just throw it
away or run with your speed. He decided to throw it.
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And if you remember the play, it was funny. We
almost look like volleyball because there were so many defensive
backs up there. There was a there was there was
a bump, set spike, and then the interception.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So four guys touched the ball.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They did a volleyball celebration before the interception was even
a was were celebrating before the interception even happened.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So anyway, so that's what I'm being told.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Also, a couple of people have pointed out we were
talking about Long Island iced teas. Half a shot of vodka,
half a half a shot of gin, half a shot
of light Rum, half a shot of triple sec Phil was.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Sweet and so our mix, and then add a dash
of cola.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
To give the iced tea appearance, because you know, iced
tea has sort of like a little bit of a
brown color too, because the tea leaves are brown.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I think is how it works all the tea leaves
are brown.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Are brown?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, this guy is gray.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Here's a another text message courtesy of the Bride.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
That's the news sounders. Sorry, there's no breaking news. I
have none for you.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Common crying about having to do eight more weeks of
Tea Green and passing off like he cares about Fantasy
Football's classic. They're not going to extend Tita Green for
eight more weeks. I wish they would actually, I like
going to the golf course and talking golf and playing golf.
They're not going to extend. I mean they're trying to.
They've they're they've tried to eliminate Tea Green for years.
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But it generates I means, it doesn't generate the most
money of uh. I mean of the of the various
specialty radio shows. You know, we have specialty radio shows
in the Zone, Fan Outdoors, Fantasy Football Weekly, Tita Green,
Sunday Sermons.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They are all sorts of what you used to host
them beyond the be on the Pond. All of those
shows are our ancillary shows or auxiliary shows or extra
show specialty shows, and they all generate money.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And Tita Green does generate money, but they always want
to cut it off.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Matter of fact, they Abbott added one in August and
I complained about having to do an extra show.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So it's quite frankly.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's it's it's just really not to I'll do whatever
they want me to do.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I do like doing them, quite frankly.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Here, here's hold on, I'm sorry, there's so many of
them coming in here. Oh, it says, not only do
they not recognize your work on Fantasy Football Weekly, but
they don't recognize your anniversaries working there either. Do they
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even know that you're on the air three hours a day.
I'm not sure they do. The way they forget about
y'all is crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Haha. I love when you do these. Well, I don't
want to do them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Oh well, look who called in Paul Charchy in host
of the now defunk Fantasy Football Weekly.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
How are you, my friend?
Speaker 9 (15:36):
Well, I'm doing well.
Speaker 10 (15:38):
I think I think have been grossly taken out of
context here. Even though you've played the entirety of my speech,
I'm still going to claim it was entirely out of context.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, what do you mean it was entirely out of content?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You were you were, you were recognizing and thanking all
the previous.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Hosts of the show, and I was the very first
tust you.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Rob fifty of my self live for Mystic Lake Casino.
And then yeah, I didn't hear my name mentioned and
there at all chat abb but the the intern engineer
was mentioned, but I wasn't mentioned yet.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
That is up actually correct.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
Now, what you may have forgotten is that at the
end of that first season, and by the way, we're
unclear if it was ninety four or ninety five, and maybe.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
You have better memory than I do.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
You think you sort of play it safe and use.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
Ninety five as our presumed time.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
You may have forgotten that when we finally got to
the end of that first year of taking nothing but
who should I start calls from Mystic Lake at eight
in the morning, you turned to me and said, let
us never speak of this again. And I took that
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literally really just sort of erased your participation from this
show from my mind, scrubbed it completely. And I don't
blame you for not wanting to be a part of it.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
I don't blame you.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I not the way it was phrased. I didn't say,
I don't know you're misremembering. It's sort of like how
you misremembered how you booted me from your fantasy football
league the year after I finished five hundred, which the
previous year I won the championship. But you couldn't bump
me from the show or from your league because I
won the championship, and then the next year when I didn't,
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I was not invited back.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
My franchise lasted two years, and so it's correct. I'm
not saying that I did. I'm not saying that I didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I wouldn't deny that I didn't want to continue doing
Fantasy Football Weekly, but I was a host of the show.
I was there at the very beginning, the very first year,
and I have to admit I was taking a little aback.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I was.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I got emotional here you have heard. I don't know
if you were listening, but I got a I started
to choke up. Not I thought I was an important
part of the beginning of Fantasy Football Weekly, and I
was cast aside as if I didn't even exist.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
Yeah, that's that's basically true.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
In a lot of ways. In my mind, you did
not exist.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
And.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
I think that's probably pretty accurate. Now, your role on
the show was really just called screener you would take.
You would bring somebody up.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
On the show.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
You'd be like, hey Bob, you're on the van, and
then I would do all the work myself, Rob Fifthian,
we'd actually answer the questions. So in my mind, you
are more of a call screener than an actual host
that show.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, your memory again is really bad, because without me,
there is no Fantasy Football Weekly, there's no guillotine. You're
not a multi millionaire, you're not living in Utah. I
was the driving force line. I was the guy that
would say, hey, welcome back to Fantasy Football Weekly on
the common Man Dan Cole along with Rob Fifthian and
Paul Charchy and what do we have?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now's it?
Speaker 7 (19:01):
So?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I was there and I certainly added my two cents.
I thought I did it. I thought I was instrumental.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I thought it was I was Kevin O'Connell, you were
JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I was showing why do I why.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Do I have to be the JJ McCarthy in this relationship?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I mean, can't can't you be.
Speaker 11 (19:18):
The JJ McCarn I could be the Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
No, because I was the veteran.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
They asked, because again, much like some of the other
shows on the fan, the hosts You and fifty and
had no radio experience, so they wanted to have somebody
that could lead it, get it in and out of break,
set it up professionally. I did it for Tita Green,
I did it for Vikings on Censored at Joe at
Joe Censors and I also did it for Fantasy Football Weekly.
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That's why I was hired. I was I was, I was.
I was talk show host whisperer. I was like Kevin O'Connell.
You guys were on training wheels, and then I got
you guys, and then once you grew sprouted your wings,
I moved aside because I knew it was your show
and it was it was about you'd I had I
have the wine, the women in the song. I had
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my own radio show. I didn't need Fantasy Football Weekly more.
I did it for you and Rob. That's why I
did it.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
I love that us.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
You're a king maker of sorts.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, really exactly right, And that's all you needed to say.
Hey want to thank Common for helping us spread our
wings that every begin just a quick little mention would
have been kind of nice.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Now, how about this, though, Common, how many segments have
my preposterous statements over the year, or for you.
Speaker 12 (20:39):
There's been a lot, a lot, a lot I have
given back in multiple ways, far more segments.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I've given you than you've.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
Given me because of the preposterous statement tournament. And you
might be thinking, how many more segments?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Hundreds, hundreds, Well, congratulate, congratulations on a thirty plus year run.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You you you you turned.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
A a just a hobby that people had. I don't
even know who first invented fantasy football, if it was
you or if it was somebody from from somewhere else,
but it's it turned into a burgeoning is that the
right word? Industry, it's made to a wealthy man and
you you've done a great job and congratulating. It's going
to continue, just not under the same umbrella, is that correct?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Well, same same name, same seed, same feats of your subscriber.
You will get the.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
New version with almost all the hosts are changing. Fantasy
Life owns it and they are going to put their
own people on it.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
But we do have.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
Brian Johnson, one of our co hosts, will continue with it,
so he'll be on it. But the the other guys,
Thor and Matt and Kenda Scott.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Where we are We are officially done.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Okay, well you did a hell of a job. It's
nice and now you're riding off into the sunset. And
uh as always, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
It's always fun to chit chat with you.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It is because you know what, because yes, bye bye,
because he he knows.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I really don't care.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I think you figured it out.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I think you figured But.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
There were a lot of people that I mean this one.
This guy said, forget about Marconi. You deserve an Oscar
for that fake crime. At least maybe an Emmy. I
could almost taste the pain in those tears.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Well, this one says.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Anyone that says the Common Man Program is in Ribny
and radio hasn't listening to the last fifteen minutes to
keep up the entertainment way was a nice pears one
ninety eight percent of true too. We'll break, We'll come
back for one more segment to go on The Common
Man Program.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
In the time.
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Speaker 3 (23:27):
So I needed to clear my throat.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I thought my microphone was on, so that I turned
it on and started clearing.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
My throat during your vibe. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
These are the things I passed along to Charge Root fiftieth.
Someone sent a text message that says, common can you
recant that story where Charge kicked you out of the
fantasy football league for winning and.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Not trading your guys?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I'll do the condensed version. Because Paul and I
were becoming friends and working together on fantasy football weekly,
he invited me to participate in his fantasy football league.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Quite the honor.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I'd only played with my buddies, my old drinking buddies, right,
my hate Ashbury guys. And what we would do is
we'd get together somewhere, we'd do a draft. We'd go
our separate ways and then just submit our lineups every week.
I was the clearinghouse guy. I did a little I
did a fantasy football newsletter that actually typed on a
regular type or we had no computers at us back
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in nineteen ninety ninety one. I would type it up
that I'd make copies of it at the radio station
I worked at Forest Lake, fold up the two or
three different pages, and I'd stick it inside an envelope,
and I'd mail it out to each guy. And I
would do things like I would have like one of
our team members was Sean o'marra, the late Shan o'mera,
and so then I would have a story with a
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quote from him, and then I would cut out a picture
of like Chris Carter and then put it in the
newsletter and then identify that as Sean o'marra. And then
of course I would offer a correction the following week.
I would say, last week's ed dish week correctly inidentified
Chris Carter as Sean o'marra. We regret the error, right,
So we had a lot of they was mostly just
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done all tongue and chee can have a lot of fun, right,
and we I don't ever remember ever making a trade,
and if we did, they were few and far between.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Right, I met.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Charges draft they're trading during the draft. They're a high level.
They're so far beyond what I'd ever played before. I
was kind of taken aback. But I didn't even know
that that occurred in fantasy football drafts.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So like, let's say ten, let's say you draft.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You look over to charts right after your picking, go Now,
all trades are the guy I just drafted for one
of your guys or a.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Pick or something like that, and I'm just like, whoa.
These guys are really into it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
So the draft goes, I go my merry way and
start playing and then win a game or two, and
I'm getting calls from the other guys in the league
and they're into it, you know, they're they're asking me
if I'm interested in making a trade, And a lot
of them are those where like let's say I got
Josh Allen as quarterback and they go, hey, hey, Dan,
I see you got Josh Allen as your quarterback and
he's gonna have a buye in two weeks, so you're
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gonna need a backup quarterback. How about this, I'll trade
you JJ McCarthy for Saquon Barkley. What do you think,
Because you're gonna need a quarterback. They were actually trying
to bamboozle. Yeah, right, you offering me these herschel Walker
type trades and I'm just not I think I'll pass
on that. I'm kind of fine with the way I am.
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And next week would come on and get a couple
more trade offers and I dismissed all of it. Well,
then I get a call like eight ten, twelve weeks
into the season from Chart. You're going, you know, we're
kind of wondering. Guys in the league like the trade
and we're wondering why you're not making any trades. I
go on, I'm twelve and oh, kind of like my roster.
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I was undefeated, I was winning every game. But he
made me feel bad. I thought, well, everybody doesn't like
me now, So I got bullied into making a trade,
which actually worked in my favorite because I traded Sanders
and a couple of other players for a couple of
other players and Jerry Rice. And I played Jerry Rice
in the championship game and he caught four touchdown passes
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that I won. Called charges fantasy football, the guy that
knew the least about fantasy football, who cared less than
any of the other people, just playing a long yeah, yeah,
I kind of camaraderything to play with charge. Well, then
they had to invite me back for the next season, right,
even though nobody wanted me.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
But you can't. You're the champ. You have to bring
so the it might be back.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And I had a five hundred season or a couple
of games, and I never got invited for a three season.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
That was it. I was done.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
That's part of the club.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Why aren't you making any trades? Like what, I'm twelve and.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Oh, just so much fun.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm twelve and oh why would I make a trade?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
But Ax, that'd be like saying, you know, somebody call
up you know, a call you know, Kansas City and
go would you trade as Pat Mahomes?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Well, no, we kind of like where we're at.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
We won a couple of big games with them, and
he's really good, so we just think we'll keep them.
Why would I trade any of my pleasant winning game
after game after game. So anyway, one other thing on
the charts thing, and this is from Remove the Internet Interim.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's what I had to do.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
From Remove the Interim label, guy says, if charts learn
anything from you, it was the absurd level of prep
work and dedication from your craft.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
And that's what it was because I did put a
lot of prep work. I always loved that question about that.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Someone else sent a text message and common I was.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
At Tendabee.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I was sorry, I was reading, I said comment. I
was referring to myself only because I was looking. I
was reading an email. But it's not the one or
text message. It's not the one I want. It was
an I wish I could find it here. It's it's
long gone. It was basically when we're you're talking about,
you know, the.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Kevin O'Connell continually talking.
Speaker 13 (29:16):
About the the base, the teaching him the basics of
playing quarterback right, the the the the elementary principles of it,
aligning your eyes and your feed and.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
This and posture and all that. And it's like, and
someone said, you because we talked about this, he went
to that IMG Academy for quarterbacks. Isn't that where you
learn all those things? I mean, look, I'm not I
don't want to pick on the kid, I really don't,
but I'm more picking on the head coach.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Shouldn't these things have been taught to him at I AMG.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Shouldn't shouldn't the the mechanics of playing the position already
be a foregone conclusion. He he's been playing since he
was a little kid. That's all he's ever done is
played football, went to the IMG Academy, played high school football.
Where was it college? He lost as one game with
Michigan or was it or was it high school? Because
they'd only lost one game in all the games he
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started quarterback in high school in pros or high school
in college. So he either lost one high school game
or one college game. You would think the mechanics would
be established by then.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Also, and I've said this a billion times, this is
year two of them. Here.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I get he was injured during the season, but even
once he gets to the regular season, he's on the
scout team behind Sam Darnold last year anyway, most likely,
But you've had two off seasons, two training camps to
work with him on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Case closed, You're right, I don't know. And then.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It begs the question you heard the quote I read
from West Phillips where West basically said the Vikings offensive
coordinated by title anyways, where he said, look said, no,
we're not just.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Just making a game plan.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's the number one goal of this organization isn't to
try to develop JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm paraphrase and he didn't say it that. I can
dig up the quote if you want me to, but.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Basically, we got to do no matter how complicated it is,
we have to do the things we need to do
with that we think will help the team win. It's
more than about developing JJ McCarthy. And I think some
fans lose sight of that because they're just fans and
they know they're going to be here next year as
a fan, five years, ten years, fifty to twenty years.
You know, most people are lifelong fans of their teams,
right well, yeah, but that doesn't sit very well with
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Harrison Smith or Justin Jefferson or any of the other
players that are you know, especially like the offensive lineman
and defensive line. Of the guys are laying on the
line and tearing up their knees and they're injury riddled.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
All year long. It's like, I want the kid to
have a nice career and.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I wanted to help us win, but it's not just
about him, and that becomes a problem. So then you
have to decide, and look, I'm not asking for him
to be ben sure to give up on yet. Yeah,
I don't think you can't. I think that is five
games is way too early for anything.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
There were some people during that game yesterday and that wonder.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
They want Yeah, yeah, Well, remember the coach wouldn't answer
that question yesterday. During the news conference immediately following in
the game, after the twenty minute cooling off period, he
was asked by one of the local media and he said,
I'm not I'm not going to respond to that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'm not going to talk about that right now.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Whether that means he just doesn't want to even give
it any life you want to breathe any life into
a quarterback controversy, or if maybe he really was.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Thinking about it but then decided against it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
If you do, I was talking to do somebody's watching
the game, he'd mentioned, I wonder if you go to Brosemer,
I go If you do that, that's almost you can't
he almost can't go back. I mean you can and
probably would, But I mean, if if you're telling the
kid struggling in his fifth game, kid, we got to
get you out of there because you don't know what
the hell you're doing.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
We're putting Brosemer in that's going to really shatter the case.
I mean, you know, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Maybe this isn't a good example because this player hasn't
exactly flourished. But Carolina did it with Bryce Young last year.
They set him down for a couple of games yea
early in the season and let Andy Dalton take over
the reins and then Bryce Young came back later the season,
did better towards the end of the year. Now that
hasn't necessarily carried over. Now there's six and four won yesterday.
But did you have a really good game?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You did have a good day.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, that's what I thought I saw. So you're right,
you can do that, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And again when we're talking about can we worry about
shattering a kid's confidence when there's fifty two other people
on the team, there's two owners, by the way, and
then there's front office people, and you know, there's there's
a lot of people that are that are invested in
this in this club.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I just saw where who's the kid that's been starting
for the Jets.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Well, it's been Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And he's now being benched. Yes, I just saw that.
They and according to Justin Fields, again.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
They were going to set him a couple of weeks ago,
and then to Rod Taylor got hurt. Okay, so the
owner was basically calling out justin fields publicly. Yes, and
then Taylor gets hurt and they had to go back
to him, and then he had his best game of
the year.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So it's it's it's.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And then you know the the example we bring up
all the time is the Trey Lance kid. I don't
even remember who he was drafted by, but the Niners.
I thought they traded for him.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, they traded picks, three draft picks, three first round
draft picks to move up to get them.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Move up again.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Okay, so they draft them. They didn't waste too much
time they didn't like. You know, how long did they
let him? Did they give him a basic tryou from
the starting position before they said it ain't working.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
And we're moving on with our lives. It wasn't too terribly.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I don't think he started right away if I recalled,
but he might have had some injury stuff too.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
But was that was that so Garoppolo?
Speaker 12 (34:39):
Then?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I think it may have been, but I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I do remember that he didn't. It wasn't like they said,
we got back it's not like they said, we got
to give this guy three years. They they they pulled
the plug. They they they recognized the error of their waves,
of their ways.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
And they moved on to another quarterback. Now that becomes
the question.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
The conundrum is how long do you continue to play
him with the way the season is now. And again
it's that idea of you got to be careful because
other players on the team aren't here to babysit this kid,
because they've got their careers, their hopes, their aspirations, their contracts,
their health and welfare. They can't just worry about the kids.
(35:25):
So it's a balancing act to how long.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Do you wait?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
And then if you don't have another option, I don't
know if Roseman is a realistic option.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
We like the kid. He went from New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
He had one year in big time college football and
he played really well for the Gophers. He had a
nice season, and then the Vikings like what they saw
when they watched them play with the Gophers. They like
what they saw during a tryout or whatever it was,
and then they went ahead and sign him as an
undrafted free agent. And so maybe he could be really good,
But you know, the chance is that he's going to
(35:57):
blossom into an everyday back that becomes a franchise course
is probably pretty slim. But so I don't know when
you make that call, it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Us with with Brozmerg Like the professional experience we had
with him is preseason, and I think McCarthy's performances in
preseason is another example of that stuff really doesn't mean
a whole lot. Because McCarthy look pretty good in the
preseason last year. He had his moments in the preseason
this year, and then regular season has not gone the
right way for him.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
So that's where we that's where we stand, Warren, what
do you got? Well?
Speaker 11 (36:36):
I want to back, you know on this quarterback situation
because I was very good friends with down the stream.
He wouldn't have put up with that for more, he
would not have not have put up with it. And
what was the thing that Zimmer said to that guy
they drafted. They asked a question about the quarterbacks and.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
See him in practice all the time.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
I see him in practice, you know, you know, and
that it was my was me going on and if
the kid can't, you know, he gets hurt by saying
we can't. We cannot have our quarterback playing like this.
And what I would do right now, because what do
you have to lose?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Some people out there?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Are you talking from outer space because your phone is
breaking up really bad?
Speaker 11 (37:23):
Your connections a little off today. But the thing about.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
It is if if if you have, if you gave
him the same chances, you give him the same chances
that that JJ's got, and I say he can't do
any worse, you have him in there, and then when
you tell just simply if you know, you know what
I would say if I was the owners, I'd say,
(37:47):
is this the way you're going to do it?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (37:49):
You and the people out there giving your breaking up.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
We got to let you go. You're breaking up really bad.
We are to text message says I've seen this before.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I've seen it on a on a couple of message boards,
responding to articles in The Fishrap, West Side, east Side
and The Athletic.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
It says McCarthy has seen brilliance here and there, he
is learning. Just need to relax.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
And again, I just it's easy for you as a
fan to say, just relax. How long is this? How
long do we have to wait? When I say we
I'm talking about players on the team. If you're a
player on the team, you're going this is all fine.
But man, I'm laying it on the line.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Every week.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I'm playing for another contract, and if the team's not
playing well, I'm not getting rich. This isn't what I
signed up for. I signed up because I thought we
were going somewhere, and now we're coddling some kid who
can't play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
He's just not that simple. It just relax everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Now, they're going to give him some time and he
may end up developing into the greatest quarterback in the
history of the national football It's always possible, and he
has had moments. He has, but so did Eric Kipple,
and so did Scott and Mitchell. Do you remember Scott
(39:07):
and Mitchell? Scott and Mitchell left handed quarterback nineteen ninety five,
it was ninety four, I believe was the years either
ninety four ninety five. He filled in for the injured
Dan Marino. He had five brilliant games, was named AFC
Offensive Player of the Week of the month, and the
Lions and the Vikings went into a bidding war form
and the Lions won that bidding war. If you want
(39:29):
to call it winning and scott Minster was just okay
at best after that. So that's just a word of
the wise. Yeah, I'm McCarthy's. We don't just relax. It's
easy for you as a fan to say relaxed, but
if you're if you're own the team and you've been
waiting for how many years?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
How many? How many victories did the Vikings have in
postseason for the Wolfs two? Three? Well, I think that's
about it, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Oh nine and seventeen, I think that's it. They have
the one game in New Orleans with Cousins through that
rooteolphers three wins.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
There's three.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Then you got players on the team and he might
be fine. I'm not giving up on him completely. I certainly,
it just seems like he's more regressing than anything. Now
you did have the nice drus As a matter of fact,
I do the hurry up offense with him like the
old Bills used to do with Jim Kelly, because that's
when he seems like he's at his best. Think just
throw drop back, look, throw drop back, look, throw try.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
That probably less koc talking in his ear during that stretch.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
That's exactly right. That is absolutely positive.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Maybe he's being over coached.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Well, when you got the quarterback whisper whispering in your ear,
that'll happen. So let's do this. Let's bid a doo.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
We'll talk to you tomorrow, Tedby, thanks for having me,
great job you as well.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
We're back tomorrow one o'clock. PJ Fletcher are twelve. Newmark
Rosen joins.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Us at two o'clock Big Ticket jj R next right
here in.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
The finod night.
Speaker 13 (40:59):
Good night, missus calabat, where have you?
Speaker 7 (41:04):
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Speaker 1 (41:07):
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