December 22, 2025 • 42 mins
Common Man Hour 2 --5 Questions --Wild/Wolves --Ex-Hughes Computer --Both Ways
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
A couple thirteen fourteen pastime common He is Tennabe, We're
ill renumber one of the books. I'm here tomorrow and Wednesday.
Brett Lakebourne for Tennabe Tennabee taking New Christmas Eve off,
as is Mark Rosen. We'll be here tomorrow still at
one o'clock start. Is it going to be the Nico
(00:47):
medved show tomorrow's Mark?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, one o'clock start. And we should have hopefully spread swing.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah at lighting deuces in no matter what Roses said,
he woulds we should do spread swing. But right now
it was time for five to three four. Time now for.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Five questions, Well, actually three but five sounds like more
than four. Question number one.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Time now for an in depth look at the state
of the state of hockey.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I'm disappointed. Your first question wasn't about the Idaho
Potato Bowl, which is starting right now.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's just under course on the blue and Orange field.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yep, Washington six and six Washington State. You toss state
six and six, one team will be seven and six
at the end of the game and the other team
will be six six seven. What you got?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh? The Wild seven game winning streak came to an
end with a five to one loss to Colorado yesterday
at Grand Casino Arena. Also snapped their franchise record fourteen
game points streak on home ice. Common Any going to
be concerned after the Wild's loss to the Abs, Someone.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Texted the Bradshawn Brian Kfe and text line during that
last break after you teased five three four, say, it's
not that the Wild played bad? Is that the Lanch
are just that good? Would you agree with that? Or
was the Wild off there game a little bit? And
does a lanch dictate the way in the Wild didn't
look like the same team. But I think a lot
of that is based off of the team they're playing.
(02:27):
But you know the on Black Friday they played Colorado
and they skated right with them.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean they ended up winning in a shootout. If
I recall, but just from a from a game pace,
tempo standpoint, in terms of offensive possession, it was very similar,
whereas this one. You know, Colorado was clearly the better
team throughout that game yesterday, and Colorado has always been
able to let's face it, I mean, offensively, they have
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the elite of the league, elite and the national Hockey
ling and some of the goals they had yesterday were unbelievable,
but also in the wild really didn't get you know,
other than a boldie breakaway and shorthanded that he missed on, Like,
they didn't really create a lot of offense and create
a lot of chances. So credit to Colorado's defense as well, since.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The trade for a Dylan Hughes, No Hughes Quinn.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Hughes Quinhughes.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I checked the box. Scores, helpers and goals don't always
determine how a guy plays. But yes, does he have
a one goal for us and one helper? What's I mean?
Like like there was nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
He scored the first game?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, is that anything?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yesterday's game was the least noticeable he's been. Okay, he's though,
I mean he's you know, part of getting assists is
you need other players to finish on those assists, right,
Like you can put someone in a good spot as
much as Pott Right, Like JJ McCarthy can throw it
right into his wide receiver's hands, but if they dropped
the ball, it looks like an incomplete pass from Jay
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Jim McCarthy right. So there's always more to it than stats.
Don't tell you everything.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I'm not going to throw a wet blanket on Wednesday
because it's Christmas Eve. You don't throw a wet blanket
on Christmas Eve, you know, on the wet black Wednesday.
How about if I throw this at you. We were
pretty good before we got Hughes. They've been pretty good
after Quinn, right, But did we need him?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Did we?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
If you want, if you want to make a run
to the Stanley Cup, yes, they got better with Quinn,
Hughes and a Simon close. Until the Colorado game. They're
beating everyone by four goals. That hasn't even been competitive.
Colorado's just they're literally on pace to be the greatest
National Hockey League team of all time based off their record.
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It's an elite and elite team.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We had a great no member before we got the kid.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
We were really been great since we got him, I know.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But we gave up four number one picks to get them,
and you might not even.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Stay, and he might stay. I'm bringing a Stanley Cup,
so could be possible, really possible. I think it's more
likely with Quinn Hughes, but.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We thought about it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So possible.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So what we thought about with Parisian? Uh suit or two?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm just throwing it in.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm not I'm not saying I'm not all for it.
I'm just saying I'm just doing the Devil's advocate stuff.
Could you make an argument we were as good as
any team in hockey before the trade, and we're still
as good as any team in hockey after the trade.
So was it even necessary? I don't know. We'll find
out as time goes.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Well, I'll take my chances with Quinn.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Do the question number two.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It's now time to take an in depth look at
the welfare of the Wolves.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The Wolves overcame a sixteen point deficit early in the
third quarter for a one oh three, one hundred win
over milliwa Ke Rudy Gobert had eleven points and eighteen rebounds,
which put him over ten thousand boards for his career
aunt led the Wolves at twenty four points, but he
did it on only shooting seven of twenty four from
the field. Con was sixcout you from the Wolves squeaking
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by the Milliwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, you know you conveniently ignored because you're part of
the hockey community rather than the basketball community. They beat
the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
On was that at Friday night?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Friday night they beat Okay. See more on that later,
because that's I can throw a wet blanket on anything,
even beating Okay. See which I'm going to do. What
I like from that game tan to be yesterday and
I didn't see a second of it like to I'll
tell you what like again. I go to a quote
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from the game from the aforementioned Rudy Gobert. He says, quote,
it happened so many times when we win a big game,
a big emotional game, and then we play a team
with not the same record, and we don't come in
with the same intensity we were prepared for that. They've
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learned a lesson, at least for the game. Hey, guess what,
you gotta play hard every game, you really do. It's
easier to win more games than you try really hard
all the time. So they came off a big game
against OKAC because they seem to get up for the
teams that they think are worthy of their preparation, other
teams that you're just not worthy of us putting our
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best foot forward. We can beat you with one arm
tied behind our backs, and more times than not, they
don't beat that team with one armed time behind their backs.
So maybe they've learned something. So I see that quote
and I like it. Also, they were behind in that
game though Tennabee. They were down sixteen in the third quarter.
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But here's what it says, fish rot Factory west Side.
The Wolves went on a twenty three to two run
as coach Chris Finch tweaked his lineup in the third quarter,
with Mike Conley playing for the injured Jaye McDaniels and
Nas Reeds subbing in early for Julius Randall. Finch said,
just needed to change it up. That lineup just wasn't working,
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So I just wanted to change it up, go with
Nas out there, and that's it. Sometimes you got to
do that. I like that because you just you wouldn't
necessarily think Randall's one of your best player. He's one
of your two best players right game in, game out.
If you were, if you weren't a game tennabe. If
you and I were going to play a pickup basketball
game and we got to choose from the fifteen Wolves players,
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you had first pick, my guess is you take Anthony second,
and I would then take Julius Randall right, No, I
mean though, those are your best players on the team.
But it wasn't working. Sometimes it doesn't work, guys, guys,
and so we changed it up and then it says
Conley helped the Wolves generate good ball movement after a
choppy first half against Milwaukee. He had six points, six assists,
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and five rebounds, a thirty eight year old return from
a four game absence because of an achilles tendinopathy. Not
as that's not as serious is testicular torsion. Right, We
learned that last week he thought he might only play
eight minutes. He played nearly twenty four. Here's what he said.
(09:33):
Really was just trying to make the game easier for everybody.
I thought that we were making the game tough, settling
for a lot of shots that we weren't. Just like
we can make the most games we weren't making shots early,
and they played his own a lot of the time,
and at that point, I was just trying to get
in the paint. Fine guys, start the blender a little
bit and see that's what veteran players do. Bring. It's
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too bad that Conley couldn't turn back the clock physically
about five years, right, because he is he owns the game,
He understands the game, he knows how the game plays.
And there he was able to play twenty four minutes.
How I think could get twenty four minutes? Because isn't
that one of our issues? We feel like we don't
have a point guard. I mean, Aunt was gonna be
our point guard and he could probably do it, you know,
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you know, but he's better, I think as the shooting guard.
Whence you don't you think that's his position better? It's
too bad if we could get that kind of out
of Mic every single night. But he's thirty eight years old.
But if you could get that would be better. And
then your coach not afraid to change things up and
in certain guys in the lineup, That's what I like
about that, and then they beat okay see too. But
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I'm I think we you can only play certain cards
so many times, and I think we played one ten.
I me I'll explain the other side of the break.
That's a little five three four for you here on
the common Man program.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
That's it for today's.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Edition of five Questions. Well actually three questions, but five
sounds like more than four.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
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Speaker 2 (11:33):
Double thirteen fourteen past. I'm common He's tend to be
no Kevin O'Connell today. He usually has a day after
the game news conference, but I think he's shifting it
to tomorrow because in a short week they're playing Christmas Day,
and that would mean there'd be two news conferences. There's
usually one on a Monday and one on Wednesdays. I
think they'll just have one that will be all encompassing.
(11:55):
We'll hear from him sometime tomorrow, just say it was
one to fifteen. Was a schedule start, I believe.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, one, So we'll probably only carry it if it's
on time, which is probably unlikely.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, but let's hopefully it is because we have we
have spread swing to take care of us.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
A couple of text messages and this one says me, boy,
nice of you to back off on Wednesday and not
be a wet blanket, but why make it a mood
killer Monday like that? Well to four and one since
his arrival, before the avalanche came, the Wild outscored their
opponents in those four wins, twenty one goals to six.
(12:32):
I'm on the jolly green Giant side. This is by far,
and yes far capitalized, the most talented lineup the Wild
they've ever had. Looking forward to seeing Rows and make
it across the river to Grand Casino Arena. Wants the Wild.
They're in a deep run in the playoffs. And then
he wants me to add this, I'll remove the in
room label guy. Hm. Well, I decided see how the
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Cannucks have done since the trade. They're four and o yes,
so now last I checked, four and I was better
than four to one last time my check. Let's see ooh,
what's William's first name? Again? Ze Well. In his debut
with the Canucks, he scored a goal and had an assist. Uh,
(13:18):
that's pretty good. Yeah like that, Obrian and Rosie h nothing.
See our next game was Tuesday to said. Well, look
after beating the Devils two to one on December fourteenth,
they shut out the Rangers three nothing. See what our
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numbers look like in that game? Ogrid, Wow, he had
two shots on goal. He had a goal. That was
one of the guys that we included in the trade,
wasn't it. That's nice? See what else? Rosie didn't do anything?
And then William did not do he had a shot
on goal. Let's see our next game, Oh, beat the
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Islanders four to.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
One on the road, by the way, Yeah they're all
road games.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh boy, let's see what happened there. Uh again, then
they didn't do anything in that game. And then let's see,
oh and then they just Saturday in a shootout, they
beat the Bruins five to four. Let's see what the
numbers look like there. Ooh o. Gon had three shots
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on Goalie had a goal and an assist.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
He's scoring the shootout too, Oh did he?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh? And uh Rossi he had an assist in that game. Huh.
So it sounds like those guys have been playing pretty well.
Canucks are four toho. I'm just saying. I'm not saying
the Canucks record is better since the trade than the Wild.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You don't want to factor a competition at all. No,
isn't that well?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know what they don't put the other teams fosters together.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, they Knucks needed a shootout to beat the Boston Bruins.
We beat them six to two.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Was Boston on a back to back against the Canucks?
Were they traveling time zones? Did they have cir katie
and rhythm? Did their jet have to come back because
of Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
We were on a back to back when we played them.
Was the Uh did we come back because of mechanical
lost yesterday? It was on the back to back?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, but they they were off, So I mean that
Avalanche were rusty. Would would you rather just continue playing?
Especially when you just keep winning games? You outscored accomplish
Tish twenty one to six going into that game. You
want to just keep Yeah, except.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yesterday against a historically good team. All right, let's look
out Vancouver schedule, fie if they lay Colorado at any point?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh, and then there's this one, the Jolly Green Giant
got really defensive about the newly acquired defenseman. He turned
on his ex hues computer. That's good, okay, l right,
Mandela guy, excuse computer, not excuse, but excuse computer. I
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like that. That's really good. We'll have to use there.
And Oberd was just to throw it in the deal.
And now he's turning. You know what he's saying, let
me show you what you're missing. He's inspired.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Just need a little opportunity, just needed a little opportunity there.
So he did nowhere to play in this lineup? Yeah,
we're too deep.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Here's another Canucks are undefeated since we mortgage our future
for use. Well, there it is. Here's one that says, well,
oh h hit the wrong button. Sorry that you know me?
(17:00):
I'm gave him a lot of future All Stars for
the mighty Quinn, didn't we.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
M he's the future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
This one says Wild fans right now, why is common
the way he is? I will it's just because well
I'm a gadfly, That's what I am. Are we sure
that Quinn Hughes is a good fit on this Wild club?
Much like Otani wouldn't work for the Twins. So that's
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you know, there's always that. I don't think Otani would
have quite fit in with this team. Oh here's another one.
Hughes isn't scoring. I don't care if we win two Cups.
I'd rather have the potential of William Rossi and Otto
Graham the underperforming Hughes. I think Hughes is underperforming.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think he's been pretty good.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
This is going to go down as the worst trade
in the history of Minnesota sports. No, I'm just having it.
Why am I this way? I am just playing devil's advocate, though.
I mean, it is true that we were really good
before the trade, and we might be better. It's very
it could very well be this guy will make us
a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
They've been really good since the trade. I know they're
four and one, I.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Know, but they were twenty three and two over a
twenty five games.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
If you extrapolate four and one over the rest of
the season, they will be the best team.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
In hockey if it works out that way. Yes, extrapolation
doesn't always work that way. When the Lions were four
and one at one point this year, if you extrapolate
that out, they were about to finish.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Clearly, Yeah, clearly, we're not going to extrapolate out My
point is just this has not been a disastrous five
games stretch with Quinhes.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well, nobody's said that, but we're just saying My point is,
did we really need to make the trade in order
to get the kind of results when we look at them?
We had a historic month and over it was historic, historic,
and everybody says Buyam has got a chance, maybe not
to be quite as good as Hughes has been advertised.
(19:13):
I haven't seen it yet, but of course I haven't
watched the game either.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
But.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
How do we know that Bulliam, give him another year
or two, would have been just as good as Dylan Hughes.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Quinny is.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I mean, there's no doubt when you look at the
trade with Vancouver. If anyone makes this trade, go south
for the for the for the wild, that's going to
be Zee William Right like Ogren, I know he's put
the puck in the net and often it's getting more
opportunity in Vancouver, but I think he's just didn't He's
gonna be a third line NHL player. Marco Rossi's a
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quality forward.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I like him more than most people do.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I don't know why the biggest game changer in the
group is Quinn Hughes and the only the only one
who us potentially be a game changer is ze Bullyam.
The other two aren't going to become game changers. They
are NHL players that are you can find.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
We thought they thought we were going to screw them
when we traded zeb Boulliam. There's a chance.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I think it's a win for both teams. All right,
well you can have a trade. We're both teams.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Well, let's see, we'll play it out. We'll see. Just
throwing it out there just for people to something to
chew on, and you can wash it down with egg
nog and have a little peanut and rip. It's that
time of year. You know what. I think Mary was
upset with Joseph. I mean they roll into town Bethlehem
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on a holiday without a reservation at a hotel, so
they end up having to stay in a major I'd
be annoyed about. What was he thinking?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Just pregnant?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well yeah, make so, says you've got to make sure
you have a reservation. It's just crazy. We'll break We'll
come back with little death that loud radio or the ring.
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be kidding me.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
We don't go all next question. I mean it's like, hello,
sorry about that. I was on hold trying to get
a reservation for Bethlehem. How could you go to a
metropolis the size of Bethlehem on a holiday. I think
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you're going to find a suite with a with a
king bed. I don't think it's going to work that way.
Here's a text message that came into the Bradgem Brian.
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Were you disappointed that your thunder lost to the Timberwolves.
Here's what it is with me and the Thunder. I've
taken a page out of Tennebee's book and a lot
of other people Tenneby, you like Kansas City and admire them,
and you like seeing them win, right because you like
the you like the excellence of Pat Maholmes and Andy Reid,
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And how about Tom Brady? Were you another one of
those guys I thought you, Oh you didn't, I thought
you were.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I mean, I respect him as a quarterback, but I was.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I know there were a lot of people that liked they.
I'm getting to watch brilliance and they they had no
problem with Timber and I've always been well, yeah, I
get in admire what they do, but I don't want
to see them win year after year after year. Well,
the Oklahoma City Thunder just won their first ever World championship,
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and I admire what they do. The Oklahoma City Thunder
and SGA, to me, are the NBA equivalent of Pat
Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. What's wrong with admiring that?
I just hold them up as a shining example. They're
not necessarily my team, though, I don't mind seeing them
win because they approach every game as if it means something,
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and it does. They are poised, they're polished, and they
were professional. Wolves won. But this is what I teased earlier.
If you'll remember, was it the Vikings who had the
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team captain the coaches were out of the room and
the team captains all did some kind of pep talk
earlier in the season. Is that the Wild that did that?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Maybe the Vikings, but.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That was a while that did that? Right, Yes, okay,
that's great, But how many times can you pull that card?
What was the one that I that couldn't have been
the one I was talking about that and there was
another one earlier we talked about some one of our
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local teams made some kind of a big deal and
they won. I said, well, there goes that car. I
know the Vikings did it. I know the Vikings. They go, well,
they go, there goes that car. The Wolves have like
a dinner, did they? That's not the one I'm talking about, though.
This was this was during that was before the season started.
This was maybe the Wild. Maybe maybe the Wolves did
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it as well. All I know is here's what happened
in the in the in the in the win over
Oklahoma City, Give me a second here. Chris Heine writes
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for Fisherraft Factory West Side Beat writer for soon to
be a Big Game or the soon to be NBA
champion Minnesota Timberwolves. He writes after the Timberwolves one twelve
one oh seven victory over the Thunder on Friday night.
Coach Chris Finch stood next to President of Basketball Operations
Tim Connelly. Both greeded players as they came off the
target center floor. Anthony Edwards came by and gave a
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quick dap to his coach, and Edwards walked down the
hallway talking to a team camera. We fed off Finchy's energy.
Finch walked on a ramp to the left of Edwards,
and Edwards wondered if that was the first time Finch
had been ejected. Edwards forgot about January thirty that Phoenix
last season when Finch got ejected for referring to officials
as bozos. Chris Finch got ejected tenneby from the game
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against the uh The Bokahoma City Thunder players said Finch's
timing was perfect, that it gave them an energy jolt
they needed and inspired them to keep fighting in a physical,
defensive first battle won. The Wols won by scoring the
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game's final eight points with Edward's hitting and go ahead
three point with thirty eight point five seconds to play.
Nasrito at fifteen points said that fueled a lot of
fire in us. It was exciting to see. Obviously he
was into the game, so I don't think it was
a stunt stuff like that. You want to fight for
someone who was fighting for you, added Dante DiVincenzo. He
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gave everybody energy, not just us but the fans. You
shouldn't have to do that, Aha, the key somebody recognized it.
You shouldn't have to do that. But you could tell,
like from that moment on, they controlled the next four
or five minutes. After that, then we settled in. We
took the energy that was in the arena. Shouldn't have
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to do that. Finch can't get ejected before every game
now is if that won't work, eventually everyone's going to
know it's a stunt. And it worked, and that's great,
especially in a game that you're playing the best team
in basketball. There's no argument they're the best team in basketball.
You can't argue that they might not end up being
the best team in basketball at the end of the year.
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Right things change in the National Basketball Association, there could
be a completely different team hoisting the Guy Lombar. It
could very well be the Minnesota Timberwolves hoisting the NBA
Championship trophy and hoist in the banner next next November
when we opened the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season.
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But when you got to when when a coach has
to resort to that, and you know there's so many stories.
Where was the I had another quote here, I didn't.
I just pay a phrase French was He says that
he believes that the thunder get an inordinate amount of calls,
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right and that, and everybody thinks that. You know, everybody
hates SGA in this town. And instead of I admire
him for his ability to play basketball and to draw foul.
I guarantee you this, if he was playing for our
team and doing that, we'd love it, right, fans would
just be eating it up. Got him again? Is it?
Do you think there's a Do you think there is
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a fan in any NBA city tend to be that
if their player was attracting fouls like that, scoring the
amount of points he isn't winning you a world championship?
Do you think they'd be going? I don't like this guy, though,
I just I wish he'd stop doing that. If you're
being honest with yourself, you you you don't believe that
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in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I will say, and it's not the exact same. It's
a little bit apples oranges, okay, But Karl Anthony Towbs
when he was here, there were a lot of people,
including myself that would complain about his style of play
and like constantly complaining the officials and whining. So I
do think there are some personality traits. Now, you know,
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he's not on SGA's level, so I understand it's not
the exact comparision, but he was, you know, an all
star player here and not everybody universally loved him because
of his personality and the way he played.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's air fault. Then that's a that's that's a foible,
and that's a problem with the fan who has a
problem with his personality. He gave everything he's been the
most other than now and just taking over for that,
but other than Garnett, Towns is the most important player
to this franchise has ever had. Now it is, he's
the top three. There's a mount rushmore. He's one of
(31:06):
He gave everything he had every single game, did things
for the community. Everybody complains about I. I I know
what you're saying, but I if people I wouldn't have
a problem with that. It's to me, it's no I'm
I'm on the other side of that finch. He said,
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there is the here's, here's, here's here's a finish set. Ideally,
whether it shakes out to be forty seven free throws
or twenty seventh free throws, you just need the game
called in a way that's even on both sides. That's
everybody's goal in this game. Maybe there's fifty seven free throws.
I could have been shot in that game last night,
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who knows. I don't know. I'm just trying to bring
some intensity to the moment and have everybody react and
respond to it. Ideally, whether it shakes out to be
forty seven to three throws or twenty seven, you just
need to be the game to be called in a
way that's even on both sides. So, in other words,
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if one team is more aggressive, he picks up three
or four follows early, the referee is supposed to go, well,
I better start calling him on the other team. So
it's even. That's the most preposterous thing I've ever heard
my entire life. Don't you you agree with me? Right?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It depends on how he's using the word even, right,
I think the way you are interpreting it, I would say, yes,
that's ridiculous. But if his version of calling it even is, Hey,
if you're going to call this specific follow on, okay, see,
then you need to call this you know, or if
you're gonna call this specific follow on and then called
this specific follow right, that like they're getting a different
(32:58):
set of rules as to it's a follow us.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Okay, you're right, that's probably what he did mean, because
when I saw that, my jaw dropped. It's like, you
can't just try to even the score, because you know,
people think of referees do that all the time.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, they call it both ways, you call it the
way it's most because.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, exactly, Okay, maybe that then I'm alright with it,
because I was looking at that and I was going, well,
that's just insane, because you can't call it both ways.
If it's not called both ways. I also believe, you know,
I think I'm in the minority here, and maybe it's
because I'm I'm not. It doesn't the results of the
(33:39):
games and the fandom as much like the hometown teams
to win and get a kick out of watch and
occasionally it doesn't mean as much to me, So I
think fans and players. I mean, have you ever seen
an NBA player think he didn't get fouled or I
didn't follow them? Right? So it's like it's a hard
(33:59):
game aim to officiate. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's the hardest and half of them are trying to
draw follow from making it look like it's a follow
and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, So to me, sometimes I don't even know if
it's people think it's favoritism. They call it, you know,
like who are the guys that think it called? You know,
Lebron gets calls all the time, and Steph gets calls
and this guy gets calls, and well, I don't know
(34:27):
if that's really necessarily true. Guys like that, Guess what,
they're handling the ball more than other guys on the floor,
they're shooting more. They should be guarded more intensely, right,
So to me, that that just means there are they
are going to be followed more often if you have
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the ball in your hands as often as the star
players doing this league. The SGA's, the the Lebrons is,
the step Says is, the Don Sitch is is you're
probably going to be guarded more closely and they're going
(35:10):
to be in your face and so there there. I
just think it's now you can put aunt that category.
And I think there are people that think Ant doesn't
get the benefit of the doubt, and maybe doesn't. I
don't know. I don't have in front of me a
list of players from for not only for this this year,
but their career. How many times have they been they've
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been they've been called for a foul, or you've watched
them and go, well, they should have had a foul called.
I don't know. I just I don't think refs.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I think do you think.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
They do it as office people think? Do you think
like Lebron always gets all the calls and that's the
way the league wants it.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
There are certain players that get the benefit of the
calls more than others. I do agree with that. You know,
I saw some Wolves related writers on Friday nightlating almost
as if this was you know, because it was just
a couple of games ago where Victor re Minyama basically said, hey,
they don't play with morals and ethics right like that,
they're trying to foul bait all the time. Now, he
(36:09):
didn't say in those words, but and that this was
almost like orchestrated by Finch to let's get let's get
the spotlight on Okac now, and let's have this become
a league wide. Let's get the magnifying glass from the
league on Okac. So come playoff time, that keeps building up,
(36:30):
building up. And then the narrative around ak Okac is
they get all these calls all the time, so come
playoff time, that'll start even out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Now, it could be. And I guess if you really
believe that, And I think people feel officiating is a
big problem in the NBA and the NFL. And I
think you and I, while I can I should speak
for you, well, I tend to agree that there are
a lot of botch calls. It's because those two games
are hard to effish. There's there, you know, basketball, so
(37:02):
you know there's ten guys in the flour up and
down guarding. Then this in NFL there's twenty two guys
slamming around on it at each.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
NFL I still don't know what's a holding, what's out? All?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah? Exactly right, yeah, exactly. I said it to Douce
last and we were watching the game. There was a
time golf had a clean pocket. And I said, you're
this was against my team, And I said, do you
think any guy on our team was holding there right now?
And I said it for the other team too, because
that's just the way it works, you know. But so
(37:32):
getting back to my main point that obviously I think
the coach picked the right game to do it, because
you want, you know, if you if there's any team
you're gonna need to pull out every uh trick in
your bag, your your bag of tricks, it's gonna be
(37:52):
okay see, because they are the best team in basketball
for now. That could change, but as of right now,
they are undoubtedly the best team in basketball.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
So how about okay, see, they have three losses yep,
first loss they lost by two points, second loss they
lost by two points, and the Wolves beat by five.
So the Wolves have the best game against okay see
all you're a five point win.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
That is correct. And so if you've got to dig
deep into your bag of tricks, that's a good team
to do it against. But as I say, I don't
know if he can do that again and again and again.
You can do that once a year, maybe twice, and
after that the players are going to kind of see
(38:30):
through it. The fans going to see through it, the
rafts are going to see through it. Go sit down, coach,
I know what you're up to. Just go sit down.
Want me to reject you, I will. But it's not
that big of a deal to us, And as de
Vincenzo said, it shouldn't have to come to that's my
whole issue with much of what the Wolves have done
this year. And look at that's a nice win against Okay,
(38:52):
see it goes in the win column. And if you
if they if the coach getting himself ejected was the
impetus to play harder that's the right word, and and
and to take out Okay, see that that's good. You know,
I'm all for it, But does that happen the next
(39:13):
night and the next one.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
When you're playing a twenty five and two team that
knocked you out of the playoffs last year?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Like that shouldn't be what you need for motivation, right,
That's exactly Yeah, that's it, And so we'll see how
it goes. I mean, I I but yeah, no, I
so no, I'm not the Thunder's not my team. I
just admire them, I really do. It's it's it's I
am okay. See to me is what Kansas City is
to tend to be. And a lot of other people
(39:39):
there are other people that love and I understand it.
That's why it's not that I don't appreciate what the
Mike Jordan's is of the world's doing, the Pat mahomes
is and the Tom Brady's as it is. It's I've
seen it.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, there, that's why they are. When you talk about them,
you you say their names in hush tones, Tom Brady,
Michael Jordan, Lebron James, and I get that, but it's
it's it's after they win. I like it spread around
like I love the NFL. This year, there's there's a
(40:14):
lot of new teams that haven't done anything in a
long time. There's some really good We talked about some
of the interesting stories out there. Even Green Bay. As
much as I despise them, that's a team that's on
the rise. Man, that's a good defense. It's good often
the hell of a quarterback. The Bears with the story
(40:37):
they've been writing. San Francisco is a good club. Seattle,
that's a great division of they are. The NFC West
is what the NFC North was last year, right, last
year of the NFC North had three really good teams.
Now the West is AFC. They've got some good stories
over there as well.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
So yeah, when it comes to NFC West, is a
good reason why you want the fourth place schedule for
instead of the third place schedule next year. Difference between
the playing the Cardinals or the forty nine.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, there you go. That's exactly right, and that does
make a difference. We we we've learned that, so we'll see.
I here's a text message. All you might not like
their effort. The tea will still won, which you did acknowledge.
But how about the dagger shot by aunt Man that
was so awesome? It was It was a.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Great shots as well defended as you could ask for.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, but that's why he's the best players in the world.
And here's what I'll tell you. I bet there were
four other four or five others just like it that night.
The NBA is full of It's like the NFL. How
many exciting finishes can you have? Bears versus Packers, Seahawks
(41:49):
versus Rams, Vikings versus Junon. Okay, we'll stop at the
first two. Let's take a break, come back, one more
hour to go here on the Common Man Program, Common
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
A couple thirteen fourteen pastime common He is Tennabe, We're
ill renumber one of the books. I'm here tomorrow and Wednesday.
Brett Lakebourne for Tennabe Tennabee taking New Christmas Eve off,
as is Mark Rosen. We'll be here tomorrow still at
one o'clock start. Is it going to be the Nico
(00:47):
medved show tomorrow's Mark?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, one o'clock start. And we should have hopefully spread swing.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah at lighting deuces in no matter what Roses said,
he woulds we should do spread swing. But right now
it was time for five to three four. Time now for.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Five questions, Well, actually three but five sounds like more
than four. Question number one.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Time now for an in depth look at the state
of the state of hockey.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I'm disappointed. Your first question wasn't about the Idaho
Potato Bowl, which is starting right now.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's just under course on the blue and Orange field.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yep, Washington six and six Washington State. You toss state
six and six, one team will be seven and six
at the end of the game and the other team
will be six six seven. What you got?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh? The Wild seven game winning streak came to an
end with a five to one loss to Colorado yesterday
at Grand Casino Arena. Also snapped their franchise record fourteen
game points streak on home ice. Common Any going to
be concerned after the Wild's loss to the Abs, Someone.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Texted the Bradshawn Brian Kfe and text line during that
last break after you teased five three four, say, it's
not that the Wild played bad? Is that the Lanch
are just that good? Would you agree with that? Or
was the Wild off there game a little bit? And
does a lanch dictate the way in the Wild didn't
look like the same team. But I think a lot
of that is based off of the team they're playing.
(02:27):
But you know the on Black Friday they played Colorado
and they skated right with them.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean they ended up winning in a shootout. If
I recall, but just from a from a game pace,
tempo standpoint, in terms of offensive possession, it was very similar,
whereas this one. You know, Colorado was clearly the better
team throughout that game yesterday, and Colorado has always been
able to let's face it, I mean, offensively, they have
(02:53):
the elite of the league, elite and the national Hockey
ling and some of the goals they had yesterday were unbelievable,
but also in the wild really didn't get you know,
other than a boldie breakaway and shorthanded that he missed on, Like,
they didn't really create a lot of offense and create
a lot of chances. So credit to Colorado's defense as well, since.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The trade for a Dylan Hughes, No Hughes Quinn.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Hughes Quinhughes.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I checked the box. Scores, helpers and goals don't always
determine how a guy plays. But yes, does he have
a one goal for us and one helper? What's I mean?
Like like there was nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
He scored the first game?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, is that anything?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yesterday's game was the least noticeable he's been. Okay, he's though,
I mean he's you know, part of getting assists is
you need other players to finish on those assists, right,
Like you can put someone in a good spot as
much as Pott Right, Like JJ McCarthy can throw it
right into his wide receiver's hands, but if they dropped
the ball, it looks like an incomplete pass from Jay
(04:00):
Jim McCarthy right. So there's always more to it than stats.
Don't tell you everything.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I'm not going to throw a wet blanket on Wednesday
because it's Christmas Eve. You don't throw a wet blanket
on Christmas Eve, you know, on the wet black Wednesday.
How about if I throw this at you. We were
pretty good before we got Hughes. They've been pretty good
after Quinn, right, But did we need him?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Did we?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
If you want, if you want to make a run
to the Stanley Cup, yes, they got better with Quinn,
Hughes and a Simon close. Until the Colorado game. They're
beating everyone by four goals. That hasn't even been competitive.
Colorado's just they're literally on pace to be the greatest
National Hockey League team of all time based off their record.
(04:51):
It's an elite and elite team.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We had a great no member before we got the kid.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
We were really been great since we got him, I know.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But we gave up four number one picks to get them,
and you might not even.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Stay, and he might stay. I'm bringing a Stanley Cup,
so could be possible, really possible. I think it's more
likely with Quinn Hughes, but.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We thought about it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So possible.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So what we thought about with Parisian? Uh suit or two?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm just throwing it in.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm not I'm not saying I'm not all for it.
I'm just saying I'm just doing the Devil's advocate stuff.
Could you make an argument we were as good as
any team in hockey before the trade, and we're still
as good as any team in hockey after the trade.
So was it even necessary? I don't know. We'll find
out as time goes.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Well, I'll take my chances with Quinn.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Do the question number two.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It's now time to take an in depth look at
the welfare of the Wolves.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The Wolves overcame a sixteen point deficit early in the
third quarter for a one oh three, one hundred win
over milliwa Ke Rudy Gobert had eleven points and eighteen rebounds,
which put him over ten thousand boards for his career
aunt led the Wolves at twenty four points, but he
did it on only shooting seven of twenty four from
the field. Con was sixcout you from the Wolves squeaking
(06:26):
by the Milliwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, you know you conveniently ignored because you're part of
the hockey community rather than the basketball community. They beat
the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
On was that at Friday night?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Friday night they beat Okay. See more on that later,
because that's I can throw a wet blanket on anything,
even beating Okay. See which I'm going to do. What
I like from that game tan to be yesterday and
I didn't see a second of it like to I'll
tell you what like again. I go to a quote
(07:02):
from the game from the aforementioned Rudy Gobert. He says, quote,
it happened so many times when we win a big game,
a big emotional game, and then we play a team
with not the same record, and we don't come in
with the same intensity we were prepared for that. They've
(07:23):
learned a lesson, at least for the game. Hey, guess what,
you gotta play hard every game, you really do. It's
easier to win more games than you try really hard
all the time. So they came off a big game
against OKAC because they seem to get up for the
teams that they think are worthy of their preparation, other
teams that you're just not worthy of us putting our
(07:44):
best foot forward. We can beat you with one arm
tied behind our backs, and more times than not, they
don't beat that team with one armed time behind their backs.
So maybe they've learned something. So I see that quote
and I like it. Also, they were behind in that
game though Tennabee. They were down sixteen in the third quarter.
(08:07):
But here's what it says, fish rot Factory west Side.
The Wolves went on a twenty three to two run
as coach Chris Finch tweaked his lineup in the third quarter,
with Mike Conley playing for the injured Jaye McDaniels and
Nas Reeds subbing in early for Julius Randall. Finch said,
just needed to change it up. That lineup just wasn't working,
(08:28):
So I just wanted to change it up, go with
Nas out there, and that's it. Sometimes you got to
do that. I like that because you just you wouldn't
necessarily think Randall's one of your best player. He's one
of your two best players right game in, game out.
If you were, if you weren't a game tennabe. If
you and I were going to play a pickup basketball
game and we got to choose from the fifteen Wolves players,
(08:48):
you had first pick, my guess is you take Anthony second,
and I would then take Julius Randall right, No, I
mean though, those are your best players on the team.
But it wasn't working. Sometimes it doesn't work, guys, guys,
and so we changed it up and then it says
Conley helped the Wolves generate good ball movement after a
choppy first half against Milwaukee. He had six points, six assists,
(09:11):
and five rebounds, a thirty eight year old return from
a four game absence because of an achilles tendinopathy. Not
as that's not as serious is testicular torsion. Right, We
learned that last week he thought he might only play
eight minutes. He played nearly twenty four. Here's what he said.
(09:33):
Really was just trying to make the game easier for everybody.
I thought that we were making the game tough, settling
for a lot of shots that we weren't. Just like
we can make the most games we weren't making shots early,
and they played his own a lot of the time,
and at that point, I was just trying to get
in the paint. Fine guys, start the blender a little
bit and see that's what veteran players do. Bring. It's
(09:53):
too bad that Conley couldn't turn back the clock physically
about five years, right, because he is he owns the game,
He understands the game, he knows how the game plays.
And there he was able to play twenty four minutes.
How I think could get twenty four minutes? Because isn't
that one of our issues? We feel like we don't
have a point guard. I mean, Aunt was gonna be
our point guard and he could probably do it, you know,
(10:14):
you know, but he's better, I think as the shooting guard.
Whence you don't you think that's his position better? It's
too bad if we could get that kind of out
of Mic every single night. But he's thirty eight years old.
But if you could get that would be better. And
then your coach not afraid to change things up and
in certain guys in the lineup, That's what I like
about that, and then they beat okay see too. But
(10:37):
I'm I think we you can only play certain cards
so many times, and I think we played one ten.
I me I'll explain the other side of the break.
That's a little five three four for you here on
the common Man program.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
That's it for today's.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Edition of five Questions. Well actually three questions, but five
sounds like more than four.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
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Speaker 2 (11:33):
Double thirteen fourteen past. I'm common He's tend to be
no Kevin O'Connell today. He usually has a day after
the game news conference, but I think he's shifting it
to tomorrow because in a short week they're playing Christmas Day,
and that would mean there'd be two news conferences. There's
usually one on a Monday and one on Wednesdays. I
think they'll just have one that will be all encompassing.
(11:55):
We'll hear from him sometime tomorrow, just say it was
one to fifteen. Was a schedule start, I believe.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, one, So we'll probably only carry it if it's
on time, which is probably unlikely.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, but let's hopefully it is because we have we
have spread swing to take care of us.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
A couple of text messages and this one says me, boy,
nice of you to back off on Wednesday and not
be a wet blanket, but why make it a mood
killer Monday like that? Well to four and one since
his arrival, before the avalanche came, the Wild outscored their
opponents in those four wins, twenty one goals to six.
(12:32):
I'm on the jolly green Giant side. This is by far,
and yes far capitalized, the most talented lineup the Wild
they've ever had. Looking forward to seeing Rows and make
it across the river to Grand Casino Arena. Wants the Wild.
They're in a deep run in the playoffs. And then
he wants me to add this, I'll remove the in
room label guy. Hm. Well, I decided see how the
(12:54):
Cannucks have done since the trade. They're four and o yes,
so now last I checked, four and I was better
than four to one last time my check. Let's see ooh,
what's William's first name? Again? Ze Well. In his debut
with the Canucks, he scored a goal and had an assist. Uh,
(13:18):
that's pretty good. Yeah like that, Obrian and Rosie h nothing.
See our next game was Tuesday to said. Well, look
after beating the Devils two to one on December fourteenth,
they shut out the Rangers three nothing. See what our
(13:39):
numbers look like in that game? Ogrid, Wow, he had
two shots on goal. He had a goal. That was
one of the guys that we included in the trade,
wasn't it. That's nice? See what else? Rosie didn't do anything?
And then William did not do he had a shot
on goal. Let's see our next game, Oh, beat the
(14:03):
Islanders four to.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
One on the road, by the way, Yeah they're all
road games.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh boy, let's see what happened there. Uh again, then
they didn't do anything in that game. And then let's see,
oh and then they just Saturday in a shootout, they
beat the Bruins five to four. Let's see what the
numbers look like there. Ooh o. Gon had three shots
(14:29):
on Goalie had a goal and an assist.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
He's scoring the shootout too, Oh did he?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh? And uh Rossi he had an assist in that game. Huh.
So it sounds like those guys have been playing pretty well.
Canucks are four toho. I'm just saying. I'm not saying
the Canucks record is better since the trade than the Wild.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You don't want to factor a competition at all. No,
isn't that well?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know what they don't put the other teams fosters together.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, they Knucks needed a shootout to beat the Boston Bruins.
We beat them six to two.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Was Boston on a back to back against the Canucks?
Were they traveling time zones? Did they have cir katie
and rhythm? Did their jet have to come back because
of Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
We were on a back to back when we played them.
Was the Uh did we come back because of mechanical
lost yesterday? It was on the back to back?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, but they they were off, So I mean that
Avalanche were rusty. Would would you rather just continue playing?
Especially when you just keep winning games? You outscored accomplish
Tish twenty one to six going into that game. You
want to just keep Yeah, except.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yesterday against a historically good team. All right, let's look
out Vancouver schedule, fie if they lay Colorado at any point?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh, and then there's this one, the Jolly Green Giant
got really defensive about the newly acquired defenseman. He turned
on his ex hues computer. That's good, okay, l right,
Mandela guy, excuse computer, not excuse, but excuse computer. I
(16:16):
like that. That's really good. We'll have to use there.
And Oberd was just to throw it in the deal.
And now he's turning. You know what he's saying, let
me show you what you're missing. He's inspired.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Just need a little opportunity, just needed a little opportunity there.
So he did nowhere to play in this lineup? Yeah,
we're too deep.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Here's another Canucks are undefeated since we mortgage our future
for use. Well, there it is. Here's one that says, well,
oh h hit the wrong button. Sorry that you know me?
(17:00):
I'm gave him a lot of future All Stars for
the mighty Quinn, didn't we.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
M he's the future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
This one says Wild fans right now, why is common
the way he is? I will it's just because well
I'm a gadfly, That's what I am. Are we sure
that Quinn Hughes is a good fit on this Wild club?
Much like Otani wouldn't work for the Twins. So that's
(17:37):
you know, there's always that. I don't think Otani would
have quite fit in with this team. Oh here's another one.
Hughes isn't scoring. I don't care if we win two Cups.
I'd rather have the potential of William Rossi and Otto
Graham the underperforming Hughes. I think Hughes is underperforming.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think he's been pretty good.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
This is going to go down as the worst trade
in the history of Minnesota sports. No, I'm just having it.
Why am I this way? I am just playing devil's advocate, though.
I mean, it is true that we were really good
before the trade, and we might be better. It's very
it could very well be this guy will make us
a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
They've been really good since the trade. I know they're
four and one, I.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Know, but they were twenty three and two over a
twenty five games.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
If you extrapolate four and one over the rest of
the season, they will be the best team.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
In hockey if it works out that way. Yes, extrapolation
doesn't always work that way. When the Lions were four
and one at one point this year, if you extrapolate
that out, they were about to finish.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Clearly, Yeah, clearly, we're not going to extrapolate out My
point is just this has not been a disastrous five
games stretch with Quinhes.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well, nobody's said that, but we're just saying My point is,
did we really need to make the trade in order
to get the kind of results when we look at them?
We had a historic month and over it was historic, historic,
and everybody says Buyam has got a chance, maybe not
to be quite as good as Hughes has been advertised.
(19:13):
I haven't seen it yet, but of course I haven't
watched the game either.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
But.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
How do we know that Bulliam, give him another year
or two, would have been just as good as Dylan Hughes.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Quinny is.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I mean, there's no doubt when you look at the
trade with Vancouver. If anyone makes this trade, go south
for the for the for the wild, that's going to
be Zee William Right like Ogren, I know he's put
the puck in the net and often it's getting more
opportunity in Vancouver, but I think he's just didn't He's
gonna be a third line NHL player. Marco Rossi's a
(19:52):
quality forward.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I like him more than most people do.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I don't know why the biggest game changer in the
group is Quinn Hughes and the only the only one
who us potentially be a game changer is ze Bullyam.
The other two aren't going to become game changers. They
are NHL players that are you can find.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
We thought they thought we were going to screw them
when we traded zeb Boulliam. There's a chance.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I think it's a win for both teams. All right,
well you can have a trade. We're both teams.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Well, let's see, we'll play it out. We'll see. Just
throwing it out there just for people to something to
chew on, and you can wash it down with egg
nog and have a little peanut and rip. It's that
time of year. You know what. I think Mary was
upset with Joseph. I mean they roll into town Bethlehem
(20:44):
on a holiday without a reservation at a hotel, so
they end up having to stay in a major I'd
be annoyed about. What was he thinking?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Just pregnant?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well yeah, make so, says you've got to make sure
you have a reservation. It's just crazy. We'll break We'll
come back with little death that loud radio or the ring.
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(22:27):
be kidding me.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
We don't go all next question. I mean it's like, hello,
sorry about that. I was on hold trying to get
a reservation for Bethlehem. How could you go to a
metropolis the size of Bethlehem on a holiday. I think
(22:55):
you're going to find a suite with a with a
king bed. I don't think it's going to work that way.
Here's a text message that came into the Bradgem Brian.
(23:16):
Were you disappointed that your thunder lost to the Timberwolves.
Here's what it is with me and the Thunder. I've
taken a page out of Tennebee's book and a lot
of other people Tenneby, you like Kansas City and admire them,
and you like seeing them win, right because you like
the you like the excellence of Pat Maholmes and Andy Reid,
(23:41):
And how about Tom Brady? Were you another one of
those guys I thought you, Oh you didn't, I thought
you were.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I mean, I respect him as a quarterback, but I was.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I know there were a lot of people that liked they.
I'm getting to watch brilliance and they they had no
problem with Timber and I've always been well, yeah, I
get in admire what they do, but I don't want
to see them win year after year after year. Well,
the Oklahoma City Thunder just won their first ever World championship,
(24:10):
and I admire what they do. The Oklahoma City Thunder
and SGA, to me, are the NBA equivalent of Pat
Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. What's wrong with admiring that?
I just hold them up as a shining example. They're
not necessarily my team, though, I don't mind seeing them
win because they approach every game as if it means something,
(24:37):
and it does. They are poised, they're polished, and they
were professional. Wolves won. But this is what I teased earlier.
If you'll remember, was it the Vikings who had the
(24:59):
team captain the coaches were out of the room and
the team captains all did some kind of pep talk
earlier in the season. Is that the Wild that did that?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Maybe the Vikings, but.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That was a while that did that? Right, Yes, okay,
that's great, But how many times can you pull that card?
What was the one that I that couldn't have been
the one I was talking about that and there was
another one earlier we talked about some one of our
(25:32):
local teams made some kind of a big deal and
they won. I said, well, there goes that car. I
know the Vikings did it. I know the Vikings. They go, well,
they go, there goes that car. The Wolves have like
a dinner, did they? That's not the one I'm talking about, though.
This was this was during that was before the season started.
This was maybe the Wild. Maybe maybe the Wolves did
(25:53):
it as well. All I know is here's what happened
in the in the in the in the win over
Oklahoma City, Give me a second here. Chris Heine writes
(26:24):
for Fisherraft Factory West Side Beat writer for soon to
be a Big Game or the soon to be NBA
champion Minnesota Timberwolves. He writes after the Timberwolves one twelve
one oh seven victory over the Thunder on Friday night.
Coach Chris Finch stood next to President of Basketball Operations
Tim Connelly. Both greeded players as they came off the
target center floor. Anthony Edwards came by and gave a
(26:47):
quick dap to his coach, and Edwards walked down the
hallway talking to a team camera. We fed off Finchy's energy.
Finch walked on a ramp to the left of Edwards,
and Edwards wondered if that was the first time Finch
had been ejected. Edwards forgot about January thirty that Phoenix
last season when Finch got ejected for referring to officials
as bozos. Chris Finch got ejected tenneby from the game
(27:12):
against the uh The Bokahoma City Thunder players said Finch's
timing was perfect, that it gave them an energy jolt
they needed and inspired them to keep fighting in a physical,
defensive first battle won. The Wols won by scoring the
(27:34):
game's final eight points with Edward's hitting and go ahead
three point with thirty eight point five seconds to play.
Nasrito at fifteen points said that fueled a lot of
fire in us. It was exciting to see. Obviously he
was into the game, so I don't think it was
a stunt stuff like that. You want to fight for
someone who was fighting for you, added Dante DiVincenzo. He
(27:54):
gave everybody energy, not just us but the fans. You
shouldn't have to do that, Aha, the key somebody recognized it.
You shouldn't have to do that. But you could tell,
like from that moment on, they controlled the next four
or five minutes. After that, then we settled in. We
took the energy that was in the arena. Shouldn't have
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to do that. Finch can't get ejected before every game
now is if that won't work, eventually everyone's going to
know it's a stunt. And it worked, and that's great,
especially in a game that you're playing the best team
in basketball. There's no argument they're the best team in basketball.
You can't argue that they might not end up being
the best team in basketball at the end of the year.
(28:39):
Right things change in the National Basketball Association, there could
be a completely different team hoisting the Guy Lombar. It
could very well be the Minnesota Timberwolves hoisting the NBA
Championship trophy and hoist in the banner next next November
when we opened the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season.
(29:00):
But when you got to when when a coach has
to resort to that, and you know there's so many stories.
Where was the I had another quote here, I didn't.
I just pay a phrase French was He says that
he believes that the thunder get an inordinate amount of calls,
(29:21):
right and that, and everybody thinks that. You know, everybody
hates SGA in this town. And instead of I admire
him for his ability to play basketball and to draw foul.
I guarantee you this, if he was playing for our
team and doing that, we'd love it, right, fans would
just be eating it up. Got him again? Is it?
Do you think there's a Do you think there is
(29:42):
a fan in any NBA city tend to be that
if their player was attracting fouls like that, scoring the
amount of points he isn't winning you a world championship?
Do you think they'd be going? I don't like this guy, though,
I just I wish he'd stop doing that. If you're
being honest with yourself, you you you don't believe that
(30:03):
in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I will say, and it's not the exact same. It's
a little bit apples oranges, okay, But Karl Anthony Towbs
when he was here, there were a lot of people,
including myself that would complain about his style of play
and like constantly complaining the officials and whining. So I
do think there are some personality traits. Now, you know,
(30:26):
he's not on SGA's level, so I understand it's not
the exact comparision, but he was, you know, an all
star player here and not everybody universally loved him because
of his personality and the way he played.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's air fault. Then that's a that's that's a foible,
and that's a problem with the fan who has a
problem with his personality. He gave everything he's been the
most other than now and just taking over for that,
but other than Garnett, Towns is the most important player
to this franchise has ever had. Now it is, he's
the top three. There's a mount rushmore. He's one of
(31:06):
He gave everything he had every single game, did things
for the community. Everybody complains about I. I I know
what you're saying, but I if people I wouldn't have
a problem with that. It's to me, it's no I'm
I'm on the other side of that finch. He said,
(31:40):
there is the here's, here's, here's here's a finish set. Ideally,
whether it shakes out to be forty seven free throws
or twenty seventh free throws, you just need the game
called in a way that's even on both sides. That's
everybody's goal in this game. Maybe there's fifty seven free throws.
I could have been shot in that game last night,
(32:01):
who knows. I don't know. I'm just trying to bring
some intensity to the moment and have everybody react and
respond to it. Ideally, whether it shakes out to be
forty seven to three throws or twenty seven, you just
need to be the game to be called in a
way that's even on both sides. So, in other words,
(32:23):
if one team is more aggressive, he picks up three
or four follows early, the referee is supposed to go, well,
I better start calling him on the other team. So
it's even. That's the most preposterous thing I've ever heard
my entire life. Don't you you agree with me? Right?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It depends on how he's using the word even, right,
I think the way you are interpreting it, I would say, yes,
that's ridiculous. But if his version of calling it even is, Hey,
if you're going to call this specific follow on, okay, see,
then you need to call this you know, or if
you're gonna call this specific follow on and then called
this specific follow right, that like they're getting a different
(32:58):
set of rules as to it's a follow us.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Okay, you're right, that's probably what he did mean, because
when I saw that, my jaw dropped. It's like, you
can't just try to even the score, because you know,
people think of referees do that all the time.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, they call it both ways, you call it the
way it's most because.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, exactly, Okay, maybe that then I'm alright with it,
because I was looking at that and I was going, well,
that's just insane, because you can't call it both ways.
If it's not called both ways. I also believe, you know,
I think I'm in the minority here, and maybe it's
because I'm I'm not. It doesn't the results of the
(33:39):
games and the fandom as much like the hometown teams
to win and get a kick out of watch and
occasionally it doesn't mean as much to me, So I
think fans and players. I mean, have you ever seen
an NBA player think he didn't get fouled or I
didn't follow them? Right? So it's like it's a hard
(33:59):
game aim to officiate. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's the hardest and half of them are trying to
draw follow from making it look like it's a follow
and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, So to me, sometimes I don't even know if
it's people think it's favoritism. They call it, you know,
like who are the guys that think it called? You know,
Lebron gets calls all the time, and Steph gets calls
and this guy gets calls, and well, I don't know
(34:27):
if that's really necessarily true. Guys like that, Guess what,
they're handling the ball more than other guys on the floor,
they're shooting more. They should be guarded more intensely, right,
So to me, that that just means there are they
are going to be followed more often if you have
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the ball in your hands as often as the star
players doing this league. The SGA's, the the Lebrons is,
the step Says is, the Don Sitch is is you're
probably going to be guarded more closely and they're going
(35:10):
to be in your face and so there there. I
just think it's now you can put aunt that category.
And I think there are people that think Ant doesn't
get the benefit of the doubt, and maybe doesn't. I
don't know. I don't have in front of me a
list of players from for not only for this this year,
but their career. How many times have they been they've
(35:32):
been they've been called for a foul, or you've watched
them and go, well, they should have had a foul called.
I don't know. I just I don't think refs.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I think do you think.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
They do it as office people think? Do you think
like Lebron always gets all the calls and that's the
way the league wants it.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
There are certain players that get the benefit of the
calls more than others. I do agree with that. You know,
I saw some Wolves related writers on Friday nightlating almost
as if this was you know, because it was just
a couple of games ago where Victor re Minyama basically said, hey,
they don't play with morals and ethics right like that,
they're trying to foul bait all the time. Now, he
(36:09):
didn't say in those words, but and that this was
almost like orchestrated by Finch to let's get let's get
the spotlight on Okac now, and let's have this become
a league wide. Let's get the magnifying glass from the
league on Okac. So come playoff time, that keeps building up,
(36:30):
building up. And then the narrative around ak Okac is
they get all these calls all the time, so come
playoff time, that'll start even out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Now, it could be. And I guess if you really
believe that, And I think people feel officiating is a
big problem in the NBA and the NFL. And I
think you and I, while I can I should speak
for you, well, I tend to agree that there are
a lot of botch calls. It's because those two games
are hard to effish. There's there, you know, basketball, so
(37:02):
you know there's ten guys in the flour up and
down guarding. Then this in NFL there's twenty two guys
slamming around on it at each.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
NFL I still don't know what's a holding, what's out? All?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah? Exactly right, yeah, exactly. I said it to Douce
last and we were watching the game. There was a
time golf had a clean pocket. And I said, you're
this was against my team, And I said, do you
think any guy on our team was holding there right now?
And I said it for the other team too, because
that's just the way it works, you know. But so
(37:32):
getting back to my main point that obviously I think
the coach picked the right game to do it, because
you want, you know, if you if there's any team
you're gonna need to pull out every uh trick in
your bag, your your bag of tricks, it's gonna be
(37:52):
okay see, because they are the best team in basketball
for now. That could change, but as of right now,
they are undoubtedly the best team in basketball.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
So how about okay, see, they have three losses yep,
first loss they lost by two points, second loss they
lost by two points, and the Wolves beat by five.
So the Wolves have the best game against okay see
all you're a five point win.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
That is correct. And so if you've got to dig
deep into your bag of tricks, that's a good team
to do it against. But as I say, I don't
know if he can do that again and again and again.
You can do that once a year, maybe twice, and
after that the players are going to kind of see
(38:30):
through it. The fans going to see through it, the
rafts are going to see through it. Go sit down, coach,
I know what you're up to. Just go sit down.
Want me to reject you, I will. But it's not
that big of a deal to us, And as de
Vincenzo said, it shouldn't have to come to that's my
whole issue with much of what the Wolves have done
this year. And look at that's a nice win against Okay,
(38:52):
see it goes in the win column. And if you
if they if the coach getting himself ejected was the
impetus to play harder that's the right word, and and
and to take out Okay, see that that's good. You know,
I'm all for it, But does that happen the next
(39:13):
night and the next one.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
When you're playing a twenty five and two team that
knocked you out of the playoffs last year?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Like that shouldn't be what you need for motivation, right,
That's exactly Yeah, that's it, And so we'll see how
it goes. I mean, I I but yeah, no, I
so no, I'm not the Thunder's not my team. I
just admire them, I really do. It's it's it's I
am okay. See to me is what Kansas City is
to tend to be. And a lot of other people
(39:39):
there are other people that love and I understand it.
That's why it's not that I don't appreciate what the
Mike Jordan's is of the world's doing, the Pat mahomes
is and the Tom Brady's as it is. It's I've
seen it.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, there, that's why they are. When you talk about them,
you you say their names in hush tones, Tom Brady,
Michael Jordan, Lebron James, and I get that, but it's
it's it's after they win. I like it spread around
like I love the NFL. This year, there's there's a
(40:14):
lot of new teams that haven't done anything in a
long time. There's some really good We talked about some
of the interesting stories out there. Even Green Bay. As
much as I despise them, that's a team that's on
the rise. Man, that's a good defense. It's good often
the hell of a quarterback. The Bears with the story
(40:37):
they've been writing. San Francisco is a good club. Seattle,
that's a great division of they are. The NFC West
is what the NFC North was last year, right, last
year of the NFC North had three really good teams.
Now the West is AFC. They've got some good stories
over there as well.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
So yeah, when it comes to NFC West, is a
good reason why you want the fourth place schedule for
instead of the third place schedule next year. Difference between
the playing the Cardinals or the forty nine.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, there you go. That's exactly right, and that does
make a difference. We we we've learned that, so we'll see.
I here's a text message. All you might not like
their effort. The tea will still won, which you did acknowledge.
But how about the dagger shot by aunt Man that
was so awesome? It was It was a.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Great shots as well defended as you could ask for.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, but that's why he's the best players in the world.
And here's what I'll tell you. I bet there were
four other four or five others just like it that night.
The NBA is full of It's like the NFL. How
many exciting finishes can you have? Bears versus Packers, Seahawks
(41:49):
versus Rams, Vikings versus Junon. Okay, we'll stop at the
first two. Let's take a break, come back, one more
hour to go here on the Common Man Program, Common
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.