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December 15, 2025 • 41 mins
Common Man Hour 3 -- KOC press conference, Common and Sam discuss the Heisman winner and NFL injuries.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
My Salic, a couple of thirteen fourteen fast I'm Comedy
Sam were waiting the arrival of the head coach of
the soon to be Big Game World champion Minnesota Vikings.
It's his regularly scheduled day after the game news conference.

(00:28):
Usually it's twelve thirty, but because of the Sunday night game,
they got in late, so coach needed his beauty.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Sleep, so he probably slept in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
But he is a schedule to join us here any minute,
not one on one with us, but just join with
all the media members that will be assembled at Winter Park.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I was just reminded of the Michael Parsons injury.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
They're showing it on the fifty five inch Tshiba Reggsy here.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm one of those people, and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I don't know how other fans of teams react when
arch rivals have the players the other team get injured.
If they they not that they they're glad a guy
is hurt, but they go, oh man, that helps us
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm not like that.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'd rather beat the other team straight up now. If
a key player is hurt, nothing I can do about it,
and it would you know, with Parsons out. That benefits
every team they play. And I know some Packer fans
are doing the woe as us and don't bring it
to this to this show because as a fan of

(01:32):
the Vikings and the Kiddies, both teams have.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Had their fair share of injuries over the years.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
All teams have them, you know, it's some to a.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Greater extense than others.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
If you remember, last year, Detroit had more defensive injuries
players lost injury than any other team I think. I
think it may have been in the history of the
league and won youn. Detroit lost eighteen players last year.
They were calling guys in the middle of the week
and saying, Hey, Sam, I heard you played football back
when you.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Were at Washburn.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You go, yeah, how long ago is that? Twenty years ago?
We still need David show up.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
So same thing.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
A lot of the Packers just have to play. I
think it's an anterior cruciate ligament tear. He's out, so
its next man up. And the good thing for Kansas
City with Mahomes, he also had a I think same thing,
anterior cruciate knee ligament. He's out for the season, but

(02:29):
for all intents and purposes, Kansas City season's over. I
know they still have games to play, but they were
eliminated from postseason play after the lost yesterday to.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
The Chargers, So there you go. It was leading me
into another NFL oh.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I know.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
With the Vikings eliminated from postseason play.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I know for many people that's not as much. I mean,
the A topic now is.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
The development of McCarthy. Is he and you'll tell me
when coach is ready, right? McCarthy is is the A
topic right now? How much better will they get?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Been better?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Last couple of weeks. Just talked about it going into
this last break at the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It seems as though they.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Mark Craig didn't call it dumbing it down, but maybe
simplifying the offense a little bit, maybe not worrying so
much about mechanics anymore. Let him just play football. The
coach even said that going into the Washington game is
playball just you know, I think it was a running
backs coach is the one that's credited with the little

(03:48):
spiel to the team. Just play like your sixteen year
old self. You know that old thing, which is true
sometimes you know you you know it's your professional at
your livelihood. There's a lot at stake, but it's at
the same time, I'm still playing a game of kid's games, So.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I don't even understand.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
This is common telling us how virtuous he is. I'm
not virtual. I'm not even viral. I mean, I don't
even know what he's talking about. No, I'm just you
have to explain it to some people, because I'm assuming
the text messager is one of those people that he
roots for injuries on teams that he's against.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
He would rather see, he'd rather go.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
You know, it's the old marvelous Marvin Hagler when he
saw he fought and stop a hamshow twice. The first
time they stopped the fight and Hamshow, I had to
have I think it was seventy three stitches in his
face to.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Close up the cuts.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
And they asked Hagler about it, and he said, I
saw the meat hanging down from around his eyes, but
I thought better him than me, so I kept punching.
So I think that's what this this text messager is.
I just want to separate myself from the You just
there are things you have to you have you have
to explain yourself to people, and some people know more
about you, and you have to separate yourself from the
wheat from the Chaff's a the chaef. The chaef it's

(05:08):
usually used corn starts a worker any kind of talc,
but the telcumpowder, but separating the wheat from the chaff.
And I just want to let you know, I'm not
one of those guys that you know, God, I'm so
glad he got hurt. Is in that great wish she
would have wish she would have torn the interior cruciated
like them in both these because those people do exist.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
And I'm assuming the text.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Messenger who just well sent me a text on the
Bradshaw Bryan Kfe text line feels that way because he's
not virtuous. I am virtuous, and I don't like to
if if a guy gets injured, that's just the way
it goes. I mean, it's not like I'm gonna I'm
not gonna cry or spilt milk or torn anterior or
interior or exterior cruciate ligaments. But I'd rather beat a

(05:48):
team when they're when they've got everybody there, because then
there's always that well, the only reason you want is
we're missing five guys. Well, okay, that's that certainly plays
into it, but I'd rather beat him at their best.
That's why I don't like when is load management games.
You know, you're playing a team and their they're load manager,
and say, well, what's that all about?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
You know?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
But yeah, so I am virtuous. I will.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I will admit to that. I was trying to tell
everybody out virtuous I was. That was the whole intent
of that long rambling dissertation.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Giants, we're on the road right.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
We have one road game left and then we have
the two home games, first against Detroit and then against.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Green Bay, and the season I think I think we
can go through.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, I think the way the team is playing
and the way they've sort of rallied around McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Here's what I'll tell you too. We talked about the teams.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
That are in the desperation mode, and so when people
are handicapping games, you'll hear often.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
You'll oftentimes hear team's desperate.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
So they expect a better effort from that team because
they're desperate, Like Detroit is desperate, right, they need to
win at home against Pittsburgh. They've got to run the
table and then hope for a little help along the way,
they still have that twenty or twenty five percent chance
of making them play thirty whatever that number is at
eating some other things to go their way. I do

(07:33):
believe that teams are desperate. I don't necessarily believe that
because a team is desperate they have a U that
means they have a better chance to win, because once
a team becomes desperate, there's a reason they're desperate, because
they're not very good and they put themselves in a
bad situation. I do believe in the when your team
has got nothing to play for anymore. As far as

(07:54):
postseason play, it's easier to play Lucy goosey and take chances.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And have have coaches.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Go forward on fourth down when they might not, or
try a trickeration player, or don't be fearful of calling
a more wide open game, because what's the difference. At
this point, you're just trying to play out the string.
In the case of the Vikings, you're trying to get
your quarterback more experience, more situations in which he is

(08:27):
facing third and long and facing longer odds, without the games,
the end result of the game and the grand scheme
of things making any difference. If the Vikings lose the
next three or win the next three, and it has
no bearing on anything except where they selected the upcoming
NFL draft.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
That's the one thing that will affect.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I guess teams can feel players can feel good about
themselves going into the offseason if they screen together some wins.
I guess you could feel bad about yourself if you
lose three or four in a row at the end
of the season.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think players are pretty resilient once that season has
put away. You know, if the Vikings lose three in
a row, I don't think it's woe as me. You know,
we're a terrible team in a terrible city with a terrible fan.
I think they go into next year. But I do
think I think it's unless you're if you're a team
that's in desperation mode, I think, as I said, there's
a reason you're there, and that's where the struggle becomes.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
And the team that is like the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's why I think the Vikings will probably bode well.
The Giants game is probably a coin flip because the
Giants have nothing going for me. The Mea is dark
to see still playing. I know he's been hurt. I'm
not sure if he's still playing or not. But they're
breaking in their rookie quarterbacks, so they're trying to accomplish
some of the same things the Vikings are is they're

(09:47):
trying to give their young quarterback as much experience as
he can get. Once Detroit comes to town, I would
expect the Vikings to to beat Detroit, and whether Detroit
has anything to play for or not, they've already beat
him once this year. The Vikings can play loosey goosey,
and then the green Bay game will all depend abou him.
Green Bay has anything to play for as far as

(10:09):
playoff position, whether it be a number one seed, whether
it be a seventh seed, or.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Somewhere in between. So the head coach is not shown
up yet. Well let's do this.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Let's break because we don't want to get too far behind.
We'll take a break. The coach is late, want a shock,
We'll break, We'll come back. And what we do we
should have the head coach of the Vikings live from
winter Park for his day after the game news conference
here on the fan. One thing we missed is we
go to the Kevin O'Connell news conference in prose in progress.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Grenard was having shoulder surgeries out for the year. But
here's the head coach, Kevin O'Connell in progress.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
He denied, you know, when when he got his strength
and got you know, got what he needed to be
cleared to play, he was back on the field, even
going a few weeks back to you know, minimal snap
and then building it up from there. It was something
he was playing through, not something that he knew. He
would not be able to kind of put this behind
him until probably, uh, you know, he got it fixed,

(11:11):
you know, at you know, whenever that was going to be,
and just you know, looking at the kind of coming
out of it and reaggravating it and just if it
feels like the best time to do that now, specifically
after all the things that that I just mentioned and
what he's what he's meant to us.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
You expect Christian Derris on being back at some point.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, we're gonna you know, he had some swelling in there,
you know, during the week and and just couldn't quite
get there. I say, you know, I would just say
it's a it's a week to week kind of what
that week is going to look like right now, But
but yeah, I'm hoping we we we we get him
back in there at some point.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
And that's all related to the original Yeah, No, it's
just it's just part of it. You know. He he
had a very significant injury.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
He's absolutely worked his tail off throughout the lead up,
the off season, the rehab. It's it's been a it's
been a heck of a year for him.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I've you know, been really.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Proud of the way he's attacked the rehab side of
things and really trying to do whatever he could to
build up throughout the season.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
It just was kind of something.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
We knew going into it could be, you know, very
unpredictable really, you know, coming out of significant snaps in
one game versus others, and then where he'd be at
at the end of the week.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
We've tried to create a plan to manage it.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
As best as possible, but it's it's, you know, just
part of it. For for what this season has kind
of been for Christian, I don't think I don't think
this is going to be anything that uh, you know,
will be a part of his future here. I think
he's gonna be able to, you know, with time and
with the significant injury he had. I do think we're

(12:53):
gonna be able to put this in the rearview mirror here,
but at this point it's kind of a day to
day process for for all of us to see where
we can get them to for for each and every game.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
On the tape from last night, what stood out to
you about kind of the passing game, what you guys.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
Were doing well, I thought, I thought the explosive side
of things, you know, I think the we might had
seven plus fifteen yard games that they were kind of
all a little different if you're looking at it.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
You know, there were some examples of, uh, some coverage
being rolled to Justin on a third down and we
get we get Addison over the top for a potential
touchdown chance there they got them down there inside the five.
But then there was some you know, some unique things
with some bigger groupings to to try to activate, you know,
some different different types of things that that we've done

(13:42):
in the past, but just kind of seemed to, you know,
kind of be a scenario where it was a balance, Right,
it's a really talented front. You're trying your you know,
you don't have your left tackle in the game. Really
talented interior so you're kind of play to play kind
of trying to navigate a world where you get those
plays and you have a chance to have some of
those you know, chunk chunk completions to kind of stack

(14:06):
some positives, but at the same time, see if you
can take some significant chunks and not have to drive
it against that front, you know, twelve thirteen, fourteen plays.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
And that's what I thought we did well.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
I thought we ran it just well enough to kind
of weather kind of the snap to snap storm and
not have to you know, be totally you know, off
balance one way or the other run or pass. And
then I thought there were some great, great examples of
just decision making from JJ you know, trying to activate
some play passes down the field, he checks the ball

(14:39):
down a couple of times, Aaron.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Jones for Game eight, Gain five.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Just little things like that that allowed us to continue
to kind of use some of those completions as extensions
of our run game in a lot of ways, and
doing it out of different groupings. And then you know,
finding some space you know, maybe on the edges at times,
either on some design kind of throws or some unique

(15:04):
run run concepts that give us a chance to find
some space because it was hard to come by against
that front with those with those three guys in there,
and and they got you know, Clowney. Clowney was impactful
on the edges. And they've got you know, Fowlor and
the rookie from Boston College as well.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
So it's a really good front. Backers all run really well.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
So we knew it was going to be a different
kind of game than maybe some of the other games
where we've been able to lean on the run game
a little bit, but we wanted to try to stay
balanced enough to allow those those explosives to come our way,
and we were able to do that.

Speaker 8 (15:39):
All the analytics, are you able to look at healthy
offensive line, see does any correlation between JJ plays and
as a quarterback, what do you tell him, you know,
Garrisow is not in Do you say forget that, expect
the same performers out of whatever we're playing left tack
or how do you manage through that conference standpoint?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Well, we we we played differently, you know.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
We we try to you know, have a plan, especially
when we you know, when when we determined that Christian
wasn't going to be able to go, you know, we
can we can have a plan and kind of a
method to how we want to play where the quarterbacks
shouldn't have to think about that a whole lot, whether
that's having some extra help over there, or where we're

(16:19):
where we're directing the slide, where we're where we're kind
of using our resources.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
We do have to try to make sure.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
We can maximize the amount of times we can give
him a couple of clean hitches to to hopefully find
some some open guys down the field. I did think
his pocket movement, you know, whether it was you know,
on some of those get back on trackdowns where they
made some plays early in the game in the run
game for some negatives and we had to try to
get back on track, he you know, moved up and out.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I think the significance of moving up.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
And then out of the pocket was on display a
couple of runs he had, you know, before the fourth
down touchdown, he had, you know, that scramble to almost
score was going up going forward, and then even the
early in the game second and long, you know, he
gets up and out and finds TJ out on the
boundary for a conversion on a second and long. Just

(17:11):
simple plays like that that you know, are him doing
his job at a high level, and but but doing
his job and not thinking he has to try to
overcome it by you know, maybe stepping outside the realm
of of you know, what he's being asked to do
on a play. And I think he's over these last
two weeks, he's really just locked into that mentality, and

(17:34):
I think he's seeing if I, you know, if I
do those things and I play each snap as their own,
I'm gonna get some opportunities down the field, and even
when we don't hit them all, you know, he's he's
he's making some really high level throws and I thought
that was on full display. I was really really proud
of the way he threw the football last night, even
though you know there's there's always gonna be things you

(17:55):
go back and say this throw or that throw, or
this connection with this guy, but as a whole played
at a winning, winning level, and he now has for
the last eight quarters.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
And and pair that.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
With you know, guys doing doing some good things around him,
and we're starting to function a little bit on offense.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
The throw to Jefferson in the back of the end
zone that just had a little bit too much heat
on it.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Uh yeah, it was you know, I you know, I
think Jets would probably be the first one to tell
you he can make that play. And and but yeah
he it had it had some sauce on it for sure.
And you know that's a going to the right place
with the ball. You know, everything everything about it's right.
We just got to find a way to pitch and catch.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
That one this year when you win last night, you
went in Detroit, you went in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, I mean you just you know, you just look
at uh you know, we're we're off to a pretty
good start in December. Playing December football is always an
important regardless.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Of what your record is. But you you do think about.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Out you know, you know the curse I have is
thinking about that one low red zone play. You know
against Atlanta we might have had a chance to score,
but we you know we we we don't. And or
play against Chicago that could have changed that game Baltimore, Phil.
You just start thinking about games throughout the year, and

(19:20):
it circles back to, you know, just what this year
has kind of been and overcoming some things that we're
outside of our control. But you know, starts with me
of making sure, we're doing all the things in our
control to try to give ourselves a chance and the
best possible chance to win as many games as you
possibly go. The one and O thing is real because
if you if you look at that one game, you're

(19:42):
really talking about going one to oh that week and
what where could we have been at this point.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
But that's why I'm so proud.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Of our team and just kind of where we're at
right now because these guys, it's in many ways you
play this game to get in the dance and have
a chance to try.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
To compete for a championship.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
But also, as I've told them multiple times this year,
you can learn a lot about yourself and the guys
you go to go to work with every day by
how we handle ourselves in these moments. And I think
there's constant demonstration right now of our team being made
of the right stuff.

Speaker 8 (20:17):
Paul mentioned Paul and he coached, he played for Paul Brown,
he coaching Bud Grant, Bill Walsh, you know, and he
was such a cerebral guy.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Did you cap into did you ask him a.

Speaker 8 (20:28):
Lot about those guys and most people? And was there
anybody in particular that you used as walking out.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
I just remember when I was when I was having
my weekly lunch lunches with Bud with Coach Grant back
in twenty two, There'd be some times where Coach Grant
would say some things to me and I didn't want to,
you know, be the young, annoying first year head coach
and fire a question back of him, so I would

(20:56):
log it away and make sure I go went and found.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Wiggs and asked him what exactly did he mean by that?

Speaker 5 (21:02):
But just even even being around you know, him in
draft meetings when he would talk about past rushers and
how he saw it and he had evaluated everybody, and
and you're listening to him and what you know, how
his eye saw the game, and just the wealth of
knowledge and experience. But you mentioned it, the cerebralness to him.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
He had an unbelievable way.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
About him of of kind of you know, picking his spots.
But at the same time, you found yourself going, you know,
wanting to hear more and more from him. And and uh,
like I said, it's it was. It's been a really
cool part of this job. Not all the time I
got to spend with Coach Grant before before he passed away,

(21:45):
but just having Wigs in the building and being around him,
I know made us all better.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
What's been the challenges You're trying to get just in
the ball and trying to balance like the way coverage
is playing him, but also just wanting to get him
as involved speaking and everybody.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I think you know, there's.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
I'm not sure the number fifty one maybe plays and
twenty seven of those are rushing attempts and you're trying
to activate some things and those plays just when you
don't have the normal volume of plays. And now we
had a really good yards port yards per play last
night and had some chunks and some explosives, but a
lot of those came you know at at you know,

(22:29):
you know, with how they were playing and we can
I did think we had some good ops.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know, we talked about Justin and the en zone there.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
You know, we had him in against man and man
on a on a kind of a deep crossing route
another time that that you know, you'd like to see.
Those Those have been kind of plays that when we
get that one chance that's that sometimes can be the
chance for Justin for a sequence of twenty to twenty
five plays where there's not a safety leaning to them,
there's not a double team, there's not a cloud coverage

(22:58):
rolling to him.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
So you know, when when those when when.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Those aren't when you're second and ten after those plays,
it does feel a little bit more significant than just
you know, a standard get back on track play. But
like I said, Justin still doing all the things required
for us to win. And nobody wants to make those
plays more than Justin, and nobody wants to make those

(23:23):
throws more than JJ and and we just got to
continue to try to find ways to allow Justin to
impact the game. I thought we found them, you know, uh,
you know, we created four by one one time and
got them, got them a look in the red zone.
We you know, we tried to you know, have a
couple alerts to them in the process and maybe then
throwing some screens. So we're we're just gonna always try

(23:43):
to find ways where we're not going to miss an op.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
And I think.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
He he got an ample amount of targets for kind
of the game that it was considering the total number
of past attempts we had. But but we absolutely are
are on the hunt to have our best player as
involved as we possibly can.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
The defense hasn't a lot of passage touchdown five games.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I guess just what's clicked in that stretch for.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, I think they there's been a really really good
combination of the marriage of our pressure packages, coverages, and
then you know, getting the quarterback off the spot. Even
on plays where we're maybe not in a full send
it mode where we're getting the quarterback off the spot,
that's the interior guys, that's JG.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Dallas Gink.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
You know, whether it's one of the backers going on
a simulated pressure where we're only bringing forward, but we're
bringing one of those guys and dropping somebody out. It's
been a really good combination of all those things. And
then specifically speaking to Harrison Smith last night, it felt
like it during the game, felt like it just listening
to the calls and then kind of how things played out.

(24:51):
But the game within the game that Harrison was playing
was was as special as you know, maybe any game
since I've been here, as far as against the quarterback
like that and an offense and weapons that they have,
and he's really in total control and command of what
the final call kind of is there based upon his
assessment of what Dak's trying to get to and there's

(25:14):
some back and forth going on there. As a as
a self proclaimed football nerd, it was pretty fun to
watch for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Thank you guys, Yeah, thank you too. And there we
have it. That's the uh, that's the UH.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Head coach of the soon to be a Big Game
world champion Minnesota Vikings, Kevin O'Connell was day after the
game news conference.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well break, we'll come back. We'll have all the reaction
to all of the news conference action.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Next, common Man bro Rum, you're on the fan all.
What's more fun than a barrel of monkeys? It's flop,
sweat and tears. Petty Theft Tour Episode number two will

(26:09):
be at the Eagles Club in Rochester.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Tickets are available right now.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Common Man, Meat Sauce and Rymundela Guy will be entertaining
you one show only, seven thirty January thirty. First go
to commonmanbook dot com, commonmanbook.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Dot com and order your tickets today.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
We thank the folks on the Legion for at the
Eagles Club for opening their doors for us.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
If you remember earlier in the gram, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
It was a couple of segments ago I mentioned that
when Michael Parsons was injured. I know there are there
are there's a group of fans out there that have
issues that if you're a and look at my favorite
teams are the Vikings, the Lions and whoever is playing
the Packers, right, But I don't like seeing players get injured.
It's it's it's they're laying on the line. Guys are

(26:57):
laying on the line, they're in the trenches, they're in
a training room. It's bandway, it really is. So I
had one text messager say, there goes common telling us
how virtuous he is.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
So then.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I mentioned on the air he's one of those guys
that probably was cheering the injury of Mike Parsons and
probably roots for players to get hurt if his team
a better chance to win. He writes, wrong, of course,
and I text back, of course, thanks for letting us
know how virtuous you are, because that's what he just did.
He said he doesn't, so he's telling me how virtuous

(27:31):
he is. He did exactly what he accused me of.
Then he says, I'm not virtuous. I just want the
Vikings to win so bad. I don't care how it happens.
So in other words, he's guilty of exactly what I
accused him of, of being a person that actually roots
for physical and bodily harm other to opponent players, which

(27:52):
my only response would be sad. Really, it was mentioned
we missed it in the news conference because our timing
wasn't exactly right to get to the head coach after
we took a break. He started shortly thereafter. But the
one thing we missed in the news conference was that
Jonathan Grenard is out for the season at shoal. Remember

(28:14):
he came up with the shoulder injury yesterday. He's going
to have shoulder surgery. So Jonathan Garnard out for the
rest of the season for the soon to be Big
Game World champion Minnesota Vikings say, I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
You're a big individual awards guy.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
You know you have most valuable player awards, and for instance,
our new defenseman, the Quinn Hughes character won the Norris Trophy.
I think that's for best defenseman in the league.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
He won it last year.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know, I'm not against them, but I don't put
a lot of stock into them because I don't even
know what it really proves or what it even means.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean who is very subjective.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
First of all, I mean you have, like I think
in most of the Major League Baseball, right, I think
in all of the awards the MVPs. Isn't it generally
the media that makes those selections. I don't think it's
like general managers or coaches or players. I think all
of these are determined by members of the media. And

(29:13):
over the weekend, one of the pre eminent individual awards
was handed out, the Heisman Trophy. Yes, and the winner
was the kid from is it Mendoza?

Speaker 9 (29:26):
Yeah, Fernando Mendoza.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, Mendoza wins it. Quarterback for Indiana. They're undefeated, eleven
o number one team in the country. They won the
Big Ten. Maybe they're twelve to no. Now they won
the Big Ten championship by beating previously number one. Right,
it was number one, agains number two. Ohio State was
number one. The Ohio State was number one, Indiana was
number two. And really good football game I enjoyed. I

(29:49):
watched us start to finish. Indiana won the game and
they became number one. Mendoza's their quarterback, hands up winning
the Heisman Trophy. Does he deserve it? I guess it
could have gone to I think there's five fine the
list for the Heisman. If I'm not mistaken in any
of the five were probably deserving. Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavilla
wasn't real happy that he wasn't selected, and he's now

(30:10):
since apologized for his reaction. This is an Associated Press
story that says Vandy quarterback Diego Pavilla has apologized for
his comments. After finishing second in the Heisman. Mendoza earned
two three hundred and sixty two points, including six hundred

(30:33):
and forty three first place votes. Pavilla was was next
in line at one four hundred and thirty five.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I guess there were four finalists, not five or four.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
After the ceremony, Diego reposted an Instagram story of himself
in his offensive line captioned f all the voters, but
family for life. He also reposted comments from Skip Bayless
on social media, stating that the Van Dey signal callers

(31:10):
should have won the award and seemingly throwing a jab
Atmandoza six minutes acceptance speech. Diego was photographed at a
club later that night with a sign reading f Indiana
in his section. Then he apologized, I think his handlers,
family members, coaches, teammates, friends told him, dude, this is
a bad look.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You're gonna get drafted in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
These are the things that can prevent you from being
at number one overall pick and sliding to the fifth round.
Don't be acting like an idiot, so he said. He
he said, being a part of the Heisman ceremony last
night as a finalist was such an honor as a competitor,
just like in everything I do, I wanted to win,
to be so close to my dream and come up.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Sure, it was painful.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I didn't handle those emotions well at all and did
not represent myself the way I wanted to. I have
much love and respect for the Heisman voters, of course
you do, and selection process, and I apologize for being disrespectful.
It was a mistake and I am sorry. Well you're
sorry after yourself. What the reaction was when everybody said, dude,

(32:17):
what are you doing? It's that old Southwest Airlines commercial.
Wanted to get away. He wanted to get away.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
It's just like dude, And again, it's a it's it's
I know, it's not meaningless. It's a cool award, it's
the best player in college football that year.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
It's it's as a matter of fact, when you say
Heisman Trophy, you're supposed to say it in hush tones.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
You're supposed to say Mendoza won the Heisman Trophy because
it's such a big deal and it means money too.
I get that.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
And you win the Heisman Trophy, endorsement deals, you're always
a Heisman Trophy winning.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Blah blah blah. But you got to calm him down.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's just it's.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's like what the kids said when he won an
MVP Award. He said, they're handing them out at home depot.
It's not that big of a Deal's the opinion of
a bunch of writers who don't play the game.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I think it is writers that vote. Do you know,
can you look at it and look it up?

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Who votes for the Heisman? I think it's media people.
How many voters do they have? I mean, the Indiana
quarterback earned three hundred and sixty two points, including six
hundred and forty three first place votes.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Why are that many people voting?

Speaker 9 (33:26):
So it says here the Heisman Trophy is voted on
by three groups eight hundred and seventy college football media
members vite into six regions, all living former Heisman winners,
and a single aggregated fan vote, creating about nine hundred
and thirty twle of votes.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh okay, so the fans get a piece of it too.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
Would you say that the Heisman is the most of
all the individual awards, the most prestigious. I think you
can make a case that it is.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I would think City Pages Gadfly of the Year was
the most prestigious, and I won that in nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
You know what a gadfly is, I'm very familiar. You're
looking at it. That's right. I can tell you exactly
I can.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I want you to look up gadfly the definition, and
I'll tell you what it.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Says before you even before you read it.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Gadfly somebody who is persistently annoying.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's what does it say?

Speaker 9 (34:20):
A gadfly is literally a biting fly that annoys livestock.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
And then does it have a second one that says
somebody who is persistently annoying?

Speaker 9 (34:28):
Oh yeah, I gotta go to the other definitions. Yes,
as a person who interferes with the status quo of
society of your community.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Oh blah blah blah.

Speaker 9 (34:36):
Yeah, an irritating person.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, I'm irritating and I'm proud of it.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And I do fight the status quo just because somebody
tells me something, I don't just follow in line.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Well, yes, that's what it is, what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
In other words, well, desperate team means they're gonna win,
they're gonna play better. No, it doesn't. There's a reason
they're desperate. So you've got to think that the esoteric
approach and say, well, why are they desperate because they've
put themselves in a terrible situation.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
How did they get in that situation?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Because they're not very good and they should probably started
playing with desperation week one rather than waiting two week sixteen.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
So that's what my response to that would be. So, yeah,
I the the heisman thing is. I mean, for instance,
I'll give you another.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I don't like to talk about myself, and I don't
like to use myself as an example.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Or a.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Or a comparison. You know, I just generally don't earn
an analogy. But I'm gonna I'm gonna make an exception
right here. Recently, a website called the sixty four dot Com.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
They're there there.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I don't know if it's one person, two people, a
bunch of people together, a website.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Have you heard about it?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I'm not. It's well, you don't need I'll explain what
it is. It's the sixty four dot com. And what
they do is they have they makes sort of like
with a preposter statement tournament. We created a bracket like
the NCAA tournament where we have sixty four proposter statements
and the listeners vote on it right, and we've done it,
I don't know, six seven times, and so some some

(36:15):
some dude dodebt bro Sis came up with the idea
to do it for all sorts of things.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
They do it for, like I read the example that they.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
That they had on a web that their website something
they said, you know, some of the ones they've done before,
like the best sandwich in Philadelphia, you know, I mean
they I mean, think of all the things you could
put into a sixty four team or item I guess
would be item item bracket, whether it's teams, whether it's sandwiches, restaurants,
whatever the case may be.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
So they did one recently, the sixty.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Four bracket for pot sports talk shows slash podcasts and
where they how they decided on the sixty four if
they had if they had one person and two people,
six seven people, thirteen fourteen. Select three shows from the
fan were selected nationwide to be participate in this. It

(37:11):
was The Common Man Program, the Paul Allen Project, in
the Power Trip Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
And amongst the other sixty one were.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Colin Coward right, he's heard he's national, right, Pat McAfee
another national one, Mike and the mad Dog all you know,
Mike Rue I think his name is Michael Russo, And
all of these people were in national and locals. There
was a lot of locals too well. Lo and behold,

(37:45):
I get to the Sweet sixteen and who do I
square off against the Power Trip Morning Show? We were
in the same bracket. We were in the metropolitan division.
This probably come as a surprise to you. It should
the Power Trip. Now, when you listen to the two
shows and compare them for content, preparate, positivet.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Professionalist.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
If you put those two, there's nobody in the right
mind who would say the Power Trip is a better
show slash podcast than the Common Man Program?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Is there not?

Speaker 9 (38:30):
That I'm aware of?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Should I tweeted out and fall the voters. I mean,
that's childish.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
If I knew who some of those voters were, I'd
slash the tires on their car. But I'm not gonna it,
says I took it in stride when we all know
I should have won. How I didn't. I mean, certainly
that matchup I should win. I'm I'm actually embarrassed I

(39:04):
lost to the Portrait Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
You know, no offense to the guys.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I love him, right, Maestro of the Morning, Corey Cove,
the Milton Bradley of the.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Fan, Chris Hockey, Rock Stark Straordinaire and Lucky Meat Sauce.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
But again I didn't complain about it, he said. Okay,
that's where it goes. Congratulations of the Portrait Morning Show.
I was just happy to be considered. I took the
high road. If you're looking for the common man, whether
it's Los Angeles to New York, you'll find me on
the high road. And that's where I was. On the
high road, unlike Diego, who took the low road until
he was told he needed to take.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
The high road. Are we at the end of the
show yet, Yeah, a few more seconds, I'm.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Just a few more.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
No someone says, here's what i'd it Wasn't that just
for morning shows? No, it was for all because PA's
PA's morning show, but not morning morning. Morning show means
that morning drive. But I'm happy for the Boucher. I'm
just thrilled for, and I'm thrilled for Diego, and I'm
thrilled for.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
And I'm thrilled for you. Thanks for having me, great time.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, I thought's always well. I thought you did a
bang up job as well as good to have you
as always. Hopefully get that plastic chat out of your neck,
and I hope you get over your hatred of Roosevelt eventually.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Sometime.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
We enjoyed our visit. I'm back tomorrow one o'clock. I
remembers the Nico med Bed show at twelve noon. Stick
around though, big ticket. JG there next right here on
the fan.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Good night, folks, and good night missus Calabash.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
We're listen back to any of coming Man's programs by
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