October 28, 2025 • 40 mins
Common Man Hour 2 --Mark Rosen Joins --Wentz Injury --College Transfers --World Series
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You need help.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I just attacked you as soon as you walked in
the door.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
You just shut up so I could.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Just sit down, put my headsets on, take a deep breath,
say how is your weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh my goodness, how do you do it?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm just fed up with these local teams and the
lack of effort, the mismanagement, the losing.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Just tired of all of it. They're all the same bucket.
Let's this Minnesota sports.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Let's push.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Let's push a cuarterback that should be in traction. Let's
playhim again because he gives us the best chance to win.
The one guy's got he's got an ankle spraining. The
other guy's got a he's got a torn labrum, a
fractured shoulder socket, and a separated shoulder.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And we're having him go out there getting sacked over
and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And we got a coach with the local football team
that says, yeah, we lost forty one to three, but
we still have a really good football team and.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Really good today.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, after the game, I told the guys in locker,
we're still a really good program and a really good
football team.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That was.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
That was on national television. You know, expectations of seeing
and we can talk about all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We will.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Iowa would have been happy winning three nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They would have I mean that's normal normally. That that
was the.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Eye with football offense for for quite a while, you know.
And they're a good football team. They have a good
offensive line they have, but they're not a Ohio State.
And the golfers put up a better fight against Ohio State.
That was on national television. Just an incomplete embarrassment. I mean,
you're supposed to. We've talked about it before the season,
Say forget about Ohio State, forget about Oregon. You know,
they were not in the same league as those teams
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and those programs probably never will be. But this team
has got to find a way of Now they beat Nebraska,
but you come back out of that nice win here
on that Friday night with the expectations, and granted they
were at eight point underdogs. Ioway was a favorite playing
at home, which you expect a competitive game, and the
fact that they didn't have one competitive drive on offense
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or defense really speaks volumes. That was a holding up
a mirror to your program. That's what that game did
on national television. I mean, to lose like that, it's
one thing to you know, put some points up on
the board, make it interesting. I think that, you know,
the CBS certainly expected to be a competitive game, and
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if they're could have in a way of just switching
to another game that they had to carry it the
whole thing. Yeah, that was one to walk away from.
I was stunned how one side of that game was.
But I did is what it is.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I was the one thing there was a silver lining there.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I was able to do some fall cleaning from my
art seriously, because I was going to watch the whole game.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I watched Nebraska earlier with deuce.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That was the eleven o'clock and they beat Northwestern, you know,
not a great game, a competitive game, and went down
to the wire. And then they started watching the golfers
and it was so quick. I took the first drive,
drove down the field and scored. Then the golphers did nothing.
Then they kicked a field. Well, then we had an
interception return for a touchdown, a punt return for a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
It was Darius Taylor was out before you knew it.
I mean, everything that could have gone wrong. That was
not the reason they got throttled. But like I said,
that's where you hold up a mirror to your program
and you have to recover and say, oh okay, we
got to find a way of beating Michigan State. Now
a bad Michigan State team anyway, Yeah, I mean that's uh.
And I think they lost some recruits in the process.
(04:02):
Some guys, Now, was that a coincidence or were the
the committing I saw like three different players that.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Is it three now, because I saw one for surely
following the game.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I mean, you know, like that's an EBB and flow
type of situation. Anyway, Well, especially with Neil money. You know,
one of those guys may have changed the reason, real reason.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
He some cool school might have said, we'll give you
a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to come play
for us.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Okay, I'm in you.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Know I've heard stories like that already. Oh sure schools
he here. Well, we said some of our local basketball
kids like, uh, they kid from Crete recently. You know,
Jiggy traw we played for Michigan State. Why can't I
think of his name?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm sorry, I can't think of who you're talking about. Yeah,
I know you're talking about that at the end.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Well, yeah, he was there last year. Why can't I
think of his name? Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Still in Michigan State. I remember you're talking. He left.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
He he's he's going elsewhere and he's getting paid like
a million dollars or something, or a half million dollars
or something like that to change.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Trey Holland, Treelman, Trey Holloman, Trey Hollman left.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
At NC State. NC State paid them a whole bunch
of money.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And you know he had that in that In that
final NCAA tournament game, he didn't play very well.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
He went like, go for eleven but he'd been very
good for him. He's a good player.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
All the kid from that we had here from Cottage Grove.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Why can't I think his name? He left?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
He's on his third school now he went to. I
think he's with Maryland now, same thing. They offered him
five hundred thousand dollars. So a lot of these guys
are leaving, not because they're on they don't like the
team they're currently playing with. It's just money talks and
they're being offered more money to go to other places.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And so there has to be a break for l Pain.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, there has to be a breaking point at some
point where you know there's going to be an even
evening in the playing field, so to speak. And but
it's it's you know, college sports for the most part,
the major sports are professional now and that's that's what
they've been trying to avoid. But you know, I always think, well,
in education's worth this, and you got a free scholarship
and you get a free, free education, that's worth a
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lot of money if, as anybody knows, just paid you know,
paid fees to go to have your kids go to
college a lot of money, especially now more than ever.
And that's that's worth its weight in gold, supposedly, but
not anymore, not for the major sports.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It isn't And I don't know what you know.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I know they're getting flat fees and all the colleges
are getting all this other money.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
But man, it's tough. Well rich, get.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Rich, and then you know the the To me, I'm
not a big fan of December sixteenth ball games, but
a lot of teams hang their hats on.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
There's like forty Bowl games. I means, eighty team's got
to play.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So one of the things that Fleck likes to talk about,
you know, nine straight ball games for as well. Almost
everybody gets a ball game and all you have to
do is win. See, you can be six and six
to five ondred team and play another six and six.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Or having an academic rating that's good enough to yeah, five,
that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And it's like and.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I don't know, I don't know, maybe really hard core
goal for fans love that extra Bowl game. They travel
and they go and they have fun and they go
to Memphis or some city somewhere and evan drugs. But
I think just the average fan just goes what and
the game's played a month after the regular season ends,
they get like an extra ten, twelve, whatever.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
It just does nothing, whatever blueprint. Indiana has done well
the last couple of years. And this is the they
are the outliers from watching as we've watched Big ten
football for many years. When you know mentioning the powerhouse teams,
the blue bloods, the Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State now
being involved with it, in Oregon involved with it, and
you know those are the same school. With Michigan, they're
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down compared to what they've been, right, but now it's
a basketball school that has notoriously been really average at
best in football for a long time. They've had some
great players, but not great teams. And all of a
sudden they are competing for a national championship.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
When need you get us the mark? But didn't, Yeah,
you're right, didn't. They wasn't Indiana in sixty seven? They
So there's another you know, if you're trying to make
comparisons with teams, and now, like you say, the golfers
have been there, yes, correct, And now Indiana is the
number two ranked team in the country and some people think.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
They're the best.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And I think you know, I you know, I I'm
not the biggest college football fan in the world, and
I've talked about it for many years. Part of the
reason why was because we never have a really good
college football team here, so it's hard for me to
just get excited about other teams from you know, I
just can't get that excited about watching Texas play Clemson.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I just don't get it. It's okay once in.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
A while, you know, it's it's a it's a it's
a you know now that Deuce went to Nebraska and
Pizza at Ohio State in the Ohio State, I'll watch
them of those games, and I still like I do
like occasionally watching the golfers TV for yeah, team Well
in Indiana against Ohio State. My guess is that they're
on a collision course to play for the Big Ten championship.
That should just be a spectacle. It has all the
makings for we don't know, it couldn't been.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Watched in the playoff, yes, and you know, it's just
two years in a row.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
They signed their coach to an extension, and you know,
whatever they're doing with nil money, et cetera, et cetera
for a team that's never had much success at all.
In football, it's always been, you know, going back to
Bob Knight and what he's done with the Indiana Hoosiers
and the national championships and always being you know, ultra competitive.
In basketball, it's a basketball state, not a football state.
And now all of a sudden, look at them. Now
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look at them.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Now, Vikings lose again.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They're now three and four. Packers win their five to
one and one Detroit's five and two. The Vikings are
in desperate straits offensive line not getting any healthier. Wentz
out for the season now with a season and shoulder surgery.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Should be McCarthy. They're playing in Detroit. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So the Wolves, they they lose to Denver last night
and out for well.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You don't know for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Originally they said it was going to be two weeks
and it was, well, maybe a week, and now I
don't know if it's day to day. I don't know
what the latest is on that. But well we'll talk
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you go back out there.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Joe. Joe wanted to go back out.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I bring it up because Carson Wentz played with a
fractured shoulder socket torn labrahm in a separated shoulder. He
was wearing an apparatus he said he'd never worn before.
He said he'd never played through such pain. But I
thought I could, I could go and help us win
the game. A lot of other people are Is it
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just me and some listeners that think this was a
little strange continuing to let this to Wentz play when
he was is No, he was in that. I mean
he's having shoulder season and his shoulder shurger, he had
a torn labor m and that the.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Doctors were aware of. Yeah, obviously for since the London game. No,
not at all. I think there's it's it's it's there's
not an easy answer to it. I mean, in terms
of coach player relationship, the doctor's getting involved with it,
saying you can't, you know, do further damage when you're
out there, et cetera, et cetera. But I had tweeted
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kind of the same thing. I said, look at I've
seen boxing matches where guys stop, they've stopped the fight
with a lot less pain and anguish. All you had
to do is look at his face and the beating
he was taking that night.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
My My point is when the time when you koc
this right, I find find his answer is troublesome the
time that because you can say, well, Carson's a tough
guy and wants to play, wants to play, and the
doctors said he can't injure himself any further by going
out there. Boy, he couldn't convince me of that. It's
like taking a sledgehammer and you know, beating it against
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your left shoulder. My point is when that she and
the Chiefs, when the Chargers had that game comfortably in
hand and they're up by three, three scores, and and
at that point it's garbage time. Get him out of there,
put Brozmer in. You don't have to have him try
to come back and win the game. You basically just
throw five yard outs to your running backs or to
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Jefferson or whatever, and just you know, try to stay
out of harm's way. And he's smart enough to be
able to do that, and skip Wentz out of there.
I mean, it's enough. It's it's like watching a pitcher,
you know, getting shelled and you're going, why don't they
just take him out? Well, no, we're going to leave
him in there, because you know he's got to work
work his way through it. I'm not it's not even
not an apt comparison. But the point is, I just
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when I'm watching that game and thinking, just get Max
some reps in there, and you don't have to worry about
him getting hurt. You don't have to worry he's not
throwing fifty yard bombs. The game is completely out of reach.
Just you know, run the offense for a couple of
series and get the game over with and then you
just get Carson out of there. That It's a simple
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to me. It was a simple solution, and he took
the other road. He just let until obviously the very end,
very very in to have Carson continue to take that
beating out there. And you know, it's obviously he knew
he was going to have to have surgery. I don't remember,
maybe ten of you do. I was wentz listed on
the injury list before that. They certainly didn't disclose he
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had a torn labrum.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
He was yes, he was limited or he was like questionable. Yes,
I mean it was we knew he was going to start,
but they didn't really disclose.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
What was going on.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yes, Okay, so well here's and here common we can
go on and on about this. Here's here's the problem
I have with the Vikings right now. More than anything else,
I think it's being I'm saying disguise or not talked
about as much because of the quarterback situation. When the
Vikings actually did score and went to a touchdown pass,
was it to Addison to make a twenty four to ten?
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And I'm watching a game like everybody else, and I'm saying, okay, now, now,
now it's time for this defense to step up. They're
still in the game. We've seen it time and time again.
In the end stop, get a stop, get a three
and out. You've got to be going up there. You've
got to be fired up a little bit more. The
Chargers probably will play it pretty close to the vest
because they feel they have the game in control. And
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then even though you kind of really don't get what happens,
the Chargers get the ball and go right down the field,
and I went this defense is atrocious.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And that goes.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Back to me to the Atlanta game when obviously Robinson's
a terrific running back, but Atlanta ran the ball out.
The Steelers ran the ball at him. The teams that
are just doing the basic fundamentals of beating this defense
and time and time again, to me is the overriding
story and what the Lions potentially are going to do
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on Sunday with that one two punch in the backfield
forgetting what Jared Goff can do through the air. But
I mean, if you're Dan Campbell right now and you're
looking at that tape and you're going, I got Gibbson
Montgomery pack of lunch, We're coming at your time and
time and time again, stop us good luck with that.
That to me is a bigger issue than what's going
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on with the quarterback situation, because if the defense was
playing up to his potential or what they thought it
was going to be with hard Grave.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And Allen and and and.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
The only guy that he's more of a pastor, he's
not one call him a run stock. He could certainly tackle,
makes a player.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But they're only missing one guy, and it's there isn't
a There isn't a defensive unit in the league right
now that's not missing at least one defensive guy.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
This is who they are, and this is who they've
shown us they are time and time again. And it
was you know, they did a good job day. The
Vikings did a good job of holding down Saquon Barkley,
but then their past defense was giving up you know,
the big chunk plays against him. So It's been one
thing or another with this defense pretty much all season long.
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And that's the biggest fear going to me going forwards. Well,
Jaj McCarthy's gonna have to, you know, go through the
trials and tribulations of learning on the learning on the
job right now and figuring things out, and people are
going to judge him whatever it might be. I don't
I really don't think it's gonna matter much. I don't
know what's going on in that defensive room. If Brian
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Flores has kind of lost touch with what they wanted
to be doing, if they just aren't that good, if
hard Grave and Allen have been busted kind of in
terms of stopping the run and doing the things they
have to do.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
They don't sack the sacks between the two of them,
I thinks.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I mean, they paid how much money they pay for
these guys this offseason and the secondary is not as
good I.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Think with the offensive and defensive lineman. Is this number
right or my way off? I mean total money I
think is like three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
They spent a ton and that to me and I
go back to the Charger game, that they would have
not that the Fightings would have come back and won.
But that's where the defense has to go. Okay, guys,
the offense did their job. It's up to us now
to go in there and stop it. So the Chargers
are playing it, like I said, pretty close to the vest,
and they just ran the ball. I don't remember who
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they were down to their fourth run, third or fourth
running back that night, Salidani and Tomlinson running through the line,
or Barry Sanders in his prime. They couldn't stop him.
And that's I'm going, Okay, I don't know. I don't
know how you fixed that in practice. I just I
don't think you can, because we've seen a long enough
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sample size of what they're not doing defensively, both against
the run and in critical passing situations. Going back to
the DK Metcalf touched on in Dublin where Aaron Rodgers
threw that ball, beautiful ball, and Mettgeff took off and
ran away from the secondary. Anyway, well, and then we
can discuss the quarterback situation. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That on the other side of the ball, we have
an offense that has not been producing, and much of
that is because the offensive line. Darris saw has been
on a pitch count, and then he didn't play of
much of the game against the chu Argers.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
O'Neil didn't play at all. O'Neill again, he was out
for game. He came back.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
He played two games ago, he played the entire game
was against Philadelphia, and then he didn't play at all
against the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Now McCarthy's back.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He had the bad ankle. He's out for five weeks.
Apparently he should be one hundred percent. But if you'll remember,
during his time away, the coach also talked about well
Connell also talked about trying to just get some of
the fundamentals again, getting his eyes and his feet aligned
in this and the other thing. So that's why a
lot of us have sort of thought maybe this is
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more than just injury. He because he did not play.
He had the great fourth quarter against the Bears in
game number one. The first three quarters were not good.
He wasn't good at all against Atlanta. And I'm wondering
how much is going to change here, especially with an
offensive If again, if O'Neal and Daris aren't in around
one hundred percent, it could be another long day.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Well, yes, I will say this about JJ McCarthy. It's
it's really difficult in this day and age where we
literally live week to week with especially the quarterback situation
on any given team, and when you got a young
quarterback who missed all of last year, and I just
I'm not falling back on it all the time, but
it is a it is a critical element when you
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compare him with the other rookie quarterbacks who played last
year and had their ups and downs. For the most part,
other than Jade Daniels, this is going to be a
work in progress no matter how you look at it,
and it's not going to be solved this week or
this season.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Probably if J. J.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
McCarthy, well, next year, whatever it might be, doesn't end
up being a very good quarterback, well then and Quis
in particular, maybe the head coach looking in the mirror,
going well, we don't know how to analyze talent and
that's yet to be determined. And that's that's that's the
thing that you just don't know and it's not going
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to be answered.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
On Sunday, we'll.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Talk some more our vikings.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
We talk about the Timberwolves out of the side of
the break. One more segment to go It's ten me
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A couple thirteen fourteen past, I'm comedy to be Mark
Rose and here as well your TIMBERWLS club. What's the
record now with they two and two? Yes, I think
they're two and two. Season opening victory aunt forty one points.
Since then, Ant has played very little. He has a
hammy strain. I don't I can't tell if he's day
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to day. I originally it was he was going to
be out two weeks, which would be about eight games,
because during the next two week.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Period at eight game schedules.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Then I think that changed to maybe a week, and
now I think might even be day to day.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Do you know exactly what they're saying?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I saw, you know, he was wearing his slippers like
you're wearing getting ready to go to bed at the
courtside last night. I know, no idea. It's to me
And I talked to Johnny Athletic yesterday about it. Ding
All summer we heard how Ant was working on his
new things for his game, mid range jumper, fill in
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the blanks, whatever, the best shape of his life. His
body fat was down to zero point whatever. Yeah, and
first game he's listed at one point is questionable with backspasms. Okay,
that's and he played and you just mentioned he had
forty one and open in the opening game. And then
he comes back home and he plays three minutes of
the game. The other night, I think I had it
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on TV and I was watching, you know, sudden An's gone.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Where did he go?
Speaker 5 (23:17):
And you get normally aunt disappears for a little bit
and he'll inevitably come back and he'll play and play
at a high level. This time he didn't come back.
I'm went what happened? And they didn't show up. There's
no replay of something where he's going, Oh, he grabbed
his hamstring or did something that looked like he tweaked something.
And I know it's a rhetorical question. I don't understand
how this stuff happens when you have someone who's the
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prime of his life in his career, and he does
all he does is workout. And it's not He's not
the only one. But how they end up having that
stuff happens, but you know it does, and so he's
not alone. I mean you mentioned it the other night.
I mean, Indiana had like six players out. This is
the third game of the season and they got so
many guys an injured list already. I mean, Jalen Clark
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didn't play last night, and they missed him defensively. I
can tell you that against Denver and Jamal Murray, they
were taking out a lot of frustration I think, and
that they had against the Wolves over the years, qucially
in the third chords very entertaining first half. I enjoyed
watching some of the new guys got a chance. Jade
McDaniels I thought was more aggressive than he certainly has
been in quite a while in the beginning of this season,
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but even going back to last year, and played at
a high level. But Denver was just too good with
Murray and the Joker getting a triple double, but ants
out for I don't know. I mean, that's interesting because
the Lakers come to town tomorrow night. No Luka Doncic,
no Lebron, no Anthony Edwards, and that's a nationally televised game,
and that's you know, it's like, oh boy, the people
(24:45):
who are even neutral basketball fans, there's no reason to
watch that game if you're a neutral basketball fan. And
with all the three biggest names on respective teams, it's
just And that's the first week of the season. So yeah,
they got all scored. Wills did forty five twenty nine
third quarter last night, and the defense was not good
(25:06):
and that that's but and Jamal Murray was that good.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So after Game two, de Vincenzo basically said there was
a lack of effort. Can't fix anything else, we have effort.
Head coach said the same thing. This this lack of effort,
I don't know if I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It it it.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Annoys me, and I don't know. I I guess I'm
the only one because I people like to poke fun
on me on on the brat Shawn Brian Kfean text line,
you know that I I'm.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Too worked up about it.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Get too I'm two into semantics about the effort stuff.
But all I know is when a guys says the
effort's not there. I've always said this, that's the this
team said this over and over again last year, almost
after every loss, it would always be well, the other
team just tried harder, and it is like, that's the
one thing you can control. This effort you can get
(25:58):
if you give it one hundred percent. But the other
teams better than you. You tip your cap to him
and say, hey, they're just a better club. Because the
teams are one through thirty two. One team's gonna win
at all. They're going to be the best, and after that.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
It's well, I will say this one last night, I
think the other night was worse. I mean last night,
and I've watched him for play you know plenty. Jamal
Murray can get that hot hand and that he had
a hand in his face and any number of times
and was just drilling him. I mean he was. It
was one of those really clean games where he was
just on fire. I'm not sure what kind of defense
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would have stopped him. And Joker was nine for ten
from the field. The bigger issue I have with the
Wolves right now, I don't know how they're going to
figure out their guard situation. Rob Dillingham got the chance
to play with it. He had his nose busted the
other night and he was wearing a clear plastic thing
and they only played twelve minutes last night. He was
two for two from the field. That had a couple
of nice assists, but overall really didn't do a whole
heck of a lot. Steven Senzo, he's not a point guard.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, he can't handle us all. He's not a point guard.
And let me just interasure because I want to see
you I have an answer for that. You know, they
moved up to the eighth spot to get Dylan Ham
and I was assuming he was going to be the
heir apparent to Connolly, right, and that you know, Mike
was going to see fewer and fewer minutes because he's
now thirty eight years old and dylling. Maham's nose wasn't
(27:17):
broken game one, and he did not start. He didn't
even play la a second. Do you know what that's about?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I think I think Finch said it was kind of
the matchup thing more than anything that he had. He
put bones Hyland out there, who played some last night
as well, played sixteen minutes. He was only one for
six from the field, but Conley I mean, he's he
even talked about it to kind of a yo yo
kind of world.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He played.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You know, he had played twenty six minutes last night,
which is too many for him and Dante, and I
was really high on getting him along with Randall, who's
been you know, really obviously. I mean I think Overall
have been with anstnein and been their best player. But
Dante just you know, he's three for ten last night.
He's got those he has a good looks three point shots.
(28:01):
He was only three for eight from that range last night.
He has to knock down those shots because that's why
he's in there. He's, as you said, he's not a ballhandler.
He's not a guy that's gonna run the offense for you.
So I don't know how Finch is going to fix that.
I mean he's gonna guess he's gonna have a combination
of Dillingham and Highland coming off the bench. Conley, you
can't expect to play more than fifteen minutes a night,
(28:25):
I don't think. And you know, he does what Mike
Conley can do at this point of his life and
his career, and he.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Should get more than fifteen, shouldn't Your shirt fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, maybe twenty May.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
He played twenty but you know, I don't know as
to wearing tearror keeps going on. I don't know if
twenty six minutes is ideal for Mike Conley. But you
know that's when you're when you're missing Ant. This team
relies on him so much, and the other guys just start.
Shannon gave you some moments last night. Look at the
rest of the nas reed looked better last night than
(28:56):
he has in the previous games.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I know.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
You know, he had a lot of personal distress this
last year with his sister murder and all the stuff
that's going on with that, and he's I mean, he's
responded coming back home. Looked really good last night. But
you know, the your guy, the baron Jair, and he
barely he played in garbage time at the end, and uh,
you know, Shannon got a chance to play, so I
got some stuff they got to obviously continue to work
(29:21):
on in the Ant's absence, in particular.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
See Draymond him. You see I'm watching the highlightscing about.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Well he he dragged the guy down and got teed
up and he after the way I just saw it quickly,
So I don't know if I saw it. It looked
like when he dried the guy down't he tried to
act like he was going to trying to help him
stay up. So then they called the technical. He was
yelling to the to the guy who got the who
got who? He we mogged basically, so he was telling
(29:53):
me to shut up. Then he missed the free throws
and Draymond's are laughing at him.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So interesting.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
And I know we haven't talked about it yet because
you were talking about it off air. But I went
to the game last night and I was obviously keeping
tabs of the World Series. Game was game three, and
back and forth, back and forth. I hadn't seen any
of the highlights they had it on. You know, I
saw it briefly. I went, oh the game, the Wolves
game ended, I again, hopefully get home. Now I heard
it's going to go to extra innings. So I drive home,
(30:19):
listened to the game on the radio, and I'm going there, God,
I don't want to o Tan. He's going to be
up and he's he's already been on base.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
It began bease nine times last night, right, so, and
then they walked him so I got to rush upstairs,
but the TV on I got to catch the end
of this game. Well, I watched basically, and I got
home and the Wolve's game was late. Watch those an
entire game last night in extra innings. We all know, Uh,
you made it through the end. You told me you
fell asleep in the couch or whatever, and you did
(30:46):
your normal thing.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah. I woke up at one o'clock and I checked
the phone. I said, well, I.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Wonder how the Beef's game ended up. I want to
see how the Wolves game ended up, and how the
World Series ended up. And I checked all three and
I checked World Series last, and it said the game
was still being played. It was in the seventeen. Then
I said no, and I turned it on. I watched
last evening and a half I miss.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I said to myself, you know, you try to convince yourself.
I'm going to stay up for one more inning.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Fourteenth and the fifteenth and the sixteenth. I went, both
teams having chances. I said, seventeenth inning, that's it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm out. It's one fifteen in the morning. What that means.
It's like two fifteen in Toronto.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
All those people are up and then they get their
hearts crushed last night, but it was only again, it's
game three.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
How do you recover from that? Freeman hits the home run.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Both teams had went through every picture they had left
on their staff. Basically, I think Roberts was saying of
the Dodgers, they had they were going to put an
everyday player in. They were trying to figure out who
was going to go in there. It had a little
bit of everything, including Otani who hit the two home runs,
right yep, you know it's on base nine times. They
just I want if they're going to just continue to
until they had they pitchers up.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
In the bullpen that were or that were supposed to
start the next game.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I mean, they didn't know what to.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Do about Clayton Kershaw getting in the game. That was
a moment. But I did see that, and that was
very cool because you know, his idol, Sandy Kofax at
eighty nine year old Sandy Kofax. They took a picture
of put it online because he's my hero, and he's
sitting in the stand still looking like a million bucks
at eighty nine and thinking back of us sixty years
ago when Sandy beat the Twins in Game seven in
the afternoon here when he could not throw a curveball.
(32:19):
We were just talking about injuries. Walter Alson wasn't going
to take him out even though he couldn't throw a
curveball because his arm was so bad. Yeah, he had
to throw a rely on his fastball the entire game
and he still shut the Twins out.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
You had mentioned Otani.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, no player ever had more extra base hits in
a World Series game than Otani did last night.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Two homers, two doubles in the first seven innings.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
No player in Major League, in any Major League game
ever reached more reached base more times than Otani did
when he got walked five straight times, following with four
hit barrage. And nobody ever picked up a baseball, and
nobody who ever picked up a baseball accomplished a fraction
of Otani's latest mind bloin feeds at the plate on
(33:00):
a night when they really needed to get to bed
because they had to pitch the next day.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
He's starting tonight. I mean, it's just mind boggling. Are
we watching the great really? Are the greatest player? I mean,
we hate They had that argument to.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Say it's it's a well, it's hard to argue it
just because not It's not as though he's like, he's
a really good offensive player. Oh he's an okay pitcher,
or he he's a really good pitcher and he's an
okay hitter. He's brilliant at both. It's it's it it's
it's hard to find, you know. The only comparison would be,
(33:36):
you know, when Ruth, you know, he was he was
a pitcher and then he But I.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I think he pitched that.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I don't think he well, I think after. I don't
think he pitched and then played in the field and
then pitched and played in the field. I think he
pitched early and then he turned into an everyday player instead.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
It's obviously different errors and everything that goes on, but
my goodness, I think Toronto. Toronto needed to find a
way to win the game last night. Emotionally, it's going
to be really tough to go out there tonight and
face Otani and try to come back from it. They've
done it now and again. Springer, I don't know what
happened he I saw the replay. He tweaked something in
his back. He had to go out of the game,
(34:14):
and he's a he's a catalyst.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
As we know.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
He hit the big three run homer uh to put
them in the World Series. But without him in the
lineup that Toronto Toronto Blue Jays lose a lot, a
lot of punch with him going. So hopefully you can
come back.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Someone sent a text message that says, common only the
Vikes and the Wolves come on some wild. There's not
much to say about the Wild right now. They're struggling,
said ten to be one, winning their last six or
seven is.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It something like that.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, they started off to and one, but now they've
only won three games in the first ten.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
A lot of goals, aren't.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
They think they I don't think they problem. I don't
think they won a game in six seven games.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Six seven games. There's only one game, yeah one winning
those six seven games.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And it's uh yeah, there's there's there's nothing pretty about it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
They're just.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
It's some of the time and they're playing teams they
weren't when they stay at home, they weren't that impressive,
I mean record wise early in the season. So it's
it's definitely a bad early season trend. When you're looking
at the number of goals are giving up with its goaltending,
lack of defense and and et cetera, et cetera. Zucarella
is coming back, right, isn't that soon?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
That's at least he was on the ice today. That's
that's encouraging everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
They can get.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Was originally scheduled for six to eight weeks and he's
at week five.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, but back on the ice today. Yeah, that's good, and.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
They need him because they're there are top six. Uh
you know with Johansen's had to play in the top six.
I know he scored a couple of goals recently, but
still I don't want him in your top six. You know,
Tarasenko has been pretty mad so far. They could use
the gorilla and he came right at night with that caprice.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
So lovely sports weekend we had, Yeah, it's about as
dreadful as it could get.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Well, the two football teams was, yeah, they were well,
Balloons won last night.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
What else you wanted? They want to playoff game? They did?
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I had no idea how the last night that they
played series TWITTER playoffs in soccer, I.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Didn't know that. I know, I didn't either.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
What for me, it's like it seems like the Loons
season never ends.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
It seems like.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
But they're always playing. There's some tournament, there's some championship,
there's something. Do they ever have time off or do
they play year round?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
It seems like they.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Play around starting March on the ground.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
So they Yeah, they're involved in some point. It's nice
to Deuce was into it.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
He watched it last night.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
He's well, he played soccer, so he he's a soccer
play by play guy.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
He's based on the voice of Lakeville South Girl Soccer.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Next year we'll be having a lot of soccer talkers.
World Cup is here, so, I mean, it's saw an
interview with Messi. He's gonna probably play one more time.
The world's best player right now continues to be so,
I mean, it'll be a big deal here in the country,
hosting it a number of sites next year.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Then you're Twins Club.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I ran into someone from the Twins last night at
the Target Center. I said, you guys ever got to
name a manager. You're gonna go to spring training and
have like just a designated person.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Well, if you remember, a lot of teams will just
have all have an opener. That's true. Maybe We'll just
have a different manager every.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Game, like a rotating captain, like the Wild they to
do in their first year.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Just let the first base coach manage the club with
the lineup.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I have an idea, Oh good, bring back Sonny Gray.
Have them be a player manager. That player manager. The
players respected them, they loved them, is what they did,
and he'd be on our staff.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I managine watching that game last night, or any of
these playoff games, and then you look at the Twins
roster and they end up they're playing the same sport.
I mean it's I mean, we traded away half a roster.
Well that's what I'm our media CA roster. Yeah, I
got Joe, Ryan and Lopez.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
And that's my favorite is people bragging about the prospect
rankings for the Twins, like, well, they traded away half
their team this year.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
They should be they should have some prospects that they
got to play and play well. Fun times.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
He liked this Twins club. There's not much to like.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Uh No, I mean, I can only talk about Walker
Drinkins so much, and you know that's running out of
things to say about that team, about that franchise, About ownership,
Baseball is gonna have probably an owne up with a
lockout next year.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
After next year, who knows.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So on Sunday is there going to be sinker sale
for the I'm not sailing too much, I don't think again.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I all to talk to me about JJ and that's fine.
It's you'll give us a little give the little juice
one thing to talk about, all right, It'll be he's back,
Let's keep him healthy, Let's see how he plays. How
the Vikings are going to stop Gibbs and Montgomery and
what what I mean, especially Gibbs is phenomenal. I I
(39:18):
so love watching a kid play and run. I don't
know how the Vikings are going to possibly stop him.
I can see the Lions are putting up forty on
that game. I don't know what Minnesota can possibly do
to slow them down. That's in Detroit. You know, Campbell's
not going to take any prisoners. He's hell bent on
doing what he has to do. And he said some
nice things about McCarthy because he had a good fourth
quarter against the Bears. What's he going to say, It's
(39:40):
going back to Michigan. That's about the only thing you
can say. McCarthy is but.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Not anything can happened, but it yeah, I mean sure
it's not.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
It doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Very promising for the Purples Current Sunday. We'll see how
it goes.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yep, you'll be back to all right, I will. We'll
see him that Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And then dews is really excited about spreads. When he's
so excited, he might have coming in studio. Oh yeah,
that's right. He had the chargers.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Not only dad, he also had he had two good.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I had one really good one and one really bad one.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, you had one really bad one for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Sure, I didn't looked at the score.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
You might be in last by the time we get
to Thursday at Rosie very well.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
I had one really good one. It picked up a
lot of points on I don't remember who that is.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
We'll see you tomorrow at too.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I'll be here, Tanny.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
He was well. We enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
But we just stick around. Take a j G there
next her on the fan. All right, I got good night,
good night missus Calabash.
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
You need help.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I just attacked you as soon as you walked in
the door.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
You just shut up so I could.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Just sit down, put my headsets on, take a deep breath,
say how is your weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh my goodness, how do you do it?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm just fed up with these local teams and the
lack of effort, the mismanagement, the losing.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Just tired of all of it. They're all the same bucket.
Let's this Minnesota sports.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Let's push.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Let's push a cuarterback that should be in traction. Let's
playhim again because he gives us the best chance to win.
The one guy's got he's got an ankle spraining. The
other guy's got a he's got a torn labrum, a
fractured shoulder socket, and a separated shoulder.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And we're having him go out there getting sacked over
and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And we got a coach with the local football team
that says, yeah, we lost forty one to three, but
we still have a really good football team and.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Really good today.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, after the game, I told the guys in locker,
we're still a really good program and a really good
football team.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That was.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
That was on national television. You know, expectations of seeing
and we can talk about all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We will.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Iowa would have been happy winning three nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They would have I mean that's normal normally. That that
was the.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Eye with football offense for for quite a while, you know.
And they're a good football team. They have a good
offensive line they have, but they're not a Ohio State.
And the golfers put up a better fight against Ohio State.
That was on national television. Just an incomplete embarrassment. I mean,
you're supposed to. We've talked about it before the season,
Say forget about Ohio State, forget about Oregon. You know,
they were not in the same league as those teams
(02:16):
and those programs probably never will be. But this team
has got to find a way of Now they beat Nebraska,
but you come back out of that nice win here
on that Friday night with the expectations, and granted they
were at eight point underdogs. Ioway was a favorite playing
at home, which you expect a competitive game, and the
fact that they didn't have one competitive drive on offense
(02:38):
or defense really speaks volumes. That was a holding up
a mirror to your program. That's what that game did
on national television. I mean, to lose like that, it's
one thing to you know, put some points up on
the board, make it interesting. I think that, you know,
the CBS certainly expected to be a competitive game, and
(02:59):
if they're could have in a way of just switching
to another game that they had to carry it the
whole thing. Yeah, that was one to walk away from.
I was stunned how one side of that game was.
But I did is what it is.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I was the one thing there was a silver lining there.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I was able to do some fall cleaning from my
art seriously, because I was going to watch the whole game.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I watched Nebraska earlier with deuce.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That was the eleven o'clock and they beat Northwestern, you know,
not a great game, a competitive game, and went down
to the wire. And then they started watching the golfers
and it was so quick. I took the first drive,
drove down the field and scored. Then the golphers did nothing.
Then they kicked a field. Well, then we had an
interception return for a touchdown, a punt return for a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
It was Darius Taylor was out before you knew it.
I mean, everything that could have gone wrong. That was
not the reason they got throttled. But like I said,
that's where you hold up a mirror to your program
and you have to recover and say, oh okay, we
got to find a way of beating Michigan State. Now
a bad Michigan State team anyway, Yeah, I mean that's uh.
And I think they lost some recruits in the process.
(04:02):
Some guys, Now, was that a coincidence or were the
the committing I saw like three different players that.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Is it three now, because I saw one for surely
following the game.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I mean, you know, like that's an EBB and flow
type of situation. Anyway, Well, especially with Neil money. You know,
one of those guys may have changed the reason, real reason.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
He some cool school might have said, we'll give you
a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to come play
for us.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Okay, I'm in you.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Know I've heard stories like that already. Oh sure schools
he here. Well, we said some of our local basketball
kids like, uh, they kid from Crete recently. You know,
Jiggy traw we played for Michigan State. Why can't I
think of his name?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm sorry, I can't think of who you're talking about. Yeah,
I know you're talking about that at the end.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Well, yeah, he was there last year. Why can't I
think of his name? Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Still in Michigan State. I remember you're talking. He left.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
He he's he's going elsewhere and he's getting paid like
a million dollars or something, or a half million dollars
or something like that to change.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Trey Holland, Treelman, Trey Holloman, Trey Hollman left.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
At NC State. NC State paid them a whole bunch
of money.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And you know he had that in that In that
final NCAA tournament game, he didn't play very well.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
He went like, go for eleven but he'd been very
good for him. He's a good player.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
All the kid from that we had here from Cottage Grove.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Why can't I think his name? He left?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
He's on his third school now he went to. I
think he's with Maryland now, same thing. They offered him
five hundred thousand dollars. So a lot of these guys
are leaving, not because they're on they don't like the
team they're currently playing with. It's just money talks and
they're being offered more money to go to other places.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And so there has to be a break for l Pain.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, there has to be a breaking point at some
point where you know there's going to be an even
evening in the playing field, so to speak. And but
it's it's you know, college sports for the most part,
the major sports are professional now and that's that's what
they've been trying to avoid. But you know, I always think, well,
in education's worth this, and you got a free scholarship
and you get a free, free education, that's worth a
(06:02):
lot of money if, as anybody knows, just paid you know,
paid fees to go to have your kids go to
college a lot of money, especially now more than ever.
And that's that's worth its weight in gold, supposedly, but
not anymore, not for the major sports.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It isn't And I don't know what you know.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I know they're getting flat fees and all the colleges
are getting all this other money.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
But man, it's tough. Well rich, get.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Rich, and then you know the the To me, I'm
not a big fan of December sixteenth ball games, but
a lot of teams hang their hats on.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
There's like forty Bowl games. I means, eighty team's got
to play.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So one of the things that Fleck likes to talk about,
you know, nine straight ball games for as well. Almost
everybody gets a ball game and all you have to
do is win. See, you can be six and six
to five ondred team and play another six and six.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Or having an academic rating that's good enough to yeah, five,
that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And it's like and.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I don't know, I don't know, maybe really hard core
goal for fans love that extra Bowl game. They travel
and they go and they have fun and they go
to Memphis or some city somewhere and evan drugs. But
I think just the average fan just goes what and
the game's played a month after the regular season ends,
they get like an extra ten, twelve, whatever.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
It just does nothing, whatever blueprint. Indiana has done well
the last couple of years. And this is the they
are the outliers from watching as we've watched Big ten
football for many years. When you know mentioning the powerhouse teams,
the blue bloods, the Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State now
being involved with it, in Oregon involved with it, and
you know those are the same school. With Michigan, they're
(07:43):
down compared to what they've been, right, but now it's
a basketball school that has notoriously been really average at
best in football for a long time. They've had some
great players, but not great teams. And all of a
sudden they are competing for a national championship.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
When need you get us the mark? But didn't, Yeah,
you're right, didn't. They wasn't Indiana in sixty seven? They
So there's another you know, if you're trying to make
comparisons with teams, and now, like you say, the golfers
have been there, yes, correct, And now Indiana is the
number two ranked team in the country and some people think.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
They're the best.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And I think you know, I you know, I I'm
not the biggest college football fan in the world, and
I've talked about it for many years. Part of the
reason why was because we never have a really good
college football team here, so it's hard for me to
just get excited about other teams from you know, I
just can't get that excited about watching Texas play Clemson.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I just don't get it. It's okay once in.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
A while, you know, it's it's a it's a it's
a you know now that Deuce went to Nebraska and
Pizza at Ohio State in the Ohio State, I'll watch
them of those games, and I still like I do
like occasionally watching the golfers TV for yeah, team Well
in Indiana against Ohio State. My guess is that they're
on a collision course to play for the Big Ten championship.
That should just be a spectacle. It has all the
makings for we don't know, it couldn't been.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Watched in the playoff, yes, and you know, it's just
two years in a row.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
They signed their coach to an extension, and you know,
whatever they're doing with nil money, et cetera, et cetera
for a team that's never had much success at all.
In football, it's always been, you know, going back to
Bob Knight and what he's done with the Indiana Hoosiers
and the national championships and always being you know, ultra competitive.
In basketball, it's a basketball state, not a football state.
And now all of a sudden, look at them. Now
(09:24):
look at them.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Now, Vikings lose again.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They're now three and four. Packers win their five to
one and one Detroit's five and two. The Vikings are
in desperate straits offensive line not getting any healthier. Wentz
out for the season now with a season and shoulder surgery.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Should be McCarthy. They're playing in Detroit. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So the Wolves, they they lose to Denver last night
and out for well.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You don't know for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Originally they said it was going to be two weeks
and it was, well, maybe a week, and now I
don't know if it's day to day. I don't know
what the latest is on that. But well we'll talk
about the Wolves as well. Uh here on the Common
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Speaker 2 (10:58):
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Speaker 3 (10:59):
I'm com and he's tending me the legendary Mark Rose
and here as well Rilla in Manila, Joe Fraser against
Muhammad Ali. That was back when they fought fifteen rounders
and between the fourteenth and fifteenth round, Eddie Futch, Joe
Fraser's handler, threw in the towel, said I can't let
(11:21):
you go back out there.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Joe. Joe wanted to go back out.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I bring it up because Carson Wentz played with a
fractured shoulder socket torn labrahm in a separated shoulder. He
was wearing an apparatus he said he'd never worn before.
He said he'd never played through such pain. But I
thought I could, I could go and help us win
the game. A lot of other people are Is it
(11:46):
just me and some listeners that think this was a
little strange continuing to let this to Wentz play when
he was is No, he was in that. I mean
he's having shoulder season and his shoulder shurger, he had
a torn labor m and that the.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Doctors were aware of. Yeah, obviously for since the London game. No,
not at all. I think there's it's it's it's there's
not an easy answer to it. I mean, in terms
of coach player relationship, the doctor's getting involved with it,
saying you can't, you know, do further damage when you're
out there, et cetera, et cetera. But I had tweeted
(12:22):
kind of the same thing. I said, look at I've
seen boxing matches where guys stop, they've stopped the fight
with a lot less pain and anguish. All you had
to do is look at his face and the beating
he was taking that night.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
My My point is when the time when you koc
this right, I find find his answer is troublesome the
time that because you can say, well, Carson's a tough
guy and wants to play, wants to play, and the
doctors said he can't injure himself any further by going
out there. Boy, he couldn't convince me of that. It's
like taking a sledgehammer and you know, beating it against
(12:57):
your left shoulder. My point is when that she and
the Chiefs, when the Chargers had that game comfortably in
hand and they're up by three, three scores, and and
at that point it's garbage time. Get him out of there,
put Brozmer in. You don't have to have him try
to come back and win the game. You basically just
throw five yard outs to your running backs or to
(13:19):
Jefferson or whatever, and just you know, try to stay
out of harm's way. And he's smart enough to be
able to do that, and skip Wentz out of there.
I mean, it's enough. It's it's like watching a pitcher,
you know, getting shelled and you're going, why don't they
just take him out? Well, no, we're going to leave
him in there, because you know he's got to work
work his way through it. I'm not it's not even
not an apt comparison. But the point is, I just
(13:42):
when I'm watching that game and thinking, just get Max
some reps in there, and you don't have to worry about
him getting hurt. You don't have to worry he's not
throwing fifty yard bombs. The game is completely out of reach.
Just you know, run the offense for a couple of
series and get the game over with and then you
just get Carson out of there. That It's a simple
(14:02):
to me. It was a simple solution, and he took
the other road. He just let until obviously the very end,
very very in to have Carson continue to take that
beating out there. And you know, it's obviously he knew
he was going to have to have surgery. I don't remember,
maybe ten of you do. I was wentz listed on
the injury list before that. They certainly didn't disclose he
(14:24):
had a torn labrum.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
He was yes, he was limited or he was like questionable. Yes,
I mean it was we knew he was going to start,
but they didn't really disclose.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
What was going on.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yes, Okay, so well here's and here common we can
go on and on about this. Here's here's the problem
I have with the Vikings right now. More than anything else,
I think it's being I'm saying disguise or not talked
about as much because of the quarterback situation. When the
Vikings actually did score and went to a touchdown pass,
was it to Addison to make a twenty four to ten?
(14:55):
And I'm watching a game like everybody else, and I'm saying, okay, now, now,
now it's time for this defense to step up. They're
still in the game. We've seen it time and time again.
In the end stop, get a stop, get a three
and out. You've got to be going up there. You've
got to be fired up a little bit more. The
Chargers probably will play it pretty close to the vest
because they feel they have the game in control. And
(15:16):
then even though you kind of really don't get what happens,
the Chargers get the ball and go right down the field,
and I went this defense is atrocious.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And that goes.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Back to me to the Atlanta game when obviously Robinson's
a terrific running back, but Atlanta ran the ball out.
The Steelers ran the ball at him. The teams that
are just doing the basic fundamentals of beating this defense
and time and time again, to me is the overriding
story and what the Lions potentially are going to do
(15:47):
on Sunday with that one two punch in the backfield
forgetting what Jared Goff can do through the air. But
I mean, if you're Dan Campbell right now and you're
looking at that tape and you're going, I got Gibbson
Montgomery pack of lunch, We're coming at your time and
time and time again, stop us good luck with that.
That to me is a bigger issue than what's going
(16:09):
on with the quarterback situation, because if the defense was
playing up to his potential or what they thought it
was going to be with hard Grave.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And Allen and and and.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
The only guy that he's more of a pastor, he's
not one call him a run stock. He could certainly tackle,
makes a player.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But they're only missing one guy, and it's there isn't
a There isn't a defensive unit in the league right
now that's not missing at least one defensive guy.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
This is who they are, and this is who they've
shown us they are time and time again. And it
was you know, they did a good job day. The
Vikings did a good job of holding down Saquon Barkley,
but then their past defense was giving up you know,
the big chunk plays against him. So It's been one
thing or another with this defense pretty much all season long.
(16:54):
And that's the biggest fear going to me going forwards. Well,
Jaj McCarthy's gonna have to, you know, go through the
trials and tribulations of learning on the learning on the
job right now and figuring things out, and people are
going to judge him whatever it might be. I don't
I really don't think it's gonna matter much. I don't
know what's going on in that defensive room. If Brian
(17:14):
Flores has kind of lost touch with what they wanted
to be doing, if they just aren't that good, if
hard Grave and Allen have been busted kind of in
terms of stopping the run and doing the things they
have to do.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
They don't sack the sacks between the two of them,
I thinks.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I mean, they paid how much money they pay for
these guys this offseason and the secondary is not as
good I.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Think with the offensive and defensive lineman. Is this number
right or my way off? I mean total money I
think is like three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
They spent a ton and that to me and I
go back to the Charger game, that they would have
not that the Fightings would have come back and won.
But that's where the defense has to go. Okay, guys,
the offense did their job. It's up to us now
to go in there and stop it. So the Chargers
are playing it, like I said, pretty close to the vest,
and they just ran the ball. I don't remember who
(18:01):
they were down to their fourth run, third or fourth
running back that night, Salidani and Tomlinson running through the line,
or Barry Sanders in his prime. They couldn't stop him.
And that's I'm going, Okay, I don't know. I don't
know how you fixed that in practice. I just I
don't think you can, because we've seen a long enough
(18:22):
sample size of what they're not doing defensively, both against
the run and in critical passing situations. Going back to
the DK Metcalf touched on in Dublin where Aaron Rodgers
threw that ball, beautiful ball, and Mettgeff took off and
ran away from the secondary. Anyway, well, and then we
can discuss the quarterback situation. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That on the other side of the ball, we have
an offense that has not been producing, and much of
that is because the offensive line. Darris saw has been
on a pitch count, and then he didn't play of
much of the game against the chu Argers.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
O'Neil didn't play at all. O'Neill again, he was out
for game. He came back.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
He played two games ago, he played the entire game
was against Philadelphia, and then he didn't play at all
against the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Now McCarthy's back.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He had the bad ankle. He's out for five weeks.
Apparently he should be one hundred percent. But if you'll remember,
during his time away, the coach also talked about well
Connell also talked about trying to just get some of
the fundamentals again, getting his eyes and his feet aligned
in this and the other thing. So that's why a
lot of us have sort of thought maybe this is
(19:35):
more than just injury. He because he did not play.
He had the great fourth quarter against the Bears in
game number one. The first three quarters were not good.
He wasn't good at all against Atlanta. And I'm wondering
how much is going to change here, especially with an
offensive If again, if O'Neal and Daris aren't in around
one hundred percent, it could be another long day.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Well, yes, I will say this about JJ McCarthy. It's
it's really difficult in this day and age where we
literally live week to week with especially the quarterback situation
on any given team, and when you got a young
quarterback who missed all of last year, and I just
I'm not falling back on it all the time, but
it is a it is a critical element when you
(20:15):
compare him with the other rookie quarterbacks who played last
year and had their ups and downs. For the most part,
other than Jade Daniels, this is going to be a
work in progress no matter how you look at it,
and it's not going to be solved this week or
this season.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Probably if J. J.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
McCarthy, well, next year, whatever it might be, doesn't end
up being a very good quarterback, well then and Quis
in particular, maybe the head coach looking in the mirror,
going well, we don't know how to analyze talent and
that's yet to be determined. And that's that's that's the
thing that you just don't know and it's not going
(20:53):
to be answered.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
On Sunday, we'll.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Talk some more our vikings.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
We talk about the Timberwolves out of the side of
the break. One more segment to go It's ten me
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Speaker 3 (21:57):
A couple thirteen fourteen past, I'm comedy to be Mark
Rose and here as well your TIMBERWLS club. What's the
record now with they two and two? Yes, I think
they're two and two. Season opening victory aunt forty one points.
Since then, Ant has played very little. He has a
hammy strain. I don't I can't tell if he's day
(22:18):
to day. I originally it was he was going to
be out two weeks, which would be about eight games,
because during the next two week.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Period at eight game schedules.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Then I think that changed to maybe a week, and
now I think might even be day to day.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Do you know exactly what they're saying?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I saw, you know, he was wearing his slippers like
you're wearing getting ready to go to bed at the
courtside last night. I know, no idea. It's to me
And I talked to Johnny Athletic yesterday about it. Ding
All summer we heard how Ant was working on his
new things for his game, mid range jumper, fill in
(22:51):
the blanks, whatever, the best shape of his life. His
body fat was down to zero point whatever. Yeah, and
first game he's listed at one point is questionable with backspasms. Okay,
that's and he played and you just mentioned he had
forty one and open in the opening game. And then
he comes back home and he plays three minutes of
the game. The other night, I think I had it
(23:13):
on TV and I was watching, you know, sudden An's gone.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Where did he go?
Speaker 5 (23:17):
And you get normally aunt disappears for a little bit
and he'll inevitably come back and he'll play and play
at a high level. This time he didn't come back.
I'm went what happened? And they didn't show up. There's
no replay of something where he's going, Oh, he grabbed
his hamstring or did something that looked like he tweaked something.
And I know it's a rhetorical question. I don't understand
how this stuff happens when you have someone who's the
(23:40):
prime of his life in his career, and he does
all he does is workout. And it's not He's not
the only one. But how they end up having that
stuff happens, but you know it does, and so he's
not alone. I mean you mentioned it the other night.
I mean, Indiana had like six players out. This is
the third game of the season and they got so
many guys an injured list already. I mean, Jalen Clark
(24:01):
didn't play last night, and they missed him defensively. I
can tell you that against Denver and Jamal Murray, they
were taking out a lot of frustration I think, and
that they had against the Wolves over the years, qucially
in the third chords very entertaining first half. I enjoyed
watching some of the new guys got a chance. Jade
McDaniels I thought was more aggressive than he certainly has
been in quite a while in the beginning of this season,
(24:22):
but even going back to last year, and played at
a high level. But Denver was just too good with
Murray and the Joker getting a triple double, but ants
out for I don't know. I mean, that's interesting because
the Lakers come to town tomorrow night. No Luka Doncic,
no Lebron, no Anthony Edwards, and that's a nationally televised game,
and that's you know, it's like, oh boy, the people
(24:45):
who are even neutral basketball fans, there's no reason to
watch that game if you're a neutral basketball fan. And
with all the three biggest names on respective teams, it's
just And that's the first week of the season. So yeah,
they got all scored. Wills did forty five twenty nine
third quarter last night, and the defense was not good
(25:06):
and that that's but and Jamal Murray was that good.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So after Game two, de Vincenzo basically said there was
a lack of effort. Can't fix anything else, we have effort.
Head coach said the same thing. This this lack of effort,
I don't know if I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It it it.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Annoys me, and I don't know. I I guess I'm
the only one because I people like to poke fun
on me on on the brat Shawn Brian Kfean text line,
you know that I I'm.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Too worked up about it.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Get too I'm two into semantics about the effort stuff.
But all I know is when a guys says the
effort's not there. I've always said this, that's the this
team said this over and over again last year, almost
after every loss, it would always be well, the other
team just tried harder, and it is like, that's the
one thing you can control. This effort you can get
(25:58):
if you give it one hundred percent. But the other
teams better than you. You tip your cap to him
and say, hey, they're just a better club. Because the
teams are one through thirty two. One team's gonna win
at all. They're going to be the best, and after that.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
It's well, I will say this one last night, I
think the other night was worse. I mean last night,
and I've watched him for play you know plenty. Jamal
Murray can get that hot hand and that he had
a hand in his face and any number of times
and was just drilling him. I mean he was. It
was one of those really clean games where he was
just on fire. I'm not sure what kind of defense
(26:30):
would have stopped him. And Joker was nine for ten
from the field. The bigger issue I have with the
Wolves right now, I don't know how they're going to
figure out their guard situation. Rob Dillingham got the chance
to play with it. He had his nose busted the
other night and he was wearing a clear plastic thing
and they only played twelve minutes last night. He was
two for two from the field. That had a couple
of nice assists, but overall really didn't do a whole
heck of a lot. Steven Senzo, he's not a point guard.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, he can't handle us all. He's not a point guard.
And let me just interasure because I want to see
you I have an answer for that. You know, they
moved up to the eighth spot to get Dylan Ham
and I was assuming he was going to be the
heir apparent to Connolly, right, and that you know, Mike
was going to see fewer and fewer minutes because he's
now thirty eight years old and dylling. Maham's nose wasn't
(27:17):
broken game one, and he did not start. He didn't
even play la a second. Do you know what that's about?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I think I think Finch said it was kind of
the matchup thing more than anything that he had. He
put bones Hyland out there, who played some last night
as well, played sixteen minutes. He was only one for
six from the field, but Conley I mean, he's he
even talked about it to kind of a yo yo
kind of world.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He played.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You know, he had played twenty six minutes last night,
which is too many for him and Dante, and I
was really high on getting him along with Randall, who's
been you know, really obviously. I mean I think Overall
have been with anstnein and been their best player. But
Dante just you know, he's three for ten last night.
He's got those he has a good looks three point shots.
(28:01):
He was only three for eight from that range last night.
He has to knock down those shots because that's why
he's in there. He's, as you said, he's not a ballhandler.
He's not a guy that's gonna run the offense for you.
So I don't know how Finch is going to fix that.
I mean he's gonna guess he's gonna have a combination
of Dillingham and Highland coming off the bench. Conley, you
can't expect to play more than fifteen minutes a night,
(28:25):
I don't think. And you know, he does what Mike
Conley can do at this point of his life and
his career, and he.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Should get more than fifteen, shouldn't Your shirt fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, maybe twenty May.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
He played twenty but you know, I don't know as
to wearing tearror keeps going on. I don't know if
twenty six minutes is ideal for Mike Conley. But you
know that's when you're when you're missing Ant. This team
relies on him so much, and the other guys just start.
Shannon gave you some moments last night. Look at the
rest of the nas reed looked better last night than
(28:56):
he has in the previous games.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I know.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
You know, he had a lot of personal distress this
last year with his sister murder and all the stuff
that's going on with that, and he's I mean, he's
responded coming back home. Looked really good last night. But
you know, the your guy, the baron Jair, and he
barely he played in garbage time at the end, and uh,
you know, Shannon got a chance to play, so I
got some stuff they got to obviously continue to work
(29:21):
on in the Ant's absence, in particular.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
See Draymond him. You see I'm watching the highlightscing about.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Well he he dragged the guy down and got teed
up and he after the way I just saw it quickly,
So I don't know if I saw it. It looked
like when he dried the guy down't he tried to
act like he was going to trying to help him
stay up. So then they called the technical. He was
yelling to the to the guy who got the who
got who? He we mogged basically, so he was telling
(29:53):
me to shut up. Then he missed the free throws
and Draymond's are laughing at him.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So interesting.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
And I know we haven't talked about it yet because
you were talking about it off air. But I went
to the game last night and I was obviously keeping
tabs of the World Series. Game was game three, and
back and forth, back and forth. I hadn't seen any
of the highlights they had it on. You know, I
saw it briefly. I went, oh the game, the Wolves
game ended, I again, hopefully get home. Now I heard
it's going to go to extra innings. So I drive home,
(30:19):
listened to the game on the radio, and I'm going there, God,
I don't want to o Tan. He's going to be
up and he's he's already been on base.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
It began bease nine times last night, right, so, and
then they walked him so I got to rush upstairs,
but the TV on I got to catch the end
of this game. Well, I watched basically, and I got
home and the Wolve's game was late. Watch those an
entire game last night in extra innings. We all know, Uh,
you made it through the end. You told me you
fell asleep in the couch or whatever, and you did
(30:46):
your normal thing.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah. I woke up at one o'clock and I checked
the phone. I said, well, I.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Wonder how the Beef's game ended up. I want to
see how the Wolves game ended up, and how the
World Series ended up. And I checked all three and
I checked World Series last, and it said the game
was still being played. It was in the seventeen. Then
I said no, and I turned it on. I watched
last evening and a half I miss.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I said to myself, you know, you try to convince yourself.
I'm going to stay up for one more inning.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Fourteenth and the fifteenth and the sixteenth. I went, both
teams having chances. I said, seventeenth inning, that's it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm out. It's one fifteen in the morning. What that means.
It's like two fifteen in Toronto.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
All those people are up and then they get their
hearts crushed last night, but it was only again, it's
game three.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
How do you recover from that? Freeman hits the home run.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Both teams had went through every picture they had left
on their staff. Basically, I think Roberts was saying of
the Dodgers, they had they were going to put an
everyday player in. They were trying to figure out who
was going to go in there. It had a little
bit of everything, including Otani who hit the two home runs,
right yep, you know it's on base nine times. They
just I want if they're going to just continue to
until they had they pitchers up.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
In the bullpen that were or that were supposed to
start the next game.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I mean, they didn't know what to.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Do about Clayton Kershaw getting in the game. That was
a moment. But I did see that, and that was
very cool because you know, his idol, Sandy Kofax at
eighty nine year old Sandy Kofax. They took a picture
of put it online because he's my hero, and he's
sitting in the stand still looking like a million bucks
at eighty nine and thinking back of us sixty years
ago when Sandy beat the Twins in Game seven in
the afternoon here when he could not throw a curveball.
(32:19):
We were just talking about injuries. Walter Alson wasn't going
to take him out even though he couldn't throw a
curveball because his arm was so bad. Yeah, he had
to throw a rely on his fastball the entire game
and he still shut the Twins out.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
You had mentioned Otani.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, no player ever had more extra base hits in
a World Series game than Otani did last night.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Two homers, two doubles in the first seven innings.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
No player in Major League, in any Major League game
ever reached more reached base more times than Otani did
when he got walked five straight times, following with four
hit barrage. And nobody ever picked up a baseball, and
nobody who ever picked up a baseball accomplished a fraction
of Otani's latest mind bloin feeds at the plate on
(33:00):
a night when they really needed to get to bed
because they had to pitch the next day.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
He's starting tonight. I mean, it's just mind boggling. Are
we watching the great really? Are the greatest player? I mean,
we hate They had that argument to.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Say it's it's a well, it's hard to argue it
just because not It's not as though he's like, he's
a really good offensive player. Oh he's an okay pitcher,
or he he's a really good pitcher and he's an
okay hitter. He's brilliant at both. It's it's it it's
it's hard to find, you know. The only comparison would be,
(33:36):
you know, when Ruth, you know, he was he was
a pitcher and then he But I.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I think he pitched that.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I don't think he well, I think after. I don't
think he pitched and then played in the field and
then pitched and played in the field. I think he
pitched early and then he turned into an everyday player instead.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
It's obviously different errors and everything that goes on, but
my goodness, I think Toronto. Toronto needed to find a
way to win the game last night. Emotionally, it's going
to be really tough to go out there tonight and
face Otani and try to come back from it. They've
done it now and again. Springer, I don't know what
happened he I saw the replay. He tweaked something in
his back. He had to go out of the game,
(34:14):
and he's a he's a catalyst.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
As we know.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
He hit the big three run homer uh to put
them in the World Series. But without him in the
lineup that Toronto Toronto Blue Jays lose a lot, a
lot of punch with him going. So hopefully you can
come back.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Someone sent a text message that says, common only the
Vikes and the Wolves come on some wild. There's not
much to say about the Wild right now. They're struggling,
said ten to be one, winning their last six or
seven is.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It something like that.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, they started off to and one, but now they've
only won three games in the first ten.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
A lot of goals, aren't.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
They think they I don't think they problem. I don't
think they won a game in six seven games.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Six seven games. There's only one game, yeah one winning
those six seven games.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And it's uh yeah, there's there's there's nothing pretty about it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
They're just.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
It's some of the time and they're playing teams they
weren't when they stay at home, they weren't that impressive,
I mean record wise early in the season. So it's
it's definitely a bad early season trend. When you're looking
at the number of goals are giving up with its goaltending,
lack of defense and and et cetera, et cetera. Zucarella
is coming back, right, isn't that soon?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
That's at least he was on the ice today. That's
that's encouraging everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
They can get.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Was originally scheduled for six to eight weeks and he's
at week five.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, but back on the ice today. Yeah, that's good, and.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
They need him because they're there are top six. Uh
you know with Johansen's had to play in the top six.
I know he scored a couple of goals recently, but
still I don't want him in your top six. You know,
Tarasenko has been pretty mad so far. They could use
the gorilla and he came right at night with that caprice.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
So lovely sports weekend we had, Yeah, it's about as
dreadful as it could get.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Well, the two football teams was, yeah, they were well,
Balloons won last night.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
What else you wanted? They want to playoff game? They did?
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I had no idea how the last night that they
played series TWITTER playoffs in soccer, I.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Didn't know that. I know, I didn't either.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
What for me, it's like it seems like the Loons
season never ends.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
It seems like.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
But they're always playing. There's some tournament, there's some championship,
there's something. Do they ever have time off or do
they play year round?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
It seems like they.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Play around starting March on the ground.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
So they Yeah, they're involved in some point. It's nice
to Deuce was into it.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
He watched it last night.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
He's well, he played soccer, so he he's a soccer
play by play guy.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
He's based on the voice of Lakeville South Girl Soccer.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Next year we'll be having a lot of soccer talkers.
World Cup is here, so, I mean, it's saw an
interview with Messi. He's gonna probably play one more time.
The world's best player right now continues to be so,
I mean, it'll be a big deal here in the country,
hosting it a number of sites next year.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Then you're Twins Club.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I ran into someone from the Twins last night at
the Target Center. I said, you guys ever got to
name a manager. You're gonna go to spring training and
have like just a designated person.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Well, if you remember, a lot of teams will just
have all have an opener. That's true. Maybe We'll just
have a different manager every.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Game, like a rotating captain, like the Wild they to
do in their first year.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Just let the first base coach manage the club with
the lineup.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I have an idea, Oh good, bring back Sonny Gray.
Have them be a player manager. That player manager. The
players respected them, they loved them, is what they did,
and he'd be on our staff.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I managine watching that game last night, or any of
these playoff games, and then you look at the Twins
roster and they end up they're playing the same sport.
I mean it's I mean, we traded away half a roster.
Well that's what I'm our media CA roster. Yeah, I
got Joe, Ryan and Lopez.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
And that's my favorite is people bragging about the prospect
rankings for the Twins, like, well, they traded away half
their team this year.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
They should be they should have some prospects that they
got to play and play well. Fun times.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
He liked this Twins club. There's not much to like.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Uh No, I mean, I can only talk about Walker
Drinkins so much, and you know that's running out of
things to say about that team, about that franchise, About ownership,
Baseball is gonna have probably an owne up with a
lockout next year.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
After next year, who knows.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So on Sunday is there going to be sinker sale
for the I'm not sailing too much, I don't think again.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I all to talk to me about JJ and that's fine.
It's you'll give us a little give the little juice
one thing to talk about, all right, It'll be he's back,
Let's keep him healthy, Let's see how he plays. How
the Vikings are going to stop Gibbs and Montgomery and
what what I mean, especially Gibbs is phenomenal. I I
(39:18):
so love watching a kid play and run. I don't
know how the Vikings are going to possibly stop him.
I can see the Lions are putting up forty on
that game. I don't know what Minnesota can possibly do
to slow them down. That's in Detroit. You know, Campbell's
not going to take any prisoners. He's hell bent on
doing what he has to do. And he said some
nice things about McCarthy because he had a good fourth
quarter against the Bears. What's he going to say, It's
(39:40):
going back to Michigan. That's about the only thing you
can say. McCarthy is but.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Not anything can happened, but it yeah, I mean sure
it's not.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
It doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Very promising for the Purples Current Sunday. We'll see how
it goes.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yep, you'll be back to all right, I will. We'll
see him that Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And then dews is really excited about spreads. When he's
so excited, he might have coming in studio. Oh yeah,
that's right. He had the chargers.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Not only dad, he also had he had two good.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I had one really good one and one really bad one.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, you had one really bad one for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Sure, I didn't looked at the score.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
You might be in last by the time we get
to Thursday at Rosie very well.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
I had one really good one. It picked up a
lot of points on I don't remember who that is.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
We'll see you tomorrow at too.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I'll be here, Tanny.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
He was well. We enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
But we just stick around. Take a j G there
next her on the fan. All right, I got good night,
good night missus Calabash.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
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