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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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Speaker 4 (00:29):
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your quick response to a text message here.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I always feel like I'm pretty good at expressing myself
and making things perfectly clear.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But apparently not.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Someone just said common, I played football. When you play,
if you don't play hard, you're more likely to get hurt. Well, yeah,
that's not what we're even talking about. What I'm saying
is if you're in the week, you have two weeks
left in the regular season, your team is out of it,
your you're seven and eight like the Vikings are. All
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I'm saying is most of those guys, if they were
given a choice, would say, let's just call it into
the season. If you said you don't need to play
these last two weeks, yeah, I guarantee you MOLTI would
say it's it's it's a because of what he's saying, though,
because you there are gonna be guys that are gonna
be playing in that game and are gonna after one
of those games, there will be at least a half
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a dozen players in this league that will have to
undergo major knee surgery to an anterior cruciatede ligament or
an interior cruciate or a midterior cruciate. And I'm not
ripping them. I'm just saying, most guys at this stage
is in. If your game is if you're not playing right,
the most guys would would rather just take the last
two weeks.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Oh well, you look at Brian O'Neil's a perfect example.
He played through a lot of discomfort pain whatever he
was playing through knee ankle last week, and I'm sure
he's gonna strap it up again and play this week.
I think, as I mentioned in our brief conversation, I
think because there's so many guys, they're not concerned about
the record, they don't really mean that you're saying, because
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they don't care if the Viking's finishing.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You know why what you're saying that they're playing for
tape and for this and that. Yeah, I'm just saying,
take all that out.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I'm just saying, if you went up to any NFL
player and said, would you like to have the last
two weeks off, You're not You're not playing for anything.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Most of them say, God, yeah, I would.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
That wouldn't make them bad, That doesn't make them bad people. No,
And I think NHL, NBA, MLB, any of them well.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
And I think a lot of it is traced to
the fact that the there's nothing to play for. If
you look at the fact that, as a perfect example,
we know Mahomes is done, the Kansas City Chiefs still have,
you know, on paper, a very good football team. They're
thirteen point underdogs against Denver at home. Just think about that. Uh,
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with Denver having an opportunity to do a lot of
damage in Denver's healthy that got bo Nixt to quarterback.
It shows how important that position is. But I don't
you know, I don't know if Travis Kelsey's gonna sit
there and go, man, I'm going to lay it all
the line.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know exactly he may.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
You know, the way the subtle ways that those sometimes
those things materialize is that you know, you might be
getting sandwiched over the middle on a pass play and
all of a sudden, you get Alliga at our arms
and you're going, I'm not you know, I'm not going
to make that extra effort because I'm going to get
my block knocked off here. Things that aren't necessarily that
are going to show up on tape. But deep down
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that individual nose, it's just you know, I again, last week,
they had really had the Vikings had nothing to play for,
and the.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Giants are a bad football team. We know that.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
But Brian Flora's defense was, you know, I've never seen
such well and then number one, ever seen such an
anemic passing attack. But that quarterback had zero chance against
against the Vikings throwing the football. I would think the Vikings,
and I know Dan Campbell already talked about it was
our worst, our worst performance of the year against the Vikings.
And Detroit does have in theory something to play for
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right now, and they were embarrassed at home by Minnesota
and they've embarrassed and they're they're looking at their chops
right now. This is a hugely disappointing situation that they're
potentially walking into right now. I expect the trite because
Dan Campbell threw a chair. I guess walking into the
locker room after the Pittsburgh game last week, and you
know they think he's Bobby Knight. Yeah, well that would
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have been during the game. You know, the Trit's got
a lot to play for Vikings, don't Well, I mean
they have they have to do they I mean, they
have to pretend they're not out of it. No, So
I mean, and this.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Is you have just as good a chance of making
the playoffs as they do. But yeah, they have a
slightly better chance.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, well they do. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And I think that Viking's playing at home and the
fans it's it's Christmas afternoon. I mean, it's you know,
I mean, I think people are going to go out
there and try to put on a good show. And
justin Jefferson, I'll put on a good show. But I
know what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Do people don't hear what I'm saying? Would rather I
think most of the guys would just say, if you're
Brian O'Neill said, he went out and played with a
bad foot. He's had every appendage damage so far. Now
he's got to go out there and block again. And
it's like, I'm sure if he's a god, Yeah, I'd
love to take he won't. He'll go play and everything
he's got. I'm just saying, yeah, I think it's just
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a simple comment. I like, I just basically insulted the
Queen of England.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I think there's just because the nature of the business
of the NFL right now. You look at a guy
like Jalen Redman, who's arguably been their best defensive tackle
he's playing for. You know, it sounds like if he
has a mediocre performance, the Vikings aren't going to look
at his body of work and go I don't want
to bring him back. He's going to get rewarded. I
mean big time. I think Eric Wilson is making it
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really tough on the Vikings. These players just want to
they're showcasing themselves, and they're showcasing if not the team
they're playing for, changing uniforms and playing for another team.
So that's why I think, you know, yes, I know
what you're saying the coach.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
The coach said this isn't at the beginning of you
see here what he said, the beginning of your cards
just short week.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's a fast opportunity.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He's got the lines chaos Tenneby. Here's what I'm going
to say to you, it's not a short week for you.
It's a fast opportunity. In other words, Tennant doesn't have
a short list of marketable job skills. He has a
long list of growth opportunities. O kay, Larry Mondela guy,
that's pretty good line, that's pretty good work for doesn't
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have a short list of marketable job skills.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
He has a long list of growth opportunities. Good. Yeah,
that's it. That's the coach actually went with that.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Yeah, I know, just yes' human nature when they go
to the game. They got the Galla horn, they got
you know, Snoop Dogg singing at halftime, they got the
white out. You know, people get wound up. It's Christmas afternoon.
I don't think if people that they lose this game
to Detroit, people are going to be walking out of
there like well, like Lion fans were last last week.
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They were dev stated losing the game. The way they
did that was shocking. None of that's going to happen
this week, even if it's a close game for Viking
fans and they're just gonna go hopefully it's gonna be
a good game and we'll see h An entertaining afternoon
of football and on Christmas afternoon and go home and
open up your presence or continue to do whichever you're doing,
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whichever your holiday customs are.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
You know, you mentioned that Danny Campbell through a chair,
which defensive back was that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
For the life, that's cheap.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I mean if you watch, if you watch the lines
or defense, I have like looks like chairs.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
It looks like chairs.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
So McCarthy hairline fracture coach downplayed it. Said, it's not
much more than a bone bruise. But he can't grip
the football.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's kind of a big deal. He's out.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well, that's what do is On the play where he
fumbled the ball, I said, to do is I go?
It looked like it just popped out of his hands
and he said, no, I think that maybe the defensive
player hit him. And I said, I don't think so.
And now that we've heard what happened with his hand,
it wasn't again play knocked out it. No, but not
that I'm not talking about how what it was injured.
I'm just saying he didn't get it noted he was
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trying to grip the football and it was so painful
that it just squeezed out of his hands. I think
I don't think that was knocked out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
By no, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
And you saw his reaction of the sidelines when the
trainer you know, you know, heinked at the you know,
a couple of fingers or whatever they were trying to do,
and he just winced. I mean, it was very painful
and so not an unexpected result. But it's again, it's
one more injury, and it's just you know, it's it's
just going to be. I don't think it's going to
change the plans of what the Vikings are going to
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do with McCarthy. Again, as I mentioned at the outset,
when you start thinking about what kind of quarterback they
want to bring in next year, and you're looking around, going, man,
look at the scrap heap right now. Look at some
of these teams and what they're playing with. There's a
mac Jones out there, and there's there's players out there.
I mean, the Packers at least have a competent backup
in Milake. Willis for now, Yeah, for now, but I
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mean yes, but for now, it might be teams that go,
let's give this guy a second look at.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
This well, I know it.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I mean, including you're soon to be a big game
world champion, Minnesota Vikings would be nice to marry a
camp Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, I see the Mariotas of the world.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
There's a lot of these guys that have been recycled
through a lot of teams, and there's a lot of
young guys that are unproven and and now you look
at the rosters. I couldn't even name them. I was
talking about taking New Orleans and spread swing. I can't
remember the guy's name, the kid's name, but he's one
of two games in a row. But yeah, I don't know.
But it's yeah, I mean that's it's Uh, it just
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shows you. I mean, you can't think of another sport
where there's more a position that's more important than the
starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Tenneby seeing what's happened with the Vikings quarterback situation, are
you willing to reconsider my five running backs? Uh? Love
that it might not be a bad idea right now,
Well it is. It's it is just concerning because we
as we talked about yesterday, you know, it's like this
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is his second year in the league. Now we know
he missed av Blash, but it's a second year and
he's played eight and a half games and it's been
four different injuries.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
The first one was the knee, that it.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Was the ankle, I believe in concussion, and now hairline fracture.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And it could just be.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Dumb luck, you know, bad luck, you know, like you know,
a Buston had a number of injuries. It seemed like
he was always injurying something and then he finally had
He's had two healthy years and last year was really good.
But that doesn't help you at the quarterback. In baseball,
at least it's a longer season. You can be out
for ten games, twelve, twenty and you still got one
forty left.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Right, and you know in the center fielder.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
While an outfielder and a good hitter can be obviously
instrumental to a club, you still can pick up slack.
You're missing your starting quarterback unless you got a Willis
who can and he has to be able to do
that every week. It's hard to get by with a
quarterback that it's like you don't know if he's going
to play on especially he's playing less than he's playing.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
It's a tough situation.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well, and especially he was making some strides. I mean,
it wasn't like he'd become a combination of Dan Marino
and oh Pat Mahomes the last couple of weeks. But
he'd been getting better, and now you have the setback,
and you think to yourself, Okay, we've seen a lot
of players. Is this going to be a forgotten sort
of asterisk to his long career or is it going
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to be the start of something that's going to hamper
him for quite a while. He's twenty two, we know that.
And the Vikings are been dying to get a franchise quarterback,
and I don't think this is going to change their plans,
but it has to change the kind of quality of
a backup you bring in. I mean, you just can't
have all due respect to Max Brosburg, and I know,
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I think we all root for someone like that. That's
a great story, and he's he's showing some moxie and
got it, but he's not going to be you know,
he's not your long time answer in any stretch of
the imagination. So I'll either bring in another, you know,
wily veteran who's been around the block a few times.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It can the case.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Keenems of the world will give you that instant maybe
offense or make a trade and bring someone else in.
It's Cracy's got plenty on his plate this offseason. But
unward and upward, Dylan McCarthy will be the guy next
to August from they open up when they're in training
camp in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
We'll take a break, we'll come back with more.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
We have two more segments to go here on the
Common Man Program with Common Tend to Be and Mark
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In the stocking joke, there's somewhere. I'm gonna leave that
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Speaker 3 (15:02):
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Speaker 4 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:15):
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Speaker 3 (15:16):
Here was an email that I received to comment at
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Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yesterday morning and reads us follows, how fun would it
be to see the Steelers versus the.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Seahawks in the Big Game this year? Two quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
The Vikings gave up hope on I truly believe that
the Vikings would have signed Rogers. He would have at
least given us three extra wins. Bikes will probably be
in conversation for playoff hopes this year. They should have
signed Rogers to groom up the rookie quarterback for next year.
I'm sure there's not too many JJ McCarthy jerseys underneath
the Christmas trees this year for a kids gift. Another
Vikings grew up Merry christmasman boy. You can make the
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argument we have well, we've debated it forever about you.
They have signed Sam Donald at that one hundred million
kind of con three thirty five million dollars a year.
Should they have tried to coach Dandy down, Say Danny,
you're gonna get every chance to win the starting job.
I know you want to leave because you think we're
giving it to JJ. You're gonna have every opportunity to
win it. Or apparently there was a conversation between Aaron.
I think maybe it was just an obligatory. Was one
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nice guy, you know they have a relationship, and maybe
it was just like, well, he's a legend, I owe
him at least to sit and talk with him and
listen to what he has to say and say we're
going in another direction. That's why I think probably happened
in that because there's no denying they did talk. They've
said it. They decided to go with McCarthy. Now that
we've seen what McCarthy's done.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I know you were all in on.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
McCarthy, and I think you know to the certain extent,
I guess I am. I mean, I've never been not
in on McCarthy. It was like, I just wasn't sure
when you've built to win, Like that's why I was
for either signing Donald or Rodgers, and the Rogers one
I was really intriguing.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It is it would have been, but I think that
again the selling point. And we were watching Aaron Rodgers
play every week with Pittsburgh. I mean, he's not at
the at his age she says, I want to come
in and tutor some young quarterback at this point, and
he's getting his playing time. He's playing for one of
the most successful coaches in the history of the NFL
in terms of you know, this longevity, not having a
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losing season, and a legacy that the Pittsburgh Steelers have
had going back to Art Rooney. But I mean, had
he come here, I mean, ay Rodger, I would not
have been real happy. All of a sudden, Well, JJ,
McCarthy's healthy again and we got to take a look
at this kid. So what's your baseball cap mind go
back to the sideline.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Well, no, but I don't if they had signed Rogers,
I don't think they would have done that, or.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Would That's what I'm saying. The Vikings were not trying
to do that, so that it's kind of a moot point.
I mean, it just it just is. I mean, we
could have those discussions about if they'd signed Rogers, if
they had done dark they signed, they drafted JJ McCarthy
to get him to be their franchise quarterback down the road. Unfortunately,
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he got sidelined all of last year, which really really
hurt him in particular, and now he's playing ketchup and
he's unfortunately right when he looks like he's getting in
a bit of a rhythm and looking better and more
comfortable and gets another setback. But I don't think, you know,
those guys would That's where the whole discussion comes by
next year too common. It's like, is it a Sam
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Darnold type that would be willing to come here knowing
full well that McCarthy's going to be the starting quarterback
on day one? That's just that's just the way it's
going to be. Until he plays himself out of the league.
I mean, there's a Christian ponder type of thing. I
don't know what else to say. They're going to go
with them?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Are they? Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
What if they had a chance to get Joe Burrow type?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Oh, they have to mortgage so much. I mean, I
just don't see them giving up the kind of capital
but number one draft picks, and I just don't know
how they I.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Can't agree with you.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I just I just wonder if there are any scenarios
at all, or is it as far as you're concerned,
Maybe you know something.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
It's one percent JJ, I know things out the fact.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I'm just wonder if there is any other scenario which
they go, you know what, we like the kid, but
you know, I think.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It's about how they approach using the backup role. I mean, again,
we just talked about looking at some of these rosters
and who's playing right now and then how they're the
fortunes of those teams just get derailed if your starting
quarterback gets hurt. And you know, we've seen the Vikings
have It's Sam Bradford, We've seen it, you know, going
back to Teddy Bridgewater, we've had they've had success. Case
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Keenum led them. You know, the NFC Championship game. You
know they've had those moments. Is that the type of
quarterback if you can get that type of who is
he to identify, to bring him in to be not
just a caretaker, but to be a guy who's capable
of stepping in and winning. Not many of those guys around.
There's certainly not many that teams are willing to let
go of unless less are free agents. And then you
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got to pay, you know, a pretty nice dollar amount
to get them on your roster.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's a it's a tough catch. Twenty two.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, So they play out the string their home to
Detroit and Green Bay and then you know, Tenneby and
I were talking yesterday too, and you weren't here, and
we'll probably get into the well, we will get into
it in ensuing weeks. But Alec Lewis wrote a nice
piece for The Athletic about, well, let's just jump ahead
a little bit and once we get to the offseason.
One of the needs that Viker is gonna have to address,
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and I mean it, the list is long when you
think about it, because they have a number of players
that they've spent a lot of money on that you
can save a ton of money on if you cut
him out right, for instance, with Hockinson, they'll probably end
up trying to renegotiate. But if he plays, I think
he would be the second twelve million dollars goes to him.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
No, that's just not going to fly.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And then there was I think it was twenty one Yeah,
think it is twenty one million.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
It's like, you can't pay him that kind of money,
and you won't pay that kind of money.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And if he refused to renegotiate, which I don't think
he would, then you're just sorry, you're gone.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They cut him.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And there's a couple of other players on that that
that Lewis mentioned too that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
They're due big, big, big money.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yet they really haven't at least this past season laid to.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That would justify that kind of a paycheck.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And then you just have weaknesses like all teams do
you know, you need some depth on the on the
offensive line, you need some secondary help. Hitman's probably going
to retire and so you're gonna have to have a safety.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So there's a lot of decisions they have.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
What they have to do common is is go four
for four whatever on their drafting.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. Did you get them on
rookie contracts?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
These guys have got to not only and they for
once they have their they are allotment of draft picks
right now, and they can't swing and miss on really
any of them. It doesn't mean the guy all of
them are going to be starters, but they all have
to contribute. Yeah, because then you get you know, on
the cheap, cheaper rookie contracts.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And generally they're not as injury.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
They haven't gone through a whole, you know, laundry list
of injuries. And usually the best years in football seem
for most of.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
The guys seem to be that twenty four to twenty seven,
twenty eight, we got a lot of thirty issues.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
And some of those guys can last, especially at positions
that aren't as brutal as some of the others.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Look at the running back position and yeah, how valuable
that is. And Aaron Jones was a, I mean an
animal last week. I mean he really sucked up when
he saw Jordan Mason in the tent.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I got to get back out there. He played off
and he played well, Let's take a break, come back.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
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Program with Common, Tennabe and Mark rose in Here in
the Fan.
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Speaker 3 (23:00):
Thirteen fourteen pasted on Common. He's tend to be Mark
Rosen here.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Since we last talked, there were a number of high
profile football games that took place, including last Thursday's game.
And it's a bit dated now, but Seahawks rams terrific football,
especially if you like offense. You know, I'm not as
big an offensive guy. I think there was almost one
thousand yards passing, or at least, you know, a fifty
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nine hundred, but a game, and it looked like Donald
threw two terrible interceptions. He got baited into him, first
of all by defensive back through it right to him.
And then there was the one at the goal line
right in which he threw at the big dopey defensive lineman,
took a couple of steps back, picked off the pass.
It looked like Seattle was cooked. But then it was
a quick three it out and then the punt return
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that brought him to within a touchdown. They got three
two point conversions in that game, ended up winning an overtime,
and you know, for Donald and we talked about how
the Rams have kind of been his his Yeah, yeah,
the sunshine to Dracula, right, and and yet he found
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a way and he still had the bad throws, but
he found a way to pull it out late.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And I got to think for him. They asked him
after the game, the panel, you know, all about.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
That feels good to be but he did the old
you know, they're all the same and blah blah blah,
which you know, yeah, but I'm sure there had to
be some satisfaction because if you do lose that game,
I mean, that would have been people would have gone, God,
he had another poor performance because everybody's.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Saying, well, darnld cam't play in a big game.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
When there's a big game and the brightest lights are
on the game against Detroit last year, when when when
first place was on the line, end of the season,
the game against the Rams and the playoffs, he just
he had he threw four interceptions against the Rams earlier
this year, that should go a long way for him.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Well as entertaining as a game wasn't as successful as
it was at the end of the game. Though, that
same conversation common is going to come up when the
postseason begins because I'm much and we don't know how
it's going.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
To play out.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
But you they got three loaded teams and that that
between the Rams, Seattle and a hard charging San Francisco
forardy nine er team. I mean, Donald's gonna have to
prove it all over again and until you do it,
not thinking anything away from what happened against the Rams,
but again, it was a regular season game.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
You got to it was a big regular season the
playoff VA was a huge game national TV Thursday night.
I can't I'm not going to downplay that was a
brilliant performance by Donald in the fourth quarter and the
fourth quarter that's what yes, I mean that throw he
made overtime was like when I you got to tie
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the game, there's no there's no punt, there's no field
goal this so you drive down the field and he made.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Two or three right on the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, but the touchdown throw he made to send it
to overtime or was that the one there was one
to send it to overtime?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
You know what, there's simply was simply there's been so
many really good games lately it's hard to remember all
that that just happened over the weekend, and that that's
you know again, why the NFL the product and the
way it's going to lay out. However the playoff situation
goes with wild cards, et cetera. It's it's going to
be captivating TV based on what we've seen in the
last couple of weeks, in particular, because that's pretty wide open.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Then Saturday night, the Bears, their goose was cooked.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It was over.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It got to the point where Malik Willis came in
played terrific in the in the second half.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It got to the point where the Bears scored.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
They were down two scores, two tuddies with two minutes
to go in the game. They score to get to
within one and then they try the on side kick
and and will Hold Dobbs has the ball, he can't
hang on to it.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah, they said, he let the ball play him instead of,
you know, being aggressive and going to get the ball.
But yeah, it doesn't they really succeed. As we know
what the looked.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
He was scared to get hit. Yea, he looked away
from the ball before he got it.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Maybe the shouldn't have a guy up there. He's got
a concussion helmet on.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
And then and then they win the game in overtime.
And that was, you know, the one thing a lot
of the players were saying. And I I saw it.
Even rit Rat rode up this way in the UH
in the UH.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And it's fun.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
We'd like to romanticize these games and the and and
and you know, teams you know come you know, that's
not their fifth come from behind victory. Disserness and we're
hearing this. It's the biggest thing the Bears have going
for themselves is the belief in themselves.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It's like, well, I want to throw up. It's like
if if.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Josh Dobbs, I mean that's that the Bears belief in
winning that game didn't force off Josh jobs.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I can to make just.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, it's it's just I'm sorry that that had nothing
to do with it. But people want to try to
make things larger than life. I like the Bears, though,
coming from behind, no matter how it happens. That's not
their fault that he fumbled body. I don't think it
has anything to do with belief. It's just I do
think the coach makes a big difference. He's brought in
a new attitude. He has made Caleb Williams a better quarterback.
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Caleb Williams looked lost in his rookie year. He wasn't
very now I know in the first half as numbers
were petetional. He wasn't very good in the first half either.
But Green Bay's got a really good team. That's a
good defensive team. That's two teams playing again a lot
at steak and playing a really tough defensive footback.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That's why I like that game better than the Ram
Seattle game. I like defense and that dame. The game was.
It was so much fun, especially when you.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Don't have a you know, I didn't have a you know,
a dog and it was a dog in the hunter
of course, in the race whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
But that that Bears team and again they're they're they're
not a finished product and they're not perfect, but they're
a lot of fun to watch you're a Bears fan.
They're doing the stuff that Detroit used to do when
Detroit was making that build up the last couple of
years starting to play like that. Because then you saw
what happened on on on Sunday afternoon with Detroit. Oh yeah,
they they gave up two forty five yard touchdown on
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a forty five yard pass.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Their offense defense again is decimated.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yet and they look like they were done and they
got into a position. This is a game they would
have won last year or the year before every time.
First in goal from the one yard line with twenty
two seconds to.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Go in the game.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
That's and then all of a sudden, then touchdown passed
to Monross Saint Brown.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Tuslaws called for I was setting a pick. Then they have.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
An offside penalty I think with the center, the third
string center flinches. Then tes Law has a catch. He's
got it in the end zone right and he drops it.
And then of course we saw the pass interference penalty
on And here's the.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Other thing in that play.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
They actually ruled that when a Monross Saint Brown caught
it at just before the goal line and he was
pushed back and he flipped it to to to Golf
and Golf ran it in. They said, had there not
been a penalty, that would have been a touch I'm
like forward progress to No.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I'm a Lions fan, right, If.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Let's say the penalty wouldn't have happened, and I'm a Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Fan, I would have been irate. I'd have been what
do you mean? I mean?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
He hes Ford broads to me had been stopped, there
was like six seven seconds had gone by. But again, Lions,
it's it's it's I put in that category of only
the Lions. Those are the kind of losses. I don't
know if you saw the video, but only the Lion fans.
And then the absolute mind boggling interpretation by the official
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who first and that's why all the Lion fans thought touchdown,
because that's the first thing the ref said was it's
a touchdown, thinking, oh, Detroit just won the game, and
then he goes through the whole litany of reasons why
it wasn't. I saw this video that was shot in
the stands, a couple of different angles of Lion fans celebrating,
thinking when you hear the referego, it's a touchdown. They
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thought they had won the game, and then oops, upon
further review, no, it didn't It didn't count. So that
was another crazy ending and if you're on the wrong
side of that, you know your heart shattered at that
point and going, I can't I can't go through another
offseason like this. Yeah, and we've seen him, we've had him.
We've had them here, that's for sure. But entertaining what
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the NFL does.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So your Wolves club they beat. It took the coach getting.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Ejected to the game to get the team to get
to get the the energy to win. But they did
win the game. And then they went and now they
play and then they want another game, and now they're going.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
To play the next night.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
The nick minus a couple of their starters, including Jalen Brunson,
not playing tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, the Wolves are kind of quietly.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
They're nineteen and ten now and they're only you know,
a game behind the fourth seated Lakers and two and
a half behind Denver and San Antonio. And they're not
you know, they're still Like the other night, I knew
it was.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Going to happen.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
After the Oka c game, you know, they start messing
around with Milwaukee, and Milwaukee doesn't have the Greek Creek
playing and they're down by sixteen or something in the
first half, and here we go. So I would think
they've come out a little sharper to night. Mike Conley.
I think Jane McDaniel's out. Conley played well, you know,
I had not having played for quite a while. He was,
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He helped him a lot, and so you know, the
usual suspects, and they just have to keep uh, you know,
make more free throws and make more three pointers and
tighten up that defense a little bit. And it should
be a fun night tonight to be a target center.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Will you be there? I will. My son is in
town from l A. And so you'll be court side.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Then.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yeah, you know, it's kind of come full circle.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I was, well, I got invited a long time ago.
It's nice.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Guess also sitting next to me, hi Rod, he works
here at the station. It'll be Cury. Nope, nope, Milt
Sauce yep. Never met Charlie. He's going the game tonight,
So I'll be with.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Sauce. Charlie's number invited me. I can't answer to that.
I don't you wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You're right, I'd like to have a good vibe with them,
called him Chuck.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, well, anyway.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yeah, eighteen years ago, I took my Does that mean
park in the ram or do you get to park inside?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
No, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I park.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I parked my secret spot kind of bowed by first avenue.
I always park there, and then uh, if.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Charlie can get me court side seats and then still
and get me to park inside the arena by the players.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Parking, I get out real fast. And where I park,
I don't get I don't. There's nothing better than parking.
Have you ever parked inside? I did for they had
a boxing show there when they was Vanda versus.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
No, I was just a spectator. Oh no, I'm sorry,
I was ringing. No, I was a spectator for that one.
There was one I ring. I was the ring an
ounce before. It must have been the one of the
show box once and they let me park inside.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
And you just drive up to that little door right out.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I you just tap your horn and all of a sudden,
the door goes up and the guy goes kind of
helping you.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I've got access inside and you drive it.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
It's so nice back in those days, and that would
be the media entrance. You could always tell the the
quality of the Mihicles.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Mayam Paula looked quite a bit different than the who gotties.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And I was parked up against too. They noticed that
right away. Yea awful nice No, it's uh, that's pretty
sweet there. But now I park a few blocks away
and it's easy walk, it's easy to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
That's what I always like to do.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
So yeah, I mean I took my son up for
his eighteenth birthday to New York in the two thousand
and four and uh, that's when Sprett Well was cussing
out James Dole and every time he made a basket,
and it was you know, that's pretty well KG and
Cassell and they beat the Knicks that night and it
was memorable. And here we are just the coincidentally. Here
they are the next player once a year and it's
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they're back tonight. So my son could make it in
town for the holidays, and so it'll be special, it'll
be fun time.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Can you say a secret spot, Well, it's not a secret.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
It's an open parking lot, be by First Avenue, by
the by first Avenue, it's open lot. I just said, hey,
I go by park there, and I mean Jimmy Pete parks.
There are a lot too, I've seen him.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Don't valet park. No, it takes too long. Oh my god, no, no,
it takes way too long. Those guys were tired. You
got nothing but time.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
No, no, no, I want to when I I want
to get out of there when the game's over.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I want to go. Oh no, I don't valet park.
You don't go back to the locker room and hear
what they have to say.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
No, once in a while, third the playoffs, they did,
I'd go back to listen to Finch she had to say,
and the players. I wouldn't participate anymore, But I just
I like to hear what they have to say.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
So in the while playing home, aren't they hoping against Nashville? Yes,
because there'll be there. They're going to be on the
road for a long time because the.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Even is coming up. You've got a secret parking spot?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I got a parking spot?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Is it secret? Because Rosen is a secret. It's not
a secret. I set up a secret.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Well, I it's you've got a secret spot that it's
not a secret. Okay, yeah, the uh the wild And
again it's it's only one game and we beat the
lanch previously right, right, But boy, did I read this right?
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Are we like the third best record in hockey at
the other two teams that are above us, all the
teams in the elevision and where there's that lanch is
it's still only two losses or is it three?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I think two regulations regulation losses.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
That's that's like I was.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Gonna say, that's that's Oklahoma City thunder Light for the
National Hockey League. It's going to be two clubs and
tend to be the way the playoffs work. Let's say
they finished one, two three like that. Let's say it
was would we have to play Dallas then?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
As of right now, yes, the wild to play the
Stars because the two three plays and then if you win,
you have to go through Colorado.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
That's just crazy. Yeah, to have that kind of record
and not have that's it? Not play Vegas or the one.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Thing that that that is is.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
It's it's different, but it's still results of the same
kind of matchups.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Who's going to win the NFC South this year? Does
it look like Carolina has the edge right now? But
Tampa Bay sells your shot?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Okay, what's Carolina's record right now?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yes, it's like you know, and I say every year,
I know, and that's the way it is because it's
you know, they do it by division winners.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
They don't do by total.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Carolina and eight and seven. Sorry, that's right, fifteen games,
they can go four left? Could they go eight nine
and win? Is it still possible because if Tampa, because
they're playing Tampa, I think last week some Yeah, so
nine and eighth.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
They got a home game.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I guess. Yeah, technically, I guess one of the teams
could be eight nine and win the division.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, there you go eight and nine, you could win
the division. So but that's just the way she goes.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
What about what are your thoughts in the goal for
basketball team?
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, it just seems like they've been out of side,
out of mind with not you know, not back in
Big ten schedule yet, so it's hard to they've they
played a few games and then they disappear and they
play Campbell's soup or something over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
So it's I don't really, I honest, sust And I
love the Campbell Camel's logo. I didn't see. Yeah, it
looks like.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
A cammel that's been touching that they hit him with
a candle prod in as much because he's running fast.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It's a great looking logo. I like their logo.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah, well, you know, it's been hard to kind of
keep up with, you know, everything else going on. And
they're playing non conference games against teams never really heard of.
It's not like you're playing an elite non conference team.
So you know, they just have to hopefully get just
get better. And they got a kind of a Skelton
crew over there, and they're fun to watch. I like
the brand of basketball that Nico medve is playing with
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this team. But you know they're going to just be
shorthanded a lot this year and maybe they'll surprise some
people at home, in particular.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Unless they've announced kickers. Now there's not a Viking on
the Pro Bowl Rush Rikers. I would think Rikers have
a great show.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
There's not a bike on the roster years thoughts.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Well, I can't argue with it. There really hasn't been
anyone that that stood out. I mean in the normal
usual suspects. I mean, are you offensive lineman or obviously
justin Jefferson. You can make an argument for a couple
of players, maybe defensively, but you know, Grenards had a
great year before he got hurt. But they're not going
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to beat out other, you know, teams that have more
high profile players. So, I mean, Ryker is probably the
one guy that the generally has a shot of being
the Pro Bowl kicker. They don't have the Pro Bowl anymore,
they don't really have the game anymore. They just have
a skills competition, right, I don't but still you get
his bonuses involved in everything else.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Why are people trying to get you going? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Buddy of mine literally met Rosan at the valet parking
at Target Center one time.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
One time, I did, and that's probably the last time
I did it. Yeah I did.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I'm not Rosen hasn't brought up the wild on KFE
and in twenty years third in the NHL, and Rosen
couldn't wait to shoehorn them into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
You've got to be kidding, what fraud? First of all,
that guy's full of whatever.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Yeah, I've watched more hockey games than that guy in
person than he's.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Done watch lifetime. That's correct, But that's okay. Yeah, they
always just want to get you going. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
And then here's this one this. I think this comes
from Kevin O'Connell. It's not a short week. It's a
fast opportunity of Rosen to get free court side Wolves
tickets again. Okay, Larry Mandela, what Larry mindella? Guy's been
taking cheap shots at you at Tennabe.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Had you not giving us that cheap shot, there may
have been a ticket available for him tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah then what yeah? Then what?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Change?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
LMG? Guy?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Just you know sits there?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah. It's really sad, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Good ol, Larry Mondela, Gay, he's something else. So you're
out until after the first of the year. Then is
that correct? Or was I'm gone? Tennebe is going to
be gone to? What are they doing when we're gone to?
Are we doing best ofs? Are we doing bowl games? Amination?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
We got a couple of best subs?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And then next so we have best subs on Christmas
Day for an hour and a half before the Bikings
game Friday, we have best of for an hour and
a half before the GOP for Bowl game.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
How do we find an hour and a half? Boy?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
You must I think Monday it's Dave sinecon Okay, Tuesday,
Kevin faalness all right, Wednesday. I think it's like a
hodgepodge of because there's.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
An after in Wild Game.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Okay, so there's like a Viking show, a Wild Weekly,
and then the Wild Game Thursday. Just best of the Friday.
I think it's Parker Fox. Wow, did you see Parker
on Big ten post game show the Go for a Game?
He's did a really nice job. Yeah I got I
don't know if that. I don't know how long he's
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been doing I don't pay close enough attention. Yeah, yeah,
he did a really nice job. I'll sent him a
little text message. He did a nice job. He's got he's.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Got hard at it. He's got it. That's how you
do it. And you know what, he didn't spend a
day in the minors. No, he's right here working. He didn't.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
He didn't go you know, he didn't go up to
No Alexander, Alexandria and whatever have there.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
He started right here in the Twin Cities. Man saying,
so you're going to be your.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Son's in town and yeah, we're gonna enjoy the holiday
and uh hang out. And you know we started last night,
so you know, don't get a chance to see him
all that often, and you know, it's like you get
your big your adults kid out of town. It's hard
and it's emotional when they're here because you don't see
him very often.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
So enjoy it when you can.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Text message from Mike and Simuy Park says hope all
of you guys have a great holiday season.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
And I say the same thing back at your Rosie.
I'll see you now. You guess I'll see you next year.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah, twenty twenty six, get it?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Thanks Mark, we'll see you soon. I have a nabigat Tenny.
Thanks for having me and I'll see you next year.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'll see you next year, great job.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
I'm back tomorrow twelve doing with bretton Blake Moore Order Talk.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
We might spin the wheel of topic.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
We don't know, oh boy now, but stick around Big
Ticket and Brettlake Boree there next right here on the fan.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Good night, good good night books, and good night missus Calabashi.
We're I'm a fraud.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I always feel like I'm pretty good at expressing myself
and making things perfectly clear.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But apparently not.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Someone just said common, I played football. When you play,
if you don't play hard, you're more likely to get hurt. Well, yeah,
that's not what we're even talking about. What I'm saying
is if you're in the week, you have two weeks
left in the regular season, your team is out of it,
your you're seven and eight like the Vikings are. All
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I'm saying is most of those guys, if they were
given a choice, would say, let's just call it into
the season. If you said you don't need to play
these last two weeks, yeah, I guarantee you MOLTI would
say it's it's it's a because of what he's saying, though,
because you there are gonna be guys that are gonna
be playing in that game and are gonna after one
of those games, there will be at least a half
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a dozen players in this league that will have to
undergo major knee surgery to an anterior cruciatede ligament or
an interior cruciate or a midterior cruciate. And I'm not
ripping them. I'm just saying, most guys at this stage
is in. If your game is if you're not playing right,
the most guys would would rather just take the last
two weeks.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Oh well, you look at Brian O'Neil's a perfect example.
He played through a lot of discomfort pain whatever he
was playing through knee ankle last week, and I'm sure
he's gonna strap it up again and play this week.
I think, as I mentioned in our brief conversation, I
think because there's so many guys, they're not concerned about
the record, they don't really mean that you're saying, because
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they don't care if the Viking's finishing.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You know why what you're saying that they're playing for
tape and for this and that. Yeah, I'm just saying,
take all that out.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I'm just saying, if you went up to any NFL
player and said, would you like to have the last
two weeks off, You're not You're not playing for anything.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Most of them say, God, yeah, I would.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
That wouldn't make them bad, That doesn't make them bad people. No,
And I think NHL, NBA, MLB, any of them well.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
And I think a lot of it is traced to
the fact that the there's nothing to play for. If
you look at the fact that, as a perfect example,
we know Mahomes is done, the Kansas City Chiefs still have,
you know, on paper, a very good football team. They're
thirteen point underdogs against Denver at home. Just think about that. Uh,
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with Denver having an opportunity to do a lot of
damage in Denver's healthy that got bo Nixt to quarterback.
It shows how important that position is. But I don't
you know, I don't know if Travis Kelsey's gonna sit
there and go, man, I'm going to lay it all
the line.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know exactly he may.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
You know, the way the subtle ways that those sometimes
those things materialize is that you know, you might be
getting sandwiched over the middle on a pass play and
all of a sudden, you get Alliga at our arms
and you're going, I'm not you know, I'm not going
to make that extra effort because I'm going to get
my block knocked off here. Things that aren't necessarily that
are going to show up on tape. But deep down
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that individual nose, it's just you know, I again, last week,
they had really had the Vikings had nothing to play for,
and the.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Giants are a bad football team. We know that.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
But Brian Flora's defense was, you know, I've never seen
such well and then number one, ever seen such an
anemic passing attack. But that quarterback had zero chance against
against the Vikings throwing the football. I would think the Vikings,
and I know Dan Campbell already talked about it was
our worst, our worst performance of the year against the Vikings.
And Detroit does have in theory something to play for
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right now, and they were embarrassed at home by Minnesota
and they've embarrassed and they're they're looking at their chops
right now. This is a hugely disappointing situation that they're
potentially walking into right now. I expect the trite because
Dan Campbell threw a chair. I guess walking into the
locker room after the Pittsburgh game last week, and you
know they think he's Bobby Knight. Yeah, well that would
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have been during the game. You know, the Trit's got
a lot to play for Vikings, don't Well, I mean
they have they have to do they I mean, they
have to pretend they're not out of it. No, So
I mean, and this.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Is you have just as good a chance of making
the playoffs as they do. But yeah, they have a
slightly better chance.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, well they do. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And I think that Viking's playing at home and the
fans it's it's Christmas afternoon. I mean, it's you know,
I mean, I think people are going to go out
there and try to put on a good show. And
justin Jefferson, I'll put on a good show. But I
know what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Do people don't hear what I'm saying? Would rather I
think most of the guys would just say, if you're
Brian O'Neill said, he went out and played with a
bad foot. He's had every appendage damage so far. Now
he's got to go out there and block again. And
it's like, I'm sure if he's a god, Yeah, I'd
love to take he won't. He'll go play and everything
he's got. I'm just saying, yeah, I think it's just
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a simple comment. I like, I just basically insulted the
Queen of England.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I think there's just because the nature of the business
of the NFL right now. You look at a guy
like Jalen Redman, who's arguably been their best defensive tackle
he's playing for. You know, it sounds like if he
has a mediocre performance, the Vikings aren't going to look
at his body of work and go I don't want
to bring him back. He's going to get rewarded. I
mean big time. I think Eric Wilson is making it
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really tough on the Vikings. These players just want to
they're showcasing themselves, and they're showcasing if not the team
they're playing for, changing uniforms and playing for another team.
So that's why I think, you know, yes, I know
what you're saying the coach.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
The coach said this isn't at the beginning of you
see here what he said, the beginning of your cards
just short week.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's a fast opportunity.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He's got the lines chaos Tenneby. Here's what I'm going
to say to you, it's not a short week for you.
It's a fast opportunity. In other words, Tennant doesn't have
a short list of marketable job skills. He has a
long list of growth opportunities. O kay, Larry Mondela guy,
that's pretty good line, that's pretty good work for doesn't
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have a short list of marketable job skills.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
He has a long list of growth opportunities. Good. Yeah,
that's it. That's the coach actually went with that.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Yeah, I know, just yes' human nature when they go
to the game. They got the Galla horn, they got
you know, Snoop Dogg singing at halftime, they got the
white out. You know, people get wound up. It's Christmas afternoon.
I don't think if people that they lose this game
to Detroit, people are going to be walking out of
there like well, like Lion fans were last last week.
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They were dev stated losing the game. The way they
did that was shocking. None of that's going to happen
this week, even if it's a close game for Viking
fans and they're just gonna go hopefully it's gonna be
a good game and we'll see h An entertaining afternoon
of football and on Christmas afternoon and go home and
open up your presence or continue to do whichever you're doing,
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whichever your holiday customs are.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
You know, you mentioned that Danny Campbell through a chair,
which defensive back was that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
For the life, that's cheap.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I mean if you watch, if you watch the lines
or defense, I have like looks like chairs.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
It looks like chairs.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
So McCarthy hairline fracture coach downplayed it. Said, it's not
much more than a bone bruise. But he can't grip
the football.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's kind of a big deal. He's out.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well, that's what do is On the play where he
fumbled the ball, I said, to do is I go?
It looked like it just popped out of his hands
and he said, no, I think that maybe the defensive
player hit him. And I said, I don't think so.
And now that we've heard what happened with his hand,
it wasn't again play knocked out it. No, but not
that I'm not talking about how what it was injured.
I'm just saying he didn't get it noted he was
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trying to grip the football and it was so painful
that it just squeezed out of his hands. I think
I don't think that was knocked out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
By no, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
And you saw his reaction of the sidelines when the
trainer you know, you know, heinked at the you know,
a couple of fingers or whatever they were trying to do,
and he just winced. I mean, it was very painful
and so not an unexpected result. But it's again, it's
one more injury, and it's just you know, it's it's
just going to be. I don't think it's going to
change the plans of what the Vikings are going to
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do with McCarthy. Again, as I mentioned at the outset,
when you start thinking about what kind of quarterback they
want to bring in next year, and you're looking around, going, man,
look at the scrap heap right now. Look at some
of these teams and what they're playing with. There's a
mac Jones out there, and there's there's players out there.
I mean, the Packers at least have a competent backup
in Milake. Willis for now, Yeah, for now, but I
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mean yes, but for now, it might be teams that go,
let's give this guy a second look at.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
This well, I know it.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I mean, including you're soon to be a big game
world champion, Minnesota Vikings would be nice to marry a
camp Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, I see the Mariotas of the world.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
There's a lot of these guys that have been recycled
through a lot of teams, and there's a lot of
young guys that are unproven and and now you look
at the rosters. I couldn't even name them. I was
talking about taking New Orleans and spread swing. I can't
remember the guy's name, the kid's name, but he's one
of two games in a row. But yeah, I don't know.
But it's yeah, I mean that's it's Uh, it just
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shows you. I mean, you can't think of another sport
where there's more a position that's more important than the
starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Tenneby seeing what's happened with the Vikings quarterback situation, are
you willing to reconsider my five running backs? Uh? Love
that it might not be a bad idea right now,
Well it is. It's it is just concerning because we
as we talked about yesterday, you know, it's like this
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is his second year in the league. Now we know
he missed av Blash, but it's a second year and
he's played eight and a half games and it's been
four different injuries.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
The first one was the knee, that it.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Was the ankle, I believe in concussion, and now hairline fracture.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And it could just be.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Dumb luck, you know, bad luck, you know, like you know,
a Buston had a number of injuries. It seemed like
he was always injurying something and then he finally had
He's had two healthy years and last year was really good.
But that doesn't help you at the quarterback. In baseball,
at least it's a longer season. You can be out
for ten games, twelve, twenty and you still got one
forty left.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Right, and you know in the center fielder.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
While an outfielder and a good hitter can be obviously
instrumental to a club, you still can pick up slack.
You're missing your starting quarterback unless you got a Willis
who can and he has to be able to do
that every week. It's hard to get by with a
quarterback that it's like you don't know if he's going
to play on especially he's playing less than he's playing.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
It's a tough situation.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well, and especially he was making some strides. I mean,
it wasn't like he'd become a combination of Dan Marino
and oh Pat Mahomes the last couple of weeks. But
he'd been getting better, and now you have the setback,
and you think to yourself, Okay, we've seen a lot
of players. Is this going to be a forgotten sort
of asterisk to his long career or is it going
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to be the start of something that's going to hamper
him for quite a while. He's twenty two, we know that.
And the Vikings are been dying to get a franchise quarterback,
and I don't think this is going to change their plans,
but it has to change the kind of quality of
a backup you bring in. I mean, you just can't
have all due respect to Max Brosburg, and I know,
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I think we all root for someone like that. That's
a great story, and he's he's showing some moxie and
got it, but he's not going to be you know,
he's not your long time answer in any stretch of
the imagination. So I'll either bring in another, you know,
wily veteran who's been around the block a few times.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It can the case.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Keenems of the world will give you that instant maybe
offense or make a trade and bring someone else in.
It's Cracy's got plenty on his plate this offseason. But
unward and upward, Dylan McCarthy will be the guy next
to August from they open up when they're in training
camp in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
We'll take a break, we'll come back with more.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
We have two more segments to go here on the
Common Man Program with Common Tend to Be and Mark
Rose and here in the Family.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
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Speaker 3 (13:15):
In the stocking joke, there's somewhere. I'm gonna leave that
to others. We've th side of the negatives. We've been
really good week. It's not a short week.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
It's the best opportunity. I just can't believe you got
to use that line. I have some great gift giving
ideas well. You do for the person who has nothing
else better to do. They've they've sorted their socks, watched
the paint draw dry, the asphalt has been delivered, flops,
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Speaker 3 (13:43):
Okay, you're the thirty first in January.
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Speaker 3 (13:50):
We'll look at this now. Yeah, they said. Those tickets are.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
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available at commonmanbook dot com. I've just taken my book website.
It's got boarded up and now we just sell tickets
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Speaker 3 (14:09):
So it worked.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
And then it's I think it's the twenty third of February.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'll double check on my calendar. I can't.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Matter of fact, I can actually double check on my
calendar right. That would not be because because tenneb gave
me an idea about it. It's the twenty first first
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Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's where you go for that.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Someone else said, uh texted this end. So if you
haven't purchased a gift for someone on your list yet,
can I suggest the vintage Mark Rosen decision Maker wheel.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You can spin the wheel.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Listen to Rosie talk about the seventies. Pronounce an aame wrong,
refer to but Grant mentioned what he had for dinner
last night, or recite I had a stolen take from
any national local sports person.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I always love that.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Happy Holidays, Rosie. See they just love the teaz Yes,
remove the interim label.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Guy loves you. Who's that from? Remove the interim label?
Remove the interim guy? Appreciate that thing? Yeah I do too.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Here was an email that I received to comment at
KFE dot com.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yesterday morning and reads us follows, how fun would it
be to see the Steelers versus the.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Seahawks in the Big Game this year? Two quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
The Vikings gave up hope on I truly believe that
the Vikings would have signed Rogers. He would have at
least given us three extra wins. Bikes will probably be
in conversation for playoff hopes this year. They should have
signed Rogers to groom up the rookie quarterback for next year.
I'm sure there's not too many JJ McCarthy jerseys underneath
the Christmas trees this year for a kids gift. Another
Vikings grew up Merry christmasman boy. You can make the
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argument we have well, we've debated it forever about you.
They have signed Sam Donald at that one hundred million
kind of con three thirty five million dollars a year.
Should they have tried to coach Dandy down, Say Danny,
you're gonna get every chance to win the starting job.
I know you want to leave because you think we're
giving it to JJ. You're gonna have every opportunity to
win it. Or apparently there was a conversation between Aaron.
I think maybe it was just an obligatory. Was one
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nice guy, you know they have a relationship, and maybe
it was just like, well, he's a legend, I owe
him at least to sit and talk with him and
listen to what he has to say and say we're
going in another direction. That's why I think probably happened
in that because there's no denying they did talk. They've
said it. They decided to go with McCarthy. Now that
we've seen what McCarthy's done.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I know you were all in on.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
McCarthy, and I think you know to the certain extent,
I guess I am. I mean, I've never been not
in on McCarthy. It was like, I just wasn't sure
when you've built to win, Like that's why I was
for either signing Donald or Rodgers, and the Rogers one
I was really intriguing.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It is it would have been, but I think that
again the selling point. And we were watching Aaron Rodgers
play every week with Pittsburgh. I mean, he's not at
the at his age she says, I want to come
in and tutor some young quarterback at this point, and
he's getting his playing time. He's playing for one of
the most successful coaches in the history of the NFL
in terms of you know, this longevity, not having a
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losing season, and a legacy that the Pittsburgh Steelers have
had going back to Art Rooney. But I mean, had
he come here, I mean, ay Rodger, I would not
have been real happy. All of a sudden, Well, JJ,
McCarthy's healthy again and we got to take a look
at this kid. So what's your baseball cap mind go
back to the sideline.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Well, no, but I don't if they had signed Rogers,
I don't think they would have done that, or.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Would That's what I'm saying. The Vikings were not trying
to do that, so that it's kind of a moot point.
I mean, it just it just is. I mean, we
could have those discussions about if they'd signed Rogers, if
they had done dark they signed, they drafted JJ McCarthy
to get him to be their franchise quarterback down the road. Unfortunately,
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he got sidelined all of last year, which really really
hurt him in particular, and now he's playing ketchup and
he's unfortunately right when he looks like he's getting in
a bit of a rhythm and looking better and more
comfortable and gets another setback. But I don't think, you know,
those guys would That's where the whole discussion comes by
next year too common. It's like, is it a Sam
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Darnold type that would be willing to come here knowing
full well that McCarthy's going to be the starting quarterback
on day one? That's just that's just the way it's
going to be. Until he plays himself out of the league.
I mean, there's a Christian ponder type of thing. I
don't know what else to say. They're going to go
with them?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Are they? Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
What if they had a chance to get Joe Burrow type?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Oh, they have to mortgage so much. I mean, I
just don't see them giving up the kind of capital
but number one draft picks, and I just don't know
how they I.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Can't agree with you.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I just I just wonder if there are any scenarios
at all, or is it as far as you're concerned,
Maybe you know something.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
It's one percent JJ, I know things out the fact.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I'm just wonder if there is any other scenario which
they go, you know what, we like the kid, but
you know, I think.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It's about how they approach using the backup role. I mean, again,
we just talked about looking at some of these rosters
and who's playing right now and then how they're the
fortunes of those teams just get derailed if your starting
quarterback gets hurt. And you know, we've seen the Vikings
have It's Sam Bradford, We've seen it, you know, going
back to Teddy Bridgewater, we've had they've had success. Case
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Keenum led them. You know, the NFC Championship game. You
know they've had those moments. Is that the type of
quarterback if you can get that type of who is
he to identify, to bring him in to be not
just a caretaker, but to be a guy who's capable
of stepping in and winning. Not many of those guys around.
There's certainly not many that teams are willing to let
go of unless less are free agents. And then you
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got to pay, you know, a pretty nice dollar amount
to get them on your roster.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's a it's a tough catch. Twenty two.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, So they play out the string their home to
Detroit and Green Bay and then you know, Tenneby and
I were talking yesterday too, and you weren't here, and
we'll probably get into the well, we will get into
it in ensuing weeks. But Alec Lewis wrote a nice
piece for The Athletic about, well, let's just jump ahead
a little bit and once we get to the offseason.
One of the needs that Viker is gonna have to address,
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and I mean it, the list is long when you
think about it, because they have a number of players
that they've spent a lot of money on that you
can save a ton of money on if you cut
him out right, for instance, with Hockinson, they'll probably end
up trying to renegotiate. But if he plays, I think
he would be the second twelve million dollars goes to him.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
No, that's just not going to fly.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And then there was I think it was twenty one Yeah,
think it is twenty one million.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
It's like, you can't pay him that kind of money,
and you won't pay that kind of money.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And if he refused to renegotiate, which I don't think
he would, then you're just sorry, you're gone.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They cut him.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And there's a couple of other players on that that
that Lewis mentioned too that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
They're due big, big, big money.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yet they really haven't at least this past season laid to.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That would justify that kind of a paycheck.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And then you just have weaknesses like all teams do
you know, you need some depth on the on the
offensive line, you need some secondary help. Hitman's probably going
to retire and so you're gonna have to have a safety.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So there's a lot of decisions they have.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
What they have to do common is is go four
for four whatever on their drafting.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. Did you get them on
rookie contracts?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
These guys have got to not only and they for
once they have their they are allotment of draft picks
right now, and they can't swing and miss on really
any of them. It doesn't mean the guy all of
them are going to be starters, but they all have
to contribute. Yeah, because then you get you know, on
the cheap, cheaper rookie contracts.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And generally they're not as injury.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
They haven't gone through a whole, you know, laundry list
of injuries. And usually the best years in football seem
for most of.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
The guys seem to be that twenty four to twenty seven,
twenty eight, we got a lot of thirty issues.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
And some of those guys can last, especially at positions
that aren't as brutal as some of the others.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Look at the running back position and yeah, how valuable
that is. And Aaron Jones was a, I mean an
animal last week. I mean he really sucked up when
he saw Jordan Mason in the tent.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I got to get back out there. He played off
and he played well, Let's take a break, come back.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
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Program with Common, Tennabe and Mark rose in Here in
the Fan.
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Speaker 3 (23:00):
Thirteen fourteen pasted on Common. He's tend to be Mark
Rosen here.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Since we last talked, there were a number of high
profile football games that took place, including last Thursday's game.
And it's a bit dated now, but Seahawks rams terrific football,
especially if you like offense. You know, I'm not as
big an offensive guy. I think there was almost one
thousand yards passing, or at least, you know, a fifty
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nine hundred, but a game, and it looked like Donald
threw two terrible interceptions. He got baited into him, first
of all by defensive back through it right to him.
And then there was the one at the goal line
right in which he threw at the big dopey defensive lineman,
took a couple of steps back, picked off the pass.
It looked like Seattle was cooked. But then it was
a quick three it out and then the punt return
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that brought him to within a touchdown. They got three
two point conversions in that game, ended up winning an overtime,
and you know, for Donald and we talked about how
the Rams have kind of been his his Yeah, yeah,
the sunshine to Dracula, right, and and yet he found
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a way and he still had the bad throws, but
he found a way to pull it out late.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And I got to think for him. They asked him
after the game, the panel, you know, all about.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
That feels good to be but he did the old
you know, they're all the same and blah blah blah,
which you know, yeah, but I'm sure there had to
be some satisfaction because if you do lose that game,
I mean, that would have been people would have gone, God,
he had another poor performance because everybody's.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Saying, well, darnld cam't play in a big game.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
When there's a big game and the brightest lights are
on the game against Detroit last year, when when when
first place was on the line, end of the season,
the game against the Rams and the playoffs, he just
he had he threw four interceptions against the Rams earlier
this year, that should go a long way for him.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Well as entertaining as a game wasn't as successful as
it was at the end of the game. Though, that
same conversation common is going to come up when the
postseason begins because I'm much and we don't know how
it's going.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
To play out.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
But you they got three loaded teams and that that
between the Rams, Seattle and a hard charging San Francisco
forardy nine er team. I mean, Donald's gonna have to
prove it all over again and until you do it,
not thinking anything away from what happened against the Rams,
but again, it was a regular season game.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
You got to it was a big regular season the
playoff VA was a huge game national TV Thursday night.
I can't I'm not going to downplay that was a
brilliant performance by Donald in the fourth quarter and the
fourth quarter that's what yes, I mean that throw he
made overtime was like when I you got to tie
(25:36):
the game, there's no there's no punt, there's no field
goal this so you drive down the field and he made.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Two or three right on the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, but the touchdown throw he made to send it
to overtime or was that the one there was one
to send it to overtime?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
You know what, there's simply was simply there's been so
many really good games lately it's hard to remember all
that that just happened over the weekend, and that that's
you know again, why the NFL the product and the
way it's going to lay out. However the playoff situation
goes with wild cards, et cetera. It's it's going to
be captivating TV based on what we've seen in the
last couple of weeks, in particular, because that's pretty wide open.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Then Saturday night, the Bears, their goose was cooked.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It was over.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It got to the point where Malik Willis came in
played terrific in the in the second half.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It got to the point where the Bears scored.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
They were down two scores, two tuddies with two minutes
to go in the game. They score to get to
within one and then they try the on side kick
and and will Hold Dobbs has the ball, he can't
hang on to it.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah, they said, he let the ball play him instead of,
you know, being aggressive and going to get the ball.
But yeah, it doesn't they really succeed. As we know
what the looked.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
He was scared to get hit. Yea, he looked away
from the ball before he got it.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Maybe the shouldn't have a guy up there. He's got
a concussion helmet on.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
And then and then they win the game in overtime.
And that was, you know, the one thing a lot
of the players were saying. And I I saw it.
Even rit Rat rode up this way in the UH
in the UH.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And it's fun.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
We'd like to romanticize these games and the and and
and you know, teams you know come you know, that's
not their fifth come from behind victory. Disserness and we're
hearing this. It's the biggest thing the Bears have going
for themselves is the belief in themselves.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It's like, well, I want to throw up. It's like
if if.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Josh Dobbs, I mean that's that the Bears belief in
winning that game didn't force off Josh jobs.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I can to make just.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, it's it's just I'm sorry that that had nothing
to do with it. But people want to try to
make things larger than life. I like the Bears, though,
coming from behind, no matter how it happens. That's not
their fault that he fumbled body. I don't think it
has anything to do with belief. It's just I do
think the coach makes a big difference. He's brought in
a new attitude. He has made Caleb Williams a better quarterback.
(28:00):
Caleb Williams looked lost in his rookie year. He wasn't
very now I know in the first half as numbers
were petetional. He wasn't very good in the first half either.
But Green Bay's got a really good team. That's a
good defensive team. That's two teams playing again a lot
at steak and playing a really tough defensive footback.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That's why I like that game better than the Ram
Seattle game. I like defense and that dame. The game was.
It was so much fun, especially when you.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Don't have a you know, I didn't have a you know,
a dog and it was a dog in the hunter
of course, in the race whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
But that that Bears team and again they're they're they're
not a finished product and they're not perfect, but they're
a lot of fun to watch you're a Bears fan.
They're doing the stuff that Detroit used to do when
Detroit was making that build up the last couple of
years starting to play like that. Because then you saw
what happened on on on Sunday afternoon with Detroit. Oh yeah,
they they gave up two forty five yard touchdown on
(28:53):
a forty five yard pass.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Their offense defense again is decimated.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yet and they look like they were done and they
got into a position. This is a game they would
have won last year or the year before every time.
First in goal from the one yard line with twenty
two seconds to.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Go in the game.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
That's and then all of a sudden, then touchdown passed
to Monross Saint Brown.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Tuslaws called for I was setting a pick. Then they have.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
An offside penalty I think with the center, the third
string center flinches. Then tes Law has a catch. He's
got it in the end zone right and he drops it.
And then of course we saw the pass interference penalty
on And here's the.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Other thing in that play.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
They actually ruled that when a Monross Saint Brown caught
it at just before the goal line and he was
pushed back and he flipped it to to to Golf
and Golf ran it in. They said, had there not
been a penalty, that would have been a touch I'm
like forward progress to No.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I'm a Lions fan, right, If.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Let's say the penalty wouldn't have happened, and I'm a Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Fan, I would have been irate. I'd have been what
do you mean? I mean?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
He hes Ford broads to me had been stopped, there
was like six seven seconds had gone by. But again, Lions,
it's it's it's I put in that category of only
the Lions. Those are the kind of losses. I don't
know if you saw the video, but only the Lion fans.
And then the absolute mind boggling interpretation by the official
(30:20):
who first and that's why all the Lion fans thought touchdown,
because that's the first thing the ref said was it's
a touchdown, thinking, oh, Detroit just won the game, and
then he goes through the whole litany of reasons why
it wasn't. I saw this video that was shot in
the stands, a couple of different angles of Lion fans celebrating,
thinking when you hear the referego, it's a touchdown. They
(30:41):
thought they had won the game, and then oops, upon
further review, no, it didn't It didn't count. So that
was another crazy ending and if you're on the wrong
side of that, you know your heart shattered at that
point and going, I can't I can't go through another
offseason like this. Yeah, and we've seen him, we've had him.
We've had them here, that's for sure. But entertaining what
(31:04):
the NFL does.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So your Wolves club they beat. It took the coach getting.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Ejected to the game to get the team to get
to get the the energy to win. But they did
win the game. And then they went and now they
play and then they want another game, and now they're going.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
To play the next night.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
The nick minus a couple of their starters, including Jalen Brunson,
not playing tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, the Wolves are kind of quietly.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
They're nineteen and ten now and they're only you know,
a game behind the fourth seated Lakers and two and
a half behind Denver and San Antonio. And they're not
you know, they're still Like the other night, I knew
it was.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Going to happen.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
After the Oka c game, you know, they start messing
around with Milwaukee, and Milwaukee doesn't have the Greek Creek
playing and they're down by sixteen or something in the
first half, and here we go. So I would think
they've come out a little sharper to night. Mike Conley.
I think Jane McDaniel's out. Conley played well, you know,
I had not having played for quite a while. He was,
(32:10):
He helped him a lot, and so you know, the
usual suspects, and they just have to keep uh, you know,
make more free throws and make more three pointers and
tighten up that defense a little bit. And it should
be a fun night tonight to be a target center.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Will you be there? I will. My son is in
town from l A. And so you'll be court side.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Then.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yeah, you know, it's kind of come full circle.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I was, well, I got invited a long time ago.
It's nice.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Guess also sitting next to me, hi Rod, he works
here at the station. It'll be Cury. Nope, nope, Milt
Sauce yep. Never met Charlie. He's going the game tonight,
So I'll be with.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Sauce. Charlie's number invited me. I can't answer to that.
I don't you wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You're right, I'd like to have a good vibe with them,
called him Chuck.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, well, anyway.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yeah, eighteen years ago, I took my Does that mean
park in the ram or do you get to park inside?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
No, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I park.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I parked my secret spot kind of bowed by first avenue.
I always park there, and then uh, if.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Charlie can get me court side seats and then still
and get me to park inside the arena by the players.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Parking, I get out real fast. And where I park,
I don't get I don't. There's nothing better than parking.
Have you ever parked inside? I did for they had
a boxing show there when they was Vanda versus.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
No, I was just a spectator. Oh no, I'm sorry,
I was ringing. No, I was a spectator for that one.
There was one I ring. I was the ring an
ounce before. It must have been the one of the
show box once and they let me park inside.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
And you just drive up to that little door right out.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I you just tap your horn and all of a sudden,
the door goes up and the guy goes kind of
helping you.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I've got access inside and you drive it.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
It's so nice back in those days, and that would
be the media entrance. You could always tell the the
quality of the Mihicles.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Mayam Paula looked quite a bit different than the who gotties.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And I was parked up against too. They noticed that
right away. Yea awful nice No, it's uh, that's pretty
sweet there. But now I park a few blocks away
and it's easy walk, it's easy to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
That's what I always like to do.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
So yeah, I mean I took my son up for
his eighteenth birthday to New York in the two thousand
and four and uh, that's when Sprett Well was cussing
out James Dole and every time he made a basket,
and it was you know, that's pretty well KG and
Cassell and they beat the Knicks that night and it
was memorable. And here we are just the coincidentally. Here
they are the next player once a year and it's
(34:49):
they're back tonight. So my son could make it in
town for the holidays, and so it'll be special, it'll
be fun time.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Can you say a secret spot, Well, it's not a secret.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
It's an open parking lot, be by First Avenue, by
the by first Avenue, it's open lot. I just said, hey,
I go by park there, and I mean Jimmy Pete parks.
There are a lot too, I've seen him.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Don't valet park. No, it takes too long. Oh my god, no, no,
it takes way too long. Those guys were tired. You
got nothing but time.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
No, no, no, I want to when I I want
to get out of there when the game's over.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I want to go. Oh no, I don't valet park.
You don't go back to the locker room and hear
what they have to say.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
No, once in a while, third the playoffs, they did,
I'd go back to listen to Finch she had to say,
and the players. I wouldn't participate anymore, But I just
I like to hear what they have to say.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
So in the while playing home, aren't they hoping against Nashville? Yes,
because there'll be there. They're going to be on the
road for a long time because the.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Even is coming up. You've got a secret parking spot?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I got a parking spot?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Is it secret? Because Rosen is a secret. It's not
a secret. I set up a secret.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Well, I it's you've got a secret spot that it's
not a secret. Okay, yeah, the uh the wild And
again it's it's only one game and we beat the
lanch previously right, right, But boy, did I read this right?
(36:20):
Are we like the third best record in hockey at
the other two teams that are above us, all the
teams in the elevision and where there's that lanch is
it's still only two losses or is it three?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I think two regulations regulation losses.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
That's that's like I was.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Gonna say, that's that's Oklahoma City thunder Light for the
National Hockey League. It's going to be two clubs and
tend to be the way the playoffs work. Let's say
they finished one, two three like that. Let's say it
was would we have to play Dallas then?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
As of right now, yes, the wild to play the
Stars because the two three plays and then if you win,
you have to go through Colorado.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
That's just crazy. Yeah, to have that kind of record
and not have that's it? Not play Vegas or the one.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Thing that that that is is.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
It's it's different, but it's still results of the same
kind of matchups.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Who's going to win the NFC South this year? Does
it look like Carolina has the edge right now? But
Tampa Bay sells your shot?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Okay, what's Carolina's record right now?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yes, it's like you know, and I say every year,
I know, and that's the way it is because it's
you know, they do it by division winners.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
They don't do by total.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Carolina and eight and seven. Sorry, that's right, fifteen games,
they can go four left? Could they go eight nine
and win? Is it still possible because if Tampa, because
they're playing Tampa, I think last week some Yeah, so
nine and eighth.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
They got a home game.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I guess. Yeah, technically, I guess one of the teams
could be eight nine and win the division.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, there you go eight and nine, you could win
the division. So but that's just the way she goes.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
What about what are your thoughts in the goal for
basketball team?
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, it just seems like they've been out of side,
out of mind with not you know, not back in
Big ten schedule yet, so it's hard to they've they
played a few games and then they disappear and they
play Campbell's soup or something over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
So it's I don't really, I honest, sust And I
love the Campbell Camel's logo. I didn't see. Yeah, it
looks like.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
A cammel that's been touching that they hit him with
a candle prod in as much because he's running fast.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It's a great looking logo. I like their logo.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah, well, you know, it's been hard to kind of
keep up with, you know, everything else going on. And
they're playing non conference games against teams never really heard of.
It's not like you're playing an elite non conference team.
So you know, they just have to hopefully get just
get better. And they got a kind of a Skelton
crew over there, and they're fun to watch. I like
the brand of basketball that Nico medve is playing with
(38:44):
this team. But you know they're going to just be
shorthanded a lot this year and maybe they'll surprise some
people at home, in particular.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Unless they've announced kickers. Now there's not a Viking on
the Pro Bowl Rush Rikers. I would think Rikers have
a great show.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
There's not a bike on the roster years thoughts.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Well, I can't argue with it. There really hasn't been
anyone that that stood out. I mean in the normal
usual suspects. I mean, are you offensive lineman or obviously
justin Jefferson. You can make an argument for a couple
of players, maybe defensively, but you know, Grenards had a
great year before he got hurt. But they're not going
(39:21):
to beat out other, you know, teams that have more
high profile players. So, I mean, Ryker is probably the
one guy that the generally has a shot of being
the Pro Bowl kicker. They don't have the Pro Bowl anymore,
they don't really have the game anymore. They just have
a skills competition, right, I don't but still you get
his bonuses involved in everything else.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Why are people trying to get you going? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Buddy of mine literally met Rosan at the valet parking
at Target Center one time.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
One time, I did, and that's probably the last time
I did it. Yeah I did.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I'm not Rosen hasn't brought up the wild on KFE
and in twenty years third in the NHL, and Rosen
couldn't wait to shoehorn them into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
You've got to be kidding, what fraud? First of all,
that guy's full of whatever.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Yeah, I've watched more hockey games than that guy in
person than he's.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Done watch lifetime. That's correct, But that's okay. Yeah, they
always just want to get you going. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
And then here's this one this. I think this comes
from Kevin O'Connell. It's not a short week. It's a
fast opportunity of Rosen to get free court side Wolves
tickets again. Okay, Larry Mandela, what Larry mindella? Guy's been
taking cheap shots at you at Tennabe.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Had you not giving us that cheap shot, there may
have been a ticket available for him tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah then what yeah? Then what?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Change?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
LMG? Guy?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Just you know sits there?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah. It's really sad, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Good ol, Larry Mondela, Gay, he's something else. So you're
out until after the first of the year. Then is
that correct? Or was I'm gone? Tennebe is going to
be gone to? What are they doing when we're gone to?
Are we doing best ofs? Are we doing bowl games? Amination?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
We got a couple of best subs?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And then next so we have best subs on Christmas
Day for an hour and a half before the Bikings
game Friday, we have best of for an hour and
a half before the GOP for Bowl game.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
How do we find an hour and a half? Boy?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
You must I think Monday it's Dave sinecon Okay, Tuesday,
Kevin faalness all right, Wednesday. I think it's like a
hodgepodge of because there's.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
An after in Wild Game.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Okay, so there's like a Viking show, a Wild Weekly,
and then the Wild Game Thursday. Just best of the Friday.
I think it's Parker Fox. Wow, did you see Parker
on Big ten post game show the Go for a Game?
He's did a really nice job. Yeah I got I
don't know if that. I don't know how long he's
(42:04):
been doing I don't pay close enough attention. Yeah, yeah,
he did a really nice job. I'll sent him a
little text message. He did a nice job. He's got he's.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Got hard at it. He's got it. That's how you
do it. And you know what, he didn't spend a
day in the minors. No, he's right here working. He didn't.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
He didn't go you know, he didn't go up to
No Alexander, Alexandria and whatever have there.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
He started right here in the Twin Cities. Man saying,
so you're going to be your.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Son's in town and yeah, we're gonna enjoy the holiday
and uh hang out. And you know we started last night,
so you know, don't get a chance to see him
all that often, and you know, it's like you get
your big your adults kid out of town. It's hard
and it's emotional when they're here because you don't see
him very often.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
So enjoy it when you can.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Text message from Mike and Simuy Park says hope all
of you guys have a great holiday season.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
And I say the same thing back at your Rosie.
I'll see you now. You guess I'll see you next year.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah, twenty twenty six, get it?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Thanks Mark, we'll see you soon. I have a nabigat Tenny.
Thanks for having me and I'll see you next year.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'll see you next year, great job.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
I'm back tomorrow twelve doing with bretton Blake Moore Order Talk.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
We might spin the wheel of topic.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
We don't know, oh boy now, but stick around Big
Ticket and Brettlake Boree there next right here on the fan.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Good night, good good night books, and good night missus Calabashi.
We're I'm a fraud.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.