December 19, 2025 • 41 mins
Common Man Hour 1 --Whiff of the Wild --Pohlad Family Changes
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just hold that Cord.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
School school SCOO all sco all school.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
So yeah, keep pushing, keep pushing on out hard to
get really excited for a game of the six and
eight team against the.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Two and twelve.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, but that's okay because playoff games, and say, oh wait,
we're not in playoff games. I am. I think I'm
in the bass minority. I don't want them to tank,
but I want him to lose three in a row
because we get a better draft and I want the
team to play well though, and I want McCarthy to
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play well.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Does that make sense what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I mean, and I'm not even asking you to accept
that and agree that that's what you want. But can
you understand my logic or do you think it's so illogical,
so preposterous and so oh we got to.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Got a new line.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We got to get Diego to do.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The common Man program Stupid on purpose with a purpose,
Sweatburg and I came up with that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's a good slogan for the show.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Don't you think the common man stupid on purpose with
a purpose?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You like it? Huh? Well, because we're stupid on purpose?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Back when Sweedburg used to be our boss. I'd be like,
I think that's really funny, really great. I don't have
to say I have to do the robot voice. Yeah
you should.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
In other words, you think I should send it to
rewrite and have him punch it up, because you get
my logic at all, ors it's just totally preposterous.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's kind of freeing not to have to do the
robot voice.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, it is kind of nice. It's just because I
don't think I have.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
To do it for my good friend Mitch Davis, who
took over as the uh whatever that long fancy titleist
senior or vice president of programming ont Minneapolis. Can you
understand my logic that I I mean, I want to
get like, the more games you lose, the higher your
draft pick. Yeah, that's I don't want them to be
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too and I want McCarthy to make progress. He can
still Matt Stafford threw for six hundred yards last night
and lost. He played brilliantly. Why can't McCarthy throw for
six hundred yep, five hundred year throw for two fifty
three hundred again in a losing Ever, what's the big deal?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Because here's the other thing I.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Heard the SoundBite in there, so I can tell you're
not with me on this, right?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Are you with me on this?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He said, like, we want to stack them in December
so we can fall back on that next year. Do
you believe that if they were to win some games
here in December that that benefits the team?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
See, I don't believe that. I think each year.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Is so individualistic as we know of a different team. Yeah,
we were fourteen and three last year in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
This year, let's.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Say we you know, we might be eight and nine
or nine and eight, right, And it's like, well, I
don't think. I don't think next year they're going to
be Week six and they're gonna be lined up and
the guy's gonna go, I remember December. It's in December
to remember. And then he thinks about the Lexus he
wants to buy.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But you see what I'm saying, I just don't think
that anything.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's like the contract, you know, it's like the distraction
is SO and So's contract. You know he's had a
stalemate like his Caprice offs contry.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know he was waiting for that contract. Is it
a distraction to the other player?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I don't think when bold he's skating down the right
side of the rink into the neutral zone. He's thinking, Man,
I wonder if Carell's gonna sign that dealer or not.
And then he loses the puck and then go the
other way and the other team scores. I don't believe
in any of that. I don't And I get, I mean,
you know, and the coach is saying what he has
to say, because that's what they have to say, But.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I don't believe that in any way.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He loves saying in any way, in any way, shape
or form. He says that a lot. That's one of
his favorites, and I like that one as well. I
don't think in any way, shape or form does it
really benefit the team next year?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, I understand the angle you're trying to go at. Okay,
my only count that would be I don't know how
much movement can be made, Oh, depending on winning or
losing with the draft picks, right, I mean, there's there's
six teams right now that are three to eleven, three
and eleven and worse. So like you ain't getting into
the top six right now. The Vikings are in the
eleven spot, right, so you're your three losses might get
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you to go from eleven to nine, right, Like, it's not,
You're not. And even even after that bottom six, you
still have three more teams that are four and ten Bengals, Saints, Commanders. Like,
what are the odds those any of those three teams
are jumping? The Vikings not gonna happen. So you're not
getting into the top nine. So at this point you're
sweating pick eleven as opposed to pick fourteen, which sure,
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I you know, I guess, Neil, would I rather have
the eleven pick them the fourteen pick? Of course, odds
are there's not going to be a huge difference in
a playmaker there where I'd still rather just you know,
see the progress within the team, specifically when you have
your young quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We might have to move up to get Pavilla, the
quarterback from Vanderbilt. The guy that said bleet the voters.
I just love that he just dialed that back. So
he back pedaled faster than Rosen because you know, a
handler said, ude, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The NFL teams don't want to draft up too.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, and he's probably not gonna he's kind of he's
I think he's shorter than I am, And you can
be short and play quarterback, but it's not ideal. Right,
the ideal quarterback now is what six three six, four, six,
five two twenty.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Those NFL linemen are taller than those college linemen.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, that's what they want. That's exactly right. So that's
what you want to see. Oh yeah, you've jam Moulin.
I want to win, then, I want to win. Now,
I guess I'm with you. Then I want to see
three wins in a row if we stack them.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know, if we didn't have your potential franchise young quarterback,
then I would pay right. If Nick Mullins is playing
right now, I'd be like, lose them all.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I still not that you're gonna get You're gonna learn
everything about JJ McCarthy in the next three weeks, but
there still might be a decision to be made this
off season of the quarterback. So I need to get
every little piece of information I can out of him
to determine whether we want to go that route again,
or if we want to bring in some competition, or
if we want to go in a different direction.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah. Well, I guess My argument though, was that he
plays well and makes productcause like like Stafford last night. Now,
I'm yes, I'm comparing Stafford McCarthy. I was just comparing.
You could have a brilliant game and still lose. Stafford
lost last night in ot he threw for How about
nukah poknku How many did you see his night? He won?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Offer?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Was it two twive to tutties?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
But that was I tell you what, you know a
little too much offense for me, right, I don't I
like defensive games, but that was highly entertaining and the
result couldn't have been better for me with the little
spread swing debate. Roseen and I remember going to take
Chicago and then he started doing that Sam Donald's having
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nightmares from what happened.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Wha, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now, I'm sure he was getting pretty haughty last night
in his own brain too, as that game.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Was going along.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Oh. We had a little back and forth which was fun. Well,
and I made the accusation yesterday. And I don't know
if you agree with this he wants I'm of the
opinion he does not want Donald's before more accidental looks
bad for Minnesota's.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I think that's a Minnesota fan mentality. That a lot
of them.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, absolutely, that's what that That's why he wanted, That's
why he was even in.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The Hughes trade. We will have the best player in
that trade. Yeah, I guarantee there's Minnesota sports fans cheering
against Zebu Yam moving forward, cheering against Marco Russ.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Right because they don't want to make over. And we
got the worst end of that deal. So last night
I texted Roseen and tweeted, well, I tweeted, I think
Sam Donald's having nightmares from the Rams playoff game last year, right,
and then he texted me back right, Well, then you
saw what happened. I mean, Donald was he was real.
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I mean he threw an interception at the goal line.
He threw two bad interceptions. He got tricked by by
the defensive coordinator of the players two different times. One
was almost returned for a tuddy, the other one stopped
them at.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The goal line.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But then he was brilliant late in the game, got
a two touchdown. Well they got the return for one. Anyway,
long story short, I was able to text Roseen.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
An tweet out.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I said, from nightmares to a dream come true, Old
Sam Donald had an arm ei e I and I
think that is big for this said. Now, they tried
to bait him into it last night. You know the
one thing that they do on on Netflix when they
do the games, they always they have their crew at
the stadium and there they bring up two players to
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interview right after the game, after they get a chance
to put the locker room. And it was Donald and
Nijigba last night, right, And they tried to get Donald
to do the old the ass good to get revenge,
I'd get the monkey off my back with the Rams,
and he wasn't having any part of it all.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He basically did that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
They're all a bit right, but I think I think
deep down that probably did me because that team, he
was one and four against the Rams, and he threw
four picks earlier this year. You saw what he did
last year in the play a playoff game against the Vikings.
So I think that was more of their offensive line.
But I think that that they said he couldn't win
a big game, that was the rap on him, right,
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And you could make that argument. Now last night wasn't
a playoff game, and it wasn't, but it was a
big game. Huge, It's a huge regular season game and
he was. He was shaky, but you know I could
tell people. I don't have to break here, but you know,
people way through those two interceptions as well, there's only
a hand. I mean, yeah, he's not the best quarterback
in pro football.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I who would say that. There's only you got Pat
Mahomes and Josh Allen and maybe one or two other guys,
and those are your top guys.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't even know if Joe Burrow's there anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm seen enough of Joe Burrow healthy to know how
Joe Burrow can play. So you have different Not everybody
can have Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen, so you have to.
That's why they tier quarterbacks when they do those power rankings.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And so he's pretty good to.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Have on your club. He was good last night, and
they win the game. We'll take a break, we'll talk
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I think we kind of covered that Vikings played the
Giants and the Metal Lands. This coming weekend, Sunday coverage
begins at ten be here for the Pooch kick at
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twelve noon. Two teams going nowhere except home at the
end of the season. Well, the Giants already at home.
They're not going to go anywhere else. They're in the
medal Lands. We'll have that game where we look for
progress from the from JJ McCarthy. Wild win again last
night Tennabee. It's like all they do is win. Yeah,
you know. I oftentimes during five to three four you'll
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have a question that starts with trend of mirage. This
is this is a trend. You can't say this is
a mirage. I mean, we know things can change in
a hurry. We've seen it with this Wild club this
year and last year. Both started exactly the opposite and
kind of ended the opposite, right, you know, Great Star
Art then faded away.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
This year we had a terrible start. Now we've come on.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But the trade I think obviously infused Hughes infuse some.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Enthusiasm with the club. Everybody's excited about it, I mean
and I think the players all handle it right.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You know, three guys were traded from your current roster,
and you're all teammates and your brothers, and you're all
for one and one for all, and you don't step
on the logo on the carpet in the middle of
the of the locker room, and you know, you don't
want to say, oh, yes, we got this guy's worth
three more week were so you know, you want to
say you're happy he's here, but you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You know, you do miss your guys.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But I think I think anybody would would are I
think you could make the argument and no one could
argue with you that the team's better with Hughes.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Though. Now last night one shot on goal, no no goals,
no assists. Did we really need them?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
They need Okay, well, especially with the amount of injuries
they have right now on that blue line alone, they're
without four defensemen. So Quinn Hughes had to pick up
the amount of minutes. You know, he typically he's a
twenty five minute a game night, twenty five minutes a
night kind of person, and he's had to play twenty
nine ish for you the last couple of games because
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they are just Dustmand right now. Brodein's out and Middleton's out,
and Bog's out and Damon Hunts out. So they're playing
your Carson Lambos made his NHL debut last night. It
seems like half their roster is the Iowa Wild right now.
And that's what makes us run even more impressive, is
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they're I could. I don't want to get two skate
rits like here, but it's the thought of what's going
to happen when this team, if they ever get fully healthy,
and how they're going to look. Right now, you have
Trenion on your second line and Tarasenko on your second
line and playing some guys in your bottom six that
should be in Iowa. Half your decour should be in Iowa.
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And all they do is continue to win. And after
seeing Quinn Hughes now for a stretch the last two games,
they've had a line of Caprice Off Bowldy, Eric Sineck together,
You're with and Tarasenko, right, yeah, I know, I'm just
talking about like the main five, right those three and
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then they put Quinn, Hughes and brock Favor on the
ice together, So all five of those guys your best
five players are on the ice together, they look unstoppable.
I mean, they don't spend a lick in their own zone.
They have the fuck in the And it's so weird
to say this as a Wild fan, like our high
end guyser as good as anyone's now, Okay, Like, I mean,
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if you took the top top three forwards and top
two defenseman on any given team in the National Hockey League,
we're right up there with any of them. And I've
never said that as a Minnesota Wild fan. And once
you get some health back and get some depth to
go along with it, that's just going to supplement even more.
And then the goaltending has been good again. I mean
we've all said was solid last night. It's hard not
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to be excited as a Wild fan now this. This
team's got a lot of potential this season.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
When the forwards regained their health. Do you split up,
You're off Trendon and Tarasenko. They've been have they not?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Ah, Man, it's hard to say. It's weird to say because.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Tarasenko is he's beating father time.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, you know, you're off in and Tarasenko combined for
three goals two games ago and then last night, they
had a beautiful goal on a three on two rush
just tic tac toe Tarasenko puts.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
In the net.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm not ready to keep those three together forever, but
the last couple of games have been very nice, and
what they've gotten ont of Tarasenko these last two games,
if they get that moving forward. But you know, this
is a team that once you get healthy, and I
don't think they're done before the trade deadline. I think
you are still going to try to add offense. I mean,
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your blue line's good and your goaltending is good. I
think you still want to add a little more offensive
punch average.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You might go.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You know, I don't know how many assets they have
to give anymore, because they've given up a lot of
assets the last couple of years for your check and
then Quinn hughes. But I when salar cap wise, they
should be fine at least for this season to still
be able to go out and get a big salary guy.
So I think they can still add because they're they're
proving they can contend for the Cup.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Someone sent a TEXTI.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Says Quinn said a career high for a time on
the ice. Last night, there was a career high for
him he had, really somebody said it was thirty two minutes?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Is that thirty two last night?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What somebody said? And that's a career high for him?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well, if I had couldn't use I throw I throw
him over the boards every other shift too.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Let me ask you this, See if you can answer
this question. Riddle me this.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You mentioned when our top five players are on where
basically nothing's going to stop us. Now they're star we
should should we just start calling them the starship line?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Let's do that?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
And they are a bunch of stars.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Well, they sing together when the starship line is on
the ice. If you're an if you're the opponent, let's
say you're the coach that to be the other club,
what do you do to try.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
To You know you can't shut them down, but what
do you do to slow them up? What do you do?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You put your best line against them? Do you rough
them up? Not necessarily cheap shop and try to get physical?
What can a team do in an effort to try to.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I don't mean, I don't mean to take the easy
way out on your question. It all depends on what
your personnel is on that team. Right, Clearly, you're putting
your best defensive defenseman out against them. If you are
a team right like the Wild can throw Jewel Eric
Sack out against If you're going up against Connor McDavid,
who's overrated, you throw Eric's neck over the boards.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He's your best checking center, right.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean you got you better have players that
are accustomed to playing in their own zone and aren't
going to panic in your own zone and aren't going
to turn the puck over when they get it.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm not sure if the parade will go over. I
we'll go from Saint Paul to Mineapolis. I think this
include both cities. But we want to be the beginning
of the parade or the end of the parade, because
the end of the parade will they'll end at Saint
Paul right at Grand Casino Arena.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I would think, so, so do you and I want.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
To be at the end of the parade or where
it begins, or somewhere in the middle beginning of the
middle of the end.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I think I want to be at the very end.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I think you'll be leading the bandwagon's way.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You'll be done, you know, That's how That's how I roll.
We'll take a break, We'll come back.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I Tom Poland takes over for Joe Poland. He had
a wide ranging, free flowing news conference the other day
when they announced that he would be taking over running
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the day to day operations of the team. He'd also
be the a liaison between Major League Baseball and the team,
taking over for Jim polad And. He also talked about
the limiteds but there was some there were some there
were some comments there that raised some interesting isitiones.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I want to dive into those. Ten to the other
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I've been waiting. I'm just so happy that it happened
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Kennesau State.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Already one to six.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Is anybody I wish they would show a shot of
the stands?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I guarantee it's not even a quarter fall, right, because.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I don't think there's enough people that live wherever Kennesaw
State or Western Michigan is located that could even fill
the stands.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And then there's just small little communities, college towns.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's basically just guys that were there on golf trips
in Myrtle Beach to go, oh, there's football game. Now,
we got nothing to do for the next couple of hours. Correct,
that's those are the only people that showed up.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, if they're if they even showed up, but that
would be it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It was announced a couple of days ago, I think
beginning of the week, Uh that the twins, the Minnesota
Twins finally announced to their limited part job.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Craig Leepold to the Wild bought in.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Then the Glick family and then another family said they
have like the three or four different A couple of
other smaller ones too. That have all bought a portion
of the team that the Twins did it to try
to they were like, they claimed to be five hundred
million dollars in debt and this was able. The money
that these new limiteds gave the pole Ads to purchase
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part of the club will pay down that debt. It's
also announced that Tom Polett, the older brother to Joe,
would be and I think Jim's son one of that
one one one of the track, but he's one of
the sons of the one of the Rob, Chip and Ernie,
the three the sons of Carl Polett and Tom is
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taking over. He's older brother to Joe. He succeeded his
brother as the family member overseeing the Twins organization and then,
pending Major League Baseball approval, he will replace his uncle
Jim as the franchisees control person to serve as the
primary lie. He's on a Major League Baseball so he's
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taken and putting a lot on his plate. What I
found interesting to I mean, I actually admire Tom for
this in the pole Ad family.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
It's been a hard It's been hard on our family,
this decision to make a transition within our family has
been extremely difficult. It's been hard on the relationship between
Joe and myself. It's been especially hard on my dad
and my two uncles. All Joe ever wanted was to
be part of this organization and to lead it and
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help this franchise win a world championship. Things change, we
have to make a decision as a family. He understands.
He has been graceful, kind and believes that whatever is
in the best interest of the organization is best.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's pretty forthcoming.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I mean they're basically saying they basically went to Joe
and said you're out. Yeah, it's not working, You're done.
It was hard on Joe. He wanted that job. He
loved that matter. I remember when they were when they
announced they were selling the team. I don't know if
it was right away he said this, but sometime during
the time when they first announced it to where they
got now where they decided not to sell the team,
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he said, yeah, we'd like to sell, but I want
to keep running it. This is what he wanted to do,
and they could have easily just said, ah, Joe didn't
want to do it anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I wanted to step back from it.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You know what, I'm saying to protect him because it's
I'm not saying necessarily it's embarrassing, but he was devoted.
You're not going to do it anymore after a short time,
after a very short period of time, and so I thought,
at least so if there is fourth coming there, hopefully
the organization now being led by Tom pole Ed will
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be as is open and honest.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
With the fans. As a matter of fact, he says that. Later,
he says, quote, we've got to do a better job.
We've got to do a better job.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Of telling fans where we're going, how we're going to
get there, and why we're doing the things we're doing.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I commit to that going forward.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So again he's he's promising committing to it. Complete transparency, communication, communication,
though there's some of it here though that I am.
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He goes on to say, we're in it for the
long haul, adding that the Major League Baseball approval process
led the delay before Wedness Day's a minority minority ownership
revealed Pull that family accumulated five hundred million. I'm reading
from a fisherp factory West side story. Pull that family
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accumulated five hundred million in debt, about a third of
the team's market value while running the Twins that swelled
over the past five years. The two biggest culprits and
declining revenues were ticket sales, particularly during the COVID effected
seasons from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, and they
lost their regional sports network TV deal which ended them
fifty four point eight million in twenty twenty three. Tom
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goes on to say, we have chosen for some time
now to continue to invest beyond with the revenue support.
People like to say we're not committed to investing in
this team. Five hundred million dollars of debt would tell
you exactly the opposite. That's how the debt got to
where it is. Well, did it or was it because
more of COVID, You know what I'm saying, It wasn't
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you know. I think that had more to do with
it than anything. They just the revenues weren't there. But
he says the sale process led to a lot of
self reflection among the family members about what needs to
change with how they run the organization. He says, it's
undeniable that we haven't won enough baseball games. The financial
health of the club has been put in jeopardy, and
we've got a fan base that has lost trust in
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us as owners and as a result is organization and
the direction is headed with the conclusion of the transaction,
now is the time to put new leadership in place
and a renewed sense of energy, renewed sense of focus,
a different level of accountability, and ultimately a clearer direction
on where we're taking this organization. Now. Of course, some
of you've heard the old cliche talk is cheap, so
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you can say all this, will see where it leads.
Because he does talk about.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Spending money.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
He says, we certainly are within reach of winning a
division title. He thinks right now they are within reach
of winning a division title. Will continue to look at
moves we can make that will help us accomplish that.
Then the question was asked in the piece by the
fish Rap, why not put more money towards the payroll
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to give the roster a better chance of winning in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Here's what he says.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I don't think the landscape what I see right now
that we should put a significant investment into the team
of adding fifty to sixty million dollars to the payroll.
But I don't think we're far off from that. He
plans to be an active owner, but noted he will
leave baseball decision making to team president Derek Faldy in
general manager Jeremy Zohle.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So what he's.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Saying is, if I, if I can interpret, this, doesn't
seem like it's too difficult. Well, they're they're willing to
spend more money. Again, they just don't think now is
the right time. But if you think you can compete
for a division title, which he just said, wouldn't that
be the time to invest. So that's what that's to me.
That's that doesn't make any sense. That's what to me,
there's a bit of a disconnect between me and what
he says. I liked everything else he was saying. I
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like being forthcoming and if they really, you know, if
what he said in these quotes i've read, if he
really means all that. But to me, I don't understand
that if you think you can compete for a division
title as it stands, then why wouldn't you buttress the
payroll with some extra money and add add some other players?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Right then? That seems like it would only make sense.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I think the competing for division title is one of
the those cliches you used because you want season ticket
holders to renew and you want to make sure you
have butts in the seats. But when you send as
many players away as it did last year, that's not
a one year turnaround, right. You're bringing in a bunch,
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You're bringing in a bunch of prospects in return. Those
guys aren't just going to be ready in twenty twenty
six to contribute at a major league level before.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
That's a two, three, four of you process.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Here's what Elsie said, and this kind of dovetails a
little bit with what I was talking about with the Vikings,
going back to you know when you decided after the
Sam Donald year you went fourteen and three.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
We know they lost to the kiddies.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Donald was bad, got clobbered by the Rams and the playoffs,
and Donald didn't play well.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
But I think more than anything, that had a lot
to do with the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But it says you're the Twins signaled the teams at
the end of November, after conversations with their ownership structure,
they plan to keep their all star our players. It's
the quote needle that we're trying to thread between field
and a competitive team next year while shifting to a
younger core of the roster. Paul Out goes on to say,
there was probably an argument to tear the whole thing down,
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get as much value as you can for our players,
and really put an emphasis on two years from now
or three years from now.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
On paper.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, maybe that makes sense, but you can't just look
at things on paper. We owe the fan base something,
we owe a veteran and star player something, We owe
this organization something, and that's something as hope. So they're
selling hope, as I've talked about many many times. That's
what all professional sports teams sell as at hope. You
hope they have a good draft, You hope they have
a good free agency, you have I hope they have
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a good oda, you hope they have good mini camps,
good pre season, blah blah blah. And then you change
it to baseball, hockey, basketball, whatever the case may be.
But you know, when he says we owe it to
our fan base, we owe our veteran and star player something.
And that's what I was talking about. Remember when we discussed, well,
you can say, you know we're going to play McCarthy
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and I'm gonna and we're he's going to just have
to learn as we go. But you have veteran players
on that team, including Justin Jefferson, who has taken this.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All very well, at least publicly.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
He's not made, he's not pouted, he's not complained, he
hasn't done the divas stuff. He hasn't asked out, and
I believe that's how he really feels. But that's what
we were talking about. When you know, and there are
people that when I would discuss that with me, they'd
just say, too bad for you. You know, you just tell
the players, too bad, you know, suck it up.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
This is what the organization is going to do, which
is true. The organization can do whatever they want.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But that's dangerous if you start looking at guys that
they're laying it online, guys in the trading room, guys
that are trying to play for extra contracts they want
to win, and all of a sudden, you know, hell, sorry,
our quarterback's been really bad. It's going to take you know,
it's gonna make at least a year, year and a half,
maybe two years for him to get to get any good.
You owe to the fan base, you owe to the organization,
you owe to the veteran players. So it's a delicate
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dance you're doing. I get that, and he's a admitting
to that right now. So we'll see where it goes.
I mean, I don't think I don't know anything about
Tom pull out other than what I read here.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Sure, but it does seem like this.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Is a move that need to be made because Joe
just wasn't getting it done when he did the old.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What did he say? What was it? The right sizing
the payroll?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Remember when when that quote came out, that's the one
that hung with him forever and it really made fans
bitter about right sizing the payroll.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Well, and then the other and you mentioned this one
before when they originally said they were going to sell
the team, and then the reports came out that he
would still like to run the Yeah, he'd like to
run the club even they're going to sell to somebody else.
I'm like, that's just the guy who doesn't he doesn't
get it.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And so.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Now what And to your point on Tom, you got
to follow through with everything where he's saying. But I
think at least what Tom appears to be recognizing is
is there's a huge disconnect between our organization in the
fans right now, the bigest, the biggest it's ever been,
and we need to do everything we can clean them
back up now. I also do think the fans are
so disconnected that I think other than spending money on players,
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I don't think they're ever going to believe in you again. Yeah,
and are the poloads going to be willing to do that?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
The only way without spending money on players if some
of these young guys come up right away and make
immediate impacts, because they did, I saw it again, I
don't know where I And again I have to take
the I have to take the people that I trust.
I have to take their word for when you because
I've read in several different places, I think both Fish Raps,
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the Athletic and other places that the Twins have been
rated as the second best, you know, as far as
accumulation of young talent.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Their minor league system is ranked number two right now
with prospects.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Well they should be with how many they trade exactly
and the ones they had before the trades, but the
people they acquired. So let's just and and again you
and I have had discussion. You can have ten highly
regarded prospects. How many of those ten, what percentage of
those will end up being superstar players?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Maybe one?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
How many will be just good quality players that will
be mainstays in the lineup for six seven years?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Maybe two more right? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
And how many of the pitchers? Maybe one guy? So
it and I don't know if those odds are you
could hit the jackpot. You could have ten guys and
eight of them are superstars and then you're in business.
So you're right unless they spend money or they bring
up five young guys this year and they're all get
off to great starts, and you're just doing the old Godwards.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
A young team, we're playing well, we got great guys.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
And then if they did what the Wild just did
by trading for Quinn Hughes, if they went out then
made a trade and said, because remember we waited for
that all the time when those teams were winning division
titles back in the in the odds.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
What they didn't do was when it came to trade deadline, they.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Rarely, they rarely tried to make the team better with
a major trade.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
They did, so they could have used to Bill garn
back then.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, they could have used a really big and you
know what, that still might not have worked. We know that,
that's the argument from the poll at Pocket Protectors. Spending
money on guys doesn't guarantee anything. Well, yeah, but it
still gives you a better chance if that guy pans
out so.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, even to go to the Wild, even if the
Quinn Hughes thing's completely falls apart, I think everyone in
the Wild fan base goes respect you going up to
the plate and swinging right right. Even the Perezy suitor
thing right now? Was that as bad as maybe we
think about them, You know, they were basically a playoff
team for eight years in a row and had a
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shot and obviously did not end well. But I still
think most Wild then goes, I like that Chuck Fletcher
took a shot on that day.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And that's the way I felt about the Goldbart deal.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
How many times, I know, I repeat myself all the time,
but I said, I don't know if it's gonna work,
but as bad as this team has been hot.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I repeat myself.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Oh okay, yeah, I repeat myself.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I was.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm all four got to try something that the franchise
has been so inept and so unsuccessful. We had that
stretch where we had, you know, under McHale and Flip,
where we went to the playoffs like seven times in
a row, but we were one and done all seven
of those, and so and so Conley hard to argue.
I mean, I know, we got bounced in the Western
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Conference finals, and we really weren't that far out.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Of winning those.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
We just needed to win three more games and not
lose four. We lost four games to one in each one,
but at least the team got to the West but
they hadn't been there. They'd only been there once two
thousand and three dollars back to back years.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
So you're right.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'm the same way with Garan. If it let's say
it looks like we're going to qualify the playoff, I mean,
we have to be complete and total collapse.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
But let me make the plays.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
And let's say we get out of the first round
this year and then losing the second can or get
to the conference finals and lose, and then let's say
Hughes decides I.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Really want to play with my brothers.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I'm not signing, okay, but at least they like you say,
they took a chance because you can. There's no guarantees
in any of these draft picks, these trades.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Any of this.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
There's no guarantee because we don't know how good. What's
the ceiling for all these guys? How many of these
guys can, like we say with the Twins farm system,
how many of those guys wanted to be players that
you can count on year after year for like I say,
six seven years. So I yeah, I love the trade
that guarant did. I love what Conley did, and I
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like what Tom pol At has said.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
But you know, the old actions speak louder than words.
We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
By the way, you made the comment of you know,
what if Quinn leaves in Moscow play with his brothers.
What if his brothers want to come play with Quinn? Oh,
you've not.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Seen nothing like the mighty Quinn. That could be.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
What if they go, man on that Minnesota looks like
a fun place to play. They got to got themselves
a team, Let's go go, let's go.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
There are are both those guys?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
How good are they? I know they're not his count?
Are they both?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Jack is pretty good?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, I'd say Luca is the lessest least of the three.
Quin Quin's an absolute stud. He's a right top two defenseman,
top ten.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Player in the league.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Jack is one of the best young players in the league,
so he'd be worth having.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
And I think his contract's up in three years, I think,
is what I heard. And then that's what is it?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, so three or four years, you know, with Quinn,
I think people are worried how you get to this
offseason and he's not going to want to resign here.
I think it's possible Quinn matches up his contract with
Jack so that they hit free agency at the same time.
So you might get like a short extension here. Okay,
see how it goes right, right, And if you like
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it and the team's you know, contending for Cups every
year and got to self a chance, then you might
stay here and try to bring your brother Jack here.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
They're terrible owners. They've created this.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
It was their own doing, and they've done it systematically
over the last twenty five years. Hold On, they had
an opportunity to expand the fan base when Target Field open.
They've squandered every opportunity they've been presented. The failure of
their ownership will be taught in business schools. Someday I
can't argue that he said. But and that's why I
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set actions. I just at least I like what pole
Ads said. That's what I'm saying is I've never seen
this franchise, this fourth coming. They've denied all that. You know,
they've always tried to act like, oh no, you know.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
It's just worth smalling limits on the payroll.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Oh yeah, we don't put limits on the payroll. And
you know we're just a small market. We're fighting the
uphel Battle of Alemion.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
That could at least Tom's saying, we know we've let
the fans down, the organization.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Down, we know they hate us.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
It's basically he's admitting everything and whether the one thing,
like I say is yeah, we're gonna we're gonna bump
up the payroll someday it's like yeah. So again it's
like okay, that's that's where he kind of loses me
a little bit. But we'll we'll see how it goes.
But yeah, I for me, more than anything was when
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they basically said joint cutting it, because that's what he made.
That's what they said, joint cutting it. I got to
take over it's it's time to set there. There needs
to be somebody else, because it doesn't sound like Tom wanted.
From what I understand about is it was Tom or Joe.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I think it was Tom.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
He spent he went to like Boston College, and he
spent a year. Rosen used to watch him in study
hall because he had a Boston College student Cam as well.
And and Tom I think spent like a year like
interning with Major League Baseball or something like that.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
So and then that's really not what he wanted to do.
Not everybody wants to be.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
In the in in in you know, in in in
the family business. I'd love to be running a club
for myself, but I would have got let go to
because I would have I would I spent all.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That would get a little awkward at Christmas in the
family holidays though, And well I just took over for
you because you weren't very good at your job.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
And like he even as I in that quote, as
we saw, I mean it was he said, it's been
difficult between me and my brother.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah, they should have just sold the team.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, well they probably should have. But there's where we
are now. Oh, we'll take about Western Michigan still leads
Kennesauce State forty one to six, ten.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Minutes to go.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Kennesau State's not out of this. Touchdown, two point conversion,
onside kick. Touchdown, two point conversion on side kick. Touchdown,
two point conversion, onside kick.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
We'll break, we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Thank you, We'll take a break, We'll come back and
uh feminine touch. She's back. We'll be She joins us
next comment man program in the Family
Just hold that Cord.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
School school SCOO all sco all school.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
So yeah, keep pushing, keep pushing on out hard to
get really excited for a game of the six and
eight team against the.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Two and twelve.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, but that's okay because playoff games, and say, oh wait,
we're not in playoff games. I am. I think I'm
in the bass minority. I don't want them to tank,
but I want him to lose three in a row
because we get a better draft and I want the
team to play well though, and I want McCarthy to
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play well.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Does that make sense what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I mean, and I'm not even asking you to accept
that and agree that that's what you want. But can
you understand my logic or do you think it's so illogical,
so preposterous and so oh we got to.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Got a new line.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We got to get Diego to do.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The common Man program Stupid on purpose with a purpose,
Sweatburg and I came up with that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's a good slogan for the show.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Don't you think the common man stupid on purpose with
a purpose?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You like it? Huh? Well, because we're stupid on purpose?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Back when Sweedburg used to be our boss. I'd be like,
I think that's really funny, really great. I don't have
to say I have to do the robot voice. Yeah
you should.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
In other words, you think I should send it to
rewrite and have him punch it up, because you get
my logic at all, ors it's just totally preposterous.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's kind of freeing not to have to do the
robot voice.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, it is kind of nice. It's just because I
don't think I have.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
To do it for my good friend Mitch Davis, who
took over as the uh whatever that long fancy titleist
senior or vice president of programming ont Minneapolis. Can you
understand my logic that I I mean, I want to
get like, the more games you lose, the higher your
draft pick. Yeah, that's I don't want them to be
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too and I want McCarthy to make progress. He can
still Matt Stafford threw for six hundred yards last night
and lost. He played brilliantly. Why can't McCarthy throw for
six hundred yep, five hundred year throw for two fifty
three hundred again in a losing Ever, what's the big deal?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Because here's the other thing I.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Heard the SoundBite in there, so I can tell you're
not with me on this, right?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Are you with me on this?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He said, like, we want to stack them in December
so we can fall back on that next year. Do
you believe that if they were to win some games
here in December that that benefits the team?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
See, I don't believe that. I think each year.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Is so individualistic as we know of a different team. Yeah,
we were fourteen and three last year in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
This year, let's.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Say we you know, we might be eight and nine
or nine and eight, right, And it's like, well, I
don't think. I don't think next year they're going to
be Week six and they're gonna be lined up and
the guy's gonna go, I remember December. It's in December
to remember. And then he thinks about the Lexus he
wants to buy.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But you see what I'm saying, I just don't think
that anything.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's like the contract, you know, it's like the distraction
is SO and So's contract. You know he's had a
stalemate like his Caprice offs contry.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know he was waiting for that contract. Is it
a distraction to the other player?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I don't think when bold he's skating down the right
side of the rink into the neutral zone. He's thinking, Man,
I wonder if Carell's gonna sign that dealer or not.
And then he loses the puck and then go the
other way and the other team scores. I don't believe
in any of that. I don't And I get, I mean,
you know, and the coach is saying what he has
to say, because that's what they have to say, But.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I don't believe that in any way.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He loves saying in any way, in any way, shape
or form. He says that a lot. That's one of
his favorites, and I like that one as well. I
don't think in any way, shape or form does it
really benefit the team next year?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, I understand the angle you're trying to go at. Okay,
my only count that would be I don't know how
much movement can be made, Oh, depending on winning or
losing with the draft picks, right, I mean, there's there's
six teams right now that are three to eleven, three
and eleven and worse. So like you ain't getting into
the top six right now. The Vikings are in the
eleven spot, right, so you're your three losses might get
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you to go from eleven to nine, right, Like, it's not,
You're not. And even even after that bottom six, you
still have three more teams that are four and ten Bengals, Saints, Commanders. Like,
what are the odds those any of those three teams
are jumping? The Vikings not gonna happen. So you're not
getting into the top nine. So at this point you're
sweating pick eleven as opposed to pick fourteen, which sure,
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I you know, I guess, Neil, would I rather have
the eleven pick them the fourteen pick? Of course, odds
are there's not going to be a huge difference in
a playmaker there where I'd still rather just you know,
see the progress within the team, specifically when you have
your young quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We might have to move up to get Pavilla, the
quarterback from Vanderbilt. The guy that said bleet the voters.
I just love that he just dialed that back. So
he back pedaled faster than Rosen because you know, a
handler said, ude, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The NFL teams don't want to draft up too.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, and he's probably not gonna he's kind of he's
I think he's shorter than I am, And you can
be short and play quarterback, but it's not ideal. Right,
the ideal quarterback now is what six three six, four, six,
five two twenty.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Those NFL linemen are taller than those college linemen.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, that's what they want. That's exactly right. So that's
what you want to see. Oh yeah, you've jam Moulin.
I want to win, then, I want to win. Now,
I guess I'm with you. Then I want to see
three wins in a row if we stack them.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know, if we didn't have your potential franchise young quarterback,
then I would pay right. If Nick Mullins is playing
right now, I'd be like, lose them all.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I still not that you're gonna get You're gonna learn
everything about JJ McCarthy in the next three weeks, but
there still might be a decision to be made this
off season of the quarterback. So I need to get
every little piece of information I can out of him
to determine whether we want to go that route again,
or if we want to bring in some competition, or
if we want to go in a different direction.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah. Well, I guess My argument though, was that he
plays well and makes productcause like like Stafford last night. Now,
I'm yes, I'm comparing Stafford McCarthy. I was just comparing.
You could have a brilliant game and still lose. Stafford
lost last night in ot he threw for How about
nukah poknku How many did you see his night? He won?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Offer?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Was it two twive to tutties?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
But that was I tell you what, you know a
little too much offense for me, right, I don't I
like defensive games, but that was highly entertaining and the
result couldn't have been better for me with the little
spread swing debate. Roseen and I remember going to take
Chicago and then he started doing that Sam Donald's having
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nightmares from what happened.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Wha, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now, I'm sure he was getting pretty haughty last night
in his own brain too, as that game.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Was going along.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Oh. We had a little back and forth which was fun. Well,
and I made the accusation yesterday. And I don't know
if you agree with this he wants I'm of the
opinion he does not want Donald's before more accidental looks
bad for Minnesota's.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I think that's a Minnesota fan mentality. That a lot
of them.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, absolutely, that's what that That's why he wanted, That's
why he was even in.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The Hughes trade. We will have the best player in
that trade. Yeah, I guarantee there's Minnesota sports fans cheering
against Zebu Yam moving forward, cheering against Marco Russ.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Right because they don't want to make over. And we
got the worst end of that deal. So last night
I texted Roseen and tweeted, well, I tweeted, I think
Sam Donald's having nightmares from the Rams playoff game last year, right,
and then he texted me back right, Well, then you
saw what happened. I mean, Donald was he was real.
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I mean he threw an interception at the goal line.
He threw two bad interceptions. He got tricked by by
the defensive coordinator of the players two different times. One
was almost returned for a tuddy, the other one stopped
them at.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The goal line.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But then he was brilliant late in the game, got
a two touchdown. Well they got the return for one. Anyway,
long story short, I was able to text Roseen.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
An tweet out.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I said, from nightmares to a dream come true, Old
Sam Donald had an arm ei e I and I
think that is big for this said. Now, they tried
to bait him into it last night. You know the
one thing that they do on on Netflix when they
do the games, they always they have their crew at
the stadium and there they bring up two players to
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interview right after the game, after they get a chance
to put the locker room. And it was Donald and
Nijigba last night, right, And they tried to get Donald
to do the old the ass good to get revenge,
I'd get the monkey off my back with the Rams,
and he wasn't having any part of it all.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He basically did that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
They're all a bit right, but I think I think
deep down that probably did me because that team, he
was one and four against the Rams, and he threw
four picks earlier this year. You saw what he did
last year in the play a playoff game against the Vikings.
So I think that was more of their offensive line.
But I think that that they said he couldn't win
a big game, that was the rap on him, right,
(09:26):
And you could make that argument. Now last night wasn't
a playoff game, and it wasn't, but it was a
big game. Huge, It's a huge regular season game and
he was. He was shaky, but you know I could
tell people. I don't have to break here, but you know,
people way through those two interceptions as well, there's only
a hand. I mean, yeah, he's not the best quarterback
in pro football.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I who would say that. There's only you got Pat
Mahomes and Josh Allen and maybe one or two other guys,
and those are your top guys.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't even know if Joe Burrow's there anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm seen enough of Joe Burrow healthy to know how
Joe Burrow can play. So you have different Not everybody
can have Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen, so you have to.
That's why they tier quarterbacks when they do those power rankings.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And so he's pretty good to.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Have on your club. He was good last night, and
they win the game. We'll take a break, we'll talk
more Vikings football. Little Bee's back after two weeks off.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, babe, in touch.
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I think we kind of covered that Vikings played the
Giants and the Metal Lands. This coming weekend, Sunday coverage
begins at ten be here for the Pooch kick at
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twelve noon. Two teams going nowhere except home at the
end of the season. Well, the Giants already at home.
They're not going to go anywhere else. They're in the
medal Lands. We'll have that game where we look for
progress from the from JJ McCarthy. Wild win again last
night Tennabee. It's like all they do is win. Yeah,
you know. I oftentimes during five to three four you'll
(12:43):
have a question that starts with trend of mirage. This
is this is a trend. You can't say this is
a mirage. I mean, we know things can change in
a hurry. We've seen it with this Wild club this
year and last year. Both started exactly the opposite and
kind of ended the opposite, right, you know, Great Star
Art then faded away.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
This year we had a terrible start. Now we've come on.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But the trade I think obviously infused Hughes infuse some.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Enthusiasm with the club. Everybody's excited about it, I mean
and I think the players all handle it right.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You know, three guys were traded from your current roster,
and you're all teammates and your brothers, and you're all
for one and one for all, and you don't step
on the logo on the carpet in the middle of
the of the locker room, and you know, you don't
want to say, oh, yes, we got this guy's worth
three more week were so you know, you want to
say you're happy he's here, but you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You know, you do miss your guys.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But I think I think anybody would would are I
think you could make the argument and no one could
argue with you that the team's better with Hughes.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Though. Now last night one shot on goal, no no goals,
no assists. Did we really need them?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
They need Okay, well, especially with the amount of injuries
they have right now on that blue line alone, they're
without four defensemen. So Quinn Hughes had to pick up
the amount of minutes. You know, he typically he's a
twenty five minute a game night, twenty five minutes a
night kind of person, and he's had to play twenty
nine ish for you the last couple of games because
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they are just Dustmand right now. Brodein's out and Middleton's out,
and Bog's out and Damon Hunts out. So they're playing
your Carson Lambos made his NHL debut last night. It
seems like half their roster is the Iowa Wild right now.
And that's what makes us run even more impressive, is
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they're I could. I don't want to get two skate
rits like here, but it's the thought of what's going
to happen when this team, if they ever get fully healthy,
and how they're going to look. Right now, you have
Trenion on your second line and Tarasenko on your second
line and playing some guys in your bottom six that
should be in Iowa. Half your decour should be in Iowa.
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And all they do is continue to win. And after
seeing Quinn Hughes now for a stretch the last two games,
they've had a line of Caprice Off Bowldy, Eric Sineck together,
You're with and Tarasenko, right, yeah, I know, I'm just
talking about like the main five, right those three and
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then they put Quinn, Hughes and brock Favor on the
ice together, So all five of those guys your best
five players are on the ice together, they look unstoppable.
I mean, they don't spend a lick in their own zone.
They have the fuck in the And it's so weird
to say this as a Wild fan, like our high
end guyser as good as anyone's now, Okay, Like, I mean,
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if you took the top top three forwards and top
two defenseman on any given team in the National Hockey League,
we're right up there with any of them. And I've
never said that as a Minnesota Wild fan. And once
you get some health back and get some depth to
go along with it, that's just going to supplement even more.
And then the goaltending has been good again. I mean
we've all said was solid last night. It's hard not
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to be excited as a Wild fan now this. This
team's got a lot of potential this season.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
When the forwards regained their health. Do you split up,
You're off Trendon and Tarasenko. They've been have they not?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Ah, Man, it's hard to say. It's weird to say because.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Tarasenko is he's beating father time.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, you know, you're off in and Tarasenko combined for
three goals two games ago and then last night, they
had a beautiful goal on a three on two rush
just tic tac toe Tarasenko puts.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
In the net.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm not ready to keep those three together forever, but
the last couple of games have been very nice, and
what they've gotten ont of Tarasenko these last two games,
if they get that moving forward. But you know, this
is a team that once you get healthy, and I
don't think they're done before the trade deadline. I think
you are still going to try to add offense. I mean,
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your blue line's good and your goaltending is good. I
think you still want to add a little more offensive
punch average.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You might go.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You know, I don't know how many assets they have
to give anymore, because they've given up a lot of
assets the last couple of years for your check and
then Quinn hughes. But I when salar cap wise, they
should be fine at least for this season to still
be able to go out and get a big salary guy.
So I think they can still add because they're they're
proving they can contend for the Cup.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Someone sent a TEXTI.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Says Quinn said a career high for a time on
the ice. Last night, there was a career high for
him he had, really somebody said it was thirty two minutes?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Is that thirty two last night?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What somebody said? And that's a career high for him?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well, if I had couldn't use I throw I throw
him over the boards every other shift too.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Let me ask you this, See if you can answer
this question. Riddle me this.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You mentioned when our top five players are on where
basically nothing's going to stop us. Now they're star we
should should we just start calling them the starship line?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Let's do that?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
And they are a bunch of stars.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Well, they sing together when the starship line is on
the ice. If you're an if you're the opponent, let's
say you're the coach that to be the other club,
what do you do to try.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
To You know you can't shut them down, but what
do you do to slow them up? What do you do?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You put your best line against them? Do you rough
them up? Not necessarily cheap shop and try to get physical?
What can a team do in an effort to try to.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I don't mean, I don't mean to take the easy
way out on your question. It all depends on what
your personnel is on that team. Right, Clearly, you're putting
your best defensive defenseman out against them. If you are
a team right like the Wild can throw Jewel Eric
Sack out against If you're going up against Connor McDavid,
who's overrated, you throw Eric's neck over the boards.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He's your best checking center, right.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean you got you better have players that
are accustomed to playing in their own zone and aren't
going to panic in your own zone and aren't going
to turn the puck over when they get it.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm not sure if the parade will go over. I
we'll go from Saint Paul to Mineapolis. I think this
include both cities. But we want to be the beginning
of the parade or the end of the parade, because
the end of the parade will they'll end at Saint
Paul right at Grand Casino Arena.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I would think, so, so do you and I want.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
To be at the end of the parade or where
it begins, or somewhere in the middle beginning of the
middle of the end.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I think I want to be at the very end.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I think you'll be leading the bandwagon's way.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You'll be done, you know, That's how That's how I roll.
We'll take a break, We'll come back.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I Tom Poland takes over for Joe Poland. He had
a wide ranging, free flowing news conference the other day
when they announced that he would be taking over running
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the day to day operations of the team. He'd also
be the a liaison between Major League Baseball and the team,
taking over for Jim polad And. He also talked about
the limiteds but there was some there were some there
were some comments there that raised some interesting isitiones.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I want to dive into those. Ten to the other
side of the break.
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Speaker 3 (20:35):
The Murty Beach Bowl presented by Engine is the one
I've been waiting. I'm just so happy that it happened
early because it's one I've been waiting for. I really
thought Kennesau State would be able to give Western Michigan
everything they wanted, but apparently Western Michigan has taken anything
they wanted three fifty to go clock running. I think
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Kennesau State.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Already one to six.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Is anybody I wish they would show a shot of
the stands?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I guarantee it's not even a quarter fall, right, because.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I don't think there's enough people that live wherever Kennesaw
State or Western Michigan is located that could even fill
the stands.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And then there's just small little communities, college towns.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's basically just guys that were there on golf trips
in Myrtle Beach to go, oh, there's football game. Now,
we got nothing to do for the next couple of hours. Correct,
that's those are the only people that showed up.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, if they're if they even showed up, but that
would be it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It was announced a couple of days ago, I think
beginning of the week, Uh that the twins, the Minnesota
Twins finally announced to their limited part job.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Craig Leepold to the Wild bought in.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Then the Glick family and then another family said they
have like the three or four different A couple of
other smaller ones too. That have all bought a portion
of the team that the Twins did it to try
to they were like, they claimed to be five hundred
million dollars in debt and this was able. The money
that these new limiteds gave the pole Ads to purchase
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part of the club will pay down that debt. It's
also announced that Tom Polett, the older brother to Joe,
would be and I think Jim's son one of that
one one one of the track, but he's one of
the sons of the one of the Rob, Chip and Ernie,
the three the sons of Carl Polett and Tom is
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taking over. He's older brother to Joe. He succeeded his
brother as the family member overseeing the Twins organization and then,
pending Major League Baseball approval, he will replace his uncle
Jim as the franchisees control person to serve as the
primary lie. He's on a Major League Baseball so he's
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taken and putting a lot on his plate. What I
found interesting to I mean, I actually admire Tom for
this in the pole Ad family.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
It's been a hard It's been hard on our family,
this decision to make a transition within our family has
been extremely difficult. It's been hard on the relationship between
Joe and myself. It's been especially hard on my dad
and my two uncles. All Joe ever wanted was to
be part of this organization and to lead it and
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help this franchise win a world championship. Things change, we
have to make a decision as a family. He understands.
He has been graceful, kind and believes that whatever is
in the best interest of the organization is best.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's pretty forthcoming.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I mean they're basically saying they basically went to Joe
and said you're out. Yeah, it's not working, You're done.
It was hard on Joe. He wanted that job. He
loved that matter. I remember when they were when they
announced they were selling the team. I don't know if
it was right away he said this, but sometime during
the time when they first announced it to where they
got now where they decided not to sell the team,
(24:00):
he said, yeah, we'd like to sell, but I want
to keep running it. This is what he wanted to do,
and they could have easily just said, ah, Joe didn't
want to do it anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I wanted to step back from it.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You know what, I'm saying to protect him because it's
I'm not saying necessarily it's embarrassing, but he was devoted.
You're not going to do it anymore after a short time,
after a very short period of time, and so I thought,
at least so if there is fourth coming there, hopefully
the organization now being led by Tom pole Ed will
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be as is open and honest.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
With the fans. As a matter of fact, he says that. Later,
he says, quote, we've got to do a better job.
We've got to do a better job.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Of telling fans where we're going, how we're going to
get there, and why we're doing the things we're doing.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I commit to that going forward.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So again he's he's promising committing to it. Complete transparency, communication, communication,
though there's some of it here though that I am.
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He goes on to say, we're in it for the
long haul, adding that the Major League Baseball approval process
led the delay before Wedness Day's a minority minority ownership
revealed Pull that family accumulated five hundred million. I'm reading
from a fisherp factory West side story. Pull that family
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accumulated five hundred million in debt, about a third of
the team's market value while running the Twins that swelled
over the past five years. The two biggest culprits and
declining revenues were ticket sales, particularly during the COVID effected
seasons from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, and they
lost their regional sports network TV deal which ended them
fifty four point eight million in twenty twenty three. Tom
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goes on to say, we have chosen for some time
now to continue to invest beyond with the revenue support.
People like to say we're not committed to investing in
this team. Five hundred million dollars of debt would tell
you exactly the opposite. That's how the debt got to
where it is. Well, did it or was it because
more of COVID, You know what I'm saying, It wasn't
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you know. I think that had more to do with
it than anything. They just the revenues weren't there. But
he says the sale process led to a lot of
self reflection among the family members about what needs to
change with how they run the organization. He says, it's
undeniable that we haven't won enough baseball games. The financial
health of the club has been put in jeopardy, and
we've got a fan base that has lost trust in
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us as owners and as a result is organization and
the direction is headed with the conclusion of the transaction,
now is the time to put new leadership in place
and a renewed sense of energy, renewed sense of focus,
a different level of accountability, and ultimately a clearer direction
on where we're taking this organization. Now. Of course, some
of you've heard the old cliche talk is cheap, so
(27:12):
you can say all this, will see where it leads.
Because he does talk about.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Spending money.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
He says, we certainly are within reach of winning a
division title. He thinks right now they are within reach
of winning a division title. Will continue to look at
moves we can make that will help us accomplish that.
Then the question was asked in the piece by the
fish Rap, why not put more money towards the payroll
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to give the roster a better chance of winning in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Here's what he says.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I don't think the landscape what I see right now
that we should put a significant investment into the team
of adding fifty to sixty million dollars to the payroll.
But I don't think we're far off from that. He
plans to be an active owner, but noted he will
leave baseball decision making to team president Derek Faldy in
general manager Jeremy Zohle.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So what he's.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Saying is, if I, if I can interpret, this, doesn't
seem like it's too difficult. Well, they're they're willing to
spend more money. Again, they just don't think now is
the right time. But if you think you can compete
for a division title, which he just said, wouldn't that
be the time to invest. So that's what that's to me.
That's that doesn't make any sense. That's what to me,
there's a bit of a disconnect between me and what
he says. I liked everything else he was saying. I
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like being forthcoming and if they really, you know, if
what he said in these quotes i've read, if he
really means all that. But to me, I don't understand
that if you think you can compete for a division
title as it stands, then why wouldn't you buttress the
payroll with some extra money and add add some other players?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Right then? That seems like it would only make sense.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I think the competing for division title is one of
the those cliches you used because you want season ticket
holders to renew and you want to make sure you
have butts in the seats. But when you send as
many players away as it did last year, that's not
a one year turnaround, right. You're bringing in a bunch,
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You're bringing in a bunch of prospects in return. Those
guys aren't just going to be ready in twenty twenty
six to contribute at a major league level before.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
That's a two, three, four of you process.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Here's what Elsie said, and this kind of dovetails a
little bit with what I was talking about with the Vikings,
going back to you know when you decided after the
Sam Donald year you went fourteen and three.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
We know they lost to the kiddies.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Donald was bad, got clobbered by the Rams and the playoffs,
and Donald didn't play well.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
But I think more than anything, that had a lot
to do with the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But it says you're the Twins signaled the teams at
the end of November, after conversations with their ownership structure,
they plan to keep their all star our players. It's
the quote needle that we're trying to thread between field
and a competitive team next year while shifting to a
younger core of the roster. Paul Out goes on to say,
there was probably an argument to tear the whole thing down,
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get as much value as you can for our players,
and really put an emphasis on two years from now
or three years from now.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
On paper.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, maybe that makes sense, but you can't just look
at things on paper. We owe the fan base something,
we owe a veteran and star player something, We owe
this organization something, and that's something as hope. So they're
selling hope, as I've talked about many many times. That's
what all professional sports teams sell as at hope. You
hope they have a good draft, You hope they have
a good free agency, you have I hope they have
(30:41):
a good oda, you hope they have good mini camps,
good pre season, blah blah blah. And then you change
it to baseball, hockey, basketball, whatever the case may be.
But you know, when he says we owe it to
our fan base, we owe our veteran and star player something.
And that's what I was talking about. Remember when we discussed, well,
you can say, you know we're going to play McCarthy
(31:02):
and I'm gonna and we're he's going to just have
to learn as we go. But you have veteran players
on that team, including Justin Jefferson, who has taken this.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All very well, at least publicly.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
He's not made, he's not pouted, he's not complained, he
hasn't done the divas stuff. He hasn't asked out, and
I believe that's how he really feels. But that's what
we were talking about. When you know, and there are
people that when I would discuss that with me, they'd
just say, too bad for you. You know, you just tell
the players, too bad, you know, suck it up.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
This is what the organization is going to do, which
is true. The organization can do whatever they want.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But that's dangerous if you start looking at guys that
they're laying it online, guys in the trading room, guys
that are trying to play for extra contracts they want
to win, and all of a sudden, you know, hell, sorry,
our quarterback's been really bad. It's going to take you know,
it's gonna make at least a year, year and a half,
maybe two years for him to get to get any good.
You owe to the fan base, you owe to the organization,
you owe to the veteran players. So it's a delicate
(31:57):
dance you're doing. I get that, and he's a admitting
to that right now. So we'll see where it goes.
I mean, I don't think I don't know anything about
Tom pull out other than what I read here.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Sure, but it does seem like this.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Is a move that need to be made because Joe
just wasn't getting it done when he did the old.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What did he say? What was it? The right sizing
the payroll?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Remember when when that quote came out, that's the one
that hung with him forever and it really made fans
bitter about right sizing the payroll.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Well, and then the other and you mentioned this one
before when they originally said they were going to sell
the team, and then the reports came out that he
would still like to run the Yeah, he'd like to
run the club even they're going to sell to somebody else.
I'm like, that's just the guy who doesn't he doesn't
get it.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And so.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Now what And to your point on Tom, you got
to follow through with everything where he's saying. But I
think at least what Tom appears to be recognizing is
is there's a huge disconnect between our organization in the
fans right now, the bigest, the biggest it's ever been,
and we need to do everything we can clean them
back up now. I also do think the fans are
so disconnected that I think other than spending money on players,
(33:11):
I don't think they're ever going to believe in you again. Yeah,
and are the poloads going to be willing to do that?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
The only way without spending money on players if some
of these young guys come up right away and make
immediate impacts, because they did, I saw it again, I
don't know where I And again I have to take
the I have to take the people that I trust.
I have to take their word for when you because
I've read in several different places, I think both Fish Raps,
(33:39):
the Athletic and other places that the Twins have been
rated as the second best, you know, as far as
accumulation of young talent.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Their minor league system is ranked number two right now
with prospects.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Well they should be with how many they trade exactly
and the ones they had before the trades, but the
people they acquired. So let's just and and again you
and I have had discussion. You can have ten highly
regarded prospects. How many of those ten, what percentage of
those will end up being superstar players?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Maybe one?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
How many will be just good quality players that will
be mainstays in the lineup for six seven years?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Maybe two more right? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
And how many of the pitchers? Maybe one guy? So
it and I don't know if those odds are you
could hit the jackpot. You could have ten guys and
eight of them are superstars and then you're in business.
So you're right unless they spend money or they bring
up five young guys this year and they're all get
off to great starts, and you're just doing the old Godwards.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
A young team, we're playing well, we got great guys.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
And then if they did what the Wild just did
by trading for Quinn Hughes, if they went out then
made a trade and said, because remember we waited for
that all the time when those teams were winning division
titles back in the in the odds.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
What they didn't do was when it came to trade deadline, they.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Rarely, they rarely tried to make the team better with
a major trade.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
They did, so they could have used to Bill garn
back then.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, they could have used a really big and you
know what, that still might not have worked. We know that,
that's the argument from the poll at Pocket Protectors. Spending
money on guys doesn't guarantee anything. Well, yeah, but it
still gives you a better chance if that guy pans
out so.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, even to go to the Wild, even if the
Quinn Hughes thing's completely falls apart, I think everyone in
the Wild fan base goes respect you going up to
the plate and swinging right right. Even the Perezy suitor
thing right now? Was that as bad as maybe we
think about them, You know, they were basically a playoff
team for eight years in a row and had a
(35:40):
shot and obviously did not end well. But I still
think most Wild then goes, I like that Chuck Fletcher
took a shot on that day.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And that's the way I felt about the Goldbart deal.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
How many times, I know, I repeat myself all the time,
but I said, I don't know if it's gonna work,
but as bad as this team has been hot.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I repeat myself.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Oh okay, yeah, I repeat myself.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I was.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm all four got to try something that the franchise
has been so inept and so unsuccessful. We had that
stretch where we had, you know, under McHale and Flip,
where we went to the playoffs like seven times in
a row, but we were one and done all seven
of those, and so and so Conley hard to argue.
I mean, I know, we got bounced in the Western
(36:31):
Conference finals, and we really weren't that far out.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Of winning those.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
We just needed to win three more games and not
lose four. We lost four games to one in each one,
but at least the team got to the West but
they hadn't been there. They'd only been there once two
thousand and three dollars back to back years.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
So you're right.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'm the same way with Garan. If it let's say
it looks like we're going to qualify the playoff, I mean,
we have to be complete and total collapse.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
But let me make the plays.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
And let's say we get out of the first round
this year and then losing the second can or get
to the conference finals and lose, and then let's say
Hughes decides I.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Really want to play with my brothers.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I'm not signing, okay, but at least they like you say,
they took a chance because you can. There's no guarantees
in any of these draft picks, these trades.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Any of this.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
There's no guarantee because we don't know how good. What's
the ceiling for all these guys? How many of these
guys can, like we say with the Twins farm system,
how many of those guys wanted to be players that
you can count on year after year for like I say,
six seven years. So I yeah, I love the trade
that guarant did. I love what Conley did, and I
(37:36):
like what Tom pol At has said.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
But you know, the old actions speak louder than words.
We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
By the way, you made the comment of you know,
what if Quinn leaves in Moscow play with his brothers.
What if his brothers want to come play with Quinn? Oh,
you've not.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Seen nothing like the mighty Quinn. That could be.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
What if they go, man on that Minnesota looks like
a fun place to play. They got to got themselves
a team, Let's go go, let's go.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
There are are both those guys?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
How good are they? I know they're not his count?
Are they both?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Jack is pretty good?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, I'd say Luca is the lessest least of the three.
Quin Quin's an absolute stud. He's a right top two defenseman,
top ten.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Player in the league.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Jack is one of the best young players in the league,
so he'd be worth having.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
And I think his contract's up in three years, I think,
is what I heard. And then that's what is it?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, so three or four years, you know, with Quinn,
I think people are worried how you get to this
offseason and he's not going to want to resign here.
I think it's possible Quinn matches up his contract with
Jack so that they hit free agency at the same time.
So you might get like a short extension here. Okay,
see how it goes right, right, And if you like
(38:49):
it and the team's you know, contending for Cups every
year and got to self a chance, then you might
stay here and try to bring your brother Jack here.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
They're terrible owners. They've created this.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
It was their own doing, and they've done it systematically
over the last twenty five years. Hold On, they had
an opportunity to expand the fan base when Target Field open.
They've squandered every opportunity they've been presented. The failure of
their ownership will be taught in business schools. Someday I
can't argue that he said. But and that's why I
(39:25):
set actions. I just at least I like what pole
Ads said. That's what I'm saying is I've never seen
this franchise, this fourth coming. They've denied all that. You know,
they've always tried to act like, oh no, you know.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
It's just worth smalling limits on the payroll.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Oh yeah, we don't put limits on the payroll. And
you know we're just a small market. We're fighting the
uphel Battle of Alemion.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
That could at least Tom's saying, we know we've let
the fans down, the organization.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Down, we know they hate us.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
It's basically he's admitting everything and whether the one thing,
like I say is yeah, we're gonna we're gonna bump
up the payroll someday it's like yeah. So again it's
like okay, that's that's where he kind of loses me
a little bit. But we'll we'll see how it goes.
But yeah, I for me, more than anything was when
(40:15):
they basically said joint cutting it, because that's what he made.
That's what they said, joint cutting it. I got to
take over it's it's time to set there. There needs
to be somebody else, because it doesn't sound like Tom wanted.
From what I understand about is it was Tom or Joe.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I think it was Tom.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
He spent he went to like Boston College, and he
spent a year. Rosen used to watch him in study
hall because he had a Boston College student Cam as well.
And and Tom I think spent like a year like
interning with Major League Baseball or something like that.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
So and then that's really not what he wanted to do.
Not everybody wants to be.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
In the in in in you know, in in in
the family business. I'd love to be running a club
for myself, but I would have got let go to
because I would have I would I spent all.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That would get a little awkward at Christmas in the
family holidays though, And well I just took over for
you because you weren't very good at your job.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
And like he even as I in that quote, as
we saw, I mean it was he said, it's been
difficult between me and my brother.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah, they should have just sold the team.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, well they probably should have. But there's where we
are now. Oh, we'll take about Western Michigan still leads
Kennesauce State forty one to six, ten.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Minutes to go.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Kennesau State's not out of this. Touchdown, two point conversion,
onside kick. Touchdown, two point conversion on side kick. Touchdown,
two point conversion, onside kick.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
We'll break, we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Thank you, We'll take a break, We'll come back and
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