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Common Man Hour 2 --5 Questions --Beatdown by Buckeyes --Vikings Deception? --Quarterback Whisperer

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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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Speaker 4 (00:35):
I'm comedies tend to be fast paced, action packed and controversial.
First hour of the grum expect more of the same.
And hour number two we kick things off with five
three four I said five three.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Four time now four.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Five questions? Well, actually three, but five sounds like more
than four. Question number one, it's time now for It's
a low down in Dinky Town.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The Gophers were beaten down by the Buckeyes forty two
to three Saturday night at Ohio Stadium, Ohio State Out
Game Minnesota four hundred and seventy four to one to
sixty two, and gave up only ninety six yards over
the final fifty three minutes and five seconds. After that
Gopher's opening drive that led to a field goal, the
Buckeyes amassed five passing plays of twenty nine yards or

(01:33):
longer and averaged twelve point two yards per pass attempt.
They went seven for ten and third downs the Gophers
just one for eleven. Comin What sticks out to you
from that Gopher's loss at Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
That being delusional only gets you so far. You know,
the coach at the beginning of the season, I like him,
I really do.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I harbor no ill will toward H. PJ. Fleck.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
I've said before if he was my boss, i'd But
he's talking to seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty year old kids,
so it's it's great. It gets them fired up. The
UH kids play hard. Yeah they win games, you know
they don't, but it goes.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
To show you how far away you are from the elite.
And look at Ohio State's a special case.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
I mean there, they've given up in twenty They've get
up twenty five points in five games. Twenty five points
in five games is all they've given up. We got
three right out of the game. We were driving down
the field. If thought where I was watching.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
The game, We're slicing and dicing them. At the tailgate.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Party up at Gltoberfest Grandview, they put a great, big,
huge tent over one half of the driving range.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
They had a pig roast and all the fixings.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
You know, you got baked beans, the whole thing, right,
And so they had had the TV hooked up, and
so a number of us were gathered around the TV
watching the beginning. He started at six thirty. Live band started.
I introduced him at seven. But so we were watching
the game and Gophers got off to a nice start
and moved the ball, got into scoring range. Then drive stall,

(03:04):
as kind of felt it would just because it's Ohio State,
get three points and that's the last time we put
any points on the board. It was just just a
beat down. But you know, the coach you talked about
you got to be delusional. You know, there's no reason
why we can't have hopes and dreams and aspire to
get into the twelve team playoff. It's like, really hard

(03:25):
to do. There are so many good college football teams
out there. To be one of the top twelve was
really difficult to do. And it was just that's why
those numbers at the beginning of the year, you know,
they after their first after they beat Hostess Cupcake University
in the College of Dolly Madison, we saw these gaudy

(03:46):
numbers or they had the top rank defense in the country.
You know, for yards allowed, points allowed. They say, look
who you're playing. I mean, it was a fact those
were the best numbers, but we knew they were deceiving
and we saw that when they played Ohio State. There's
the headline in the Fisher Rep Factory West side was,
you know, good things to take from the game. There
is still a lot of hope for the future is bright.
And yeah, I'm not saying it's a dark future, but

(04:09):
it's It's what I've always said. And it doesn't mean
you can't enjoy the university and go to the games
and row the boat sky you mob. But I think
to get to be one of those elite teams year
we had that one year. Remember we went eleven and
two or something and we ended up in the in
the It was that like twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen or
twenty nineteen, I don't remember what it was.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
We had At the season ending.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Associated Press Coaches polled they were the tenth ranked team
in the country. Won a ball game. I think we
beat Auburn or Alabama or somebody.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I don't remember who it was, and you know, it
all was right with the world.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
But it's uh, it's tough to get their year after
year after year. But yeah, that was just it was.
It was tough sled, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Question number two.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
All my games, let's win, let's game there's it's now
time to take an in depth look at the state
of the skull.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's an anniversary today, Common, you know what the anniversary is. Sorry,
I mean to catch a midt for selling Oh both
your correct. That's the twenty year anniversary of the love
boat scandal, which occurred during the Vikings Bye Week.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Of course, go to Bye Week this week in.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Two thousand and five, Common, what do you remember about
the love boat scandal.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
That Bill O'Reilly invited me on to the O'Reilly fan
You don't remember you remember Bill O'Reilly. Of course. I
think he's off TV now because of the loof a
sponge incident. But he was on.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
He did get canceled, right, didn't he say something that
was Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I think it was the loof a sponge thing. You
have to look at Bill O'Reilly loofas that means. And
but when it they m yeah, they're they're there are
people called me.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
They they called the radio station and they wanted somebody
to come on and talk about the Love Book. And
somehow they got they got put in touch with me,
and I agreed.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
So I went down to w c Thank you. He
went down to w CCO TV.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
You know, when you if you were watching any of
those news shows like on Fox or CNN or MSNBC
or any of the others, you see somebody with the
Minneapolis skyline in their background. They're down at w CCO
Television downtown Minneapolis, inside a little room that tend Toby
is half the size of the studio. And you sit
there and you put the headset, you put the little

(06:45):
ear thing, you know, the the the the ear piece
in your in your ear and then all of a
sudden you hear, hey, Minneapolis, Uh are you there? And
you go, yeah, I'm here. Hey, this is Bill O'Reilly's people.
Blah blah blah, wh when you test? Okay, where Bill's
gonna bring on here in a little bit and we're
going to talk love Boat. So I remember talking love Boat.
So that's what I remember most is that I was

(07:05):
I had an opportunity to be on national television and
what I did. I recant to this tale before. If
you look at the picture of the skyline in the background.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
It's just like a big picture that they put on
an easel.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
So I went back there and I drew a little
stick man on the top of the IDs building, hoping
it would show up on TV.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
But it was too faint, couldn't see it. But yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
They decided to celebrate, and I don't remember who was
all responsible for it.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
There were a couple of different vikings. I remember Fred smoot.
It was smooth. I think it was Fred's smooth.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
That was kind of I think allegedly he was kind
of the the brains behind the operation.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
And I think they brought in the women, yes that
they ladies that.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Were not there significant others, and there were there were
these kinds of dances and that kind of dances.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
And it was also and then there was rumors of
illegal drugs and I don't know if anything, I don't
know if that was ever proven or whatever came out,
but it was it was certainly a smadgenous smear on
the on that team and the organization, but yeah, it was.
And that led to a lot of a lot of jokes.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
They took a lot of cheap shots, both locally and nationally.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
For for weeks on end.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
So question number three.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Time now for an in depth look at the state
of the state of hockey.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
The Minnesota Wild signed goaltender Philip Gustifsen to a five year,
thirty four million dollar contract extension Saturday. Gustison was entering
the final year of his contract that paid him three
point seventy five million dollars annually. Last year, he went
thirty one nineteen and six with a two point five
six goal against average in a nine to fourteen Saferer
and finished sixth in Vesna Trophy voting common Do you

(09:04):
like the gus Bus extension?

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I'm sorry, I wasn't listening. I was just waiting for
my turn to talk. I guess we consider him a
pretty good goaltender, right, Is that about the going right?
Do you think he's overpaid? Underpaid? Do you think they
should have I.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Don't know what to sign. I don't know what to
think of him.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
So that's why I could see a scenario in which
he outplays this contract. I can see a scenario in
which we regret the contract and I'm not.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Like he was.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Definitely, you know, if you're sixth in the dosn't vot voting.
He had a good year last year. He was a
quality goalie last year. I still know, like to me,
once you start paying goalies lots of money, I need
goalies that can like win games for us as opposed
to just.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Be okay and not make mistakes.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Okay. The other part of this is.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's too bad Volstead had such a bad year last
year because he is considered at one point he was
considered top goalie prospect in all hockey and thought that
he was eventually going to be our guy. And I
wish he would have reached the point where that Gustufson
would have been more expendable because we already had our guy,
our goalie of the future. But now because we have

(10:19):
doubts in Balstad, we kind of have to commit ourselves
to Gustuson in hope that last year he continues that
production moving forward. I feel like there still might be
some inconsistencies with him, that he might have years where
this looks good in years we're regarding it, so.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Our goalie combination will.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Be Gustison in Volstad.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Is there any chance Flower comes out of retirement?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
You know, it's funny. I've seen I talked about it
with Russo and the ten of his gerald on Friday.
I asked him because I had seen one of those
national writers that's really plugged in, one of those kind
of guys hockey insiders, that said he's expecting that come
January and February, when there's teams that need a goalie,

(11:05):
oh really, that they're going to call Marc Andre Fleury.
And I asked that to Russo, and russ Is like, yeah,
I know of five teams that offered him contract for
this upcoming year, including you know, right before training campad
So and he's still basically like he's practicing like as
a as an ebug. He's not, he's not the ebug,

(11:25):
but he's like practicing with the Wild and like their prospects,
like every single day, like the emergency backup goalie. If
two goalies were to get hurt in a game, ebug
emergency backup goalie, all right, which he can't do that.
It has to be someone who hasn't like was not
in the league and under contract, but he's working for
the Wild. He's around the team every day. Russo is

(11:46):
convinced that he doesn't want to leave his kids. Sure,
So that if he did come out of retirement, it
would be in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's very controversial.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Maybe he'll be back between the pipes at the Ology
Grand because arena.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
There you go with pop.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
And that's it for today's edition of five questions, Well
actually three questions, but five sounds like more than four.

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Speaker 4 (13:24):
Head coach of as soon to be Big Game World
Champion Minnesota Vikings generally makes his day after the game
news conference appearance on the fan had about one twenty
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They'd be back or forward. It'd be at two thirty,
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(13:45):
unless it goes on and on and on and on.
And the coach tends to be very worthy, as we know,
especially after thrilling victories. And that was certainly one yesterday.
If you remember tenby last week, I was lamenting the
fact that as much as I love the company, the free, free, free,
I've already wanted something for free coffee.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
The break room was basically mud.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
It was like penz Oil ten W thirty recycled and
I used one of my The genie came out of
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want three wishes, and she said, your wish is my command.
I said, first of all, I want three more wishes,
and I had five after I used my other one,
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(14:28):
thanks to Caraboo.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
We got something new thanks to Cariboo.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Apparently Caribou was was listening to us and they came
to the rescue and they brought me a coffee. Did
you get one too?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I don't drink coffee, but I love the Strawberry Bananas movie.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
You got the song? Yeah, I love it. I've got
you know.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
And they wanted to know what my order was, and
it's like, I don't do food food drinks.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
So they called the Foo food drinks Foo food drinks.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, I don't do you know, Mali Lati, colliauds whatever
they do where they mixed different the lattes and frop
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Speaker 3 (15:28):
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Speaker 2 (15:50):
Tenneby Are you a with that sound effect you just made?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like you should be a spokesperson for Cariboo on television,
like a taste fairy or something.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I'd like to do it on radio or sure, yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I had I'd like to do it on a I'd
even like wear a sandwich board for the right amount
of money.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Just walk around one.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Of those peoples at the intersection dancing.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, just walk.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Around and sticking down here at the west End when
I get off work, not before I'm playing golf.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I do it afterwards though.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
So are you a big Diana Russini guy? Sure she's
plugged in right, yeah? And she writes for didn't she
wasn't she with the star tripper here and Mane are
ESPN locally or something and now she's with the Athletics.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I think she definitely was ESPN, and I think she
was based here. Just move within the last year, I
think a year or so to the Athletic.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
And she was based here locally, was she Yeah, because
I always thought she was in stution. I thought she
was in studio with with with Pia.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You're thinking of anythink of Courtney Cronin.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
That's what I'm thinking of, Courtney Cronan.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Diana Versini's national, Yeah, but I mean now Courney CROs
is kind of national. But yeah, she's specifically the Bears. Okay,
she covers a team or is Diana covers at all? Well?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Right, I guess what I'm saying is I got my
people confused.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I thought Diana Russini was the one that was covering
local and then went national, but apparently she was not. Nonetheless,
she does a notes thing that she did on Saturday
where she talked about several developments across the league, including
this one that says Vikings staying patient with JJ McCarthy.

(17:25):
Quarterback Carson Wentz will start again for the Vikings on
Sunday in London against the Browns. And McCarthy still sideline
with the high ankle sprain. The medical staff projected a
four to six week recovery.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Which I thought it was just two to four. Yeah,
it was two to four. Now it's four to six
week recovery, and coach Kevin O'Connell has been clear that
McCarthy won't play until he's had a full week of practice.
Of course, to this.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Point he hasn't returned in any capacity, not even on
a limited basis. That reality has led some to ray,
has led to some raised eyebrows around the league.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
A few have wondered whether Minnesota might.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Be hiding behind McCarthy's injury to buy more time after
the first year starter struggled.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
In Week two against the Falcons, and let's.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Not forget the first three quarters in Week one against
the Bears. I threw that in but O'Connell's track record
suggests otherwise. Since arriving in Minnesota, he's been transparent, steady,
and consistent when it comes to injury updates. Never the
type of play games for a competitive competitive advantage, which
is which is why questions about McCarthy's status cut against

(18:31):
the equity O'Connell is built he's taken the Vikings to
the playoffs, developed quarterbacks, and showed leadership that's earned him credibility.
For now, his focus is on capping a two week
European trip with a win over the Browns, and O'Connell's
earned the benefit of the doubt that when McCarthy's ready,
when he's had a full week of practice, and when
he's healthy, he'll be the starter. I've been told by
multiple sources that McCarthy isn't healthy, and while the target

(18:53):
return has been week seven against the Eagles, could still
be longer. I'm told nothing to see here, and oftentimes
when you're told nothing to see here, there's plenty see.
So she's just taking that face value that she believes
O'Connell and that he's earned this equity, and that could
very well be.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
But being.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Being transparent and forthright with injury discussions is different than
saying because all i've seen O'Connell say is well, when
he's healthy, you know we're not going to rush anything
when he's healthy, and you just serve we thought it
was two to four weeks now.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
This story says fo.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
To Syx's that's a time difference test that.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Well, that's exactly right now.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
It could very well be that if McCarthy is ready
to go against Philadelphia, he will start. I'm still not
so sure, and I don't think the coach needs to
make a decision on it right now. And if he
decides to stick with Wentz, that's goodbye me. If he
decides to go with McCarthy, you know, I got that text.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Message last week.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Someone thinks I'm like, I don't like McCarthy and I
think we should give up on him.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
That's what he's said, that's what he's.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Heard from what I've said, And all I'm saying is,
I'm just not convinced when you spend the kind of
money they did.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Do we have one of the most expensive.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Rosters in all the football and I think we have
one of the oldest, too, especially when we add a guy.
We added guys in the middle of the offensive in
the middle of the defensive line.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
And so when you're kind of saying we're all in
to win now, you got to go with who gives
you the best opportunity.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I'll tell you this, If McCarthy starts against the Eagles
and he's awful, he won't start again until the vikings
are out of contention. I guarantee you that, And if
you don't then that, then I think there could be trouble.
Then you have to face I know it's important for
this quarterback to succeed long term, for McCarthy or for
O'Connell and for Quasy. But if I'm one of these

(20:55):
veteran players that thought we're here to win now, and
you're sacrificing the possibility of winning games now to get
a kid experience, I think there could be.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I think there could be a little pushback there. Let's
take a break, come back. We got more to get to.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
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Thirteen fourteen pass Common Man Program tenna be You're familiar
with the game that's called the Initials Game.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
You're familiar with what the Initials Game call it correct.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, it was really big in Kansas City, I believe, at a.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Radio station there.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Are you familiar with the game called program Password? Yes,
I am, by the way, who won?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
What were the teams? And who won?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
It was myself and Nordo versus li'l By and John
Krasinski and Lilby and John Krasinsky got out to an
early lead by double digits, and Nordo and I came
by and sniped it at the end.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh really, yeah? So where's little Bee stand? As far
as in the two away from one hundred? How many
of my away?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Four or five something like that? Yeah, you still have
a check, You still a shot.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
I think it's four or five away something like that, four,
five or six just.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
In your mirror may be closer than they appear.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Are you familiar with another television or another show game show?
This would be a television show called to Tell the Truth. Yes,
it's an American game show where a panel of celebrities
questions three contestants, two of them whom are impostors, to
identify the one person telling you the truth about a.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Unique story or occupation.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
So, if we were going to do that, you would
have three different people stand up. You would have Mike
Zimmer stand up and say I'm the QB Whisperer. Then
you would have Kyle Shanahan's stand up and say I'm
the quarterback Whisperer. And then you have Kevin O'Connell's stand
up and say I'm the quarterback Whisperer. And then the

(23:25):
panel of celebrities would try to ask questions, would ask
questions of the contestants and see which one is telling
the truth and which is the impostor. I think it's
a little.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Up in the air. Who the real quarterback.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Whisperer is here in this town and nationally it's considered
Kevin O'Connell. I still haven't figured out why. I guess
he gets a lot of credit for uh Kirk Cousins
year he had here in the first year in o'conna,
I didn't think.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
You thought he was good in Washington, early stretcher.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
I didn't think he was. I think he was the
highest paid quarterback before Kevin O'Connell came around, or one
of them. I mean, he was considered a pretty good quarterback.
I don't think he got necessarily that much better past
or not came out of game and a half, really good.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Then he went in the tank. All the other quarterbacks
that he's that.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Have worked for him have been often with the exception
of Sam Darnald. Sam Donald had a terrific year and
he has picked up where he left off. He's been
spectacular this They should have been formed one. Did you
watch Did you see any of Tampa Bay I really

(24:52):
good game except if there.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Was no defense.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Was a rumor in the in the second half. I
don't think anybody touched the ball without scoring in the
second half. I think they were all tuddies. Remember when
I told you how much I like Baker Mayfield. He
is so much fun to watch. I'm not going to
declare him the best quarterback in football. I don't even
know if you could put him in the top ten.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
But he makes plays tennabye. He makes plays with his arms,
his feet. I like Baker Mayfield. I think you can
do a lot worse than Baker Mayfield. They ended up
winning that game late on a figie I think, and
defeated Seattle. And Darnald threw an interception late in the game,
but it's on him. He threw a pass and I

(25:32):
think hit the helmet of one of his offensive linemen
in Karen right to a Tampa Bay Tampa Bay guy,
so kind of a bad break. It wasn't like he
made a like he threw it in double coverage and
threw it right to it. Like how many did you
watch it? And you didn't see a the Lions game.
The Browning guy was simply there was a couple of
moments when he was good. He threw three interceptions right.

(25:52):
I don't know where he was throwing the football. He
was just absolutely awful yesterday for the most part, and.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Been awful three weeks in a row.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Was just yesterday and so But anyway, but I look
at the forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Jimmy Garoppolo was pretty good under Kyle Shanny.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
He was really good under Kyle Shann And after he left,
he's he out a league now is he's still backing
up somewhere.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
But he was really good.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
He helped take San Francisco to the postseason.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Matter didn't they get to an NFC championship. He's back
stafford in LA. Didn't Sam. Didn't Jimmy Garoppolo get San
Francisco to an NFC championship?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I feel like, yeah, they had some good teams.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
That's under Kyle Shanny. Garoppolo blossomed under Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
They went with.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
The fields character, right, they know who do they?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Who do they? Lance?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
They decided to go with Trey Lance and they realized
right away quarter whisper not this guy doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, so they abandoned it.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Shannon didn't let the ego of on quarterback whisperer guy
getting his way.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
They they they admitted a mistake.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
They gave up a lot of lot of capital to
get him. Then mister Irrell at brock Party, I think
he's got a three hundred million dollars contract right now,
two thirty eight or so. He's got a huge contract
right the brock Purty has turned int the bag.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
He got the bag.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
He turned into a really good quarterback under the tutelage
of Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
And I have to remind people of this all the time.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Sam Darnold, his stop before he came to Minnesota was
in San Francisco and he went to a big game
with Kyle Shanahan and the San Francisco forty and Brockert.
Now he didn't play, but he was in that quarterback room,
and he watched every day, day in day out for
an entire season. A big time National Football League operation works,

(27:57):
a good operation, and one that find and develop quarterbacks.
Donald comes here and give up give credit to Kevin O'Connell.
I'm not trying to take any credit. I know it
sounds like I am, and I guess I just think
it should be spread around more. I'm just not convinced
it's all one guy. Our quarterbacks coach is pretty good too.

(28:21):
And now Donald has picked up where he left off.
He's been very good so far for Seattle. They're now
I think three and two. They had that game in
the bag and they lost rock Perty's hurt. And I
named Mac Jones who was given up for dead as well.
Wasn't he drafted by the.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Patriots, jal He was the heir apparent to Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Fifteenth pick overall, and he was discarded by the Patriots.
By the way, when I told you I was really
interested in watching that Thursday night game, you told me
don't bother. You basically said it was gonna be a
route because San Francisco was missing all.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Sorts of play.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I doubted the quarterback whisper, you did the real quarterback Wesper.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Correct, because San Francisco won that game twenty six, twenty
three overtime.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Mac Jones's numbers thirty three for forty nine, three hundred
and forty two yards and two tuddies.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
And last I check that RAMS defense is really good,
I mean really good. So players play coaches, coach coaches ken.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Coach players up. But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Do I give the credit to mac Jones, Sam Darnold?
Do I give it to O'Connor, Do I give to Shanahan?
Is it a combination of all of that? I don't
know what to say.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
And Danny Jones, Danny Jones has been pretty darn good
since he left her with both they put points out
and again he didn't play here much under O'Connor, right,
he didn't. He was kind of right off. She didn't
play at all.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
He was even active, told like the playoffs right so
now is which they did just so they could get
a compensory draft pick for Is.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Is O'Connell getting the credit for Danny Dines too? I
mean maybe he should, but he's been really really good.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
So well.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
To your point, we always like to credit coaching for
a player's performance. And I think there are small incremental
percentages that a coach can add to a player. But
if a quarterback is succeeding on the field, that's nine
you know, I shouldn't say ninety five eighty percent of
that is the quarterback's performance. There are other variables in concluded,

(30:30):
which I was about to get to with the real
quarterback Whisper and Minnesota. The real quarterback Whisper and Minnesota
is not koc. It is Justin Jefferson. Because even yesterday
Carson Wentz put up good stats. Yesterday he played fine.
A lot of those passes to Justin Jefferson, most wide

(30:52):
receivers in the league aren't catching yeah, like he was
jumping up, turning his back about to get hit. Like
the balls not perfectly thrown to JJ.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
The best one he made is when he pirouetted in
the middle of the field and he didn't even stop.
He caught the ball and spun around and then was
facing downfield again and just took off for another few yards.
That was more impressive than the catch itself. The catch
was brilliant, but the way he kept his balance and
just spun around and just he didn't stop even for
a moment.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
It was brilliant, but he had a lot of those
were not perfect throws. JJ comes down with all of them,
and then you know some of them are just fifty
to fifty throws to him that most quarterbacks in the
NFL can throw. So it wasn't like Carson Wentz has
just some brilliant perform Now, the last drive Carson Wentz
is really good.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm not trying to take away from Carson.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
But my point is, what do all these quarterbacks that
have gone under the quarterback Whisperer and Koc had in common?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Here?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
They've all had Justin Jefferson as a wide receiver and
that helps it does indeed, I think here but to
my original point, a quarterbacks performance is mostly on him,
but there are other variables.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I do think.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
I think coaching can help a percentage of it. Yeah,
I think having great wide receivers can help a percentage
of it. Having a strong offensive line can help a
percentage of it. But too often, especially with Donald, because
he was bad elsewhere, we don't want to credit him.
It hadn't been someone else had gotten into Sam Donald's
head and figured out how to make that thing work. Yeah,

(32:21):
when maybe in just those previous destinations that Donald was
at all those percentages that we were talking about, the
wide receivers, the offensive line, the coaching, he didn't he
didn't get he didn't get that.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Elsewhere, someone else writes common Recently, Donald's asked who contributed
the most to his recent success.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
He didn't say KOs, he said with brock Purty.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Really yeah, that's well, that's again, this is what a
text messenger says from the three to two ohero. I
did not see that story, but I'm not going to
discount it either. And it's and the only reason I
keep harping on this is I just because I agree
with what you just said.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
It's eighty percent. It's I don't know, you give whatever
a percentage. I don't know the exact number. It's you
either have it or you that factor where you're able
to do it. And so often it's it's where you
are too.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
When when you're that young quarterback and you're drafted, you're
usually going to a terrible team in a terrible city
with terrible fans, and that's why.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
You're the number one pick overall, or you're you're drafted.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Like in in in In McCarthy's case, he was we
moved up to from eleven to ten, so he was tenth, right?
Was it five quarterbacks taken in the top ten or
four four? Or five quarterbacks taken in the top ten?
And the reason those teams are drafting that high unless
the team moves up to get them is because the

(33:47):
teams he's going to isn't very good and they don't
get really good overnight.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
By selecting a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
You still need protection, you still need playmakers, you still
need a a You do need a offensive coordinator that
has a good scheme. I like the play yesterday with Acres.
I love I love that kind of stuff. Like I
like coaches that are creative, that think out of the box.
Some people think gimmicky plays are for teams that if

(34:17):
they try to just do traditional offense, run it pass,
you know, you know, shotgun or seven step drop or
whatever the case may be. Well, it's because they're hiding deficiencies.
And that's true in some cases some teams have no
other option but to try trick oration. But it's not
like that's what the Vikings need to do. Now, maybe
with the offensive line they need to create a little
bit more time and do some things different. But they

(34:37):
got playmakers, and but I like plays. It totally caught
me off guard when Acres got the ball out he's
running it.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I didn't think.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
It's actually smart to do too, right, because now if
you want to run and it doesn't doesn't have to be
Acres necessarily, but if you want to run your running
back making that play. Now, teams in the future go, well,
this possibly a pass year and I can't be as
aggressive on the run. Like it's just smart football, not
even trick football exactly. It's smart using the talents of
all your players, which is what you should do.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
That is correct. And so I think the coach we
have here.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
He's he's good, he's got a bright future.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
I like him.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
I just sometimes wonder because here's the other thing I fear,
other than fear itself, is I like that is do
these coaches start to believe the headlines that they read
about them. He's the quarterback, and you starts thinking, God,
maybe I am really good at this, Maybe I can

(35:33):
take anybody in tournament too something. So you know what,
I will pass on Darnold, Oh, pass on Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,
we feel like we're ready to win now, and we've
just spent boatloads of money. As a matter of fact,
someone when I asked if the Vikings we're spending the most.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Money, someone sent me.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
A text message and said that where the heck did
it go?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Was?

Speaker 4 (35:57):
It was regarding something Seaffert said. I think Seaffert said
that the Vikings. Here's what it says. He goes, I
think severts and the Vikings are number one in the
league in cash spending this season, like three hundred and
twenty five million. So when you're all in financially and
you rebuilt the two week spots and you're in to

(36:19):
win now, you win fourteen games last.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
You're not going six and eleven and developing a quarterback. No, no,
And so you know, and I hope McCarthy's the guy.
I hope he is. And it's and.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
And let's reiterate, I don't think either of us is
giving up on him, not in any way shape us
for him. You looked at that fourth quarter against the Bears.
That was really good, and that was that was mostly
on him. He made some great decisions, some great throws.
He's he's got a lot of talent.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
But the offenses look different, Carson Wentz. Yeah, exact more professional.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yes, And so if you if you're in it for
for for now, and that's why you know, people will
say yeah, but you know you don't want to you know,
you know if you sit him on the bench now,
might make him annoyed. Well, guess what Aaron Rodgers sat
on the bench for three years behind far if he
was already annoyed because remember when he didn't get selected
by San Francisco his favorite team, You know how Wentz
watched went to Vikings games, and that was his favorite

(37:15):
teams where he's living up North Dakota. It was the
same thing with Rogers. San Francisco was his club. They
showed that clip a couple thirteen, fourteen hundred times where
they asked him what he was. He goes, well, something,
I remember exactly what it was. He goes, well, I
just want to show San Francisco they made a mistake.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I not draft him. He wanted to go to San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
And then he turned into he's he's a surefire first
ballot in Adam's Hall of.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Famer with four MVPs and one big game, and.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
So he had to say so he was already annoyed there,
and then he had to sit for three years behind far.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
You can't make decisions based off of a player could
be exactly every player you sit over something, you know
somebody else that player is going to get annoyed, exactly.
You cut someone from your roster, they get annoyed. And
Adam Feelin's probably annoyed that he played like ten plays yesterday.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Well that's another one. Where is theeling?

Speaker 4 (38:02):
I mean, other than he's on the team, I get that,
but I mean, uh, and you know what I think.
When you and I discussed it, I didn't have a
problem bringing it backcause they needed somebody.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I would have done it.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Addison's up for three games, but I still I was
skeptical of what he had left. And and I don't
know if his lack of productivity is just not being targeted,
if he's just not what he used to be, if
he's not part of the game plan.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
But he's been nearly invisible right Yes, I mean he's
a non factor. He's a non factor right now, and
I did not see that coming. And whether that continues
or not remains to be for also chunks of the season.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
The offense in general hasn't been good, so that's going
to affect your you're receiver stats, and of course JJ
is gonna gonna get his always he's been the number
one target.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
But yeah, here, here's any.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Need Jones suck for the Giants, came here, has been
playing well with the quotes Colts. So apparently this text
message of thinks that's all because.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
He had to stop here.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
He was here for what four games, and that four
games of watching and working under O'Connell's tournament into this
kind of but maybe it is.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Another one says O'Connell, also whispered Danny dimes for a
short time, he's looking pretty good lately.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
All right, okay, we altho weishould play j McCarthy next game.
Well that's what I think, right, because it's slam dunk.
He's going to be great the rest of that.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
That's why I just again I I I guess all
of this is. And look, and I'll say it again.
If they decide to go with with McCarthy against Philadelphia,
I hope he's brilliant.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I hope the.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Time away his ankles healed watching a little bit more good.
Game plan goes in and just carves up the Eels
because look, I don't I think you'll struggle against the
Philly lost y yesterday. I'm not even sure how they
lost that game. And I was watching parts of it.
It just didn't seem like that was a game the
Eagles were going to lose. The Broncos, I think do

(40:09):
have a good defense. That's a good club. It was
a Broncos. They lost it, right because I want part
of it. But that's a game you sort of expected
Philadelphia to win. And so but as we talked about earlier,
when you know ESPN was doing the old which is
the most you know, disconcerting loss was it was it
the Eagles losing or the Bills losing.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
It's like, well, that just happens in the NFL. Clubs lose.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
How many undefeated teams that we had over the years,
we don't have them very often. Teams are going to
lose regular season games. The margin for air is very
small in the league, and teams are even the mediocre
teams can rise up and play well occasionally, and I
hope Macarthy can do it, but I I and you know,

(40:52):
look to the point of a lot of the text
messengers last week, there's really nothing I've seen from the
Vikings in the first there's five games that leads me
to believe I want to start planning that parade route.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I think we're winning a big game, you know. I
mean it's because they haven't been.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
You know, there's been other teams where you look at
and you go, man, like the Lions lately last four
weeks have just looked. They had another mediocre game yesterday
and they they that score.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Was closer than the game indicated. They were up twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
You know what they did. Kurt Menafee came on and said,
we're going to a more competitive game. They left the
Lions Bungles game at twenty eight three. They knew it
was over. I Bungles scored a couple of make it close,
but they never got to within eleven. Here's the thing
I was I was getting annoyed with at first Hennebee.
So the Lions game was being showed locally, so it
was blocked out on.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
YouTube TV. Is it YouTube TV? Sure?

Speaker 4 (41:47):
But with that as a Sunday ticket, they go to
the other game. So I go to YouTube TV and
it's still blacked out, and I'm like, now, wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, you can't do it, but you know what.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
It took a couple of minutes, but all of a
sudden it was back on on YouTube team. So they communicated,
well I didn't, and I was, well, I considered it,
but then I thought I knew the outcome of the
game wasn't in doubt at that point. Even though Bungles
scored a couple of they came back, but it was
still one of those games where you still.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
They were eleven. Yeah, they was down eleven. There was so.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
But I like where the vikings are situated right now,
and it's you know, it's a good problem to have
when you say, we got a quarterback of the future
eventually going to be ready to play again, and he
had that one brilliant quarterback, and you got a veteran
guy who looked pretty good and he's you've won games
with with with with a a makeshift offensive line.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
It's Ramshackle.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I mean, you got third string, You got a guy
that had never played center before snapping the ball in
in in a game against a good.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Defense, and he wasn't your biggest worry. It wasn't your
biggest worry.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
That's exactly right. And the Miles Garrett character. They did
a nice job with him, you know, they know they
did ship a lot and double the That.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Was the best case scenario for the first case scenario.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yes, it was really good.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
The did we have two fumbles, yes, Mason Xavier Scott.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
And then you know, so the the hanging on to
the football and then the the lack of run defense
until that last drive when they stopped the Browns twice
in a row.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Of course, that was again where you knew the Browns
were going to run. Of course you should have known.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
They were running before because they were runing. They were
running rough, shot over you. But we stopped them for
like a one yard gain and no gain and then
the incomplete pass.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
We got the ball back and then Wentz brought him
down the field with the hip of Addison and Jets
and they won the game. So week off. Now we'll
see what happens after that. It's been controversial. Let's take
a break, come back with more. Uh, we've got tickets
to give away. You had two to flop swint and
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