October 16, 2025 • 37 mins
Common Man Hour 3 -- Reminisce with Rosen -- 2005 Twins -- Twins Manager Search -- Vikings QB Situation
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
All right, welcome back to the TenneT with Gerald, Mark
Rose in here, Devin with us as well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Rosie. Was it yesterday?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We had the Koc press conference where he was very
not want, very zimmer like, not wanting to talk about
the quarterback situation. I want to answer it. Do you
feel like we got a little bit of clarity yesterday
just because JJ McCarthy still listed as limited, I limited
more than clarity, I think. I think it's as clear
as day that Wentz is going to start. Yeah, I mean,
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the conversation ends when they say J. J. McCarthy's not
one hundred percent. When JJ McCarthy says, I'm the one
hundred percent. So the dynamics of whatever Koc had in
his mind and wanted to have him ready by this game,
it's a moot point. I mean, because whether he was
ready using air quotes or not to get out there,
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which of course he was at the beginning of the season,
it's all eliminated. You're not gonna put your guy out
there when he's not one hundred percent in a high
ankle spring, and that's that's indeed, what he had is
I don't think you'll play this week. I don't think
I'll play against the Chargers in a short week. Maybe
he'll come back against the Lions and Detroit. We'll see
how it all flushes out, as they say, But when
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you don't have a healthy guy that's already been dealing
with injuries, I mean from a year ago, hasn't had
a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Of practice time. That's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's not like, well, we're just gonna put him out there,
because no he I mean, for me, from earlier in
the week to where we are today, it's day and night.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I just.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Shocked to be an understatement if JJ McCarthy runs out there,
unless he, you know, makes a miraculous recovery. I guess
we'll find out all maybe snippets about what happened to
practice today on a Thursday. But he's not going full go,
you know. I know he's been practicing, which is a
good sign, and he's getting better, which is a good sign.
But I think that you know, the whole discussion, and
Wentz has been playing, you know, obviously he finished for
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the Flurry in his last game, and the Vikings have
had a break, the Eagles had ten days off. I
think the bigger news, honestly, and we concentrate so much
on the quarterback position, especially with what's been going on here,
but the fact that Donovan Jackson's coming back, I mean,
this guy's been a stud what a great draft pick
on that Ohio State rich Lineman class hopefully getting I
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asked you during the break, is Brian O'Neill coming back?
I mean, which would be a little bit of a
surprise considering the what looked like a really serious d injury.
Getting a full game potentially out of Christian Darsaw. I mean,
he's been on that so called pitch count and now
it sounded like choc was also saying, and Darrisaw said
that I'm ready to rock and roll basically the whole game,
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and then add you know, throwing. Obviously, the big addition
of Blake Cashman on defense and the possibility of Van
Ginko returning, those collectively are almost I think bigger stories.
It's not as sexy as who's going to play quarterback? Well,
you can almost put that to bed right now and
saying is a football team. The Vikings will be appreciably
better this week than they were in their European games.
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With the addition of those guys Jackson had the Risser surgery,
he was out and he's been playing awfully well. And
then they have some depth now, some guys that can
play the center.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's you don't even hear his name anymore. I mean,
I can only imagine Ryan Kelly and the number of
concussions he's had. It's it's almost I'm not you know,
you could throw in the term career threatening and it's
you know, I hope it's not that's the case.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But when you see these parts to think about it, yeah,
he's I.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Mean from a family standpoint, in his own personal health,
and we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
But I mean they, you know, like anybody any other team,
you have to just kind of fix that. But I
think the offensive line in particular, when they I think
they have to run the ball, you know, you know,
consistently to at least get get Wentz off the you know,
second and nine and the third and eights, to have
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you know, Mason and you know, since uh Jones isn't
back for another week, you know, you got you got
to put them in a position where you're you're in control,
You're it's a manageable down in distance for the Vikings
and because that's where the Eagles can really get you.
Like a lot of teams, you're third and nine all
the time, you're not gonna win football game.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Obviously, there are still guys that aren't on the injury report,
right because Aaron Jones is not on the report, as
you just mentioned Ryan Kelly. But of the guys that were,
there were no d nps yesterday. And then that's for
a Wednesday practice, right. Sometimes you get the more Wednesday
and they improve as you go along. But as you mentioned,
Donovan Jackson limited with a wrist injury, Brian O'Neil limited
with a knee injury.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
J J.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
McCarthy limited with the ankle injury, Andrew van Ginkel limited
with the neck injury.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Brian Cashman full go. That's the other part of this.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We focus on the offense, but defensively for a team
that has struggle, guns to run and you're gonna be
playing Did I say, Blake Cashman?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
What did I say? What did you said? Brian?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh, I'm sorry it's Blake. Yeah think wait night. Brian
Cashman used to be the GM for the New York Yankees.
The Yankees cash and cash Out apologize for saying that
right name question myself. But for a team that has
struggled against the run this season, and I'm assuming Philadelphia's
got despite the fact that they've struggled to sake on Barkley,
I still think they're going to want to be a
run first offense. With Jalen hurtson to get Cashman back
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and potentially Van Ginkel back, I think could be huge
on that side of the ball as well.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Well, yeah, absolutely, I mean it's it's odd when you
start looking at these stats. You know, the six games
into this thing, the Eagles are still four to two.
They ranked third worse than the NFL in total yards.
That's shocking. Barkley, who ran for over two thousand yards
last year in twenty twenty four, hasn't come yeah that
was last year, hasn't come close to a one hundred
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yard game yet. Think about that. How is that possible?
The guy like that Hurts is not. You know, they
got the AJ Brown drama and both those guys and
DeVante DeVante Smith both had one thousand yard receivers. They've
also been upset about the things going on. Their Pro
Bowl right tackle Lane Johnson ripped the predictability of their
off offense. So they've been you know, they've had some
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time and they're fiery. Coach Nick Sirianni, I'm sure, has
been pushing all the right buttons and telling them, you
know that, you listen, we've got to get this corrected.
We've got to get it corrected now. So it's it's
gonna be an interesting matchup of of what perceived to
be strength against strength, the Tush push versus the Vikings
interior defense. Hopefully won't come to that, but you know,
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I think you know, listen, we all know what the
Vikings love to do. They still love to throw the football,
and that's why I think on those you know, to
get themselves in a situation they're second and fourth and
then you become less predictable, and those are the times
where you know what what JJ can do, justin Jefferson
can do, and what Addison can do, and what you
know Wentz has been able to do as he did
on that last drive. And now you got an offensive
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line that hopefully will give him the time to to
throw those passes that you know, to keep the change
moving and keep the Eagles off the field.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Right, we went a little along with spread swings. We're
going to break a break now. Why that happens? Well,
when people aren't listening to the segment, it takes a
lot longer to get through it. Mark Rosen will continue
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Speaker 1 (07:46):
All right, welcome back to the ten, Fitzgerald, Mark Rosen
with me. Common'll be out tomorrow as well. We will
now play program password tomorrow, but Common we'll return on Monday. Devin,
I need you to do me a favor. I need
you to give me a number.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh boy, you're.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Between zero and twenty four or seventy and ninety nine,
somewhere in one of those two ranges five five, and
then I'd like to pick a sport football, hockey, baseball,
or basketball, baseball, baseball?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All right, Mark Rosen, Oh no, what are you doing
to me?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's time now for random reminiscing with Rose.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Today thanks to Devin and we are going to reminisce
about the two thousand and five Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That year they finished eighty three and seventy nine, third
in the American leagues. Pretty typical. General manager was Terry Ryan.
I'm looking at stats here, So catcher was Joe Mauer.
He had two ninety four for nine home runs just.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Two thousand five. That was a non descriptive year for
the Twins. Got most of them.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
They had a couple of early years that was yeah,
because they had the run right in two and three,
two thousand and four they made the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Then and then two thousand and six was.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
One of the best Minnesota Twins teams I've seen, and
that was when Lariano and Santana were.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Just every day you had like two aces. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But on the two thousand and five team, you had
a Nick Punto as your second baseman who apparently might
be in the mix for the Twins.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Manager was Jason Bartlett at shortstop.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Michael Kadier was your third baseman, Shannon Stewart, Tory Hunter,
Jacques Jones. Where you're in the outfield, Matt Lee, Croy
and d h You have lou Ford, Juan Castro coming
off the bench, Michael Redman, Luis revas So, your starters, Radkey, Santana,
Kyle Loch, Joe Mays.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And Carlos Silva.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Your bullpen Macarrere, j c Ramiro, Jan Rancone, Joe Nathan,
Jesse Crane, Terry mulholland your thoughts on the two thousand
and five Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I mean, they had some good You just rattled off
a bunch of real the good baseball players. So just
they weren't a great baseball team that year. As you mentioned,
most of those guys were part of a team teams
that were much more competitive before that. And of course,
when I covered the when the Twins played in New
York the old Yankee Stadium, when Santana won, I think
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he won that first game, was pitching so well, and
all the New York writers, I remember, all they cared
about asking Santana was, well, when you know, basically, when
you come in to New York, why are you wasting
your career in Minnesota? And they weren't even trying to
hide it, and Santana handled it diplomatically, but deep down
you kind of knew he wasn't going to be staying
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in Minnesota for the rest of his career. And of
course he end up going to the Mets, but you know,
it was painfully obvious that, you know, the flyover existence
that a lot of Minnesota sports teams have when you
when you go to New York, you really feel it
when you're in when you're in a position of being
a superstar kind of pitcher, as Santana was during that time,
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and all the are just going, Okay, you know, I
don't have a little fun right now kicking it around,
but you're coming to New York and whether it would
be the Yankees of the Mets, and that's.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What I recall.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I don't remember a lot about that particular year, sorry
to disappoint you. I mean, you just kind of rattled
it off of eighty.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Three of all the years in two thousands, it was
kind of one of the more forgettable season.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It was the other ones were and they were fun
there by the way.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Do you remember, though, the team that won the World
Series that year you were a two thousand and five,
your Chicago White Sox. They swept the Houston Astros. Yeah,
in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I remember that, you know, the one I remember the
most about the White Sox, you know, with Twins and
the White Sox of course, with the Piranhas and Ozzie
Gian And the one game I remember more than any
was at Game one sixty three when Jim Tolmy was
playing for the White Sox and you hit a home
run I think the ninth inning or tenth ninth inning
and beat the Twins and won nothing. It was a
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tremendous baseball game, but you know, catapulted the the Socks
into the playoffs and kicked the Twins out of there.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
That was.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It was a dramatic game, much the way that the
Twins had when they beat the Tigers here in that
extra game when Carlos Gomez scored the game winning run.
But yeah, again, those earlier years were I mean see
and this sort of fast forward to today's team and
what you're looking at. But those teams, no, they didn't
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win a World Series, but they were they were very competitive.
They want a bunch of divisional titles. But you just
rattle off those names. They had big personalities on that team.
They just did up and down the lineup I mean
with Tori and aj Prazinski and and and uh, you
know obviously you know.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Kadaire. I mean, all those guys were entertaining. They were
fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And you look at today's team and you know, Royce
Lewis has a big personality, but he hasn't unfortunately being
able to back it up and stay on the field.
Buxton is more of a quiet, you know, kind of
guy that he gets, you know, and he does the
train the Locomotive tribute to his dad and it's a dinger.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's about it. That's otherwise they lost the rand and
his entrance him a huge.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Moment, huge entertainment value beyond being a really a real talent.
But that's the and that's what's missing, and that you know,
it's just I don't know how they're going to ever
get that back.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But uh, you know, Punto to come back and be
the man and bring back the Piranhas.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
But that was fun. I mean, people enjoyed. They didn't
have to be the Yankees, they didn't have to be
you know, the Red Sox at that time, but they were.
They were, you know, they were a good baseball team
and they enjoyed it. And the fans responded to him,
and that's something that's so far from where we are
at right now.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That's, by the way, Devin was three during the season.
He was three years old. Well, he's just he has
no idea the players. Who's Joe Mauer, He says, he
didn't really say that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I think he was good, right, Well, I mean you
don't have to you can be a certain age. You
can still. I'm sure he's a sports fan. He's right, Devin.
I mean, you know, I knew.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Who Harmon Killibrew was, even though I didn't watch Harmon
kilber An Other interesting other interesting notes of the two
thousand and five Major League Baseball season. It was notable
for the league's new steroid policy in the wake of
the Bualco scandal the ball, which enforced harsher penalties than
ever before for steroid use in Major League Baseball. Several players,
including veteran Rafael Palmero, was suspended under the new policy.
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Other interesting things. That was the first year that we
had a baseball team in Washington, d c. Since the
Senators played their nineteen seventy one So that's when the.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Nationals moved there from Montreal.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And the most important thing in two thousand and five
is that the Anaheim Angels changed their name to the
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's big.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I like it better than of the California Angels. They
had the whole state behind him. They did.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
They were called the California y Rod Carup played for
him than during that time they were the California Angels. Yeah,
a lot has changed, and it's still amazing when you know,
we watched the Dodgers, but the billions of dollars that
they're worth and how much money they spent on their payroll,
to me, it's still a shocking really and a testament
I guess the longevity of the brand. They're playing in
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the same ballpark that they did when they moved from Brooklyn.
I mean, Chavez Ravine has been there forever, and it's
just a it's it's an awful place to get out of.
I was watching, you know, the other game, and the
Dodgers think were blowing them out the other night, right
when they and people leave there like in the fifth
or sixth inning just to try to beat the traffic.
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I mean, it's just it's and for good reason, because
if you get stuck in that and that those lanes
and getting out of that ballpark. I hope you, as
they say, pack a lunch because or don't have to,
you know, go to the bathroom because you're not going
to make it. It's just an hour and a half,
two hours to get out of there.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So I know we didn't land down the two thousand
and six Minnesota Twins. We landed on the two thousand
and five Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I do quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I feel like the two thousand and six Twins, right,
I had been working with Common at that point, I'd
heard Common do the pole ads, penny pinching bit, blah
blah blah blah blah. Two thousand and six was the
first season as a fan that I thought, Man, these
guys are never going to spend money, do something at
the trade deadline. Because that was a team. Like I said,
there was a stretch there in that summer right where
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Johann Santana and Francisco Ariano you had, you had a
Radke as your third pitcher. I mean, that's how that's
how good your starting vitation. Those two were unbeatable. They
went on a stretch where they won thirty four or
forty two games and they finished the season with ninety
six and sixty six.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, and they did basically.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Nothing at the MLB Terry trade down, Like, if you're
not going to go all in with this team when
you had you know, and you had them ours and
the more Nose and they were hitting in Kadai or
that was the first moment where like there is something
to this common talking about the Polads aren't just they're
never going to spend money or make a big acquisition
at the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, and that it was too bad in my opinion,
hasn't changed in the Twins won ninety six games. That
you're in you're thinking, well, this is the one of
the few times they don't have to play the Yankees
right away. The Yankees were number one seed, but they
were I'm just looking it up right now. They were
hosting Detroit. Detroit was the wild card and the Twins
were hosting the Oakland A's. Yeah, and the Twins got
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great starts from Santana. And remember the course, good old
boof bonser Uh. They lost game one. I'm looking it up.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I score three the iniatory Hunter air in the center field.
Remember that ball game defense? I remember that's the only
thing I remember about that that just killed them. They
never they never led in any game in the series.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Santana won the cy Young.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
That was.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
That was shocking because of that. Well, they're going to
at least punch their ticket to play the Yankees. Uh
getting past Oakland. Oh, what a sy of relief. They
don't have to play the Yankees the first round.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That was.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That was a really good baseball team that won ninety
Santana won the si Young that year. Yeah, morneaut won
the MVP.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Maher became the first American league catcher to win the
Major League Baseball Batting Ground And we like basically stood
patted the trade of the line and like, well since
to this day, like I'm that was one of the
best Twins team since nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That was the best Twins team I've seen. Yeah, that's
when I mean we didn't go all in. No, they
did not.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I mean I'm looking at their bench that they had,
you know, with you know, the micro Redmonds of the
world and Kobal and Shannon Stewart. That was a big
trade they made. I mean for them, it was a
big trade in the year. Yeah, years before then, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
When they picked him up.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
But the rest of them were you know, Casilla and
Luis Rodriguez, I mean, you know, I don't know. And
then they had you mentioned the pitchers that were were
there even you know, Kyle Losch's of the world. But
you know, Nathan was thirty six saves, one point nine
five eight e r a U. Pat Nishek was pitching
really well at the time. Perkins got in about four games.
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But yeah, those were they were again, big personalities, successful team.
When you win ninety six games, you're doing something right.
But they just were never able to capitalize it. You said,
they couldn't make that trade or wouldn't make the trade
to maybe push him over the top. And that's that's
been kind of the signature where the Twins franchise has been.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
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Speaker 2 (19:19):
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Speaker 1 (19:19):
We can also talk wild go for football, continue with Vikings,
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Rose in next segment. The text so far at the
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Bradshawn Brian kfan text line at six four six eight
six O Twins related that's surprise thus far. One texter says,
what does ROSI think the next Twins manager needs to
do to try and turn this team around.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Go into Joe Paul D's office and ask him to
give him a blank check and just say, here's here
are the players that I need to try to win
at least in this division. Let's just start with that.
To play catch up with Detroit Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I mean, it's it's going to be a plumb job
for I mean, some of the names you've heard, and
you mentioned Nick Punto's name, you know, popular Twins players,
and it's going to be a good job for someone
who takes it because they're gonna obviously get a nice
boost and pay and an opportunity to manage a big
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ley cub and probably with very little pressure on him.
But we've said that about you know, Paul Balder probably
gonna have job security for a lot while a little
bit anyway, because you can't. I mean, if you're the
you know whatever is I don't know how fractured the
Twins ownership is, and hiring someone it kind of falls
on deaf ears, that's all.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You're gonna have a news conference and introducing you know,
the Nick Punto's or whomever it's going to be, Derek Shell,
you know, just name a name and then you know
the baseball writers will be there and they'll ask them,
you know, how are you going to win with this roster?
What assurances do you have from management that you're going
to try to improve this baseball team? Yeah, we know
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you got a great farm system on paper, second in
the in Major League Baseball. Apparently they're not that's that's
not filling out your lineup card next year is not
going to matter.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And when it comes to that, stat great to have that.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But you know, right now, looking at the teams that
are still standing, you know what Toronto and Seattle have
done a particularly American league, the Dodgers in a whole
different rarefied air. But you know those teams have are
have done it, you know, through building their own franchise,
their own players, and also adding a few. So I
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don't know, I don't. I think that the more than
any other sport. I think probably is the least effect
on wins and losses. They can win x number of games,
maybe lose a couple with some strategic things or you know.
I know a lot of people, and I never said
that Rockoball Delhi was the perfect manager.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Far from it.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean, he made plenty of mistakes to drive me crazy,
pulling pitchers.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Early, I think, and.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Doing other things. But I don't he wasn't the reason
why they, you know, ended up where they were. He
can't throw pitches, he can't swing the back. No, And
I was reading something about the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I don't know if this is true or not that
a lot of the pitchers we're seeing right now that
they held back a lot of their starters pitched under
one hundred innings this year, and then they're unleashing them
in the postseason or right before that. That's pretty scary
to see. You know, again the depth and the just
the sheer talent level that they have in that pitching staff,
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and they and they're supposed to have problems in the
back end of the relievers. They don't have the you know,
the traditional great closures that they've had over the years. Anyway, Yeah,
I did. I don't know what they're going to do.
Text it said, Honestly, who is going to want the
Twins job?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
There?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
There's no money looking forward now, I get it, and
I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think to your point, there's only thirty mL be
manager positions.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Anyone who's getting.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
That job is likely coming from a different coaching position
where this is going to be a I get it,
it's the Twins, but it's still gonna be a significant
pay raise.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's still gonna be opportunity.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I do get the trepidation of right, if there's somebody
who has options of, hey, I can get this job here,
I get this job there, I can see you picking
them over the Twins because it is going to be
hard to believe how is this team going to be
turning this thing around in the next couple of years,
Because I don't I don't see a situation where they're
investing money back into the team.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
No, I mean, and they have on paper, they have,
they'll they'll have they have a come like three or
four guys that I think that will be a part
of this team in the next year, year and a half.
I mean even probably starting right after spring training. They
have to they have to bring up some guys that
are you know, traditionally wouldn't be in the major league
roster just yet. And forgetting the old arbitration thing. But
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I mean, I know I've been, you know, pounding the
bricks about the guy who's been hurt a little, you know,
dealing with some injuries. But Walker Jenkins is a perfect
example of that. I mean, they drafted when he was
drafted and just a world of talent on paper. I
don't want to wait three years to watch him another year.
I mean, I know he did suffer some setbacks injury wise,
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almost like JJ McCarthy, but that's a perfect Culpepper is
another one. I think the kid's name is a shortstop.
These guys who got to start playing for them. If
they're capable of playing a double A, they're capable of
coming up here and learning the ropes at the major
league level. I would rather as a fan watch those
guys play. I mean, I guess you could go to
Saint Paul and watch If they're over there, then go,
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you know, go over to Saint Paul and watch them
play for the Saints. But they need to be here
and need to be here soon, and you don't have
any other options. You want to try to sell some
hope and also get these guys an opportunity to develop
in the major league players.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Ryan and Michigan says, guys, I have a more simplistic
take on the Vikings quarterback Ordeal Okay, Wentz will play
until he has a very poor performance. That's if Wentz
looks solid, there will always be a reason JJ isn't
quite ready your thoughts. That's kind of been my take
this entire time when we've been having this discussion of
Winz or McCarthy. I think you give Onz another game now.
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I think once has been solid. I don't think he's
been great. I think he's just been solid. He was
great the last drive, But you kind of take it
game by game. If he doesn't perform well and you
lose against Philadelphia, then it's easy to go back to JJ.
If he keeps performing well, and the team's winning. You know,
Carson Wentz is not a thirty eight year old quarterback. Like,
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there's still a possibility, Like Carson Wentz is your quarterback
for the next five six years, right, I mean of
the Sam Darnold ilk and the Kirk Cousins ilk.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right, you could still win with those types of quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Think about who is not over Think about who he's
playing here on Sunday and who the quarterback was who
won the Super Bowl here at us Bank Steal His
name was Nick Foles. What happened to that guy? Yeah,
he had his moment in the sun. So I mean, yes,
it can happen. We've seen it happen a number of times.
I don't the thing with McCarthy and the ankle and
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then his development or lack thereof at this point, I
just to me, it's not even an argument that can
be had.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You drafted the guy to be your franchise quarterback. He
is going to play, end of story, when he's healthy enough.
They're not holding him back. He would have started the
season if they were going to hold He has to play.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
He has to.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
He has to fight through some stuff, and that's just
a development whether you're I've seen every successful quarterback.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Doesn't he have to play if you're in a playoff Chase, Well,
I don't agree he has to play.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Well, it doesn't have to play, depending on how you
identify that, and if he's healthy, I think that decision
will be made long before the playoff Chase really officially
kicks in in December, if you want to call it that.
I just think that when he's healthy enough to play
and he gets a good cup, a good practice weeknd.
I mean that's the problem. He's been so much time
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compared to all the other quarter the young quarterbacks were
drafted last year, missing all of last year when he
really wasn't almost even allowed to do anything in the
facility other than going to meetings.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's sent him back a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
So I don't know my judgment on JJ McCarthy is
an NFL quarterback and you got to puff the brakes
and just wait and see. But how Koc handles it,
and we heard, you know, his sharpness with the quick
question about is he going to play and the way
he answered, I'm gonna get myself all wound up about that.
I mean, I'm sure he's tired of answering it. But
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you know he's he's committed to him and the franchise
has committed to him. Otherwise I would have they would
have let Donald. Yeah, but you know, you know Rose,
it's the NFL. You're committed. But this isn't till death
to us part. No, of course not if you have
someone that is produced. That's what I'm saying, Like Carson
Wentz right now has just been solid. If Carson, If
Carson Wentz goes out against.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Philadelphia on Sunday. Yeah, and this is is a hypothetical.
I know it's an if. If ifs or fist, we'd
all be drunk. If he throws twenty seven of thirty
four for three hundred and twelve yards, three touchdowns, new interceptions,
and the Vikings meet the Eagles by twenty four points.
We're not saying, well, you got to have a look
at JJ McCarthy. We're not saying that anymore. So there
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is still, like I said, it's not till death do
us part, that we got to see JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
There are well and he's going to play. I think
Wentz will play both.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I mean, forgetting anything else that happens in the game
on Sunday and then you play a short week next Thursday.
I can't imagine the JJ McCarthy's going to make his
return on a short week where he can practice basically
one full day and then play against the Chargers. You
really you're practicing a little bit today indoors. According to
Kevin Seaffert, all fifty three guys were out there today,
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so that's a good sign. Including again, like I said
to me, the bigger story at the moment is Andrew
van Ginkel. I mean, I think that guy makes that
defense go along with Cashman, and having both those guys
back will have a lot more to do with the
success of the Vikings on Sunday. The necessarily what Carson
Wentz's box score looks like. But yeah, I understand, of
course you're gonna You're not gonna bench him at that point,
(29:07):
but at some point he's not gonna have one of
those games, and I think it's gonna the decision will
be a lot easier for him to u.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'm not committed to Carson Wentz. You let him play
for a week, just see how he does, sure, and
then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
After all that matters.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
If Carson Wentz is brilliant, and JJ McCarthy is one
hundred percent next week. I think there's a reason you
can still go back to Carson Wentz.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That's all I'm saying, Yes you can, but there, yes,
there will be a time however that's identified. We've We've
had plenty of cases of looking around the league. I mean,
were young quarterbacks just have to sit and wait. Look
what the Packers have done all these years. I mean,
it's just there's been a rush. Who's been a rash
of these young quarterbacks have gotten out there, But a
lot of them have been a lot better in this
second year than they were last year when they played
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all last year. McCarthy didn't play it all last year.
Had he played last year, even some who knows what
they would have looked like was considering the way that
Sam Darnold was lighting it up, we would be having
a totally differ discussion. But you don't get those reps
in and he's you know, the judgment on McCarthy is
so far down the road right now, just it really
(30:09):
I can't hand that discussion yet.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'm gonna keep discussing it because we have some text messages.
That's fine. People want to know about.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm just going to read this the two that support me.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I kind of like it being in this chair where
I can just read the ones out loud that support
my take and the ones that there's plenty of them
that are disagreeing with me. Flim Flamm says the only
reason to play McCarthy is to evaluate him before signing
him to a second contract.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
We have three more three to four more seasons to
do that.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Wentz being the better option against the Eagles has nothing
to do with who plays quarterback the next decade.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Fans are insecure.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I also had brands right Anthony Richards in fifth overall pick,
and Colts weren't afraid to switch to Danny Diames, just
like the Vikings shouldn't have been scared of bringing him
in to compete with McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Biggest mistake made.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
In Ponder Era was being scared of bringing in any
real quarterback competition and being scared of ruining his confidence
and Spielman forcing his pick to be right, not wanting
to admit he made him a.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Well that ponder things a whole nother discussion. I wouldn't
put it in the same category or conversation with any
of these quarterbacks that you're just talking about right now.
Anthony Richardson thing was, yeah, I don't think anybody really
saw that coming, and good for them.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They had to move on.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
He also got hurt, but at that point they're going on.
Whether Anthony Richardson finds success somewhere down the line in
the NFL with another quarterback whisper remains to be seen.
I don't think he's played his last NFL game, but
we've seen situations when that's happened, and they're not all
going to.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Hit home runs.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
We watch a draft day and then guys come and
go in this league pretty quick. And even at the
quarterback position, if you have a great collegiate career, it
doesn't mean anything that you're going to transfer to the NFL.
But you know, for every Drake May, there's an Anthony Richardson,
there's a you know, look at Justin Fields. I look
at what years he in right now. The people think
(31:53):
that he's hit his ceiling now or.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
What is at this point, Well, that's right team number
three and still performing the same way. I think now
I shouldn't say that because you know, maybe if you
get if the quarterback. Westburg got ahold of them, right,
because we gave up on Baker Mayfield, and we gave
up on Sam Donald, we gave up on Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Well, when you say he gave up on Sam Donald,
the Vikings were in a situation where no, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Saying the Vikings game, I'm saying the general public right right,
Like he was on team number four by the time
he got to the Viking.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Same with Baker.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Baker Mayfield went from Cleveland, he started at Carolina, he
played a game on a random Thursday night for the Rams,
and then all of a sudden landed in Tampa Bay
MVP candidate.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So I guess, could Justin Fields have that his career.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I guess i'd be You got to be at the
right team, right situation, and you got to have the
right makeup, and you know the hard to identify all
those things coming together at the same time.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I love this guy. You are very confusing.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Carson Wentz is won and one in his last two games,
and we would have lost last week if he didn't
have a very good last rive. I wrote, nice cherry picking.
He's two and one in his last three starts, like
he just changed, and then he comes back at me
and he's won and one in his last two starts,
and he's on his last start, right.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
And let's let's go back to my original premiss all,
what what I'm more excited about than having this discussion
over and over and over again, which is fine to do,
the fact that the Vikings offensive line is going to
be completely re bolstered.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
This, Yes, I mean that is what's going quarter right.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Carson Wentz got buried the other night, the other game too,
and that's shouldn't happen. When when you have Darrisaw playing
every every series, and and you got Donovan Jackson back,
and you got O'Neill back. That's a that's a hell
of an offensive line all of a sudden, those guys
stay healthy and he can run the ball, He can
do a lot more things that a veteran quarterback like
Carson Wentz can take advantage of it. I like watching
Carson play. I don't think he's a liability at all.
(33:51):
I mean, I think he's got a lot of moxie.
He's figured things out, he's been through it. He understands
that that what his limitations are. And you know, he's
the Vikings are fortunate they have them on you know,
pick them up off the scrap heep, as they say,
get them on the team, and that's that's good, fortunate
compared to some of these other teams that are looking
around going we don't have a quarterback at all. I mean,
(34:13):
look at Cincinnati. Oh they got Joe, the two forty
year olds going at it tonight. Yeah, the Jared All
the Jared's Ball Bowl Howl.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Ay, Roger, You're not here tomorrow, So i'd like to
get your opinion on Gophers Nebraska. You got a number
twenty five team coming in the Huntington Bags Stadium.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I just can't stop thinking about the way that Perdue
rammed the ball against the Gophers in the first half
last week, and they were their own worst enemy. You know,
all the you know, the turnovers, and kudos to the
Gophers for making that happen, But the basics of the game,
the ex's and o's, and if you know, if you're
in Nebraska and you're Matt Ruhle and you're looking at
that tape and you're going, Okay, line them up, We're
going after him over and over and over again. So
(34:55):
unless the Gophers can figure out a way somehow to
have bolster that defense, to line the defensive front, and
I don't know how they're gonna Nebraska's a good football team.
They're not a great, great football team, but they're a
very good football team. And I'd be surprised if Minnesota can.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
We need to win games like this occasionally. Right, they're
not on games. They're not an elite team. They're a
quality team. We've got them at home.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
They in the.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Agree.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
The Nebraska games, Iowa games, Wisconsin of course is a
total mess right now. Uh, those are games that are
on your schedule. They were fortunate, but you know they
won the game. They beat produe they don't have to
excuse you know, excuse it. But this is one that
you're right when you're all of a sudden, you're eight
point underdogs at home on a Friday night, and that
place is going to be rabid with with Cornhusker fans tornight.
(35:45):
This is going to be an exciting I mean, it's
it's gonna be as they say, it's gonna be a
fun atmosphere between the football game going on over there
and uh, Sir Paul McCartney over at US Bank Stadium,
and whatever else is going on, and it's going to
be a lot of fun this and then the Vikings
of course playing on. I thought I was going to
go from McCarthy to McCartney, McCartney to McCartney McCarthy. Yeah,
(36:06):
I just didn't work out quite the way I was
hoping to twist this whole weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
But yeah, good about forty seconds where you out with
the Wilder right now, they're two and two of their
game two of their five ym road trip tomorrow night
in Washington.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I mean, that's so early, and I you know, I
heard real quick. I heard the box of the vox
Alan roach on with Pa today and he does the
Colorado Avalanche as well, and he starts rattling off all
those names with McKinnon and ca car and you go,
can the wild compete with it? Just a team like
that next next spring? That's that's where this conversation kind
(36:42):
of begins. Can can they compete with that team in Dallas?
And you know, it's one thing to have a regular season,
you finish in the middle of the pack, you make
the playoffs, and it's just about how you project your
team to perform next spring.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't know. I don't know how to answer that.
I don't think you can answer that right now. Enjoy
your weekend off. I will think you'll be back with
Common on Tuesday. I will be doing that. Yes, then
you're excited, I'll be uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
We got the Vikings pre game five Game Day live
on Sunday morning at Talks nine at nine thirty.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Excellent. Thank you, Rosie, my pleasure, good weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Thanks to Dane Moore for joining us well, and of
course Common and Douce who joined us for NFL Spread Swing.
And a thank you to Devin who helped out on
the ten of Fitzgerald for the first time ever. And
he'll be back tomorrow. No program password tomorrow. We will
have p versus. Li'll be and justin garden tomorrow. Thanks
for listening. It's been a good day.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Good night, good night, good night, missus Calabash.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
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Speaker 2 (37:56):
More KFA dot com
All right, welcome back to the TenneT with Gerald, Mark
Rose in here, Devin with us as well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Rosie. Was it yesterday?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We had the Koc press conference where he was very
not want, very zimmer like, not wanting to talk about
the quarterback situation. I want to answer it. Do you
feel like we got a little bit of clarity yesterday
just because JJ McCarthy still listed as limited, I limited
more than clarity, I think. I think it's as clear
as day that Wentz is going to start. Yeah, I mean,
(00:40):
the conversation ends when they say J. J. McCarthy's not
one hundred percent. When JJ McCarthy says, I'm the one
hundred percent. So the dynamics of whatever Koc had in
his mind and wanted to have him ready by this game,
it's a moot point. I mean, because whether he was
ready using air quotes or not to get out there,
(01:01):
which of course he was at the beginning of the season,
it's all eliminated. You're not gonna put your guy out
there when he's not one hundred percent in a high
ankle spring, and that's that's indeed, what he had is
I don't think you'll play this week. I don't think
I'll play against the Chargers in a short week. Maybe
he'll come back against the Lions and Detroit. We'll see
how it all flushes out, as they say, But when
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you don't have a healthy guy that's already been dealing
with injuries, I mean from a year ago, hasn't had
a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Of practice time. That's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's not like, well, we're just gonna put him out there,
because no he I mean, for me, from earlier in
the week to where we are today, it's day and night.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I just.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Shocked to be an understatement if JJ McCarthy runs out there,
unless he, you know, makes a miraculous recovery. I guess
we'll find out all maybe snippets about what happened to
practice today on a Thursday. But he's not going full go,
you know. I know he's been practicing, which is a
good sign, and he's getting better, which is a good sign.
But I think that you know, the whole discussion, and
Wentz has been playing, you know, obviously he finished for
(02:01):
the Flurry in his last game, and the Vikings have
had a break, the Eagles had ten days off. I
think the bigger news, honestly, and we concentrate so much
on the quarterback position, especially with what's been going on here,
but the fact that Donovan Jackson's coming back, I mean,
this guy's been a stud what a great draft pick
on that Ohio State rich Lineman class hopefully getting I
(02:24):
asked you during the break, is Brian O'Neill coming back?
I mean, which would be a little bit of a
surprise considering the what looked like a really serious d injury.
Getting a full game potentially out of Christian Darsaw. I mean,
he's been on that so called pitch count and now
it sounded like choc was also saying, and Darrisaw said
that I'm ready to rock and roll basically the whole game,
(02:46):
and then add you know, throwing. Obviously, the big addition
of Blake Cashman on defense and the possibility of Van
Ginko returning, those collectively are almost I think bigger stories.
It's not as sexy as who's going to play quarterback? Well,
you can almost put that to bed right now and
saying is a football team. The Vikings will be appreciably
better this week than they were in their European games.
(03:09):
With the addition of those guys Jackson had the Risser surgery,
he was out and he's been playing awfully well. And
then they have some depth now, some guys that can
play the center.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's you don't even hear his name anymore. I mean,
I can only imagine Ryan Kelly and the number of
concussions he's had. It's it's almost I'm not you know,
you could throw in the term career threatening and it's
you know, I hope it's not that's the case.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But when you see these parts to think about it, yeah,
he's I.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Mean from a family standpoint, in his own personal health,
and we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
But I mean they, you know, like anybody any other team,
you have to just kind of fix that. But I
think the offensive line in particular, when they I think
they have to run the ball, you know, you know,
consistently to at least get get Wentz off the you know,
second and nine and the third and eights, to have
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you know, Mason and you know, since uh Jones isn't
back for another week, you know, you got you got
to put them in a position where you're you're in control,
You're it's a manageable down in distance for the Vikings
and because that's where the Eagles can really get you.
Like a lot of teams, you're third and nine all
the time, you're not gonna win football game.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Obviously, there are still guys that aren't on the injury report,
right because Aaron Jones is not on the report, as
you just mentioned Ryan Kelly. But of the guys that were,
there were no d nps yesterday. And then that's for
a Wednesday practice, right. Sometimes you get the more Wednesday
and they improve as you go along. But as you mentioned,
Donovan Jackson limited with a wrist injury, Brian O'Neil limited
with a knee injury.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
J J.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
McCarthy limited with the ankle injury, Andrew van Ginkel limited
with the neck injury.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Brian Cashman full go. That's the other part of this.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We focus on the offense, but defensively for a team
that has struggle, guns to run and you're gonna be
playing Did I say, Blake Cashman?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
What did I say? What did you said? Brian?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh, I'm sorry it's Blake. Yeah think wait night. Brian
Cashman used to be the GM for the New York Yankees.
The Yankees cash and cash Out apologize for saying that
right name question myself. But for a team that has
struggled against the run this season, and I'm assuming Philadelphia's
got despite the fact that they've struggled to sake on Barkley,
I still think they're going to want to be a
run first offense. With Jalen hurtson to get Cashman back
(05:15):
and potentially Van Ginkel back, I think could be huge
on that side of the ball as well.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Well, yeah, absolutely, I mean it's it's odd when you
start looking at these stats. You know, the six games
into this thing, the Eagles are still four to two.
They ranked third worse than the NFL in total yards.
That's shocking. Barkley, who ran for over two thousand yards
last year in twenty twenty four, hasn't come yeah that
was last year, hasn't come close to a one hundred
(05:40):
yard game yet. Think about that. How is that possible?
The guy like that Hurts is not. You know, they
got the AJ Brown drama and both those guys and
DeVante DeVante Smith both had one thousand yard receivers. They've
also been upset about the things going on. Their Pro
Bowl right tackle Lane Johnson ripped the predictability of their
off offense. So they've been you know, they've had some
(06:03):
time and they're fiery. Coach Nick Sirianni, I'm sure, has
been pushing all the right buttons and telling them, you
know that, you listen, we've got to get this corrected.
We've got to get it corrected now. So it's it's
gonna be an interesting matchup of of what perceived to
be strength against strength, the Tush push versus the Vikings
interior defense. Hopefully won't come to that, but you know,
(06:26):
I think you know, listen, we all know what the
Vikings love to do. They still love to throw the football,
and that's why I think on those you know, to
get themselves in a situation they're second and fourth and
then you become less predictable, and those are the times
where you know what what JJ can do, justin Jefferson
can do, and what Addison can do, and what you
know Wentz has been able to do as he did
on that last drive. And now you got an offensive
(06:48):
line that hopefully will give him the time to to
throw those passes that you know, to keep the change
moving and keep the Eagles off the field.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Right, we went a little along with spread swings. We're
going to break a break now. Why that happens? Well,
when people aren't listening to the segment, it takes a
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Speaker 1 (07:46):
All right, welcome back to the ten, Fitzgerald, Mark Rosen
with me. Common'll be out tomorrow as well. We will
now play program password tomorrow, but Common we'll return on Monday. Devin,
I need you to do me a favor. I need
you to give me a number.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
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Speaker 1 (08:00):
Between zero and twenty four or seventy and ninety nine,
somewhere in one of those two ranges five five, and
then I'd like to pick a sport football, hockey, baseball,
or basketball, baseball, baseball?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All right, Mark Rosen, Oh no, what are you doing
to me?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's time now for random reminiscing with Rose.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Today thanks to Devin and we are going to reminisce
about the two thousand and five Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That year they finished eighty three and seventy nine, third
in the American leagues. Pretty typical. General manager was Terry Ryan.
I'm looking at stats here, So catcher was Joe Mauer.
He had two ninety four for nine home runs just.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Two thousand five. That was a non descriptive year for
the Twins. Got most of them.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
They had a couple of early years that was yeah,
because they had the run right in two and three,
two thousand and four they made the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Then and then two thousand and six was.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
One of the best Minnesota Twins teams I've seen, and
that was when Lariano and Santana were.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Just every day you had like two aces. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But on the two thousand and five team, you had
a Nick Punto as your second baseman who apparently might
be in the mix for the Twins.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Manager was Jason Bartlett at shortstop.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Michael Kadier was your third baseman, Shannon Stewart, Tory Hunter,
Jacques Jones. Where you're in the outfield, Matt Lee, Croy
and d h You have lou Ford, Juan Castro coming
off the bench, Michael Redman, Luis revas So, your starters, Radkey, Santana,
Kyle Loch, Joe Mays.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And Carlos Silva.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Your bullpen Macarrere, j c Ramiro, Jan Rancone, Joe Nathan,
Jesse Crane, Terry mulholland your thoughts on the two thousand
and five Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I mean, they had some good You just rattled off
a bunch of real the good baseball players. So just
they weren't a great baseball team that year. As you mentioned,
most of those guys were part of a team teams
that were much more competitive before that. And of course,
when I covered the when the Twins played in New
York the old Yankee Stadium, when Santana won, I think
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he won that first game, was pitching so well, and
all the New York writers, I remember, all they cared
about asking Santana was, well, when you know, basically, when
you come in to New York, why are you wasting
your career in Minnesota? And they weren't even trying to
hide it, and Santana handled it diplomatically, but deep down
you kind of knew he wasn't going to be staying
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in Minnesota for the rest of his career. And of
course he end up going to the Mets, but you know,
it was painfully obvious that, you know, the flyover existence
that a lot of Minnesota sports teams have when you
when you go to New York, you really feel it
when you're in when you're in a position of being
a superstar kind of pitcher, as Santana was during that time,
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and all the are just going, Okay, you know, I
don't have a little fun right now kicking it around,
but you're coming to New York and whether it would
be the Yankees of the Mets, and that's.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What I recall.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I don't remember a lot about that particular year, sorry
to disappoint you. I mean, you just kind of rattled
it off of eighty.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Three of all the years in two thousands, it was
kind of one of the more forgettable season.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It was the other ones were and they were fun
there by the way.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Do you remember, though, the team that won the World
Series that year you were a two thousand and five,
your Chicago White Sox. They swept the Houston Astros. Yeah,
in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I remember that, you know, the one I remember the
most about the White Sox, you know, with Twins and
the White Sox of course, with the Piranhas and Ozzie
Gian And the one game I remember more than any
was at Game one sixty three when Jim Tolmy was
playing for the White Sox and you hit a home
run I think the ninth inning or tenth ninth inning
and beat the Twins and won nothing. It was a
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tremendous baseball game, but you know, catapulted the the Socks
into the playoffs and kicked the Twins out of there.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
That was.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It was a dramatic game, much the way that the
Twins had when they beat the Tigers here in that
extra game when Carlos Gomez scored the game winning run.
But yeah, again, those earlier years were I mean see
and this sort of fast forward to today's team and
what you're looking at. But those teams, no, they didn't
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win a World Series, but they were they were very competitive.
They want a bunch of divisional titles. But you just
rattle off those names. They had big personalities on that team.
They just did up and down the lineup I mean
with Tori and aj Prazinski and and and uh, you
know obviously you know.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Kadaire. I mean, all those guys were entertaining. They were
fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And you look at today's team and you know, Royce
Lewis has a big personality, but he hasn't unfortunately being
able to back it up and stay on the field.
Buxton is more of a quiet, you know, kind of
guy that he gets, you know, and he does the
train the Locomotive tribute to his dad and it's a dinger.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's about it. That's otherwise they lost the rand and
his entrance him a huge.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Moment, huge entertainment value beyond being a really a real talent.
But that's the and that's what's missing, and that you know,
it's just I don't know how they're going to ever
get that back.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But uh, you know, Punto to come back and be
the man and bring back the Piranhas.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
But that was fun. I mean, people enjoyed. They didn't
have to be the Yankees, they didn't have to be
you know, the Red Sox at that time, but they were.
They were, you know, they were a good baseball team
and they enjoyed it. And the fans responded to him,
and that's something that's so far from where we are
at right now.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That's, by the way, Devin was three during the season.
He was three years old. Well, he's just he has
no idea the players. Who's Joe Mauer, He says, he
didn't really say that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I think he was good, right, Well, I mean you
don't have to you can be a certain age. You
can still. I'm sure he's a sports fan. He's right, Devin.
I mean, you know, I knew.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Who Harmon Killibrew was, even though I didn't watch Harmon
kilber An Other interesting other interesting notes of the two
thousand and five Major League Baseball season. It was notable
for the league's new steroid policy in the wake of
the Bualco scandal the ball, which enforced harsher penalties than
ever before for steroid use in Major League Baseball. Several players,
including veteran Rafael Palmero, was suspended under the new policy.
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Other interesting things. That was the first year that we
had a baseball team in Washington, d c. Since the
Senators played their nineteen seventy one So that's when the.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Nationals moved there from Montreal.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And the most important thing in two thousand and five
is that the Anaheim Angels changed their name to the
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's big.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I like it better than of the California Angels. They
had the whole state behind him. They did.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
They were called the California y Rod Carup played for
him than during that time they were the California Angels. Yeah,
a lot has changed, and it's still amazing when you know,
we watched the Dodgers, but the billions of dollars that
they're worth and how much money they spent on their payroll,
to me, it's still a shocking really and a testament
I guess the longevity of the brand. They're playing in
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the same ballpark that they did when they moved from Brooklyn.
I mean, Chavez Ravine has been there forever, and it's
just a it's it's an awful place to get out of.
I was watching, you know, the other game, and the
Dodgers think were blowing them out the other night, right
when they and people leave there like in the fifth
or sixth inning just to try to beat the traffic.
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I mean, it's just it's and for good reason, because
if you get stuck in that and that those lanes
and getting out of that ballpark. I hope you, as
they say, pack a lunch because or don't have to,
you know, go to the bathroom because you're not going
to make it. It's just an hour and a half,
two hours to get out of there.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So I know we didn't land down the two thousand
and six Minnesota Twins. We landed on the two thousand
and five Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I do quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I feel like the two thousand and six Twins, right,
I had been working with Common at that point, I'd
heard Common do the pole ads, penny pinching bit, blah
blah blah blah blah. Two thousand and six was the
first season as a fan that I thought, Man, these
guys are never going to spend money, do something at
the trade deadline. Because that was a team. Like I said,
there was a stretch there in that summer right where
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Johann Santana and Francisco Ariano you had, you had a
Radke as your third pitcher. I mean, that's how that's
how good your starting vitation. Those two were unbeatable. They
went on a stretch where they won thirty four or
forty two games and they finished the season with ninety
six and sixty six.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, and they did basically.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Nothing at the MLB Terry trade down, Like, if you're
not going to go all in with this team when
you had you know, and you had them ours and
the more Nose and they were hitting in Kadai or
that was the first moment where like there is something
to this common talking about the Polads aren't just they're
never going to spend money or make a big acquisition
at the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, and that it was too bad in my opinion,
hasn't changed in the Twins won ninety six games. That
you're in you're thinking, well, this is the one of
the few times they don't have to play the Yankees
right away. The Yankees were number one seed, but they
were I'm just looking it up right now. They were
hosting Detroit. Detroit was the wild card and the Twins
were hosting the Oakland A's. Yeah, and the Twins got
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great starts from Santana. And remember the course, good old
boof bonser Uh. They lost game one. I'm looking it up.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I score three the iniatory Hunter air in the center field.
Remember that ball game defense? I remember that's the only
thing I remember about that that just killed them. They
never they never led in any game in the series.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Santana won the cy Young.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
That was.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
That was shocking because of that. Well, they're going to
at least punch their ticket to play the Yankees. Uh
getting past Oakland. Oh, what a sy of relief. They
don't have to play the Yankees the first round.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That was.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That was a really good baseball team that won ninety
Santana won the si Young that year. Yeah, morneaut won
the MVP.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Maher became the first American league catcher to win the
Major League Baseball Batting Ground And we like basically stood
patted the trade of the line and like, well since
to this day, like I'm that was one of the
best Twins team since nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That was the best Twins team I've seen. Yeah, that's
when I mean we didn't go all in. No, they
did not.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I mean I'm looking at their bench that they had,
you know, with you know, the micro Redmonds of the
world and Kobal and Shannon Stewart. That was a big
trade they made. I mean for them, it was a
big trade in the year. Yeah, years before then, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
When they picked him up.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
But the rest of them were you know, Casilla and
Luis Rodriguez, I mean, you know, I don't know. And
then they had you mentioned the pitchers that were were
there even you know, Kyle Losch's of the world. But
you know, Nathan was thirty six saves, one point nine
five eight e r a U. Pat Nishek was pitching
really well at the time. Perkins got in about four games.
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But yeah, those were they were again, big personalities, successful team.
When you win ninety six games, you're doing something right.
But they just were never able to capitalize it. You said,
they couldn't make that trade or wouldn't make the trade
to maybe push him over the top. And that's that's
been kind of the signature where the Twins franchise has been.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's it for reminiscing with Rosen final segment. We'll have
a longer sigment to go. If you want to join us, obviously,
you can call zero fire, three two six. You can
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Speaker 2 (19:08):
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Speaker 1 (19:09):
There's a microphone right next to the play button when
you get into the KFA in which by the way,
should be a preset on your iHeart radio app. You
got it less than thirty seconds to make a comment there.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
We can also talk wild go for football, continue with Vikings,
maybe talk Twins managerial search. We'll do that all with
Rose in next segment. The text so far at the
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Bradshawn Brian kfan text line at six four six eight
six O Twins related that's surprise thus far. One texter says,
what does ROSI think the next Twins manager needs to
do to try and turn this team around.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Go into Joe Paul D's office and ask him to
give him a blank check and just say, here's here
are the players that I need to try to win
at least in this division. Let's just start with that.
To play catch up with Detroit Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I mean, it's it's going to be a plumb job
for I mean, some of the names you've heard, and
you mentioned Nick Punto's name, you know, popular Twins players,
and it's going to be a good job for someone
who takes it because they're gonna obviously get a nice
boost and pay and an opportunity to manage a big
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ley cub and probably with very little pressure on him.
But we've said that about you know, Paul Balder probably
gonna have job security for a lot while a little
bit anyway, because you can't. I mean, if you're the
you know whatever is I don't know how fractured the
Twins ownership is, and hiring someone it kind of falls
on deaf ears, that's all.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You're gonna have a news conference and introducing you know,
the Nick Punto's or whomever it's going to be, Derek Shell,
you know, just name a name and then you know
the baseball writers will be there and they'll ask them,
you know, how are you going to win with this roster?
What assurances do you have from management that you're going
to try to improve this baseball team? Yeah, we know
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you got a great farm system on paper, second in
the in Major League Baseball. Apparently they're not that's that's
not filling out your lineup card next year is not
going to matter.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And when it comes to that, stat great to have that.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But you know, right now, looking at the teams that
are still standing, you know what Toronto and Seattle have
done a particularly American league, the Dodgers in a whole
different rarefied air. But you know those teams have are
have done it, you know, through building their own franchise,
their own players, and also adding a few. So I
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don't know, I don't. I think that the more than
any other sport. I think probably is the least effect
on wins and losses. They can win x number of games,
maybe lose a couple with some strategic things or you know.
I know a lot of people, and I never said
that Rockoball Delhi was the perfect manager.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Far from it.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean, he made plenty of mistakes to drive me crazy,
pulling pitchers.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Early, I think, and.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Doing other things. But I don't he wasn't the reason
why they, you know, ended up where they were. He
can't throw pitches, he can't swing the back. No, And
I was reading something about the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I don't know if this is true or not that
a lot of the pitchers we're seeing right now that
they held back a lot of their starters pitched under
one hundred innings this year, and then they're unleashing them
in the postseason or right before that. That's pretty scary
to see. You know, again the depth and the just
the sheer talent level that they have in that pitching staff,
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and they and they're supposed to have problems in the
back end of the relievers. They don't have the you know,
the traditional great closures that they've had over the years. Anyway, Yeah,
I did. I don't know what they're going to do.
Text it said, Honestly, who is going to want the
Twins job?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
There?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
There's no money looking forward now, I get it, and
I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think to your point, there's only thirty mL be
manager positions.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Anyone who's getting.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
That job is likely coming from a different coaching position
where this is going to be a I get it,
it's the Twins, but it's still gonna be a significant
pay raise.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's still gonna be opportunity.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I do get the trepidation of right, if there's somebody
who has options of, hey, I can get this job here,
I get this job there, I can see you picking
them over the Twins because it is going to be
hard to believe how is this team going to be
turning this thing around in the next couple of years,
Because I don't I don't see a situation where they're
investing money back into the team.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
No, I mean, and they have on paper, they have,
they'll they'll have they have a come like three or
four guys that I think that will be a part
of this team in the next year, year and a half.
I mean even probably starting right after spring training. They
have to they have to bring up some guys that
are you know, traditionally wouldn't be in the major league
roster just yet. And forgetting the old arbitration thing. But
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I mean, I know I've been, you know, pounding the
bricks about the guy who's been hurt a little, you know,
dealing with some injuries. But Walker Jenkins is a perfect
example of that. I mean, they drafted when he was
drafted and just a world of talent on paper. I
don't want to wait three years to watch him another year.
I mean, I know he did suffer some setbacks injury wise,
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almost like JJ McCarthy, but that's a perfect Culpepper is
another one. I think the kid's name is a shortstop.
These guys who got to start playing for them. If
they're capable of playing a double A, they're capable of
coming up here and learning the ropes at the major
league level. I would rather as a fan watch those
guys play. I mean, I guess you could go to
Saint Paul and watch If they're over there, then go,
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you know, go over to Saint Paul and watch them
play for the Saints. But they need to be here
and need to be here soon, and you don't have
any other options. You want to try to sell some
hope and also get these guys an opportunity to develop
in the major league players.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Ryan and Michigan says, guys, I have a more simplistic
take on the Vikings quarterback Ordeal Okay, Wentz will play
until he has a very poor performance. That's if Wentz
looks solid, there will always be a reason JJ isn't
quite ready your thoughts. That's kind of been my take
this entire time when we've been having this discussion of
Winz or McCarthy. I think you give Onz another game now.
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I think once has been solid. I don't think he's
been great. I think he's just been solid. He was
great the last drive, But you kind of take it
game by game. If he doesn't perform well and you
lose against Philadelphia, then it's easy to go back to JJ.
If he keeps performing well, and the team's winning. You know,
Carson Wentz is not a thirty eight year old quarterback. Like,
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there's still a possibility, Like Carson Wentz is your quarterback
for the next five six years, right, I mean of
the Sam Darnold ilk and the Kirk Cousins ilk.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right, you could still win with those types of quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Think about who is not over Think about who he's
playing here on Sunday and who the quarterback was who
won the Super Bowl here at us Bank Steal His
name was Nick Foles. What happened to that guy? Yeah,
he had his moment in the sun. So I mean, yes,
it can happen. We've seen it happen a number of times.
I don't the thing with McCarthy and the ankle and
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then his development or lack thereof at this point, I
just to me, it's not even an argument that can
be had.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You drafted the guy to be your franchise quarterback. He
is going to play, end of story, when he's healthy enough.
They're not holding him back. He would have started the
season if they were going to hold He has to play.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
He has to.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
He has to fight through some stuff, and that's just
a development whether you're I've seen every successful quarterback.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Doesn't he have to play if you're in a playoff Chase, Well,
I don't agree he has to play.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Well, it doesn't have to play, depending on how you
identify that, and if he's healthy, I think that decision
will be made long before the playoff Chase really officially
kicks in in December, if you want to call it that.
I just think that when he's healthy enough to play
and he gets a good cup, a good practice weeknd.
I mean that's the problem. He's been so much time
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compared to all the other quarter the young quarterbacks were
drafted last year, missing all of last year when he
really wasn't almost even allowed to do anything in the
facility other than going to meetings.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's sent him back a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
So I don't know my judgment on JJ McCarthy is
an NFL quarterback and you got to puff the brakes
and just wait and see. But how Koc handles it,
and we heard, you know, his sharpness with the quick
question about is he going to play and the way
he answered, I'm gonna get myself all wound up about that.
I mean, I'm sure he's tired of answering it. But
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you know he's he's committed to him and the franchise
has committed to him. Otherwise I would have they would
have let Donald. Yeah, but you know, you know Rose,
it's the NFL. You're committed. But this isn't till death
to us part. No, of course not if you have
someone that is produced. That's what I'm saying, Like Carson
Wentz right now has just been solid. If Carson, If
Carson Wentz goes out against.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Philadelphia on Sunday. Yeah, and this is is a hypothetical.
I know it's an if. If ifs or fist, we'd
all be drunk. If he throws twenty seven of thirty
four for three hundred and twelve yards, three touchdowns, new interceptions,
and the Vikings meet the Eagles by twenty four points.
We're not saying, well, you got to have a look
at JJ McCarthy. We're not saying that anymore. So there
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is still, like I said, it's not till death do
us part, that we got to see JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
There are well and he's going to play. I think
Wentz will play both.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I mean, forgetting anything else that happens in the game
on Sunday and then you play a short week next Thursday.
I can't imagine the JJ McCarthy's going to make his
return on a short week where he can practice basically
one full day and then play against the Chargers. You
really you're practicing a little bit today indoors. According to
Kevin Seaffert, all fifty three guys were out there today,
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so that's a good sign. Including again, like I said
to me, the bigger story at the moment is Andrew
van Ginkel. I mean, I think that guy makes that
defense go along with Cashman, and having both those guys
back will have a lot more to do with the
success of the Vikings on Sunday. The necessarily what Carson
Wentz's box score looks like. But yeah, I understand, of
course you're gonna You're not gonna bench him at that point,
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but at some point he's not gonna have one of
those games, and I think it's gonna the decision will
be a lot easier for him to u.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'm not committed to Carson Wentz. You let him play
for a week, just see how he does, sure, and
then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
After all that matters.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
If Carson Wentz is brilliant, and JJ McCarthy is one
hundred percent next week. I think there's a reason you
can still go back to Carson Wentz.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That's all I'm saying, Yes you can, but there, yes,
there will be a time however that's identified. We've We've
had plenty of cases of looking around the league. I mean,
were young quarterbacks just have to sit and wait. Look
what the Packers have done all these years. I mean,
it's just there's been a rush. Who's been a rash
of these young quarterbacks have gotten out there, But a
lot of them have been a lot better in this
second year than they were last year when they played
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all last year. McCarthy didn't play it all last year.
Had he played last year, even some who knows what
they would have looked like was considering the way that
Sam Darnold was lighting it up, we would be having
a totally differ discussion. But you don't get those reps
in and he's you know, the judgment on McCarthy is
so far down the road right now, just it really
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I can't hand that discussion yet.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'm gonna keep discussing it because we have some text messages.
That's fine. People want to know about.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm just going to read this the two that support me.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I kind of like it being in this chair where
I can just read the ones out loud that support
my take and the ones that there's plenty of them
that are disagreeing with me. Flim Flamm says the only
reason to play McCarthy is to evaluate him before signing
him to a second contract.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
We have three more three to four more seasons to
do that.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Wentz being the better option against the Eagles has nothing
to do with who plays quarterback the next decade.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Fans are insecure.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I also had brands right Anthony Richards in fifth overall pick,
and Colts weren't afraid to switch to Danny Diames, just
like the Vikings shouldn't have been scared of bringing him
in to compete with McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Biggest mistake made.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
In Ponder Era was being scared of bringing in any
real quarterback competition and being scared of ruining his confidence
and Spielman forcing his pick to be right, not wanting
to admit he made him a.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Well that ponder things a whole nother discussion. I wouldn't
put it in the same category or conversation with any
of these quarterbacks that you're just talking about right now.
Anthony Richardson thing was, yeah, I don't think anybody really
saw that coming, and good for them.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They had to move on.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
He also got hurt, but at that point they're going on.
Whether Anthony Richardson finds success somewhere down the line in
the NFL with another quarterback whisper remains to be seen.
I don't think he's played his last NFL game, but
we've seen situations when that's happened, and they're not all
going to.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Hit home runs.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
We watch a draft day and then guys come and
go in this league pretty quick. And even at the
quarterback position, if you have a great collegiate career, it
doesn't mean anything that you're going to transfer to the NFL.
But you know, for every Drake May, there's an Anthony Richardson,
there's a you know, look at Justin Fields. I look
at what years he in right now. The people think
(31:53):
that he's hit his ceiling now or.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
What is at this point, Well, that's right team number
three and still performing the same way. I think now
I shouldn't say that because you know, maybe if you
get if the quarterback. Westburg got ahold of them, right,
because we gave up on Baker Mayfield, and we gave
up on Sam Donald, we gave up on Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Well, when you say he gave up on Sam Donald,
the Vikings were in a situation where no, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Saying the Vikings game, I'm saying the general public right right,
Like he was on team number four by the time
he got to the Viking.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Same with Baker.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Baker Mayfield went from Cleveland, he started at Carolina, he
played a game on a random Thursday night for the Rams,
and then all of a sudden landed in Tampa Bay
MVP candidate.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So I guess, could Justin Fields have that his career.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I guess i'd be You got to be at the
right team, right situation, and you got to have the
right makeup, and you know the hard to identify all
those things coming together at the same time.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I love this guy. You are very confusing.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Carson Wentz is won and one in his last two games,
and we would have lost last week if he didn't
have a very good last rive. I wrote, nice cherry picking.
He's two and one in his last three starts, like
he just changed, and then he comes back at me
and he's won and one in his last two starts,
and he's on his last start, right.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
And let's let's go back to my original premiss all,
what what I'm more excited about than having this discussion
over and over and over again, which is fine to do,
the fact that the Vikings offensive line is going to
be completely re bolstered.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
This, Yes, I mean that is what's going quarter right.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Carson Wentz got buried the other night, the other game too,
and that's shouldn't happen. When when you have Darrisaw playing
every every series, and and you got Donovan Jackson back,
and you got O'Neill back. That's a that's a hell
of an offensive line all of a sudden, those guys
stay healthy and he can run the ball, He can
do a lot more things that a veteran quarterback like
Carson Wentz can take advantage of it. I like watching
Carson play. I don't think he's a liability at all.
(33:51):
I mean, I think he's got a lot of moxie.
He's figured things out, he's been through it. He understands
that that what his limitations are. And you know, he's
the Vikings are fortunate they have them on you know,
pick them up off the scrap heep, as they say,
get them on the team, and that's that's good, fortunate
compared to some of these other teams that are looking
around going we don't have a quarterback at all. I mean,
(34:13):
look at Cincinnati. Oh they got Joe, the two forty
year olds going at it tonight. Yeah, the Jared All
the Jared's Ball Bowl Howl.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Ay, Roger, You're not here tomorrow, So i'd like to
get your opinion on Gophers Nebraska. You got a number
twenty five team coming in the Huntington Bags Stadium.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I just can't stop thinking about the way that Perdue
rammed the ball against the Gophers in the first half
last week, and they were their own worst enemy. You know,
all the you know, the turnovers, and kudos to the
Gophers for making that happen, But the basics of the game,
the ex's and o's, and if you know, if you're
in Nebraska and you're Matt Ruhle and you're looking at
that tape and you're going, Okay, line them up, We're
going after him over and over and over again. So
(34:55):
unless the Gophers can figure out a way somehow to
have bolster that defense, to line the defensive front, and
I don't know how they're gonna Nebraska's a good football team.
They're not a great, great football team, but they're a
very good football team. And I'd be surprised if Minnesota can.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
We need to win games like this occasionally. Right, they're
not on games. They're not an elite team. They're a
quality team. We've got them at home.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
They in the.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Agree.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
The Nebraska games, Iowa games, Wisconsin of course is a
total mess right now. Uh, those are games that are
on your schedule. They were fortunate, but you know they
won the game. They beat produe they don't have to
excuse you know, excuse it. But this is one that
you're right when you're all of a sudden, you're eight
point underdogs at home on a Friday night, and that
place is going to be rabid with with Cornhusker fans tornight.
(35:45):
This is going to be an exciting I mean, it's
it's gonna be as they say, it's gonna be a
fun atmosphere between the football game going on over there
and uh, Sir Paul McCartney over at US Bank Stadium,
and whatever else is going on, and it's going to
be a lot of fun this and then the Vikings
of course playing on. I thought I was going to
go from McCarthy to McCartney, McCartney to McCartney McCarthy. Yeah,
(36:06):
I just didn't work out quite the way I was
hoping to twist this whole weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
But yeah, good about forty seconds where you out with
the Wilder right now, they're two and two of their
game two of their five ym road trip tomorrow night
in Washington.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I mean, that's so early, and I you know, I
heard real quick. I heard the box of the vox
Alan roach on with Pa today and he does the
Colorado Avalanche as well, and he starts rattling off all
those names with McKinnon and ca car and you go,
can the wild compete with it? Just a team like
that next next spring? That's that's where this conversation kind
(36:42):
of begins. Can can they compete with that team in Dallas?
And you know, it's one thing to have a regular season,
you finish in the middle of the pack, you make
the playoffs, and it's just about how you project your
team to perform next spring.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't know. I don't know how to answer that.
I don't think you can answer that right now. Enjoy
your weekend off. I will think you'll be back with
Common on Tuesday. I will be doing that. Yes, then
you're excited, I'll be uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
We got the Vikings pre game five Game Day live
on Sunday morning at Talks nine at nine thirty.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Excellent. Thank you, Rosie, my pleasure, good weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Thanks to Dane Moore for joining us well, and of
course Common and Douce who joined us for NFL Spread Swing.
And a thank you to Devin who helped out on
the ten of Fitzgerald for the first time ever. And
he'll be back tomorrow. No program password tomorrow. We will
have p versus. Li'll be and justin garden tomorrow. Thanks
for listening. It's been a good day.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Good night, good night, good night, missus Calabash.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
We're listening back to any of Common Man's programs by
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