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and the lousiest.

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and indeed require hard work and maximum effort. If we
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Speaker 5 (01:04):
I mean, it's like, hello, all.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I think I don't is a cold blooded connection.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Balm bomb.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
We'll head to a buffalo down the road. I think
the weather, of course, having to spend a lot of
time in Minnesota, I understand the weather pattern. Pick up
the pupet of clipper, swings down, swings up, lake front,
influence and out. I think we'll probably have about forty

(01:54):
five degree weather, so it will not be a typical
October thirty first in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1 (03:18):
This is the common Man, Dan cole. Hey, it's time
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in yours promises to be a fast paced, action packed

(03:39):
and what well as always controversial Common Man program. I
wanted to actually, uh, there are plenty of topics to
get to. Today, the Vikings take on the Lions in
a game that really I think the Vikings season. I
don't think this is going out on a limb.

Speaker 6 (03:56):
There.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, it kind of hangs in the balance with the result.
World Series thrilling again last night, excellent game Toronto evens
at at two games apiece Wild just can't seem to
get out of their own way. They lose again. The
rules of you back in action as well, so many
topics to get to. Let's go ahead and spin the
wheel of top and commons. God game, Well there's not

(04:29):
a locker too. What'd you shoot today? I sloppy? Eighty
one bloggers trail? Did you hit it one? So perfect?
Right up the gut? How far from the green? At
A one twenty three to the flags? I knocked it
on the green left, left it twenty feet for Birdie,

(04:50):
just missed made par Just got sloppy. I'm it happens
sometimes you play two. I don't know. You probably have
never had this problem. I'm playing too much. I think
I call that a good problem to have. I played
thirty six yesterday. I was the first person to tee
off of the Royal. Yesterday. I was also the last
person to drive the cart back into the cart part.

(05:12):
And in both cases I was a tail of two nines.
I was brilliant for one nine and brutal for another.
That front side at the Royal gets me, even though
it's not the number five. That whole use to vex
me that's the one where you're up on top, you
hit it down in the landing area. It's a force
carry over water. But if you hit a good drive,

(05:33):
you have a short iron in your hand. Now I'm
hitting my drivers so well, I have a short iron
in my hand rather than having like a six or something.

Speaker 8 (05:43):
So I don't remember much about Royal Club other than
the first all. I feel like it's a very challenging
first time.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Well, the whole course is challenge.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
There's water down the left side and there's a fairway
bunker up on the right just past the landing area.
I can't reach that, so I never have to turn
myself with that. It's it's it's the King and the Queen,
we call it. But I had a sloppy bogie on
a double bogie on seven, just sloppy, And you know,

(06:11):
sometimes I just don't commit. Do you ever have a
problem committing to the putt where you just kind of
give up on it at the last second and then
you kind of just leave it out right. I did
that like three or four times today. I just don't
want to commit to it. Just follow through on your part.
You have to follow through on every club including confidence. Yeah,
and I don't know why I would because I put
better than seventy five eighty percent of the players on

(06:32):
some more so. But anyways, it was fun. The season
is coming to a close. I now again, as long
as there's no snow on the ground, there are a
handful of courses that will open up. It's always the
frost issue, you know. I'll always have people tell me
should be golf of the net's gonna be fifty today.
The daytime high matters not to me. It's inconsequential. It's

(06:53):
what will it be like at eight o'clock in the
morning or eight thirty one. I have to tee off.
If there's frost, I don't play. If there's that, I
do so. Uh, the official un official ambassador of Minnesota
Golf continue to play as much golf as he can
because it's part of my responsibilities. What I really wanted
to do today, Tenny Bee is I wanted to talk
about something we haven't we we haven't discussed in a
long time, and that would be the Vikings quarterback situation. No,

(07:17):
I'm just kidding, though, I did see what do we call?
Did we ever come up with a name? PA's texted
turnovers or turnover turnover turnover texts. That sounds okay, doesn't it.

Speaker 8 (07:38):
You have the text version of this time now for
Paul's emails.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Now with a look inside the inbox of Fox.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Here's the common man. No Viking fans have turned on
the club. It's it's amazing. How you know it's you
know what I call it? Tennabe I called band. It
really is. When guys are laying on the line, Guys
in the training room, guys have contraptions on their shoulders,
Guys have fractured sock at shoulder sock, Guys have torn
lab rooms. They're laying it on the line, dislocated shoulders,

(08:12):
They're laying it on the line. How about this one?
I can tell by the tenor of these text messages.
PA was extolling the virtues of JJ McCarthy. How great
is going to be? This one says, if JJ has time,
talker is coming back. Tell me what QB can't dissect

(08:34):
the defense? If they have time, any wide receiver could
get open if you give them ten seconds. You said
the same thing about Kirk. Give them time and he
can pick you apart. Yeah, anyone can. Lol. The best
qbs find a wide receiver or a first down when
you don't have time, which is absolutely correct because we've
talked about it. Every guy that's playing quarterback in the
National Football League has skills, even the even the backup guys,

(08:58):
the Carson Wentzes of the It's just that there is
a pecking order, and some of them are obviously much
better than others. But most of these guys, if you've
given time to throw, they'll they'll they can throw dimes
right they they they they've they they got strong arms.
They all had success at the position. You don't get

(09:20):
elevated into the National Football League unless you were pretty
good at the Pop Warner level, the Howard Pulley level,
the Kunrapas Athletic Association level, which I played. I played
both sides of the ball. I didn't play quarterback, but
I was a precise route running sure, had a pass
catching tight end and a fierce pass rushing a rocker

(09:40):
and Gibraltar run stopping defensive lineman. But yeah, these guys
can all it is. It's pav Ma Holmes doesn't get
perfect protection all the time. No, when you watch, well
matter if I watch this this Sunday, when you watch
the kiddies destroy them. I mean, when you see the
Vikings and the Lions play, watch how quickly Jared Goff
gets rid of the football. He never he rare. Now

(10:00):
he gets sacked and he's he's he he when he
has to leave the pocket and run, he looks like
a newborn baby giraffe. Right, he's mobile. No, but he
gets rid of the ball quickly, and he is generally
he's on target. And that's that's the whole key. And
you see it with quarterbacks all the time. Caleb Williams
problem last year if you remember Tiennaby just hanging onto

(10:23):
the ball too long. As a matter of fact, the
head coach of the soon to be Big Game World
champion of Minnesota Vikas, remember when he said, maybe this
time off for McCarthy with the high ankle sprain will
benefit him because then he can watch Carson Wentz and
see how advantageous it is to get rid of the
ball right away, because because Wentz can do that as well. Now,

(10:43):
Wentz also took a number of sacks, but I think
in those cases he didn't really have a chance to
get rid of the rid of the ball. His offensive
line was so beaten and battered almost as if I would,
I would compare it to like having a torn labra
or a or a shattered shoulder socket, actually a shoulder socket.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
But that's the point I was gonna bring up. If
Pia said if he has time, Yeah, that's a big if.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
That is the big if that is it. Here's another one.
This is from John the mail carrier.

Speaker 8 (11:13):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I get it's easy to dump on Sam. I did too,
But nineteen they must be talking about Sammy Old Sam
Darnald had an armed yai eio with a tuddy here
and a tuddy there, here, a Toddy there teddy every
once in a while. The pick six old Sam Donald
has an army ii e ii oh, says about nineteen
and five. In his last twenty four regular season games,

(11:36):
McCarthy's played well for ten minutes in the Bears game.
I hope he can play and make us forget about
what a forty three hundred yard thirty five tuddy quarterback
looks like. And I do too, and I think we
all do. And I am anxious to see him play
now again with them, hopefully with an ankle. That's one
hundred percent a fresh perspective, having watched the game from

(11:58):
the sidelines. Now again for is it five games he missed, right?
He played the first two we played seven, So five
games he's watched from from the sideline. He's been in
the QB room. He's had the quarterback whisperer trying to
realign his eyes in his feet. It's a tough task
with Detroit the defense, despite the fact they were missing

(12:23):
not one player, not one member of the secondary for
Detroit against Tampa Bay Tampa Bay last week was a
starter when the season began, and they played very well
in the secondary, holding Tampa Bay Tampa Bay to nine points.
So it's lines are getting a little bit healthier. They
had the bye week, so they're they're probably a pretty

(12:44):
good spot right now. The Lions dend's a tough place
to play. In the past, it wasn't, but we know
it's a different Lions team now it has been for
the last three four years. So we'll dive deeper into that.
We have Rock Talk and Rock Rank Rock Rank, Rock
Talk coming up with Brian o' get a twelve thirty
head coach of the soon to be Big Game World
champion Minnesota Bike You will have his news conference we'll

(13:05):
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see where the Vikings. Now that Carson Wentz has been

(14:53):
discarded into the trash, hev is no longer he is.
He has outlived his usefulness for the Vikings after being
beaten and battered for five weeks like a pinata the Vikings.
It is it official? Did they sign Johnny Wolford? Because
I know that was the reports. I know that Pella

(15:15):
Sero had said uh. Sources were that they were going
to sign Johnny Wolford of the practice squad this end
of the practice squad he's coached. He was coached by
Kevin O'Connell with the Rams. He spent training camp this
year with KOs protege Grand Udinsky in Jacksonville. Some experienced

(15:36):
depth behind JJ McCarthy, another guy that if you give
him time Tennabee, he can complete pass this well he
can if you don't give him any time. That's why
he's on the practice squad because he's has a little
bit more trouble when that he doesn't have time to throw.
It's and it's it's, it's it's an art form if
you want, I mean, I you can call it an

(15:58):
art form, and I guess I would, which it takes
a real knack to be able to do that. This
isn't really a Vikings note, though it does involve the
team they're playing on Sunday. Did I see where the
line signed Aiden Hutchinson to some massive Yes? Was it?

(16:19):
Did I?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
What was the number?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
One hundred and forty million? Is that the number I saw?

Speaker 8 (16:24):
One D one hundred and eighty million over four years,
one hundred and forty one million guarantee, you.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Say one forty guaranteed. I'll tell you what you know
that it's it's it's it's the organization is h is
top notch right now. But they're they've just they have
signed so many players to massive contracts. I don't know
how they're They better win soon because I think golf

(16:51):
makes a healthy amount of money. We know Hutchinson does. Now,
who's there, uh Jmo Gibbs, Well, the other one receiver,
just sign one not oh yeah, Jameson Williams. Jameson Williams
signed a massive deal. I think Gibbs did also. I'm
mom Ross Saint Brown. I also think, you know, so

(17:12):
they've got plenty of money that they've spent, so they
better cash in now, cash and cash out, cash and
cash out. You'll hear the Vikings Lines game on this
radio station Sunday. I believe it's a noon start covered
to begin at ten on this radio station, opening kickoff
set for twelve noon. As you look towards the Vikings game,

(17:37):
Tennaby is there? I mean other than seeing if McCarthy
has learned anything or can at least play more like
he did in that one quarter against the Bears than
he did the other seven quarters. Anything else you're looking for,
I guess to see if O'Neill and Daris are healthy
or at least healthy enough to play. If they play
and they're effective, that does give the Vikings a much

(17:59):
better chance. Mark Craig wrote about it. He's NFL writer
for Fisher Rep Factory West Side. Did you see his
piece yesterday? Tenneby? He wrote, how would the Vikings have
done if Danny Dimes has stayed with the Vikings and
his whole point of is his piece was, it's really
about the protection of forded quarterbacks. The Colts offensive line

(18:20):
has been healthy the entire season. The numbers he had
were astonishing. I think they've like I could look it up,
but every starter has played every game. They've played almost
every snap. And when you have a good offensive line
that is healthy and they're all you know it. We

(18:44):
realize that you know, they are individual alignment, a center,
two guards, and two tackles last I heard, but they
do work in concert with each other, right, And when
you have the same guys game in game out playing
at a high level, are you going to put up
numbers like the Colts did. So I guess this point
was everybody's pining for Danny Dimes and he is doing

(19:07):
a good job. But it goes back to what we
said at the very beginning of the show, Tenant being
with the what the text messager was alluding to on
Paul's intercepted text messages is that what you give any
quarterback time to throw, they'll they'll they'll generally carve a
team up. And that's what Danny Dimes is doing right
now because he has excellent protection from an excellent offensive line.

(19:29):
And I just looked at the most recent power rankings
and it's hard to argue. And again, I always, I
always mention this every time we talk about power rankings,
because as you like to say, and you're right, the
real rankings are the standings. But it's fun. We like
list radio. It's lazy radio. I'm as lazy as it comes.

(19:52):
Most of your power rankings list. The Colts is the
best team in the NFL. And right now it's hard
to argue seven and one, and they're not just winning.
They're not winning squeakers. They're not they're not rallying from
fourth quarter deficits. They're pounding teams. They're winning by double digits,
it seems like most games. And I think a lot
of it does have to do with the offensive line.

(20:12):
And so I would if if the Vikings offensive line
is is is it is beat up as it's been
this coming Sunday, And you know, if it's the same,
the McCarthy's got no chance, he's got no he's got
no chance, right exactly, that's exactly right. So I think

(20:35):
we we we hear something from I mean, I wonder
injury reports they come on Thursday, but don't we hear
practice reports today?

Speaker 8 (20:44):
Well, I mean KOs was on with PA yesterday, okay,
and he made it basically insinuated that JJ is going
to start Sunday, right, and I would imagine.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Probably an announcement today. I don't think he's gonna but.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Talking about the old lineman. If if we're if we're going,
if they're gonna be, if they're gonna be li even
that we have.

Speaker 8 (21:06):
Seen with Christian Darosa specifically, there's been multiple times in
the last month where he is a full participant on
a Wednesday and then doesn't practice on a Thursday. Try right,
So true even if it says Christian DearS a full participant,
I don't know if we can garner anything out of it. Yeah,
but the ONEO one yes.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
And yeah, you're right, So we'll have to see how
that goes. I'm gonna, uh, I'm gonna look for that.
That piece by Mark Craig. Can take a look at
some of those numbers. It really is. It's it's really
interesting and it just goes to show you cliches are

(21:48):
cliche for a reason because generally they're true in games
are just they're they're one in the trenches. That's just
the way it is. Let's pause and return. He get
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Speaker 1 (22:41):
Thirteen fourteen pastime comedies tend to be excited and delighted
to be joined by Brian og It's time for Rock Talk.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'm very happy to be here and I would like
to speaking of what Tennant was just talking about. Dedicate
this edition of Rock Talk to my sixth grade homeroom teacher,
mister Bunker at University Avenue Elementary School. The mister Bunker
was a of the schoo again University Avenue Elementary University,
the University exactly. That's my alma mater. Just the best

(23:10):
teacher I ever had. And I think about them all
the time. And you know, I think teachers do a
lot of good work, and they do land that special connection.
My ex wife a teacher, lifelong teacher, still is to
this day, and the number of people that have come
up over the years, and Ben, you literally changed my life.
You saved me in seventh grade. That kind of stuff.

(23:30):
Teachers do make a difference. So whatever Tendabee said and
wherever you said to go, go do that thing and
teacher due to your favorite teacher.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I got a wholeheartedly agree. I brought up the teachers
that are most nearest and dearest my heart. That would
have been my second grade teacher, Missus cull Itton, my
fifth grade teacher, mister Kaiser, and then at Brown Institute,
longtime Channel five weather man Roy Finden. Uh huh, those
are my very best instructors. Where'd you go to elementary school? Hoover?

(24:00):
Jacob oh you did, okay? And then I went from Eligi.
I went to Adams School because Adam School opened while
I was at Alojaco, but it opened in nineteen sixty eight, right,
so I was there. I christened the school. I was
one of the first students. Well done.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I was in one of the first at Northdale Junior
High because I lived right on the border of Coon
Rapids and Blaine. So that all fed into that and
made friends that I still have today. There that ain't work,
and that's the way we do it.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Money for nothing in your chicks for free? Where's that
you play your guitar? On the MTV? There's that, but
not so much anymore. Remember when MTV first started, was
it they played the Buggles or the Bugles?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It was the Buggles video Killed the Radio Star was
their first track, followed by I can't remember which one
it was. Was it hit Me with Your Best Shop?
But Pat Benatar was the second video.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, I'm reading a piece from the Guardians from Across
the Pond and the Laune of MTV in nineteen eighty
one ushered in a new era of music, showing music
videos twenty four hours a day. The television channel redefined
artist marketing and launched the careers of such artists as
Michael Jackson and Madonna, whose public personas became inseparable from

(25:06):
the gripping, frequently controversial clips they produced to be played
on the service. Now, that chapter of music history appears
to be drawing to a close, with MTV's parent company,
Paramount announcing that it's five dedicated music channels in the
United Kingdom, MTV Music, MTV Eighties, MTV Nineties, Club, MTV

(25:27):
and MTV Live will cease broadcasting Wow after December thirty. First,
the flagship MTV channel, which broadcasts reality programs such as Catfish,
the Hills and Geordie Shore, will remain in operation.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, because that's the only profitable wing of what they do.
I mean, what you just called Jeordie Shore, is that
what it's called Geordy Yeah, Jordy Jordan.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
No.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Jersey Shore is the American version, The brit version is Johnny.
Jeordie's are people from the north of England and often
sort of look down upon as working, are not as educated.
Jeordi's are more salt of the earth types, and so yeah,
Jeordi Shore, Jersey Shore. They just happened to have a
nice analog over there in the UK. Were you ever

(26:10):
a music video buff?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Is ampty?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I still am. Some people still put their heart and
soul into it. But to me, MTV, part of this
is their fault, and part of it's not their fault.
They started moving away from music. They really were responsible
more than any other singular outlet for the not only
the birth but the really first true reality TV explosion,
and you can't begrudge that. I mean, people like what

(26:33):
they like, but MTV Proper, which is why they ended
up coming with all these splinter channels later on. MTV
Proper stopped being about music a long time ago, well
into the nineties, and so they made a conscious effort
to change the focus of what they do despite their name.
But then also the advent of the Internet in the
late nineties and really exploding in the early two thousands,

(26:56):
there are so many other avenues to market for video
product and musical product in general. I mean, radio faces
the same challenges, but I haven't so I watched great videos,
and great videos are still being made, but they're all
available at the click of a button online and you
can watch your favorite whenever you want.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Tenna. I don't know if you're old enough to remember,
do you remember it? In common?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I don't ask you because I just don't think you
would have cared. When MTV was so popular, as we're
getting out of the eighties and into the nineties, there
was a feature on cable called the Box where you
could dial in or punch in and for ninety nine
cents order your video and then your video would cue
up and eventually your video would come along.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Does that ring a bet at all?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Okay, that's probably a little before your time, but this
is very early cable days, and yeah, I couldn't figure
out how that model worked. I'm like, ninety nine cents
for every three to four minutes, that's not anything.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
But they were around for a couple of years. But
then I don't know what happened to me. I've watched
a handful of videos where I and it is it's
because if I like, for instance, if I if I
listened to a song on YouTube, for instance, it always
comes with an accompanying video and a lot of video
that So there are a handful I've watched, and I
can understand the allure to them, but it's it's much

(28:08):
like people will spend time what do they call it
when you when you when you watch videos on on binging,
no snapchat and all the rolling scrolling? Is that what
we say you're scrolling or doom scrolling if you're just
there going forever that you can't stop for four hours
a year as I'm looking for. I've never been a
doom scroller. It never does. Like to watch a dog

(28:32):
spin a plate on his head while riding on the
top of a subway car just doesn't do anything for me.
You don't have to put up with ten seconds of
it and then you can go on do the next thing.
I know, I'm not arguing with the people like I'm
just saying for me, it's never done it. I don't
have any interest in watching them at all. But I
do find this this because I brought up the Buggles
song because that was going to change. Radio was going

(28:53):
to die, right, it wasn't going to be anybody. Everybody
was going to want.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
You.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
You play your guitar on MTV, I ain't work and
that's way you do it. But now it looks like
it's come full circle. And because like you say, because
it's available on the click, because almost every song that's
released still comes with the video, does it. Not not
all of them, but a lot of them do.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean, if they're trying to promote it, they know
that they're still you know, they're gonna want a video.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
In the club.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Believe it or not, people still go out club and
they somehow that survived the pandemic and online people need
a visual element.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
With Spotify things like that, you can sit and just
listen to music, or you put it on and it
goes throughout your house. But if you're sitting there actively looking,
or you're a particularly big fan of a band, and
there are still the videos with you know, hundreds hundreds,
one hundreds of thousands of dollars in budget, if not millions,
it's just it's not the same force that it was.
But we are so saturated in a multimedia environment when

(29:50):
it comes to any form of media that there's got
to be If it's going to be a killer song,
it's got to have a great video to go with it.
I was watching videos this morning, very very good. You
had you said you had a couple items. Oh yeah,
just a couple of quick items and nothing too fancy.
This one I don't know anything about, but I think
it's just noteworthy because it's popular culture and it proves

(30:11):
the power of well power. Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau,
you know, the Canadian Prime minister, have confirmed their relationship
with their first public appearance as a couple in Paris.
Of course it's in Paris, and again I don't really care.
In fact, I don't care at all, but it's noteworthy
because we're talking about the leader of an entire country

(30:33):
and formerly one of the biggest pop stars out of America.
They've decided to make it a thing, and it's been
going on for a while, but now apparently it's official.
And I just know, in this season where things are
falling apart and it's cuffing season, it's getting cold and
people want to, you know, hook up and know the
true love is possible even at the upper echelons of
power and fame. Apparently you can still find true love,

(30:56):
which I think warms everybody hard.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
And then this one.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I knew this would be you because the world's greatest
hype man, the the first thing you think of in
hip hop when when I say hype man. Let's turn
this one to Tenna. Tenna who is the most famous
and most iconic hype man in all of hip hop,
in all of hip hop. Yep, Flavor Flav, correct.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
You are abbam And because he is, he somebody, We're
gonna make him say puffed Eddy.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm a big flav He's he's not a hype man.
He's amazed with if anything was his hype man, but
it's no. I mean, Flave was not the primary rapper.
He would get a verse here or there or throw
in a couple of phrases, but he was all about
yeah boy and the big giant clocks. I mean he
he is iconic when it comes to hip hop. Well, now,

(31:45):
Flavor Flave is apparently completely jacked, according to the headline
of this article on Billboard, to be the official hype
man for USA bob sled and skeleton teams at the
twenty twenty six Winter Olympics. Now, the reason this hit
clobetone for me is one is you're a Flavor Flav guy. Well,
I loved Public Enemy. I still think Public Enemy is
one of the most important American hip hop bands that

(32:07):
ever existed.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Its Flavor Flavor member of that band. He was.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
He was the hype man behind Chuck d and so
he did get some wrapping in there and got a
couple of B side singles that were his own.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
But he was at the end of pa shot.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
You know, I'm gonna be honest, man, that guy's ability
and that guy's innate flow are kind of startling.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
And he does it on the regular. He's good well,
and not only that, I've had the opportunity, because you
know our show follows that, I'll go into the studio
just to you know, once every a couple of weeks
to just catch up with Nordo and he'll be writing
the rap.

Speaker 7 (32:39):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
It's to me, it's like being on a fly on
the wall when Paul Simon rowed over troubled Water. I
mean it's that. No, I'm serious, it's it's it's the
same thing. Watching him put the lyrics together for the rap,
it's astonishing. He's just he's so.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Good at it that it sounds effortless. But I know
it takes real work and years of practice and getting that.
But I mean, you look at Nordo. If someone who
had never met him before you were to look at
Nordo and say that guy has mad flow, they would
laugh in your face. They'd be like, no, he does not,
and in fact, he absolutely does. But the other reason
I love the Flavor Flave announcement is skeleton is my

(33:15):
very favorite Olympic winter sports.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Mine too, especially round Halloween. Yeah, that's a good one.
It's bomb.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Sled's fine, louge is fine. Two man luge still unusual.
Not sure how that got started.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I bet you'd be really good at the couch lose
I know why? Oh well, couch louse. I mean, if
they had that as an event, I would be a
gold medal you know what.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I was so good at couch who I didn't bother
going to the to the practice, to the tryouds. But
skeleton just you head first, a hundred miles an hour, headfirst,
laying down on a little sled. There's nothing between you
and complete oblivion.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
There's a reason that they call it sounds like playing
quarterback for the Minnesota bikeing Not well.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I mean, you know, but if you give him a
little more time to get centered on the sled, or
on the skeleton sled, then I'll be able to complete
the run.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Do you know a singer actress named Renee Rap?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh yeah, very well, I mean I follow her. I
guess I don't know her well. I follow her on TikTok.
Her music's not my style, but she's good at the internet,
she's good at social media.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Well, I just the only reason I bring her up
because I'd never heard of her. But I saw a
story that says, hold on, I saw it Renee Rap.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I know she canceled her last three shows because she's
sick because of vocal issues. Don't know those vocal issues.
I don't you know my And again, my knowledge of
her does not go deep. I am not your one
stop Renee Rap destination. But my understanding is that just
off Broadway, she kind of made a name for herself,
and she's got a sassy, young attitude, a good voice,

(34:47):
she's good at social media. She's very much of the
hip now with it and while I believe you call
it and she's very much in that in that space,
she's very good at social media. She's got a thing happening,
and she's going on this tour. She was just here
a couple of weeks ago, maybe a week ago, I
can't remember exactly. I think she played at the Armory.
So she's playing decent sized venues, but she's very young,

(35:08):
and I think that it's pretty common when you're young,
especially when this is your first big headlining tour, that
you kind of go all out. So I wouldn't be
surprised if she's not sick and just burnt her voice
out trying to rock out at all these shows give
the fans what they want, live up to the expectations,
so I again, I don't have any idea what her
actual situation is, and her songs to me is kind

(35:28):
of cool young gen z pop, you know, not your
typical radio stuff. I don't think she's ready for that,
but she's good at what she does, and she's got
zillions of fans.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
So the highlight of every Brian o'k appearance here on
Rock Talk is, of course, our favorite segment, Rock Rank Rocklank.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Rock Rock Light Rock Rank, rock K Rock Like time,
Come on Rock Run Rock Rank Rock Rank.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
I think you mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.
I thought, Hey, that's a good rock rank idea, So
now we're going to do it today. Your top five
front men in the history of music.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Now, this was a tough one. Aunt. Well, we'll have
to wait and find out. All will be revealed genius.
We'll probably wait tell number one before that one comes, exactly,
so don't yeah, hold your breath. To be very clear
on this, there are a lot of people that qualify
for this, but boy again, boiling it down to the
top five, that's where that's why you have to call

(36:30):
them the experts. You need someone who's willing to make
the tough choices. I did not include a single woman,
not because I don't believe. You know, and we've talked
many times, there are all time legendary, brilliant time exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
So this one is just dudes and just rock and roll.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
And I went with a combination of personal taste but
also impact, Like I mean, like the iconography matters. I
mean the reason that we remember certain frontmen is.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Iconography. I like that, Well that's your your pedestalizing and
iconography was like what you did with that special kind
of writing, here we go. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
No, it's got a lot of graphs and maps involved,
for sure. But when we turn people into when they
become cultural icons, they're there for a reason because they
had a lasting impact. They were larger than life. Their
charisma was literally off the charts. It is killing me
to not include my favorite front man going right now,
Josh Amy, your Queen's of the Stone age on this,
but trust me in my heart of hearts, Josh, You're

(37:23):
currently number one, but I'm going all timer's here, So
starting at number five. A guy who ended up taking
his stage name from the name of the band he
fronted for many years. They were great as a band,
but he became genuinely iconic, truly a singular face and
force in the world of rock music when he went
solo or just moved out in front and took the

(37:45):
band's name for his own.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
And that would be Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
There's no Marilyn Manson with Alice Cooper. And Marilyn Manson
has said as much, and maybe a lot of people
are like, good, no, Maryland, But you can't deny that
the guys had an impact when it comes to them. Well,
you don't even have to respec Marilyn Manson. That guy's
done some dirty dog stuff on the sidelines. And that
being said, I've seen him live a half dozen times,
and I like Marilyn Manson.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Is Alice Cooper the hot What is you called the calligraphy?
No iconography is iconography or do you like him or
both both? That was never an Alice Cooper the band.
I like the band era better than the solo era.
But when you talk about somebody who took a persona
and crafted an image and and well seriously and he
was able to you know, a part of being a

(38:29):
front person is not only are you articulating the words
that go with the music, but you're the face of
the band. You need to have the charisma to be
able to tell the story.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
And then in addition to telling the story, the amount
of props that became involved the amount of theater without
detracting from how good the rock was. Anybody you've watched
to do that over the years owes a huge debt
to Alice Cooper because he carved out new territory. It's
gonna sound silly to some people, but Alice Cooper is
a pioneer man.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
He's just he is a pioneer. Number four best front
men in rock history.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Number four, and some would put him at number one.
Is the monkey Genius, the street fighting man A. Mick
Jagger of the Rolling Stones is absolutely one of the
greatest and most iconic front men of all time.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
You Mick Jaggery yeah. I like the Stones very much,
very yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I mean the Stones are as famous as it gets,
and again, their music is great, but it's really variations
on ripping off Chuck Berry, right. I mean, it's not
like they were ever considered to be this musical powerhouse,
but they had an image, they had a style, and
that was largely defined through the lens of the guy
out front telling the stories.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Good looking, free care. You know.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
The Beatles were so squeaky clean, even though they were brilliant,
much more brilliant musically, But to have someone be a
little DIRTI or a little rock and roll a little
more dare I say sexualized.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Mick Jagger brought that in a way that no one
had done it prior to him. I remember seeing a
quote from Mick Jagger many many years ago where the
six they had a not a bitter ri rivalry with
the Beatles, but they were both the two biggest bands
at the time.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
It was a friendly rivalry. They played each other's stuff
for everybody each other.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I saw where he once said every time the Beatles
would released a song or an album, they would go
I don't know how they do it. They they had
the because they were in their music was so different
than than anything else that was being right, and he
was just astonished at at how they could do it
over and over over again. I just read another piece
where the is it called Beggar's Banquet? Yeah, okay, the

(40:29):
album they were releasing, the album Beggar's Banquet. They were
doing like a private release thing. McCartney showed up and
apparently he had like a EP of like two songs
they did, and told the jockey to put that on,
and it blew everybody away, and everybody was talking about
that instead of that, and I guess Jagger was a
bit annoyed by the whole.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Well, I understandably so. But again then it speaks to
you it's a friendly rivalry, but the word rivalry is
still very much in that phrase. Speaking of Beggar's Bank
at very quick aside, if anyone knows the cover of that,
there's a beautiful the bathroom at the record store workout
has been redone to mimic the entire Beggars Banquet milieu.

(41:10):
The design flow number three Do you want? Number three?
Robert Plant of led Zeppelin. I've been going through a
personal led Zeppelin renaissance lately. Between just listening to the
records again, but also watching that great documentary Becoming Zeppelin.
They just again, Now, this is a band with real
musical chops. Everybody at every position was the top notch

(41:31):
performer in the field. And there's no doubting that Jimmy
Page was the true genius in that band. But again,
in this time where rock was, I mean it always
was with blues and even Elvis Presley, but in an
unprecedented form, sexuality was being pushed to the front right,
and so in addition to unbelievably wild and inventive blues

(41:53):
rock vocal chops, Robert Plant was just a sexy mf
or there's no way around it.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
He was.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
And again, when you think of lead singers, there's not
anybody who loved him.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Oh well, but so did the dudes man loved him,
loved him well as a that's part of the allure
of rock and rolls. That's part of the and I
you know, I've seen lists where people put him his
number one all time, and I'm not mad at that
at all, because I love Zeppelin and I think that
he he really was unique, certainly of the time and
really even since then, of people at that level number two,

(42:26):
number two. This one will not be shared by many people,
but I think that he absolutely made the band what
it was. Jim Morrison the door No, but he was
very close to making this list because so many people
hate him, he's so polarizing, but he was the personality.
He was the persona of that band, the same as
this guy Australian and he had been in the music

(42:48):
industry for years, was just now kind of schlepping gear
and doing tech stuff for a little Aussi blues based
rock out fit and when their lead singer didn't work out,
they asked this guy to give it a shot, and
he did and ended helping them to become one of
the most important rock bands internationally of the nineteen seventies.
And despite his death at way too young in age,

(43:08):
their legacy would go on for decades and decades more.
And that would be Bon Scott of ACDC Bond embodied
this weird spot to look at him, not a handsome man,
not a terribly alluring person, just to see sitting there,
but what he did the amount of menace Because rocket
Roll to me, if it's really rock and roll, it
should be a little dangerous. There should be a little sex.

(43:29):
There should be a little danger. You shouldn't always feel
safe at a rock show.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
And.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
He was this perfect combination of menace and somehow, despite
the fact that he was very average looking, he had
genuine visceral sex appeal. He to me, embodies what a
rock and roll front man is if you don't mind
the greasier and grimeer side of rock and roll, which
I absolutely do not.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Number one Number one means of the stone age guy
that is. That is I told you thought he was
the greatest front man of all time. I know I
never said that.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I said he's my current favorite front man now number
one all time, and I would I if anybody wants
to challenge this, I'm cool with it. But I just
I have so many arguments as to why you're completely wrong.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Freddy Mercury. I absolutely am going with Freddie Mercury. Think
about it.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
A dynamic, super talented, unbelievably charming and frankly, his voice,
the vocal chops alone, even if he just sat still
in a folding chair, would have been stunning. But when
we talk about the theatrics, the signature standless microphone that
he could hoist up and lift around the not full

(44:39):
blown dance moves, but the sort of just the choreography,
the rock choreography that he brought to it, and the
passion that he brought to it. We've never seen his equal,
and I don't know that we ever will again. I
think he's number one all time. What about you, man,
who are some of them you love?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Jim Morrison? Yeah, I agree, David Cassidy, the Partridge Family
also a fine choice. Baby Jones of the Monkeys, not
really the.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Lead singer, but okay, not really a front man, more
of a more of a side fella, a little short
English side fella.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, I would have to. I would have to look again.
I I did not check with Timby with that, right.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Well, that's why I like to check, because then I
can organize my thoughts a little bit, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
I get that. So I would put those. But there
are many others. I was so many others. I was
always a big fan of Eric Burden, Yeah, because he
was great.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
He outpaced that band, he outshown that band, which is
why he went on to a solo career.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
So there are there are many i'ssion about him, not
lest yeah, and then meets us.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
There are a lot of honorable mentions. Look, if Jim
Morrison doesn't make the list, but he's in the honorable mentions,
MEETSA should be happy with.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
His placement here. He knows how I feel about him.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I'm always at home danced around to the whalers like
Tom Cruise and Risky Business. Let me ask you a question.
I think I've been told you have a podcast. It's true, actually,
and I just saw the numbers recently. It's more popular
than I thought, so humble. Thank you to every one
who's ever checked it out. But yeah, it's called The
Brian Oak Show. It is an hour long and you're

(46:05):
between forty five minutes and an hour talking to area musicians, entrepreneurs, politicians, whatever.
It's very very Upper Midwestern centric. Is it iconographic that?

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
We're still working on that right, But you can find
it on the free iHeartRadio app. Five hundred and twenty
seven episodes deep The Brian Oaks Show Podcast. We'll see
you next Wednesday. See you then that's rock Talk.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
We'll take a break. When we come back, I'll be
time for five, three, four ten. What you got for us?
Could we be hearing this again in Minnesota. We like that,
don't like that.
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