October 6, 2025 • 40 mins
Common Man Hour 1 --Wheel of Topics --Peek at the Purple --Skycam --McDavid Contract --McCarthy or Wentz?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
When our best was required. All we do is win
so much to get to today? Where do we start?
The Vikings beat the Browns at the Buzzer, Gophers blown
out at Big House. Gopher men's hockey loses to Michigan Tech,
while the golfer women's team rallies in the third period
against Boston. You, Minnesota United shuts out Sporting KC in
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the regular season home finale, and the MLB playoffs continue.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Not sure where to begin, Let's go ahead and spin
the wheel of top. I want to talk about that
Minnesota United Tech when a Gutty wins Commons golf game.
Oh well, I did play? Say this shot in eighty
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one slash thirty seven? I played twenty seven today? Where'd
we play? I played at Loggers Trail? Where'd you hit it?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
On one?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
At the gut? How far from the greenway? I had
a seven iron in my hand, shot missed the green right?
Then what it had a delicate little pitch to about
two feet? Then what?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Two puttet for par a, one puttet for park. Incredible?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I you know it was one of it's it's I've
I've had a trying year Tennabee.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I think that you know.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I know that you document all of the wheel of
topics when it comes up on commons. Golf came. I
know you you write these things down. You have a
little journal for me. And it's been a trying year.
And it was again it was it was just it
was a mishmash. Same thing up at Golf Golf Toberfest,
up in Brainer, just to missmash, I made how about this?
In a stretch of five holes at Golf Toberfest, I
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went triple triple bogie, birdie, birdie. I mean I did,
It's just it's crazy. Today I felt like I was
starting to figure something out. So I went and played
the back nine a second time and I shot a uh,
I mean eight consecutive pars and I bogied eighteen. So
I think I might be back on my feet again.
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Club was my brush ball, my pant courses, my canvas.
But that can change again tomorrow. There's three things to
my swing.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Big turn, get my wrists loaded like this, and then
stay behind the ball.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
For some reason, I can't do all three. You think
I would be able to, but I can't do it.
I'll either won't make a big enough turn or I
won't set my wrists, or I lean into the ball,
or I do a combination of the three. But when
I played that final nine holes, I was at my best.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
One of my best was required. I always love that one.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's a quote from the head coach of the soon
to be Big Game World champion Minnesota. But I can
see loves that one. I just wish a lot like
your Yeah, yeah, it has the summer very much, So
I just wish his. I wish their best was required
at the opening kickoff. That would that would help, it
would save It's like four I have. I don't always
say myocarditis is some type of inflammation of the heart.
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I don't think I have myocarditis, but it feels like
it watching this club. Sometimes they had to go this
is isn't this the second win? Their last two wins
have come like at the buzzer?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
No, No, the Cincinnati game was oh well there was
there was there other win then Chicago.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Didn't Chicago go right down to the wire. Uh No,
I wouldn't say that either.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I mean we were down on the fourth quarter. That
was the JJ McCarthy forty. Yeah, I mean Pittsburgh, we
came back okay, so that we're making it instin.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's always going down to the down to the wire
with this club except for the Cincinnati game.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And uh that but that's fun, you know again.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I you know, when when you're at the point in
your life when you don't take sports, sports, sports as
your whole life to sports quite as seriously as you
once did, you still have your faves, right. I've been
root for Rando's every once in a while, you know,
like if you're watching a game between a couple of Rando's,
Like I did not watch any of Buffalo New England,
but you know, I was hoping New England would spring
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it upset and they did. It's kind of fun to
root for Rando when you really don't have your heart
and soul.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Invested in a club. It's kind of fun, but it's
kind of cheesy.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That little phrase the coach uses about we were at
our best when our best was required, But that is
exactly what happened, both offensively and defensively. Defensively, the last
possession by the Browns, the Vikings came up with.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
They couldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
They haven't been able to stop the run all season,
and they made another running back look all world again yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That was Judkins? Is that what John Kins? He looked.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
He looked like a combination of well, do you remember
some of you? I don't know if you remember any.
You probably know the names of the old Cleveland Brown greats.
He was a combination of Jim Brown, Leroy Kelly, and
was a le Roy Horde.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
He was here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It was a combination of those three guys. The Vikings
couldn't stop him.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Your mama couldn't stop them, your daddy couldn't stop them.
The police couldn't stop them.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
An ordinary running back looks like an all pro, just
big chunks of yardage. Two But in that final possession
they came up with anything to no gains or maybe
the first one was one yard, or maybe get picked
up a.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yard than the second one. And then.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
What's the coach's name used to be Herefanski decided to
throw the ball on third down. I don't know what
the boys in the booth here on the Viking Radio
network thought of that decision. Tend to be Jonathan Vilma
was bitter about it. He thought they should not have
They should have run it again, because then the Vikings
were able to keep an extra time out, And you know,
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at first I kind of rolled my eyes, shrugged my
shoulder and shook my head and said, yeah, but Jonathan,
he wants to end the game right now. If the
kid can complete a pass, it's basically the game's over
at this point.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I don't blame him for doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But that last time out did come in handy for
the Vikings to have that in their their back pocket.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But I would typically be all for the offense passing
and going for us, but Cleveland might be different than
a normal that's true because you have a quarterback that
I don't know, but you can't trust in that situation.
You don't have any quality receivers of the Jerry Judy
and your strength is your defense, right, so it would
make more sense in this situation.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But either way, it was six and one of us
half dozen the other to me.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But they came up with they stopped the run two
plays in a row to set up a third log.
And whether you liked the decision by Stefansk or now,
you can debate that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm not here to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And then the offense, the offensive line down to third
stringers I think at three different spots. They were able
to provide enough protection that Carson, what wents wrong Wentz
was able to put together a eighty yard drive. He
went nine for nine during that drive. Addison, you know
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what I heard, Tennaby. He missed the walk through because
he took his dog for a walk. That was his problem.
That's how he missed it. To send that you're right
and have them punched it up a bit. But they
put together a drive and they were able to win
the game. So they go to three and two going
into the by critical win. A couple of weeks of
healing now maybe for some of these players that have
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been banged up. And the Vikings have a message for
the MotorCity kitties by the way, in case the kiddies
haven't noticed, I'm just in your.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Mirror, maybe closer than they appear.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We talk Vikings on the side of the break with
peek at the Purple and then all those other topics.
Will only get to a couple of them, but there's
plenty to get to and the coach at two thirty
live from the New Winter Park also known as TCO
Performance Center. All that and more here on the Common
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Speaker 2 (08:04):
A couple thirteen fourteen past. I'm common he is ten
to b. Mark Rosen will return tomorrow before two o'clock.
Head coach of the soon to be Big Game World
champion Minnesota Vikings, Kevin O'Connell this day after the game
news conference a little late.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Generally, I think it does a one twenty ish one thirty.
I'm going at two thirty to day. Probably that time
zone changed. Plenty of time zones to cross too.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Across the ponds, orcadium rhythms, bodycks.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Jet lag, the whole thing is there for the Vikings
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Speaker 1 (09:32):
I think there's another football hitting an inadimate object that's
not getting as much attention as the Vikings one.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
There's there's.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's blown up on the internet on social that will
Reikerd's fifty one yard field goal attempt that which would
have tied the game in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Hit that camera cable. They have the camera.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Everybody's seen that one that runs from one end of
the the field of the other horizontally and it goes
there's a cable that runs all right down the middle
of the field and then that camera.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Goes back and forth and back and forth. Apparently the Jets,
and by.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The way, the Vikings one was that confirmed. I've seen
replays of it. I think it's all everyone's assuming it is.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I'll get to that, but I was going to
say I was just doing the bit about I was
actually doing an inside joe for apathing.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Sorry, yeah, that's okay. So I'll try to get.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
There's another football hitting and inadimate object that is not
getting as much attention I think as the Vikings hitting
the guide guy wire.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Is that the Jets lost a chance at the end zone.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
After their pass hits a sky camp and apparently the
officials botched the rule there. They were supposed to if
it hits skycam, you're supposed to replay that out.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
They did not let the Jets.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
They did not allow them to do that, and I realized,
we're more concerned about the field goal. It looks like
it hits something the way that ball deflected. You're right,
I've not I've not seen the NFL is shooting a
statement that said Nope, our officials didn't see anything. It
seemed like it had to hit something the way that
ball just it looked like it was headed pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Kick and then it just it looked like one of
my T shirts. Yeah it did.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It just suddenly went viciously right. And whether it did
or not, I don't know, but let's say it did
mean that that could have been a game altered well,
of course, yeah, it could have been a game altering development.
The Vikings were able to overcome that when they got
they stopped. Cleveland got the ball back and as the
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aforementioned eighty R drive in which Wentz went nine for nine,
and that drive in the Vikings ended up winning the
ball game. But yeah, it certainly looked like that. And
I don't know, but remember no official saw it. Vikings
didn't complain about it. There was nobody on the field
and said, ill wait a minute, now, how.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Did that happen? So nobody with the Vikings saw it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Fress Reker didn't. Yeah, well you would you think of
anyone who would know it would be him, Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Because he was the one that kicked the ball, and
you would think if he felt like I got a
good kick, because it was weird the way.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And again I didn't think anything of it. I did.
Maybe you were like me when I saw it go
like a wounded duck. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I thought I was I was odd, but I just thought, wow,
he must have really put a bad foot into that.
That was probably just it was almost like a shank, right,
that's what.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It looked like.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I thought it was like a slice combined with maybe
some win. But even you know, if you look those
little flags that are attached to the uprights, I didn't
see any movements on there.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So I don't know if we'll ever get to the
bottom of it, but it could have ended up being
a game altering, season altering development, you know, because the
Vikings again, you know, you win. Now you're one game
behind Detroit.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You got a Vibees basically have two weeks off now, right,
because you have all of this week, then you have
all of the next week before you play again.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
We have a number of players that are that are
banged up, and we were down.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
To four because they pulled darisaw and that was apparently.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
A pitch count. And if I understood the coach correctly,
it's a self imposed.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Pitch clock by dari saw himself. You understood it because
I think he said, yeah, you know, depending this, I
should I should dig up the quote.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
It was on the start of being the day. He
made it seem like, yeah, I just didn't didn't want
to risk it. I don't want to go right, So
it didn't seem like it was a coach's decision. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That's what I'm saying is that it's seemed there that
the coach was saying it was a self imposed pitch
count by dari Saw himself and not the club. But
the coach does say something like, I always deferred. This
isn't the exact quote, but I defer to what the
player says in every way shape for it.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I think that's that's care.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, if you look at a player and go, dude,
I know that you're still concerned about your knee, but
we need you out there. Games on the line, and
then if he goes out there and gets injured, well,
then the coach looks like the guy he knows his body,
he knows now.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know there will be people that will push back
on that, and they'll do the oh you gotta be tough,
you got to suck.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It up, and then yeah, okay, you can make that
argument if you want. But if a player feels like, look,
I had major reconstructive knee surgery and I'm about not
even a full year through it, and there's just apparently
he was. He was feeling it last week when he played.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I think the entire game. So anyway, regardless of what happened,
they had was it three third stringers? Was even four?
They had?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
School He's played everywhere, Brandals never played center in his
entire career, and he starts the game at center.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He had the one snap.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Was was am I thinking of the right game when
he had a slow snap that Wentz was able to
get near the ground. There was one low snap on
the shotgun in that final and Wentz was able to
handle it. It was I don't know it was ankle high,
but it was certainly lower than the knees. Was something
that were about shin high, and Wentz was able to
corral it. That could have that that that could have
derailed that drive as well.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But offensive line came through.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And you know I talked about this with UH with
UH Chad Abbing in the corners office earlier.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I remember last year when I was what's the word
I'm looking for?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I was talking about all the Lions injuries on defense, right,
and I had Viking fans chiding.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Me, suck it up. Next man up.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Quit complaining that's the National Football League. Yet now you
hear Viking fans go world injury over offensive like once
see it goes both ways. Major injuries to key starting
players is it's a fact of life in the in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You take the good, you take the bath.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, and it's it's it's a it it It is
hard to overcome.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's hard. It's not just it is next man up.
That's what you have.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
To say because you got no other choice. You can't
rub the genies lamp, have the genie pop out. Say
you have three wishes your first as you wish for
three more wishes in your second. You wish that all
your players are magically healthy. Again, doesn't work that way.
So to be able to overcome that, that's and again,
the Browns aren't the best club in football. I get
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that their defense is pretty solid. And I thought the
kid for Gabriel, what's his name, Dylan Gabriel, I thought
I thought he played.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Finally, you know, for first very first NFL start.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I mean he had some he had some glaring mistakes,
but but he didn't turn the ball over And I
thought I thought he did pretty well. So, uh, Uh yeah.
So so for the Vikings to be able to to
that last drive. They they again, you know the coach
does the old have to be at your best when
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your best is required.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It was because they provided enough for TWI action.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Jefferson and Addison were really good in that last drive
and the Vikings come up with the victory.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And how much better is it?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You come back, like Jefferson said, you don't want to
get on that plane and come back with two losses,
especially and you're two and three, your two games behind
the kiddies. You got a tough gauntlet coming up with
Philadelphia lost yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
You know they're doing that on ESPN where they're doing that.
Which is which loss is more concerning Eagles or Bills.
If I'm a fan of you those teams, I'm not
concerned about either. You're not.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's really difficult to win seventeen games.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, it's not that big of a deea of those
these teams are also close. Yes, they're all so close.
And those two teams will be fine.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And here's what I'll tell you both, Buffalo, I'm gonna
go out on a limbitinamy. Philadelphia Buffalo will both be
in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I don't think they're gonna be so.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
By the way, the Rei kerd maybe hitting the ball
off the cable and the skycam thing or whatever you
call that thing. I want to see the footage of
the sky camp. Is it possible you see the skycam like,
you know, wiggle a little bit, you could release the footage.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
On the on the jets one. I don't know if
you saw that that one. Oh you could look up
jet sky camp. You can see the ball hit the
sky camp, I mean the sky camp. It hits it
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A small amount of one of your ceilings? Correct? Okay,
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I think tickets a price at like twenty five or something,
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Speaker 1 (20:42):
I hope to see you there. Did you get a
chance to look at the Jets webcam one? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That was a deflected pass? What happened was ye?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I only saw it like going up towards the camera,
So I'm not I was like, how is that pass
going on?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Well? Was it was deflected. It was reflected at the
line of scrimmage. You hit the camera. So you know, Jets,
I mean they should have got the playover because here's
what the rule says.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I looked it up. If a loose ball in play
strikes a video board, guide wire, skycamer any other object,
the ball will be dead immediately and the down will
be replayed at the previous spot. That's what the rule
book says. It also says, in the event the down
is replayed, the game clock will be reset of the
time remaining when the snap occurred, and the clock will
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start on. All will start on the will start on
the snap. All penalties will be disregarded, except for personal
fouls or on sportsmanlike conduct fouls, which will be administered
prior to the replaying of the downs. So the Jets
and been getting a figure out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They kicked a figure, but they should have got the playover,
even though you'd say, well, they had to pass batted away,
but still by the letter of the law, they should have.
So if the vikings, indeed, if Riker did hit the
guide wire. He certainly shouldn't have been he should have
been afforded another opportunity.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Like we say, it was a moment in the game
that would have tied the game. It did not.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Cleveland got the wall that we were able to to
go on to win the game.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So Paul is right.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It would have been interesting though, if they would have
determined that it did hit the wire and they rekick,
because it did, assuming it hit the wire, it did
appear like it was going straight. It was, yes, right,
So you could have had one taken away from you,
and then let's say you missed the next one.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's there's still be some better guess but yeah, right,
that's correct.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
But at least you would have had that, yeah, that
opportunity to do it again. This text message came in
this is this is not bikey related, but I want
to get it to this text measure says Caprice off
at seventeen million, McDavid at twelve point five, which would
ten of prefer Did.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We get fleeced? Did Garrett move directly into another set
of self imposed handcuffs?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Did mc david sign for twelve point five? He signed today,
but just a two year extension. So yeah, I'm sure
from a dollar standpoint. And so what he's doing is
I'm going to make it twelve and a half. I'm
going to give the team every opportunity to win a
Stanley Cup the next two years. And my guess is
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if it's not going well, he's leaving. So you could
look at the positive or the negative.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Side of that. If Aaron admits no other ten I think.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
If caprice Off had signed that deal here, I think
there'd be more panic than the eight year seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
See, and I talked about I've said this a couple
of different times and I'll say it again, and I'm
and this is our I truly two years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I don't know if I liked.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I was hoping that capriceof wanted just half as instead
of eight years he wanted four because I would have
done I would rather do four, because there's no guarantees
caprice Off is going to I mean, there's risks in
all of it. We know with you know, any contract,
there are risks. He could be injured first game of
the season and it could be career andy. Now that's
highly unlikely, but it could or he could never be
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on the injured list again and turn into it a
first ballot ballot what is it called first ballot, first year, no,
first fight unanimous. He could be a first ballot ANAMAS
Hall of Fame hockey player too, So I don't know,
but I would still he's what is he twenty seven
or twenty eight by the time four years goes by?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well, no more was in four years?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You would think that'd be enough time to get a
pretty good idea if we could win a cop because
we have some decent players around him.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
But you know, it's I guess better to have eight
than none at all.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I just I never thought four years was going to
be feasible because you know, he's thirty three when the
four years is up, and yeah, I would assume he's
still going to be prime curl caprice soft by that time.
But to assume that you're going to still get the
big payday at thirty three as suppose a twenty nine,
there's a lot of risk involved there, likely so, but
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I'm the McDavid one, but I'm taking.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I'm taking the money on of it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Though I'm talking about Caprice office here for four years,
making really good money, making his seventy million dollars a year,
but we're mired in the last place and he goes,
I'm out see doing the McDavid thing, except doing it
on his terms or it's four years.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So you're right, I.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Mean, I know caprice Off is probably in it all
of the money. But at the same time, if if,
if winning is really important to you, if you're.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But that's what I'm saying though, like the four years,
I don't think it's feasible you either get the money
for eight or what you're doing McDavid's doing with two,
because McDavid can still now win elsewhere but also still
get paid, Whereas it's unlikely if caprice Off after four years,
he could still win else from but probably wouldn't get
paid as much.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
So you know what I mean. So there's That's.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Why that dot that that that year total never made
sense from a player standpoint to me.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, I see what you're saying, but I I I
don't know I would You're right, I mean, there's gonna
be some teeth shuttering in Edmonton the next two years.
You couldn't you could make that argument.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I still if I'm the player, I think four years fine,
you get to thirty three. I think if you're if
you're still playing at a high level at thirty three,
and if if at that point you've already made a
boat load of money, maybe maybe you go somewhere else
and for not not seventeen million a year, but you
get your twelve and you go to a Stanley Cup contender.
There's a lot of different a lot of different ways
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to look at that equation. But if I was the
player and the team, I would have wanted to If
I was the team, I'd have been asking for four years,
not eight. We saw what happened with Peisi suiter that
handcuffed this team for so long. I don't think the
same good thing's gonna happen with Caprice of But what
the problem is is we don't know. Plus, you know,
the cap is supposed to go up significantly in the
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next year or two, Is that right? Yes, So maybe
that's what McDavid's also thinking about, is that, you know,
if he takes a team or nineteen million now for
four to eight years or whatever, and all of a sudden,
the next thing, you know, the cap goes up so
much he becomes he's not even a.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Top ten, top fifteen paid player anymore. I don't know.
I don't know how much the capitin got in two years.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
He can still get filthy rich and pick spot of
where he wants to win a cup.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
That's correct, Yeah, that is correct. It's it's a topic
that's going to come up again.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I checked my.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
No I checked my email this morning, and I got
a couple thirteen fourteen emails. I mean, the smoke is
the dust is barely settled from the victory, and people wonder,
what do we do at quarterback if McCarthy it come.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You know, we'd always did the QB of the future.
Do we do if he's.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Ready to play against Philadelphia in two weeks? Do you
go with him or do you stay with Onz? Wentz
hasn't Wentz has played very well. They even asked Wins
about it. I saw another quote. I don't know if
you saw this quote, tend Toby. They asked, whence somebody
you know in the post game asked, I think you
should be the starting quarterback or something of that nature.
He just said, at this time in my life, I'm
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just taking in one game at a time, and that's
probably the best way to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
For him.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
For him to come out and say, well, yeah, I'd
like to be quarterback or no, I'm gonna go That's
probably how he really feels.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I just take it a day by day. Sure, you know,
every guy that.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's playing in the league wants to be a starter,
So I'm sure if you know, if you if you
press him, I said, well, yeah, I'd love to keep
being the starting quarterback for the club right now. But
I'm just happy with where we are right now, and
it's going to you know, and the coach has kind
of left it open. He never said that McCarthy's for
sure getting his job back or not. He said, that's
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last week. He said, that's a decision we don't have
to make right now. I don't know how close McCarthy
is to coming back. Those high ankle sprains can be.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
A little they can linger right. Yeah, they don't. They
don't necessarily go away after a week or two.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Uh though it sounds like late last week he was
going to practice within the fields wet.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So they opt to back you. But so matter of fact,
I here's a here's I I printed off some of
the emails. Here's one regarding the question about quarterback situation. Well, basically,
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I guess I can just paraphrase it. He said, where
is it that's about sticks in the Olympics. That's a
different email that we need to get to as well,
because I think people are starting to catch on to
the idea of pogo sticks in the Olympics. Halloween CONTs
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do my is? We could use those from you?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
By the way, Oh, by the way, eleven years ago,
on September thirty of twenty twenty fourteen, there was an
anniversary eleven years ago September thirty, at twenty fourteen, Paul
Chargeian infamously said Brady wasn't the best QB on his team.
Less remembered ours comments about Belichick not being a good
talent of value here.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
So that was I always love that one. Well, anyway,
I can't find the email I was looking for, But nevertheless,
there are people that are wondering what we should do
at the quarterback position. I've said this before tenby I'm
not a I don't like to see a player lose
his job to an injury, right, but this is the
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National Football League. There's a lot of stake. People take
their sports. Sports, sports as your whole life. Just sports
really really seriously, particularly well except for Addison.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
He apparently doesn't really take it. I mean, does does
that bother anybody else? I mean, I don't play for
the club, so it's not that big of a deal.
But you saw what JJ said. I got to do
a better job of keeping my eye on him and
taking him under my way.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Does he really and that can I say this right now?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You know when they do those the combines and all
the teams interview these guys and they give them the
roar shack test and the and the Heimlich maneuver test
and all this they're trying to get. They want to
find out where the guy's head's at, right, that has
that has nothing to do in there, And that's they
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make that up because it's obvious unless Addison he he's
he hasn't grown up yet. He has two incidents involving
automobiles one hundred and forty miles an hour in Saint Paul,
then a you know he you know, he pleaded to
a dumb down charge in California for driving while intoxicated allegedly,
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and now he misses a walk through and the team
is all staying in the same place. It's not like
he's back here in Minneapolis, Like I don't know where
he lives. I say, he lives in you know, you
know Intgrove Heights. Now that's still close to the facilities,
so he should miss it. But he's with the Where
was he what was he doing? How do you miss
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a walk through? It's it's unconscirable. It's just like it's like,
you know, and again, they ended up winning the game,
and he was instrumental late in the game.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
But it's like, especially given he's already had off the
field this year before, it's it's not like a one
time incident where you slept in your alarm to go off.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's just crazy. But anyway, uh, you know, it's because
here here, here's the thing, and people have talked about this.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
They invested a lot of money in the club to win. Now,
don't you don't go get really expensive free agents, and
that's what they did in the middle of the offensive
line with Fries and and and Kelly and then we've
got Hargrave and Allan. You don't pay those guys that
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kind of money if you're not trying to win now,
if you're just trying to break in a new quarterback
and kind of see what happens here, and they should
have They should have been playing with the as if
their window was they won fourteen and three last year.
Donald looks pretty good, by the way, now he had
an interception yesterday that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Was a critical play. He looks really good.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
There I read another I think it was an athletics
story that again, you know, anonymous front office guy with
another team who was just astounded the Vikings didn't sign Darnold.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Couldn't believe it. I got you to fourteen and three. Yeah,
he had a bad game against the Rams or against Detroit.
We get that. But if every guy that had one
bad game, you never you'd never feel the team, right.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I still think part of that might be it was
one hundred million dollars and they wanted to build the lines.
There's a lot of money to play, and you know,
we've all talked about ideally the best case scenario is
if you're going to have a Jade and Daniel situation
where you have a kid under a rookie contract for
four or five years and he is just lights out,
and that's what you're hoping with McCarthy, I think Egle
comes into play a little bit I think quarterback Whisperer
(34:28):
believes he's quarterback whisper and says, you know what, I
can turn water and wine. We're not gonna pay Darling
the money. We're not gonna bring Aaron Rodgers in wet.
We don't want the the Aaron Rodgers circus in town.
We can build this team, and I can coach up
a kid who's never taken a snap in an NFL
game and lead us to the big game.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And maybe that could happen. I'm not saying it can't.
But it's that that that's that's that's uh, what's that's
that's tough to do.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I think in this in this day and age, in
this league, we've seen what some some of these young
quarterback Jade Dais comes right out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
The other guys struggle but get paid.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Do you remember there's a one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I think it's three. Yeah, I think that's exactly what.
It's one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
That's a lot of money. So and you know, it's
not as if Wins has been just spectacular, but he's
been gritty.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
He doesn't make he doesn't make many mistakes because he's
the veteran quarterback. Ah, and I that drive you put together?
You know, tell me how many times have I get
done this bit? You know how I judge a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I don't judge it by wins and losses and in
QBR and all this. I judge by when you have
to make a drive to win a game. You know
you got a time out left, there's a minute two
to go, you got no timeouts or one time and
you need to get the length of the field and score.
Can you do that? Can you be your best when
the best is required? And that's what he did yesterday?
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He was really good.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I think I saw it, and I think and if
you think of two of the drivers are stopped on
by fumbles. Yes, one drive a field goal missed because
they hit the wire any right, So the end score
doesn't look great, But they had chances to put up
a lot more points.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
But when the best was required, they when they played
their best when they're when their best was required. And
I think I saw And I'll dig this quote up
sometime during during the grum here if I get an
opportunity to. But I got to make lunch next something
about I think O'Connell basically said he maybe Wentz was
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recanting what O'Connell told him.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Somewhere.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I read in one of the one of the gamer
stories from from from from some website I might have
been fish Wraps East to wester Athletic that O'Connell went
before the last drive, he went to wins and said,
you just got to trust the protection. You just got
to trust it. You got to stand in there and
we can win. And and the protection was good. Uh,
and they.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Were able to take it on the heat did what
he needed to do. And you're three and two, he's
two and one, and you got to go back.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
And McCarthy wasn't very good, folks. He was really good
in that one quarter. It's not all his fault. But
I don't know how how well does he fare yesterday
in that situation with that offense.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't know. I don't know if he maybe he's brilliant.
He could be.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I'm not. I'm not saying he couldn't have been. But
you know what you got in Wentz right now, and
you don't with macarthy. If you really have designs on continued,
I think it's a I think it's a tougher decision.
Than people think. I get the text messages and emails
from people. There's a last week was we already know
this team's going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
They're terrible.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You gotta let the kid play because we got to
see what we got and get him experienced. Well, do
we know that they're three and two? We see teams
win and lose. We just we we talked about the
Bills just lost and the Eagles. Eagles lost at home.
Bills were at home. They lost to inferior teams. Generally speaking,
if those if those two matchups occurred ten weeks in
a row, Bills and Eagles probably win eight of them, right,
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seven of them.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
And so anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Arizona lost to Tennessee at home and just catastrophic fashion, Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Much to the chagrin of Deuce Spredspur. It's Deuce is
the creator. He's cursed, is what he is. But so
I think it lose both. I don't remember other well.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I think the Cardinals won. He did get like a point.
I mean I just think he well.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I mean they had have lost on that because Tennessee
was the underdog. Yeah, but he got a point somewhere along. Okay,
the other one yeah. I think on one of the
games he got a point or something. I remember what
it was, but it wasn't well, so I don't, I
don't know. I would just say give it another week. Yeah,
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we don't.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
We don't need to make a decision on who's quarterbacking
the rest of the year right now. Let Carson Wentz
in a spike game against Philadelphia. It's a better team, right,
I mean, Carson Wentz is two wins against the Bengals
and the Browns, you know, not the toughest of teams.
Let's give them a chance against the team that's going
to be a playoff team, big game contender in the NFC,
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and see how that goes.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I think that's I think that's because.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
My thing is, I think if you want to be
competitive the rest of the year, I think Carson Wentz
is your best option. But I'm not convinced you're going
to a big game with them, right, and so if
you want a chance at a big game and or
developing potentially a franchise quarterback to see what we have
next year, then McCarthy might be the better option.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I think you're spot on with I'd give them another week.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I would let winz start, even if even if you
know when house that McCarthy's ankles on, because.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'll say you go with Wins.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Let's say Wins has a bad first half. Let's say
the Eagles are all over right, then you're down seventeen
to three, seventeen nothing or twenty one seven. Well, then
you can go to McCarthy at that point. I just
I'd like the way Wins. This played hasn't been perfect, but.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I kind of like that that veteran savvy.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Let's take a break. When we return, Timoby, he's got
a little five three fourth.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, we were beaten down by the buck guys on
Saturday
When our best was required. All we do is win
so much to get to today? Where do we start?
The Vikings beat the Browns at the Buzzer, Gophers blown
out at Big House. Gopher men's hockey loses to Michigan Tech,
while the golfer women's team rallies in the third period
against Boston. You, Minnesota United shuts out Sporting KC in
(00:23):
the regular season home finale, and the MLB playoffs continue.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Not sure where to begin, Let's go ahead and spin
the wheel of top. I want to talk about that
Minnesota United Tech when a Gutty wins Commons golf game.
Oh well, I did play? Say this shot in eighty
(00:48):
one slash thirty seven? I played twenty seven today? Where'd
we play? I played at Loggers Trail? Where'd you hit it?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
On one?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
At the gut? How far from the greenway? I had
a seven iron in my hand, shot missed the green right?
Then what it had a delicate little pitch to about
two feet? Then what?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Two puttet for par a, one puttet for park. Incredible?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I you know it was one of it's it's I've
I've had a trying year Tennabee.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I think that you know.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I know that you document all of the wheel of
topics when it comes up on commons. Golf came. I
know you you write these things down. You have a
little journal for me. And it's been a trying year.
And it was again it was it was just it
was a mishmash. Same thing up at Golf Golf Toberfest,
up in Brainer, just to missmash, I made how about this?
In a stretch of five holes at Golf Toberfest, I
(01:37):
went triple triple bogie, birdie, birdie. I mean I did,
It's just it's crazy. Today I felt like I was
starting to figure something out. So I went and played
the back nine a second time and I shot a uh,
I mean eight consecutive pars and I bogied eighteen. So
I think I might be back on my feet again.
(01:59):
Club was my brush ball, my pant courses, my canvas.
But that can change again tomorrow. There's three things to
my swing.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Big turn, get my wrists loaded like this, and then
stay behind the ball.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
For some reason, I can't do all three. You think
I would be able to, but I can't do it.
I'll either won't make a big enough turn or I
won't set my wrists, or I lean into the ball,
or I do a combination of the three. But when
I played that final nine holes, I was at my best.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
One of my best was required. I always love that one.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's a quote from the head coach of the soon
to be Big Game World champion Minnesota. But I can
see loves that one. I just wish a lot like
your Yeah, yeah, it has the summer very much, So
I just wish his. I wish their best was required
at the opening kickoff. That would that would help, it
would save It's like four I have. I don't always
say myocarditis is some type of inflammation of the heart.
(02:56):
I don't think I have myocarditis, but it feels like
it watching this club. Sometimes they had to go this
is isn't this the second win? Their last two wins
have come like at the buzzer?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
No, No, the Cincinnati game was oh well there was
there was there other win then Chicago.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Didn't Chicago go right down to the wire. Uh No,
I wouldn't say that either.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I mean we were down on the fourth quarter. That
was the JJ McCarthy forty. Yeah, I mean Pittsburgh, we
came back okay, so that we're making it instin.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's always going down to the down to the wire
with this club except for the Cincinnati game.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And uh that but that's fun, you know again.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I you know, when when you're at the point in
your life when you don't take sports, sports, sports as
your whole life to sports quite as seriously as you
once did, you still have your faves, right. I've been
root for Rando's every once in a while, you know,
like if you're watching a game between a couple of Rando's,
Like I did not watch any of Buffalo New England,
but you know, I was hoping New England would spring
(03:56):
it upset and they did. It's kind of fun to
root for Rando when you really don't have your heart
and soul.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Invested in a club. It's kind of fun, but it's
kind of cheesy.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That little phrase the coach uses about we were at
our best when our best was required, But that is
exactly what happened, both offensively and defensively. Defensively, the last
possession by the Browns, the Vikings came up with.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
They couldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
They haven't been able to stop the run all season,
and they made another running back look all world again yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That was Judkins? Is that what John Kins? He looked.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
He looked like a combination of well, do you remember
some of you? I don't know if you remember any.
You probably know the names of the old Cleveland Brown greats.
He was a combination of Jim Brown, Leroy Kelly, and
was a le Roy Horde.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
He was here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It was a combination of those three guys. The Vikings
couldn't stop him.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Your mama couldn't stop them, your daddy couldn't stop them.
The police couldn't stop them.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
An ordinary running back looks like an all pro, just
big chunks of yardage. Two But in that final possession
they came up with anything to no gains or maybe
the first one was one yard, or maybe get picked
up a.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yard than the second one. And then.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
What's the coach's name used to be Herefanski decided to
throw the ball on third down. I don't know what
the boys in the booth here on the Viking Radio
network thought of that decision. Tend to be Jonathan Vilma
was bitter about it. He thought they should not have
They should have run it again, because then the Vikings
were able to keep an extra time out, And you know,
(05:40):
at first I kind of rolled my eyes, shrugged my
shoulder and shook my head and said, yeah, but Jonathan,
he wants to end the game right now. If the
kid can complete a pass, it's basically the game's over
at this point.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I don't blame him for doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But that last time out did come in handy for
the Vikings to have that in their their back pocket.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But I would typically be all for the offense passing
and going for us, but Cleveland might be different than
a normal that's true because you have a quarterback that
I don't know, but you can't trust in that situation.
You don't have any quality receivers of the Jerry Judy
and your strength is your defense, right, so it would
make more sense in this situation.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But either way, it was six and one of us
half dozen the other to me.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But they came up with they stopped the run two
plays in a row to set up a third log.
And whether you liked the decision by Stefansk or now,
you can debate that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm not here to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And then the offense, the offensive line down to third
stringers I think at three different spots. They were able
to provide enough protection that Carson, what wents wrong Wentz
was able to put together a eighty yard drive. He
went nine for nine during that drive. Addison, you know
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what I heard, Tennaby. He missed the walk through because
he took his dog for a walk. That was his problem.
That's how he missed it. To send that you're right
and have them punched it up a bit. But they
put together a drive and they were able to win
the game. So they go to three and two going
into the by critical win. A couple of weeks of
healing now maybe for some of these players that have
(07:14):
been banged up. And the Vikings have a message for
the MotorCity kitties by the way, in case the kiddies
haven't noticed, I'm just in your.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Mirror, maybe closer than they appear.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We talk Vikings on the side of the break with
peek at the Purple and then all those other topics.
Will only get to a couple of them, but there's
plenty to get to and the coach at two thirty
live from the New Winter Park also known as TCO
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Speaker 2 (08:04):
A couple thirteen fourteen past. I'm common he is ten
to b. Mark Rosen will return tomorrow before two o'clock.
Head coach of the soon to be Big Game World
champion Minnesota Vikings, Kevin O'Connell this day after the game
news conference a little late.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Generally, I think it does a one twenty ish one thirty.
I'm going at two thirty to day. Probably that time
zone changed. Plenty of time zones to cross too.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Across the ponds, orcadium rhythms, bodycks.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Jet lag, the whole thing is there for the Vikings
and the head coach.
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Speaker 1 (09:32):
I think there's another football hitting an inadimate object that's
not getting as much attention as the Vikings one.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
There's there's.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's blown up on the internet on social that will
Reikerd's fifty one yard field goal attempt that which would
have tied the game in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Hit that camera cable. They have the camera.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Everybody's seen that one that runs from one end of
the the field of the other horizontally and it goes
there's a cable that runs all right down the middle
of the field and then that camera.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Goes back and forth and back and forth. Apparently the Jets,
and by.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The way, the Vikings one was that confirmed. I've seen
replays of it. I think it's all everyone's assuming it is.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I'll get to that, but I was going to
say I was just doing the bit about I was
actually doing an inside joe for apathing.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Sorry, yeah, that's okay. So I'll try to get.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
There's another football hitting and inadimate object that is not
getting as much attention I think as the Vikings hitting
the guide guy wire.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Is that the Jets lost a chance at the end zone.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
After their pass hits a sky camp and apparently the
officials botched the rule there. They were supposed to if
it hits skycam, you're supposed to replay that out.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
They did not let the Jets.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
They did not allow them to do that, and I realized,
we're more concerned about the field goal. It looks like
it hits something the way that ball deflected. You're right,
I've not I've not seen the NFL is shooting a
statement that said Nope, our officials didn't see anything. It
seemed like it had to hit something the way that
ball just it looked like it was headed pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Kick and then it just it looked like one of
my T shirts. Yeah it did.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It just suddenly went viciously right. And whether it did
or not, I don't know, but let's say it did
mean that that could have been a game altered well,
of course, yeah, it could have been a game altering development.
The Vikings were able to overcome that when they got
they stopped. Cleveland got the ball back and as the
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aforementioned eighty R drive in which Wentz went nine for nine,
and that drive in the Vikings ended up winning the
ball game. But yeah, it certainly looked like that. And
I don't know, but remember no official saw it. Vikings
didn't complain about it. There was nobody on the field
and said, ill wait a minute, now, how.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Did that happen? So nobody with the Vikings saw it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Fress Reker didn't. Yeah, well you would you think of
anyone who would know it would be him, Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Because he was the one that kicked the ball, and
you would think if he felt like I got a
good kick, because it was weird the way.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And again I didn't think anything of it. I did.
Maybe you were like me when I saw it go
like a wounded duck. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I thought I was I was odd, but I just thought, wow,
he must have really put a bad foot into that.
That was probably just it was almost like a shank, right,
that's what.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It looked like.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I thought it was like a slice combined with maybe
some win. But even you know, if you look those
little flags that are attached to the uprights, I didn't
see any movements on there.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So I don't know if we'll ever get to the
bottom of it, but it could have ended up being
a game altering, season altering development, you know, because the
Vikings again, you know, you win. Now you're one game
behind Detroit.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You got a Vibees basically have two weeks off now, right,
because you have all of this week, then you have
all of the next week before you play again.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
We have a number of players that are that are
banged up, and we were down.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
To four because they pulled darisaw and that was apparently.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
A pitch count. And if I understood the coach correctly,
it's a self imposed.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Pitch clock by dari saw himself. You understood it because
I think he said, yeah, you know, depending this, I
should I should dig up the quote.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
It was on the start of being the day. He
made it seem like, yeah, I just didn't didn't want
to risk it. I don't want to go right, So
it didn't seem like it was a coach's decision. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That's what I'm saying is that it's seemed there that
the coach was saying it was a self imposed pitch
count by dari Saw himself and not the club. But
the coach does say something like, I always deferred. This
isn't the exact quote, but I defer to what the
player says in every way shape for it.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I think that's that's care.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, if you look at a player and go, dude,
I know that you're still concerned about your knee, but
we need you out there. Games on the line, and
then if he goes out there and gets injured, well,
then the coach looks like the guy he knows his body,
he knows now.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know there will be people that will push back
on that, and they'll do the oh you gotta be tough,
you got to suck.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It up, and then yeah, okay, you can make that
argument if you want. But if a player feels like, look,
I had major reconstructive knee surgery and I'm about not
even a full year through it, and there's just apparently
he was. He was feeling it last week when he played.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I think the entire game. So anyway, regardless of what happened,
they had was it three third stringers? Was even four?
They had?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
School He's played everywhere, Brandals never played center in his
entire career, and he starts the game at center.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He had the one snap.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Was was am I thinking of the right game when
he had a slow snap that Wentz was able to
get near the ground. There was one low snap on
the shotgun in that final and Wentz was able to
handle it. It was I don't know it was ankle high,
but it was certainly lower than the knees. Was something
that were about shin high, and Wentz was able to
corral it. That could have that that that could have
derailed that drive as well.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But offensive line came through.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And you know I talked about this with UH with
UH Chad Abbing in the corners office earlier.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I remember last year when I was what's the word
I'm looking for?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I was talking about all the Lions injuries on defense, right,
and I had Viking fans chiding.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Me, suck it up. Next man up.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Quit complaining that's the National Football League. Yet now you
hear Viking fans go world injury over offensive like once
see it goes both ways. Major injuries to key starting
players is it's a fact of life in the in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You take the good, you take the bath.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, and it's it's it's a it it It is
hard to overcome.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's hard. It's not just it is next man up.
That's what you have.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
To say because you got no other choice. You can't
rub the genies lamp, have the genie pop out. Say
you have three wishes your first as you wish for
three more wishes in your second. You wish that all
your players are magically healthy. Again, doesn't work that way.
So to be able to overcome that, that's and again,
the Browns aren't the best club in football. I get
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that their defense is pretty solid. And I thought the
kid for Gabriel, what's his name, Dylan Gabriel, I thought
I thought he played.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Finally, you know, for first very first NFL start.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I mean he had some he had some glaring mistakes,
but but he didn't turn the ball over And I
thought I thought he did pretty well. So, uh, Uh yeah.
So so for the Vikings to be able to to
that last drive. They they again, you know the coach
does the old have to be at your best when
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your best is required.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It was because they provided enough for TWI action.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Jefferson and Addison were really good in that last drive
and the Vikings come up with the victory.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And how much better is it?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You come back, like Jefferson said, you don't want to
get on that plane and come back with two losses,
especially and you're two and three, your two games behind
the kiddies. You got a tough gauntlet coming up with
Philadelphia lost yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
You know they're doing that on ESPN where they're doing that.
Which is which loss is more concerning Eagles or Bills.
If I'm a fan of you those teams, I'm not
concerned about either. You're not.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's really difficult to win seventeen games.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, it's not that big of a deea of those
these teams are also close. Yes, they're all so close.
And those two teams will be fine.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And here's what I'll tell you both, Buffalo, I'm gonna
go out on a limbitinamy. Philadelphia Buffalo will both be
in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I don't think they're gonna be so.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
By the way, the Rei kerd maybe hitting the ball
off the cable and the skycam thing or whatever you
call that thing. I want to see the footage of
the sky camp. Is it possible you see the skycam like,
you know, wiggle a little bit, you could release the footage.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
On the on the jets one. I don't know if
you saw that that one. Oh you could look up
jet sky camp. You can see the ball hit the
sky camp, I mean the sky camp. It hits it
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Speaker 1 (20:42):
I hope to see you there. Did you get a
chance to look at the Jets webcam one? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That was a deflected pass? What happened was ye?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I only saw it like going up towards the camera,
So I'm not I was like, how is that pass
going on?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Well? Was it was deflected. It was reflected at the
line of scrimmage. You hit the camera. So you know, Jets,
I mean they should have got the playover because here's
what the rule says.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I looked it up. If a loose ball in play
strikes a video board, guide wire, skycamer any other object,
the ball will be dead immediately and the down will
be replayed at the previous spot. That's what the rule
book says. It also says, in the event the down
is replayed, the game clock will be reset of the
time remaining when the snap occurred, and the clock will
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start on. All will start on the will start on
the snap. All penalties will be disregarded, except for personal
fouls or on sportsmanlike conduct fouls, which will be administered
prior to the replaying of the downs. So the Jets
and been getting a figure out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They kicked a figure, but they should have got the playover,
even though you'd say, well, they had to pass batted away,
but still by the letter of the law, they should have.
So if the vikings, indeed, if Riker did hit the
guide wire. He certainly shouldn't have been he should have
been afforded another opportunity.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Like we say, it was a moment in the game
that would have tied the game. It did not.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Cleveland got the wall that we were able to to
go on to win the game.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So Paul is right.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It would have been interesting though, if they would have
determined that it did hit the wire and they rekick,
because it did, assuming it hit the wire, it did
appear like it was going straight. It was, yes, right,
So you could have had one taken away from you,
and then let's say you missed the next one.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's there's still be some better guess but yeah, right,
that's correct.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
But at least you would have had that, yeah, that
opportunity to do it again. This text message came in
this is this is not bikey related, but I want
to get it to this text measure says Caprice off
at seventeen million, McDavid at twelve point five, which would
ten of prefer Did.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We get fleeced? Did Garrett move directly into another set
of self imposed handcuffs?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Did mc david sign for twelve point five? He signed today,
but just a two year extension. So yeah, I'm sure
from a dollar standpoint. And so what he's doing is
I'm going to make it twelve and a half. I'm
going to give the team every opportunity to win a
Stanley Cup the next two years. And my guess is
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if it's not going well, he's leaving. So you could
look at the positive or the negative.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Side of that. If Aaron admits no other ten I think.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
If caprice Off had signed that deal here, I think
there'd be more panic than the eight year seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
See, and I talked about I've said this a couple
of different times and I'll say it again, and I'm
and this is our I truly two years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I don't know if I liked.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I was hoping that capriceof wanted just half as instead
of eight years he wanted four because I would have
done I would rather do four, because there's no guarantees
caprice Off is going to I mean, there's risks in
all of it. We know with you know, any contract,
there are risks. He could be injured first game of
the season and it could be career andy. Now that's
highly unlikely, but it could or he could never be
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on the injured list again and turn into it a
first ballot ballot what is it called first ballot, first year, no,
first fight unanimous. He could be a first ballot ANAMAS
Hall of Fame hockey player too, So I don't know,
but I would still he's what is he twenty seven
or twenty eight by the time four years goes by?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well, no more was in four years?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You would think that'd be enough time to get a
pretty good idea if we could win a cop because
we have some decent players around him.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
But you know, it's I guess better to have eight
than none at all.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I just I never thought four years was going to
be feasible because you know, he's thirty three when the
four years is up, and yeah, I would assume he's
still going to be prime curl caprice soft by that time.
But to assume that you're going to still get the
big payday at thirty three as suppose a twenty nine,
there's a lot of risk involved there, likely so, but
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I'm the McDavid one, but I'm taking.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I'm taking the money on of it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Though I'm talking about Caprice office here for four years,
making really good money, making his seventy million dollars a year,
but we're mired in the last place and he goes,
I'm out see doing the McDavid thing, except doing it
on his terms or it's four years.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So you're right, I.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Mean, I know caprice Off is probably in it all
of the money. But at the same time, if if,
if winning is really important to you, if you're.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But that's what I'm saying though, like the four years,
I don't think it's feasible you either get the money
for eight or what you're doing McDavid's doing with two,
because McDavid can still now win elsewhere but also still
get paid, Whereas it's unlikely if caprice Off after four years,
he could still win else from but probably wouldn't get
paid as much.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
So you know what I mean. So there's That's.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Why that dot that that that year total never made
sense from a player standpoint to me.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, I see what you're saying, but I I I
don't know I would You're right, I mean, there's gonna
be some teeth shuttering in Edmonton the next two years.
You couldn't you could make that argument.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I still if I'm the player, I think four years fine,
you get to thirty three. I think if you're if
you're still playing at a high level at thirty three,
and if if at that point you've already made a
boat load of money, maybe maybe you go somewhere else
and for not not seventeen million a year, but you
get your twelve and you go to a Stanley Cup contender.
There's a lot of different a lot of different ways
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to look at that equation. But if I was the
player and the team, I would have wanted to If
I was the team, I'd have been asking for four years,
not eight. We saw what happened with Peisi suiter that
handcuffed this team for so long. I don't think the
same good thing's gonna happen with Caprice of But what
the problem is is we don't know. Plus, you know,
the cap is supposed to go up significantly in the
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next year or two, Is that right? Yes, So maybe
that's what McDavid's also thinking about, is that, you know,
if he takes a team or nineteen million now for
four to eight years or whatever, and all of a sudden,
the next thing, you know, the cap goes up so
much he becomes he's not even a.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Top ten, top fifteen paid player anymore. I don't know.
I don't know how much the capitin got in two years.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
He can still get filthy rich and pick spot of
where he wants to win a cup.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
That's correct, Yeah, that is correct. It's it's a topic
that's going to come up again.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I checked my.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
No I checked my email this morning, and I got
a couple thirteen fourteen emails. I mean, the smoke is
the dust is barely settled from the victory, and people wonder,
what do we do at quarterback if McCarthy it come.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You know, we'd always did the QB of the future.
Do we do if he's.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Ready to play against Philadelphia in two weeks? Do you
go with him or do you stay with Onz? Wentz
hasn't Wentz has played very well. They even asked Wins
about it. I saw another quote. I don't know if
you saw this quote, tend Toby. They asked, whence somebody
you know in the post game asked, I think you
should be the starting quarterback or something of that nature.
He just said, at this time in my life, I'm
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just taking in one game at a time, and that's
probably the best way to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
For him.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
For him to come out and say, well, yeah, I'd
like to be quarterback or no, I'm gonna go That's
probably how he really feels.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I just take it a day by day. Sure, you know,
every guy that.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's playing in the league wants to be a starter,
So I'm sure if you know, if you if you
press him, I said, well, yeah, I'd love to keep
being the starting quarterback for the club right now. But
I'm just happy with where we are right now, and
it's going to you know, and the coach has kind
of left it open. He never said that McCarthy's for
sure getting his job back or not. He said, that's
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last week. He said, that's a decision we don't have
to make right now. I don't know how close McCarthy
is to coming back. Those high ankle sprains can be.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
A little they can linger right. Yeah, they don't. They
don't necessarily go away after a week or two.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Uh though it sounds like late last week he was
going to practice within the fields wet.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So they opt to back you. But so matter of fact,
I here's a here's I I printed off some of
the emails. Here's one regarding the question about quarterback situation. Well, basically,
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I guess I can just paraphrase it. He said, where
is it that's about sticks in the Olympics. That's a
different email that we need to get to as well,
because I think people are starting to catch on to
the idea of pogo sticks in the Olympics. Halloween CONTs
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do my is? We could use those from you?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
By the way, Oh, by the way, eleven years ago,
on September thirty of twenty twenty fourteen, there was an
anniversary eleven years ago September thirty, at twenty fourteen, Paul
Chargeian infamously said Brady wasn't the best QB on his team.
Less remembered ours comments about Belichick not being a good
talent of value here.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
So that was I always love that one. Well, anyway,
I can't find the email I was looking for, But nevertheless,
there are people that are wondering what we should do
at the quarterback position. I've said this before tenby I'm
not a I don't like to see a player lose
his job to an injury, right, but this is the
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National Football League. There's a lot of stake. People take
their sports. Sports, sports as your whole life. Just sports
really really seriously, particularly well except for Addison.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
He apparently doesn't really take it. I mean, does does
that bother anybody else? I mean, I don't play for
the club, so it's not that big of a deal.
But you saw what JJ said. I got to do
a better job of keeping my eye on him and
taking him under my way.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Does he really and that can I say this right now?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You know when they do those the combines and all
the teams interview these guys and they give them the
roar shack test and the and the Heimlich maneuver test
and all this they're trying to get. They want to
find out where the guy's head's at, right, that has
that has nothing to do in there, And that's they
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make that up because it's obvious unless Addison he he's
he hasn't grown up yet. He has two incidents involving
automobiles one hundred and forty miles an hour in Saint Paul,
then a you know he you know, he pleaded to
a dumb down charge in California for driving while intoxicated allegedly,
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and now he misses a walk through and the team
is all staying in the same place. It's not like
he's back here in Minneapolis, Like I don't know where
he lives. I say, he lives in you know, you
know Intgrove Heights. Now that's still close to the facilities,
so he should miss it. But he's with the Where
was he what was he doing? How do you miss
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a walk through? It's it's unconscirable. It's just like it's like,
you know, and again, they ended up winning the game,
and he was instrumental late in the game.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
But it's like, especially given he's already had off the
field this year before, it's it's not like a one
time incident where you slept in your alarm to go off.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's just crazy. But anyway, uh, you know, it's because
here here, here's the thing, and people have talked about this.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
They invested a lot of money in the club to win. Now,
don't you don't go get really expensive free agents, and
that's what they did in the middle of the offensive
line with Fries and and and Kelly and then we've
got Hargrave and Allan. You don't pay those guys that
(33:20):
kind of money if you're not trying to win now,
if you're just trying to break in a new quarterback
and kind of see what happens here, and they should
have They should have been playing with the as if
their window was they won fourteen and three last year.
Donald looks pretty good, by the way, now he had
an interception yesterday that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Was a critical play. He looks really good.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
There I read another I think it was an athletics
story that again, you know, anonymous front office guy with
another team who was just astounded the Vikings didn't sign Darnold.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Couldn't believe it. I got you to fourteen and three. Yeah,
he had a bad game against the Rams or against Detroit.
We get that. But if every guy that had one
bad game, you never you'd never feel the team, right.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I still think part of that might be it was
one hundred million dollars and they wanted to build the lines.
There's a lot of money to play, and you know,
we've all talked about ideally the best case scenario is
if you're going to have a Jade and Daniel situation
where you have a kid under a rookie contract for
four or five years and he is just lights out,
and that's what you're hoping with McCarthy, I think Egle
comes into play a little bit I think quarterback Whisperer
(34:28):
believes he's quarterback whisper and says, you know what, I
can turn water and wine. We're not gonna pay Darling
the money. We're not gonna bring Aaron Rodgers in wet.
We don't want the the Aaron Rodgers circus in town.
We can build this team, and I can coach up
a kid who's never taken a snap in an NFL
game and lead us to the big game.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And maybe that could happen. I'm not saying it can't.
But it's that that that's that's that's uh, what's that's
that's tough to do.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I think in this in this day and age, in
this league, we've seen what some some of these young
quarterback Jade Dais comes right out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
The other guys struggle but get paid.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Do you remember there's a one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I think it's three. Yeah, I think that's exactly what.
It's one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
That's a lot of money. So and you know, it's
not as if Wins has been just spectacular, but he's
been gritty.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
He doesn't make he doesn't make many mistakes because he's
the veteran quarterback. Ah, and I that drive you put together?
You know, tell me how many times have I get
done this bit? You know how I judge a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I don't judge it by wins and losses and in
QBR and all this. I judge by when you have
to make a drive to win a game. You know
you got a time out left, there's a minute two
to go, you got no timeouts or one time and
you need to get the length of the field and score.
Can you do that? Can you be your best when
the best is required? And that's what he did yesterday?
(36:05):
He was really good.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I think I saw it, and I think and if
you think of two of the drivers are stopped on
by fumbles. Yes, one drive a field goal missed because
they hit the wire any right, So the end score
doesn't look great, But they had chances to put up
a lot more points.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
But when the best was required, they when they played
their best when they're when their best was required. And
I think I saw And I'll dig this quote up
sometime during during the grum here if I get an
opportunity to. But I got to make lunch next something
about I think O'Connell basically said he maybe Wentz was
(36:43):
recanting what O'Connell told him.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Somewhere.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I read in one of the one of the gamer
stories from from from from some website I might have
been fish Wraps East to wester Athletic that O'Connell went
before the last drive, he went to wins and said,
you just got to trust the protection. You just got
to trust it. You got to stand in there and
we can win. And and the protection was good. Uh,
and they.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Were able to take it on the heat did what
he needed to do. And you're three and two, he's
two and one, and you got to go back.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
And McCarthy wasn't very good, folks. He was really good
in that one quarter. It's not all his fault. But
I don't know how how well does he fare yesterday
in that situation with that offense.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't know. I don't know if he maybe he's brilliant.
He could be.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I'm not. I'm not saying he couldn't have been. But
you know what you got in Wentz right now, and
you don't with macarthy. If you really have designs on continued,
I think it's a I think it's a tougher decision.
Than people think. I get the text messages and emails
from people. There's a last week was we already know
this team's going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
They're terrible.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You gotta let the kid play because we got to
see what we got and get him experienced. Well, do
we know that they're three and two? We see teams
win and lose. We just we we talked about the
Bills just lost and the Eagles. Eagles lost at home.
Bills were at home. They lost to inferior teams. Generally speaking,
if those if those two matchups occurred ten weeks in
a row, Bills and Eagles probably win eight of them, right,
(38:10):
seven of them.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
And so anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Arizona lost to Tennessee at home and just catastrophic fashion, Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Much to the chagrin of Deuce Spredspur. It's Deuce is
the creator. He's cursed, is what he is. But so
I think it lose both. I don't remember other well.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I think the Cardinals won. He did get like a point.
I mean I just think he well.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I mean they had have lost on that because Tennessee
was the underdog. Yeah, but he got a point somewhere along. Okay,
the other one yeah. I think on one of the
games he got a point or something. I remember what
it was, but it wasn't well, so I don't, I
don't know. I would just say give it another week. Yeah,
(38:54):
we don't.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
We don't need to make a decision on who's quarterbacking
the rest of the year right now. Let Carson Wentz
in a spike game against Philadelphia. It's a better team, right,
I mean, Carson Wentz is two wins against the Bengals
and the Browns, you know, not the toughest of teams.
Let's give them a chance against the team that's going
to be a playoff team, big game contender in the NFC,
(39:17):
and see how that goes.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I think that's I think that's because.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
My thing is, I think if you want to be
competitive the rest of the year, I think Carson Wentz
is your best option. But I'm not convinced you're going
to a big game with them, right, and so if
you want a chance at a big game and or
developing potentially a franchise quarterback to see what we have
next year, then McCarthy might be the better option.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I think you're spot on with I'd give them another week.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I would let winz start, even if even if you
know when house that McCarthy's ankles on, because.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'll say you go with Wins.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Let's say Wins has a bad first half. Let's say
the Eagles are all over right, then you're down seventeen
to three, seventeen nothing or twenty one seven. Well, then
you can go to McCarthy at that point. I just
I'd like the way Wins. This played hasn't been perfect, but.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I kind of like that that veteran savvy.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Let's take a break. When we return, Timoby, he's got
a little five three fourth.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, we were beaten down by the buck guys on
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