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Common Man Hour 2 --5 Questions --Wolves Predictions --Storming The Field --JJ Regrets?
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Past common Man program I'm comedies tend to be quick
text message before we dive into five three four. This
one says Tenna is the equivalent of Rosmer. He's just
biting and waiting for a slot. Will he go somewhere
else or stay faithful to the covenant? Common is Wentce
beaten down day in and day out, but he shows up?
(01:00):
Is JJ Chad Abbott never round and only will be
when he's one hundred percent. That's a probably pretty fair
description of the three voice. I think that's probably a
fairly If it's a compliment, I think it actually is.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
No time now for five to three four? Time now four.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Five questions, Well, actually three, but five sounds like more
than four. Question number one, it's time now for.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
A full choice.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Common Where will the Timberwolves most likely finish the season?
A in the NBA Finals, B in the Western Conference Championship,
CE one and done in the playoffs or d they
won't make the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Is there a semi final appearance? And then bump because
that wasn't in that list.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, I mean because I think that's where you'd go. Well,
I think they'll make the playoffs. I you know, this
is the tough love couple here. I'm gonna you know,
there's always what is it called when you have a qualifier?
What's the word I'm looking for that kid? You know
that it's like if if I have to say, I
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think they can get to the NBA finals, But there's
big ifs, and that is I think I'm the only
one in this town that is still not completely falling
in love with Anthony Edwards. That he's just this wonderful
player and he can do no wrong, and oh, he's
the best player in the NBA, and we love him
so much, and he's AUNT and he's this and that
he lives rent free in my head. And we've we've
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we've had stories here in the last couple of weeks
leading up to the start of the season that the
members of the organization obviously feel the same way about
Aunt that I do, and but fans get blinded because
they don't want to think there's any negatives with any players,
especially the star players, and with Aunt there is that
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I don't know if it's an immaturity level, but not
wanting to play.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
They have to say to him.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They had a meeting and said, we need you to
play defense all the time, start to finish, because he
doesn't always want to play defense.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He doesn't want to do that. He doesn't want to
do this.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And so I is as immensely talented as he is,
and he is a top ten player in the league.
He didn't get enough sleep, he admitted, I you know
I don't get enough. Well, you got to take your
job seriously, dud, especially at this level. I don't need
to take my job seriously because I don't change lives.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I save lives.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But if you're in the NBA and getting paid that
ton of money, man, and you want to get to
the NBA, and he realizes now he needs I mean,
he says, well, they asked, what are you going to
do to stay interested? Well, maybe I'll just try to
have career highs in scoring. I would just try to
win a lot of basketball games. As good as he's been,
he's also been part of their issue, the reason they
can't advance and the reason they are the sixth seed.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Now, even though they were the sixth seed, they got
to the.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Western Conference finals last two years, the year before or
we were the third seed. I don't even remember now,
third or fourth. Last year we were the sixth. We
still got to the finals. So the seeding didn't we.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Were at the six detail like the last day. Remember
we were in that play in range exactly. And so
if he is able to do those things, play defense,
start to finish, if he's if he's able to to
not take too much. I mean, every guy's going to
take off a player too.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I guess it's just that is you know, you know,
it's it's it's it's it is a very.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I don't know. Grueling is the right. It takes a
lot of energy.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It takes a lot of efforts up and down the court,
back and forth, back and before you're playing offense and defense, right,
and so, but if he but if he can play
defense like they say he's capable of, if he can
develop that mid range jump shot, if he can, if
he cannot get frustrated when teams are double team him
and all the time and taking him out of the
game offensively, There's no reason why I don't think the
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team can't at least get back to the Western Conference Finals.
But I think it all depends on and we talked
yesterday with Rosen, so much of it I think depends
on Randal. Can Randall stay healthy and can he play
those last what twenty four to twenty five games whatever
it was, he was brilliant. If he can play like that,
this team should be really, really good. So I'll I'll
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say semifinals for sure, and I'll give him Western Conference
Finals until they get to the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I'm not picking them to get there. How about you?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Do you have a I agree with Patrick Roycie's call
him today in the start of viewing that I think
a lot of this depends on Dilly Dilly, just because
you lost Nah, right, and you lost a little bit
of your depth, and now you're depending on young guys
to replace that. I will say what I do like is,
for the most part, this team's now coming back for
a second year, right. Yeah, the team made a big
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jump in Rudy Gobert's second year with the team once
they got the Twin Towers figured out, and then they
traded Karl Anthony Towns the week before the season, and
it took them, you know, half a season, two thirds
of the season to find the chemistry. Now you're kind
of bringing that back for a second year. And I
do see a scenario which Ant gets better. But I
do think guys like Dillingham and Terrence Shannon Junior are
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going to determine a lot from a depth standpoint because
you're going to take down okay see in the playoffs,
You're gonna have to have depth.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think that's spot on.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Charlie's shin number two waiting for it's time for.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
The seventh inning stretch.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
The Los Angeles Dodgers four ace pitchers, Blake Snell, Yoshinobu,
I can't even say.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yoshinobu, Ya Momoto.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Tyler Glass Now, and Shoho Tani have combined for a
one point four oh e ra A and eighty one
strikeouts over their ten postseason starts.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Is that good? Common?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Is this the greatest starting rotation in Major League Baseball history?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No? I think that. I still think the greatest starting pitching.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Staff in Major League Baseball history, where the nineteen sixty nine,
nineteen seventy Baltimore Orioles, Dave McNally, Jim Palmer, Mike quay
Are and uh Pat Dobson. All three of those guys
I think was in the sixty nine season. May it
was the seventy season. They each won twenty games. Twenty games.
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That was in the day when pitcher like pitch nineties
they didn't, they didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
And and that.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Pitching staff was so good, boy that Braves Glavin, Smolts
Avery and uh Maddox Smoltz Avery Glad, I say, Glaby, yeah,
And then of course there was who could forget Blackburn,
Slowy Baker and somebody else?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Perkins? Yeah, who can forget that? Who can forget that starting?
Yeah lineup?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So but yeah, I guess you could say that at
least certainly the way they're they've just pitched, that's his
I'll say this, that's as.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Good of postseason performance by pitching staff maybe in Major
League Baseball history. It's awfully good.
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I am PA and I call them the negatives. They're
out there tend to be the people that it's a
wet blanket. Nothing's good enough for Yeah, No matter what
the local teams do, when loser draw, it's never good enough.
And the negatives were out in full force this past
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Friday night when the Minnesota Golden Gophers hosted the twenty
fifth rank then twenty fifth right Nebraska Corner Huskers and
completely dominated the corner Huskers basically from start to finish,
held a team that had been averaging forty one points
a game, and as I'd mentioned, we're twenty fifth in
the country, held them to six points and completely dominated them.
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The rushing numbers were flip flopped what happened in the
Gophers victory over Purdue the week before. Against Purdue, Gophers
gave up something like two hundred and thirty eight yards
I don't remember the exact number, somewhere in that vicinity,
and they only rushed for I don't know, thirty or
forty yards. Opposite, they ran rough shot over Nebraska and
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held the corn Huskers to a double digit amount. And
I think it was again it was almost the exact
same numbers as foot flooded after the game.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
The golden goler faithful storm the field.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And there are those that would mock and ridicule those
that storm the field have some standards. It's only Nebraska,
twenty fifth ranked team that goes to show you where
this program is blah blah blah, blah blah blah. And
I never bought into that. See, I don't think people
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think it through. They're just so quick to rip right now.
If it's Alabama, yeah, you pick and choose your spots.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
To it's Ohio State. If it's Ohio State, you pick
and choose your spots. If you're.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What are some of the other legendary football schools, well,
you know, I'm Clemson, whatever the case may be, the
ones that have that have won national championship.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But you got to.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Remember here, here's what I think the people that criticize that,
most of those people work in the media or they're
involved in sports, means so much to them, they pay
such close attention to it that to them.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's silly to storm.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
The field after what's really not that big of a
deal to beat a twenty fifth right Nebraska club. But
these are college kids. Most of them were at the game,
had no idea. They were even at a Minnesota Golden
Golfer games. It didn't matter to them. They're just there
as part of the college experience. Tend to be the
campus experience. Hey we got a game tonight, We're playing Nebraska.
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Let's go watch and you win, and you all look
at each other and go, let's go storm the field.
They they don't have any idea anything about Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They don't know anything. They're just having fun.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And it almost seems like people are outraged by it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
How dare you storm the field?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It's because they're college because they're doing it just because
it's fun to do. They they don't, like I say,
they don't know if the game, you know, how how
important it was or unimportant it was, or anything of
that nature at all. It's just if the Viking crowds
storm the field after a game, like let's say they
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were able to beat you know, since like when they
beat Cincinnati forty eight ten, that would be embarrassing. They
don't storm fields in pro football, but that would be embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Don't wait that know better? But when you're a cut
do you agree with me there? That?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I just it's to me, it's it's the kids are
just having fun. It's something to do.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
On a Friday night after the game.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It doesn't matter who you beat, how you beat them,
when you beat them, it's just having fun.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
To me, I think it's it's more of a statement
on the.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
People that criticize the because you just don't understand that
they don't have a full grasp of what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
College kids as our college duds. They don't know. I
they're ever gonna get that chance. Again.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's the other thing too, you know, there's this It's
the same way as why do kids on Halloween. I
don't know if they do it anymore, toilet paper houses,
smash pumpkin soap windows. Why would you do it just
because it's something you do? And as you mentioned, Gopher
fans don't get to do it much and they probably
went that looks like fun, let's go stall on the field.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I don't have a problem with it. Well I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'm not convinced it's only students, right, I'm sure they
are the ones initiating it. Who do you think he
also do well? I just I just know in the
past I've seen you know, I think JG. Once I
think he might have done it as a court storming
for the basketball team. Once he's a grown adult, and
he stormed the court after a big Gopher basketball win,
an upset victory.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You're making that up pretty sure? He did justin gard Yeah. Who,
by the way, he went to Iowa, Well, he went
to like five schools. He he didn't storm the court.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Ultimately, Like, I'm not passionate either way on this. To
get angry about it. And I also I think you
bring up a good point of the people storming the
field have a different in all likelihood that have a
different perspective than I do. Right, we're not looking through
the same like I do. From my standpoint, I do go,
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you know, it's kind of embarrassing. The only time we
can ever storm the field is when we beat a
twenty fifth ranked team, right, and that it does say
something about where we are at as a school and
what our standards are and what our expectations are. But
I would also say, how many of those college kids
I'd like to think a decent percentage of or from
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the state of Minnesota that are going to the Merchantmanises.
But they're not all Minnesota kids. They don't all they
haven't all been beaten down with Minnesota sports like the
rest of us, right, that have been around for a
long time, so they have different perspectives than my perspective.
I would never get like angry about it. I'm not
passionate about it. I don't think I would do it
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because it's it's kind of I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
If I was If I was, if I was a
student at the U and had a couple thirteen fourteen,
I'd storm on the field and go with everybody else.
I might not initiate it or instigate it, but if
a couple of kids start going, I'm in why not.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I would compare it to a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And I think you and I are in agreeance on this,
Like the Hall of Fame should be for the elite
of the elite, right, and sometimes a lot of these
sports they're letting in guys that were good players, that
had good careers, but shouldn't be what I would call
hall of famers. I have the same standard for putting
a jersey up in the rafters. I think it should be,
you know, in a super elite player that you speak
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in hollowed, hushed tones about. And I guess that's where
I now lie on the storming of the courts, storming
in the field. To me, you should be beating a
top five team before you're doing it. Yeah, I guess
we have, but I'm not angry enough to get mad
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But way, we just to part ways because again, you're
not there, you're not part of the student body, you're
not nineteen years old.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
So really I acknowledge I have a different perspective that
I do.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, this one, this one right here says it best.
And of course I'm reading it because the verbally slapping
on me on the back esoteric comment. Right again, drink
some beers, go to the game with their friends, storm
the field, go party some more.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Fun, fun fund That's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
It's not like that the students were actually trying to
make a statement, say we're one of.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
The best teams in the country. Look at this. They
would just say, let's storm the field. It's cool. Same
with you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Back in the in the in the early to mid seventies,
streaking at football games is a big deal. I wouldn't
do it, but somebody wanted to do it. Get naked
and run across the football field at high school game. Okay,
so what Well?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There has to be some sort of standard set though, right,
or you can storm the field every game though every
game you win, storm the tea. If you want to
meet Eastern Illinois westleyand seventy two to zero, storm the thing.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
That's actually funny. See to me that that that that
would be to me, that's that's what I wouldn't do,
because that's where I'm looking for the humor someone who
says you're saying if what you're saying is true, ask yourself.
Ohio State fans to rush the field for being Nebraska
Maryland to the Golphers. Nope, that's the point. You're talking
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about two different schools. Jim, you don't understand what I'm saying.
That's Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
They do it.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They just won the national championship. Of course they wouldn't.
The Gophers haven't been to a Rose Bowl since nineteen
sixty seven. They haven't won a national championship since was
a late sixty They win won in nineteen sixty. Before that,
it was the thirties. It's just kids having fun. Jim's
taking sports too seriously. You're you're all taking sports more
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seriously than the kids at the game are.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
They're just there to be in the studio. Sext just
want to have fun all they want to do. So
what we get drunks, So what we smoke?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
We were just having fun.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
We don't care who sees.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
That's what it's all about part of the college experience.
If you don't get that, then you just you need
What you need to do is just worry.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
About yourself, and and and and just don't worry about students.
Wanted to have fun at a football.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Every once in a while after we have a good show,
it'd be nice to have like coworker storm storm the
studio over there after a winning show.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
We've never experienced. So that's the problem. Well, break, we'll
come back.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Talk Vikings quarterback situation from an outside angle. Listen next
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
Soon to be Big Game World Champion.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Minnesota Vikings are on the road in San Diego to
take on the Superchargers.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You'll hear that game on this radio.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Station tomorrow night, as you hear each and every Vikings game.
Coverage begins at five opening kickoff. Be here for the
boom that it's really not a boom anymore. That'll be
at seven point fifteen tennis out tomorrow from what I understand. Finally,
they're showing some respect to the about time the Master
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Control supervisor. Generally you've like, Okay, well you've got to
do the common man program, Go hit a bucket of balls,
come back and then and then run the board. Be
the master control supervisor and run the control board for
the game. Meanwhile, PA gets vocal maintenance days.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And all these other things.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And finally they're saying, why should tend to be have
to put in some marathon shift from twelve until midnight.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So welcome to the.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Spotlight, young man. It's about time they shows you the
respect that you so much they discoverage that. I'm very
happy for you.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, I can actually get some stuff done around the house.
I mean I still have to do like work though.
I mean I'm gonna have to uh call in at
one thirty for Spread Swing. I'm gonna put Spread Swing together.
I still got to set up the format for the
Vikings game tomorrow. So it's got like it's not all
like I'm just taking the show off. Got to schedule
of tea.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Time are you playing? You're not playing a golf tomorrow? No, sad?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Really maybe time fine? Time on if you hit the
driving rangers, go hit some balls. You could do in
a while Cody Benjamin Rights for CBS Sports, and we
have we refer to some of his some of his
pieces in the past, This one tend and be here's
the headline. Did the Vikings botch their quarterback situation? Reassessing
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Minnesota is now bumpy bet average on JJ McCarthy, comma
backup plans. Benjamin Rights and again I will pick through
this because it's a rather lengthy piece. It's usually tell
how many minutes it takes to read. This is a
seven minute reads, so I'm not going to read the
whole thing. But he takes a deep dive into the Vikings.
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So we're nearing the midway point of the twenty twenty
five season, and the Vikings may soon be on their
third starting quarterback of the year. Kevin O'Connell confirmed as
much of this week, admitting an undrafted rookie Max Brozeman
as an option in the event Carson Wentz can't stand
the field as JJ McCarthy's replacement.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Just like the Vikings drew it up right.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Of course, not a year ago, at this time, not
a single one of Minnesota's three signal callers was active
for the team. McCarthy was covering from a tormaniscus that
a racist entire rookie season. Wentz was on the k
C Chiefs bench as mahomes backup. Brozeman was throwing passes
for the golden goal first. Yet somehow these three also
represent the vikings current remaining hopes for a playoff push
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one year after Sam Darnold through thirty five tuddies and
route to fourteen wins in a flirtation with the NFC's
number one postseason seed.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Where did it all go wrong?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
And should the Vikings really be like I am bastard
for the fact that it did says the season is
out over, Yet they're three and three, hardly a death
knell wins his flash into the big play arm that
once made him a regular starter. McCarthy authored a strong
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prime time finish prior to the ankle spring.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Even broz Mur drew high marks for.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
His season composure, suggesting he'd be a William Warrior if
called upon. Yet the Vikings will be fortunate to keep
pace with the rest of the NFC North at this rate.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The Lions are still a.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Powerhouse, green Bay might be two, and the Bears have
won four straight games. In Bullet point four, it says, First,
the Vikings declined to enter a bidding war for Darnold,
who sunk under pressure in the final two games of
twenty twenty four, but captained an explosive offense for much
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of his first year in town.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
And he's now doing with as he is now doing
with the Seattle Seahawks. In some ways his mirror.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
This mirror of the club's polite refusal to pay big
bucks to Kirk Cousins the year prior.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Right they didn't want to pay Cousins, they didn't want
to pay Darnold.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
At the same time, the Vikings also declined the interbedding
war for Danny Jones, the ex New York Giants cast
off who finished the twenty twenty four season on.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Minnesota's practice squad.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Jones now looks like a major bargain for the Colts
after signing a modest deal, suggesting the Vikings only viewed
him as a.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
True plan B.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And as the offseason war on, the Vikings gave mixed
signals about interest in Aaron Rodgers, their longtime Packers' rival,
repeatedly championing McCarthy's potential while leaving the door open for
the veteran in the end, Rogers put pen to paper
with the Steelers, who were unafraid to court the former MVP.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Not a single one of these moves was entirely objectional
at the time. Then it talks about.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Was a legitimate gunslinger, but his end of the season
flame out was drastic. Jones would have been an even greater,
albeit cheaper gamble after struggling to stay healthy. No one
had piked him for such a sharp indie breakout. Ann Rogers,
though very accomplished, was forty one years old coming off
two bruised and sluggish seasons, with the Jets banking on
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him rediscovering high level form, would have also been going
all in on twenty twenty five, effectively red shirting McCarthy
for half of his initial rookie season.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But it goes on to talk about and said the
Bikings went there out.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
They took after a half a decade of solid, if
unspectacular work from Cousins, they said thanks, but no, thanks
to proven commodities, and decided to go with the young kid.
No one questioned the decision eternally, especially not McCarthy's teammates,
who kept pointing to the veterans' support at the skills spots,
the bolstered line featuring new starters and Kelly and Fries,
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the exotic defense, the proven culture building of O'Connell. McCarthy
himself called the Vikings stacked in an interview with CBS Sports,
said this entire plan hinged on McCarthy's play not being
so uneven and McCarthy's staying on.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
The playing field.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
The twenty two year old looked twenty two like an
unofficial rookie in his first two starts of the season,
struggling to find a sustainable rhythm through the air. Even
before he was revealed to have suffered an ankle injury,
McCarthy already seemed in danger of seating snaps to Wentz,
who arrived late as the top backup.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Early career hiccups are absolutely not a problem.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
If the Vikings are intent on playing this slowly, affording
their new point guard the patients he might very well require.
That's a fine approach to take, and it's one plenty
of rebuilding teams have exercise, declining to put the weight
of the NFL world on a first time starter shoulders.
It's just not the approach of Conlin Company seemed to
be taking by suggesting they could transition from proven arms
like Darnold and previous Kirk previously Kirk cousins, instilling up
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in the thick of the NFC post season conversation. Look,
some quarterback can turn around and help a franchise stay
afloat Flacco as their be planned to Burrow. But the
Bengals had Joe Burrow as their plan a, the Vikings
had McCarthy a total unknown. Did they grossly miscalculate the
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stability or lack thereof Sam Howell, the backup they are
acquired from the Commanders. Did they also need all summer
to determine they'd botch that bet? And why wait until
late April to make the gamble at all? Is it
because neither adopha Menzo or O'Connell could make up their
minds regarding the last second pursuit of Rogers, who didn't
actually sign with the Steelers until June. We don't know
how the rest of the year will play out, but
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all of a sudden, a one year Rogers deal doesn't
seem like it would have been such a bad idea
if the infrastructure was so rich. After all, imagine where
a rod might have Minnesota at this juncture, and imagine
how much rich sure McCarthy might be from watching and learning.
But no, the Vikings played a different hand. Why ruin
McCarthy's chance of claiming the franchise for himself and laying
the foundation for a long run as the guy just
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to hope an aging has been can go the distance
before retiring. It turns out the choice to let JJ
go unchallenged as the new number one just might ruin
any playoff chances.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Gambles are gambles.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Even if they make sense in the moment, they might
not pan out as precisely what Minnesota is feeling at
this moment.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
The Vikings are hoping at least for the sake of
what's left the twenty five, but perhaps also the prospects
beyond that. Someone also the prospects beyond that, someone, anyone
emerges to make it all right. And so it's what
you and I have talked about ten to be ever
since they let Sam Darnald go. Was that the right
decision to make? You had a guy everybody's searching for
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franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Everybody's looking for franchise quarterback. Sam Darnald was a franchise quarterback.
After last year he took a team to fourteen and three.
His numbers were spectacle there. I know, I get the
Lions game that was bad. Mayfield just had a terrible
game against Detroit. He Mayfield did exactly what what Donald
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did against the Rams against Detroit the other so how
many times he overthrew wide receivers, just over through wide receivers.
You know he Benjamin talks about in this piece about
about you know he he he brought up the reasons
why you wouldn't go in that direction, right, you know,
the the idea that now Donald was skittish. He cost
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a lot of money, he was kiddish in that game
against Detroit. Nobody knew for sure. I don't think anybody
could have predicted Danny Dimes was going to be this good, right,
I mean, he's.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Been, he he's he's he he looked he's looked this
year after how bad he played when he first started,
he was he was.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Like Donald, right, Darnold was awful in his first three years,
and then all of a sudden he looked brilliant. Danny
Dimes was pretty bad in his first couple three years
and he looked brilliant or to this point he has anyways,
for the most part. And then the Rogers thing, you
and I both said, yeah, part of it was selfish
as a media standpoint, doing a talk show five days
a week, and be fun to have a Rodger with
the ayahuasca stuff and the darkness retreat and the revenge factor.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I mean, imagine if he beats Green Bay this week,
you know he's gonna say that was nice to beat
in an organization.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I thought I didn't have any football left, just like
you said about the Jets, right, and that would have
been fun. And there's no guarantee that Rogers, you know,
at forty one years old, but he's played pretty good
for the Steelers. Now, I don't know if if he
put him on.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I don't know if he had this in him, so
that that was the kind of the question during the ass.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
The other one, and we don't know again, if he
was here, it's a different situation than Pittsburgh. You know,
I would think, at least on paper, look at the
Vikings were better team than Pittsburgh topped about him, but
I don't know. And then the Vikings suffered some some
to me an offensive, the offensive line issues. But but
I don't you know, the headline is is definitely one
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of those clickbait ones. Did the Vikings botch their quarterback situation?
Reassessing Minnesota's now bumping bet on JJ McCarthy and backup plans?
But it is worth exploring, and the questions are fair.
I think Tennaby, I you know, did. I think it's
too early to say they botched anything.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It does take.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Quarterbacks, you know, people will will as we've been debating
the quarterback situation about play McCarthy, your play wins, play McCarthy,
play wins?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Who do you play right? It's obvious. I don't think
it's just the injury.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I think the coach he's talked in the last two
weeks about trying to get and I'm these aren't the exact.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Quotes or or or or or the words or the phrases.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That O'Connell's been using, but it's about it's that old
getting the feet and the eyes align and getting that foundation.
And he said he thinks that McCarthy probably learned quite
a bit from watching Whence about the value of getting
rid of the football, you know, not hanging on to it.
It's like, well, okay, he should have saw that last
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year because Donald was pretty good at that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Now, Donald had his issues as well. He wasn't perfect.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
But I do wonder if they thought they would And again,
he did get hurt and he's only played two games.
Seven quarters were awful, one was really good. But did
they miss calculate Maybe not McCarthy might end up being
a franchise quarterback and being a great qv lead the
team to postseason, maybe heaven forbid, even win a big game, right,
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But maybe they.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The guy for Green Bays.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
After three years before he played, Aaron Rodgerson for three
years before he played.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Did they expect too much?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Did they think that we can we think highly enough
of McCarthy where he's at right now at twenty two
years old. That and then with what we can do
with them our system, you know, we can coach him
up and turn them into a Jade.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And Daniels right away. Maybe that's what they thought, and
maybe they miscalculated that.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, you know, at the very least, because of his age,
they probably should have had a better second option, and
obviously they inquired about many of those options.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
During this past offseason.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
But you know, we're always, if football is always, we
need answers immediately right like you need you got, You
have people texting you. We need to see what we
got with JJ McCarthy when there are so many examples,
as you've mentioned the two Packers guys, or even a
lot of the names you've already brought up. You brought
up Baker Mayfield, you brought up Sam Darnold, you brought
up Daniel Jones. These are all guys that failed in
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their first stints with their the with the teams that
drafted them, and it took him five six years in
the league before they started producing at the levels they
are now. And JJ McCarthy at the time we drafted
him was twenty one years old. He was the youngest
quarterback in that league. Bo Knicks was twenty four, Michael
Pennix Junior was twenty four. They had five six years
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of college football where they were more pro ready, and
we probably should have always taken a long term look
at JJ McCarthy, But that would also say, well, then
we should have had another quarterback there as either competition
or as a backup in case he isn't ready. Now
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we also don't know if he isn't ready because he's
played so sparingly. Right, Our optimism about JJ McCarthy going
into the season was off of one half of preseason
football we saw last year, and now all the negativity
on JJ McCarthy currently is off of eight quarters.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And I agree that for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'm not super encouraged about where the season is going
to go, which is why I said, hey, I would
place if Carson WENTZ get you the best chance and win.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Now you play him.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You can still go to J J McCarthy at a
later date, But yeah, they probably should have had a
better second backup option than you know, Sam Howell.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
A couple of text messages have come in on the brands,
Ryan Kfe.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
And text line this says, it all goes back to
the philosophy of building while staying competitive. They think they
can still win at a high level of developing a
young QB, so they loaded up with risky free agents
and threw JJ out there before he was ready and
hoped it would work. That kind of sums it up
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because if you remember Tennebee, that was that was the
phrase that that Quazy used, a competitive rebuild, a competitive rebuild.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
And you and I.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
We went, who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you
talking about? We thought, if you're going to rebuild, you've
got to tear it down to the studs. But I'll
tell you what competitive rebuild worked for this club. That
first year they went four even three with Cousins.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Then this was thirteen and four, three, and then and
then they had the seven and nine season.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Then they came back, they bring in Donald and they
go fourteen and three, and then I think I think
the text messager the listener sums it up quite well.
It's that competitive rebuilding. Maybe they and and this isn't
to say to give up. I still remember the text
message about a week ago said that, you know, the
way you interpreted what I was saying was to give
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up on JJ McCarthy because I thought I'd play once
a couple more weeks, just to see where it goes.
Because McCarthy looks so bad. No one's given up on McCarthy.
He's a talented kid. But you know, again, like you say,
he's young, twenty two, I'll go back to playing for Michigan.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I know we made a lot of big throws, but
that was a.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Run first team and a lot of times when you're
throwing when the other team is expecting a run, it
makes it a lot easier. But we'll see you got
a couple of other text messages to get to as well.
We'll take a break, we'll come back. It's been a
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Past common Man program I'm comedies tend to be quick
text message before we dive into five three four. This
one says Tenna is the equivalent of Rosmer. He's just
biting and waiting for a slot. Will he go somewhere
else or stay faithful to the covenant? Common is Wentce
beaten down day in and day out, but he shows up?
(01:00):
Is JJ Chad Abbott never round and only will be
when he's one hundred percent. That's a probably pretty fair
description of the three voice. I think that's probably a
fairly If it's a compliment, I think it actually is.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
No time now for five to three four? Time now four.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Five questions, Well, actually three, but five sounds like more
than four. Question number one, it's time now for.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
A full choice.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Common Where will the Timberwolves most likely finish the season?
A in the NBA Finals, B in the Western Conference Championship,
CE one and done in the playoffs or d they
won't make the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Is there a semi final appearance? And then bump because
that wasn't in that list.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, I mean because I think that's where you'd go. Well,
I think they'll make the playoffs. I you know, this
is the tough love couple here. I'm gonna you know,
there's always what is it called when you have a qualifier?
What's the word I'm looking for that kid? You know
that it's like if if I have to say, I
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think they can get to the NBA finals, But there's
big ifs, and that is I think I'm the only
one in this town that is still not completely falling
in love with Anthony Edwards. That he's just this wonderful
player and he can do no wrong, and oh, he's
the best player in the NBA, and we love him
so much, and he's AUNT and he's this and that
he lives rent free in my head. And we've we've
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we've had stories here in the last couple of weeks
leading up to the start of the season that the
members of the organization obviously feel the same way about
Aunt that I do, and but fans get blinded because
they don't want to think there's any negatives with any players,
especially the star players, and with Aunt there is that
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I don't know if it's an immaturity level, but not
wanting to play.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
They have to say to him.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They had a meeting and said, we need you to
play defense all the time, start to finish, because he
doesn't always want to play defense.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He doesn't want to do that. He doesn't want to
do this.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And so I is as immensely talented as he is,
and he is a top ten player in the league.
He didn't get enough sleep, he admitted, I you know
I don't get enough. Well, you got to take your
job seriously, dud, especially at this level. I don't need
to take my job seriously because I don't change lives.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I save lives.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But if you're in the NBA and getting paid that
ton of money, man, and you want to get to
the NBA, and he realizes now he needs I mean,
he says, well, they asked, what are you going to
do to stay interested? Well, maybe I'll just try to
have career highs in scoring. I would just try to
win a lot of basketball games. As good as he's been,
he's also been part of their issue, the reason they
can't advance and the reason they are the sixth seed.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Now, even though they were the sixth seed, they got
to the.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Western Conference finals last two years, the year before or
we were the third seed. I don't even remember now,
third or fourth. Last year we were the sixth. We
still got to the finals. So the seeding didn't we.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Were at the six detail like the last day. Remember
we were in that play in range exactly. And so
if he is able to do those things, play defense,
start to finish, if he's if he's able to to
not take too much. I mean, every guy's going to
take off a player too.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I guess it's just that is you know, you know,
it's it's it's it's it is a very.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I don't know. Grueling is the right. It takes a
lot of energy.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It takes a lot of efforts up and down the court,
back and forth, back and before you're playing offense and defense, right,
and so, but if he but if he can play
defense like they say he's capable of, if he can
develop that mid range jump shot, if he can, if
he cannot get frustrated when teams are double team him
and all the time and taking him out of the
game offensively, There's no reason why I don't think the
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team can't at least get back to the Western Conference Finals.
But I think it all depends on and we talked
yesterday with Rosen, so much of it I think depends
on Randal. Can Randall stay healthy and can he play
those last what twenty four to twenty five games whatever
it was, he was brilliant. If he can play like that,
this team should be really, really good. So I'll I'll
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say semifinals for sure, and I'll give him Western Conference
Finals until they get to the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I'm not picking them to get there. How about you?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Do you have a I agree with Patrick Roycie's call
him today in the start of viewing that I think
a lot of this depends on Dilly Dilly, just because
you lost Nah, right, and you lost a little bit
of your depth, and now you're depending on young guys
to replace that. I will say what I do like is,
for the most part, this team's now coming back for
a second year, right. Yeah, the team made a big
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jump in Rudy Gobert's second year with the team once
they got the Twin Towers figured out, and then they
traded Karl Anthony Towns the week before the season, and
it took them, you know, half a season, two thirds
of the season to find the chemistry. Now you're kind
of bringing that back for a second year. And I
do see a scenario which Ant gets better. But I
do think guys like Dillingham and Terrence Shannon Junior are
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going to determine a lot from a depth standpoint because
you're going to take down okay see in the playoffs,
You're gonna have to have depth.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think that's spot on.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Charlie's shin number two waiting for it's time for.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
The seventh inning stretch.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
The Los Angeles Dodgers four ace pitchers, Blake Snell, Yoshinobu,
I can't even say.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yoshinobu, Ya Momoto.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Tyler Glass Now, and Shoho Tani have combined for a
one point four oh e ra A and eighty one
strikeouts over their ten postseason starts.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Is that good? Common?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Is this the greatest starting rotation in Major League Baseball history?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No? I think that. I still think the greatest starting pitching.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Staff in Major League Baseball history, where the nineteen sixty nine,
nineteen seventy Baltimore Orioles, Dave McNally, Jim Palmer, Mike quay
Are and uh Pat Dobson. All three of those guys
I think was in the sixty nine season. May it
was the seventy season. They each won twenty games. Twenty games.
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That was in the day when pitcher like pitch nineties
they didn't, they didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
And and that.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Pitching staff was so good, boy that Braves Glavin, Smolts
Avery and uh Maddox Smoltz Avery Glad, I say, Glaby, yeah,
And then of course there was who could forget Blackburn,
Slowy Baker and somebody else?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Perkins? Yeah, who can forget that? Who can forget that starting?
Yeah lineup?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So but yeah, I guess you could say that at
least certainly the way they're they've just pitched, that's his
I'll say this, that's as.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Good of postseason performance by pitching staff maybe in Major
League Baseball history. It's awfully good.
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I am PA and I call them the negatives. They're
out there tend to be the people that it's a
wet blanket. Nothing's good enough for Yeah, No matter what
the local teams do, when loser draw, it's never good enough.
And the negatives were out in full force this past
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Friday night when the Minnesota Golden Gophers hosted the twenty
fifth rank then twenty fifth right Nebraska Corner Huskers and
completely dominated the corner Huskers basically from start to finish,
held a team that had been averaging forty one points
a game, and as I'd mentioned, we're twenty fifth in
the country, held them to six points and completely dominated them.
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The rushing numbers were flip flopped what happened in the
Gophers victory over Purdue the week before. Against Purdue, Gophers
gave up something like two hundred and thirty eight yards
I don't remember the exact number, somewhere in that vicinity,
and they only rushed for I don't know, thirty or
forty yards. Opposite, they ran rough shot over Nebraska and
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held the corn Huskers to a double digit amount. And
I think it was again it was almost the exact
same numbers as foot flooded after the game.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
The golden goler faithful storm the field.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And there are those that would mock and ridicule those
that storm the field have some standards. It's only Nebraska,
twenty fifth ranked team that goes to show you where
this program is blah blah blah, blah blah blah. And
I never bought into that. See, I don't think people
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think it through. They're just so quick to rip right now.
If it's Alabama, yeah, you pick and choose your spots.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
To it's Ohio State. If it's Ohio State, you pick
and choose your spots. If you're.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What are some of the other legendary football schools, well,
you know, I'm Clemson, whatever the case may be, the
ones that have that have won national championship.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But you got to.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Remember here, here's what I think the people that criticize that,
most of those people work in the media or they're
involved in sports, means so much to them, they pay
such close attention to it that to them.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's silly to storm.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
The field after what's really not that big of a
deal to beat a twenty fifth right Nebraska club. But
these are college kids. Most of them were at the game,
had no idea. They were even at a Minnesota Golden
Golfer games. It didn't matter to them. They're just there
as part of the college experience. Tend to be the
campus experience. Hey we got a game tonight, We're playing Nebraska.
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Let's go watch and you win, and you all look
at each other and go, let's go storm the field.
They they don't have any idea anything about Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They don't know anything. They're just having fun.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And it almost seems like people are outraged by it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
How dare you storm the field?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It's because they're college because they're doing it just because
it's fun to do. They they don't, like I say,
they don't know if the game, you know, how how
important it was or unimportant it was, or anything of
that nature at all. It's just if the Viking crowds
storm the field after a game, like let's say they
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were able to beat you know, since like when they
beat Cincinnati forty eight ten, that would be embarrassing. They
don't storm fields in pro football, but that would be embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Don't wait that know better? But when you're a cut
do you agree with me there? That?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I just it's to me, it's it's the kids are
just having fun. It's something to do.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
On a Friday night after the game.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It doesn't matter who you beat, how you beat them,
when you beat them, it's just having fun.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
To me, I think it's it's more of a statement
on the.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
People that criticize the because you just don't understand that
they don't have a full grasp of what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
College kids as our college duds. They don't know. I
they're ever gonna get that chance. Again.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's the other thing too, you know, there's this It's
the same way as why do kids on Halloween. I
don't know if they do it anymore, toilet paper houses,
smash pumpkin soap windows. Why would you do it just
because it's something you do? And as you mentioned, Gopher
fans don't get to do it much and they probably
went that looks like fun, let's go stall on the field.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I don't have a problem with it. Well I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'm not convinced it's only students, right, I'm sure they
are the ones initiating it. Who do you think he
also do well? I just I just know in the
past I've seen you know, I think JG. Once I
think he might have done it as a court storming
for the basketball team. Once he's a grown adult, and
he stormed the court after a big Gopher basketball win,
an upset victory.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You're making that up pretty sure? He did justin gard Yeah. Who,
by the way, he went to Iowa, Well, he went
to like five schools. He he didn't storm the court.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Ultimately, Like, I'm not passionate either way on this. To
get angry about it. And I also I think you
bring up a good point of the people storming the
field have a different in all likelihood that have a
different perspective than I do. Right, we're not looking through
the same like I do. From my standpoint, I do go,
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you know, it's kind of embarrassing. The only time we
can ever storm the field is when we beat a
twenty fifth ranked team, right, and that it does say
something about where we are at as a school and
what our standards are and what our expectations are. But
I would also say, how many of those college kids
I'd like to think a decent percentage of or from
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the state of Minnesota that are going to the Merchantmanises.
But they're not all Minnesota kids. They don't all they
haven't all been beaten down with Minnesota sports like the
rest of us, right, that have been around for a
long time, so they have different perspectives than my perspective.
I would never get like angry about it. I'm not
passionate about it. I don't think I would do it
(15:01):
because it's it's kind of I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
If I was If I was, if I was a
student at the U and had a couple thirteen fourteen,
I'd storm on the field and go with everybody else.
I might not initiate it or instigate it, but if
a couple of kids start going, I'm in why not.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I would compare it to a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And I think you and I are in agreeance on this,
Like the Hall of Fame should be for the elite
of the elite, right, and sometimes a lot of these
sports they're letting in guys that were good players, that
had good careers, but shouldn't be what I would call
hall of famers. I have the same standard for putting
a jersey up in the rafters. I think it should be,
you know, in a super elite player that you speak
(15:41):
in hollowed, hushed tones about. And I guess that's where
I now lie on the storming of the courts, storming
in the field. To me, you should be beating a
top five team before you're doing it. Yeah, I guess
we have, but I'm not angry enough to get mad
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But way, we just to part ways because again, you're
not there, you're not part of the student body, you're
not nineteen years old.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
So really I acknowledge I have a different perspective that
I do.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, this one, this one right here says it best.
And of course I'm reading it because the verbally slapping
on me on the back esoteric comment. Right again, drink
some beers, go to the game with their friends, storm
the field, go party some more.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Fun, fun fund That's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
It's not like that the students were actually trying to
make a statement, say we're one of.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
The best teams in the country. Look at this. They
would just say, let's storm the field. It's cool. Same
with you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Back in the in the in the early to mid seventies,
streaking at football games is a big deal. I wouldn't
do it, but somebody wanted to do it. Get naked
and run across the football field at high school game. Okay,
so what Well?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There has to be some sort of standard set though, right,
or you can storm the field every game though every
game you win, storm the tea. If you want to
meet Eastern Illinois westleyand seventy two to zero, storm the thing.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
That's actually funny. See to me that that that that
would be to me, that's that's what I wouldn't do,
because that's where I'm looking for the humor someone who
says you're saying if what you're saying is true, ask yourself.
Ohio State fans to rush the field for being Nebraska
Maryland to the Golphers. Nope, that's the point. You're talking
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about two different schools. Jim, you don't understand what I'm saying.
That's Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
They do it.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They just won the national championship. Of course they wouldn't.
The Gophers haven't been to a Rose Bowl since nineteen
sixty seven. They haven't won a national championship since was
a late sixty They win won in nineteen sixty. Before that,
it was the thirties. It's just kids having fun. Jim's
taking sports too seriously. You're you're all taking sports more
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seriously than the kids at the game are.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
They're just there to be in the studio. Sext just
want to have fun all they want to do. So
what we get drunks, So what we smoke?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
We were just having fun.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
We don't care who sees.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
That's what it's all about part of the college experience.
If you don't get that, then you just you need
What you need to do is just worry.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
About yourself, and and and and just don't worry about students.
Wanted to have fun at a football.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Every once in a while after we have a good show,
it'd be nice to have like coworker storm storm the
studio over there after a winning show.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
We've never experienced. So that's the problem. Well, break, we'll
come back.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Talk Vikings quarterback situation from an outside angle. Listen next
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
Soon to be Big Game World Champion.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Minnesota Vikings are on the road in San Diego to
take on the Superchargers.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You'll hear that game on this radio.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Station tomorrow night, as you hear each and every Vikings game.
Coverage begins at five opening kickoff. Be here for the
boom that it's really not a boom anymore. That'll be
at seven point fifteen tennis out tomorrow from what I understand. Finally,
they're showing some respect to the about time the Master
(19:23):
Control supervisor. Generally you've like, Okay, well you've got to
do the common man program, Go hit a bucket of balls,
come back and then and then run the board. Be
the master control supervisor and run the control board for
the game. Meanwhile, PA gets vocal maintenance days.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And all these other things.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And finally they're saying, why should tend to be have
to put in some marathon shift from twelve until midnight.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So welcome to the.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Spotlight, young man. It's about time they shows you the
respect that you so much they discoverage that. I'm very
happy for you.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, I can actually get some stuff done around the house.
I mean I still have to do like work though.
I mean I'm gonna have to uh call in at
one thirty for Spread Swing. I'm gonna put Spread Swing together.
I still got to set up the format for the
Vikings game tomorrow. So it's got like it's not all
like I'm just taking the show off. Got to schedule
of tea.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Time are you playing? You're not playing a golf tomorrow? No, sad?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Really maybe time fine? Time on if you hit the
driving rangers, go hit some balls. You could do in
a while Cody Benjamin Rights for CBS Sports, and we
have we refer to some of his some of his
pieces in the past, This one tend and be here's
the headline. Did the Vikings botch their quarterback situation? Reassessing
(20:44):
Minnesota is now bumpy bet average on JJ McCarthy, comma
backup plans. Benjamin Rights and again I will pick through
this because it's a rather lengthy piece. It's usually tell
how many minutes it takes to read. This is a
seven minute reads, so I'm not going to read the
whole thing. But he takes a deep dive into the Vikings.
(21:05):
So we're nearing the midway point of the twenty twenty
five season, and the Vikings may soon be on their
third starting quarterback of the year. Kevin O'Connell confirmed as
much of this week, admitting an undrafted rookie Max Brozeman
as an option in the event Carson Wentz can't stand
the field as JJ McCarthy's replacement.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Just like the Vikings drew it up right.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Of course, not a year ago, at this time, not
a single one of Minnesota's three signal callers was active
for the team. McCarthy was covering from a tormaniscus that
a racist entire rookie season. Wentz was on the k
C Chiefs bench as mahomes backup. Brozeman was throwing passes
for the golden goal first. Yet somehow these three also
represent the vikings current remaining hopes for a playoff push
(21:45):
one year after Sam Darnold through thirty five tuddies and
route to fourteen wins in a flirtation with the NFC's
number one postseason seed.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Where did it all go wrong?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
And should the Vikings really be like I am bastard
for the fact that it did says the season is
out over, Yet they're three and three, hardly a death
knell wins his flash into the big play arm that
once made him a regular starter. McCarthy authored a strong
(22:20):
prime time finish prior to the ankle spring.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Even broz Mur drew high marks for.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
His season composure, suggesting he'd be a William Warrior if
called upon. Yet the Vikings will be fortunate to keep
pace with the rest of the NFC North at this rate.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The Lions are still a.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Powerhouse, green Bay might be two, and the Bears have
won four straight games. In Bullet point four, it says, First,
the Vikings declined to enter a bidding war for Darnold,
who sunk under pressure in the final two games of
twenty twenty four, but captained an explosive offense for much
(22:56):
of his first year in town.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
And he's now doing with as he is now doing
with the Seattle Seahawks. In some ways his mirror.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
This mirror of the club's polite refusal to pay big
bucks to Kirk Cousins the year prior.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Right they didn't want to pay Cousins, they didn't want
to pay Darnold.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
At the same time, the Vikings also declined the interbedding
war for Danny Jones, the ex New York Giants cast
off who finished the twenty twenty four season on.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Minnesota's practice squad.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Jones now looks like a major bargain for the Colts
after signing a modest deal, suggesting the Vikings only viewed
him as a.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
True plan B.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And as the offseason war on, the Vikings gave mixed
signals about interest in Aaron Rodgers, their longtime Packers' rival,
repeatedly championing McCarthy's potential while leaving the door open for
the veteran in the end, Rogers put pen to paper
with the Steelers, who were unafraid to court the former MVP.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Not a single one of these moves was entirely objectional
at the time. Then it talks about.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Was a legitimate gunslinger, but his end of the season
flame out was drastic. Jones would have been an even greater,
albeit cheaper gamble after struggling to stay healthy. No one
had piked him for such a sharp indie breakout. Ann Rogers,
though very accomplished, was forty one years old coming off
two bruised and sluggish seasons, with the Jets banking on
(24:20):
him rediscovering high level form, would have also been going
all in on twenty twenty five, effectively red shirting McCarthy
for half of his initial rookie season.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But it goes on to talk about and said the
Bikings went there out.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
They took after a half a decade of solid, if
unspectacular work from Cousins, they said thanks, but no, thanks
to proven commodities, and decided to go with the young kid.
No one questioned the decision eternally, especially not McCarthy's teammates,
who kept pointing to the veterans' support at the skills spots,
the bolstered line featuring new starters and Kelly and Fries,
(24:58):
the exotic defense, the proven culture building of O'Connell. McCarthy
himself called the Vikings stacked in an interview with CBS Sports,
said this entire plan hinged on McCarthy's play not being
so uneven and McCarthy's staying on.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
The playing field.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
The twenty two year old looked twenty two like an
unofficial rookie in his first two starts of the season,
struggling to find a sustainable rhythm through the air. Even
before he was revealed to have suffered an ankle injury,
McCarthy already seemed in danger of seating snaps to Wentz,
who arrived late as the top backup.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Early career hiccups are absolutely not a problem.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
If the Vikings are intent on playing this slowly, affording
their new point guard the patients he might very well require.
That's a fine approach to take, and it's one plenty
of rebuilding teams have exercise, declining to put the weight
of the NFL world on a first time starter shoulders.
It's just not the approach of Conlin Company seemed to
be taking by suggesting they could transition from proven arms
like Darnold and previous Kirk previously Kirk cousins, instilling up
(26:03):
in the thick of the NFC post season conversation. Look,
some quarterback can turn around and help a franchise stay
afloat Flacco as their be planned to Burrow. But the
Bengals had Joe Burrow as their plan a, the Vikings
had McCarthy a total unknown. Did they grossly miscalculate the
(26:27):
stability or lack thereof Sam Howell, the backup they are
acquired from the Commanders. Did they also need all summer
to determine they'd botch that bet? And why wait until
late April to make the gamble at all? Is it
because neither adopha Menzo or O'Connell could make up their
minds regarding the last second pursuit of Rogers, who didn't
actually sign with the Steelers until June. We don't know
how the rest of the year will play out, but
(26:48):
all of a sudden, a one year Rogers deal doesn't
seem like it would have been such a bad idea
if the infrastructure was so rich. After all, imagine where
a rod might have Minnesota at this juncture, and imagine
how much rich sure McCarthy might be from watching and learning.
But no, the Vikings played a different hand. Why ruin
McCarthy's chance of claiming the franchise for himself and laying
the foundation for a long run as the guy just
(27:10):
to hope an aging has been can go the distance
before retiring. It turns out the choice to let JJ
go unchallenged as the new number one just might ruin
any playoff chances.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Gambles are gambles.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Even if they make sense in the moment, they might
not pan out as precisely what Minnesota is feeling at
this moment.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
The Vikings are hoping at least for the sake of
what's left the twenty five, but perhaps also the prospects
beyond that. Someone also the prospects beyond that, someone, anyone
emerges to make it all right. And so it's what
you and I have talked about ten to be ever
since they let Sam Darnald go. Was that the right
decision to make? You had a guy everybody's searching for
(27:49):
franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Everybody's looking for franchise quarterback. Sam Darnald was a franchise quarterback.
After last year he took a team to fourteen and three.
His numbers were spectacle there. I know, I get the
Lions game that was bad. Mayfield just had a terrible
game against Detroit. He Mayfield did exactly what what Donald
(28:14):
did against the Rams against Detroit the other so how
many times he overthrew wide receivers, just over through wide receivers.
You know he Benjamin talks about in this piece about
about you know he he he brought up the reasons
why you wouldn't go in that direction, right, you know,
the the idea that now Donald was skittish. He cost
(28:37):
a lot of money, he was kiddish in that game
against Detroit. Nobody knew for sure. I don't think anybody
could have predicted Danny Dimes was going to be this good, right,
I mean, he's.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Been, he he's he's he he looked he's looked this
year after how bad he played when he first started,
he was he was.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Like Donald, right, Darnold was awful in his first three years,
and then all of a sudden he looked brilliant. Danny
Dimes was pretty bad in his first couple three years
and he looked brilliant or to this point he has anyways,
for the most part. And then the Rogers thing, you
and I both said, yeah, part of it was selfish
as a media standpoint, doing a talk show five days
a week, and be fun to have a Rodger with
the ayahuasca stuff and the darkness retreat and the revenge factor.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I mean, imagine if he beats Green Bay this week,
you know he's gonna say that was nice to beat
in an organization.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I thought I didn't have any football left, just like
you said about the Jets, right, and that would have
been fun. And there's no guarantee that Rogers, you know,
at forty one years old, but he's played pretty good
for the Steelers. Now, I don't know if if he
put him on.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I don't know if he had this in him, so
that that was the kind of the question during the ass.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
The other one, and we don't know again, if he
was here, it's a different situation than Pittsburgh. You know,
I would think, at least on paper, look at the
Vikings were better team than Pittsburgh topped about him, but
I don't know. And then the Vikings suffered some some
to me an offensive, the offensive line issues. But but
I don't you know, the headline is is definitely one
(30:04):
of those clickbait ones. Did the Vikings botch their quarterback situation?
Reassessing Minnesota's now bumping bet on JJ McCarthy and backup plans?
But it is worth exploring, and the questions are fair.
I think Tennaby, I you know, did. I think it's
too early to say they botched anything.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It does take.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Quarterbacks, you know, people will will as we've been debating
the quarterback situation about play McCarthy, your play wins, play McCarthy,
play wins?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Who do you play right? It's obvious. I don't think
it's just the injury.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I think the coach he's talked in the last two
weeks about trying to get and I'm these aren't the exact.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Quotes or or or or or the words or the phrases.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That O'Connell's been using, but it's about it's that old
getting the feet and the eyes align and getting that foundation.
And he said he thinks that McCarthy probably learned quite
a bit from watching Whence about the value of getting
rid of the football, you know, not hanging on to it.
It's like, well, okay, he should have saw that last
(31:15):
year because Donald was pretty good at that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Now, Donald had his issues as well. He wasn't perfect.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
But I do wonder if they thought they would And again,
he did get hurt and he's only played two games.
Seven quarters were awful, one was really good. But did
they miss calculate Maybe not McCarthy might end up being
a franchise quarterback and being a great qv lead the
team to postseason, maybe heaven forbid, even win a big game, right,
(31:41):
But maybe they.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The guy for Green Bays.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
After three years before he played, Aaron Rodgerson for three
years before he played.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Did they expect too much?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Did they think that we can we think highly enough
of McCarthy where he's at right now at twenty two
years old. That and then with what we can do
with them our system, you know, we can coach him
up and turn them into a Jade.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And Daniels right away. Maybe that's what they thought, and
maybe they miscalculated that.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, you know, at the very least, because of his age,
they probably should have had a better second option, and
obviously they inquired about many of those options.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
During this past offseason.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
But you know, we're always, if football is always, we
need answers immediately right like you need you got, You
have people texting you. We need to see what we
got with JJ McCarthy when there are so many examples,
as you've mentioned the two Packers guys, or even a
lot of the names you've already brought up. You brought
up Baker Mayfield, you brought up Sam Darnold, you brought
up Daniel Jones. These are all guys that failed in
(32:48):
their first stints with their the with the teams that
drafted them, and it took him five six years in
the league before they started producing at the levels they
are now. And JJ McCarthy at the time we drafted
him was twenty one years old. He was the youngest
quarterback in that league. Bo Knicks was twenty four, Michael
Pennix Junior was twenty four. They had five six years
(33:10):
of college football where they were more pro ready, and
we probably should have always taken a long term look
at JJ McCarthy, But that would also say, well, then
we should have had another quarterback there as either competition
or as a backup in case he isn't ready. Now
(33:30):
we also don't know if he isn't ready because he's
played so sparingly. Right, Our optimism about JJ McCarthy going
into the season was off of one half of preseason
football we saw last year, and now all the negativity
on JJ McCarthy currently is off of eight quarters.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And I agree that for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'm not super encouraged about where the season is going
to go, which is why I said, hey, I would
place if Carson WENTZ get you the best chance and win.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Now you play him.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You can still go to J J McCarthy at a
later date, But yeah, they probably should have had a
better second backup option than you know, Sam Howell.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
A couple of text messages have come in on the brands,
Ryan Kfe.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
And text line this says, it all goes back to
the philosophy of building while staying competitive. They think they
can still win at a high level of developing a
young QB, so they loaded up with risky free agents
and threw JJ out there before he was ready and
hoped it would work. That kind of sums it up
(34:37):
because if you remember Tennebee, that was that was the
phrase that that Quazy used, a competitive rebuild, a competitive rebuild.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
And you and I.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
We went, who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you
talking about? We thought, if you're going to rebuild, you've
got to tear it down to the studs. But I'll
tell you what competitive rebuild worked for this club. That
first year they went four even three with Cousins.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Then this was thirteen and four, three, and then and
then they had the seven and nine season.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Then they came back, they bring in Donald and they
go fourteen and three, and then I think I think
the text messager the listener sums it up quite well.
It's that competitive rebuilding. Maybe they and and this isn't
to say to give up. I still remember the text
message about a week ago said that, you know, the
way you interpreted what I was saying was to give
(35:27):
up on JJ McCarthy because I thought I'd play once
a couple more weeks, just to see where it goes.
Because McCarthy looks so bad. No one's given up on McCarthy.
He's a talented kid. But you know, again, like you say,
he's young, twenty two, I'll go back to playing for Michigan.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I know we made a lot of big throws, but
that was a.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Run first team and a lot of times when you're
throwing when the other team is expecting a run, it
makes it a lot easier. But we'll see you got
a couple of other text messages to get to as well.
We'll take a break, we'll come back. It's been a
fast paced, action packed, controversial common Band program, but what's new.
But we'll continue the show after the other side of
the break. Here on the common Man Program on the
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