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October 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Common Man Hour 3 --Mark Rosen Joins --Twins Manager Options --Flag Football --Wacky Sports Ideas --Vikings/Browns --Would You Trade ANT?

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
A couple thirteen fourteen past. I'm common.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
He's tim to be Mark Crosan here as well.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
So the Twins fired Rockeball Delli a couple of days
agoing now everyone is weighing in on who did they
think they should hire. Lavelle Anial, the thirdest team columnist
Fish Rap Factory West Side, had five ideas, five names
he threw out there. Bobby Nightingale, who is a beat
writer for the Twins for the Fish Rep Factor in
the West Side, had a list of something that was

(00:50):
almost like eight nine to ten guys on there. I
recognize a number of the names, others I didn't, And
then I sometimes, I mean, I know it does matter,
but then again, does it really matter because they're probably
not going to raise the payroll. They got a lot
of young guys. It's uh, I don't know what are
your thoughts about.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
We've seen teams fire managers for all sorts of reasons,
even after winning seasons. I mean, Paul Mallador of you
guys talked about a little bit earlier Manager of the Year.
I think, you know, everyone recognized as the Hall of Famer,
and especially since Paul had such an intimate knowledge of
the Twins minor league system and the players that were there,
because he was down there, he kind of he kind

(01:27):
of grew up with the Byron Bucks and watched Byron
Buckston grow up and all these other guys. He knew
that the organization ins and outs, of the pros and cons.
And yet you know, they still wanted their guy, so
they brought in you know, Paul got you know, fired,
and brought in Rocco. That's the progative, the difference between
situations that we often see in Major League Baseball where

(01:48):
managers get fired. To go on, why did they fire
that guy? They had a really good record this year.
But whatever it might be, And this one is exactly
what you said. I throw those names in a hat
and they're probably all qualified her own way to be
a manager of a major major league baseball team. Some
of them have. Yeah, right, what difference does it make?
I mean, it's and that's it's a rhetorical question, but

(02:09):
it deserves a straight answer because you know, as we've
talked about, when that person goes into fall V and
Joe Pohlad's offices, when the day he gets hired and
they have that news conference over at a target field,
the questions will be there from all the baseball reporters.
What kind of promises did you get or what kind

(02:29):
of services did you get from management that you're going
to try to improve this baseball team? Or basically, should
you just be in Saint Paul managing their Double A team?
And because their roster doesn't really make a big dep
of the maybe three four guys, there's not a lot
of differences between what's going on in Saint Paul and
what the Twins are putting out there every day. So

(02:49):
you know, again, I know, I mean, who wouldn't want
to be a major league manager. Obviously you're gonna get
a nice boost and pay and be get a three
year contract. You know, you've got to have some sort
of uh idea that you're gonna be you know, at
least you got got some financial security, but then the
rest of it's kind of out of your hands. I mean,
you can manage all you want. You can try to

(03:11):
massage the bullpen. You can, you know, look at all
your analytics and do all that sort of stuff. But
we've seen that over and over again. I mean, Rockell
was Manager of the Year and didn't you know. I mean,
and I can be I mean, he had his faults,
there's no doubt about it. But I think overall, everyone
understands the landscape of what we're dealing with right now.
Over there target field, there's some Kathy Engelbert character the

(03:37):
u w n B A commissioner. Yeah, she's not long
to be the everybody's piling on. But I mean, are
they right? Yeah? I think, Well put it this way
in the.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
In the in in in the case of the links,
it sounds like it sounds like salur apples to.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Me, Well, there's a couple of different things to come,
and I think that the one, the one comment that
in the call your me. The other when she was
relaying the conversation she had with Inglburt, was was out
of ingel Bart whate her name is, when discussing you
know why Caitlyn Clark and angel Resa the other players
aren't making more money the first four years she goes
wealth wasn't for our platform, they would Caitlin Clark would

(04:16):
be making sixteen million a year. That's about as foolish
a statement as I've ever heard in sports. But Kitlyn
Clark was making that kind of money coming out of college.
I mean, she's obviously been able to capitalize on and
get even more endorsements. But you know, it's a legitimate
question from the visa. And I'm not even suggesting that
everything she is saying she and the visa is is
correct as far as you know where they're getting the money.

(04:37):
The TV money is getting better, but they need they're
getting any trying to get a new collective bargaining agreement,
et cetera, et cetera. But all the players are kind
of not just the players, think coaches and not just share.
All others are kind of going. You know, she's she
seems to be over her skis a little bit here
for lots of reasons, you know, and I'm you know,
you can circle back to what happened with the situation

(04:58):
of officiating and what happened to share. You know, there's
a lot of different ways to dissect that. They have
nothing to do with the commissioner. But I mean even
the optics last year. I know it's silly, but the
fact that she had a New York Liberty dress on
after the you know, wearing to the championship game between
the Liberty and the Links, it's just it's just bad.
Not it's just what are you doing? So, I don't know,

(05:19):
I think there's this you can tell the fista Kllier
has the respect of the entire league, the players in particular,
when she speaks, and she spoke for a long time
the other day. I think it had a rippling effect,
and I think it's probably going to potentially, among other reasons,
probably cost Kathy her jobs. Why just step down? Who
are the candidates for a placer?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I have no idea? What do you mean you don't
have any idea? I would have any idea. Who would
want that job? I'm sure they would. I'm sure they would.
I mean, it's you know, but I do think they're
having you know, they're gonna have uh going smack into
I mean, listen, it's just last year or two when

(06:00):
a lot of the teams were able to get charter flights.
They were flying commercial for a long time. There's a
lot of other things and and it's it's it's it
takes time. And I understand that they're not going to
get paid like NBA players, they don't generate that kind
of income. They have definitely because of the name recognition,
not just of Caitlyn. And unfortunately, you know, Caitlyn got

(06:21):
hurt a long time ago and is not part of
the finals. And that hurts, you know, because every time
she played, she filled the arenas and you know she
and if he says right, she filled the pocketbooks of
all the owners and all the other people that she
They certainly made a lot of money off of her.
So you know, they they're kind of the crossroads of
trying to, you know, figuring out the new direction that

(06:43):
they have to go with everything with the league officials included.
So because they do have, you know, it's going to
continue because I think more people are paying attention. You know,
there's more recognan Juju Watkins and I think she's sitting
out this year. You know, you're you're a name recognition. Honestly,
sometimes in women's college basketball is more than men. I'd

(07:04):
be hard pressed sometimes even go because nobody sticks around
past the year. Yeah, so when you look at the
rosters of the teams that are coming back and go, well,
what does you know, what do these teams have and
going well, I don't know where any of these people are.
They said, they're all pretty much won and done the
good ones, and we saw that again this year.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
This is a story dateline London where.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
The NFL is.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
In trench for a couple of weeks, says The National
Football League plans to launch women's and men's professional flag
football leagues in the next couple of years. Rob Goodell
said that earlier today the timeline outlined by Roger at
a sports conference in London would see the leagues created
ahead of the twenty twenty eight Los Angeles Olympics, which

(07:49):
will feature flag football for the first time.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Here's what Goodell said.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
We're committed to create a women's professional league and a
men's professional flag league. We've had a great deal of
interest in that and I expect that we'll be able
to do that. Then this is the league prioritize flag
football as the way to attrack young fans, both male
and female.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
But all said, the demand is there.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
We're seeing colleges in the States and universities international and
universities internationally also that want to make it part of
their program. If you set up that structure up where
there's youth leagues going into high school, into college and
then professional, I think you can develop a system of scale.
That's an important infrastructure that we need to create. I'm

(08:29):
sure there's a lot of we'll go ahead.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, I'm saying there's there. The fightings are heavily involved
in this. I'm going to say even yeah, the women's
in particular, but even you know, will NFL players be
eligible you talked about for twenty twenty eight Justin Jefferson
has said, Man, that sounds like fun. I'd like to
participate in that. So will teams allow their players even
though it's flag football, you're still in theory, taking your risk,

(08:53):
and they have to sign off on it. I'm sure
there's all sorts of ramifications, but I think you'll find
especially the specialists, you know, I mean, the wide receivers, guys,
you know, the quarterbacks. Yeah, let's try so, let's have
some fun. Let's go go win a gold medal. I
know it's a very very big international thing. They had,
I mean earlier this year the Israeli foot flag football
team was here. I I hosted an event at the

(09:13):
Vikings Museum to when the team was here, and uh uh.
It was pretty interesting because you know, they do compete
against other teams internationally, and so that what's happening with
flag football something to keep an eye on for both
men and women.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, I've got something controversial to say. Okay, yeah, it's
going to be controversial. I suppose I'm gonna be in
the minority and I'm going to be rank it. But
I'll bring it up on the other side of the
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Speaker 4 (10:38):
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Speaker 2 (10:44):
Flag football.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
You know, and I understand that there's there's interest in
people wanting to play flag football. Open some doors for
women to participate in football. Rather than in the tackle version.
And I guess there's men that want to play. My
question would be does anybody really want to? I mean,
I wouldn't watch a flag football game if they're playing

(11:07):
at my backyard. It's just we have so many sports
as it is. We've got n B A and w
n B A and NHL and then what is it w.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
A, what is the well? The Women professional?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
But what is that they do? P w HL?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
You have Major League Baseball, you have you have corn hole,
you have bowling, you have all soccer leagues. You have
so much It's like, do I really need to film
my I mean, they've tried to do a summer league
for f has that ever succeeded?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Has a summer like the USFL type of things? I
don't know if it's ever to the extent of being
mainstream or even they've had TV contracts too that that
have existed.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Answer me, honestly, yes, if there was a flag professional
flag football team, the Minnesota Vikings taking on the Motor
City Kiddies at Alion's Field on life, would you go?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
You wouldn't go to that? No?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
No, I would not, I wouldn't. I think they shouldn't
do it. I just don't under where the interest from
a spectator.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think you bring up a valid point. I don't
know what the pockets. You know, they've had plenty of
these games, and I assume they've drawn well in certain places,
even like I said, it's an international game now. But
I think from a participation standpoint, yeah, be a blast.
You're probably you're not going to get hurt, You're not
going to likely suffer a concussion. In the injury report
the following week we have you know, just Sta Yams, Yeah,

(12:31):
you could do that sneeze or But the idea that
I brought up justin Jefferson's name, because I think he
did express interest in it, you know kind of. I mean,
I don't know how serious he was about it, But
how will the teams react whether you're Justin Jefferson or
you know, you're any any of the wide receivers in
the game, you know, Jamar Chase or any these guys

(12:52):
are going to want to play and sometimes you know,
you see it with other sports. I mean, I you
know what, it's my one opportunity to maybe represent my
country and try to go win a gold medal, and
even the best of the best in pro sports. We've
seen that with other other sports and say, you know,
that's I'm not going to I'm not going to get
in a gold medal for the NFL, so I may
as well try to try to do it in something else,

(13:14):
and they probably have fun doing it. You see it
kind of in the I think of the Pro Bowl
type of games. You see it, right, and I think
that's kind of replaced it when they have that instead
of having an actual game. Now they were smart enough
to realize no one wants to watch that, although they
do the ratings are still pretty good for that.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
What I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Is is who is who comes up with the ideas
of what should be Olympic sports and what shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Got the reason I asked the question, Committees. The reason
I asked the question is because.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I do this every summer Olympics every four years. I
do the bit and I think people think I'm joking,
but I'm really not. I mean, would I rather watch
badminton rather watch the three legged race?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Where no, no, no, I know what you mean.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
So you have the three legged race where you have
two people running in a race, and you know you
put you put the ace athletic manager, and it's the
three legged races and stuff used to do when you
were a kid. The wheelbarrel race where you have somebody
on their hands and another guy runs behind him holding
his ankles as if it's a wheelbarrel race.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Pogo stick. Why aren't I get your point?

Speaker 4 (14:24):
But a sack race that I used that that that
I won the Blue ribbon.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I know I'm doing this partly tongue in cheap, but
why are to me?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I would rather or you remember chicken fights where I
would get up on your shoulders, I would get up
on meatsaw shoulders, and the two of you would go
at each other, and the first person to knock the
first team to knock the other team down would win.
I would much rather watch that than badminton. I mean
it's like they.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Are flag foot.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Every was a water down, a non contact version of football.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Who cares?

Speaker 4 (14:57):
So we see another great catch, another great run, another
right past.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I see that on Sundays all the time.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I'd rather see more non conventional those games we used.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
To red rover, red rover, set and Rosie right over,
I capture the flag. I would would rather watch those. No,
they won't it. But it's your point's well taken. They
you expanded. I mean I would have never imagined. Of course,
there wasn't anything years ago. Uh think about the idea

(15:29):
that someone said, you know, we're gonna one time during
the Winter Olympics, we're gonna have this thing called snowboarding. Yeah,
And even though it's kind of a it's a recreational
sport for many many people. I mean my son who
was about to turn forty when he first started skiing,
he was he's a good skier. I don't think even
snowboarding was available at that time. And now all of
a sudden, of course it's a huge Olympic sport and

(15:51):
the tricks and all the stuff they do, and they
have all the X Games and they had their own
basically they have their own competition. But I don't know
where you draw the line. I mean, there's the there's
all sorts of sports sometimes that get out there and
you go, WHOA, what is this? And then you get
ones that the professional professionals want to participate in as well.
So I don't know how to answer other of the
fact that I know internationally, flag football and for women

(16:15):
and girls in particular, is getting bigger all the time.
How that's going to translate to the Olympics from a
spectator standpoint, I couldn't begin to answer your question. I'm
going to do a couple of text message come in.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
This one says, with the world of screaming we live in,
it's a lot easier for these leagues to be accessible.
People will watch if they have the ability to find out,
which is easy to every.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Well that might be the case.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
But what I'm saying, who's interested in watching flag football?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I just think it's just well I don't.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
And again, maybe you like football so much you like
every version of it, it doesn't matter what it is you
But here's another one.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
This one says, hold on, where did it go? It
was here?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
They come in at breakneck speeds. This one says, I'd
rather watch an hour long show up running a jackhammer
on four ninety four. The fascinations with athletes is getting
to be too much. Regular people doing fascinating things every day.
You can hit it right at the gut on one
every time, and I can. But I see what he's
saying is that is that now they're they're inventing sports

(17:15):
and creating newsports there's this insatiable appetite for competition on
there is, but I for some of it is like
I'm serious, I would rather watch.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I would rather watch, you.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Know, I don't want to eliminate one hundred meter dash
for a one hundred yard dash whatever they call it the Olympics.
But I'd also like to see the one hundred meter
pogo sticks.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
We'll think about it.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
You run your pogost so you're bouncing up and down
like this, and all of a sudden, then there's the
gun and boom, and then you pogo sticks that you'd
have little you'd have collisions, people going off course. What's
to say that being able to bounce on a pogo
stick one hundred is more athletic than somebody just running
as fast as they can.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Were happy for them. Yeah, I think when we watch
these sort of out of the box events during the
Olympics that no one would ever watch if it was
not during the Olympics. I mean, I think of one
that comes to mind is steeplechase. I mean, and the
riders are tremendously gifted, and I'm sure, but it's still
it's like, I'm not quite sure I want to watch that,

(18:14):
but there's always events. And but at the same time,
if they're going to add flag football, are they going
to eliminate are they just adding it? Are they going
to eliminate another event or too, or are they going
you know, we've kind of run run its course, we're
gonna move on from that into flag football, into pogo sticks.
I don't know, but it is.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
You know, this is just some American idea to get
us another medal because we dominates flag football.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Let's be honest. I mean, you know, if you were
out of the room, did you hear the pogo wouldn't
you like to watch the hundred contact? I want to
watch that.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
You know. I mean think about you'd Avenue or the
eight lanes or whatever it is, and then all of
a sudden the gun go off. They'd all be bouncing
in place right then the gun goes off, they go
and there would be collisions because you go, you're stick
trying to stay in your lane.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
It would so many.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Times in a race, like the guy who's leading is
gonna win with pogo stick, he might fall, something happen.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
On the very end, you know, And I get it.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
You should start a professional pogo stick can.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I get it. The pogo stick does all the work.
I get that.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Still, it's I would be I'd much rather watch that
than fly football.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, but that's fine out.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You know what, I don't understand why people watch it
cycling watch like a tour to friend, like it's a
huge event and it's on television like this is That's
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Over and over a lot of the Olympic fens.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
You just I would rather watch those those Tour de
Francis on big wheels, try to control those going down
those steep hills in the Pyrenees.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
We'll break come back. One more segment to go.

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Mark Rosen Here Mark Rosen's last appearance of the week

(20:33):
in mine as well. I'm headed to Golf Toberfest up
in Grand View a hotel, Yes, Camp Richard. Hundreds hundreds,
hundreds of golfers will converge on the Brainerd Lakes here.
We're playing golf, hit, Knockdown, punch cut, Faye draws. We'll
have a concert and pig ros tailgate party, we call it.
I think we'll go outdoors again. You know last year

(20:53):
we're indoors. It's it's funny. Last year's Golf Toberfest. I
was wearing long underwear on Friday Saturdays. No on Friday. Well,
you know how it is in Minnesota. Friday Saturdays Sunday
it will be mid to upper eighties.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, it's also twot City Marathon weekend. Yeah, that's not
the ideal. Whether we've already was that just a couple
of years ago when they had to cancel it. I
don't hear anyone saying that this time. But it's still
not the ideal conditions for a marathon.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
So I will be in a brainer in a Cambridge
and we think the folks at Grandview for working with
us for all these years. We do appreciate that the
ten of Fitzgerald will set sail at twelve noon tomorrow.
There are currently eight vacancies in Major League Baseball for
the manager's chair.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
That could change by the time the playoffs. There are
eight right now. There are eight right now openings.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Associated Press has ranked them an order of.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Most attractive.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Which managerial rank?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I don't you know what jobs are open right now?
I thought baseball was your sport. Well, I'm watching the playoffs.
You have three elimination games today, but I don't. I
don't pay a whole lot of attention what manager.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
There are eight managerial openings, and probably all not real
good baseball teams, otherwise they wouldn't be they would be
playing right now. There are eight managerial openings, and of those,
they rank them in order of most attractive to least
the angels in there, Which one do you think is
the least attract the Twins.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
No, it's not really, it's the Colorado Rocket. Oh, that
makes sense, it says the Good.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Expectations should be low in Denver, coming lovely in the summer.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
The Bad.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
The Rockies didn't set the record for losses this year,
but make no mistake, they were one of the worst
teams ever, posting a run differential that was the worst
in modern history. They have only two top one hundred
prospects according to MLB Pipeline. Neither was reached Triple A yet,
despite plenty of fan support, and they do big teams nearby,
the Rockies have never really built a sustained winner.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Then it's your Angels club they are at number seven.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Angels, says the Good.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
It's a team that's been willing to spend in the
past that hasn't necessarily worked out. Trout witnessed the Anthony
Rendon contract, but it suggests under the right circumstances, money
won't be an obstacle. And as bad as things have
been recently, they did improve nine games this year.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
The Bad.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
No team has gone longer without a postseason birth than
the Angels, who were generally mediocre when they had Trout
and Otani and now have only Trout, who hasn't been
an MVP threat in a while. This franchise has been
a revolving door managers since Mike socials departure. And then
finally is the Twins at six, says the good, the
Al Central is a for giving spot. Nobody in the

(23:50):
division has won more than ninety three games since the
Twins themselves won one to one in twenty nineteen. Market
like Minnesota can compete with Detroit, Kansas City, and Cleveland,
and the Twins coming off a deadline selloff, there should
be a relatively low pressure situation. Initially, the bad, Like
the Nationals, Twins ownership flirted with a sale before deciding

(24:11):
against it. The team cut payroll after winning the division
in twenty twenty three, with their regional television revenue taking
a hit after the Diamond Sports Group bankruptcy, So that
pretty much sums it up. It's then Washington and five
Giants at four, Baltimore three Rangers at two, and they
say the Braves have is probably the most attractive.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Of all of them, and they've been in a drought
for a while.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
But again, as we did talk about it, Tennebe and
I did maybe you were part of this conversation. I
just wasn't listening and was waiting for my turn to talk.
But they'll there will be no shortage of people that
want the job. I mean, there's thirty of them in
sports and the you know. I mean, if you're a
guy that's got a really good reputation, you've had success,

(24:56):
you've been manageder a year before, whatever, and you're looking
for work, you might be able to pick and choose
a little bit. Even then, it's hard to because there's
eight openings, and I would suppose the names that are
that are that are most talked about. Our guys that
do have pretty good resumes, they'll probably get the first
offers more. You don't know, a lot of teams like
to start friend Listen, why don't we try somebody else's
they're just doing We see it happened in the NBA

(25:18):
all the time, and in the NHL and the NFL,
where the same guys get recycled over and over and
over again. Uh with the Twins, you know, we talked
about this earlier. Your guess is as good as mine is.
I don't know, would they do a Toby Garden higher,
would they do a guy that's currently on the club.
Would they go out and try to get one of
those high profile gus. I don't think the high profile

(25:40):
guy like you know, like those Bruce Bochie kind of
guys is.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Going to be it. But it's not gonna have no
idea who's who it's going to be. I don't think
anyone does. And again it's it's the expectations of that manager.
I mean, the manager whoever they name, is not gonna
have people rush into the box office. You know that
that's obviously not going to happen. And I think from listen,
of course, it's an attractive job because you're going to

(26:04):
get a nice pay check number one, and you get
an opportunity to elevate whatever you were hitting, coach, pitching,
coach assistant, whatever you were doing, analytics guy, and you
become a big league manager for the Minnesota Twins. That's
a nice promotion. But you know, it depends on you know,
you can say I'm just going to take the job
because I get to be a big league manager, or

(26:25):
do you have to sit down with Folving and go, look,
I really want to win. I know you guys have
this on paper. The second best farm system in baseball,
and I know you gots some really good young players,
but how are we going to develop them? How are
we going to compliment these players with veterans? As we
watched the playoffs continue today in all these elimination games,
and you look at again you mentioned the division. You

(26:45):
look at the Tigers and the Guardians, and in those
two teams, how are we going to be able to
get to the point where we can compete against those
two teams? We did it two years ago. I mean
we were right there, we won a series, and then
you guys decided to pull the rug out from under us.
Forget you know, the likes of the Red Sox or
the Yankees at the moment, but just competing in your
own division, and that certainly is a doable thing. They

(27:07):
just said that. It's not a they don't have an
LA Dodgers team in the American League Central. It's just
not there. So I mean, by making a few moves,
you can you can absolutely get yourself back in the conversation.
I just don't think anyone trust that the Twins are
going to do that this offseason.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
We did spread swing earlier one of your games, you
took you took the soon to be big game world
champion Minnesota Vikings over the Cleveland Browns. So I'm assuming
you believe they will win. Why do you think, you know,
we know the situation with both teams. The Browns are
starting a rookie quarterback, highly regarded rookie quarterback, but a
quarterback that's never played a single snap in a regular

(27:49):
season National Football League game. It's a team that is
They've got a really good defense. Offensively, they're very challenged
Vikings where all all the stories there, we have injuries
on the defense, and we have injuries on the offense.
McCarthy's not going to play, Wentz is going to play.
So you know, I I to me, it's it's it's
a difficult game.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
To handicap it. Well, why do you like the Vikings? Well,
I think I think the point I was trying to
make in a very quick fashion is that I think
the fact that Kaosi has had the entire week, uh
this week to kind of ramp up. There's nothing worse
than you have in game injuries, especially in an area
where you're thin to begin with. So yeah, you look
at the starting lineup for the offensive line and thankfully

(28:29):
Derisaws back again. He's been back, and you have Fries
O'Neill's out and the rest. You know, they're missing some
key people. There's no doubt Donovan Jackson's not ready to
come back till after the bye. But I think because
he's had these guys to work with all week and
they can they can now really scheme about this is

(28:49):
what we have to do, the quick rhythm passes, whatever
it might be. They got to get the ball to
obviously the Jefferson let him do his thing. But I
think they've had this extra week and and and to
prepare for a Cleveland team that they should be. I'm
not saying they're gonna put up thirty five points unless
you get some defensive touchdowns again by Isaiah Rodgers, but

(29:10):
I think they're good enough to rattle Gabriel and to
make life miserable form. I think the biggest thing is well.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
With the poor off with the Vikings offensive line decimated,
and the Browns are very good defensive.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well they are, but I you know they're not. It's
not like they're going up against you know, the Steel curtain.
I mean, they're they're good, but I don't think they're
you know they're not. But I think the big thing,
the biggest thing for the Vikings, and we've seen a
time of time, they have got to get off to
a good start. This team is so different like a
lot a lot of teams. Can you know, Vikings came back,
but you know they've got to you know, whether they

(29:44):
take the opening kickoff the you know, getting an early
lead is is paramount because if they can get a
lead of even like up to ten points, seven to
ten points and put that kind of pressure on a
rookie quarterback who's limited and what they can do offensively,
I think then can really unleash hell on on their offense.
But by all appearances, if they end up getting in

(30:06):
the mud with them, we're going to have cash. Well,
they they have been out, they've been out, But I
otherwise you're gonna get in the mud with that team
and they end up with a thirteen to ten game.
I think it's up to them to take the lead,
put some pressure on them, and then you force the
turnovers and then you have an opportunity to do some things.
But I think the difference truly is going to be

(30:27):
and people will be talking about the same thing when
JJ McCarthy comes back. I'm likely against the Eagles. What
chance you're gonna get the Vikings to win that game?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Well, I can see the Eagles defense, you know, looking
their chops going after a guy really hasn't played very
much this year coming off an injury. How can you
not favor the Super Bowl champions in that games as
much as they've been struggling and still being four and
oh so, I just think the Vikings are sitting They've
been sitting over in Europe. They were stewing about this.

(30:55):
I'd be very surprised they don't and understanding that just
how important this game is when you look at their
schedule and KOC is not going to go, well, we
got you know, we only got we got the Eagles,
we got the Raid, we got the the Chargers, that
we got the Lions. Uh oh, we better win this game. Well,
they know they have to win this game and that's
all that matters at the moment.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
You're getting ripped. Okay, please bring this up. Rosen just
said the Braves been in a drought for a while. Well,
they've been in the playoffs the last six years. Okay,
they won the World Series in twenty twenty one and
they won one hundred and four games two years ago.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
That's not much of a slump now, I guess it
is it. I was thinking of I forgot they won
the world they won the World Series.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Went well, they were in the World Series in twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I thought they wanted to. I think the I think
they may have wanted as well. Yeah, I know, I
just think of Atlanta's always falling short lately. That's all
my apologies.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Here's another Browns can run the ball with their rookie
running back. They will score seven to fourteen points. Vikings
Ovens needs to produce a couple of tuddies. Do you
think they can produce a couple of tuddies against this Browns?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
The Vikings office, Yes, yes, yes, yes, And that's what
I'm saying. I think it's why so it's it's paramount
for them to get an early lead, because then I think,
you know, you got to you got to put Dylan
in those Dylan, uh, you know, third and long situation.
I'm Dylan, Dylan third and long situations. You know, put
him in a position where he's going to be uncomfortable

(32:20):
and and the Vikings can tee off on him a
little bit. That's what that's what they do best, even
without Van Ginkel, and uh, you know that they have
they have enough personnel to overcome that. Every team's got
dealing with crap right now, you know, pretty much injury wise.
So Packers by.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
This week coming off of forty forty draw with the
Dallas Cowboys, after that performance defensively, they they couldn't stop Dallas.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Has your opinion changed? I'm not even sure what your
opinion a green May was.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
After the way green Bay started the season, they they
they pretty much dominated a Detroit team and again with
first game of the season, but they did. We've seen
what Detroit's done since then. Troy offense has been lights
out ever since then. They beat a Jane Daniels led
Washington Commander's team and then they picked up Uh they

(33:12):
who did they beat the game three?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Packers?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Didn't they win Game three and then lost the first one?
Or are they two and two?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Now? Yeah? Who do they?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Who?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
They beat Washington and they beat Detroit Detroit and then
who do they lost?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
They lost?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, they have the upset lost and then they give.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Up forty Here as I thought green Bay after the
first couple of weeks was certainly, you know, certainly they
look like a playoff team, if not better, Has your opinion.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Changed it all? I try not to get too submitted
to my opinions about any particular NFL team in the
first month of the season. I honestly, I always look
at it like when the baseball playoffs are over. That's
when you kind of you can start really kind of
forming all the opinions about the team you're following. I mean,
the Packers come out of the buy and they host
Cincinnati next week. It sounds, it looks right now, but

(34:03):
oh Joe Burrow playing for three months that the Bengals
are going to be fodder for pretty much any really
good football team. Green Bay's coming off of buye and
a disappointing tie. They're not going to lose it at
lambeau Field to the Cincinnati Bengals, and so you know
that that's they'll be bounced back and they'll get healthy.
You know, I'm looking at their schedule. Then they go

(34:23):
to Arizona the following week, which could be a little bit,
you know, more difficult, But yeah, I mean it's no
they can score. They got it, they got to. They
got a very good football team, and they're going to
be there, I think, right with the Lions and hopefully
the Vikings at the end. But that's ways away. No,
They're they're they're still awfully good. That was a really
different type of game. Dallas is a totally different team

(34:45):
at home, and we've seen that. And you know, they
were Dak Prescott was really good. And they're they're missing
Ceedee Lamb and they still put up forty on Green Bay.
So I'm sure it's a little concerning. But you know, again,
they're gonna get healthy. They got the bye week, they
come home and they play Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Did they provide the US to the league with a
template to how to score on green Back?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, you know, it's easier said than done. I mean,
you look at film all the time. They go, yeah,
we can exploit that, and then the game starts and
everything changes. It depends on how you know, the turnovers
field position. I mean, the Vikings Kaos has talked about it.
You gotta have, you gotta Jordan Mason has to be
the key guy for the Vikings. You can't put Carson Wentz,
I don't care what, especially against you know, Miles Garrett

(35:23):
and and that defense, you know, and second and nine
and third and eight. You know, you just can't do
that and expect to win the football game. They're gonna
that line will get buried. Then get the get the
running game going, put up some points early and put
the pressure on on the young quarterback from Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Would you trade Anthony Edwards for Victor?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
What? No? No? I mean Victor's phenomenal. But I think
Anthony Everards is I really do. I mean he's I mean,
I'm not I'm not downgrading, but women ya can do.
But I think that Anthony Edwards has got m v
P written all over him too. I think that I
don't disagree with the rosie. Yeah, you got your mouth down.

(36:09):
It's a discussion point. But I mean Anthony.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Edwards position in the modern ye more important. Those guys
take over games more than I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah. Would you trade Anthony Edwards? I wouldn't trade it
for anybody pretty much. I don't know unless you're gonna
come pretty Would you trade him for Joker? Well? How
old Joker? Would you trade him for Joker? For this year?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
What about the guy?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well? I take Joker? Yeah, what about the guy?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
See yeah, s G a you trade him for SGA.
I mean, yeah, you can make that argument.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Of course, you said nobody ya.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I know, I know I was exaggerating a little bit,
but I'm just saying that in the next six seven
years and we just no, I mean I take over,
don I would? I think?

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Have you been following the story? Apparently he's built like
Kenny Norton, but.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
He waits to say no. No, they said that you've
seen Anthony Edwards this year, seen what his physique looks like.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I mean, but he's always had of his No, but
he's been a little little soft.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
No, yeah, he has soft twenty three I mean in
his body type. Okay, No, I I just think ant
wants it so badly. Well, don't you think so? The
other guys do first they do. But you ask me
what I trade Anthony Edwards for women? Yet? No, because
I think tennis. I think he's in a more dominant
position to Yama might go down as one of the
greatest big men that he might be play the game.

(37:33):
He might see it easy, but he hasn't done anything.
He hasn't done it yet. Now he may he's got
a whirld of potential and hasn't done it yet, Well,
he's gotten the Western Conference Finals twice, so I mean,
and I think he's and he's twenty twenty three, twenty
four years old. Okay, No, I hate when I agree
with Rosie. I'd rather get him going. He can do that.

(37:58):
I've been watching something on the tube that got your
interest or what sparked that conversation. They were just.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Doing they're doing all sorts of they were doing trades,
but they were just going through all the best players
in the league.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And I saw some of the names that I.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Saw Wemby, and sure, the things that Wemby's done, no
player in history has had, like two hundred block shots.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, he's an amazing.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Talent block shots, and no, I don't know the number
of three pointers made in block shots. No one's matched
that number in the history of the national basketball. That
means he can play inside outside uptown downtown.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
He changes the way in and Ant does too.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
But I just look at a guy that I think
has the potential to win multiple m vps down the
road here, that's all He's going to be competing and
gets the likes of you know, SGA and others and Wemby.
But I just think he's a special special talent. All right, Yeah,
we'll see how it. I don't think that trade wasn't
gonna happen anyways.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
You trade Anthony Edwards if you guaranteed an NBA championship.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yes, I would trade any player if I was garant
if I was guaranteed an NBA championship. One.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Well, but Labell, I don't know if I would. I
think you're gonna have multiple kicks off the cannon. Well
that's what I'm well, yeah, one, yeah, you're right. Well,
let's hope.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
So you know they're gonna they're running the back where
we have plenty of time to discuss this. Okay, gorg No,
I mean okay, uh Leabell?

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Because Labell said that he would not if I could
have guaranteed him. Yeah, I know said that, would he
trade Royce Lewis I was not aging? Well yeah, Tennebee
says he would not trade Anthony Edwards if he could
be guaranteed one world championship, a franchise that's never had one.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
And uh, finally, I know we're going to sign off
for me. And while the golfers are trying to win
their first game at Ohio State since the year two thousand,
was talking to that's not going to happen, talking to
Grim about that. Ron Johnson. I got Ron Johnson was
on that team and had a big day in Columbus.
I think they're twenty one twenty two point hundred nuts. No,
I just hope Drake Lindsay stays upright.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
And then your guy Jim Marshall passed that first step
in the UH in the Senior I did not hear that. Yeah,
both him and Chuck formand it. Oh, because you have
not rested. I haven't what you said.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
You said you.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Would not rest until Jim Marshall got into the Hall
of Fame. What have you done lately for him to
get him into the Hall?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You need to go.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
You need to start a letter writing campaign. Talk about
it on your podcast. I lost at Jim in the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I trust me. I've talked about it with everybody I
know that's involved in any of that stuff. Very good.
We'll see you next week. Yes, I have a great
weekend at the Grandview.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Right, I'll be at Grand View for Golftoberfest. Tenneby, thanks
for having me, Tannab, thank you you too.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Tanneby.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Will be uh Uh, he'll be He'll be captaining the
ten of Fitzgerald from noon until three. They're going to
play program password. He's got plenty of guests, be a
lot of fun. I'll be back with you on Monday
at twelve noon, but stick around Big Ticket JG their
next right here in the fan.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I got.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Good night and good night missus Calabash. Where have you? Listen?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
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