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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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I got to learn more about Saint Paul crime.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
This fast, fascinating stuff. Well, have you done the caves
and all that stuff?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I haven't. No, I'm afraid of stuff like that, but
I might try it just.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Because it's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Listen to this man, listen to this. That for Dan,
the guy we were just talking out, Irish American organized
crime figure who was innocent, by the way, in my opinion,
political fixer and boss of Saint Paul Minisot's Irish mob
both before and during Prohibition. Following Hogan's nineteen twenty eight murder,
his former position as leader of organized crime in Saint
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Paul was taken over by Lithuanian Jewish gangster and former
Hogan associate Harry Sawyer and his ally corrupt police chief,
Big Tom Brown. They did not share Hogan's distaste for
unnecessary violence. The collusion with both the Dillinger and Barker
Carpers kangs resulted in some of the most infamous crimes
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of the Depression era and the rise and in the
rise of the Federal Bureau of Investigation under J. Edgar Hoover.
All of that in Saint Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Wow, who know? I did? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I know?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
The other fascinating thing that I looked up during the
break is that dapper Dan actually dressed like a slob.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
The opposite? Yah, A man after my own heart.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Sweatpants with shorts over the top, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Speaking of the history of the Twin Cities, Benjamin, you've
asked me over the years that, like, have I learned
a bunch of stuff while I do initials clues right, Well,
I basically have to do book reports. And my answer
is always I don't know how much of it I
actually retain. Right, It's probably in the back of my
brain somewhere, but it's just it's the cost of doing business.
Do you feel in how many years have been in
to In Cities live now three and a half do
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you feel like in the three and a half years
you've been there, you've learned so much about the Twin
Cities in Minnesota that you would have never known existed
because you didn't have to.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
See stories or learned you know what I'm saying, like
super connected? Well, if ill these little hidden gems that
the rest of us don't know about.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So yes, I don't retain it.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I just know that, Okay, I know there's a website
that I can refer to if I need to, and
the right people that I can remail to say, hey,
it wasn't there was like this great little restaurant Manticello.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
What was that again?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
What was the name of that, but you just even
referenced the caves, Like have you learned about the caves
through Cities live?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
No, I remember stuff like, you know, calling the herbs
that you put in a soup the aromatics.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'll remember things.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Like that, Wow, filmore next week. I've never I've never
used that term ever. You know, I'm getting tclified. It's
like they like to say that inside the office about me.
That's so there are different aspects like that, And even
I'll say things at home and my kids will be like, what,
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Like that's not how you talk?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
So, yeah, are we not having aromatics?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
What's the deal here? Wait?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You get home today and you're like, yeah, I can'ts move.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Are outside?
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Your kids are too.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
But that could have been like a Twin Cities boogie man,
like you better go to better Dapper day and.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I'll get you slit your throat or at least Big
Tom Brown. Yeah, when I walked around with a cane
and spin it around, Dan.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Do you think Big Tom Brown was big? He was
like my size and it looked like fra We'll find
out more because now I'm obsessed s being of obsessed.
My top story of the day is the power ball.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's up there again? No one won the jackpopet. No,
I know we were all hoping you were going to
be here today.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That makes all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The estimated jackpop for Saturday's young wud be about an
eight hundred twenty million nice cash option around three hundred
and eighty three.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Some players did luck out, however, with a with two
million dollar tickets sold, one in Kentucky and one in.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Mississippi, Florida.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
All right, Oh that's not where I bought mine. I
bought mine at the holiday and champlains. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah. Tickets are two bucks each. Odds of hitting the
jackpot roughly one in two hundred ninety two million.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
You know what I think about way too often? This
is such a waste of time. No, it's not that is.
Let's say I want a bill or a billion dollars
in the power ball, right then the taxes come out
and you walk with let's say a half half a bill.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I I'm so dumb.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I'm basically like, how quickly could I become a billionaire?
How fast could I invest and take four or five
hundred million and make it a billion?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Five years? Ten years?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Like ten years, maybe ten depends because you're not going
to invest.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
All five hundred million, right, you got to keep some
of it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You got to have some of it liquid. You're just
a little check to check so you can get a billion.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Just so I can be a billionaire as fast as possible.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I would just wonder because that would be fun to
win and then eventually be a billionaire.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You could probably get it pretty exactly. Would you want
to be a billionaire on paper or like legit have
a billion dollars in.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Cash, little a column, a little economy, Yeah, both.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
In sports teams or something like that. Like on paper,
you're asset wise, you've got a billion.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Look, I'm going to need to move some money, so
I want it to be as liquid as possible. Yeah,
I got to be able to put it on a
roulette table on a whim, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yeah, what you're feeling whatever the opposite of dove is.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Okay, I'm just gonna have to sit down with the
calculator and so how many years I think I have
left to see how much money I can spend year.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I'm not invested in the damn thing.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, that's true. Just keep it all for yourself. Why
risk it? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
All right?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Can I share a story from last night, kind of
the main story that I've got for you guys today?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Oh my lord, yes, you know. So we we have
I think collectively in this room.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
We all like we meet people out in public, and
it's like most time ninety nine percent like great interactions. Right,
sometimes the conversation gets a little awkward because of I
hate you. Well, this particular case, I don't think the
guy hated me, but he says.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Very interesting conversation.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
So all all, I won't say where I was at
last night, but I'm out.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I'm out and about with my family and and.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
This this guy's like, hey, oh hey, like you're you're
the guy from h from Twin Citay's life.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I'm like, yeah, hi.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And she's talking to this guy next to him, and
he's wearing a Green Bay Packers stocking cap and and
so she makes a crack about him being a Packers
fan talking to me or whatever, and he's like, oh,
you know, we kind of go back and forth. He's like, yeah,
I really I really appreciate what you do on the radio,
and all I'm like, yeah, I appreciate that, thank you.
And He's like, you know, I do remember you playing
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for the Vikings. I go, oh yeah. I was like, well,
it's kind of a long time ago. He's like, yeah,
I mean you weren't the best. O good, but but
you know, I really you tried really hard. Oh cool,
I really appreciate your effort out there.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That's literally what he said.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
I appreciated your effort. He goes, I really appreciate your
effort out there.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Thank you, That's what I said. I'm like, well, thank you,
thank you. I guess you know you should have said
you never played ball. Yeah, I should say you wouldn't
I played ball? You didn't. That's kind of awkward.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
So I.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Said that. I was like, should have pushed him over?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
My response was like, well that that was my intentions
to go out there and play with a lot of
effort there. Bud so oh man, wow, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
You know, you kind of heed. It was like, you
don't have to say anything.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You don't have to say an don't say anything like
I'm not looking for compliments.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
You weren't the best.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I'm actually walking to the cashier to go pay to
get out of here with my family.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You don't have to say anything.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Was this a big dude, little dude in between?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
No, he was, he's young, he's normal looking guy. I
mean you should he had a packer head.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Did you drunk at any point?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Threatened to take your snowmobiles?
Speaker 8 (08:51):
Sir?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't want you to incriminate yourself, but just not.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
If he's dead, you know, he'll just I'll just say
that he shouldn't start his car.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
No, big Ben, Ben.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Is there anything that could make you happier this morning?
Anything could lift your spirits a little bit? Sure about sugar?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
What about people wishing you a happy birthday or something? Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
This is interesting?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Do you want to bring it in?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I mean there's like thousand people in the studio.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I mean that really bright day last night was hey, man,
but at least you try, try so much.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
You got to the NFL and you try.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Not only did I try, but my efforts were noticed.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And then you do not look like you're turning sixty today.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I just look at you.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Look great.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
That looks like a dapper ben. When it comes, it
comes in a cardboard box.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
To protect Boom, don't bite the head off, boom.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
No, don't start the car. Boom. Yeah, don't push on
the gas. Boom. That is boom.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Somebody put a watch right now into this, just like Ben.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Try in the NFL Big Reveal. Thanks Justin.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Oh geez, look at that giant Vikings helmet.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Cake. That is amazing, Jill, you're the best. Look at that.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
That's gonna make Twin Cities live. That'll be in the
opening segment today.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I almost guarantee you look at this, or at least
on his actual birthday.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Look at that.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Man, Oh, that's so nice, always so nice, always so thoughtful.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's awesome. Turn it around and the cake. There we go.
Maybe move that micro out of the way. Here, there
we go. It looks like a real screw. That is awesome.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I don't know how do they do that? Man, great,
I don't know how they do that. It really don't
they get all the details, you know what? And I
think they even got my attached to ear lobes. That's
really good.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
You really did?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I do have attached to your libs? Yeah? Well look
at the scruff too, you know. Oh my gosh, even
got a little bit the five. Look at you riding
that helmet.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Calm down, okay, hey, cake cake, Ben looks a little
bit like Charlie Brown, a little bit.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
You if it was Zac's birthday, those legs would be
spread a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
At the ball in the hot spot. Look at that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah yeah, man, if you're not looking at kPa dot
com slash watching it.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
That is amazing masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It makes that cake again?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Is it battered spoon again or who'd you go to
this time? Battered spoon again?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Battered spoon? Thank you so much. You guys are amazing,
and you guys gave me a flathead. But that's okay man.
You know, Charlie Brown, Ben, that's awesome. Look at you
oft to wear one of those helmets like the kids
have to wear the shape my head.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh got it? Yeah you meant the guardian caps. But
you mean that when they're young posture. I gotta really
really good posture, you really do.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Oh they got you even got the cleats, you know
what they like put little cleat.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know what that that player on top of that
helmet looks like a guy who tries hard.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That guy effort.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Man, you know, I'm on the seat report try hard,
white guy.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Less for a cracker.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
It's one of those safe crackers.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, it's not the best cake, not the best, not
the best cake, but they tried see the effort.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Wow, that's really cool, man, imagine that. That's really cool.
I watched some of that holiday edition of Is It Cake?
Or whatever? They d Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, man.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I don't know how they do it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
That shows addicting, that just show on paper that I
would hate, but my family liked it. Once in a while,
I'll get I'll get caught in the is it Cake vortex? Yeah,
and I've watched like six episodes in.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
A row, and I'm like, what am I doing? I
don't know if any of these are cakes.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
I've just raised my whole afternoon. God dang it. But
he's such a likable guy.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I love Mikey Day.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
If I go, can you stay one more segment? And
hardly college football?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
All?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
This would be really hard this cake to actually put
a knife into, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
The thing? It's like, is it perfect?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Obviously I'm going to take it home, but I don't
even really want to cut it again.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I mean, it's it's a perfect cake.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Oh can I ask the awkward question?
Speaker 9 (13:31):
Then?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
What Zach?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
You want?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
An hour with it?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I only need like thirty seconds more.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Of the power to your morning show after this on
the Fan.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And Welcome back ladies.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
John Patrick Moore shows. We celebrate the birth of then
Jesus Laber.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He's an effort guy. He is vj L.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
That's what we call him.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Your actual birthday is what Sunday?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, Sunday Sunday.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, forty forty seven, forty seven?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Wow, dude, it just gets better from here.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, right, I wish that were the case.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Oh, you know what, in some ways it is. In
some ways it is than the alternative.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Since you are about to turn forty seven, do you
have the.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
iHeartRadio appycause I was wondering if you found out what
your average listening age is?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
My average listening age on another app told me.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
That you mean on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, well, uh correct, Yeah, told you lose what truth
be told?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I've never anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Anyway, twenty seven or twenty six?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I think you younger?
Speaker 9 (14:57):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Because do your kids listen to your account?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Your music is just that young?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Okay, you're hanging out with babes.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
What were some of your top artists of twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Morgan Wallen plus Malone.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Yeah, all right, you're skewing younger.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Are twenty one pilots?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, we're going yeah now, Calvin Harris, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
the former Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And then at the very bottom was like kind of
like old school hip hop stuff.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Okay it was Yeah, so you skew late twenties.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Good for you, like sixty seven and something like that. Yeah, yeah,
well done.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You know, we always hear this kind of thing, but
one of the things about being an athlete is that
when you get injured, suddenly no one cares about you.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
Oh, it's for sure about you. You have you have
a written off. Yeah, you're radioactive exactly. And I had
that yesterday. I was like, and I feel bad, I'm
saying if he was listening, my apologies. When I heard
this about ty Chamber being reactivated, I was like, oh, who's.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
Yeah, I decided today to open up Ty Chandler's window.
He's been doing a really good jo working his way back,
and with you know, timing is good with Corey Kiner
getting poached by the Cardinals off of our practice squad,
so having Tie out there will be uh, we'll be
really good to have him back.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I forgot about him. Do you remember when he got hurt. No,
first game of the season, I believe on the opening kickoff. Oh,
I think the first game of the season.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, well here's another right, I forgot we have Rondell Moore.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, yeah, he got hurt in that preseason right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
True too?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Would he be eligible to be I think.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
He's I think he's right right, Yeah, yeah, I think
he's You know, he might not be back until the
next season, hopefully for us or anybody else.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Ty Chandler, number thirty two in Your Hearts, injured his
knee during Week one game of twenty twenty five versus Chicago.
Played through the remainder of the game despite the injury,
and even return to kickoff to help seal the win.
On September eleventh of twenty twenty five, the Vikings place
Chandler on injured reserve because of that injured knee, and
he's been reacting.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, we'll welcome back.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, we shoulder, you know, I mean, we need
we need healthy body. Absolutely that Van, It's probably time
for a little bit of sports, would you guys agree
with that?
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
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Speaker 5 (17:29):
Please stop please agreed uh flashing anything you want to
discuss Gopher related before you get out of.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Here, and let's talk college football.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
Well, we'll talk more Gophers next week in terms of
what they're doing with their roster. But this is a
big weekend, so you could you could think about all
of the college football playoff seating is going to be
figured out the next five days and next This coming
weekend's a big weekend. This is the conference championship weekends.
There's nine games in college football. We'll talk about our
heart bet here before we leave, but most of the
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meetings kind of set. There's probably about eight teams that
are guaranteed locks. Like think of like a team like
Ole Miss and Oklahoma. They're sitting there between like six
and eight in the college football playoff rankings. They didn't
make their conference championships, so regardless of what happens, they're in.
But the games that could create total chaos and there
will possibly be total chaos are a couple of them.
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So the first thing is Duke, which is seven and
five but finished six and two in their conference, is
in the conference championship as a seven and five team
versus Virginia, and Duke gets in because five teams in
that conference tied at six and two, and the tiebreaker
is who has the best winning percentages of the teams
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that they beat. Right, and last week there was two
big upsets. Miami beat Pittsburgh, so Pittsburgh went from one
loss to two losses. And then then Cal on a
last second fifty two yard field goal beat SMU which
had one loss, and they go to two. So no
one even thought that Duke would be in. Well, now, Duke,
the smartest kids in college football have a chance to
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beat Virginia, which they did lose to a couple weeks
ago thirty four to seventeen. But if the smart kids,
which I never bet against the smart kids, if the
smart kids pull off the upset, Virginia is out as
a college football playoff because the conference champion would get in,
or the five highest rated conference champions get in.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Well, Dude, duke'signed on the radar. So Duke wins that.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Game, the ACC is out of the college football playoff, Wow,
which is crazy. Which then what happens is you then
have likely two non power four conference champions that get in,
and so there's a game between North Texas and Tulane,
right the powers of college football, that winner is going
to get in for sure. And then James Madison plays
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some garbage team Troy and James Madison.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
If they win, which they probably will, they'll get in.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
So watching the so it's the last game of the weekend,
but Virginia loses a duke, there's major chaos and you
have two kind of garbage teams in the college football Playoff.
The next thing that happens is Ben's Conference. If BYU
beats Texas Tech, which probably won't happen, but again, hard
to beat a team twice. If BYU pulls off that upset,
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they get in. So now you actually you move likely
you move a Notre Dame out for sure. And then
what likely happens is Alabama if they if they lose,
they probably become the first team in the twelve team
format that gets in as the twelfth seed at with
three losses. So there's actually a lot of I mean,
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so if you're college football geek like me, you know
these games this week can really do matter because I
think chaos that's in and a lot of what's going
to happen this weekend is kind of the eye test, right,
Indiana plays Ohio State, Indiana or Ohio State. If that's
a close game, the loser of that game will still
be a top four pick and have a bye week
one of the playoffs, which is amazing.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Can you guys quickly your opinion to explain the college
football calendar, because obviously with Lane kif and a lot
of people are complaining about, like this shouldn't be a thing.
That's even possible that a team that's eleven and one
and fighting for a national championship has to have their
coach go because he's going to take another job. It
would be you know, like, can you imagine if koc
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just left and took the Bear's job. I mean, I
know that's that doesn't make any sense, but it doesn't
any other Lane Kiffen just leaves and now Old Miss
is still potentially a national champion without him.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Yeah, And I think the difference is in the NFL
you cannot talk to a potential candidate until their season's over.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Well, in college football is wide open if you go back.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
So what can we do though?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
They could change they could change the rules that the
whole they don't do.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Whatever they want to do, they just never do. They don't,
they don't ever make any has to.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Be a governing There has to be a Commissioner of
college football that that manages it across one hundred and
thirty four teams and all the conferences, that sets a calendar.
The calendar has to align to the academic calendar. But
the first thing that needs to be set is a
college football playoff that actually happens and concludes in the
month of December, and then when you have a championship
game on New Year's Day, then the portal can open
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up after that game on January second, and any coach
can go wherever they want starting January second. But that's
the only way to clean it up. And the reason
why that's so important is most colleges are back on
campus for that second semester by mid January, so you
have to have a portal player commit and start school
in mid January. So the start date that you have
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to work from is when does that second semester start
in general, And that's why we're gonna We're gonna come
into the studio and break down to college Football Championship
game that's on January twentieth, this is too late, and
that's where the calendar is so messed up. And when
you do that, you know you think of like oh
miss having this record year. Well, and again I think
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it's there's just so much noise run the program. It's
a major distraction and it could mess with their chance
to be a national chane happiness dumb well and it
totally avoidable.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
To muddy everything up even more. It was there was
one of the two national signing days yesterday.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
So no, there's yes cohaed yes, correct, correct, Yeah, yep,
the major one, yes, because there yeah, there is another one.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yep. So to think of think of Penn State. Theym't
hire a coach. They didn't sign anybody, right, my gosh.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
So for my for my alma mater, our head coach
stepped away yesterday.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He retired, Chris climb and retired at Kansas State. He
left North he found a better job. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Uh so they they hire back Colin Klein, who was
who was at k State as a quarterback and as
a coach, went to Texas A and m as the
court offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Now is coming back.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well, all of this happens on national signing Day, which
wasn't National Signing Day what ten years ago, Like they
added this December, this early December.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, they moved it up.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So these kids out there choosing schools, and all of
a sudden, the school that you maybe want to go to,
the head coach retires on the day that you're going
to sign with that team. Now, Kansas State's is an example,
but it happens kind of all over the place, and.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Then all of a sudden, now Colin Klein may be having.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
These recruits that he's recruiting to Texas A and M
that he's got to be like, hey, hold on, guys, yeah,
I'm kind of talking to Kansas State right now. So
how does that kind of legally with tampering? And I'm
sure is it Elco the head coach at Texas A
and M. I'm sure he'd be pissed if he found
out that his departing offensive coordinator was trying to woo
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these other kids to Kansas State. Like it's the whole
thing is completely messed up in the NCAA. Along with
the nil stuff and everything is going on. They do nothing.
They are legitimately in empty, an empty, hollow governing body.
There are four letters there that stand for nothing. They
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don't do anything, and they have the power to do
so should totally change nothing.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Good stuff.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
So so our bet this week Ben, Ben gave three options.
I'm trying to close the gap year. I'm gonna lose
to Ben, but I'm trying to minimize the payment. So
this week he sends me, I'll take Ohio State over Indiana.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh really, I'll take Georgia over Alabama. Oh really?
Speaker 8 (25:17):
But then I took all the favorite Yes, so he
said Texas Tech minus twelve and a half. Yes, So
Texas Tech just beat this team twenty nine to seven. YU,
But you can't. You can't let twelve and a half
points sit out there. So I'm taking BYU. I like
it plus twelve and a half. Yeah, and Ben's got
He's going Texas Tech.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I take that farger. That's good.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Thanks yet pretty good that But what I loved when
the game that everyone should watch this weekend is it
will be really fun to see Chris Hockey's Indiana Hoosier
YEP compete on the biggest stage of college football, the
Big Ten Championship this weekend, to.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
See if they can hang in and quite Canley.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
I think they're going to hang it's I think three
and a half four and a half points, and you
watch to see we talked about coaching changes. The Ohio
State offensive coordinator, the dude that calls the plays, just
took the head job at the University.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Of South Florida. Yeah, heartline.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
So again there there's this whole chaos in college football,
not just the head coaches, but affects the coordinators. I
think that's a major distraction for Ohio Sate. Watch Indiana
pull off the episode.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Thanks Slash, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
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Speaker 2 (26:42):
All right, it is seven forty eight, run a little light,
so we should get right to it because, uh, Ben
Lieber is here and he is our Vikings connection.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Kind of yeah, kind of, you weren't the worst, Like no,
I really.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Did listen all we ask all we tell our kids, right,
just give effort.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's all. That's all I try.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
And I assume that's what your defensive coordinator said to
you is like, I don't think it's great that you're
out there, but I love that you're giving a try
hard Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Th reugh gritted teeth. He was like, get out, get
out there.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's time for Viking us on the power trip. That
go thank you, right, can we appreciate it? Koc talked
yesterday about his communication with our young quarterback JJ McCarthy,
who did practice yestordy.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
It's part of the learning process of understanding, especially with
the guys that are so competitive and have played a
certain style and made a play to win a national
championship by doing so, or whatever it is, maybe early
on in their career made a play to win a
game by doing so, like just the totality of it.
And when the full season's worth of information and data
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can now tell you that that needs to be a
part of your refined thought process protecting yourself and getting
what you can and it's a positive play, and then
you put appearing on that sentence by your ability to
move on and play the next snap.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
I feel like I'm walking right into a trap. But
we alluded to this yesterday. Ben, I don't know why
I feel like JJ's going to play well on Sunday.
Maybe because the expectation in the bar is so low. Yeah,
then I feel like it's not going to be a disaster.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I'm just kind of vibing that this is going to
be his best game. So this is all four quarters,
not just one brilliant quarter, like four quarters of solid
quarterback play.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But let's get what we do.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
This is the brilliance of the NFL because we have
six days to ruminate, to get emotional after a loss,
like on Monday and Tuesday, we collectively refresh, we get
ready for the next opponent. Within the Washington Commanders, we
start hearing things like this and then like.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Spin the wheel and we spin the whey.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
We're like, yeah, you know, you know, maybe it was
good for him just to sit out with that concussion
last week. He's you know, maybe you know this new
sort of mental approach that they're they're going to have
him just go out there and not overthink things and yes,
make good decisions, but just go there and rip it,
you know, just play football, do what you do best.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
You'll use your just your innate instincts.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Of how to play football because you'd been doing at
a high level since high school and college. Like, yeah,
it sounds great. Kind of hooks me again and thinking
the same thing as you. I mean, but so I
don't know what the reality is going to be. I
hope the reality is four quarters of clean, maybe not
explosive football, you know, I think that is.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That's where we may all have.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
To even probably KOs realizes he's got to dial back
a little bit, like not everything has to be explosive,
like he's used to have an explosive offense. You know,
maybe just all right, we'll pull the reins back a
little bit and it'll be a little bit more conservative,
and you know, we hope that we can run against
this team. They've had a you know, kind of a
shoddy run defense, but the last couple of weeks they
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really kind of put things together. So like what are
they really the last two weeks, Like, you know, are
they really figured out in the run defense or they
kind of a defense is going to give up a bunch?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So can we run the football and s these guys
and just you know, have.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Some play action passes and kind of have some safe
throws and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
The optimism is creeping up in me, but the reality
of like, can he play four quarters of clay football?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Let's see how you're vibing on this.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
According to DraftKings, what number of yards is basically even
money for JJ? So basically what is what is the
target number according to DraftKings for this week?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
One ninety.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
God, you're good. That's the exact number, is it?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
One ninety is at minus one oh four, So one
ninety is the number?
Speaker 6 (30:38):
What side do you take?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Because if you go to two hundred, two hundred is
plus one twenty five, yep. And then uh yeah, one
eighties at minus one thirty four, so even money, one ninety?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
What side do you go take the under on that?
You go under?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I'm gonna take the under on that, but I'm gonna
take the under in and keep it clean. And let's
just say, the biggest thing that we come out of
this is he does he does not throw an interception,
so it'll be you know, under the one ninety, clean
quick decisions and maybe we don't have a huge run
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after catch, which kind of keeps that number down. But
if he can get us in the red zone and
throw a touchdown or two and throw for one eighty
and two touchdowns, I'm cool with that. Don't turn the
ball over. That's our big that's our biggest achilles heel
right now is turnover. So hopefully that's what what KOC
means by just making good decisions, that's not going to
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be catastrophic.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
Uh, do you again another impossible question.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
We kind of ask you this on Monday, but I
want to see if your opinion has changed in the
last three days. What kind of a game do you
think Brozemer would have had to have had last week
to still be the starter this week?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
It doesn't matter, you don't Even.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
If he had gone for three weeks, he could have
went Nick Mullens on the bit and threw for four
to ten in three touchdowns and three interceptions out. You know,
going back to what you and you and I talked
about this season, especially now, is about how can we
develop what we think should be our franchise quarterback. And
you don't do that by by having him be a
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healthy scratch the following week.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I mean again, I'm sure JJ was cheering for Max,
and Max cheers for JJ and all that kind of stuff,
but that would have been devastating to the JJ argument.
If Brozemerg goes out there for one game lights it up,
and then they go back to JJ and he sucks
the rest of the year and Max doesn't get another chance.
He just has one awesome game and they go back
to JJ, that would have been pretty devastating that he
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can't do it.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
We gave Max one game and he lit it up.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
So the fact that Max struggled definitely helps the case
that maybe maybe there's just bigger problems that that JJ
can't solve on his own. That if you have JJ optimism,
that's got to be it right that that's Carson was okay,
Rosmer looked like a disaster. JJ's kind of looked like
a disaster. So maybe there's just something else going on
that can be fixed.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
The thing, the thing that JJ probably is they're sitting
in meetings and they're breaking the film down on Monday,
is he has to be looking at himself thinking, here's
an undrafted free agent that's you know, only played at
the FBS level for one year, whereas JJ played every
single year in a high power conference, and here he
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is going through his progressions like a pro and actually
was you know what Koc said and what we all
saw with their eyes almost too quickly, Like he was
going through you know, some of the reads like quay
quicker than he probably should have, and kind of missed
some throws because of that. Where on the inverse, JJ's
looking at that and his critique is, dude, you're missing
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throws because you're not getting through the progressions, like stop
taking so much time with each mechanical one, the two
to three, like it's got to be faster. So he
probably is like, dang, like this, so this is so
I can do this right, Like we've got a young
guy over here with hardly any experience and he's going
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through the progressions way faster than I am. So he
can look at that two different ways. He can get
down on himself and be like shoot, man, like what's
wrong with me? Or he says okay that if he
can do it, then I can do.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
It, thank you. Washington has nothing to play for. They've
lost seven straight.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, and not a great defense.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
No, not a great defense statistically, Like I said, I
do believe their defense is better than what the stats say,
especially the last couple of weeks. They've they've had some
you know, like a lot of teams. I mean it's
not unique to just us and to them, but they've
had they've had injuries. You know, they got a safety
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back last week. They they think that that kind of
put a cap on their defense a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Their communication was a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
They're just like they're getting they're getting guys healthy across
the board on both offense and defense. I think since
like week seven, uhs, Sam cos Me, the offensive lineman
came back.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Bills.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, yeah, Bill's it's actually Bill's nephew.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
And I was gonna line up against the cos most
often on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
The copy.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Chris, Yeah whatever.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
One of the receivers for the Viking scores, they got
to do the Cosby dance from the opening theme song,
right where they're all dancing in that like giant white room,
that void.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Only people would get it though.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, that'd be.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Great, just a Cosby dance. Yeah, skip the gritty, do
the Cosby.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That's not good advice. It's kind of a stretch.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Don't quote Corey on that contact. Just do it.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Just don't say it like that in the postgame press
conference or the locker room with Ben.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Well, so, what does the dance? You just like act
like you're putting like an eye dropper in your train.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
No, no, no, thank you.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
About the actual TV show his.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Personal Bill Cosby Hotel dance, it's kind of like frolicking around.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Like No, I think he made those sound effects in
the actual openings.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Like you did in this picture paid show.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, exactly. I'm thinking about our former safeties with the cults.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So for the touchdown celebration, you have people act like
they're sitting at a bar, and one of them act
like a lady, and then you have Bill I should
pray stop. Now, Hey, here's KOs On Jackson and darrisaw
and whether or not they'll be back.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (36:38):
Donovan is not quite there yet from a standpoint of
participating in practice, but he's rapidly recovering and doing everything
in his power to be on the field. It's been
awesome to see and we'll see how that works towards
the end of the week. He's proven coming off the
you know, the rest surgery earlier this year, he can
go out there and play at a pretty high level
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if he can get to that place where he's stable
and has the power and change the direction in those things.
And then, like I said, you know, Monday, of the
plan for Christian is to have his normal kind of
work week and flow and play in the football game.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, and that was sort of reflected in the injury report.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I think CD was limited, Donovan was was out, did
not participate. There's actually at it was quite a big
injury report, but a lot of guys were just limited.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
So that's good.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I mean, even you've looked at Ryan Kelly with his
hip injury, he was limited. Again, these practices at this
point in the season I don't think are high intensity.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
So what does limited look like? I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
And then you have some guys that just had a
day off because of rest, which is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, I heard I saw you in bursage talking that
over on Twitter yesterday.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah, Burstus kind of kind of tapped me on the
shoulder and just making a joke about yeah, we we
were you know, we're both vets in the league at.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Some point in time. I don't know how I got there,
just being a try hard guy.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
But you know, we never got days off like I
never got a Wednesday, Like Wednesday and Thursday, like really,
to be honest, like all three of the work days
are really really important work days to be on the field,
going through your mental checks, physically going through stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
You know, past drops are different sometimes versus certain teams,
versus what they do progression wise, Like there's so much
valuable information to be gained by practicing during the week
to get mentally physically prepared for Sundays and across the league,
they give these vets just days off, Like I don't
understand it.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I mean, if you don't have an injury, maybe it's
their way of masking injuries, like they don't have to
put it on the injury report. But yeah, just yet
another reason why this this generation of players are softer
than when we played. That's okay, they make a lot
of money there, though, Well it's hard to get softer
than what I was so so maybe from like versus standpoint, Yeah,
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it was pretty soft.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
You weren't I tried hard?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
You did?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, I did, I did try hard.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
All bit aside.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
I love that that guy thought he was complimenting you.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
You know, it wasn't malicious. Isn't that nuts?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Though I know he's meant to say that's why.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I'm just like it just became it's just so really awkward,
Like you don't have to say any but how.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Do you not have that social radar where you know,
I can't tell a professional athlete I didn't think he
was good.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I just started to try hard you could be. It's
like he's like he had to be audibly honest with himself.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
He couldn't just be like, hey, man, I thought you
were a great, great player, even if you didn't think
I was sure. You had to make sure that I
knew that, Like, yeah, you weren't great.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
You weren't the best, is what he said. You weren't
the best like you it was.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
It's like if I ran into the lead singer a train,
I wouldn't go Dear God. I go awesome band man,
congrats on all your success.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, lot, tough business to be successful, Like.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
Great job man, love your music. If you work hard.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
If you ran into God himself, you wouldn't say Dear God.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
He wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Why don't you do a lap
Speaker 6 (40:09):
More of the powers you wanting to after this on
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