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December 11, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You got that right. Thanks for tuning in. Something a right.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's a part of two Morning Show.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Here's Zach.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thanks Bud.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, thanks Budd.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, Fargo's over there, and so it's Ben Bet. Are
you playing the Initials game tomorrow? I am, well, yeah,
that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm going up to Ironwood, Michigan. Have you ever been
to Ironwood, Michigan? Either one yet, I've never heard of it.
Across you go, yeah, yeah, you go up through like
Superior and then a crossover in the Michigan that way.
You know, So five hours, it's only five hours, five hours,
I know, ain't no bad, ain't no bad. So it's
gonna be cold minus two for a high. But man,
that's why that's why you got that fx R. Quit

(00:51):
me keep you warm and I'll be in the booth
going say you're you're inside right, Yeah for sure?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, open doors open. How's that work?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I know, windows closed? Baby? Yeah, yeah he's not right, Yeah,
I don't need to experience it.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, I'm cool. Wasn't that one year? Is that the
year you were sick? You got real sick of the
game and Pa was like two degrees out in p
had the window open because that's what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
But I don't blame him. You got to feel the roof, man,
but yeah, he does it to feel it, to be
in the elements.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah he got called a
game with the with the windows closed echo.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
And yeah when he called the Wild two Wild games
he did a couple of years ago. He insisted on
being in like the sweet level area because he wanted
to be around the fans and not like way up
high in the press box.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
So it's outstanding. And he was very good. He was
so good at that.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, so you go.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm so we're supposed to do news.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
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(02:06):
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Speaker 1 (02:10):
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Speaker 3 (02:10):
It's gonna be a great week of week of hockey.
Hoky okay, hokey, he's a great hockey.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Two weeks.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Two weeks in the high school hockey.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Uh yeah, a few a few weeks. We got by
the way monam and I and War Tomorrow night and
the fan. So who's doing that? Myself and Danny Ryan,
So is that right?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, so it's it's all. It's all hockey, baby. Where's
that game at? Uh and and Mona Mede? I Well,
technically still Water San Hockey this year Hastings Hastings and
they're very excited. And I love Hastings, uh Shaney, Della
and the great folks down there at the They built
a wonderful rink out there, so cool. Yeah, we United

(02:52):
Heroes League all that. So yeah, it's a little bit
like Field of Dreams feeling. Yeah, it's super cool.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
They had a team back in the nineties with like
Ben you tech number venue in utech was like a
golfer tight end. Yeah, big time hockey. I think he
was a goalie. I think I think they got to
I don't think I have the state right. So you
don't think of hockey as like a haysting thing. But
they they were, they were up and they still have.
They've had some good players over the years.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, so they've got some any Cellerschellers Cellers Sellers.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Let's see, I'll just give you a couple of silly stories.
We'll get back to football. How about this? Oh yeah,
this is good. We have a krispy Kreme downtown. It's enormous.
It's out in Brooklyn Park Center. Which one would that
be right off for four n.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Four close to Yes Center somewhere around there?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, there go anyway. Krispy Kreme has a popular promotion
coming back tomorrow. The donut chain celebrating December twelfth, also
known as twelve twelve as the Day of Dozens. To
mark the occasion, krispy Kreme is selling a dozen of
their original glazed doughnuts for one dollar. What's another dozen
at a regular price? Oh?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Gotcha? Still price? Zac?

Speaker 6 (03:55):
You were just up there.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Oh boy, I don't I don't remember much about that
day anymore. That was, yeah, I I was like closer
to like ten or eleven.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Maybe, I don't know. I don't remember anything. Would anybody
take on the challenge of eating the twelve donuts?

Speaker 4 (04:12):
No?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah, no, because isn't that like a viral thing when
you smash the donuts into like a ball of.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Forty grams of sugar? How that we said it almost died.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
He rolled it into a ball and ate the whole thing,
and then I thought we were gonna have to call
nine one. Yeah, and he weighed three hundred pounds.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
I know, like my boys were talking about doing I'm like, no, like,
don't don't everts.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
We're talking about doing it?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Did I say balls?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
You said boys? That's oh boys? Yeah yeah, wow man,
that's not a good thing. But people are doing it
on TikTok. That's a TikTok thing.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah. I think you can do everything.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Everything's on TikTok challenge and every super silly thing that
these kids are all on TikTok. They all get as
if our own, our own boy brains weren't worse.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
Like good point, Yeah, We weren't even doing it for
like people's attention to go viral. We just did it
to make a couple of dudes laugh. We were doing
the same exact thing. Yeah, I was just doing it
three dudes laugh.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, coming up.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
With stupid ideas like I do it, Sauce, I doubled area.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, you buy, I'll do it.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
What was the MTV What was the MTV show the
nineties that had all the guys you in the called
the Jacks Jackass?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
There you go Jackass inspired jack Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Uh oh, Saucy listened to this. Cases of winter vomiting
disease are surging across the United States.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yes, skip Maynards last night.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, I couldn't do it. I should have yeah whatever, Yeah, No,
you shouldn't have winter should I don't know, missed something.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Feel bad about h CDC's wastewater survance. Testing has indicated
the neuro virus spreading earlier and faster than usual. Each year,
there are about two thousand, five hundred cases reported in
the and this year cases have been on the rise,
particularly with chubby guys out of a DINA. Health experts
have encouraged vigilance through proper hand washing, well, forget that.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, and frequently.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's not the right word. Frequently disinfecting surfaces and avoiding
direct contact with me. Telus Paul Laffert, Yeah, did you
have winter vomiting disase?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I'm convinced I had food poisoning. I feel a thousand
times better than I did yesterday. A thousand times are.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
One hundred percent?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, I mean I'm probably ninety five. I don't think
I remember one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
Yeah, so bad fa heeta seasoning.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It was.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
It was I ate these fijidas and at like midnight
I got I didn't feel well. At three point thirty,
I threw up. My wife got me a glass of
water that I asked for. I took too much of
it and I, Linda Blair, threw up off the side
of my bed. It's terrible, but I feel great.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Who cleaned it up?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh? My wife?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I threw up in the sink. Oh, you didn't even
make it the second time you threw up. You threw
up in bed, in bed.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
That's the worst. Please, dad, Yeah, it was not good.
My wife's a saint. I'm very very very thankful saint. Yeah,
WoT a couple of wins tell that story.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I will or or well or don't? Or did you
hear me talking abot Kenny Chesney on the way I did?
Did you hear the super Bowl ring story?

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, okay, yeah that could have been yours, would have
been yours, but instead they gave it to Kenny Chesney.
They said he deserved it more than you. They said,
do you think we.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Would have given pants on the ground?

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
You have to love that.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Actually can get a ring.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah. So I'm listening to chesney book right now, and
yeah and again on Howard Stern, he sounded like the
best guy ever. And I and my friend Nick Hoffman
played fiddle for him for fifteen years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he says he's a great guy. But in this book
it's and he's reading himself and he's doing him his self,
no favors, and just he's he just you know, but

(08:23):
he's been living in this this outside of reality for
so long that I think you just forget what it's
like to be a real regular person, you know. So
he talks about getting stressed out, and so I got
home a G three and flew to the Bahamas for
a month, and it really just changed everything. You should
really think about doing that if you get stressed out.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
Okay, yeah, let me go do that.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Ken butt John is where he's got his place. Yeah,
there you go. Real his place I believe got destroyed
in some major hurricane that came through. But I'm sure
he just like every other guy. I just flew to
the next island.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
That's probably right. So he's talking about the year the
Saints won the Super Bowl and and he and the
coach but whole Eyes became good friends. And he said
they were going out for drinks one night and they
were walking down the hallway at the Buttole Eyes's house
and he goes, hold on second, Kenny, And he went
in and got a box and he came back out,
and Kenny.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Goes, what is this?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
And he says he goes and he opens it up
and it's a Super Bowl ring with his name on it.
And the coach goes, Kenny, you were a part of this.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Whole thing, gone Bottle Eyes.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
A nice thing to do, But still I hate Yeah,
But how great is this team right now?

Speaker 6 (09:37):
So good guy is so good, Their defense is so good.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I hate him.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Go to man, Maybe maybe Texans defense can take.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
All we need him to win this weekend they play
the Packers.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Oh really at Green Bay Packers go to.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
The Packers are a favorite. There's a lot and a
half point favorite.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
I'll take the Broncos anyone.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
No, I would take the Broncos and the Broncos are there.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Broncos a favor Broncos plus two.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I don't want that, hey Hawk, Yeah, buddy, you know
how many people are in that New Orleans States organization
that just threw their coffee against the wall when they
heard that that probably didn't get a Super Bowl ring
actually works for the team.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, that's right, right, and.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
They're like that son of a bee. Gave that guy
a personalized Super Bowl ring? That four foot tall dude. God,
I'd be hot. Yeah, because think about this. Do you
think any one of us on the broadcast team would
get a Super Bowl ring?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, Pa would, then you should.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
You were a part of it, all those players and
coaches before. I would think it'd be had to fixed
players and coaches. But you think it goes well beyond
that all.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
The Oh yeah, I think yeah, he's just a fan.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
I mean I would say the communications staff, the equipment staff,
the training staff, everyone, every everybody that touched the football
would get a ring.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Guys who got cut like mid season, I think get yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I think they get to choose. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:25):
I think it's like a team option kind of thing.
Like if they're like, oh, this guy was a dude,
she doesn't get it ring.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, he would Rosie get a ring. You'd hope so deserved.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Well that's the that's the opposite of that story is
Schwartz and when he was on set after the nine
on a Sandler movie and Sandler says, I need you
to act like an adult today, and he goes, why
he goes, Butthole Eyes is going to be on set
and he's like no, no, and he like threw a
fit and was pissed. Yeah, He's like, no, I hate

(11:58):
that guy. I don't want any of that because Tyler
or the guy Tyler Ladge, he's uh, he was he's
a big Saints fan and he was like, no, I'm
not I'm not talking to that.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
He was so pissed about it.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, but he I think he.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Also, I think Adam Sandler also got a Super Bowl ring.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well that'd be cool, but that's ridiculous. Kenny Cheesnay had
nothing to do with it. Oh no, he had everything.
He was part of the team.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
You're probably saying national anthem.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Did he also hurt one of our offensive guys? Oh yeah, probably.
He was putting money up for the bounties. Where the
money came from? Was funding the bounty?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Is the week fifteen? This week in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yes, sir, that crazy said there's nothing he can do
about it.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
You have to go in.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
And I got back in.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I just did.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I just got back in just now, and which is
good because I just made my pick just now.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Which whould you pick?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I took the Eagles to beat the Giants?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh oh yeah done?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Eagles to beat the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Chesney could beat the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
You're part of the team.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Part I love? How is now part of red Dead Redemption?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm a fan. I can't help it, but that story
just drove me crazy. Probably wouldn't have if it hadn't
happened the way it happened. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (13:22):
You're reading the book? Okay, Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I just choose not to. I'm not part of that team.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I've had about enough for Kenny. Yeah, I have a plan.
He just needs more time in the Bahamas.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Hey, New Mexico or New Mexico State, New Mexico, and
that's not the team where a dude went right.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Jerry Hilly. Jerry Hill is at New Mexico State, That's right, Yeah,
I mean it's they have a coach that's uh really
kind of a different dude, really, you know, but they've
really rallied around him. They actually had a really good
year nine and three. Can you imagine losing to New
Mexico in the bowl game. You have no idea who
you're gonna have shown up, right, So I think, well,
we'll break it down a little bit next couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
But they.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
They you know, you know, Ben and I have talked
about this a little bit off air, like the Bowl games,
the meaning of it, getting ready for twenty twenty six.
I don't know. They're they got to find ways to
make this somewhat meaningful. I will say this, The people
that put on the Bowl games are the people that
are funding a lot of those NIHL checks and that
revenue sharing check. So student athletes pulling out of the
Bowl games, you might want to think twice before you
do that. This is that these are the people that

(14:28):
are funding your your your lifestyle and your checks.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
But there's yeah, I mean I saw that side of it.
To somebody else I heard made that point, I was like, yeah,
I hadn't thought if that was Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Yeah, but it's you know, it gives you a chance
to be at the team. There is there's still is
something in terms of development. It gives you some extra
practice time if you think you need it. But I
think the Bowl games have lost or luster. But mag
gonna tune on in December twenty six and watch them play? Yeah,
I probably will. But there's a feeling about the minute
that Iowa State poll. I think Iowa State Minnesota maybe

(14:58):
had a little bit of excitement and the headlines Matt
Campbell's at Penn State. It's a little bit of a
geographical rivalry. But New Mexico, like, I don't know, I struggle.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Does your feeling about the Gophers change if they beat
New Mexico or lose to New Mexico.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
If they lose, it kind of does a little bit.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
I mean I think next year.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
You know it just three it might change how people
think about twenty twenty five a little bit. I still
think when you when you look at the body of work,
undefeated at home, couldn't win on the road, you know,
had to come from behind versus Purdue and Rutt curs
and and so I think there's a little bit of

(15:38):
still mixed. I mean I talked to a lot of
the fan base. It was a little bit of mixed
thoughts in the year. Really excited that we got the Acts,
but you have to go beat a New Mexico just
to have a little bit of a statement of like,
all right, twenty twenty five, maybe what wasn't as bad
as it was, but it does is it ready? Does
it help me feel better about twenty twenty six? No,
not at all.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Nope. But you know what gets Drake crazy legs Drake
some more playing time.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, they've won six straight New Mexico Gophers.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
Yeah, are they aren't they? Nine and three nine three?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, Gophers are two and a half point favorites right
now on DraftKings.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Let's think about it. We'll go to Hyve and think
about it. Thank you for guys, too, buddy.

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Speaker 1 (16:53):
Hi Chris Harky, I am.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
I am for you. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I appreciate it. And it's time for some sports.

Speaker 9 (17:01):
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Speaker 3 (17:10):
The Minnesota Wild take on the Dallas Stars tonight right
here on the Fan. The Wild coming off of a
road trip which she was was fine. It was two
and two chet I did, and tonight it was it was.
It was like I said, there was good and bad.
Certainly a lot of bad, but a lot of good too.
And they came off with a four to one win

(17:31):
on Monday night against Seattle, the Dallas Stars over a
very very good hockey team. They have a twenty one
in twenty one, five and five record and have won
four straight, so not a great team you want to
play especially when you're beat up like the Wild hour.
But we'll learn more of this later this morning with
the injuries and all that after morning skates. So again,

(17:54):
seven o'clock puck drop right here on the fan, six
forty five pregame with all Kevin Faulness and the crew.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Did I make a massive.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Mistake by not betting the Parish bit versus Corey? The
Colorado Avalanche, probably Lightning, the Florida Panthers, and the Dallas
Stars are all favored to win and have a bet
in the playoffs at all.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I don't think there's going to be.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, you'll have every team in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean, the Stars have forty seven points, the Avalanche
have forty nine. In the Wild the closest to those
both those teams at thirty seven, ten away from Dallas.
So it's it's a been a dominant season by those
those people.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
And I pointed out last week like the Wild would
be either they'd be leading the Atlantic Division, they'd be
close to leading every other division. But because they happen
to be with the Avs and the Stars, they're third.
But they should. The good news is they're they're in
a pretty.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Good right now. Hopefully they can keep that going.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Throughout the season and make their way back to the
Stanley Cup playoffs and after that, who.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Knows, who knows, who knows.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
How you been feeling about like the national games kind
of broadcast presentation, Zacho. I was watching the crack and
versus Kings game a little bit yesterday. I kind of
I kind of like the teams like they're do. They're
they're trying to make the national games a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, I mean, for the most part, T and T
does a great job.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
They got some criticism last year because they had some
playoff games where they called the games remotely, which wasn't great.
But let's tn T, they got a good crew and
ESPN though we'll see more of them now that when
football wraps up, but they've they've done a good job.
So uh yeah, I mean it's it's middle of the
road now for this contract, the TV contracts, they'll renewing

(19:48):
it a couple of years and hopefully the NHL can
keep getting a ton of money because they have been
very good financial wise, so hopefully that continues. But you
never know, this bubble is going to burst eventually, but
it's working for the NBA too. The NBA, man, they're
the ratings are are way up because they've basically doubled
their national TV inventory.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
So wow.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I was watching the Wolves on Peacock the other day
and it was, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Like you got to look up what day it is
to find out what where the NBA got.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I couldn't. Yesterday I saw the Lakers game was on.
I'm like, what the hell is it? It was on Prime.
I guess. I guess Wednesdays are Prime Day.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
That Peacock, Prime, NBC, ESPN, ABC, Quibi, Quibi BT BT
Wow Scooching.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
The Gold Network. Yeah, first, I love that network.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
The golfer basketball team men's basketball team fell to Purdue
last night. They didn't cover the thirty points, just barely.
Eighty five to sixty or eighty five to fifty seven
was the final?

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Vegas always knows.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Apparently Crocker Johnson scored eleven of the seven in the
first half.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
What to call him that? Why would you say that?
Imagine Johnson?

Speaker 7 (21:06):
You drop it was teammate Honky Smith.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
A h here's that cracker.

Speaker 10 (21:13):
Nico medven As the pointed, how we we played in
the in the second half of our guys, you know,
really handled it well in the in the first half.
I mean, you know they're they're you know, an elite
program for for a reason, and you know they picked
up their defense in the second half, which you knew
that they would. I don't think we responded very well
to that, and you know, we missed some shots at

(21:34):
the rim, I thought early in the in the first half,
and then yeah, I'm sorry in the second half, and
then the boy they went on that run and we
just could not, you know, find a way to to
stem the tide. And thought they just kind of broke
our spirit.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I like, man, it was two at the half. As
he mentioned, they're great first half, it just kind of.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Do you say they were thirty point favorites, thirty four underdogs?

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, the wind spread, Oh so they covered. I thought
it was eighteen and a half.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well, you were wrong. I read, uh, I read somewhere
that was there. Was it eighteen and a half? I
think it was.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
We talked as yeah, we'll look it up later, but
I thought that's what I could be wrong. I thought
that's what Parker and I talked about yesterday.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
So you guys talked about a lot of things. Estoray're
like two cats in a castle.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
We were having a castle, just having tea. Huh. We
were sitting down this chef favorite Saturday morning carsoon.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, Hawks googled that cat's in a castle.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yep, that was you two yesterday, like two cats in
a castle.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
He didn't say cats.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
The Vikings in action on Sunday night Ben Leber's seven
twenty kickoff between the Cowboys and the Vikings. We'll talk
more about that in Vikings US after the break. You know,
the Cowboys are second in the NFC, is six six
and one record.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
They are fighting like hell for playoffs.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Bought the wild the Vikings, by the way, they're not
eliminated yet. They just need about a billion things to happen,
but they are not Matthew exactly out. Yeah, and the
Wolves battle the Golden State Warriors tomorrow night, Max.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
It should be a fun one.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Was one of those games that they haven't hadn't scheduled
till like last week did the Emirates NBA Cup. But
they will be back in action. Anthony Edwards had forty
points in the Lost of Phoenix on Monday that ended
the Wolves five game winning streak. But it's time to
start a new winning streak. Max and Golden State Warriors
could be a good team to do that again.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Yeah, they've been. They've been really wishy washy this season.
They're on a two game little win streak right now.
And there, like you said, Anthony Edwards forty points. He's
been on fire point games in the league. He's been incredible.
If the Wolves had even just a couple more wins,
I think he'd be mentioned more in MVP talks on
a bigger market.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, that's it's tough when there's shake.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Gilles Alexander exists, and Nicola Jokich and Luka Doncic exists
as well.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
And Dusty Yeah, he's back from Jamaica. In countdown, he's.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
Like a Dusty count They're not related, remarkably, they're not.
They're not related. Yeah, but yeah, it would be. It
should be a fun matchup between the Wolves and the Warriors.
We get to see Steph Curry in action for the
first time since last year's Game one in the second
round against the Wolves.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
At least he's back.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
He's back. I mean he's been back all season, but
the first time we locally here.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, I was back for us, obviously, that's what I'm
meant on me obviously. Yeah, you'll be watching, right, I've
already watched it. Oh yeah in my brain, in my head.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh you love basketball so much? Who wins? And how?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I can't tell you? And hello and listen? Uh if
I told you, then you go bet on the money?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I can't do that for you, So stick around and
talk about football. If you do a good job, I'll
let you know.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
How about that kid, I don't know. I don't know
if I can speak much about the game.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Power trait Betts texted me and said Purdue was a
twenty point fa Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Power trick Bets. Sorry, Justin and I we did settle
on the Army Navy bet. I'm gonna take Army plus.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Six and a half. He's gonna take the favorite and Navy.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Six and a half?

Speaker 5 (25:13):
All right?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
There you go, yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Actually, we'll be back with Vikings, Nears and much more
morning you after this.

Speaker 8 (25:19):
On the.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I'm sorry, we're getting our Chick fil a all dished out,
So thank you, Saucy.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yes you bought it. Yeah, he bought it all.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
I know.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
He's so sweet, such a nice guy. Is this you're
a Christmas gift everybody? No, it's essentially in my car.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
My Christmas gift for you is Vikings News.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Oh yes.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
On the Power Teah presented by Yeah let Go, says,
series says the first stow, it's all happening. What's going on?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Did I get hashy bees?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, you take mine? So I didn't mine yet?

Speaker 7 (26:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, give those because look he's fading away. I am,
I haven't eaten in thirty six hours. Can help him?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Stuff for hashy be in his brain is on the here.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Oh no, this shy thank you?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, you go ahead, eat those man, because look at you.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Oh I can't wait. That's what's in that tiny box
his hash browns like little tots. Oh I thought it was.
I thought it was like a Mickey Bee's little I
haven't eaten in so long. That's your first thing? You happy?

Speaker 6 (26:58):
Yeah, look at you.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know what we're gonna do.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Read you you just yeah you just litle face. Keep
that mic off and this.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Little face baby, And if you don't need enough, you
can suckle, come on over.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
And if you're not willing to digest yet I can
chew it for you your baby burden, Yeah I can,
baby bird.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
You what I'm not gonna if the light did leave
your eyes when you found out.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
You didn't have that.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
And no word di he say like, no, no, it's fine,
you can said even They didn't even cross his mind.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I know, because I really wanted those hash browns.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
But you can have them.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Oh yeah you said that half heartedly.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, not even a quarter hard. It was just like
all the hashy browns before you hands them over.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Because of that.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
If you guys watch Purbus yet, No, it's like one
hundred on. You gotta watch it. That first episode is
you gotta watch? It's one of the best first episodes
I've seen it in a long time.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything
like this.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
Same guy that for those that don't know, it's the
same guy that made Breaking Bad Better called Sola. But
it's like a sci fi kind of spin on.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
His normal I'm not gonna tell you.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Yeah, it's best to go in blind. I didn't really
know what it was about in the first episode. Will
really it'll really grip.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Just eat your hash is it?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Apple? I needed them? I needed. You guys are one
hundred percent right. That was a d head move of mine.
I'm sorry. I was counting on you know. It's okay, bro, Yeah,
they're yours round. I can take if you want. A
person would have gone, it's cool, man, but I'm I'm
hung him like a little bit. I'm hungry. The last

(28:44):
eight is in my sink. I'm not a good person
right now in your arms. You guys, get another sandwich?
Could I have it? Are you done with that? There?
We all eat that thoughts.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Here's here's JJ McCarthy. He talked to the media yesterday.
He talked about reads as a quarterback. Interesting stuff here.

Speaker 11 (29:13):
I feel like in every single offensive scheme, there's so
many different types of read, peer progression, coverage, base squeeze reads,
all these different ways of just be finding the open receiver.
Peer progression is a great way to have an answer
against every single coverage you start one, two, three, four,
Uh coverage, base reads. It's kind of like, Okay, I
got to make sure I diagnose and process this coverage

(29:34):
and the right way at a quick enough time to
be on time for that concept on that specific side.
But uh, yeah, every single offense has them. It's just, uh,
you know, how much do you have in terms of
you to read?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
And it's interest. I know that was kind of convoluted,
but listen to this because he goes a little different
deeper into I hope it's this one one of them.
I hope it's He talks about what happens after the
snap and how you have to get rid of the
ball so quickly check this out.

Speaker 11 (29:59):
I feel like the emphasis me personally on just watching
the tape and self scout how many times could I
put it in play as quickly and efficiently as possible,
because that's just stacking positive plays and that's continuing the
momentum of those drives. And I think, you know, the
offensive line did a great job of protecting, great job
getting their hands down and coach O'Connell called them at

(30:19):
great times and you know, generated a great flow. So
I feel like it's just putting it in play.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
That's the number one way.

Speaker 11 (30:25):
To you know, keep completions going and keep the drives going.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yep, that's not the right one. Let me let me
try this. Yeah, okay, this is this might be the one.
This might be the one because he talks about, you know,
all those things you just said about the different reads, Ben,
but you also have to throw in the idea that
you got to make those reads while you're being chased
by really big people.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I think it's the rush, you know, that rush.

Speaker 11 (30:49):
It gets to you quick and you know they're doing
so many things on the back end that yeah, you
can figure out it's covered too, But by the time
you figure out it's cover too, you're on your back.
So just being able to you know, process quickly post
snap and gather the information that you gathered pre snap
to help you make that conclusion.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Oh, I am not. I did say.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
Really, I saw a really interesting conversation about this with
like the Kevin Seaffert and I think Kurt.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Warner journed joined in on Twitter yesterday.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Could you talk about the kind of peer progression thing, Ben,
because from what I was reading, it was sounding like
it used to be mostly like all read the defense,
read the defense, read the defense. But now these defenses
are so good that there's started to be more of
like a combination between that and peer progression.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Well, I think it is, as Corey would say, a
little column A, a little column B. A lot of
these we've heard from let's say a generation of quarterbacks
in college, they don't have to read anything. There was
never they were never really taught how to read a
defense and what coverage there, and they just look to
the side. The coach kind of tells them what side
of the field they need to look at, what to scan,

(31:53):
kind of who to throw to. So it takes a
lot of mental processing.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Out of it.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
So I don't even know from a young age are
trained to actually break down coverages in real time. And
then you actually get to the NFL, and then you
have really creative defensive coordinators that can take a pure
Cover two, find three different ways to get to Cover
two based on pre snap the skies, and all of
a sudden, you think one thing in pre snap the

(32:18):
ball snapped. All of a sudden, now it just becomes
just regular Cover two. But it takes a while to
kind of mentally get there. And then you have to
remember that these receivers they're given a lot of times,
most like at least two routes to run, like one
play in one play, if I'm if I'm getting they

(32:40):
if they come down to bump man coverage, well then
I have to run this sort of route on this
particular play. If I feel like it's press and they
actually bail, then I can stop my route and find
an opening on this particular route. So you have to understand,
and that's why they talk about that chemistry between quarterbacks
and receivers.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
You have to think as the receiver.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Would think in real time as they're running across the
field of like, oh, do I have a guy chasing
me on my back in man coverage? Zacho, hold on
and then and then continue that so I can keep
the separation as I'm going across the field, or that
guy drops off and I'm actually gonna run to another
person zone, I need to stop and sit down and

(33:25):
find that void. So there's two different ways to run.
Even just an over route or like a or like
a shallow route where you think, oh, he's just going
to go from this left hash to that and to
the right numbers. Well he will in man coverage, but
he won't in zone. He'll sit it down maybe at
the right HASH spot. So I don't know how they

(33:45):
do it, to be honest with you, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
That's why.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
That's why truthfully, there's like what fit fourteen quarterbacks in
the league that can probably win you a Super Bowl.
Of the thirty two teams, only about fourteen that can
actually do it.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's the thing that's good.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's a lot, but that's the job.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
But that's the job, and that's why you get paid
the big bucks, and that's why you You do have
to stand in there and take a hit and feel
the pocket and do all of that stuff that's going
on down the field and oh yeah, they're the pocket
might collapse and now you have to escape and now
you just have to play backyard football and then throw
everything out so crazy, you know, even going back to

(34:20):
last week, the way that they ran into some of
the Cover three stuff is like they would have a
standard Cover three looking deal where the safety is coming
down to play that to one to fill one void,
and then the ball snap and then he'll go play
the corner spot and then the corner will play the
linebacker spot and the linebacker will play the safety spot.
So that's about as simple as I can break it down.

(34:41):
But when you look at it on film, like, well,
that's just Cover three. Yeah, but they got to it
in a really kind of bizarre way, and the quarterbacks
got to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
How bad is this Dallas defense. It's pretty bad.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
The front four, front five, however you want to say it,
because they do have five guys of the line scrimmage
at times.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
That's delicious.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
It is delicious. Not if you're yeah, not if you're
the opposing offense. It's not delicious. Got the linebackers are
pretty terrible, and because some of the injuries in the secondary,
they're not very good either. So it's really the back
end of their defense is not good. They're front four

(35:23):
in their defensive line, they're pretty good. They they can
wreck a game just just with those guys, and that's
why they you know, that's why they brought in quinnin Williams.
They wanted to bring specific type of players to have
like more of a team defensive rush versus just Micah
Parsons who is just like a one man wrecking machine.
And it's kind of working. But you can't exploit these

(35:44):
guys defensively. The thing is, yes, their offense is good.
They do score a lot of points. They're a really
slow starting team. I think the math is in the
last six games they average less than three points in.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
The first quarter.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
So I think it was the same thing with the Commanders.
They were a horrible first quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
just quiet going to just keep stuff on your face.
Three hash Brown, I'm surprised you're not actually done yet.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I've talked for like, I'm surprised you haven't choked as
much as your eat.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I'm most so are you even chewing? Can chew? You
guys are gonna eat all yours.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
You're beating all mine?

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Well, so yes, and an in a. You know, one
of the keys to this game for us is truly
starting fast. And I would it wouldn't surprise me if
KOs does the same thing where he wins the toss
and takes the ball.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, I love it too. It worked last week. Do
it again?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yep. Back to one more thing on the coverages and
stuff like that, because this is exactly what you just
spoke about. Somebody asked JJ Mack about his chemistry with JJ,
and he talked about this.

Speaker 11 (36:58):
You know, he sees the game come different than I
do from his perspective and being able to see what
he does on tape on the back side of things
and me coming to the sideline and seeing something on
the iPad and saying, hey, you know, maybe if we
throttle this down right here and he calls it again.
That's going to be you know, a nice void right
there for you to sit and catch that ball. But
it's just you know, growing along the way, we're seeing

(37:19):
new defenses going against new players, new coaches, and there's
going to be more obstacles that come, and it's just
how good is our relationship and communication to be able
to overcome those and you know, prepare us for future obstacles.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Can I ask, is that what we're talking about when
we talk about the games slowing down? Because all of
those things happening in your brain at one time. If
literally you can be thinking so quickly that the game
slows down, then you can remember the conversation you have
with JJ about that particular play twenty minutes ago on
the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
I think when they say the game is slowing down,
it is a combination of both coverage reads in pure
progression and where that those worlds start to blend together.
Where you're where you've seen so many coverages and then
you've watched enough film to know that just by body language,

(38:13):
you sort of have a better beat on what they're
going to be playing. And so even though you're not
training yourself to be, you know, in this coverage breakdown
and like, oh, we're in coverage progression here, then it
is sort of inherently because of all the reps that
you've taken and everything you've seen, you just sort of
get it, you know, and you're like, oh, I'm no

(38:35):
longer fooled by these guys, you know, like a Harrison
Smith yo yoing back and forth, and like what it
doesn't matter because you know what, I figured out that
it doesn't matter what he's doing. I just have to
watch this linebacker over here, and if he adjusts his
run gap, well, then that means that the safety is
actually going to insert himself and be the run stopper there,
So I don't have to look at that you ever.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
I'm sorry, this just prepped in my mind. I've never
thought of this before. As a linebacker on any defense
you've ever played. Have you ever been looking at the
guy lined up at defensive end, going, dude, you are
You're you're giving it to them every play. They're watching
you and they know what you're doing. You're you're giving
it away every play for a teammate, like where you
know one of your guys is giving him the sign

(39:18):
that he's doing something.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
I never saw the game like that, Okay, but you
definitely you get enough experience where you can look I
can look at a formation when I was playing. I
can't do it anymore, but I could look at a
formation as they break the huddle and as they're getting
lined up, and just by the way that they settle
into their their stance, I mean a I'd be like, okay,

(39:41):
it's a runner a pass, like I already I already have.
I'm ninety percent certain it's one or the other, just
by the way they stand there and they get in
their stance. And then when you watch enough film and
then you see the formations and the things that they
can do in the way that the guys come, you know,
come in motion and settle in motion, just by the
way that they their eyes are looking, like if he's
looking this way or this, like you can break it

(40:04):
down like that that I would concentrate more on, like
what our guys were doing.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Okay, you know.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
And but the thing is you have to self scout
yourself too, because like, okay, on certain blitz, is what
am I tipping? What am I showing you're trying to
make everything look the same. It's just like a you know,
if Corey was sitting here, it's like a card player.
You want every every hand to look the exact same.
He did pass away and we're happy about that. Yeah,
it sounds like he'll be back tomorrow though from the dead.

(40:32):
So I think that I think that in your world hockey,
when you play with your band members and nobody else
knows that they missed a note, but you do.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
You weren't thinking about them missing a note.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
You just knew it sure, and like you you know
based on how they move around the stage where you
can move around the stage and you don't have to
choreograph that, you just know it. So it's kind of
the same dance when we're on the field, is like
you see it enough times. And that's why I think,
you know, for all of us here to be hyper

(41:05):
hyper critical about either JJ McCarthy is the guy or
isn't the guy? You we still probably need about thirty
to maybe thirty more starts before we really really know.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Well said, let's.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Give it to him. Yeah, you know, I like it
be a fun game to watch on Oh, I can't wait,
so it's going to be great. And again, with that
defense being what they are, whether we win or lose,
there's another chance for us to see some good stuff
out of the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
He could put up some big numbers. Yeah, they're that bad.
They lead the leads.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
That is that an overstatement?

Speaker 5 (41:39):
No, that's not an overstatement at all. I mean they
have historically, through this whole season, given up a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Did you just create a word did you say pistorically?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, historically that's host historically.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah, they're so bad. It's historic historic or it's like
past history yeah historic, Yeah, it's pi historic.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Yeah, wow, that's a happy accident. Yeah, it's kind of like.
So I was on the Twin City is Live last week.
We were talking about, you know, in Minnesota, everybody's so nice.
Everybody leaves that little that little like crumlet that's left
on like let's say an appetizer, like nobody nobody's like,
nobody takes the last one.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
And then out of no where, I just said, that's
the Minnesota morsel. That's great too, And yeahs like did
you just come up with that? I'm like, I guess
I did. I don't know. He's like that should be
that should. That's what we should.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
We were talking about why the quarterbacks make the big bucks.
That's why you make the big bucks.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
And morsel, are you gonna eat the rest of that hawk?
I canna be morsels left over there.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I've got nothing left. You've eating it.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Well, you've been playing music for five minutes. Go to
break so I can eat the
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