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October 21, 2025 • 45 mins
Author Pat Harris talks about his book A Season on the Drink: A Novel, Cory has Oregon Trail and toilet Headlines, Jonathan Greenard calls in

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The legendary actor and comedian Adam Sandler set to take
over Grandcasine Arena this Wednesday, and The Power Trip is
your last shot at tickets.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Listen to.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Definitely farted backs What Color number nine zero, fifty three,
twenty six. Well, a few more chances tomorrow, Good luck, just.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Some wisdom, mister Ken.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Welcome back, Patrick Morning Show. It's gonna be a great Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hawk invited himself over alright. I know we always here,
ladies and gentlemen. Here we are. Marty's over there, This
is Rocket Club. Marty's over there.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
My beloved Johnny Bones is over there. Corey's back from
traveling abroad. Hi, WHOA brought back some jewels, very interesting necklaces.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Question when did you they look good? They look good
on you. The crown's a bit much.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Not as I was there a day and a half
before the place was robbed.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Unbelievable, not a cocident, believable.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
But also, I don't you know what, Pat, I don't
think you've ever been in the air with us, even
when we were overseas and we were serving our troops.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Have you ever been on the partrop morning?

Speaker 6 (01:12):
So before you know, I've been here a few times
for the Troops projects, and I think I was on
briefly when we were in Kuwait together, which is fabulous.
And appreciate all you guys do for serving our troops
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, and we can talk more about that.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
We also obviously want to talk to you about your book,
and I don't know how much you're willing or even
able to talk about what might happen in the future,
but I definitely want to talk more about serving our troops.
But first, A Season on the Drink. Now, listen, we're
having you in because your book is sweeping the nation.
You're a friend of the show. Obviously, it's a great story,
and as I mentioned before we went to break, I
know this is going to be a lifetime movie at

(01:45):
the very least, maybe a Netflix thing, maybe a major release,
and we want to be in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
A Season on the Drink.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
You're absolutely in it, hok and anybody who wants to
be it here can can definitely be in it. And
I'm really excited about it. And people have time talked
about it as a movie. You know, right now, it's
a it's a book. It's it is all over the country.
I did go to the Vikings game in Dublin, and
it was on sale in Dublin and Belfast as well.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
As that must feel cool, right, pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
I stopped in the store in Belfast and said hi
to a bunch of folks and that was really cool.
So but it's a it's a really special story and
I'm excited to get it out there locally here and
I just appreciate the chance to be here and uh
and talk about it and and really kind of spread
the story that that I heard, you know, way back
in the late eighties of something that really special that

(02:33):
happened in Saint Paul.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now it's listed as fiction, but is it based on
a true story? Is that this? Is that the way
it goes?

Speaker 6 (02:38):
You know, it's about eighty five ninety percent true. And
it's a story I heard when I was a Vista
volunteer way back in the day making one hundred and
ninety eight dollars a month working at Catholic charity.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Isn't that you quit bragging pace and make a big
dollars in the same time.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
They just round it up and make it two hundred
And I thought about that.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's pretty cheage.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
Yeah, beers were too bucks at Ogeraz back then, I
could have used it.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Of that place.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
So for people who are unfamiliar, tell us the story
behind us Season on the Drink.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Yeah, well, it is really a true story that I
heard way back in the eighties, and it's about a
group of chronic alcoholics that lived in a home for
chronic alcoholics in Saint Paul called the Saint Anthony Residents.
And in the late eighties they formed a softball team.
They were playing pickup softball in Saint Paul. And these
folks are really kind of the forgotten of our community

(03:29):
who had been to treatment, you know, ten to twenty
times and end up living at the Saint Anthony Residence,
which is a wet house where you get forty eight
dollars a day, a room over your head, and three
squares a day.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
And they formed a softball team, and they got organized.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Catholic charities organized them, got them, got them uniforms, you know,
like the longest yard type thing almost, and they played
against corporate teams. And I don't want to give everything away,
but you can kind of guess what happened. You know,
they did very well against all these corporate teams, and
then really kind of showed everybody that you know, there
is hope. You know, they're no different than us. So

(04:08):
on the baseball diamond, the softball diamond, if you will,
you know, we are all, at the end of the day,
created equal.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
And so it was a story that I heard, and.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
I worked at Catholic charities for a few years longer
and got to really know my main character, whose name
is real Marty Peterson, who played baseball at the University
of Minnesota, and you know, he kind of anchored this
incredible team of chronic alcoholics who you know, some of
them were intoxicated.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
They were all smoking while they were playing. And you know.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
His mouth right right, two stories of piles of cigarette
butts in your second base when you're sliding into second.
But really it's it's you know, there's a lot of
sadness in it, a lot of humor in it. But
really the story that that that I would say probably
never happened. You know, a group of people that in
this community and in any community, is almost completely forgotten,

(05:07):
and they show the rest of us that, hey, you know,
we're here, We're not forgotten.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know, this is who we are.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
So we tell them, as they say, you know, yeah,
and it was a special season and I really wanted
to tell that story.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Story of sticking together and having each other's back.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Right absolutely, you know, camaraderie, you know, in alcoholism back
at the wet house, but then it kind of transferred
to the field, and you know, some of them got
out of there and you know, got sober and got jobs,
and some of them didn't. And so it was it
was really kind of this one moment that I learned
in my life that you know, how you can treat

(05:42):
people and how you look at people who are you know,
quote unquote the lowest of the low in our community,
but ain't no different than me, you know, And so
I really guided me for forty years and I want
to tell the story.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
And there the book is here again. That's our guest
is Pat Harris.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
And by the way, we will have Jonath grenardoo the
r for those of you who have Viking fans.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Stick around for that.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
But the book is called A Season on the Drink,
Is it true? I don't want to give away the ending.
And Corey, I think you and I were talking about
the sports show at the end of the stories are true.
The poll ads by the team.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And sell it, choose not to sell it. Maybe yeah,
earlier this team has more of a payroll.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
But it's funny if we did track the eighty six Twins,
you know, so you know, and it's legit how we
tracked it. So you know, these guys, you know, won
it all at eighty six. There you go, I said it,
and you know, which is pretty obvious. And then eighty
seven the Twins win it all, and you know, it's
just that, you know, you look at how sports can
really kind of guide people. People ask me all the

(06:43):
time does sports matter? And you know, I remember my
dad being a nursing home and every TV had the
Vikings game on. Every TV had had the Twins game on,
and and for these folks that really were the most
down and out in our community, this game was softball
really mattered to them. And that's why I'm really excited
to tell this story.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I mean, it's a pretty.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
Special story and it's got a lot of history, a
lot of everything in it.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
So is this your first book, first time you've really
been an author. It is my first time as an ia.
So tell me about that process, for instance, what about it?
What about this or how did you get to the
point where you're like, I'm going to dedicate my life
to writing this book about this nineteen eighty six softball team,

(07:28):
and you couldn't let go of it, like, how did
that work?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well?

Speaker 6 (07:32):
I couldn't like all the story, so I knew I
had to write it. And you know, you get married,
you have kids. You know, I ran from office, we
served stay one hundred and forty five thousands.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Things going on, right, Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
And I think I kind of did a hockey thing
where I got up at four o'clock in the morning,
and you know, I really did a lot of work
and stayed up really late and really dedicated myself to
telling the story that I thought was important and probably
the last you know, you know how we all try
to write books, And I spent about thirty years trying
to write a book. And then I really sat down,

(08:04):
and it was about five years ago, and said that,
you know, here we are, we're getting older.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I gotta tell the story. You know, I got to
tell this.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Story about Marty and this ragtag team, got to tell
other people about it.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
And it was that four o'clock in the morning thing.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
You know, when you get little kids, you own your
house from four am to seven am.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It was fabulous. Do you recognize what about that story
grabs you?

Speaker 8 (08:27):
Like?

Speaker 7 (08:28):
Do you recognize the value that you're reflecting in that
story that you couldn't let go of it?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah? And I hope it comes out to the book. Yeah.
I mean, it really is.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
About that perception of how we look at everybody and
then we all have soul, we all have humanity. And
you know, I got real emotional when I wrote the
end on the book. Of course I had to edit
it later, but it was it was really emotional to
be able to say that, you know, these guys matter
to me, and I hope they matter to you, and
I hope everybody like that all over the place matters

(09:01):
to all of us. And that's why I wanted to
write it. And you know, it was a process to
write it. You know, I'm just a financial professional, right
to many of those guys.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
How many of those guys are still alive or were
alive when you were writing the book, so that you
could get their first hand account, like what percentage of
that team is still with us?

Speaker 6 (09:21):
I interviewed many of them back in the day, and
I would say all the team are no longer with us,
and some through alcoholism and some some through other reasons.
And I interviewed a lot of the staff at Catholic Charities.
You know, there was a very powerful lady, the queen
who ran housing at Catholic Charities, and she would just
come into a room and command it. And she was

(09:43):
the one that demanded that the team be organized and
have uniforms. And so I talked to them, and I
talked to everybody about it, and I did all those
interviews and talked to family members and you know, did
a lot of that normal research and really got to
this point where I got really a true story.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So when was the research done?

Speaker 6 (10:01):
That was done when I was a little younger, had
a little more time, you know, I remember I rented
an office for a while, and then I ran out
of money and didn't have an office. I did that
and pretended that I was writing and I couldn't do it.
But I definitely got all the research done early and
spent a lot of time on that and really got
to this point where people could read the book and

(10:24):
realize that this thing did really happen and it really
mattered to these people.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
So this has been taken up sort of mental bandwidth
for decades.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
It really has. And you know, it's one of these
things that I want to tell a story so I
could hope it could guide people like it's guided me,
you know, and how I treat people, and you know,
in anything that I've ever done in my life.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And how about that.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I mean, again, we talked about serving our troops and
you're one of the spirits behind. I mean, you're one
of the people who who you know, conducts it makes
it happen, goes over and does the actual serving. I'm
gonna guess that has a lot to do with and
got its roots started right here with this story.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know, it really did. Mean that's a great point.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
I mean, when we started serving our troops, it was,
you know, we can have a steak at mansines and
our soldiers can't, so let's.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Give them what what we we can have.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
And it was the same it was actually the same
thing is let's make sure we're thinking about people that
maybe aren't doing the same thing that we are and
make sure that they're given the getting the same things
that we are.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And that's how we started serving our troops.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
And you know, this story is different than that, but
the whole premise is really the same. It's let's let's
treat everybody the same, just.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
For a couple of moments, if you wouldn't mind. Pat
Harris again. The book is called A Season on the Drink.
You can get it literally anywhere if you're in Ireland
today and you're listening to pick.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
It up over there.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Tell us about serving our troops and and uh, you know,
what do you guys do and if it's going to
be happening again soon, and what the logistics are like
for that.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know, we're still at it. I mean, it still matters.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
We still have soldiers that are deployed overseas. We still
have more soldiers from Minnesota that will be deployed overseas.
And so you know, we're looking at another project, perhaps
in the Africa region, where we'll look to the community,
look to our partners, you know, Skinners, Mansines, the Shamrock,
Colossal Stouts and all these people and and shells. This time,
I think we might be able to bring beer at

(12:05):
our next one, which would be amazing and uh yeah
and uh, but so we're still doing it and we're
really appreciative of of you know, Chris Hockey and and
and and everybody here at k FAN who comes with
us and then does the Power Trip live, which is

(12:26):
just an amazing experience for the soldiers and really spreads
our message of of letting people know about deployments and
what they're doing. So we're still at it, and we're
still doing what we're trying to do, which is to
send a special message from home, and and and like
I said about.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
The book, it is you know, have.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Our soldiers be able to have the same thing that
we would have at home and ask why you know,
the book is definitely part of that. And we're still
going to be doing serving our troops and still you know,
excited about partnering with k fan and all our our
local partners on that and love to have you join us.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
It was life changing. When I's saucy, I mean, come on.

Speaker 9 (13:02):
Yeah, it was one of the greatest moments of my life.
It was one of the most humbly moments of my life.
And when one of the gentlemen walked up and said,
I got to have a stake with my daughter, it
was it was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, because we link up as well video chats between
the families, it's.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
It's really something to see.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
And you know, the entire time planning to go over
there the first time, you know, just wondering are we
going to be in people's way, you know, are they
going to even care for their they cared so much. Yeah,
it was just amazing. So I thank you for that, Pat,
and we're looking forward to being a part of it again.
I know Zack's been a part of it and we
should we'll do it again. You let us know how
we can help. But again, the book is A Season
on the Drink, and that's Pat Harris, he's the author.

(13:40):
And good luck and congratulations on getting this thing done
and out into the world, and I'm sure it's.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Going to change the lives. Man. Thanks so much for
having me. You got it, absolutely all right, Charnathan Grenard.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Next, Yeah, we'll do some headlines. We'll talk to Jonathan Grenard.
One final segment of The Power Tree Morning Show with
Marnie Gillner and John Bonus.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm the fan.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Oh hell yeah, Hey, if you want to copy of
the book, A Season on the Drink, I've got him
right here.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
What's the phone number? One hundred three two zero five
three six, Is that right?

Speaker 4 (14:22):
One hundred three two zero five three two six and
look at these baseball cars from nineteen eighty seven with
the gum inside it by.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
The way, Oh yeah, unopened.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
So one pack of gum and one book from Pat Harris,
A Season on the Drink that we were talking guys,
and and uh, Bonnie, maybe you you've gotten a little
bit of this, you know when I there's so much
about Saint Paul that in that community that I love, yep.
And it's I think, I just out of nowhere. It
hit me when I was talking to patri just now.

(14:52):
It's the friendship, you know, Like you go to a
bar anywhere, a lot of places and you walk into
a small town bar and they look at you like,
who in the sweet hell are you? You walk into
Barnes Saint Paul and they're like, come on, inn, what's
your name?

Speaker 8 (15:05):
You know?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And that's just how that community feels. And I love that, man.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
I just I love that Saint Paul is its own
neighborhood and Saint Paul loves itself from Saint Paul. But
they are not they're not afraid of outsiders. That is, yeah,
they are. I love My brother was We grew up
in Minneapolis and Bloomington. He ended up wanting to live
in Saint Paul because he just enjoyed the vibe so much,
I know, And.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
And he went there and he hated it so much
that he moved in. Yeah, yeah, hey, Sauce.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, speaking of your brother, did you see who's going
to be in Las Vegas on Thursday night?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Please tell me Dove?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Well, since it's not going to be Dove, it has
to be the insane clown Pass.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's correct? Are you kidding me? I see Pursday night
they playing the park.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Oh no, I can't make it because we have to
do this Vikings watch party.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
It doesn't start to like nine, he would go if
fan line, yes.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Cory, you're not invited. Oh no, the jus don't want
me there. J newsletter. What's the name of that publication?
Sauce you know? Yeah, no, Sauce, you know.

Speaker 9 (16:15):
The Juggalo's publication is uh the.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Poetry? Can I help you see poetry? You do it?
Jungle zonkers? That's terrible.

Speaker 9 (16:31):
When you were done, Corey, his new favorite word is zonkers.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I wouldn't say it's top five. Yeah, it's favorite.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Controversy over the initials game. While you were gone. You
heard about melon balla mellon baller.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
What do you feel?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I mean, Zach just can't get smooth easy.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
I think somebody said it during the game, a melon
ball is what they create, but a melon baller was
the right answer, So I would not have given it
to him. I think that's incorrect. But like I always
tell Zachary, when you are the host, you're the one
you know, jury, judge and executioner. So if Zach had
given it to him, I would have been like, yeah,
that's fine to your call.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You're the host.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
That was an uninformed jury because I still did not
know what a melon ball or melon baller was.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
So you know who needed an uninformed jury? The Melendez brothers,
well Man, Christopher. When you crawled underneath the desk after
that answer and then Perish never stood up together, freaking funny.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
That still hurts me inside. I know.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
It's always weird about this stupid show. Is you go
through the week and you're like, well, nobody listened to that,
and then you go somewhere and people are like Melendez.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Yeah, yeah, So I was telling these guys during the
break Friday was the most power trip I heard of
the week. Because my girls were shopping in Paris and
basically crushing my bank account. But they were going in
a whole bunch of was that I had noticed, and
so I brought my air pods with So I'm walking
the streets of Paris. They're spending money, and I'm listening
to the Power Trip morning shows.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I'm just cruising.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
It was the best cup of coffee walking the streets
of Paris.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
The best that sounds like fun. It was super fun.
I actually liked it.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
And you and you were talking about Chris, you mentioned
that you I think you listened to a podcast about
God damn it.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
What was it called?

Speaker 5 (18:21):
It was something like scheduled time versus what was it
called clock time versus event time? Yeah, And I couldn't
stop thinking about it because I lived that on my trip.
Because we had a flight to Amsterdam with a fifty
five minute layover, we had to haul balls. We barely
made it to the flight, and we barely made it

(18:44):
to our flight to Geneva, Switzerland, and then we had
to fly fly from Switzerland and we immediately got on
a bus.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Then we went to Annecy, France.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
My point is is the first half of this trip,
it was we have to catch this train by then,
then we have to go to this dinner and then
we like it was all scheduled the first five days
between annecy leone, and then when we got to Paris
it was all the opposite. We'd be like, all right,
we got to be at the Louver at six, but
nothing until six. So that's another reason I loved freaking Paris.

(19:16):
It was there were all the pressure of catch this train,
catch that plane, be here, be there, you have to
catch this uber by that, all of that was off
and it was back to quote event time, and it
was just we just cruised the city. Like I just said,
I just grabbed a cup of coffee and walked around
the streets of Paris listening to you idiots screw up
Melendez brothers.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
And it was an awesome day.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
And I didn't really do anything except for go to
the Louver that night and watch my.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Girls spend my money. But it was awesome.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Yeah, no pressure, no scheduling, no time, and it was
just a plus event time.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Man.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
I got to tell you, I've I've really thought about
that a lot since I read that. All right, listen
to that podcast and the whole and I know you know,
we all have things we have to do, but the
whole idea, and it's so true, Marnie, if you were
able to sit down and have lunch and not be
on a schedule, you'd taste your food.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
I've spent my life eating because I had to get
food in my belly so I didn't pass out and
then get to the next thing.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And that's just one example.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
If you can have a little part of your day
when you're just actually involved in your own life as
opposed to getting it done so you got to get
somewhere else, it just makes your day better.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
And then the name of the podcast is clock Time
versus No.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I'm sorry it was a Ted Talk. It's a Ted
Radio hour.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
And then I downloaded the guy's book and it's a
fascinating book.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I'm bringing it up right now.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
It's called Meditations for Mortals and it's by a guy
by the name of Oliver Berkman b U r k
E m A. And I'm almost done with it. Meditations
for Mortals four weeks to embrace your limitations and make
time for what counts.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
It was just interesting because it hit me right between
the eyes, because I had just experienced exactly what we
were talking about. When you were talking about I'm like, god, dang,
it's it's true because I felt that burden lift did
those last four days and obviously didn't consciously think of why.
But as soon as you say the I'm like, man,
I'm going through that right now. This is so much better.
And not have to worry what not having to watch

(21:10):
the clock.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
That's vacation. That was a vacation.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
And I loved Anesty and I loved Leone, but Paris
was next level because I didn't have to worry about anything.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Just cruising.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Good for you, man, which is why Vegas rocks, because
you just do kind of whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Vegas my way. I just do it your way. The
insane clown posse on Thursday, right like, if you do that,
that's your way. That's true. And we got to do
stuff for Dove, you know, in his memory he died.
I don't know. I hope he's resting in peace for Dove. Tonight,
if you got some fago, pour it out. Lemonade, that's

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the name of the drink. Just everybody calm down.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
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Speaker 2 (22:03):
Best, all right.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
I think we've talked about this in the past. If not,
I just want everybody to wrap their head around this.
I love this fact. This is just fascinating to me.
You guys know that the Oregon Trail started here in Minneapolis, right.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Not the actual Oregon Trail.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
But yeah, I think the actual Oregon Trail started in mine.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
They're playing the Seventh Street entry on Friday, Missouri started
the actual Oregon Trail, correct, I think so? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
But the video game creating in Minneapolis by an eighth
grade teacher in Minneapolis, Paul, your hands out.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
The Oregon Trail is a real thing, yes, Paul, if
you're kidding, right, yeah, okay, thank god.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
So check this out though, Just wrap your head around this.
For a second eighth grade teacher Minneapolis, fall of nineteen
seventy one, that's when it was created. Prince was an
eighth grade student at that school. Wow, so it's possible
one of the first people on the apparently. I don't
know if they verified this, but it's possible one of

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the first people on the planet to play Oregon Trail was.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Prince Are you interesting? Wow, that's what this says. Somebody
fact checked that.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
But if that's the case, that's pretty crazy, because isn't
it weird? There's there are things like that. I can't
picture him playing that at any age. He's so eclectic
and way out of the you know, I can't he sat.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
There and had decide how to get across the river
the same way we did. I guess, like you forget,
he's a real person. You know, he made up weird names. Yeah, right.
He and other students helped test the game.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Like died of dysentery and here that Polonia, here lies
the revolution?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Right?

Speaker 7 (23:45):
Come on, man, so red carriage, carriage raspberries would be great.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
You from dysentery. I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
In nineteen seventy six, we played that in my fifth
grade at Minneapolis Public School. And what you guys made
I forget about that is that there was no there
weren't computer monitors at that time. You didn't see the
results on like a TV screen. It was a teletype machine.
It was like it was like a typewriter plugged into

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a computer so awful. You would type in and wait
a second, and then it would automatically type back to
you what happened.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
That's crazy. Wow, But again you said that sounds horrible,
that's nuts. Moment you must have been like.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
This is the crazy match, this is cool, this is fun.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
It's like the scene and almost famous where he's describing
what a fax machine is and somebody's got one and
it takes twenty minutes per page or something.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It only takes twenty minutes a page. Yes, Wow, that's insane.
Prince played that game. Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
If you just heard the line Prince liked Oregon Show,
you'd be like, that's weird. Yeah, but if he's one
of the first one to ever play it and helped,
you know, basically workshop, But that's even crazier.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Shout out to Prince.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
And now I'm going about it like it's eighteen forty.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
All right, get it good.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Change a Prince song title to fit Oregon Trail Purple dysentery, dys.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Do it again, Do it again? Without any reference to dysentery.

Speaker 8 (25:31):
It's his go to pero, purple Rain, purple Tombstone, Purple Tombstone.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I'm playing it right now. You can still play it,
playing Purple Tombstone right now.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
No playing Oregon Trail. I'm at the general store. I've
never played it.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
We didn't never played It's fun.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
It's fun, man, I'm gonna guess because it was from
here that you guys had it.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
We never had it.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
I was real terrible at it in nineteen seventy six.
Couldn't shoot. You have to type quickly to shoot. That's
the best part.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
It was the arrows and the bear.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I think my friend Stefphanie was telling me they still
use a version of it in school for sure.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, is there an updated one something like that? I
think that's true.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
And that was the whole point is you were supposed
to learn about how difficult and daunting that trail was,
but none of us cared about the history. We just
wanted to shoot animals and try to get across the river.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's a math vers. Didn't you guys have a math
one number? That was funny?

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Odell Lake? Yeah, a lot of bangers. Oh yeah, Lake
was power four.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Do There is a version in twenty twenty one two
three and that for Xbox and PlayStation four and five
and Nintendo Switched developed by game Loft, produced by game Loft.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, was when you guys played Oregon Trail was that?
Was there any cooperative play or is it just all
on your own?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
All on your own?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Because we played a kind of a version called Wagon
Tree in eighteen forty eight, and that was a co
op in the computer lab and we were all like
playing as a class together and we got in trouble
because we started voting. We could you could actually vote
people off.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Oh my gosh, wow, terrible started kicking people.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Oh that's so that's Cyberbullyne. Yeah. Wow, Dennis got voted
off first again. Oh man, that's rough. That's Dennis, all right.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
I mentioned this earlier, but you know, I experienced this
AWS shut down out jested it because I was flying
Delta on the way back and we had a four
hours delay because of the freaking flight plan not getting downloaded.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
But if you didn't get.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
Affected, here was the list that was affected by this
AWS outage. Multiple web services shut down yesterday, including Amazon, Alexa, Ring, Reddit, Snapchat,
wordl Duel, Lingo, Roadblocks, Fortnite, coinbased, Robinhood, Venmo, Perplexity, Chat, GPT, Hinge,
United Airlines, Delta, Canva, Flicker, McDonald's, and the AP and NPR.

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So Zach, you were talking about this before the show
with me for ten seconds. I think you use the
analogy eggs in a basket, right, like you might not
want to have all your eggs.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
In a basket.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
This is maybe a good example of how many of
our services and things that we just use and take
for granted are all connected to maybe a handful of things,
and if one of those goes down, the trickle down
effect is nuts. Like, who would have thought that an
Amazon web service was connected to this many things?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
You just say, you like, that must be Amazon.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Well, if you're an idiot like me, you go, how
does that affect Delta? I had no idea when they
said it was a computer problem. I thought maybe a
computer problem with the actual plane, or maybe Delta's website
or processing. Had no idea it was connected to this
giant system. AWS goes down and I get stuck in
an airport for four hours and sucked.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
There's really only three main players in this, but Amazon
is by far the largest, and as we saw yesterday,
it is It's kind of scary because if there's somebody,
a group that can you know, hack that enough. I
mean that we're lucky it was already done by the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Is there any chance that's what happened and we don't
know it? Z echo potentially. The first time I saw it,
I was like, did somebody and they don't want to
tell us? Yeah, they would not want to tell us.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
They would It could have been a ransomware thing like
we saw with MGM a couple of years ago. Remember
everything at GM resorts for a while that was super bad.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I mean, this is that might save me. If that happens,
it just goes down.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
There's some nerds in the UK that probably have all
your info now, Chris, that's all right.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
The browsers they got some pictures. They don't want to
see it.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
All right before man, you know what Grenard started calling
Otherwise I was gonna do a toilet story. This is
gonna have to wait ten minutes with Jonathan. All right,
that's a good idea. See look at on air production medium.
We're gonna start with this. We're gonna start with Jonathan
hang out, he's gonna love this or hit it.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
We're gonna find out. Great idea Zacharen, you don't even
know where I'm going with this. We're gonna find out. Okay,
I think he is there. Hi, Jonathan, morning morning. Yeah
we got you. So look, here's the deal.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
I was just about to read a story and then
the phone rang and so we were gonna move on
and talk football. But does Zach over there was like,
well just talk about it with Jonathan. So that's what
we're gonna do. So stick tight, you're gonna you're gonna
be able to comment on this. Check this out, Jonathan,
h Are you familiar with Cohler, like the toilet company?
They make sinks and stuff. Coler just debuted a new

(30:49):
toilet camera that watches you go to the bathroom and
then uses an algorithm to analyze the results and track
your health. Yeah, Jonathan, let's talk prosy.

Speaker 10 (31:04):
The only way I can get down is it? Well, no,
I still can't. But maybe it's just like apparently thing
to kind of keep tracking when your kid goes to
the potty or kind of you know, do sometime you're
potty trying, but don't honestly don't see the sport.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
But I mean, it's if it's analyzing your health, if
it's somehow figuring out while you are mate you have
some kind of an indicator for some serious disease.

Speaker 10 (31:28):
Sure maybe yeah, if they're testing out the urin or
whatever people, maybe they're trying to eliminate one. Lets visit.
I don't know if that's the case. All right, maybe
I can get mine. But still, bro I think, yeah,
I think I'm good at regulating my own stuff.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
When John I mentioned this last week, I didn't realize
that it was something that the Vikings bring with you.
But when after the game they're in the locker room,
I go to the restroom before we get on the
buses on them to have to you know, hold it
for thirteen hours and the little thing that tells you
whether or not you're the high to buy your pee.
That's fascinating. I didn't know you guys brought that along
with you ever where you went.

Speaker 10 (32:04):
Yeah. I mean, I'm glad I don't have to carry
that in my backpack. But you know, one of the
things that I've grown to actually, you know, learn and
like it just because you know, it is a good
thing to kind of keep track of, like a hydration
because sometimes you can like drink two bottles or some
drink enoughs, but then you go to that thing that's
like the moment of truth. So yeah, I mean that
it definitely helps out. But maybe, like I said, that's

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the only thing I could be going inside my toilet.
Maybe ever, but the last thing is definitely going to
be a camera.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's you don't want to grab a Microsoft surface and analyze.

Speaker 10 (32:36):
Your listen, I don't. I don't need anything with all
these data leagues and all this stuff. I don't need
anything going out the type of way that I don't
I'm not comfortable with.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah, according to this, it just scans its like it
looks down into the toilet, so it would well, they
claim at least that it would not exactly videotape.

Speaker 8 (32:57):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Hack right correct.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
They tilt the camera just slightly up and somebody's paying
for that.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
You know that'll be next. You have to be accepting
cookies and all line and stuff like that. You know that.
I'm good cop. I love the idea, but I'll be
out of that. But you're still looking for any type
of you know, sameless plug. You know my way, I'm
definitely out of here.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
We go.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
It's a six hundred dollars toilet Cam, Yeah, no, thanks,
all right, moving on.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Jonathan, you play it's a short week.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
You guys just played Philadelphia a couple of days ago,
but you're going to Los Angeles tomorrow and playing the
Chargers on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Short week.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Uh. We can probably ask you this question every year,
but just in general, what do you think of Thursday
night games? The pros and cons of of the short
week coming off the lost to Philly.

Speaker 10 (33:47):
I mean me personally, the short weeks don't really kind
of like bother us too much. I think they do
a good job taking care of us, just because it's
like you're already in the swing of playing ball. Your
body kind of didn't really shut all the way down
from the last game, so you just try to just
keep it moving. It's kind of like you said, a
short week. So you know, obviously only I guess some
much challenges often traveling across the country a little bit.

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But at the same time, it's still, you know, the
same logistical plan that I believe that you know, they
set us up for success every time, is within our organization.
So you know, me personally, I like it, so it
it's it's a prop.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
For me, all right.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
So Jonathan, stay with me for a second. You know
our friend Ben Maller, Chris and and so no Ben Miller.
Oh yeah, Ben Maller does a show before us by
like an hour.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And he said something that I never thought of.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
He said that the you know, a couple of years ago,
we heard a whole bunch of people complaining about Thursday
night games, that the lineup wasn't very good, the schedule
wasn't very good, that that at some point we got
to get these Thursday night games to be better or
Amazon's going to be really pissed. But he also said,
and this sounded very conspiracy theory, and I want to
know if you are able to comment on this. He

(34:51):
said he's convinced that the NFL players were behind the
scenes told to stop complaining about Thursday nights because he's like,
they've just the players have gone quiet the last couple
of years about the short week.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
How you just said it doesn't really affect you that much?

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Is that even something that happens, Like do you guys
get you know, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?
Like memos call the principal's office exactly like a memo
going like hey cool, if you guys are not fans
of Thursday Night? Could you please stop complaining to the
media about Thursday Nights? Is that something that actually happens.

Speaker 10 (35:23):
Look, to my knowledge, absolutely not. You know, I'll be transparent.
I have not got that message yet. Honestly. It's kind
of and the kind of boys on too when people
ask me about certain things, you know, the London game
and things of that sort, like it's it's cool, but
at the end of the day, like we still got
to go out there and perform. So like I think
it's more of a yeah, you can complain and the
listening at the same time, but it's like what is

(35:43):
going to happen. What can they do immediately that's going
to change anything, So you kind of like expressing any
type of like concern, like at least right now during
the season, it's never going to least anything good. But
you know, possibly a fine just because you're criticizing the
X y Z. But yeah, I don't know all the
conspiracy theories. I mean, it may seem like a lot
of these things happening based off of like what you know.

(36:04):
You know, I had a guy tell me one time
they thought it was a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory just
based off of how we play or play happened. If
somebody done, I listen, If you truly think that we're
out there trying to have some type of conspiracy when
God's running full speed of us, please rethink again. So,
uh yeah, I don't know about that's answer. That's a
long win it answer. I have heard that.

Speaker 9 (36:22):
Hey, Jonathan, the Chargers offensive line is not what they
started with. Their number one left tackle, Rashaan Slater is out.
He was out in preseason. Then they moved Joe All
to left tackle. He's now out. Their backups at both
tackle positions are questionable. How do you guys attack and
look forward to maybe a banged up offensive line?

Speaker 10 (36:46):
As we know, we can't take anyone for granted at
this point, whether they're a starter, first, the first time starter,
whatever rookie case me. We give everybody the same respect
just because that's what happens. That's when bad things happen
when you go in there underestimate your opponent. But we
do use it as an opportunity to try to, you know,
execute ourselves to the way that we want to. You know,
we we have an attacking the scheme and we want

(37:08):
to continue to try to do, you know, and having
newer guys in there, it can kind of be a
little difficult for their communication. But you know, it's a
matter we're just going to not switch our things up
and just going there and go even harder than we
will before, just because it's an opportunity where we should
have these advantages on. But that end. As we know
in the league, everybody gets paid in this any given

(37:28):
Sunday and Thursday in this case. But I like ourselves
to go out there and then try to get back
on track.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
To kind of go back to one question here. I
was just reading an article about dra green Law, Broncos
linebacker getting I believe he got suspended for a game
for basically being what they call abusive and threatening or
insulting language towards an official. Obviously, some things happened last
week with the officials we weren't happy about. It happens
every game. Do you have to like monitor yourself or

(37:56):
do you go into each game knowing which referees you
can maybe talk to a little bit more than others.

Speaker 10 (38:03):
Well, we know which referees, Uh, we know which referees
we're going to get at top of the week, we're
not in some day at the end of the week
kind of once we have our team meeting and we
know the officials the white hat that we're gonna get
every week in their whole crew. So yeah, you kind
of get you know, me being my six ten in
the league, I've kind of dealt with pretty much every
set of referees that we have in the league. Now,
you know, like you say, some a little more lenient
than others, others. You know, we're gonna let the TV

(38:27):
and the TV copies do they're talking and obviously y'all
see this stuff is going on to but yeah, I mean,
as we all know, you can't say anything about them.
Uh they they literally can do whatever they want and
we just have to go with the flow. They know,
they make some tough calls and bad cause refereeing, and
the NFL come around and you know, change those things.
You seel as the reports later on and say hey,
that should have been X, y Z, whatever the case

(38:48):
may be. But I think that's the part is a
little unfair, the fact that you know, we can't be
human and express us so as already in a high
intensity game, our most is a high you know, we
want everybody wants to win. So the fact that they
kind of monitored in this and so it being personal,
it's kind of like that's the that's where the issue
kind of lies. And I don't think Dre at all
was you know, ever going to hit the referee or

(39:08):
ever gonna do something to the guy. He just I
feel like when I watched the video that he was
just saying, listen, he almost gave him the game, and
the fact that they wanted you know, he kind of
you kind of can get beside yourself a little bit
that instance, and I think we all been there or
wanted to be there in a sense. But yeah, I mean,
at the end of the day, he did basically what
a lot of guys want to do is say something
to the referees because we start, they get no ramifications

(39:29):
or any any any issues at all when they but
they have a quote unquote bad call. Then New York
comes in and saves them, so you know, it's it's
a lot of things that go into it. I'm pretty
sure if he would do it again, he probably would,
just because it's that type of game and a lot
of things are at state, so for them to kind
of take it in that type of perspective, I mean, uh,
based off of what history says, I see why he

(39:50):
would get fined just because that's when you say anything
about him is gonna happen. But to the players on
our side, we definitely know that we know that he
wasn't gonna do anything crazy. We've all been there and
said some things to the rest and this and that
fact that referee wanted to take it personally, making it
about him, and now that he's gotten fine, that's just
the result you get. So we're gonna steady, keep trying
to fight it steady, try to do our things on

(40:11):
the field, but obviously when it comes to that aspect
and all season we'll try to handle that as best
as possible just so they we can get some accountability
and consistency and when it comes to the referees.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
And their calls.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Jonathan Grenard joins us here Tuesday mornings on the Power Trip.
Nard Dog.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
The Eagles on.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Sunday went ahead and tried a toush push at one
point in the game play that they have perfected, made famous,
et cetera, et cetera. We saw something from your defense
that we haven't seen before and Tyler Battie essentially just
flat out dead man laid down and it was brilliant

(40:51):
and genius. Can you kind of take us through the
week of learning about this strategy how it hit you,
maybe like it hit some of us as fans, going,
oh my god, how did nobody think of that? That
is genius? And the execution of that play.

Speaker 10 (41:08):
Yeah, that was all the coaches stuff. Man. They literally
came to us with the plane liter top, like, listen,
we got a plan for it, and they put it
on the board and we kind of all were kind
of like to laugh a little and kind of like
what in the world. But when you think about it,
you know, when we got there and actually you know,
practiced it, it made sense just because you know, it's
a low man's game. You know, when you're on the
ground and you got all fours, you know, as the

(41:28):
offensive team, when you see them in that position, you
can't get any lower than that's somebody on the ground.
So it's like you can try to move them out
the way, I guess, try to scrape them across the
turf by driving your legs, but it doesn't work when
you've got somebody else pushing on top of them to
a person that's laying flat on the ground. So I
think personally, I think the plan it was was pretty cool.

(41:50):
It may look crazy, but I think it works. I
think we may have given some people some type of
idea in a sense, and me personally, I know that.
Not personally we know that was the stop that he
wasn't near, not see what he didn't get the first
down that and everybody knows that, so we we kind
of gave everybody somewhat of a recipe to stop it.
But uh, it's definitely a good play for them, for sure.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Jonathan, thanks is always man. Good luck against the charges.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Two nights from.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Now, John Grenna heard of the Minnesota vikings.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
As I just got a text from somebody. How many
morning shows would talk to the pro player about poopy.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
That morning necessarily poop brand it was health related. We're
worried about his health. Well, Dan your manner man.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
I didn't want to get too into the weeds about
peeing and the thing about hydration, but a the amount
of pride I take in being dehydrated. Being hydrated is unbelievable,
and and and and being able to aim at that thing.
It just makes being a pure pleasure.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, gamify, it does. It's like a it's like a
whack them molething.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I thought he brought up a good point though. Who
has to carry that in their back back?

Speaker 10 (43:00):
Ye?

Speaker 9 (43:00):
Yes, I think Tommy volunteers either on the Oregon Trails
in his carry on.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
All right, last one. This is a really quick headline,
but you just can't make this up. You guys remember
the show New Heart?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh yeah, which one?

Speaker 5 (43:14):
The actual show New Heart, not the Bob Newhart show,
just on that ran from eighty two to ninety and
then it was the whole dream that I was born
in nineteen eighty, So I don't remember New Heart outside
of one line that they said almost every episode, which was,
this is.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
My brother Daryl.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
This is my other brother Darryl. And you're like, that's
the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That can't be two Darryl's.
Here's the final headline of the show for Tuesday, October
twenty first of twenty twenty five. A guy in Kentucky
is accused of shooting and killing his older other brother.
The guy that killed his brother is named Darryl d
A R R E L. He killed his brother Darryl

(43:56):
d A r R y L Wow.

Speaker 9 (43:59):
So Daryl, there can be only one and his other
brother Darryl to Darrow o' darryl.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Only Daryl spelled differently, and one Darryl killed the other.
Daryl is my brother Darryl, and this is my other brother.
Daryl is his last name.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Melnda's well, come on feeling so good, Martins.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
We're gonna miss you on Friday, no morning, and.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Your ticket hit that max bet for me, Fellas, we.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Will get that if you take a rundown, would you go?

Speaker 3 (44:35):
I'm gonna play a volleyball game on Thursday night, so
I've got.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Just a lot.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Stay healthy, congrats it's Chasca and well he's not playing.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Stay golden pony boy. I'll think of you all right.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
We'll see it all week, Mars. Johnny Bowens thinks for
the time Man Twins Daily dot.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
Comas right, we'll see you Thursday in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
We're back tomorrow five thirty nine. Nine June is next.

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