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don't know what that's not. I'mgonna tell you right now. I'll give
you a gut shot. Sorry tooffend you. So yesterday, Zacho,
you talked with Bill Maher. We'reabout to play that interview. But Bill
Maher, thee Bill Maher, BillBill from real who's the boss? That's
him? No? And of livedifferent different stroke. What did you ask

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him about? All sorts of funstuff? Mostly is that right? Because
he's a big proponent, was verygood. I asked him about weed he
owns that bit in California Woody Heroes. Yeah, he was delivering weed.
I'll talk about it. But hewas talking about delivering weed with Woody Harrelson.
May I ask you a question aboutit before we even start the Why
did he want to be on theradio with you? Ah? He is

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going to be playing the Mystic Showroomon Sunday night Mystic Lake dot com.
You get your tickets so he willbe doing his his comedy stylings and I'm
looking forward to uh to checking itout. Because uh, I'm an I
have not seen a stand up yet, so it's outstanding. Can have you

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ever seen the movie Religious? It'sgreat. You should watch it. It's
very religious. It's very good,very very good. Can't wait. Yeah,
very good. You should watch that. And uh good, Well,
I'm glad to hear that it wentwell. Did you piss him off anyway?
Do you say anything that? No? I don't think so that's great.
I hope I didn't. They gotit's very political, so you know
that's not your thing. Sorry,But how do you guys feel about podcast

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previews? Like if you listen toDana Carvey and David Spade, Yeah,
they do this all the time,right, They do four or five minutes
where it's we're about to talk toKevin Nelon, and Kevin Nelon says this,
and he talks about They basically giveyou the bullet points of the interview
you're about to hear, which iswhat we're kind of doing now. Yeah,
And obviously you have the other oneslike a smart List, where they

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fuck around for five minutes and thendo the the ramp up teas were whoever
books it the other two have totry to figure out who the guest is,
Yeah, I definitely don't love thepreview bid, which is what we're
doing. But you know what I'msaying, wat Yeah, quick thing here

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if we want to not talk aboutthe interview we're about what does that mean?
So I you have a thing?Yeah, So I was in that
was messing around chat gpt there duringin the box and uh, I wrote
write a show theme for the PowerTrip Morning Show in the style of the
Fresh Prince of bel Air rights andkind it kind of there's a kind of

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slaps, it's it's all right,it's here at sweet slot. So now
this is a story all about howthe Power Trip Morning Show turns your mornings
around. And I'd like to takea minute just sit right there to tell
you how this crew became morning showplayers players, Yeah, and Minneapolis born
and raised on the radio where theyspent most of their day. He is

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chilling out, Max and relaxing allcool, entertaining the listeners and breaking the
rules. This is just the samething. Okay, how about this h
where is it? When a coupleof guys were up to no good started
making trouble in their neighborhood, theygot in one little fight and their boss
got scared. He said, you'removing to mornings now being prepared. That's

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kind of true, right, No, no, but I like it.
It's clever. This is where itwas weird. Um. They laughed and
joked, they played their games withflair, and they shoted to the audience
We're glad you're here. How didyou say that? Looked at their kingdom.
They were finally there to sit onthe morning show thrown as the hosts

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of the air Morning Show thrown.I can tell you this, man,
I don't know if it's a goodpoem or not, but it makes me
want to poop. We're glad you'rehere. I thought you stood something was
weird about that. Just you didn'tdo this in two thousand. Yeah,
that's crazy. Anyway. It mayhave just been a coincidence that Chris says
that in chat Gypts that our listenersare glad that they're here. But it
might not have been. Maybe it'sworld famous. Maybe people all over the

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planet know about it. I'm gonnaWe're glad you're here t shirt. Yeah.
Man, I wonder if Bill Maher'speople listen to this first five minutes
and go, why did we agreeto be on this so much. People
don't give us. You don't thinkthey give a shit. Why don't they
care? You don't think they doa good All they want is for us
to sell a few tickets. Man, a good point. That's what they
want, for us to do sometickets. Let's ticket. I'm a huge

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fan of Bill Mark. It soundslike you are. Yeah, me too,
that's fun. It was weird manto for about forty seconds of this.
I think they tricked you. Ithought it was Ryan. Oh really
yep, yep. Actually wouldn't youcould have gotten me. I thought it
was, especially since the way likebecause it was the way it was set
up was he's gonna call this studioat three thirty, So that's all I

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had, And that could have beendid you call on time five minutes later?
That's close enough, that's ga.He's probably on with some other radio
goofball. Yeah, who was wastinghis talent? Zat even waste his time?
You know, we're wasting the timeof listeners who are trying to listen
to you interview Bill Maher Right,should we get to it? Have we

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gone the appropriate amount of times?I have a lot of hair pants,
Yeah, you have a lot ofpair of pants. Yeah, like jeans,
yea, like three ship. Iown one pair of jean and I
have like two pairs of pants thatthe zipper comes down all the time because
and so I never remember which onesthey are. And this is one of

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the pairs of them. I'm sorry. When I finished the day wearing these
pants, I'm going to tear themup and throw them in the in the
trash. Fantastic, like like fivetimes today I'll be walking around on my
balls, will be hanging out ofmy pants, and this time it'll be
an accident. Well, maybe youget us a pants endorsement, because there's
a salesperson who's peeking through the windowlooking at us, like, what are
they doing to guy about that?I don't know. We're doing a pot

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tell you about it. I tellyou. I gotta go meet with some
clients. Here's Bill Maher with ZachoZo. Good job. Bill Maher will
be playing the Stick Showroom on Sundaynight, eight o'clock. Starting your tickets
at Mystic Lake dot com and Billjoins us now on the Power Trip after
party. Bill, thank you somuch for your time. How are things

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out and I'm assuming California? Correct? Yes? They're pretty good. I
was at the Laker game the otherday. I got to see that Game
six where they won over the Warriors. So I'm trying to make the best
of my forced time off. Ofcourse, we have a strike going on
out here, so I have beenforced to be unemployed this month. Well,

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it's it's nice to hear about playoffspast the first round here. We
don't hear that a lot out inMinnesota, So enjoy it out there.
One thing I'm excited about. Ithink this might be a perfect week for
you to come here because you couldbe capping off a pretty historic week in
Minnesota. I believe we're very closeto Governor Walls signing a bill that will

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legalize recreational marijuana here in the greatstate of Minnesota. I know you've been
kind of on the forefront of thismovement a little bit. What is your
reaction to now, I mean,we're getting close to basically half the country
having a legal weed in their state. Well, of course, I think
it's great. It's funny you mentionedthat because yesterday I was hanging out with

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my friend Woody Harrelson, and heowns a pot store out here called The
Woods, which I am a minorityare in and we were delivering some of
the pot yesterday as kind of apublicity stunt to show people that when you
order from the woods, you neverknow who's going to show up with your
bag of weed at the door.But just the idea, we were saying

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to each other, just the ideathat you can order pot, you know.
I mean, we're both over sixtynow. We remember the bad old
days. I remember what Woody wasarrested for. Like I think he planted
like a hemp seed somewhere and youknow, as a stunt and got arrested
for it. And the and Iremember going through airports so much of my

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life sweating, you know. AndI would take like the littlest bit of
pot and put it in a ballof Kleenex and hide it under my nuts,
just sweating that the dogs would notsniff it, and I'd be thrown
out a line and put in GuantanamoBay. And now I can deliver pot,
I can own a pot store.I can smoke it like freely on

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my podcast Club Random every week andblow smoke right in the face of the
camera. I mean, things havechanged a lot. And for the people
who take despair about how sometimes thiscountry looks like it's moving backwards, and
sometimes it does, as we recentlysaw with losing the right to have an

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abortion in a lot of states.Yes it does look like sometimes we're taking
three steps forward and four step back. But also just take solace in the
idea that on a lot of issues. Gay marriage is another one. You
know, gay marriage lost on theballot thirty five times in every state.
It was put on for years andyears and years, and like four years

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later it was the law of theland. So look, we're always late.
Everybody's laid on everything. Obama waslaid on gay marriage, and JFK
was laid on civil rights, andLincoln was laid on slavery. That's human
nature. But things do change.And when I traveled the country now,
it's funny. When I used totravel I would look up what states is

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it legal? What states just haveit medical? And okay, I can
do this, I can do this. Now I don't even look because you
know what, if anybody ever arrestedme in any state in this country,
my attitude is, Okay, you'rethe one who's going to be embarrassed,
because it's just not where the countryis. Yeah, you mentioned that your
podcast Club Random, and I justthink it's a great exposition, if you

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will, of just how harmless itis. Because these people have made Marijuanato
this big villain. And when youwatch your podcast, you guys, just
you and your guest, you knowa lot of times your guest partakes as
well, and it just looks likea decent chill time, which is really
what that side has been saying forthe longest time. It isn't this big,

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huge monster. It's just a wayto feel better for a little while,
right, I mean it never was. I mean we always try to
make the same old arguments. It'sso much less harmful than liquor. It's
not really the gateway drug. Thegateway drug is always beer. We don't
need to study it anymore. Itjust makes you eat cookie dough. I
mean, all these things we triedfor years and years and years. And

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of course there are still people whoare not on the page. And I'm
looking at you, Joe Biden,because I was just saying how everybody's late
on everything. Well, Joe Bidenis late on this one, very late,
and I think it's probably because hisne'er do well drug addict son Hunter.
Biden was someone who was trapped inthe terrible things that happened, which

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sometimes when you become a drug addict. And he probably thinks it's because marijuana
was how he started down that road. But it really has nothing to do
with marijuana, Joe, And youshould really get on the page because you're
way behind, especially for someone whonever turns down a progressive thought on anything.

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Whatever they come to him with transwhatever, he's all on the page,
but somehow with marijuana, he's terrible. He he's not for even decriminalizing.
Yeah. I want to talk aboutthis too, because you've been now
on television for almost three decades now, between Politically and Correct and now Real

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Time, and it's such a uniqueshow and I think more more important show
than ever to have because while youare obviously left leaning liberal, but you
are able to you know, seeit clearly and call out your your own
side for certain issues. And that'svery, very unique in a media landscape

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now that it's just more and morepartisan, more and more echo chamber say
whatever the audience wants to hear,basically, and you don't really seem to
care what the audience wants to hearyou want to say what you want to
say when you you know, whenyou go in for a show like Real
Time or Club Random, whatever,do you your relationship with your audience seems

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to be some of the most uniqueof any show of any platform out there,
because you really seem to keep themon you on their toes. Well,
I hope so. I mean,I certainly have paid the price for
that along the way sometimes because you'reright, I'm not going to let the
audience dictate what I think. ButI think that is the bond and always

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has been with my audience over thosethree decades, is that they respect that
politically incorrect. First one on theair, they told me, you know,
you really can't do a s likethis is because you're a host,
and when you're a host, youdon't want to alienate half the crowd.
And I said, well, butin real life, people sometimes don't agree
with each other politically and they stillcan be friends. No one, no

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one thinks that's a deal breaker.Let's see if it works on television.
And yeah, it does work ontelevision. And I think recently because we
seem to have gone through a kindof a transformation in this country where liberalism
kind of divided into old school liberalsand then, well, I guess what
we would call the woke woke,which I certainly didn't have a problem with

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at the beginning when it was justmeant alert to injustice, but then it
morphed into something that in many waysbecame kind of ridiculous, and it very
often became the opposite of old schoolliberalism. I mean, liberalism is about
lifting people up, and wokeism isvery often about just catching people at doing

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something petty. And liberalism was alwaysabout defending free speech, and the woke
people don't even want to hear aboutfree speech because it might interfere with their
feelings or give them anxiety. SoI'm defending something that I always believed that
I haven't changed. My politics haven'tchanged at all, but the politics around

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me have. So I think inthe last few years, yes lost some
audience that were the woke people.They kind of left the building. If
I don't just completely agree with everythingthat they now sign on too, I'm
out. And that's fine because Igained I think a bigger section of people
who I would call common sense people. And when people ask me, you

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know, why do you make funof the left more because you're more ridiculous
than you used to be. Ididn't used to have the material. I'm
a comedian. I go where thefunny is. And you people very often
you don't want to text things.You just want to rename them. I
remember when I used to do theshow. Do you remember Comic Relief?
Yeah? Okay, Comic Relief itwas. It was to help the homeless

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and Billy Crystal, Whoopi Goldberg RobinWilliams hosted it. Okay, you can't
even say homeless anymore. We gavethat name to them because we didn't want
people calling them bums or vagrants orhoboes. But now it's got to be
people experiencing homeless. What's next,wonderful, well meaning person who fun full

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to their own is taking a dumpon my driveway? You know, it's
experiencing homelet That doesn't solve the problem. They're still experiencing it on the sidewalk.
So that kind of stuff, youknow, renaming everything instead of just
fixing it. Words you can't saya college has now come up with all

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these lists, like you can't saymaster bedroom, or you know white paper
or you guys, you guys nocan do is on their list insane.
You're not supposed to say insane,which is bad enough. They took away
the R word, which is soneeded in this country because this country is

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so are virgin you can't say?But I guess those are people experiencing,
not getting laid. I don't know, but there's plenty of material here on
the that there didn't used to be, so if you ask me why I'm
doing it, And also most ofmy stuff is still making fun of the
Republicans and especially Trump, who's verymuch back on the scene. Did you

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see his town hall the other day? Yeah? Yeah, And obviously people
going after CNN for quote unquote platforminghim. But on the other hand,
where do you stand on that?Do you want his words to show him
how ridiculous he is or would yourather them not give him the spotlight?
It's a ridiculous argument. He's thefront runner for the Republican nomination of the

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press. Okay, there were anews organization, you're not going to give
a platform to the person who halfthe country wants to be president who was
the president. Of course, that'snot platforming, that's doing your job as
a news organization. And I thoughtthey did a tremendous public service by putting
him on. Because I watched thatwhole thing, I got to say this

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for Donald Trump. I mean,there's few people who have been meet or
harder on Donald Trump than me.I also was the one guy who for
years was saying he's never going toleave, even if he loses the election,
He's going to try to stay,and that turned out to be true.
I have a long, long,long list of things of horrible things
he says about me. He doesit all the time. He said it
last week. I'm a crazy person, I'm a waco, I'm a nut

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job. I'm a low rating sleevesbag. It rolls off his tongue.
So we are not friends. ButI gotta tell you, this guy is
probably the best instinctive politician I haveever seen in my life. And I
do mean think because he doesn't thinkhe's crazy. He's both stupid and crazy.
Doesn't matter as a politician. Hehad that crowd eating out of his

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hand. They loved him and whenshe and Caitlin Collins is very talented,
she did as good a job asyou can do. Every time she tried
to trap him or corner him.It was just he brushed her off.
He just rolled over her. Andagain not her fault. She did as

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good as you can do. Heis just a hard guy to defeat in
that arena. And it's good thatpeople saw that. It's very good because
this guy very easily could win thenext election. Great, and you've obviously
been pretty gone in those predictions thatI know, you know years ago,
where people were mocking the idea ofa Trump presidency or mocking the idea of

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a Trump holdout and not leaving officewhen he was voted out. You've sort
of been on the ball and I'vepeople just continue not to listen to you.
Oh absolutely, they never will,and that's okay. That's all you
can do is put it out inthe water, and then you know,
what often happens is that other peoplepick it up and somebody else says it's

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somebody who's a little more shall wesay, mainstream, and then they'll listen
to it there. So, youknow, if that's the service I do,
I'm thrilled, and I hope thatpeople understand that Donald Trump is not
over. He's just this is justan interrectum possibly between his his his two

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presidential terms, and you know thatthis has to be addressed now, you
know it's there's no other way it'sgoing to happen. When I have dinner
with my friends, they always saythat, you know, maybe Trump,
maybe he'll die. Okay, that'snot a plan that. First of all,
he's not going to die. He'snever going to die. He's a
city roach that the worst he eatsand lives, the stronger he gets.

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I mean, Joe Biden, look, I love Joe, and he is,
you know, eighty, and Ithink he's a good eighty. I
think he's not what they say.He's definitely not senile, he's not frail.
He's just a normal eighty. ButTrump is only like four years younger,
and there's just nothing about him thatlooks that age. I mean,

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he doesn't look like a young man, but he just has a robustness about
him. I don't I don't understandit. He lives on ketchup and burnt
steak and meat loaf, and youknow, he just got the worst diet,
the way never exercises. He's fat, He's doesn't matter, it's just
something in his DNA. I thinkhis father lived to be a hundred or

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something. That's not a plan.He's not going to die. And as
horrible as anybody is that that shouldn'tbe planned to wish someone to die.
No, we have to. Theydid the is it with Ruth Bader Ginsburg?
Maybe she'll live forever? Okay,she didn't live forever. He's not
going to die. Get a betterplan, Get a better plan. Indeed,

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Bill, thank you so much foryour time. I cannot wait to
see you Sunday. I've been abig fan of the TV show, on
the podcast and everything. I've notsenior stand up comedy in person yet.
For those who are are interested andmaybe are in the same boat, they
haven't they have seen your show,they haven't seen you live. What can
we all expect Sunday night at MysticLake. Oh, you can expect to

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laugh your ass off. I meanthat's the point of stand up comedy,
you know. Stand up comedy ispure. The show I do on HBO,
It's a comedy show for sure,that uses the headlines and what's going
on in the news as our fodder, of course, but it varies between
funny and serious. Now, thesubjects I talk about in my stand up

(22:52):
show are pretty much similar to whatI talk about on the show, although
I do a lot more stuff aboutmy personal life and sex and romance and
stuff like that, movies, drugs, rock and roll, you know.
So it is a lot more varied. It's a ninety minute show. But
you know, I don't I'm notnever interested in talking about trivial things.

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Some comics or geniuses at that theycan talk about the trivial. I like
to talk about things that matter,that are kind of weighty but makes them
very funny. When you do standup comedy, people expect to laugh their
ass off every fifteen seconds. Theywant to be having a belly laugh.
That's what stand up comedy is.That's what's so different about that from doing

(23:37):
a television show. You couldn't dothat for an hour every week, but
I can do that for ninety minutesfor you when I come to Mystic Lake
Awesome Sunday, May twenty first again. Tickets at Mystic Lake dot com.
Bill Maher, thank you so muchfor your time. Have a great week,
and we'll see you Sunday. Yesyou will. Hey, thanks for
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