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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Saturday street takeover happened in this intersection right behind me
of Wakely and Franklin. Now, while it's quiet now, what
neighbor says, those events do bring fear to the area.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's a very chaotic and hectic situation that had also
can find himself and especially when he's there first by himself.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
This is some of what an Ansonia police officer faced
upon arrival to Wakeley Avenue and Franklin Street on Saturday,
April twenty sixth at about twelve thirty am.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Never happened with thing delight that absolutely when we look
on the window, because you had a commotion. When we
look on the window, there was a lot of people
who run it back at full up, back and fold.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Police were called out to respond to fireworks and a
possible street takeover in the area.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
So what I'm seeing now as far as the street
takeover and Sonia's concerned Saturday night and it's midnight. It's
a residential neighborhood, it's a nice area in the valley,
is yeah, fireworks you're going off for kids, just in
the kid young man. I want to make of them.
When the squad car rolls up, they continue going about
their business, jumping up and down they go buy the
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cop car. To the hood of the car. One kid
grabs an orange cone and whips the orange cone you
see it on the dashcam footage, and he just smashes
the window of the police vehicle. And I saying, kid,
probably thirty five years old, have no way of known.
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It's a street take It's the taking over of a
taxpayer funded suburban street. It's the taking over of it.
And when law enforcement shows up, they do nothing nothing.
No guns discharged into the ear, no rubber bullets, do
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those work. Nothing. This cop rolled up and just got
completely disrespected. Did nothing even here. I need you all
these kids, should these men should have all just been
clubbed in that street like baby seals. It's absurd. We
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pay for our homes to live on these streets to
just get this. Yeah, well, what was I gonna do
with it? Was that takeover? You know when people take
over your street. And they were just setting off fireworks.
They had destroyed the one squad car that did roll up.
When is lamonk gonna ever talk about some of you
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and be like, yeah, we're turning things around here now.
Now I'm embolding the police to crack some skulls man,
when I mean that's got that's the only way out.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Police say, there was a group of fifty to one
hundred people, but.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
One hundred people on your street on a Saturday night
towards him.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
One of the people in the street takeover, jumped on
the hood of the car. Are all street attempted to
back away?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Jump down the hood of the squad car? Why did
you back away when you gun it? What's the point
of view? Even? What did you go there for? You
were mocked? Somebody? Is that the protocol? I need somebody
in law enforcement to tell me. Is that the protocol?
You roll up on a suburban street in Ansnia, Connecticut,
put it wherever and fireworks ago. They've taken up, They've
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blocked off the street. My daughter could be tried to
get daughters are trying to get home on these streets.
They're jumping on the hood squad car. I can't imagine
what they do to a young girl in a car alo.
I can't imagine there. But let's let ned Lamont enable
us all to find out. Why did you show? Why
was your response to he started jumping up and down
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on the hood of a squad car. Why was your response,
I'm going to put it in reverse and back out
of here. Why wasn't it aggression? Why wasn't it getting
out of the car brandishing your weapon. Let's go to
the phones right now, start.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
At the top place you're aware. But lamon designated authority
to pick judges and prosecutors for the ACOU. So what
does that tell.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You that he's a failure as a leader and doesn't
care about this state?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
The problem is in the courts, as is in many
blue cities and states. Uh, there's no punishment, there's no accountability. Now,
shooting someone in the butt is TV. There's something called
post police Officer standards training. You can't exercise deadly physical
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force unless you're an immediate threat of death or serious
physical injury, or the same to the third person.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
All right, so now hold up, So when you when
you were uniformed, which I know they were going back
of it, but when you were uniformed, somebody is a
street takeover, You pull up in your squad car, somebody
starts jumping up and down on the hood of your car.
What do you do? What would you have done?
Speaker 5 (05:01):
They wouldn't have done that.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Right, But what what would you have done what would
you have been empowered to do?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Finish? Let me finish. They wouldn't have done that because
they knew what would becoming and they got it. And
they got to remember too, there were no cameras there.
Now there's no good version of some cop wielding justified
a physical force, never mind unjustice. There's no good version
of it. And people are gassed when they see police
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exercise force, not even necessarily deadly physical.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Do you agree with them? Do you agree with the
officer putting the car in reverse and slowly back it like,
I don't even know why the cop showed up if
he was going to do nothing.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, there should have been a mutual aid call if
Sonya had insufficient personnel. But yeah he once he saw that.
The police department should have had more than one cop
respond to something like that. They should know better. Yeah,
and and even two guys. It's going to be difficult
to handle the crowd. Now, once you engage, you've got
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to engage. But the but the bottom line is you've
got dash cam, you've got body cam, and uh, it's
you're there in a between a rock and a hard pace.
And I'm not saying they're not justified, but you can't
expect them to do what they're supposed to do when
they're not backed not only by the courts, but in
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many cases by management.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah uh uh. What about tear gas in a situation.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Like this, Well, you talked about tear gas, and you
mentioned rubber bullets and being backs. Those are all right here,
and the average patrol car doesn't carry that equally.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Even though this clear, I mean, and they would probably
designate a street takeover. They would say that was that
wasn't a ride or street takeover. There there's a distinction.
To me, there's no To me, there's no distinction, But
a judge would probably deem there there's a distinction.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
I drove by a takeover a dusk yesterday in North
han uh. And I don't know exactly what happened. I
shouldn't say that. It was in the afternoon, believe it
or not, on the side a street that doesn't have
the the bumps in the road they managed to find
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and it was a large, large, large crowd, and in
fact it was closer to New Haven Line and I
only saw one cop. Uh. So again then this is
we we've let it get out of control not just
the crowd, but the response to the crowd. And they
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don't have they don't live by the same set of rules,
and so they're going to push as far as they
can and they know that they've been able to get
away with more. And trust me when I tell you
this stuff for the most part, didn't happen twenty years ago,
just didn't happen because they knew I'm living a ride.
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They knew they would get a right to the emergency
group before booking.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, that's the difference the top online too. Right now,
if we can welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Hey, how you doing. I'm falling about the Sonia car situation.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
With the police ahead.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
No, So you know, I teach at a big district
in Connecticut, and those those masks and everything that the
people that were jumping on the car was wearing, that's
the uniform of the day of for a lot of
these students. They walk around the hallways with those masks on.
They hold cell phones like if their guns to their
friends' faces in the in the hallway.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
What they were doing about.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
These Yeah, and they laugh about these takeovers all the time.
These students in these schools that they're mostly like seniors probably,
and they brag about it, they laugh about it. They
wear those ski mask ninja mask all day loss from school.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yeah, and that's why I was having a tough time
for other day.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And looking at the footage, that's why I'm having such
a tough time because there's a lot of different you know,
there's a camouflage one over here, there's one with a
punisher skull over here, and I can't could the person
in it be seventeen eighteen? Sure? Fourteen fifteen? Sure? Thirty? Sure?
I can't really make out right? Welcome to the show, Vinnie.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
On the Street Takeover. I'm a formal officer at Antony
and also I retired from another agency just recently. And
that officer originally was sent on a noise complaint, so
he went in blind. But under today's current laws and
policies and regulations, you can't do a darn thing. It's
not like when you and I were growing up. It's
totally different. And as the officer of values his job,
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his life, his own department, there's nothing currently in Connecticut
you can do on that except later on what they're
going to do in this particular cases, they're gonna video everything,
of course, which they have, and they're gonna apply for
warrants that they can identify them. But it's not gonna
stop the problem. It's gonna cur again because there's no
fear for these these losers out in the street. And
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you can thank the Lawlers and the Windfields and loon East.
What would they have done if they were police officers
are seen because they put the handcuffs on the police?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Oh yeah, I mean Winfield was literally in his home.
It got shot up, just drive by bullets through the windows.
Him and his kids crouched down on the floor, and
he still just trudges forward with his nit wit agenda.
And that would change my whole way of thinking if
that happens. I will if I said to my kids,
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drop on the floor of the living room. You played
blocks on the and we played board, there's bullets coming
through the windows. I wouldn't get up the next morning
and carry on the same way and still believe the
same things.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
Well, I could tell you one thing, the officers knew
what they were getting into it before this call. They
probably would have took the slow boll to China to
get there, because they know they can't do any when
they get there and it's going to be miserable. But
I also blame the voters of Connecticut. Then this is
not a law and owner state. They have vote these
people into office and I don't see that changing right now.
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It's the people of Connecticut that allowed these laws to
get passed.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Oh absolutely, and keep voting in loser. I mean, I
can't even believe lamoncha have never won.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Really exactly now, but listen, the major cities are out
of control. The major cities are setting policy. They set
TX tax policy. And then you've got the people of suburbs,
like you used to say the soccer bombs. Oh, you
don't want to police your neighborhood. Good, And that's the problem.
I think we're all on the same page here. But
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I'll tell you there's no answers on the law. Did
everything correct?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
No, let me let me before you go. Before you go,
let me just ask you that so your former and
so on law enforcement. You're a cop in an Sonya,
which is a great I love I love the valley,
UH love Ansonia. A lot of fond memories. Is gonna
be with a lot of guys from Ansonia this coming
weekend for a big fundraise. I'm looking forward to reuniting
with all of them. Was this up until somewhat recently.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
That you, Yes, it is a police account of Billy
Bill pushed over the edge.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
No, you that you were law enforcement? Were you law absolutely?
Speaker 7 (12:31):
I was there a few years so then so then
let me let me ask him, just sincerely asking the
question of this cop on Saturday night when somebody jumps
on the hood of a squad.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Car, you know, desecrating a vehicle, destruction of police property.
There was, and I'm asking sincerely, there was the only
thing he could do was put the car in reverse
and slowly back away. He's not empowered in any way
like you're destroying police property. There's nothing he can do
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based on.
Speaker 8 (13:06):
The current law. There's no consequence on it. You'll get
arrested for it. If you would got of that car,
he would have been pumbled, pumbled for what butled.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
So then you're saying, if like four or five of
those guys started coming at him and hitting him, he
can't take out his weapon, he can't defend himself. He's
an officer of the law and he's being that's.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
A little bit different. But he put him. But here's
the situation, the DA and the people behind the seat,
and goes, why don't you put yourself in that situation?
Why don't you retreat? This is the mind Unlike when
I first got on, Chief would have told me and
the captain, uh, you got a club, you got two pairs,
you're brave two fifths And that's the officer listened. Doctor
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knows how far he can go today finning. It's not
as he think. They know that they're going to get
no backup. That's just the way it is. And I
thank the voters for it because the Police Accountability Bill,
no one was held accountable for passing that bill, and
even a Republicans voted for that bill of a state