Breitbart's Madine On Harvard

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Episode Transcript

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We go to the Project hotline rightnow. Welcome to the show. Breitbart
News Tech and Education editor Colin Madinehaving you on to talk about this uh
Claudine Gay resignation, which let's startright there. Do you do you think
it was a resignation. It's rightthere, and like the third line of
her resignation leader was, after sittingwith my bosses and the gang here at

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Harvard, we agree, I thinkthey're allowing her to resign. Optics and
all that. There's a lot goingon here video. It's an extremely complicated
situation. So one angle that youjust astutely brought up is, you know,
is there really a resignation? Myposition is there is with an asterisk,

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because you know, in the corporateworld, we see you know,
the famous golden parachutes right where,yeah, you destroyed the company, you
lost those billions of dollars, buthere's you know, you won the lotto
because you get this huge payout.Right, Well, she has sort of
this woke parachute. So yes,technically she resigned, but she goes back

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to teaching at Harvard, and shekeeps about a million dollar a year salary,
give or take, you know whata few peanuts here and there.
She's making about a million bucks ayear. That's news to me right there.
I apologize for jumping on you righthere. So she's staying on in
the faculty. I didn't know thatshe's staying on in the faculty, Bennie.

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And you know, first of all, you and I are more qualified
to be a professor than she is. She would not be hired as a
professor at a community college because she'san academic crook. She doesn't do her
own work, which is the biggestno, no, no of all right
on campus. So but yeah,she is staying on as a professor.

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I'm sure her classes will be themost sought after by the Ivy League,
the type of kids that go tothe Ivy League. Now, and she'll
keep you know, roughly a milliondollar salary. So that's you know,
that's what you'll get breaking news onit. You meant that you weren't being
sarcastic right there. You think theywill no, no, no, no,

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no, absolutely not. I meanshe is she remains a paragon as
the left. Uh And and yeahthat's not that was me in a rare
moment. I'm not being because Iappreciate it. You know something, something
you'll notice in both her resignation letterthat you already brought up and the Harvard
Board's letter, is they pivoted directlyto she's the victim of racist attacks.

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You know, she's this is theevil conservatives going after this strong, brave
woman. They're going to be fighting, you know, the students will be
fighting over themselves to get in theclass with her. Yeah. And the
reason that's really interesting to me,Colin, if you, if you don't
mind me calling you Colin sure,is the fact that when she was being

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grilled only a couple of weeks ago, with all this anti semitism that's raised
raging on our college campuses, shedidn't seem like the most outspoken she She
was like catatonic at a couple ofpoints and would take these long breaks and
then just reiterate we like to encouragefree speech, not even with any real

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conviction. So I'm surprised to hearthat she's as woke and can be as
inspiring as you're implying right here,because she seemed lost that day. And
I don't know, the ism thatgot her is plagiarism, not anti semitism.

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There's a real irony there. I'mgoing to explain that a second,
Vinny, but let me come inon what you just said. She is
extremely woke. She's always been extremelywoke and extremely striving with left wing.
What you're seeing is the worst versionand we've ever had in America of the
Ivory Tower effect. But when wetalk about the Ivory Tower in the past,

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it is that these academics were outof touch with America because they were
in these you know, beautiful IvyLeague campuses and within a bubble. But
that's gotten so much worse. Someonelike Claudine Gay hasn't spoken to people or
been challenged or been pushed by peoplewho don't believe the most insane, strident,

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anti Semitic beliefs and you know,anti white and anti everything right for
probably a decade if not more.So. That's why she seems catatonic and
unresponsive and stuff, because she almostcan't compute, Wait, there's people that
disagree with me because they live insuch a bubble, on a fifty billion

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dollar bundle bubble on the Harvard campusthat she can't imagine that there's people of
all walks of life who would youknow, disagree with her positions because it's
been so long she saw those.You know. Combine that with the fact
that a lot of people thought shewas completely untouchable because you know, one

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of the sort of the wolf poisonon these campuses and in Silicon Valley.
You know that I also cover alot of bright part news is you know,
DEI diversity, equity and inclusion.She's like the poster child for that.
You know, if Harvard was avideo game, she had unlocked the
top level and had all the bestweapons and armor. Right, because she's

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black, she's a woman, she'sa lesbian. That in her mind and
in the mind of DEI, itmakes her essentially untouchable. So it was
shocking to her and chocking to Harvardwhen people went after her. But you
know, let's talk about the plagiarism, because that's really interesting to your point.
It didn't really hurt her that shecosts the university billions of dollars from

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alumni, you know, donors andso forth, because they have fifty billion
dollars. You can kind of betough when you got that much money in
the bank, right, It didn'thurt her that she was on TV in
front of Congress thing it's okay tohate Jews and say you want to kill
them all on our campus. Whatgot her is this brewing civil war in
the academic left between old leftist professorswho are crazy wackos but can do their

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own work, and this new generationof crazy wackos on campus who can't do
their own work. And you know, academics live or die by these papers
they publish and the writing they do. And suddenly you have these leaders,
both professors, which she was aprofessor, and then she became a dean,
then she became the head honcho.They can't do their own work and

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their cribbing work. Anny, Myfavorite part of this entire saga is when
you do some of these papers,you do an acknowledgment section that kind of
says, here's the people who helpedme, here's the professor who inspired me.
She copied that from another person andjust changed the name. How do
you copy the thank you letter?Right? Yeah, I was reading that

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this morning, you know, assomeone who struggled with the proper citation,
and you know, I was alwaysbeing called out for that, but I
mean it was a college student atthis time. It was interesting to see,
I mean, she didn't even citeher sources or right however they came
at her. It was very interesting, but it was so obvious that it's

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a we wanted to get you onthis, but it's better for everyone involved
if we get you on that.So they're still flailing with that, Vinny.
You know, the AP today saysthat plagiarism is the new weapon of
the right against so left, whichis completely absurd, completely absurd. Yeah,
and you know black academic Carol Swain, who was a hardcore leftist who

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kind of saw the light a lotof you know, there's a saying that
conservatives are liberals that were by reality. She was mugged by reality and kind
of kicked out of leftist circles andbecame a conservative later later in life.
She made the point early on thatyou were just kind of making. If
she said, if a white mandid some of the plagiarism that Claudine gay

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Done had done, she would havebeen out like day one because it was
so clear. And that was whenshe said that, when there was about
seven allegations of plagiarism. We gotup to fifty before she finally called uncle.
But you know, to your point, kids get failed if they missed
a citation. That's how that's howHarvard used to be. The new Harvard.

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The new Harvard is saying something asplagiarism is white supremacy and Nazism,
and it's really a symbol to allof us how far he's have fallen.
And you know, news to allyour New Haven listeners. If you think
Yale is any better, you knowyou're barking up the wrong tree. Yeah,
we know that here in New Havenwithout a doubt. You know one

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thing we didn't mention at the veryleast during our exchange. Right here and
again, I'm on with Brett BartNews Tech and Education editor, uh Calin
Madine talking about the Harvard president,Calladine Gay her resignation only had didn't even
have the job a year, right, I mean, I mean, she's
as far as being president and we'retalking July. Let me ask you this,

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uh, October seven doesn't happen.She's still got the job today.
Would would what would the plagiarism haveever really gotten her? I don't think
it would have. I don't eitherbecause because a lot of people this,
you know, the plagiarism was foundby people on the right and the people

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on the right got on her tailbecause they had a reason to say,
who is this bozo who's taking ournation's you know, sort of most iconic
Ivy League college and running it intothe ground. And let me ask this
too, who followed have they?Have they named a successor? Any predictions
there at the and not necessarily nameslike because it won't be merit based.

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So so what will we get inher place? Well, Vinnie, this
is this is great at Brightburt News. I'll take you a little inside baseball
and how we operate. Something welove more than anything is stories that we
call alien versus Predator, like themovie. So you know, it's like
we don't care who wins because it'smonsters killing each other in that movie.

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Right, So in this I'm justI'm making the biggest pot of popcorn i
can and sitting down to watch becauseit's going to be a glorious fight because
we have an interim president who is, even though again a leftist wacko,
is the right kind of person tobe running Harvard in the interim. It's
the guy who tries to catch plagiarismand is the dean of taking care of

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academics. So you know, that'ssomeone who's going to calm the storm.
But there's going to be huge fighton the left about who should be the
new president, and you have alot of far left people screaming it must
be a black woman. So theydidn't learn the lesson, you know,
they didn't learn the lesson that weshould choose someone based on merit. It
has to be based on their characteristicsof their body due to DNA. So

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you know, maybe maybe they needto choose a transgender person. Oh I
don't know, but I'll just sithere and laugh, yeah, because that'd
be glorious, and that'll probably bea plagiaristic. Yeah, yeah, well,
yeah, that's where I was goingto go next. When I first
read her resignation Lauder this morning,I half expected it to begin it was
the best of times, it wasthe worst of times. So you know,

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you're joking, Vinnie. But sheimmediately wondered if it was plagiarized,
and I thought I heard that bythat GPT. Yeah. Yeah, I
was going to go with if Ileave here tomorrow, would you still remember
me? You know, A littlefreebird