Breitbart's Martel: China's Lonely Men

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Breitbart News International editor Francis Martel. Francis Martel has written
this article for for Breitbart dot Com. China warns its
lonely men. You guys, I've how you didn't see this?
This is intriguing to me. Well warns, it's lonely men.

(00:21):
Don't you don't you buy a foreign wife? Uh? By
a life? Is it by a wife? By all means
don't buy a foreign wife? Or is it just don't
buy a wife? And this is the story I want
to I want to lead off with.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, first of all, that's an excellent question. It's by
a foreign wife, emphasis on foreign. Obviously, if there was
a huge traffic human trafficking boom in China, they would
have a problem with that. But the problem with China
is that there's not really many women currently there's of course,
these are Chinese government statistics, so we don't even know
how bad it truly is. But officially there are thirty

(00:58):
five million more men women in China, and so there's
this huge stirth of you know, single child bearing age women,
and it's causing tremendous social problems. I feel like every
few months I open my computer, there's a new a
man stabbing a bunch of kids at a kindergarten, or
you know, a man setting factory on fire because he's mad.

(01:21):
And these are kind of, you know, situations that we
expect when you have millions of lonely men who have
no hope. But that's also feeling human trafficking internationally because
a lot of these men have completely given up on
finding a wife in China and they're just going to
Bangladesh or to Pakistan and they're trying to find in

(01:43):
some cases even child brides. And so that's causing a
whole other wave of problems for China's foreign policy.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
It's a wild story, you know. And I don't want
to come across as as the archaic or inappropriate or
anything like that I see in the States right here,
and I'm sure you do too. Like I don't care
about any statistics that are turned out that say, you know,
marriage is on the right. Actually more people percentage wise
are getting married now than ever. In my opinion, the

(02:14):
marriage rate is plumbing. Today's kids have no interest in
getting married, and they were raised by parents who didn't
show them anything that they want a part of. So
I believe it in America, China surprises me because again,
at the risk of being archaic, I thought they still
rolled kind of the same way. Almost arranged marriages don't

(02:38):
have a daughter first, you know, daughters are frowned upon.
Am I just dating myself here when it comes to
my thoughts on China and the family.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
No, I mean you're correct in that it is a
very traditional culture and that, you know, the part where
girls are frowned upon. That is the key to all
of this, right, because they had a one child policy
for something like thirty thirty five years, and the one
child policy means that if you're firstborn as a daughter,
a lot of people just chose to kill the daughter.

(03:09):
And by that I don't mean just abortion, I mean
leave the daughter part and style out in the wilderness
to die.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
So it's just insanity.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah. According to the Chinese government, four hundred million births
were prevented quote unquote through the one child policy. So
that's four hundred million people that were killed, the majority
probably girls. So the issue is not that Chinese culture
frowns upon traditional marriage. They're just aren't women there simply

(03:39):
aren't women. And the other aspect of this is that
the few women that there are there are cultural expectations
of them to take care of their parents. So if
you have elderly parents, you know you're expected to live
with them and care for them. And when are you
going to have a chance to go on a date.
And even if you do go on a date, who's
going to want.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
To date you?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
And it's so clear that your priority is never going
to be your man. So it's just it's a really.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Tough to do it. It's a crazy story. So but
but are you basically saying they're Francis I told you
I'm fascinated by this one that they kind of made
their own mess because you just said the line right
thereof that they're just aren't women. So well, if you're
killing firstborn, you know, daughters, there will ultimately, at one
point in time be a female shortage. Here are you?

(04:26):
Is that in a roundabout way, what you're kind of
saying is that they made this you know, girl shortage,
They made their own mess.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
That is, that is absolutely what happened.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
And that's not wild saying.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's that social scientists that you know, everyone that can
study this. The Chinese government doesn't openly admit that the
one child policy is the problem, and part of that too,
is that they expanded it. Now there's a three child policies.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I saw that in the story. Yeah it's crazy they have.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
More than three. But the birth rate actually declined after
they ended the one child police. So that shows you
that it's not that people don't want to have kids,
it's that there's and and there are other problems too,
which we've also seen in countries like South Korea. Let's
say you do decide to have a kid, the number
of pediatricians is extremely low because there's no demand. They've

(05:16):
been converting kindergarten into nursing homes because there's just no kids.
So even if you do have a child, the resources
around you are basically non existent in a lot of
China to raise that child properly. And I know some
people listening are going to be like, oh, it's kind
of like that here too, because it's so expective to
have daycare, and but it's different social pressures. Like in China.

(05:38):
It's not that that daycare is expensive or that you
have to have two jobs. Is that there is no
day care because that is not a viable business. It's
that there, you know, there is no pediatrician there's a
million doctors treating you know, geriatric care, but there's not
really that much for children. And you see that a
lot when there are spikes in for example, covid or flu,

(06:01):
these respiratory diseases that that hate kids, everybody just goes
to the emergency rooms in hospitals because there there are
no clinics. There's no pediatric clinics can really go to
in a lot of the country. So you have the
hospital get flooded, and you have just situations where he's
got kids, you know, in the hallways getting IV infusions
because there's nowhere to put them and there's no other

(06:23):
clinics that could handle. And these are cases where in
the United States you would go to whatever clinic or
urgent care, they would give you antibiotics if you leave,
and it becomes a huge chaotic situation. It's China, so
there's just.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
A lot going on that it's a hell of a story,
a hell of a story, you know. And again my
view is and my view is actually when I've always
kind of been in awe of China, there's there's a
lot that I that I kind of culturally that I
think is fantastic. I would have thought daycare wasn't a

(06:58):
big business in China because belief was you raise your children.
You know, in America, we're in awe of the tiger mom.
You know. Yeah, I would have thought, I can't make
it daycare happen here. They're frowned on. You made your own,
you raise your own, and they better know. I hate
it again. I'm embracing stereotype hair, but only because I

(07:19):
was kind of in awe of it by three. They
better play the cello, you know, the exceptional on a
violated cello and a math wizard. I was always kind
of in awe of a lot of things that I
read about China going back decades, which is why when
I first stumbled upon the frowning of the firstborn being

(07:40):
a daughter, I never knew until right now that the
killing was an option. I remember just being stunned by that,
that crazy viewpoint, especially because I saw Chinese women as
kind of running the show in a lot of ways,
the tradition being so strong, and I thought they were
revered to a degree. So I remember being surprised many

(08:02):
many years ago and in high school, when I learned that,
oh yeah, that's a real you know, a Chinese father.
He's let down by that. He needs a firstborn son.
I was shocked to hear that at the time. I
know him all over the road. But I've always I've
always been in awe of China in a lot of ways.
I still am.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, I mean it's a massive country. It's just as
an American, you know, our civilization is what four hundred
and five hundred years old, and there's just two thousand,
three thousand years old, So of course it's absolutely fascinating.
But they are tremendously sexist culture, and that has been
exacerbated by communism. Remember, real tr Chinese culture, it doesn't
exist in China because it's been pruned like a Bonzai

(08:43):
Treaty by the Communist Party.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
And it's been nice people that have been chopped off,
nice metal for there. I mean it's nice, you can.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
See it, right, Yeah. They get cut off everything beautiful
about Chinese culture to make to make it conform to
this hideousness which is communism. So true, Chinese culture really
only exists in Taiwan. And what you have in China
is this mix of Marxism, which is you know, a
German is a Western ideology and a Western religion, and

(09:15):
that religion has sucked to the life out of everything culturally.
And I think a lot of the things that you
brought up that are sort of stereotypes, but I think
a lot of Chinese people would say, yes, we absolutely
prioritize education and pushing our children to be better. We
see a lot of that, I think in the United
States too, And I'm kind of taking liberty as the

(09:36):
child of communist refugees from a different part of the world,
there's a lot of pressure when your parents escaped communism
to excel because you have been given a golden opportunity
that no one in the history of your bloodline has
ever had. And that's absent in China, right because you're
just living under this totalitarianism or there's a camera everywhere

(09:57):
watching what you do. United States, there's this pressure. You know,
your parents did these incredibly heroic things to get you
to the United States, and now you're free in the
land of opportunity. You'd better see that opportunity and if
you don't, you're a disgrace. And you know, all of
the efforts of your entire generations that your family have
been in vain and you know, I feel that and

(10:19):
I came from a much less restrictive you know, my
parents are Cuban, so it's not like China, where it's
like Also, you have the burden of two thousand years
of you know, one of the most advanced cultures bearing
down on you. So I do think that Chinese American
experience is a little different than the Chinese experience, which
right now is just despondent.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
And that's an important distinction. I'm sorry there it is.
But I want to try to make a segue right
now too and throw a little bit of a curveball.
I hope you don't mind, but again, we're almost my partners.
International Editor, Francis Martell, you just said something early on
in this that's important to who not necessarily move quickly

(11:02):
away from your saying that a lot of these stories,
it sounded to me out of China, they're they're almost
they border on in cell. These are lonely men, young
men can't find a wife, a girlfriend, men who are
angry and acting out right.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, in China they call them leftovers.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Leftover men left don't really, yes, but I've tried. I
want to try to segue over and get your thoughts
on this guy who with the flame thrower in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
The Free Palestine. You know, Hamas movement is an extremely
hateful movement and the entire point of the movement is genocidal.
They try to mask it as liberation and anti colonization.
It's genocidal. It's just killed the Jews, that's all they believe.
And they did a decent job of masking it until
October seventh. When October seventh happened, everyone was openly celebrating

(11:59):
the slaughter of Jews, including babies. You know, they were
dead babies found all over the place, and they couldn't.
That was a point of no return for that movement
where they were openly celebrating this. And this includes un
employees that were caught in group chats celebrating this. And
so because it is so overtly hateful, and especially because

(12:23):
Hamas is so overtly hateful towards women as well, and
any Islamic fundamentalist movement is just hateful towards women. They
are not seen as human beings. That attracts a certain
kind of man, and we've seen that in every jihadist movement.
Isis for example, when at the peak of the Isis Caliphate.
The people who were joining ISIS were teen boys who

(12:45):
thought they had nothing to gain from life, and they
were despondent and they were angry, right, and they went
to Syria and they joined ISIS. And there was a
point at which ISIS I think it was twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, the leadership of ISIS put out a big
announcement and said, hey, we don't need any more of
these teen boys. We need engineers, and we need doctors
because we're trying to start a country. We're like, no

(13:06):
more random team voice from Canada, like, we need doctors.
So that when you put out hate, you get hate,
and so it attracts a certain kind of person that's
looking for an excuse to be violent, looking for an
excuse to kill, and the free Palestine movement is a
very easy one to glob onto.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
He applied for asylum. It's it's interesting because it shows
how far back, just how long this whole our situation,
how broken it is, and for how long Because two
thousand and five what put some smack dab in the
middle of W's second term when he was denied a
visa to enter the country but then managed to get
a tourist one overstayed it. I mean, what do you

(13:49):
make of that entire end of it? He was here illegally.
It's landing in Biden's lap now. But the fact of
the matter is immigration has been broken a good long
time and I don't even know what Trump is doing
right now is anything other than a band aid. And
then that's there's better words than that, But it's temporary.
Whoever follows his successor is just going to undo anything

(14:13):
he does right now on this issue.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's the fear. Yeah, that's the fear. But you know,
there's a lot of work that can be done very
quickly just shutting down the border. And this is something
two things I have a very hot take here, which
is I think feminism is really the important missing piece here.
You cannot be a feminist and support the uncontrolled importing

(14:36):
of men from countries where it is common to beat
and kill and assault and demean women. If you want
to protect women, you can't just have an influx of thousands.
It's not millions of men from countries where the notion
of respecting women is unheard of. So that's a big problem.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
That's that's I think the best thing I know it.
I called it at the beginning. I think that's the
best thing you've ever verse said on the show. You
should say that again. You can't be a feminist if
you want to, because you don't see the feminist. You
don't see the feminist outcry for the stoning of women
whose faces can't be shown in parts of the world,

(15:17):
the mutilation of them. And you want the men who
are capable of that and who believe in that over
here I'm the bachelor.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly the attitude and leftist feminism. And
I think a big problem with biggest feminism in general
is that, because it's been hijacked by Marxism, right wing
women don't want to be seen as feminists. They don't
want to call themselves feminists. And that's sort of why I,
as a contrarian, always do call myself a feminist, because

(15:47):
I think there is a very big vacuum where right
wing feminism should be. And part of that is, you know,
this whole segment has been about feminism, because the solving
of the problem in China is stop murder your little girl.
That's really you know that Will would have solved the
problem thirty years ago and solving this problem of radical

(16:07):
Islam is essentially also creating, you know, creating spaces in
the United States where it's just you know, child marriage
and assaults and all these crazy things that are common
in places like Afghanistan are not acceptable. And you cannot
have cultural relativism and feminism at the same time. And

(16:28):
there are very few conservative right wing women who are
willing to take the mantle and say I'm a feminist
and this is wrong. I mean, the closest with God
is like j. K. Rowling, and she really hasn't touched
that sort of international issue. She's just on the trance stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah yeah, and she can be clumsy about it, but
I agree with you, she can just be a bit
because political scholars.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
She's wrote a little book about wizards for kids.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Like you know, the fact that that's we've got, Yeah,
that's it, and she's she's got that sheen of I
don't care. I've got nothing to lose. I'm not looking together,
I don't care about your hate. I don't care about
being canceled, which is a great veneer, if you will,
but it's it's almost too brash. The audience that she

(17:15):
could be heard by won't listen by the way that
she presents it. I believe it's all in presentation. That's
why I like you so much. I think you present
things in a common sense, kind of no nonsense way,
with a little bit of a sense of humor about it,
great pop culture references. I know that sounds silly. I
believe it's important. If you want to reach that audience
that is resistant and knows better, you got to speak

(17:40):
their language absolutely.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
And you know this is why I spent so much
of my career at briber writing about the Eurovision Song contest.
Like I do, think pop culture is tremendously important because
it's about everything else.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
I think that's why you and I click as well
as we do, because I think so too. I just
the Eurovision things kind of gotta stop.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
It's not gonna stop. It's not gonna stop. I've been
listening to the Swedish Sauna song for like two months straight.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
All right, wait, before we went crazy long, but before
I cut you loose, tell me what is the song?
I want to go and listen right now. What is it? Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, my favorite Eurovision song this year is called It
is a song in Swedish in a Swedish dialect from
Finland about going to the sauna and it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, I love sweet, I mean what it's basically aba right,
I mean I love Swedish pop. If that's what we're
bada bata I know, bada bing. I think you do too. Uh,
let me try, let me track that one down. But
I love the I love the Eurovision drops that you do.