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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So when I saw unprecedented hunger in Nigeria for twenty
twenty six is being predicted by the UN as this
Christian genocide continues, you know, I can help but notice
the persecution of Christians of Catholics. That's just not front
page news like it is for people of other faiths.
(00:23):
And I've felt that way for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, yeah, I think that it's kind of hard for
a lot of Americans to understand because we are born
and raised in a majority Christian culture. And that's not
to I'm not making a statement of supremacy or anything.
That's just the fact, like the majority of people who
have a religion in the West are Christians, and so
for us, it's like we're fish in water. We don't
see the water. Christianity is just freely allowed to exist
(00:49):
around us, and that is not the status quo in
a lot of places in the world. And Nigeria is
a very unique case because where we see the most
persecution usually as places where Christians are a minority, like Afghanistan,
right or Pakistan, But in Nigeria, that's a country that's
like forty five percent Christians versus you know, fifty five
(01:10):
percent or something Muslim, and there's this divide. The North
is majority Muslim, the South is majority Christians. So there's
a lot of Christians. There's you know, tens of millions
of Christians in Nigeria, and yet you have this pervasive,
violent persecution, this genocide campaign, especially in the Middle Belt
where you have the two populations kind of meat and
(01:32):
it's a part of the country where the government is
very weak. There's no like, you know, the military and
police presence is very slow. If something happens, you can't
rely on the cops to show up. So I think
it's something that just it doesn't get attention for a
lot of reasons, but the top one being the media
is just very lazy. No journalists in the DC belt
way that's making good money talking about, you know, like
(01:55):
what did Milania wear or something like. Nobody wants to
sit there and learn about all the different and they
the Nigeria, so they don't bother. But the other one,
I think is just that it's really difficult for us
in our life experience to even imagine that level of
Christian persecution. And I think it's very important for us
to try to imagine it, especially for Christians, because you know,
that's part of the faith, is that when one part
(02:16):
of the body hurts, we're all sick, and that we
have to you know, the persecuted church is the holiest
part of the church. So I think, especially for Christians,
it's important to be informed about what's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh, absolutely, and the World Food Program, the w FP
and arm of the United Nations, and I don't know
what as the United Nations actually done anything. And you
know I did my show live from there a few
times France. It's about ten years back from Nigeria, from
the United from the US, from the UN. Although Vinnie
(02:49):
Penn live from Nigeria, why that you would absolutely be
my call. You're my top pick for co host. No
the U from the UN. And look, it wasn't lost
on me as a kid, but you know, I love
(03:10):
my country, you know, as a guy born and raised
in Connecticut. My grandfather was a broadcaster too in Rhode Island,
so it wasn't lost. You know, you're kind of looking
up and around and in awe and I had a
lot of special guests. Was it memorable. Yes, But the UN,
I think should be the problem solver on so many
(03:32):
fronts here and they are neither united nor doing anything
nearest I can tell no.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Absolutely not. They're you know, a big part of the problem.
I think they're the.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Biggest part of the part. Yeah, I think they're the
biggest part.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
They're this massive ancient apparatus, right, Like, they're a huge bureaucracy.
And I'm not saying that everyone at the UN and
evil or anything like that. I think there are a
lot of people working in that institution that really mean well,
that are dedicating their lives to make the world better. Yes,
but it's a really pig hulking, wasteful enterprise, and it's
(04:05):
full of corrupt and evil people. And you know, things
like the UN Peacekeeper program, Like all the peacekeepers have
done around the world is you know, violate children and
get people sick with cholera. That's like their legacy around
the world. They don't keep any peace. And the World's
Food Program itself has had issues with you know, abuse
(04:27):
and it's an early morning program. So I don't know
how much I can say, but definitely inappropriate abuse of
women and that sort of thing. And the World the
World Health Organization also they had a huge harassment scandal
where the head of the WHO had to come out
and be like, yeah, we're gonna investigate these people and
kick them out. Every international institution has this problem because
(04:50):
it's a self selecting group of people and like half
of them are goody two shoes who want to make
the world better and the other half are power hungry abusers,
And there's this struggle within the orgganization and usually the
end result is like no product to it.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, we are a cherry picking species. If somebody from
the World Health Organization, if a big name there was,
if we discovered if the Newscape, if Francis Martell broke
the story he not only is the on the Epstein list,
but he like lived there. The stories are horrific. We've
(05:23):
got video. This is grotesque that the age of these children.
Ninety percent of the people you would share that with
would say, what was Trump on that list? Is Trump
on that list? And that's a big problem. I think
that's a big problem.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, and there's something, you know, bringing Trump into the
Nigeria story. I've got to give a shout out to
the Post because you know, the only the only major, uh,
sort of international figure like that that I've seen follow
up on Trump's Nigeria declaration because Nigeria. Trump came out.
He didn't say, like, we're going to give money to
Nigeria or anything like that, because you know, the MAGA
(06:03):
base gets really nervous when we talk about international things
because they don't want to give any money and they
don't want to bomb anything. And he didn't say either
those things. He said, we're going to designate this country
a religious freedom concerned, which means that we're going to
start talking about taking money away and sanctioning it. And
the only international figure that really backed that up was
the Pope. You know, as soon as Trump started talking
(06:23):
about this, the Pope started talking about it more often too,
and saying, you know, my heart is with the persecuted church.
And that's a lot of pressure on the Nigerian government
that wasn't there, and a lot of other world leaders
that could have done the same thing they didn't. I mean,
the Pope didn't even mention Trump. All he did was,
you know, give his sort of quiet support of saying, yes,
(06:43):
there's a genocide there, Yes there's persecution, and I'm standing
against it. And there were very few world leaders that
did anything like that, and it's because of Trump. They
don't want to be on Trump's side on anything. Yeah,
and so Trump picks the most obvious, you know, easy
case here, like she had bad genified bad, and people
are still hesitating to supports.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, and I don't think it's going to change through
You know what, have we got three years to go now.
It's just I'm giving up on hoping it'll tape her
off or cooler heads will prevail. It's going to be
three years full of squawking and one you know, it's
interesting since the last time we spoke, and again Ron
with Francis Martel, Breitbart's own big fan of first make
(07:30):
sure you're following her on X the Mom Donnie mee.
I mean, that was what a day that was to
find out that Trump and mom Donnie. And you know
when I had Bill O'Reilly on once, and you haven't
heard anything until you've heard Bill O'Reilly talk about the
Trump you know of the early two thousands and how
(07:53):
beloved he was and how you wanted to be at
his table if you were at an event in New
York and if somebody you know did happen to not
be a huge fan, Trump would make them love him
like he goes into a room. He's a joke maker,
and I think he won Mom Donnie over that day.
(08:13):
Look at that photo of Barack Obama cracking up sitting
next to Trump. But then unfortunately the next day, Mom
Donnie had to immediately distance himself from him and flush
the whole meeting down the toilet. And it's like, now
you got on, Well, you know, why can't it be
okay for you to be like, you know what, the guy,
he made me laugh. We agreed on a few things,
(08:37):
let's start.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I don't know if you saw not that twitter's real life,
but the Twitter reaction from the left to that meeting
was just complete meltdown, like mon is a trader, he
doesn't really believe in the revolution. Just complete deranged nonsense.
And you know, I'm so glad that meeting happened. I
think that is one of the most consequential and positive
things that has happened for our country in a very
(08:59):
long time. And and it happened before Thanksgiving. So the
message was, if Mom Donnie, who wants to globalize the Intifada,
can have a nice chat with Donald Trump, you know,
the face of right wing evil according to these leftists,
if they can get along, if they can just be
two guys from Queens. Then why can't you talk to
(09:21):
your uncle at Thanksgiving? You know, why can't you on
nobody get along with your parents just because you voted
different and that I think that was the message, and
I think America really needed to see that that it's
still possible to be civil and friendly and get along
with people who have political disagreements with you and to
acknowledge them. You know, Trump was asked, you called this
guy a communist, and Trump, you know, Mam Donnie was
(09:43):
very nervous when he was asked if Trump was a fascist.
But when Trump was asked if Mam Nanni was a communist,
he was like, yeah, you know, the guy's a little kookie. Hah,
Like that's that's the crash to be. He didn't deny
the disagreement. He was just like, yeah, the guy's a
kok but that's okay. He's the person and I a person,
and we need to work together for this country because
we're America. And it was just very very positive.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I agree, Hell, I just can't help you know,
just the way Trump speaks when he got asked by
that reporter about the horrific shooting to hear a president
say I think he went wacko, you know, and then
she asks a second time. I often wonder if Francis
(10:26):
Martel's her going to wind up in one of those rooms.
And he just looked, you can't ask us the same
question the second time, My man, you know, I'm like
that all of a sudden, He's like, are you stub
You must be a very stupid person to ask me
that question is second time. But he does. He loves
words a cuckoo and wacko and this and that, and
(10:48):
you're right, yeah, that meeting. It should have been the
feel good It should have been the story that made
Thanksgiving tables across America better, less tense, but the media
didn't really run with it. The meltdown was on social media.
You know, it could have been a feel good story,
and the mainstream media just they're not having that on phone.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I want to believe that it was. I want to
believe that the people who were touching and had friendly
Thanksgivings were just not online. They just were too busy
loving their families to give us any content. So and
you know, it came up at my Thanksgiving table and
my my in laws are they're definitely not conservative, They're
they're not left these either, but they're kind of you know,
Northeast white liberals. And we brought you know, we talked
(11:29):
about it and we're like, yeah, wasn't that like cool?
And it was just like this relief of tension. And
I really hope that happens for a lot of people,
because I think that was the entire point.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, one last question for Francis Martel before we call
it a rap right now? Uh, have you ever been
to Tellertio's.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Tellertio's. Noah, that sounds like a pizza place, Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Red? But how far are you from Red Bank, New Jersey?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Ooh about an hour? And this is very interesting because
I wanted to ask you for Connecticut recommendations. But if
you have something in Red Bank.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
For me, no, well, no, no, no, I can certainly
take care of you for Connecticut. Just just let me
know when happy to do that. Telertios is in Red Bank,
New Jersey. There. I told you last time. I wanted
to let you know who is making that that Taylor
Ham those pork roll sandwiches. You got to follow them
(12:24):
like I don't know, you can follow them either on
Instagram or TikTok. I just watched this guy at Tlertio's.
He's great, His content is great and he just makes
sandwiches all day. He's got a sidekick there, a young
guy named Vinnie with down with Down syndrome, and he
just works alongside him. It's great content. They make these huge.
(12:46):
You've got to get to Tellertio's. It's in Red Bank,
New Jersey on.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Five four to four Pilgrimage for you.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, it's in the Union Square. Yeah, yeah, do that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think it's beautiful, by the way. I don't once
because it's a really beautiful small town. New Jersey is
full and I don't want to give off away the secret,
but it's just full of these like really nice walkable
areas with just peaceful scenes. Yeah, I'll see what I
could do for you.
So when I saw unprecedented hunger in Nigeria for twenty
twenty six is being predicted by the UN as this
Christian genocide continues, you know, I can help but notice
the persecution of Christians of Catholics. That's just not front
page news like it is for people of other faiths.
(00:23):
And I've felt that way for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, yeah, I think that it's kind of hard for
a lot of Americans to understand because we are born
and raised in a majority Christian culture. And that's not
to I'm not making a statement of supremacy or anything.
That's just the fact, like the majority of people who
have a religion in the West are Christians, and so
for us, it's like we're fish in water. We don't
see the water. Christianity is just freely allowed to exist
(00:49):
around us, and that is not the status quo in
a lot of places in the world. And Nigeria is
a very unique case because where we see the most
persecution usually as places where Christians are a minority, like Afghanistan,
right or Pakistan, But in Nigeria, that's a country that's
like forty five percent Christians versus you know, fifty five
(01:10):
percent or something Muslim, and there's this divide. The North
is majority Muslim, the South is majority Christians. So there's
a lot of Christians. There's you know, tens of millions
of Christians in Nigeria, and yet you have this pervasive,
violent persecution, this genocide campaign, especially in the Middle Belt
where you have the two populations kind of meat and
(01:32):
it's a part of the country where the government is
very weak. There's no like, you know, the military and
police presence is very slow. If something happens, you can't
rely on the cops to show up. So I think
it's something that just it doesn't get attention for a
lot of reasons, but the top one being the media
is just very lazy. No journalists in the DC belt
way that's making good money talking about, you know, like
(01:55):
what did Milania wear or something like. Nobody wants to
sit there and learn about all the different and they
the Nigeria, so they don't bother. But the other one,
I think is just that it's really difficult for us
in our life experience to even imagine that level of
Christian persecution. And I think it's very important for us
to try to imagine it, especially for Christians, because you know,
that's part of the faith, is that when one part
(02:16):
of the body hurts, we're all sick, and that we
have to you know, the persecuted church is the holiest
part of the church. So I think, especially for Christians,
it's important to be informed about what's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh, absolutely, and the World Food Program, the w FP
and arm of the United Nations, and I don't know
what as the United Nations actually done anything. And you
know I did my show live from there a few
times France. It's about ten years back from Nigeria, from
the United from the US, from the UN. Although Vinnie
(02:49):
Penn live from Nigeria, why that you would absolutely be
my call. You're my top pick for co host. No
the U from the UN. And look, it wasn't lost
on me as a kid, but you know, I love
(03:10):
my country, you know, as a guy born and raised
in Connecticut. My grandfather was a broadcaster too in Rhode Island,
so it wasn't lost. You know, you're kind of looking
up and around and in awe and I had a
lot of special guests. Was it memorable. Yes, But the UN,
I think should be the problem solver on so many
(03:32):
fronts here and they are neither united nor doing anything
nearest I can tell no.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Absolutely not. They're you know, a big part of the problem.
I think they're the.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Biggest part of the part. Yeah, I think they're the
biggest part.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
They're this massive ancient apparatus, right, Like, they're a huge bureaucracy.
And I'm not saying that everyone at the UN and
evil or anything like that. I think there are a
lot of people working in that institution that really mean well,
that are dedicating their lives to make the world better. Yes,
but it's a really pig hulking, wasteful enterprise, and it's
(04:05):
full of corrupt and evil people. And you know, things
like the UN Peacekeeper program, Like all the peacekeepers have
done around the world is you know, violate children and
get people sick with cholera. That's like their legacy around
the world. They don't keep any peace. And the World's
Food Program itself has had issues with you know, abuse
(04:27):
and it's an early morning program. So I don't know
how much I can say, but definitely inappropriate abuse of
women and that sort of thing. And the World the
World Health Organization also they had a huge harassment scandal
where the head of the WHO had to come out
and be like, yeah, we're gonna investigate these people and
kick them out. Every international institution has this problem because
(04:50):
it's a self selecting group of people and like half
of them are goody two shoes who want to make
the world better and the other half are power hungry abusers,
And there's this struggle within the orgganization and usually the
end result is like no product to it.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, we are a cherry picking species. If somebody from
the World Health Organization, if a big name there was,
if we discovered if the Newscape, if Francis Martell broke
the story he not only is the on the Epstein list,
but he like lived there. The stories are horrific. We've
(05:23):
got video. This is grotesque that the age of these children.
Ninety percent of the people you would share that with
would say, what was Trump on that list? Is Trump
on that list? And that's a big problem. I think
that's a big problem.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, and there's something, you know, bringing Trump into the
Nigeria story. I've got to give a shout out to
the Post because you know, the only the only major, uh,
sort of international figure like that that I've seen follow
up on Trump's Nigeria declaration because Nigeria. Trump came out.
He didn't say, like, we're going to give money to
Nigeria or anything like that, because you know, the MAGA
(06:03):
base gets really nervous when we talk about international things
because they don't want to give any money and they
don't want to bomb anything. And he didn't say either
those things. He said, we're going to designate this country
a religious freedom concerned, which means that we're going to
start talking about taking money away and sanctioning it. And
the only international figure that really backed that up was
the Pope. You know, as soon as Trump started talking
(06:23):
about this, the Pope started talking about it more often too,
and saying, you know, my heart is with the persecuted church.
And that's a lot of pressure on the Nigerian government
that wasn't there, and a lot of other world leaders
that could have done the same thing they didn't. I mean,
the Pope didn't even mention Trump. All he did was,
you know, give his sort of quiet support of saying, yes,
(06:43):
there's a genocide there, Yes there's persecution, and I'm standing
against it. And there were very few world leaders that
did anything like that, and it's because of Trump. They
don't want to be on Trump's side on anything. Yeah,
and so Trump picks the most obvious, you know, easy
case here, like she had bad genified bad, and people
are still hesitating to supports.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, and I don't think it's going to change through
You know what, have we got three years to go now.
It's just I'm giving up on hoping it'll tape her
off or cooler heads will prevail. It's going to be
three years full of squawking and one you know, it's
interesting since the last time we spoke, and again Ron
with Francis Martel, Breitbart's own big fan of first make
(07:30):
sure you're following her on X the Mom Donnie mee.
I mean, that was what a day that was to
find out that Trump and mom Donnie. And you know
when I had Bill O'Reilly on once, and you haven't
heard anything until you've heard Bill O'Reilly talk about the
Trump you know of the early two thousands and how
(07:53):
beloved he was and how you wanted to be at
his table if you were at an event in New
York and if somebody you know did happen to not
be a huge fan, Trump would make them love him
like he goes into a room. He's a joke maker,
and I think he won Mom Donnie over that day.
(08:13):
Look at that photo of Barack Obama cracking up sitting
next to Trump. But then unfortunately the next day, Mom
Donnie had to immediately distance himself from him and flush
the whole meeting down the toilet. And it's like, now
you got on, Well, you know, why can't it be
okay for you to be like, you know what, the guy,
he made me laugh. We agreed on a few things,
(08:37):
let's start.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I don't know if you saw not that twitter's real life,
but the Twitter reaction from the left to that meeting
was just complete meltdown, like mon is a trader, he
doesn't really believe in the revolution. Just complete deranged nonsense.
And you know, I'm so glad that meeting happened. I
think that is one of the most consequential and positive
things that has happened for our country in a very
(08:59):
long time. And and it happened before Thanksgiving. So the
message was, if Mom Donnie, who wants to globalize the Intifada,
can have a nice chat with Donald Trump, you know,
the face of right wing evil according to these leftists,
if they can get along, if they can just be
two guys from Queens. Then why can't you talk to
(09:21):
your uncle at Thanksgiving? You know, why can't you on
nobody get along with your parents just because you voted
different and that I think that was the message, and
I think America really needed to see that that it's
still possible to be civil and friendly and get along
with people who have political disagreements with you and to
acknowledge them. You know, Trump was asked, you called this
guy a communist, and Trump, you know, Mam Donnie was
(09:43):
very nervous when he was asked if Trump was a fascist.
But when Trump was asked if Mam Nanni was a communist,
he was like, yeah, you know, the guy's a little kookie. Hah,
Like that's that's the crash to be. He didn't deny
the disagreement. He was just like, yeah, the guy's a
kok but that's okay. He's the person and I a person,
and we need to work together for this country because
we're America. And it was just very very positive.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I agree, Hell, I just can't help you know,
just the way Trump speaks when he got asked by
that reporter about the horrific shooting to hear a president
say I think he went wacko, you know, and then
she asks a second time. I often wonder if Francis
(10:26):
Martel's her going to wind up in one of those rooms.
And he just looked, you can't ask us the same
question the second time, My man, you know, I'm like
that all of a sudden, He's like, are you stub
You must be a very stupid person to ask me
that question is second time. But he does. He loves
words a cuckoo and wacko and this and that, and
(10:48):
you're right, yeah, that meeting. It should have been the
feel good It should have been the story that made
Thanksgiving tables across America better, less tense, but the media
didn't really run with it. The meltdown was on social media.
You know, it could have been a feel good story,
and the mainstream media just they're not having that on phone.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I want to believe that it was. I want to
believe that the people who were touching and had friendly
Thanksgivings were just not online. They just were too busy
loving their families to give us any content. So and
you know, it came up at my Thanksgiving table and
my my in laws are they're definitely not conservative, They're
they're not left these either, but they're kind of you know,
Northeast white liberals. And we brought you know, we talked
(11:29):
about it and we're like, yeah, wasn't that like cool?
And it was just like this relief of tension. And
I really hope that happens for a lot of people,
because I think that was the entire point.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, one last question for Francis Martel before we call
it a rap right now? Uh, have you ever been
to Tellertio's.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Tellertio's. Noah, that sounds like a pizza place, Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Red? But how far are you from Red Bank, New Jersey?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Ooh about an hour? And this is very interesting because
I wanted to ask you for Connecticut recommendations. But if
you have something in Red Bank.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
For me, no, well, no, no, no, I can certainly
take care of you for Connecticut. Just just let me
know when happy to do that. Telertios is in Red Bank,
New Jersey. There. I told you last time. I wanted
to let you know who is making that that Taylor
Ham those pork roll sandwiches. You got to follow them
(12:24):
like I don't know, you can follow them either on
Instagram or TikTok. I just watched this guy at Tlertio's.
He's great, His content is great and he just makes
sandwiches all day. He's got a sidekick there, a young
guy named Vinnie with down with Down syndrome, and he
just works alongside him. It's great content. They make these huge.
(12:46):
You've got to get to Tellertio's. It's in Red Bank,
New Jersey on.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Five four to four Pilgrimage for you.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, it's in the Union Square. Yeah, yeah, do that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think it's beautiful, by the way. I don't once
because it's a really beautiful small town. New Jersey is
full and I don't want to give off away the secret,
but it's just full of these like really nice walkable
areas with just peaceful scenes. Yeah, I'll see what I
could do for you.
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