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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome to the show. Breitbart News International Editor Francis Martell.
(00:04):
You know, I got to be honest with you, Francis.
When I saw the subject line hot off the press
right about now's the little words, I'm like, uh oh,
what is this? And I've actually got a question for
you about it. So it's the story Marco Rubio succeeding
and convincing Panama to exit the Belton Road Initiative with China.
(00:24):
My question for you they joined it when Trump was
president last time, so I'm trying to understand. So if
they joined it in twenty seventeen eighteen while he was
in office, what happened that Now it's like we want
you out of this, or maybe Trump didn't want you
out of this. I just don't get how it's a victor.
(00:44):
HiT's another feather in Trump's cap.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well. The first major piece of this puzzle that I
feel like no American media seems to be talking about
is that Panama elected a conservative president in May. So
this new administration is very new and it's very pro Trump.
That was not the situation in the past. I asked
to why Trump didn't prioritize them in twenty seventeen. I mean,
I just still had a califate in twenty seventeen. I
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think the priority list was a lot bit different than
it is today. And once you know, he took out
all my body, he worked really hard to take money
out of Iranian hands. Those were the big priorities after
Obama had had done so much damage to a foreign policy.
I think, you know, not that Biden didn't, but Biden
only had four years to mess things up, and so
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I think he has a lot more leeway to handle
things like, you know, our relationship with Latin American country.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You know, it's interesting to hear you say Melino is
a fan of Trump. You know, there I can understand saying,
you know, a price and inn you know in another
country respects Trump. But being a fan is an interesting
choice of words, especially when he's playing hardball like this
(01:58):
whole weekend. All I saw in social media feeds where
we're who's going to be by our side if there's
another nine to eleven. He's making enemies and yet you're.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Panama, Panama is gonna help us if there's another nin
Panamanian listeners.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But but fan is is an interesting choice of words. No,
I mean why why would anyone be a fan of
the president of the United States. You can respect them,
why would you be a fan of obviously the thought
processes with him in charge America, this is how we
can benefit, right, We're getting something from him being in
a leadership position. No.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yes, But I think that there's two things happening here.
One is that Molino and the Panamanians were completely just
taken by surprise by all this Canal business. I don't
think anyone expects the Canal to be, you know, within
the top five hundred of Trump's priorities coming into office.
That came out of nowhere. Yeah, but before that happened,
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you know, Trump made patriotism cool again. The Obama years
were all defined by globalism, and you know it's a
combination of of Obama and the European Union kind of
pushing this were all citizens of the world thing. You know.
Obama with his speeches where he would be asked about
Islamic terrorism and he would start talking about how the
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Crusades were bad, you know, like it was not. He
made it very uncool to like your own country. And
then Trump came back and said, basically, it's okay to
put your country first. It's okay to prioritize the interests
of your country, and people like Molino, people like Havamile
and Argentina, Naive Bukali and Alsalvador, these leaders looked and said,
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this is great. Why shouldn't we think of our countries
as important as how Trump seased America And so that
was a big part of Molino's campaign, especially with immigration.
He basically promised, I'm going to get all these Venezuelans
out of here, because Canami is basically the road out
of South America north. So they have tens of thousands
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of migrants crossing through there through their Darien Gap, which
is this very dangerous jungle trail, and they're destroying it environmentally.
Of course, you know, they leaves garbage, but they're also
dying there and they're just causing it a horrible security crisis.
And Trump made it okay for the Panamanians to say, actually,
we care about Panama more than we care about you know,
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these other countries, and we're going to put them first.
And I think that's where, you know, to say he's
a fan of the idea, I think that's what I
mean is just they people like MoU you know, and again,
like me, Lay, they appreciate that they can say, actually,
we love our country and more than we love other countries,
because that was a lot cool to say.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's a very interesting take. I actually I hope you're right.
It never crossed my mind because imagine how many problems
that would solve of if love of your own country
began to like be the prevailing scent globally and your
country no longer became a place you needed to flee
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for safety to America. I mean, that would resolve a
lot of our issues as far as a lot of
these countries that there are people like you got killed
here by the cartels. I want to add here. As
opposed to let's stay, let's fix it, it's let's make
it livable, let's love it again. Pride and country absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And I think that, you know, when Molino was elected,
he felt like Trump, if Trump won, that was going
to be somebody that he used to work with very well.
Because if you resolve the Darian gap issue, if you
stop people from going through Panama, that's going to be
a serious benefit to our southern border. And it's not
just Venezuelan's you know, it's Sangladesh Indians, it's Chinese who
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fly into South America and then they just find a
human trafficking operation and pay to get small north. So
it's a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah. Uh, and again we are on with Brett part
News International Editor Francis Mark. Last time you were on,
you're the only other time you've been on thus far.
Twenty twenty five was some great Trudeau stuff. It was
interesting to see him talk a little tough this weekend
from what I I don't know. He came across as
on his way out the dough even get I'm gonna
(06:15):
give Trump a nice shove on my way out the door.
He was talking to you, I'm sure the Jersey girl
in what and he wants to mock me yet again
and say is that talking tough? And was that talking tough?
But I felt like he was. He was saying things
like he better watch out, uh and or at the
very least, and Americans aren't going to let Trump himself
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has said this is gonna hurt for the little Okay,
this is gonna hurt for a little while, but in
the long run, I don't know if I've got a
little while either. Francis So what's your take on all
this with Canada and with Mexico and China.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, I'm just imagining, you know, walking in a dark
alleyway in the middle of villas for the night and
being threatened by Justin Trudeau, afraid of him.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Let me tell you something, Francis, if you and I
were out together drinking, I think you've deduced this already,
and Trudeau came looking for trouble, you would be my
human shield, have you? Have you not gleaned that yet
as far as our relationship is concerned, you're the fighter.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
St worries for either of our in this far such scenario.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You can take them all good good, That's what I
like on a woman.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And that's you know, I make it a joke because
I think that's exactly why Trudeau had to resign. Yeah,
because he went out there when Trump initially made the
terror threat and then he flew to dashed Tomorrow Lago
and was like, yes, sir, thank you, sir, you know please,
and the Canadians couldn't handle it, which is incredible because
the Canadians aren't, you know, traditionally a gruff people. It's
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not like they wanted Trudeau to go over there and
punch them in the faith. But they felt like he
didn't defend Canadian interests at all. And again this goes
back to we were just talking about where the global
radical shift in thinking that Trump brought, where that you know,
people started feeling like their world leaders should represent their
interests over other people's interests. That's been global and Canadians
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feel that they don't want a prime minister that's going
to defend Canadian interests and Trudeau was not the guy
and he didn't do it. So that's why he has
to resign. And Canada is just such a mess right now.
Canada does not have a parliament. They have no legislature,
so anything that they threatened to do to us, they
can't actually do it, which is hilarious, you know, because
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now Trudeau's trying to sound a little tougher and there's
no there there. He can't there's no policies that he
could get through a parliament because there's no parliament. And
the reason there's no parliament is that he power lines
to the parliament. He does something called prorogation, which is
essentially parliament can't function until March twenty fourth to allow
his party, the Liberal Party, to find a new leader
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and everybody keeps their seats. That's the difference between dissolving
and prorogation is that when they come back, all the
members of parliament are the same people. So there's no
imagine threatening you know, economic sanctions or any sort of policy.
But you don't have a congress. And then the US
has no congress. So that's where Canada is is tremendously embarrassing.
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The Conservatives are having a field day up there, and yeah,
and the point of all of this is for a
Liberal party to get a little stronger and hopefully not
get totally crushed at the polls.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
On they do have an election, answer this one for me, Francis,
and hopefully without more mockery. No problem, Jeez, you really
become a bit of a bully as far as I'm
concerned in recent recent visits, I can't wrap my head around.
And I haven't seen you know, the question asked. I
(09:52):
love the new Press secretary. I think she handles herself
very well, you know, and I hope the job doesn't
beat the hell out of her. But no, okay, So
a twenty five percent tariff on Canadian goods twenty five
percent Mexican goods. Why ten percent for China when China's
where we get the most. No, why would China not
be frigging forty percent?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, you know that. I mean, I've probably said it
on this show. I support a full trade embargo with China.
You know, if we haven't on Cuba, we should absolutely
have embargo on China. The logic I think is just
a tariff on Chinese goods would obviously hurt the poorest
Americans the most, because a lot of what we get
from China is cheap stuff that people use, especially in
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you know, wealthier people can just buy American or just
find an alternative that's a little more expensive. But the
people that are really struggling, they you know, if they
need to buy just basic home goods, just stuff for
your bathroom, cleaning brush, whatever, they're gonna have to buy
the cheap Chinese stuff because they have to prioritize you know,
food and gasoline to get to their jobs.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So you're saying franscis then ultimately Trump took that into consideration.
We'll go a little lighter on China, who he's not
a huge fan of. We both have died that's been
documented decades ago. But he took Americans, lower wage, lower
income Americans into consideration with this.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's the only thing that makes sense to me, because
otherwise it's exactly what you said, we should embargo China.
Never mind at ten percent tariff. You know, if they're
the source of the entire fentanal crisis, is their fault
starting with the the industrialization of our cities. They are
absolutely feeling the illegal immigration, the mass migration crisis. They
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have deals with the cartels. So China is the source
of everything, and they definitely deserve a tariff more than Canada.
So the only thing that makes sense to me is
just I think Trump is aware that given the volume
of goods coming from China and things like you know,
in hospitals, latex gloves, syringes, like he needs to fix
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our supply chain before he just completely cuts off China.
And I think that's what it out.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I think I just asked you a fantastic question and
you just answered it really well. And no, and I'm
not even saying that as a setup for like a
but dump bump, But like I was watching the most
recent press conference, I think it was the most recent
and I wish some of these questions were being asked.
Like one guy you probably know who I mean, especially
(12:30):
considering your title with Breibart, but he's asking the Press secretary,
why does the president curse?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Like you know New York the end?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, you know, I wanted this question, and I believe
you did. It's interesting to hear you temper it too
with that's this is my best guess. I don't know
that those are questions i'd like ask of Trump, not
do you curse for a fact? Or do you regret
it later? That actually got asked? You know, I don't
know if you know that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, well, these are the people that had six seats
in the White House briefing room forever and now thanks
to Trump, you know, bry Bart News is in there
and and we're going to get rotated. So hopefully we'll
get good questions in and we'll do our best to
keep up with that. But yeah, you preface that question
as if it was a silly question, and it's actually
a really intelligent question. I did my best to answer
because I'm not Trump, But of course it's an intelligent question.
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I mean, China is the source of a lot of
our problems as a country.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, it's just that the bullying has me a bit timid,
So I'm a little it's.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Just a it's judging around with pals.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
You don't need a guidance.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Counselor that's it. I'm going to need a service animal.
I'm going to need something to a cuddle dog or
what have you. No, I was genuinely and that makes
perfect sense to me. Uh, And you'd think it would
be something that Trump would be touting. I'm the way
out the door, though, Francis, I want you to watch
The Apprentice, that movie actually made about that. Trump hates
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that the guy playing him actually got an Oscar nomination
for Sebastian stan Jeremy Strong playing Roy Kohane. I think
you'd really enjoyed it, and I'd like to talk to
you about it because a lot of this stuff is
in there. Yeah, I mean, there's a couple of fairly
tough scenes. But if you get some time away from
Bluie and all the other stuff, you say, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Just severance now. Actually, so if I if I get
my head away from the TV for that for five seconds.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh, I just watched the third episode Friday Night with
the Goats. It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Steep into reading theories and trying to figure out myself
over here.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
No, it's it's a tough one, but a great series