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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But Patrick. Hey, welcome to the Vinnie Penn Project.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Thank you Vinnie.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
So I let me first just get out of the way.
Butch Patrick best known for playing Eddie Munster in just
one of my favorite shows as a kid, The Munsters
Special guest at Para Con which is a great paranormal
and true crime convention. It's taken place Waterbury July twelfth
and thirteenth. The Legacy Special Guest of Honor, Charles Rosene
(00:27):
is the man. It's the fifth anniversary of this. I'm
glad he got you. I have to tell you this,
but and I wonder how often you get told this.
But when I was a kid, I wanted to be you.
I wanted to you know what I really wanted. I
wanted to live in that house. Do you get that?
A lot?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I do. A lot of people really enjoyed it. They
all thought about that, Ye, why can't I have a
parent or a family like that and live in that house?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Exactly? Yeah, I loved the Munster's House. There are parts
of the Munster's House though, that you only saw ones
and you never saw it again. Did you ever notice that?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah? They would write a script. Sometimes it would feature
a room that was never seen again, and once in
a while you'd actually look the other way into the
fourth wallet you never saw.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So yeah, yeah, and it was interesting too. I was,
you know, I was a were wolf guy. I mean
a big horror fan, but were wolves were my thing.
And I mean, ultimately that's what Eddie Monster was. Will
just even say, I mean, Herman was so clearly, you know,
based on Frankenstein. Grandpa was clearly you know, a vampire.
(01:30):
I mean, Eddie was a little wolf boy, right, but
you didn't turn into a ware. You weren't a were wolf.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
No, there's a lot of creative license back then. It
was just a friendly family of Universal monsters. So we
had everybody covered except a wolf boy. So I guess
I was voted in just by the process.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, it's interesting to hear you say. You know, it
was the Universal Monsters. Universal was pretty protective of all
of their Did they ever give the monsters any did
they ever hassle the series? I thought that series should
have been on for like eight seasons.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, you know what happened with that series was it
was a transitional period in the mid sixties and black
and white television was ending and color TV was coming.
In Yeah, and we had done very very well against
everybody that they threw against us. The Batman came in
in color, and we were still a black and white show.
So we had the choice of either going to color
and trying to re you know, gain our lead, or
(02:25):
just going to do a Munster movie Munster Go Home
in color and calling it a day. And we did
seventy episodes over two years, which is quite a bit,
that is. But I think the main thing was fred
Gwynn and al Lewis for both New Yorkers who had
been transplanted to the West Coast, and I think they
just wanted to go home.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah. Fred Gwynn, just what a character he created, their
great telling Yeah, yeah, just a great talent. I mean
later would do pet Cemetery. I mean a storied career.
But for listeners here it stand out as in Patte.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Don't forget your names. They don't forget to name my cousin, Binny.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's it. And the judge there, you know, I remember
the story too, butch of fred Gwynn auditioning for was
it Punky Brewster. I remember him telling this story in
an interview and I found it interesting and I think
I think it was Punky Bruster and the little girl
just saying, or the people having him read were like,
all we saw was Herman Munster, which I kind of
(03:23):
don't get because Herman was such a character that he
put on that. You know, Fred Gwinn himself acted nothing
like that. But do you remember that story?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It was the voice he just couldn't lose, the deep
baritone voice, the Herman munsterd voice. Plus plus the guy
was six foot seven, you know, without his boots. Was
he really still a great tall guy?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah? Was he? Hey? What did you think? Butch if
you don't mind my ask? And of the the Rob
Zombie movie, did you well? Then again, didn't you pop
up in that? Did you have a cameo in that?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah? Pat Thries and I both had voiceover cameos. That
was a tin Can man and she was the voice
of the stewardess of the playe. But what I what
I liked about it was suit number one. I like
when I went in to do my bit, I saw
the texture in the colors. Wow, it looks like a
Tim Burton movie, which I like. But what I really
enjoyed was that told the love story of how Herman
and Lily met that has never been addressed. So that
(04:14):
was entertaining. And the fact that, you know, as long
as you didn't expect it to be the Monsters or
expected to be Devil's rejects, you know, his typical horror movie,
it was just an entertaining little monster tribute, you know,
kind of like a story.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I enjoyed it, Yeah, I did too. I thought it
got a little bit of of a bum wrap. I
worried about the guy playing Herman too, because he just
kind of did it his own way, because, as you
and I both acknowledged, just the stuff he used to
do with it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Was a funny Jeff Didaniel Phillips who played Herman, when
we got together with Danny Roebuck, who played the Count.
I looked over at him and I saw his resume
and he was a he was the guy the Geico Caveman.
I went, you were in a caveman. Now you respect me.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That's a great role. I did. Oh, that's a fit.
I love the guy co cave Man. That's that's it.
I didn't know that. And then there was that series
a few years ago. Well I guess they bailed on
it and they just wound up hearing it one night.
I remember watching it with my kids. My kids are
now twenty two and nineteen, but they're a wildly different
generation and they love the Monsters when they were little
(05:19):
and night and we got that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I'm doing a driving tour through the country showing Monster
Go Home mid weekend, and it's amazing the family unit
that comes out, the little kids that are watching it
with their parents and grandparents. It's gonna it's gonna hang
on for another you know, sixty years. We're just this
is our sixth anniversary right now.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, it is. And I think the black and white
place a bit. It's retro, you know, I think that
actually helps. I'm glad you guys didn't. Although I saw
the Monsters go Home, what or come Home? That was
in color, right, and that was I love that too.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, we did that in color. They did that in
color as a strategic business move because they wanted to.
They wanted to release the feature worldwide so that way
they could sell the syndicated rights the Monsters because the
rest of the world didn't hadn't seen the show, so
the movie was an introduction and and then going back
to the black and white genre, you know, The Universal
was the Monster studio for all of the great ones
(06:11):
from the thirties on, and they were all done in
black and white, and it was the proper genre for
they draged off Frankenstein Wolfman movies, no doubt stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, and I mean you and I how disrespectful I'm
being not not you, of course, Yvonne de Carlo. I
mean what to score her? I mean she was in
some of the most classic movies of all time.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, the Ten Commandments for the name one. And she
actually dropped into television long before a list movie stars
did that.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, well she was.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
She was really quite the trend setter. And she did
a fabulous job, as you know, holding down the fork
in that household with all the ethics going on around her.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh, I loved Lily. I loved the whole family. I
told you I wanted to. I used to ask my parents,
how do you even answer a question? I used to
ask my parents I was like five, six, seven years old.
I'd be like, I want to live in the monsters, Like,
how could I in the month. There's no answer to
that question. It's it's not possible. Does the set sit
(07:07):
anywhere nowadays? Budge like is it on a lot somewhere
where people could visit it. It's so wrecked. Its thirteen
thirteen Mockingbird Lane.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, I'll tell you what. On a lot it looks
like Desperate Housewives because they use that house and with
steria lane. But there is a couple in last half
of Texas that built a spot on accurate Munster mansion
that they decorated perfectly. They's got every room, it's got spot,
it's got the stairway, it's got everything, and it's called
the Munster Mansion and Laxahatchie. So any of your listeners
(07:35):
ever make it the Nallas It's about a half an
hour from Dallas.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'd love to check that out. I forgot all about
spot fantastic. But Patrick again, he's going to be at
Para con Waterbury July twelfth and thirteenth, the Legacy Special
Guest of Honor as it should be, and you're going
to be signing autographs, taking photos all that good. So
both days I'm imagining, but.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes, absolutely, I'll either both days look forward to. It's
got a lot of friends in the area and they
come on out. Charles puts on a great show. He's
a great guy and can't wait, don't wait to meet everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I can't wait to meet you, Eddie Monster, I can't wait. There,
I'm looking for Buddy.
But Patrick. Hey, welcome to the Vinnie Penn Project.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Thank you Vinnie.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
So I let me first just get out of the way.
Butch Patrick best known for playing Eddie Munster in just
one of my favorite shows as a kid, The Munsters
Special guest at Para Con which is a great paranormal
and true crime convention. It's taken place Waterbury July twelfth
and thirteenth. The Legacy Special Guest of Honor, Charles Rosene
(00:27):
is the man. It's the fifth anniversary of this. I'm
glad he got you. I have to tell you this,
but and I wonder how often you get told this.
But when I was a kid, I wanted to be you.
I wanted to you know what I really wanted. I
wanted to live in that house. Do you get that?
A lot?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I do. A lot of people really enjoyed it. They
all thought about that, Ye, why can't I have a
parent or a family like that and live in that house?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Exactly? Yeah, I loved the Munster's House. There are parts
of the Munster's House though, that you only saw ones
and you never saw it again. Did you ever notice that?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah? They would write a script. Sometimes it would feature
a room that was never seen again, and once in
a while you'd actually look the other way into the
fourth wallet you never saw.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So yeah, yeah, and it was interesting too. I was,
you know, I was a were wolf guy. I mean
a big horror fan, but were wolves were my thing.
And I mean, ultimately that's what Eddie Monster was. Will
just even say, I mean, Herman was so clearly, you know,
based on Frankenstein. Grandpa was clearly you know, a vampire.
(01:30):
I mean, Eddie was a little wolf boy, right, but
you didn't turn into a ware. You weren't a were wolf.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
No, there's a lot of creative license back then. It
was just a friendly family of Universal monsters. So we
had everybody covered except a wolf boy. So I guess
I was voted in just by the process.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, it's interesting to hear you say. You know, it
was the Universal Monsters. Universal was pretty protective of all
of their Did they ever give the monsters any did
they ever hassle the series? I thought that series should
have been on for like eight seasons.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, you know what happened with that series was it
was a transitional period in the mid sixties and black
and white television was ending and color TV was coming.
In Yeah, and we had done very very well against
everybody that they threw against us. The Batman came in
in color, and we were still a black and white show.
So we had the choice of either going to color
and trying to re you know, gain our lead, or
(02:25):
just going to do a Munster movie Munster Go Home
in color and calling it a day. And we did
seventy episodes over two years, which is quite a bit,
that is. But I think the main thing was fred
Gwynn and al Lewis for both New Yorkers who had
been transplanted to the West Coast, and I think they
just wanted to go home.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah. Fred Gwynn, just what a character he created, their
great telling Yeah, yeah, just a great talent. I mean
later would do pet Cemetery. I mean a storied career.
But for listeners here it stand out as in Patte.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Don't forget your names. They don't forget to name my cousin, Binny.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's it. And the judge there, you know, I remember
the story too, butch of fred Gwynn auditioning for was
it Punky Brewster. I remember him telling this story in
an interview and I found it interesting and I think
I think it was Punky Bruster and the little girl
just saying, or the people having him read were like,
all we saw was Herman Munster, which I kind of
(03:23):
don't get because Herman was such a character that he
put on that. You know, Fred Gwinn himself acted nothing
like that. But do you remember that story?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It was the voice he just couldn't lose, the deep
baritone voice, the Herman munsterd voice. Plus plus the guy
was six foot seven, you know, without his boots. Was
he really still a great tall guy?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah? Was he? Hey? What did you think? Butch if
you don't mind my ask? And of the the Rob
Zombie movie, did you well? Then again, didn't you pop
up in that? Did you have a cameo in that?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah? Pat Thries and I both had voiceover cameos. That
was a tin Can man and she was the voice
of the stewardess of the playe. But what I what
I liked about it was suit number one. I like
when I went in to do my bit, I saw
the texture in the colors. Wow, it looks like a
Tim Burton movie, which I like. But what I really
enjoyed was that told the love story of how Herman
and Lily met that has never been addressed. So that
(04:14):
was entertaining. And the fact that, you know, as long
as you didn't expect it to be the Monsters or
expected to be Devil's rejects, you know, his typical horror movie,
it was just an entertaining little monster tribute, you know,
kind of like a story.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I enjoyed it, Yeah, I did too. I thought it
got a little bit of of a bum wrap. I
worried about the guy playing Herman too, because he just
kind of did it his own way, because, as you
and I both acknowledged, just the stuff he used to
do with it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Was a funny Jeff Didaniel Phillips who played Herman, when
we got together with Danny Roebuck, who played the Count.
I looked over at him and I saw his resume
and he was a he was the guy the Geico Caveman.
I went, you were in a caveman. Now you respect me.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That's a great role. I did. Oh, that's a fit.
I love the guy co cave Man. That's that's it.
I didn't know that. And then there was that series
a few years ago. Well I guess they bailed on
it and they just wound up hearing it one night.
I remember watching it with my kids. My kids are
now twenty two and nineteen, but they're a wildly different
generation and they love the Monsters when they were little
(05:19):
and night and we got that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I'm doing a driving tour through the country showing Monster
Go Home mid weekend, and it's amazing the family unit
that comes out, the little kids that are watching it
with their parents and grandparents. It's gonna it's gonna hang
on for another you know, sixty years. We're just this
is our sixth anniversary right now.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, it is. And I think the black and white
place a bit. It's retro, you know, I think that
actually helps. I'm glad you guys didn't. Although I saw
the Monsters go Home, what or come Home? That was
in color, right, and that was I love that too.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, we did that in color. They did that in
color as a strategic business move because they wanted to.
They wanted to release the feature worldwide so that way
they could sell the syndicated rights the Monsters because the
rest of the world didn't hadn't seen the show, so
the movie was an introduction and and then going back
to the black and white genre, you know, The Universal
was the Monster studio for all of the great ones
(06:11):
from the thirties on, and they were all done in
black and white, and it was the proper genre for
they draged off Frankenstein Wolfman movies, no doubt stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, and I mean you and I how disrespectful I'm
being not not you, of course, Yvonne de Carlo. I
mean what to score her? I mean she was in
some of the most classic movies of all time.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, the Ten Commandments for the name one. And she
actually dropped into television long before a list movie stars
did that.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, well she was.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
She was really quite the trend setter. And she did
a fabulous job, as you know, holding down the fork
in that household with all the ethics going on around her.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh, I loved Lily. I loved the whole family. I
told you I wanted to. I used to ask my parents,
how do you even answer a question? I used to
ask my parents I was like five, six, seven years old.
I'd be like, I want to live in the monsters, Like,
how could I in the month. There's no answer to
that question. It's it's not possible. Does the set sit
(07:07):
anywhere nowadays? Budge like is it on a lot somewhere
where people could visit it. It's so wrecked. Its thirteen
thirteen Mockingbird Lane.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, I'll tell you what. On a lot it looks
like Desperate Housewives because they use that house and with
steria lane. But there is a couple in last half
of Texas that built a spot on accurate Munster mansion
that they decorated perfectly. They's got every room, it's got spot,
it's got the stairway, it's got everything, and it's called
the Munster Mansion and Laxahatchie. So any of your listeners
(07:35):
ever make it the Nallas It's about a half an
hour from Dallas.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'd love to check that out. I forgot all about
spot fantastic. But Patrick again, he's going to be at
Para con Waterbury July twelfth and thirteenth, the Legacy Special
Guest of Honor as it should be, and you're going
to be signing autographs, taking photos all that good. So
both days I'm imagining, but.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes, absolutely, I'll either both days look forward to. It's
got a lot of friends in the area and they
come on out. Charles puts on a great show. He's
a great guy and can't wait, don't wait to meet everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I can't wait to meet you, Eddie Monster, I can't wait. There,
I'm looking for Buddy.
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