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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Charlie Kirk, Welcome to the Vinie Penn Project.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I appreciate you taking the time to come on and
congratulations on all your success on the new book to
Right Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke and Save
the West. I got to tell you, I didn't realize
how young you were, Charlie. To me anyway, tragically, to me, anyway,
thirty is young. And I've said it before, I'll say
(00:26):
it again, like you're important. A thirty year old saying
the things you're saying is going to have way more
of an effect and is much more necessary to the
I've got a twenty one year old and an eighteen
year old. They're listening to you. Tragically, they're listening to
an AOC. They just can't your message, as great as
(00:49):
it is coming from a sixty five year old guy
who's lived a great it falls on deaf ears and
I believe the youth demo is the demo.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, well, thank you for that. That is the work.
It's really interesting. Younger voters are actually becoming more right
wing and more conservative, and we actually talk about that
in the book. It's a fascinating twist right now, and
we talk about that in the book a little bit
where younger voters they do not like the status quo.
The status quo means they cannot buy a home. They
(01:19):
are most depressed, suicidal, alcohol addicted, drug addicted generation history.
And you know, it's not a criticism by any means.
It's just the fact I get a lot of hate
when I say this, but baby boomers are generally okay
with the status quo. The status quo has made them
really rich, has made them a lot of money. And
now there's a lot of exceptions to that, but it's
a fascinating thing where younger voters are upset they really
(01:41):
don't own a lot of property, they're increasingly poor, but
their parents' generation is kind of saying, oh, hold on,
this country is still wealthy and terrific. Let's not change
too many things.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, it's interesting the front end of that. I
totally see. Like I said, I have a twenty one
year old and an eighteen year old. You know, I've
got two kids, first presidential election, both voting in and
they're not happy about the America they're being handed. They
take a lot of potshots at the baby boomers, me
being one of them, so I'm with you on that,
(02:10):
there's anxiety that they won't be able to buy a home,
do what they want to do for a living, afford this, that,
and the other. It was the back end that surprised
me to hear you say that there are some sedate
baby boomers who are sure things are going to be
just fine because we can't go on like this much
(02:30):
longer another four years. Honest to god, Charlie Kirk, you
don't know me from hold the Wall. You never will.
You know, maybe we'll wind up at an event together someday,
maybe we won't. I won't survive financially. I just I
can't weather that storm. And that's a.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Storm that is a true message, and we need, we need,
like Project Boomer, for you to get that message out. Again.
It's very fixable and your audience can can fact check
on that me on that and again I say that
I get so much nasty emails because people say, but
I don't feel that way, and I said, okay, that's
not the point. The point is that the status quo
candidate traditionally is the Republican where it's conservative, you know,
(03:10):
let's not change too many things. The Democrats are usually
the upheaval. Candidate usually where we're going to make major changes,
We're going to try to give a voice the voiceless.
Well that's all changed. Donald Trump has changed that. It's
fascinating something, something's happening there, right, And so yeah, look,
we talked about this in the book. Where most baby
boomers own property, Most baby boomers have a significant stock
(03:34):
position or some stock position. And it's not just that
younger voters are anxious about not being on homes. They're not.
I mean, it's the lowest home ownership in American history.
It's the lowest marriage rates in American history. It's the
lowest fertility rate in American history. And so in order
to buy a home in year when Donald Trump was
out of what came out of office cordon azillo dot com.
(03:55):
It required seventy one thousand dollars a year. Now it
requires one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year,
a fifty thousand dollars a year annual increase of what
is necessary to be able to own a home. And so, yeah,
it's a fascinating thing. Younger voters are very upset with
the status quote of the country. Some older voters are
so it's not all older voters voting huge numbers, and
(04:16):
younger voters do not vote in huge numbers.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Right, Yeah, you know I'm the opposite of what you've
been dealing with. I got no hate for that. I'm
glad to hear that. I've got a bully pulpit here.
My voice becomes louder now as a result of hearing that,
As surprising as I might find it, and just because
it doesn't apply to me doesn't mean I don't believe
you Again, Ron with Charlie Kirk, the founder and president
(04:40):
of Turning Point USA, book out Right Wing Revolution, How
to Beat the Woke and Save the West. What about
the It's very Orwellian. You know that line that's getting
quoted a lot now, and I've been quoting or Well.
Let me tell you something, Charlie. Long before it became
in vogue, it was quoting or well. Uh, but U
(05:02):
don't The first thing they'll tell you to do is
stop believing your eyes and ears. What's killing me lately.
I don't like being told that what I'm seeing are
deep fakes, edited clips. This is live. I'm watching this
live on television. That doesn't vibe for me as far As.
And maybe that's maybe you and I are stumbling on something, Charlie,
in that older people are they're sympathetic to that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Maybe there's simple thing go not only that, not only that,
pulling shows a majority of baby boomers think it's wrong
to attack Biden for his age. And many of them
I have problems, you know, mental mental acuity product and
I'm not making this up. They think that it's really
improper to say that Biden, you know, is not all there.
And so I mean again, this is why younger voters
(05:47):
are becoming more right wing and we're pro Trump. They
see this and they say, this is just outrageous, Like
we have no money, we have no prospects. You got
to shut down the whole freaking country over a lie,
you masked us, You've forced vaccines on us. A lot
of our friends killed themselves and they're isolated, and we
have to put up with this. So I mean again,
the positive is that younger voters are like waking up
to this and they say, this is just this is
(06:09):
this is a complete insult to the future that we
want for our country. But yeah, again, it's not it's
not every single baby boomer, but there's a ton of
work to be done. I think it can move in
the right direction when it all said and done. I
think that as you have properly put it, there is
no surviving this for your kids or grandkids. But again,
they the baby boomers, are the richest they've ever been.
(06:31):
I want to say that again. They are the richest
they have ever been.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Again, the new book is right Wing Revolution, How to
Beat the Woe and Save the West. We got a
forward who wrote the forward here? Who who did the blurbs?
We're back?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, the blurb money. The blurbs are like making fun
of the left. The blurbs are from like Bernie Sanders
and like quotes like that where they say, don't want
to destroy the country.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's a different way to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Get Yeah, I've done a bunch of books, and you know,
you get the last one, Tucker Carlson, the blurb and
all that. I said, you know, let's do something different,
and so we had some of the more like fierce
anti American sentiments on the back. But yeah, people can
check out the book. It's a very positive, optimistic, forward
thinking book. People can find it at forty five books
dot com. That's forty five books dot com it's becoming
(07:16):
a best in many categories. It's a really exciting book.
It was really a treat to be able to research it. Boy,
writing a book is not easy in addition to a
lot of other things that we're doing. But people can
check it out. It's bestseller, and so it's right wing Revolution.
It really lays out the blueprint of what every one
of your listeners can do, can take their agency, can
(07:38):
put it into their own hands, and so check it out.
Right Wing Revolution.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, definitely, and I'll keep banging the drama on it.
To Charlie Kirk, you're doing important. I hate to say,
you're doing great stuff, important stuff. It's the being stay thirty.
It's the being thirty that's really key to this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
My man, Well, thank you, I appreciate. I'm going to
try to stay young, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
All right, take care buddy.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
In fact,
Charlie Kirk, Welcome to the Vinie Penn Project.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I appreciate you taking the time to come on and
congratulations on all your success on the new book to
Right Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke and Save
the West. I got to tell you, I didn't realize
how young you were, Charlie. To me anyway, tragically, to me, anyway,
thirty is young. And I've said it before, I'll say
(00:26):
it again, like you're important. A thirty year old saying
the things you're saying is going to have way more
of an effect and is much more necessary to the
I've got a twenty one year old and an eighteen
year old. They're listening to you. Tragically, they're listening to
an AOC. They just can't your message, as great as
(00:49):
it is coming from a sixty five year old guy
who's lived a great it falls on deaf ears and
I believe the youth demo is the demo.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, well, thank you for that. That is the work.
It's really interesting. Younger voters are actually becoming more right
wing and more conservative, and we actually talk about that
in the book. It's a fascinating twist right now, and
we talk about that in the book a little bit
where younger voters they do not like the status quo.
The status quo means they cannot buy a home. They
(01:19):
are most depressed, suicidal, alcohol addicted, drug addicted generation history.
And you know, it's not a criticism by any means.
It's just the fact I get a lot of hate
when I say this, but baby boomers are generally okay
with the status quo. The status quo has made them
really rich, has made them a lot of money. And
now there's a lot of exceptions to that, but it's
a fascinating thing where younger voters are upset they really
(01:41):
don't own a lot of property, they're increasingly poor, but
their parents' generation is kind of saying, oh, hold on,
this country is still wealthy and terrific. Let's not change
too many things.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, it's interesting the front end of that. I
totally see. Like I said, I have a twenty one
year old and an eighteen year old. You know, I've
got two kids, first presidential election, both voting in and
they're not happy about the America they're being handed. They
take a lot of potshots at the baby boomers, me
being one of them, so I'm with you on that,
(02:10):
there's anxiety that they won't be able to buy a home,
do what they want to do for a living, afford this, that,
and the other. It was the back end that surprised
me to hear you say that there are some sedate
baby boomers who are sure things are going to be
just fine because we can't go on like this much
(02:30):
longer another four years. Honest to god, Charlie Kirk, you
don't know me from hold the Wall. You never will.
You know, maybe we'll wind up at an event together someday,
maybe we won't. I won't survive financially. I just I
can't weather that storm. And that's a.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Storm that is a true message, and we need, we need,
like Project Boomer, for you to get that message out. Again.
It's very fixable and your audience can can fact check
on that me on that and again I say that
I get so much nasty emails because people say, but
I don't feel that way, and I said, okay, that's
not the point. The point is that the status quo
candidate traditionally is the Republican where it's conservative, you know,
(03:10):
let's not change too many things. The Democrats are usually
the upheaval. Candidate usually where we're going to make major changes,
We're going to try to give a voice the voiceless.
Well that's all changed. Donald Trump has changed that. It's
fascinating something, something's happening there, right, And so yeah, look,
we talked about this in the book. Where most baby
boomers own property, Most baby boomers have a significant stock
(03:34):
position or some stock position. And it's not just that
younger voters are anxious about not being on homes. They're not.
I mean, it's the lowest home ownership in American history.
It's the lowest marriage rates in American history. It's the
lowest fertility rate in American history. And so in order
to buy a home in year when Donald Trump was
out of what came out of office cordon azillo dot com.
(03:55):
It required seventy one thousand dollars a year. Now it
requires one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year,
a fifty thousand dollars a year annual increase of what
is necessary to be able to own a home. And so, yeah,
it's a fascinating thing. Younger voters are very upset with
the status quote of the country. Some older voters are
so it's not all older voters voting huge numbers, and
(04:16):
younger voters do not vote in huge numbers.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Right, Yeah, you know I'm the opposite of what you've
been dealing with. I got no hate for that. I'm
glad to hear that. I've got a bully pulpit here.
My voice becomes louder now as a result of hearing that,
As surprising as I might find it, and just because
it doesn't apply to me doesn't mean I don't believe
you Again, Ron with Charlie Kirk, the founder and president
(04:40):
of Turning Point USA, book out Right Wing Revolution, How
to Beat the Woke and Save the West. What about
the It's very Orwellian. You know that line that's getting
quoted a lot now, and I've been quoting or Well.
Let me tell you something, Charlie. Long before it became
in vogue, it was quoting or well. Uh, but U
(05:02):
don't The first thing they'll tell you to do is
stop believing your eyes and ears. What's killing me lately.
I don't like being told that what I'm seeing are
deep fakes, edited clips. This is live. I'm watching this
live on television. That doesn't vibe for me as far As.
And maybe that's maybe you and I are stumbling on something, Charlie,
in that older people are they're sympathetic to that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Maybe there's simple thing go not only that, not only that,
pulling shows a majority of baby boomers think it's wrong
to attack Biden for his age. And many of them
I have problems, you know, mental mental acuity product and
I'm not making this up. They think that it's really
improper to say that Biden, you know, is not all there.
And so I mean again, this is why younger voters
(05:47):
are becoming more right wing and we're pro Trump. They
see this and they say, this is just outrageous, Like
we have no money, we have no prospects. You got
to shut down the whole freaking country over a lie,
you masked us, You've forced vaccines on us. A lot
of our friends killed themselves and they're isolated, and we
have to put up with this. So I mean again,
the positive is that younger voters are like waking up
to this and they say, this is just this is
(06:09):
this is a complete insult to the future that we
want for our country. But yeah, again, it's not it's
not every single baby boomer, but there's a ton of
work to be done. I think it can move in
the right direction when it all said and done. I
think that as you have properly put it, there is
no surviving this for your kids or grandkids. But again,
they the baby boomers, are the richest they've ever been.
(06:31):
I want to say that again. They are the richest
they have ever been.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Again, the new book is right Wing Revolution, How to
Beat the Woe and Save the West. We got a
forward who wrote the forward here? Who who did the blurbs?
We're back?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, the blurb money. The blurbs are like making fun
of the left. The blurbs are from like Bernie Sanders
and like quotes like that where they say, don't want
to destroy the country.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's a different way to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Get Yeah, I've done a bunch of books, and you know,
you get the last one, Tucker Carlson, the blurb and
all that. I said, you know, let's do something different,
and so we had some of the more like fierce
anti American sentiments on the back. But yeah, people can
check out the book. It's a very positive, optimistic, forward
thinking book. People can find it at forty five books
dot com. That's forty five books dot com it's becoming
(07:16):
a best in many categories. It's a really exciting book.
It was really a treat to be able to research it. Boy,
writing a book is not easy in addition to a
lot of other things that we're doing. But people can
check it out. It's bestseller, and so it's right wing Revolution.
It really lays out the blueprint of what every one
of your listeners can do, can take their agency, can
(07:38):
put it into their own hands, and so check it out.
Right Wing Revolution.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, definitely, and I'll keep banging the drama on it.
To Charlie Kirk, you're doing important. I hate to say,
you're doing great stuff, important stuff. It's the being stay thirty.
It's the being thirty that's really key to this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
My man, Well, thank you, I appreciate. I'm going to
try to stay young, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
All right, take care buddy.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
In fact,
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