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May 30, 2025 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do we have you, Chip?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Okay, honey, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Your ladies just you just woke up and your lady's
going already huh oh.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, she's up in the morning. She goes to bed
a little earlier than I do. Is out, Chips?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Enough Enough is enough. I gotta tell you this right
out of the gate. So you come into the space,
which is a great room. It's a small room, so
it's a great place to see some live rock and roll. Saturday,
June twenty one, it's a birthday show.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Chip.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Just want to let you know a little pressure.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh, I make sure I'll bring a bunch of Meshua
Kan and some Pre ninety three and some Snowpeak Ultra
pot with me.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
For all the now you were you born and raised
in Chicago. I don't remember Enough's enough being a Chicago band,
and I know my stuff, you know I was. I
was writing for Circus magazine when you guys first pop.
So that's actually where I started in my career. I
wrote for Circus, I wrote for Hit Parade or there's
a lot of bands out there in La band. You

(00:59):
know this as a Seattle band, of course, I knew
the Chicago bands. I don't know would you say enough
is enough? Yeah, Chicago band Man.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I was discovered by if you would say that's the
right way to put it, by Doc McGee, who's to
manage kiss Man, who was managing not the Crue, and
he also had bon Corpius as a matter of fact,
and he came he medicined Lake Geneva, Wisconsin and started
managing the band. But we were from Chicago. We were
recorded a place called Royal Recorders and down in Lake Senevra,

(01:29):
Wisconsin with skid Row. They were doing their record at
the same time, and so we all met discovered the band.
We did a couple of rehearsals in Chicago and it
went right on tour with bad bands and that was it.
That was it started everything off for us.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, I got a great photo with Doc McGee legend.
I mean he also had bon Jovi and he had
he managed skid Row. So that's that's probably why that
all played.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, well brother, his brother Scott managed skid Row. Doc
had us along with you said h bon Jovi and
and the rest the cats. So yeah, he was he
was ahead of his time and he was a Chicago
land himself. Yeah, and he met it's in the studio
and we gave him a couple of cassette tapes. That's
how old we are. And he got back to us
next day. He goes, I got three cassette tapes chip

(02:14):
in my car. Two of them are enoughs enough. I said, ah,
it's great. He goes, I got a friend of mine
over it at CO Records. His name is Derek Shulman
from a band called General Giant, and now he's got
his own imprint and we're looking for bands. He just
signed by Jovi and he signed Cinderella and he go listen,

(02:34):
it's great, doctor An. He hoped would be appreciated that
we didn't think anything of it, and lo and behold,
a couple weeks later he had a record deal.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's fantastic. And again the Chicago end is so interesting too,
because I know you you got a lot of love
from man Cow and I wrote for man Cow for
a little bit, and I've been doing radio now a
long time, and I wrote some bits from man Cow
back in the day, So that's interesting stuff. We overlap
in some interesting ways. He's at certain points.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Man, I'm sure you wrote a couple of great bits
for him, because he definitely has a show that was
huge here in the in the Midwest. People love what
he did. He used to he had a TV show
as well, and we'd have all the rock stars come over.
He hired me to be a sidekick.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I didn't know that yet.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, and this is a he said he would have
musicians that he couldn't get a hold of his He
helped me get the guys. So I did, like Zach
Wild on the show, or Michael Shanker, bands that he
wasn't really didn't really follow a lot, but knew about them.
And I did in Cheap Trick and we get these
cats that come on the TV show. And that was

(03:43):
a great gig because it was from from six am
to eight am every single morning, so it wasn't as
hard as doing radio when he radio got to be
there prep up at three thirty four and by the
time here here on here by five. People know how
that is. But we had all these rock stars come
in there and those those were in sindiary because we
got we'd be playing at six o'clock, seven o'clock in

(04:04):
the morning, and you got great performances and yeah, you
have fun. Tons of people found for years and I
would I would drive down there on Stephen Habla I
used to play with from Guns and Roses, and I
would drive down in the morning from my house and
Blue Island to down down Chicago the Fox Building, and
I got nineteen fifty seven porst Easter, a little convertible,

(04:25):
and i'd go down there. In the wintertime it'd be
it'd be ten degrees above, snowing outside. I'd be driving
around this little boat on wheels just to make those
shows up. Because his motto was don't call and crawling.
You did some he had. He had notebooks of stuff
that you wrote for him, and he'd a good writer. Yeah,
I seen, I've seen that. I've seen the one yield

(04:46):
that you gave him. I thought that was pretty good.
Actually it was a scientists are flocking to Chicago study
the effects of cocaine and the brand laboratory rats and
after two weeks all they found the rats on three
thousand dollars. They won't shut up. That was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
One you're an animal. Let me ask you this chip
that demo you're talking about as far as the two
or you said two demos were in DOCSCT. What when
was fly High Michelle big hit new thing were they
on there and in demo form. I'd love to hear
the demo from Fly High, Michelle.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know, we probably recorded, we had songs, you know,
we recorded everything here in this little small town called
Blue Island where I'm at right now, where basically where
Moses left to Sandels and sandals are felpy. And we
would take those songs and we would just shot them
out to anybody that would listen. And we couldn't find
anybody if no one was even paying attention to us.

(05:39):
And we had a guitar player to be at the time.
His name was Alex Kaney. He went on to a
to a group called Life, Sex and Death LSD. For
some reason, we couldn't get a bite, We couldn't get
a record deal anywhere. So we brought this other guy
in the play guitar named Derek Freego. He played on
the demos, just played a bunch of solos, three or

(06:00):
four songs for some reason long and behold a couple
of weeks aft. We sent that them out, same same band,
same songs except for the guitar solos, and we ended
up curing a deal through. You know, we had we
had hidding war that we ended up signing with ad
Co Atlantic Records, which was cool because they just signed
a CDC and UH and Bad Company, and we thought, well,

(06:22):
this might be pretty good for us. You know, yeah,
we get we'll get lucky break there. So Fly Michelle
that was the second single. First single was a new
thing MTV guy named Rick Krim down there. He was
a big fit. He loved bands like jelly Fish and
Bad Finger and he loved the pop stuff. He ended
up putting that first track out on MTV. And you know,

(06:42):
we went from having nothing. We were working jobs and
construction and stuff, breaking our resks just to pay the
electricity bill. And we went from there to a major
deal and going on on tour. Immediately we're traveling in
a Ostra Minor Wienier wagon and from there we went
right to a tour bus. So things changed a little
exponentially for us. And that was in Lady nine, but

(07:04):
it was a long time ago in the nineties. That's
when Fly Michelle came and that was the second hit
single for us. Both songs charted, both songs were in
the top one hundred. It was really good for us
and give us a real break, and more importantly, an
opportunity to go out there and reach an audience, and
but there was a lot of bands out there was
too much proct down up to man to be asked
me because you had MTV playing nothing but rock and

(07:26):
metal and we didn't. We really weren't any of that.
Most of the journalists that followed enoughs Enough thought we
were heavy metal band when we were really just a
pop band. We grew up listening to bands like Sweet
and Cheap Trick.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I was just going to say a trick. I always
felt like you had a Cheap Trick vibe. So it's great.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
You are what you eat. So you know, we loved
the Beatles. Where were kids and the stuff that was
out there, we were being lumped into. It was really
nothing that we weren't really a part of that. But
we're just grateful to be recognized. Bro.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I love that you just said that because last night,
as I was getting ready to talk to you today,
it was getting ready to prepare today's show, and I'm like,
I know I'm doing the Enough is Enough interview tomorrow.
I'm going to talk to Chip. I dug through all
my CDs. It's still all my CDs. I dumped my
cassettes and I shouldn't because they seem like they're making
a comeback now. But I was going through all my

(08:16):
CDs because I hadn't enough's enough CD from early I
want to say it was early two thousands where you
did just a great cover. It wasn't the Beatles. It
was John Lennon, unless I'm remembering it wrong. It was
Beautiful Boy or Jealous Guy. You did a grabity call.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's funny. My old manager bring up work with Doc
Making was Dock's partner does all the backstage lighting, all
the LEDs for Olympic shows. So he does Broltic Stone,
he does McCartney. He's out with Funny Fabbits right now,
does all the kicks. I go to all the shows.
I want to. It's fantastic because I'm a big fan
of all these bands. And he was high enough to

(08:58):
turn us on to some of that earlier stuff with
Paul and then the Fields back in sixty seven through
seventy when those guys are writing, their experimenting with drugs
and they they're writing the stuff back then. That White
album was incredible. We got we had a record deal
and this is just this is in twenty eighteen and

(09:19):
we put a record out called Hard Rock Night and
it's all deal songs bro from that era. So it's
you know, magical mystery Tour eleanor Rigby, and then we
did some We did Jet which was the old Wings cover.
Yeah it Cold Turk and Cold Turkey, which you know,
cheap trick recorder with Jaron Lennon before the tragedy, and

(09:39):
so there was a lot of these songs that we
wanted to celebrate. Helter Skelter, of course, one of the
first Tevy Minto songs.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
But which John was a beautiful boy or jealous guy that.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
You you were a jealous guy, but it was jealous Guy.
But if people want to check out that record, you
can get it on you know iTunes and the Apple
Play and all that good stuff. And it's called Enough's Enough,
Hard Rock Night. It's a playoff A Hard Day's Night
and Jealous Guys. Not on that one, but it's on
the covered and gold record. We've done a lot of
Beatles songs because our families would play our mothers and

(10:10):
fathers would play those songs for us if we were kids,
and it just seemed to do our into our system
and our memories and for some reason they just never
went with Those songs are timelessly they are so well written.
But we did hard rock versions of those songs, and
not many beers have done that. No, it was something
that was a real challenge person. We got permission obviously

(10:31):
from McCartney and Farringo. They signed up by they get
the money on those songs, but we get a chance
to play them every single night, and you're gonna get
them at Space that night. We're gonna play the enoughs
enough stuff, You'll get the hits fly Michelle Baby loves
You New Thing, along with some of those great Beatles songs.
So it's a oprie of nothing but hit songs, a
real celebration.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Bro Let me ask you this, Are you going to
be sitting on the on the merch table on Saturday
twenty June twenty First.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Of course, I'll listen. I went to that Motley Cruez
Stadium tour with a Poison che in the Black Hearts
Flat because we've tour, We've toured in the pass with
all those bands, and I was backstage and I've seen
a line outside of it was hundreds of people waiting
to get autographs from or to get a picture with
Motley Crue. They charged three thousand dollars take it at

(11:17):
one picture with them there and they're people were like cattle.
We come in there and get a picture, and they would,
and then they kick you out and the next person
comes in there. Enough enough shows up every night it's free.
You get a chance, you want to hang out, get
a picture. I'm just signed some some vinyl for you
or some CDs. That's what we do at the end
of the day, and that's what most bands should do.
We shouldn't be signing stuff and charging the fans for that. Now,

(11:40):
if your ace freely and we've tour with ACE for years,
it's pretty big. When you're with the ear the ace
man and he's got five hundred people at his tour
of bus trying to get pictures. Maybe you're gonna sign
a little bit there because it's very time consuming. But
for the most part, I think bands, it's part of
the deal. You paid the ticket to see you work
for your ass off to comes to see that show.

(12:01):
It wouldn't it be nice to meet the band because
I know when I was a young kid and I
went to go see bands, I wasn't allowed to do that.
I've seen Queen concerts four times with Freddie Mercury Post.
I got was twenty feet away with Freddy giving me
the peace sign, so I took that and I still
talk about it after all these years. So it's important,
I think, for the bands to be to recognize the
people that are out there and understand that we're all

(12:22):
of us together and let's celebrate rock and roll, heavy
metal the right way free.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
This is gonna be a great night Saturday, June twenty
one at the Space. Enough is enough, Chip. I appreciate
you coming on today. You're a wild You're as wild
as ever, and I can't wait to see you at
the show.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Who cares? Who drives the bus. Let's get to the picnic, bro,
make sure everybody shows up there. It's to be a
great show. Don't know what We're gonna come back there again.
So it's one and done. It's gonna be one set
only because enough's enough.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I love it, man. We'll see you then.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Happy birthday, brother, Thanks for man.
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