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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Vinny fishermen here in Connecticut, I compete on a
national tour in bass fishing tournaments. I do a guiding
trips here in Connecticut. Take clients out, teach them how
to fish, bring the youth out on the water, get
them exposed to fishing and into the outdoors. Kneka River
is a phenomenal fishery to the tidle fishery. So you
(00:20):
have down near Long Island Town, it's saltwater. As you
move up the river becomes brackish, and then as you
get further north and into the back of the creeks
and the different streams and rivers off the Connectut River,
there's incredible bass fishing for freshwater, yeah fish, freshwater fishing
for large mouth bass, smallmouth bass, pirche walleye, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I got I got a buddy who's posting photos
every year of the bat. I just never know where
he goes, but you know, opening day he's up, he's
he holds up some big boys in his photos. Uh So,
I mean, I'm well aware of that, but this spray
and and maybe I should pluralize that though. First one
that comes to mind for me and watching all of
(01:02):
the content that you've shared with me, is this dye
quat that's being sprayed and you know when you see
you know, one article was done on Parkinson's risk higher
for those living cloakse to a golf course. Is the
story that you sent me at one point, I'm assuming
it's the same thing you said folks living within six
miles of sprayed areas have a higher rate of it.
(01:25):
Just be that's just it being in the air.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It gets it's spread, it travels, you know, when it
you get run off when it rains, and it moves around.
So people may walk their dogs daily near golf forts
or near these rivers and lakes and streams. They may
use themselves in their own yard, you know, or their
own you know, around their own docks that are on
(01:49):
the river. Yeah, it's the from what I'm gathering, you know,
it's not necessarily like a one off thing, like you're
exposed to it instant, bad things happen.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You have to absorb the long term expence over a
period of Sure.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
It was exposure day after day, and there's a there's
there's a lot of studies showing too. By comparing this
to like DDT back in the nineties when the bald
eagle was going to extinct. D d T was creating
uh reproductive issues for the bald eagle where the eggshell
was like extra thin and it was one incubate the
(02:28):
the baby bird. So now there's studies relating diquot and
these other chemicals. And it's not just dikewise. A lot
of these companies that are Spring day Quot or Spring
the Rivers, lakes and streams, they're using a like a
proprietary blend that they've concocted themselves. So they may have
(02:49):
round Up dat Florida and other types of chemicals.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That round up is still on the market. Man, That
round Up is still on the after all those stories.
I used round up for years. Yeah, you know it's
an effective weed killer. And that's ultimately what we were
talking about here, right, Dave. I watched some of the
Chris Webby content and he did a really good job
of making it clear to me, and he's like, look,
(03:16):
so the goal here is they spray because what was
it from Japan? There's something growing. I don't know how
Connecticut land is is churning out this dangerous plant or
weed from what was it? China? Or from Asia, and yeah,
(03:36):
we got to spray that and kill it. But the
collateral damage is our fish will bathe in this, die
from this, you'll eat it, you'll swim in it, et cetera,
et cetera. Am I getting it right?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah? It to a point. Well, right now, Hydrilla is
the flavor of the week for the people who don't
like grass in their water. And the big picture here
is a lot of people who have houses on lakes
and rivers and streams. They want a swimming pool. They
want a crystal clear swimming pool with nothing in it.
They don't want to feel grass on their legs when
(04:09):
they go swimming or on their feet, tickling their feet
whether they walking around in the water. But like it's
been milk, your Asian milfoil is the one you're referring
to from that came from Asia.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
As poisonous hot topic. It's not poisonous. You're just saying
it's unseemly, it's unsightly, we don't want it. It's not
that it's poisonous.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
No, it's not poisonous at all.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There's no foil the water.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
There's hydrilla. There's several species of plants that you know,
certain stakeholders on these fisheries want to get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You have.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Issue spraying it because you're going to remove the habitat
for the fish and all types of animals, frogs, turtles, crustaceans,
they're all losing habitat to survive in you. When you
remove the weeds or the grass or the plant life
with these chemicals, you're also removing the native species of plants,
(05:14):
and they say it doesn't target those, but this year
they passed the HP five oh one three to add
the native species of plants to the invasive species list.
So when they die, they're like, oh, well, look we
did a good job here. We got rid of everything.
So you lose the habitat. And when the fish die off,
(05:34):
you know, we've called called deep when there's been fish
kills on various lakes throughout the state, Lake Lilanona for
one that's in a new Town brook Field area, and
they don't respond. The fish kills happen like a bird
(05:55):
made the dead fish, and then the bird dies, then
coyote eats the dead than the coyote guys, so you
have like this chain reaction of death.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Where are the environmentalists Dave, And I mean, and all
I hear out of Hartford is it's eco friendly. This
this faux concern for nothing, scarce of politician more than
those It's been my experience anyway. But obviously they're able
to ignore them on this one.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, there are many environmental groups. Friends of the Lake,
that's an association regarding lakes door. They've been champion healthy,
healthy lake for decades. They've brought a lot of documentation
and studies to the state and to these the politicians
and other people at the DP, and it's just been ignored.
(06:42):
And look at Chris Webbie. He posted this petition, he
brought brought it to the forefront. He's great, got mainstream
attention this year finally, and he's labeled a conspiracy theorists.
It's like I'm on the water day after day, over
two hundred days a year now, you know, worrying about
Parkinson's if I'm going to develop that because I'm exposed
(07:04):
to these chemicals NonStop, because I'm taking people fishing and
exposing clients to this.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
This is you know, worrisome and rom You're hearing a
guy by the name of Dave Miller right now, Dave
Miller Fishing, a known fisherman all throughout Connecticut. And really
it's a very serious issue. I hate to do what
I so often do here on the project and refer
to movies, especially when I get on a kick where
I'm referring to one often because I watched it again recently.
(07:33):
But this is very Aaron Brockovich. I mean, I don't
know if you if how well you remember that, David.
It's really pertinent to this issue because it was a
chemical spray. Kids began years later and a company didn't
want to own up to It's very much what round up.
They started paying out to families. They conceded to the
fact that their stuff is poisonous and killing, and yet
(07:56):
they're still on the market. I don't know how there's
going to be the fatalities here, if not definitely illness here.
I saw where you said Lilanona was sprayed right before
fourth of July, you know, and what I found really interesting.
You're like, then, no signage, no public notification. No, that's
the least we could ask for, is hey, headstop on
(08:17):
this day?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, you know, the companies that do the spring they're
required by law. Two. Well, let me back up a second,
there's a loophole in the laws in Connecticut where if
a company applies for a permit to do one of
these pesticide applications, if it's not approved or reviewed within
twenty four hours, it's deemed approved and they get an
automatic email sent to them like, hey, the permit's approved,
(08:40):
so there's no overlooking of the actual permit before they
even get approved. Then you have an issue where these
companies that are doing the springs, they don't post the signage,
they don't notify the public. They're supposed to hand notify,
whether it's knock on the door or tag the door
of people who live on the actual water, like the
waterfront property residents. They're supposed to post that boat ramps,
(09:03):
boat launches, marinas. They fail to do so. Then they
also to make their job look better, they come out with,
you know, giant drums of chemicals and instead of just
spraying the one area that was asked for by the client,
whether it's just around their dock or something, they spray
the entire shoreline and just burn up all the chemicals
(09:24):
and then all the grass sides. And then that's the
other issue. You're you're they're spray. They're over spraying, so
it's killing the habitat. And that's where I'm getting frustrated,
because we're losing so much habitat and it's really hurting
the fishing and it's hurting the fishing industry. Here in Connection,
I'm seeing it first hand. I'm experiencing tackle shops are
shutting their doors. Sales are way down, you know. They
(09:47):
they did this beautiful steel Point for best pro shops
and in the process they're desperring the fisheries.
Hey, Vinny fishermen here in Connecticut, I compete on a
national tour in bass fishing tournaments. I do a guiding
trips here in Connecticut. Take clients out, teach them how
to fish, bring the youth out on the water, get
them exposed to fishing and into the outdoors. Kneka River
is a phenomenal fishery to the tidle fishery. So you
(00:20):
have down near Long Island Town, it's saltwater. As you
move up the river becomes brackish, and then as you
get further north and into the back of the creeks
and the different streams and rivers off the Connectut River,
there's incredible bass fishing for freshwater, yeah fish, freshwater fishing
for large mouth bass, smallmouth bass, pirche walleye, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I got I got a buddy who's posting photos
every year of the bat. I just never know where
he goes, but you know, opening day he's up, he's
he holds up some big boys in his photos. Uh So,
I mean, I'm well aware of that, but this spray
and and maybe I should pluralize that though. First one
that comes to mind for me and watching all of
(01:02):
the content that you've shared with me, is this dye
quat that's being sprayed and you know when you see
you know, one article was done on Parkinson's risk higher
for those living cloakse to a golf course. Is the
story that you sent me at one point, I'm assuming
it's the same thing you said folks living within six
miles of sprayed areas have a higher rate of it.
(01:25):
Just be that's just it being in the air.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It gets it's spread, it travels, you know, when it
you get run off when it rains, and it moves around.
So people may walk their dogs daily near golf forts
or near these rivers and lakes and streams. They may
use themselves in their own yard, you know, or their
own you know, around their own docks that are on
(01:49):
the river. Yeah, it's the from what I'm gathering, you know,
it's not necessarily like a one off thing, like you're
exposed to it instant, bad things happen.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You have to absorb the long term expence over a
period of Sure.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
It was exposure day after day, and there's a there's
there's a lot of studies showing too. By comparing this
to like DDT back in the nineties when the bald
eagle was going to extinct. D d T was creating
uh reproductive issues for the bald eagle where the eggshell
was like extra thin and it was one incubate the
(02:28):
the baby bird. So now there's studies relating diquot and
these other chemicals. And it's not just dikewise. A lot
of these companies that are Spring day Quot or Spring
the Rivers, lakes and streams, they're using a like a
proprietary blend that they've concocted themselves. So they may have
(02:49):
round Up dat Florida and other types of chemicals.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That round up is still on the market. Man, That
round Up is still on the after all those stories.
I used round up for years. Yeah, you know it's
an effective weed killer. And that's ultimately what we were
talking about here, right, Dave. I watched some of the
Chris Webby content and he did a really good job
of making it clear to me, and he's like, look,
(03:16):
so the goal here is they spray because what was
it from Japan? There's something growing. I don't know how
Connecticut land is is churning out this dangerous plant or
weed from what was it? China? Or from Asia, and yeah,
(03:36):
we got to spray that and kill it. But the
collateral damage is our fish will bathe in this, die
from this, you'll eat it, you'll swim in it, et cetera,
et cetera. Am I getting it right?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah? It to a point. Well, right now, Hydrilla is
the flavor of the week for the people who don't
like grass in their water. And the big picture here
is a lot of people who have houses on lakes
and rivers and streams. They want a swimming pool. They
want a crystal clear swimming pool with nothing in it.
They don't want to feel grass on their legs when
(04:09):
they go swimming or on their feet, tickling their feet
whether they walking around in the water. But like it's
been milk, your Asian milfoil is the one you're referring
to from that came from Asia.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
As poisonous hot topic. It's not poisonous. You're just saying
it's unseemly, it's unsightly, we don't want it. It's not
that it's poisonous.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
No, it's not poisonous at all.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There's no foil the water.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
There's hydrilla. There's several species of plants that you know,
certain stakeholders on these fisheries want to get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You have.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Issue spraying it because you're going to remove the habitat
for the fish and all types of animals, frogs, turtles, crustaceans,
they're all losing habitat to survive in you. When you
remove the weeds or the grass or the plant life
with these chemicals, you're also removing the native species of plants,
(05:14):
and they say it doesn't target those, but this year
they passed the HP five oh one three to add
the native species of plants to the invasive species list.
So when they die, they're like, oh, well, look we
did a good job here. We got rid of everything.
So you lose the habitat. And when the fish die off,
(05:34):
you know, we've called called deep when there's been fish
kills on various lakes throughout the state, Lake Lilanona for
one that's in a new Town brook Field area, and
they don't respond. The fish kills happen like a bird
(05:55):
made the dead fish, and then the bird dies, then
coyote eats the dead than the coyote guys, so you
have like this chain reaction of death.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Where are the environmentalists Dave, And I mean, and all
I hear out of Hartford is it's eco friendly. This
this faux concern for nothing, scarce of politician more than
those It's been my experience anyway. But obviously they're able
to ignore them on this one.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, there are many environmental groups. Friends of the Lake,
that's an association regarding lakes door. They've been champion healthy,
healthy lake for decades. They've brought a lot of documentation
and studies to the state and to these the politicians
and other people at the DP, and it's just been ignored.
(06:42):
And look at Chris Webbie. He posted this petition, he
brought brought it to the forefront. He's great, got mainstream
attention this year finally, and he's labeled a conspiracy theorists.
It's like I'm on the water day after day, over
two hundred days a year now, you know, worrying about
Parkinson's if I'm going to develop that because I'm exposed
(07:04):
to these chemicals NonStop, because I'm taking people fishing and
exposing clients to this.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
This is you know, worrisome and rom You're hearing a
guy by the name of Dave Miller right now, Dave
Miller Fishing, a known fisherman all throughout Connecticut. And really
it's a very serious issue. I hate to do what
I so often do here on the project and refer
to movies, especially when I get on a kick where
I'm referring to one often because I watched it again recently.
(07:33):
But this is very Aaron Brockovich. I mean, I don't
know if you if how well you remember that, David.
It's really pertinent to this issue because it was a
chemical spray. Kids began years later and a company didn't
want to own up to It's very much what round up.
They started paying out to families. They conceded to the
fact that their stuff is poisonous and killing, and yet
(07:56):
they're still on the market. I don't know how there's
going to be the fatalities here, if not definitely illness here.
I saw where you said Lilanona was sprayed right before
fourth of July, you know, and what I found really interesting.
You're like, then, no signage, no public notification. No, that's
the least we could ask for, is hey, headstop on
(08:17):
this day?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, you know, the companies that do the spring they're
required by law. Two. Well, let me back up a second,
there's a loophole in the laws in Connecticut where if
a company applies for a permit to do one of
these pesticide applications, if it's not approved or reviewed within
twenty four hours, it's deemed approved and they get an
automatic email sent to them like, hey, the permit's approved,
(08:40):
so there's no overlooking of the actual permit before they
even get approved. Then you have an issue where these
companies that are doing the springs, they don't post the signage,
they don't notify the public. They're supposed to hand notify,
whether it's knock on the door or tag the door
of people who live on the actual water, like the
waterfront property residents. They're supposed to post that boat ramps,
(09:03):
boat launches, marinas. They fail to do so. Then they
also to make their job look better, they come out with,
you know, giant drums of chemicals and instead of just
spraying the one area that was asked for by the client,
whether it's just around their dock or something, they spray
the entire shoreline and just burn up all the chemicals
(09:24):
and then all the grass sides. And then that's the
other issue. You're you're they're spray. They're over spraying, so
it's killing the habitat. And that's where I'm getting frustrated,
because we're losing so much habitat and it's really hurting
the fishing and it's hurting the fishing industry. Here in Connection,
I'm seeing it first hand. I'm experiencing tackle shops are
shutting their doors. Sales are way down, you know. They
(09:47):
they did this beautiful steel Point for best pro shops
and in the process they're desperring the fisheries.
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