Diabetes Reversal App

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Want to welcome to the show. Tim Keller, the founder
of US Diabetes Care, great on this morning. I appreciate
you taking the time to come on, you know, and
the timing is really interesting in a lot of ways.
Just had some blood work done myself, to which my
doctor was like, you know, words came up. They never
came up before. Cholesterol never came I'm going to be

(00:23):
fifty eight in a couple of weeks. Cholesterol. Diabetes was
in there. Made me very nervous. He's like, you know,
let's start watching and let's start maybe lose a little.
And then I get this email, Diabetes not a life sentence.
We're here to prove it from diagnosis to reversal and
ninety percent success lifestyle program. Now tell me about this

(00:47):
new app.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, So basically, I've proven track record on a clinical level.
We started a lifestyle education platform about twelve years ago,
vetted out new center in East Tennessee six years ago,
and we've you know, once people complete and finish our
education series and this is all about peer education and diabetes. Uh.

(01:11):
We've been able to reverse ninety of type two, type
three diabetics to lifestyle medicine and the data is a
little skewed from the standpoint that the only people that
are in that data poor are people that actually do
the lifestyle medicine education, complete the education series, that are
taking lifestyle medicine serious. So diabetes, the truth about diabetes

(01:34):
is that the diagnosis that comes from Western eis medicines.
Once a diabetic, always a diabetic. You're not gonna be
able to stop this, to reverse this, It's going to
be something that you're gonna have to manage. That's not true.
Insulin resistance lives in the cells, starts in the cells
before you, long before you become a diabetic. The cells
live in the muscles that upload the glucagon from the liver.

(01:58):
That's all those cells can be act absolutely cleaned out
and diabetes can be reversed. Instance, once you fix into resistance,
all the other stuff goes away. Your high buff fresh,
your clusterol, your diabetes. Diabetes Type one and two are sorry,
Type two and three are just a symptom of installment resistance.
So the main thing of lifestyle is we're fixing that

(02:20):
instant resistance and you can do it too.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
What is the name of the app, sir.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, the app is US Diabetes Care Education. You can
get it on the Apple and Android stores, and you
also can go to us diabetescare dot com and there
there's a learn more tab that you can hit and
purchase the app from there as well. Yeah, anyone that

(02:47):
goes to the website, I which suggests when they hit
the learn more tabs actually learn, you know, read that
page and tell them everything that's in the app. And
we educate way more than just what you put in
your mouth. We educate on oxidative stress, we educate on
brain health, we educate on the differences between healthy and
bad facts. I mean, there's a lot of things that

(03:08):
we educate on, which is you know, education is key, right.
If you don't educate your mind, you're not you're not
gonna be able to fix anything in your body.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Sure, to that end, I'd like to be educated right now.
You had mentioned an interesting term to me to my
listeners as well. A couple of minutes back. You said
lifestyle medicine a couple of times. Give me some examples
what lifestyle medicine is.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Our example, why style medicine is from low Melinda. Right. So,
our our medical director, doctor Daniel Castroll, has an internis
degree in medicine. Right, so he's an internist, but you know,
he was trained in the westernized medicine. You know, once
a dibect always a diabetic. When he went and got
a secondary degree from Low Melinda, which is a you know,

(03:54):
lifestyle university in California, they're only they're the only blue
zone area in the United States, he was able to
learn facts about lifestyle medicine and that you know, basically
can heal all disease states And you know, obviously our
passions diabetes, but lifestyle medicine is basically, you know, our

(04:15):
program of lifestyle medicine is basically a plant based lifestyle
of eating. Now, I'm not telling people that they can't
have a piece of meat anymore. It's not what I'm saying.
But I'm saying that people need to get a lot
more fruits and vegetables in their their body. They need
to get drink a lot more water. No one's hydrated anymore.
People think mountain dew and sweet seas water. You got

(04:36):
to get a lot more fiber. You have to exercise, right,
I mean, exercise is the most important thing that people
can be doing. And I'm not saying go out run
a marathon. But people got to start getting at least
ten thousand steps a day in if they can.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I can't help very important. I can't help but laugh
at the that you used mountain dew. Mountain dew is
not water, Mountain dew is I'm not much of a
soda soda guy, but mountain two is. Mountain dew is
my jam. And I've got a daughter who polices what
she has said for a while now that I don't hydrate,

(05:12):
you know, it's just nothing like a daughter's love, right,
And she's like, you gotta hydrate way better than you are.
You know, you could be a little sluggish. And whenever
she's it's like the roles are reversed. I will guzzle
a mountain dew behind her back at a movie theater
because she just and she's often said, she doesn't say
mountain dew isn't water, but she says something wildly close

(05:34):
to that.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah. Well, you know what I call them mousa babes, right,
I mean, they're normally the women in our life are
trying to take care of us stubborn men that we
don't listen or do anything that we're supposed to be
doing for our health. And you know what, I put
my hat off to you for going and getting blood
work and doing what you're supposed to do, because I
can tell you a lot of men don't. Yeah, and
by the time they lay instant resistance or diabetics, I'm

(05:59):
gonna right now, two and a half of four Americans,
in my opinion, are diabetic. The statistics that are skewed
because they're only Medicare Medicaid numbers. They're not giving the
private pay commercial and private pay or self pay insured.
So my opinion, two and a half of four adult
Americans are diabetic because I don't believe in pre diabetes.

(06:22):
They say pre diabetic, but I tell people you're not
pre pregnant. Either your diabetic or you're not. I mean
they're so that whole pre diabetes thing is kind of
a mystery to me. I think it's a way for
them to sell more drugs. To be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, yeah, and I wanted to speak to that too.
It's you're going to find this interesting. And again, when
I'm with Tim Keller, healthcare and lifestyle analyst, founder of
US Diabetes Care, I'll make sure I post a link too.
After this conversation is done. There is a new app
that helps reverse diabetes. You know. Interestingly enough, I hadn't

(06:56):
gotten blood work, and I don't want to say hell,
it had been a long time. And it was a
pharmacist who forced the issue because I rail against a
big pharma here on my show off and I think
one of our biggest problems in America is big farm
I think they run the show in ways that would

(07:18):
shock people even more than we already know. But I
had gone into refill a subscription prescription, excuse me, and
the pharmacist at like my Walgreens, he gave my doctor
a hard time and said, you just keep refilling this

(07:39):
when's the last time you actually saw this patient. He
had come from a state where that was law. He
could do that, he could say that, he could force that.
So my doctor replied, this is Connecticut. Now you don't know,
but he was got tired from butting heads with the pharmacists,
apologized to me and said, you're gonna have to come
in and see me before we could refill this prescription. Now,

(08:03):
I gotta tell you, I thought I thought it was
I was fine that the pharmacist was flagging something because
I think too many people stand in long, long lines
at the fur their med So I was fine with
somebody saying you should how about you see this patient
before we continue with the constant refills. But at the
same time, I hear you when you say big pharma

(08:24):
doesn't want people to know about this, this app that
might help it because they want you on medication. They're
big dollars. There nothing like a pharmaceutical rep in America.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well no, And the thing is is, you know, that's
the thing we laugh about, and it's not really funny,
but we laughed just from behind the scenes of the beautiful,
big farmer industry that's making so much money off the
back of people being sick. There's no money in a care.
They don't want people to be healthy. There's no there's

(08:57):
no money again and being healthy. So I said, I'll
be a martyr. And that's what we laugh about. I'll
be a martyr for diabetes if this app takes off
and people get in behind lifestyle medicine because big farm
right now, I'm not even making a ripple in their ocean,
but the minute I do, they'll say, oh, here's this
usibe's care here and what are they doing next? Thing

(09:18):
you know two things are gonna happen either. Either they'll
take me out, are they'll come try to buy my
company and shelf me.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
So, and I've seen them do it all right. I've
been in the industry thirty six years. I've seen them
do this, okay, over and over again. And so you know, hey,
what happened to that great drug that they came out,
or hey what happened to that lifestyle plant? Hey what
happened to Well, big farmer comes and buys the shelves
and then they don't use you anymore. They don't want
anyone cutting into the profits.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, yeah, hear of the interestingly. And I mean the
argument could be, you know, don't sell not to you,
of course, but people cave the dollars. They've got the dollars.
They were probably paydays. They couldn't resist, and they probably
even knew what they were providing was going to be shelved.
But Big Farma came along with a big number, and

(10:06):
they're like, well all right, then, you know, I could
only want to do good for so long. Temptation.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, well, they're gonna have to come Yeah, they're gonna
have to come through. Whether a matter of fact, I
don't even think I would sell a big farmer. I
would just hold out until the right purchaser came along.
And believe me, they're out there. There's there's the right
you know, if if there is an acqui acquisition down
the road, there's the right partners. You don't have to
create cave in the big pharma. You know what, there's
only so much money. How much money does a man need.

(10:36):
I'm selling this app for really cheap a year to
change your life, a very little bit of money to
change your lifestyle and educate yourself about lifestyle. This is
about money for me. This is about a passion around
helping diabetics so they don't have to end up with
in stage of diabetes. With it comes with all kinds
of bad things, amputation, blindness, get me, failure. Yeah, I mean,

(10:58):
what do you want? What do you want? I mean, stanton,
If you don't take you know, that's why I tell
people they don't take care of their diabetes and they
want to take it, you know lightly, it'll take care
of you and that's a guaranteed fact.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah. What I think is the most powerful word used
here is reverse. This new app that helps reverse it.
So you could already be in the throes of it,
and this is about reversing it. That word works on
me a lot, and like TikTok shop for a lot
of the stuff that comes up, and they're in all
these other social media places, but it's US Diabetes Care.

(11:32):
Make sure I post all the information and there's going
to be much more coming down about big pharma and
some mob activity is the only way you it can
really be described. A big story about to break on
that probably this week. But Tim Keller, I appreciate you
taking the time