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September 22, 2025 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just a few miles from here.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Two years ago, at America Fest twenty twenty three, Charlie
delivered a speech on stage for our TPUSA Faith event.
Charlie loves speaking off the cuff. He's very good event
without a script, so I personally didn't.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Know what he was going to say, and what he chose.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
To speak about that day was his submission to the
will of God. He quoted one of his favorite Bible verses,
Isaiah chapter six, verse eight, Here I am Lord, send me.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
After Charlie finished, I met him.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Backstage and I spoke to him, and I'll never forget this,
I said, Charlie, baby, please talk to me next time
for you say that statement, because when you say something
like that, there is so much power in that verse.

(01:12):
When you say, here, I am Lord, use me.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
God will take you up on that. And he did.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
God accepted that total surrender from my husband and then
called him to his side. More than anything, Charlie wanted
to do, not his will but God's will. And over
these past eleven days, through all the pain, never before

(01:45):
have I found as much comfort as I now do
in the.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Words of our Lord's prayer that I will be.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Done God's love was revealed to me on the very
day my husband was murdered. On the afternoon of September tenth,

(02:19):
I arrived at a Utah hospital to do the unthinkable,
to look directly at my husband's murdered body. I saw
the wound that ended his life. I felt everything you
would expect to feel. I felt shock, I felt poor.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
And a level of.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Heartache that I didn't even know existed.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
But there was something else too and death.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I could see the man that I love. I saw
the one single gray hair on the side of his head.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Which I never told him about. Now he knows. Sorry, baby,
telling you now that never told him. I didn't want to.
I also saw this. I also saw on his lips.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
The faintest smile, and that told me something important.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
It revealed to me.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
A great mercy from God.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
In this tragedy.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
When I saw that, it told me Charlie didn't suffer.
Even the doctor told me it was something so instant
that even even if Charlie had been shot in the
operating room, it's itself, nothing.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Could have been done.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
There was no fane, there's no fear, no agony. One
moment Charlie was doing what he loved arguing and debating
on campus, fighting for the gospel truth.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Notice that when she referenced going to the hospital that
she described his body as his murdered body, because the
press just wants to keep talking about his dead body
and Charlie Kirk's death as opposed to Charlie Kirk's murder

(04:49):
and his murdered But I think she and I are
on the same page as far, at the very least,
as far as let's not forget that this was murder,
because it almost comes across as intentional to me sometimes
when I read some articles that come to me, and
it's always Charlie Kirk's death, the end of Charlie Kirk's murder.

(05:14):
Why would we call it anything other than that assassination?
Why would he use any word other than that? So
I felt as if she was because that's it was
an interesting structure as I looked at his murdered body.
You know, that's not the way you would often say it.
She's I believe she's, and not even all that subtly

(05:36):
making sure we were no murder, even while she might
be at the most beautiful piece with it. How's that
outset there actually saying? You know, you spoke off the
cuff today, you said, I'm here, you want me to
use me. That's a that's a powerful one. He'll take

(05:56):
you up on that, and he did. That's quite something.
And one of the biggest problems here not we're not
really zeroing in on it as much as I think
we should be here, and it's because God has been
removed from so many places. The fact that this guy
was rising to such a stature and becoming such a

(06:20):
prominent figure and quoted scripture so much that bugged people
out because God's been taken out of everywhere. It unearthed them.
But we are a nation full of the secular, the atheists.
And this isn't me throwing shade on anyone anywhere. But

(06:42):
I believe what this guy was. You don't want to
bring up a Joel Austin, who actually has been on
this show a few times too, because with his super church,
you know, that's it's like a different world altogether, and
that's a world you could avoid. Charlie Kirk was becoming unavoidable.
Charlie Kirk was becoming mainstream
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