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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Vinny Hey Nne for words. I never
thought i'd say in my life. Evil Dead in concert.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Isn't it beautiful?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I mean, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Huge fan of the series. Bruce Campbell's my boy. I've
got a great Bruce Campbell's story. But I don't know
how you guys are making this one work.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Man, it's this, It's this chaotic combination of strings and screens.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, yeah, because you're not Hare Nightmare before Christmas Batman.
I mean this, Danny Elfman, we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We know the music.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I can't really think of a score a very familiar
score attached to the Evil Dead films, which are now
back and better than ever.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Too.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Absolutely, you know, Joe Luduka is a great friend of
ours and this was his first score, and really, when
you're watching the film, the score that he put together
is really focused on raising the psychological tension of the
scene and in the room and when you have an
(01:07):
opportunity to sit down in the theater, and just like Labyrinth,
most people have never heard this score on anything but
their speakers. And I'm telling you, when you're sitting down
in the theater and this string and synth and percussion
ensemble gets to be right there in your face. Oh baby,
(01:29):
does it pack a punch?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I mean I would imagine, how does it?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So the music is going to be accompanying the film
at College Street. I want to make sure I got
this right too. It looks like the date got moved.
It got moved from September twenty seventh to the twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Third, that's right. Yeah, just want to make sure the
prestation reached out and they they needed to move the
date and that worked for us. So we did move
the date.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So you'll be why the movie and and there'll just
be a live orchestra the entire stretch of the film, right, which,
if I'm not if I'm remembering.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Right, John, fairly short, right, eighty some odd minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, it's not a super long film, but the ensemble
will be up there the whole time, raising the tension
and bringing, you know, bringing, helping to outline the scare factor.
These scenes really really pop a lot harder when that
music is just blaring.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah. Well, I got to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know, hats off to you and and everybody at
blank ink, black Ink, excuse me, black Ink Presents, because
you know, really hot right now are classic movies from
the from the old days. They come through, they tour
the country and you'll get one of the stars from
the film to do a Q and A afterwards, and
it's very cool, you know. And I felt the same
(02:56):
thing about us all right.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Now. Another new thing is.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
We'll bring through classic movie, even a cult classic sometimes
and live orchestra to a.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Company.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yet but you guys, it's like you've you've got a
lock on all of them.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I mean, we're very fortunate that we were one
of the very first companies to really invest our time
and energy in this space, you know, starting all the
way back in like twenty thirteen when these types of
productions were incredibly rare, and now to be one of
the companies that is continually you know, changing the model
(03:33):
and remolding how we get to experience some of these films,
you know, because things like Nightmare Before Christmas or Batman,
you know, those are huge scores, and of course they're
phenomenal films and they go out and they play with
the country's top orchestras. But stuff like Evil Dead is
(03:54):
never going to go to an orchestra, you know, right,
But that doesn't mean that there isn't an norm terminus
fan base and a bunch of people that just want
to like hang and celebrate it and where our favorite
ash Cause plays or Dead Eite looks and come out
and hang and really get together around an evening of horror.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh absolutely. When I told my nineteen year old my
son about this, he flipped out so excited, especially because
and are you noticing that too, Because this is a
pretty ambitious tour you're doing, you know, September in October,
that's prime real estate to see Evil Dead in concert
if you want to get your Halloween on. Is there
(04:38):
a difference between you know, doing the shows in the
fall versus the spring turnout wise or maybe not, but
they're probably elevated at the very least excitement.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wise, they're elevated. I think that this content is a
little bit more prominent in the psyche of the ticket holder.
You know, horror f aren't typically casuals. Meaning if there's
a great horror film or a great horror experience, I
think a lot of horror fans would come out to
(05:09):
it year round. But when you know, taking it to
market and working with these venues and working with these promoters,
there was an elevated desire to try and land it
in the bread basket of celebrating, you know, around Halloween,
around horror time, and looking at it as you know,
(05:31):
something that you could go out and celebrate while you know,
we're in like the mainstream of celebrating, right.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And I know you and I talked last time around
too about people showing up dressed as characters from Labyrinth.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I don't think you can.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I don't think you can really do that with Evil Dead, can't.
I mean you could come listen, ladies and gentlemen. You
can come with a toy chainsaw maybe right, But I
mean I don't know, can you pull off costumes for
Evil Dead? Because that is a lot of the fun
es actually during the Halloween season, but not necessary either.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Not necessary, But I think that there is a lot
of opportunity to come out as a dead eye or.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know, as oh the way, what am I thinking? Sure?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You know, and I think that that's like part of
the fun. Or just come with like, you know, your
favorite prosthetic wound or you know, boy chain saw no
boomsticks though, no boomstick.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, I gotta say for you you just said ash
Ash is a great Haro. You know, hats off to
Campbell for I hesitate to say milking that for because
I don't think that's what it was. But I mean,
he just had the series that lasted for a good
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He's you know.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That that characters lasted a lot longer than probably he
even thought he would. He came to town for a screening
in New Haven, blockover from where you're going to be
with College Street for this show on September twenty third,
Evil Dead in concert and he did a Q and
A after a screening of a fairly new movie of his.
But this is about twenty years ago, and we were
(07:04):
looking for a new Bond at the time, just like
we are now. You know, everybody's wondering who the new
James Bond is going to be at I thrust my
hand in there this before Daniel Craig, and he said
you right over there, you know, and he's got that
dry sense of humor, and I said, why aren't you
accepting the offer to be the next James Bond?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And it did, it brought it brought the house down.
But he made just such a.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Typical Bruce Campbell expression of I don't even really know
what that means. I'm not being offered that role, but
everybody else kind of got the joke, like ash as
as James Bond would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It would definitely be a unique pivot for the franchise.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yes, now I wanted to ask you this too, And
again we are on with John Kinsner, who's just plays
a key role in all of these classic films, getting
the floor orchestra treatment. And this is a big tour
if I'm remembering correctly. Last time I let you go,
(08:10):
I said what's your dream movie?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So for a second I was thinking, I think this
is it? But no, it was like a weird jit
was it was?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Was it Jim Henson movie? What what is your your
dream one?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No? The dream one like my ultimate Mount Everett dream
film that will probably never get done for a bajillion
different reasons. But it was Tron Legacy and concert with
Daft Punk huh.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
With Wow, geez, you even have who you're gonna play?
I don't. I didn't remember that. Could you have given
a different answer last time? Or is that is that
your go to answer?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No? I mean that when when when anybody asked me,
like what is the Pinnacle one? But then I have
a bunch of others. You know, there's you know, I'd
love to do a Lost Boy this one, you know,
I'd love to do uh. And you know, there has
been some conversation around Dark Crystal.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That might have been it. John, I think it was
Dark Crystal maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah. I mean, I think that is definitely deserving of
its flowers and its opportunity to be out in the
market and for people to come and celebrate it and
celebrate the music and the characters. You know, I'm a big,
clearly big Jim Henson fan.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, who so am I?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Uh just and he played a key role in so
many different projects. People just go to the Muppets more
often than not, and there there's so much more, so
much more than that, so much more.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And had an opportunity a couple of weeks ago, I
was hanging out with Brian Henson and we were just
like talking about two different projects. And you know, he himself,
he's got a great show that might tour in the
next year called puppet Up and it's just just what
a what a phenomenally talented family.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, oh he was. I read a great book by
Brad Meltzer about Jim Henson. That was just I mean,
it's an extraordinary talent. Let me ask you this as
far as how many how many artists are going to
be on stage, how many musicians are involved in this one?
(10:23):
And I was surprised to see and reading the notes
on this too. I didn't remember that Evil Dad. I
guess it makes sense that it was an NC seventeen
film because despite the fact that I'm fifty eight, I
think the first time, I think the first time I
ever said I only ever rented Evil Dead. I don't
you know the first one any what was that eighty one?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I was, you know, Yeah, so I did one.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
This came out, Yeah, so I didn't see it in
the theater, so I just never knew it was I
suppose that's really only for Gore.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, yeah, I mean it still carries the ANC seventeen rating,
but we have to remember it's by the nineteen eighty
one one standard.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, because but that's why it took me by surprise,
because I thought that there's not any nudity or it is.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I don't remember foul language. It's just Gore.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's just Gore, and it you know, there's something like,
there's something like unbelievably punk rock about the nineteen eighties
n C seventeen rating, and you actually kind of wear
that with like a badge of pride. And anybody that's
old enough to remember the satanic panic of the eighties,
(11:32):
you know, this is definitely like a callback to how
kind of ridiculous that all was. But you know, definitely
like punk rock sensibility.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, Sam Raimi signing off on all this such a
talent man, just such a talent.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Did he sign off on all really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah. Sam is a direct partner and directly licensed the
film to us through his production company, Ghost House Pictures.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, you're doing I just it's great stuff. It's Black
Ink Presents John Kinsner, CEO of this, and just some
great movies. It's a Tuesday night, It's Evil Dead in
concert at Cold Street Music Hall, which, like we said,
perfect Halloween season. I want to see that Lost Boys
one happen. That's a particular favorite of mine. Keep you
(12:20):
posted on, you know, as the roster grows and looking
like you could become a regular on the show, because
I just love what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I appreciate it. We love being on the show and
we love New Haven so been so great and so
kind to us, and we'll keep the hits coming.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'll be seeing you there that night with that nineteen
year old.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
We'll probably have a toy chainsaw bring it on, all right,
but man, thanks John,
Hey, this is Vinny Hey Nne for words. I never
thought i'd say in my life. Evil Dead in concert.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Isn't it beautiful?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I mean, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Huge fan of the series. Bruce Campbell's my boy. I've
got a great Bruce Campbell's story. But I don't know
how you guys are making this one work.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Man, it's this, It's this chaotic combination of strings and screens.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, yeah, because you're not Hare Nightmare before Christmas Batman.
I mean this, Danny Elfman, we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We know the music.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I can't really think of a score a very familiar
score attached to the Evil Dead films, which are now
back and better than ever.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Too.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Absolutely, you know, Joe Luduka is a great friend of
ours and this was his first score, and really, when
you're watching the film, the score that he put together
is really focused on raising the psychological tension of the
scene and in the room and when you have an
(01:07):
opportunity to sit down in the theater, and just like Labyrinth,
most people have never heard this score on anything but
their speakers. And I'm telling you, when you're sitting down
in the theater and this string and synth and percussion
ensemble gets to be right there in your face. Oh baby,
(01:29):
does it pack a punch?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I mean I would imagine, how does it?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So the music is going to be accompanying the film
at College Street. I want to make sure I got
this right too. It looks like the date got moved.
It got moved from September twenty seventh to the twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Third, that's right. Yeah, just want to make sure the
prestation reached out and they they needed to move the
date and that worked for us. So we did move
the date.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So you'll be why the movie and and there'll just
be a live orchestra the entire stretch of the film, right, which,
if I'm not if I'm remembering.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Right, John, fairly short, right, eighty some odd minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, it's not a super long film, but the ensemble
will be up there the whole time, raising the tension
and bringing, you know, bringing, helping to outline the scare factor.
These scenes really really pop a lot harder when that
music is just blaring.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah. Well, I got to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know, hats off to you and and everybody at
blank ink, black Ink, excuse me, black Ink Presents, because
you know, really hot right now are classic movies from
the from the old days. They come through, they tour
the country and you'll get one of the stars from
the film to do a Q and A afterwards, and
it's very cool, you know. And I felt the same
(02:56):
thing about us all right.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Now. Another new thing is.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
We'll bring through classic movie, even a cult classic sometimes
and live orchestra to a.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Company.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yet but you guys, it's like you've you've got a
lock on all of them.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I mean, we're very fortunate that we were one
of the very first companies to really invest our time
and energy in this space, you know, starting all the
way back in like twenty thirteen when these types of
productions were incredibly rare, and now to be one of
the companies that is continually you know, changing the model
(03:33):
and remolding how we get to experience some of these films,
you know, because things like Nightmare Before Christmas or Batman,
you know, those are huge scores, and of course they're
phenomenal films and they go out and they play with
the country's top orchestras. But stuff like Evil Dead is
(03:54):
never going to go to an orchestra, you know, right,
But that doesn't mean that there isn't an norm terminus
fan base and a bunch of people that just want
to like hang and celebrate it and where our favorite
ash Cause plays or Dead Eite looks and come out
and hang and really get together around an evening of horror.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh absolutely. When I told my nineteen year old my
son about this, he flipped out so excited, especially because
and are you noticing that too, Because this is a
pretty ambitious tour you're doing, you know, September in October,
that's prime real estate to see Evil Dead in concert
if you want to get your Halloween on. Is there
(04:38):
a difference between you know, doing the shows in the
fall versus the spring turnout wise or maybe not, but
they're probably elevated at the very least excitement.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wise, they're elevated. I think that this content is a
little bit more prominent in the psyche of the ticket holder.
You know, horror f aren't typically casuals. Meaning if there's
a great horror film or a great horror experience, I
think a lot of horror fans would come out to
(05:09):
it year round. But when you know, taking it to
market and working with these venues and working with these promoters,
there was an elevated desire to try and land it
in the bread basket of celebrating, you know, around Halloween,
around horror time, and looking at it as you know,
(05:31):
something that you could go out and celebrate while you know,
we're in like the mainstream of celebrating, right.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And I know you and I talked last time around
too about people showing up dressed as characters from Labyrinth.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I don't think you can.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I don't think you can really do that with Evil Dead, can't.
I mean you could come listen, ladies and gentlemen. You
can come with a toy chainsaw maybe right, But I
mean I don't know, can you pull off costumes for
Evil Dead? Because that is a lot of the fun
es actually during the Halloween season, but not necessary either.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Not necessary, But I think that there is a lot
of opportunity to come out as a dead eye or.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know, as oh the way, what am I thinking? Sure?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You know, and I think that that's like part of
the fun. Or just come with like, you know, your
favorite prosthetic wound or you know, boy chain saw no
boomsticks though, no boomstick.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, I gotta say for you you just said ash
Ash is a great Haro. You know, hats off to
Campbell for I hesitate to say milking that for because
I don't think that's what it was. But I mean,
he just had the series that lasted for a good
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He's you know.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That that characters lasted a lot longer than probably he
even thought he would. He came to town for a screening
in New Haven, blockover from where you're going to be
with College Street for this show on September twenty third,
Evil Dead in concert and he did a Q and
A after a screening of a fairly new movie of his.
But this is about twenty years ago, and we were
(07:04):
looking for a new Bond at the time, just like
we are now. You know, everybody's wondering who the new
James Bond is going to be at I thrust my
hand in there this before Daniel Craig, and he said
you right over there, you know, and he's got that
dry sense of humor, and I said, why aren't you
accepting the offer to be the next James Bond?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And it did, it brought it brought the house down.
But he made just such a.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Typical Bruce Campbell expression of I don't even really know
what that means. I'm not being offered that role, but
everybody else kind of got the joke, like ash as
as James Bond would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It would definitely be a unique pivot for the franchise.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yes, now I wanted to ask you this too, And
again we are on with John Kinsner, who's just plays
a key role in all of these classic films, getting
the floor orchestra treatment. And this is a big tour
if I'm remembering correctly. Last time I let you go,
(08:10):
I said what's your dream movie?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So for a second I was thinking, I think this
is it? But no, it was like a weird jit
was it was?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Was it Jim Henson movie? What what is your your
dream one?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No? The dream one like my ultimate Mount Everett dream
film that will probably never get done for a bajillion
different reasons. But it was Tron Legacy and concert with
Daft Punk huh.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
With Wow, geez, you even have who you're gonna play?
I don't. I didn't remember that. Could you have given
a different answer last time? Or is that is that
your go to answer?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No? I mean that when when when anybody asked me,
like what is the Pinnacle one? But then I have
a bunch of others. You know, there's you know, I'd
love to do a Lost Boy this one, you know,
I'd love to do uh. And you know, there has
been some conversation around Dark Crystal.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That might have been it. John, I think it was
Dark Crystal maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah. I mean, I think that is definitely deserving of
its flowers and its opportunity to be out in the
market and for people to come and celebrate it and
celebrate the music and the characters. You know, I'm a big,
clearly big Jim Henson fan.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, who so am I?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Uh just and he played a key role in so
many different projects. People just go to the Muppets more
often than not, and there there's so much more, so
much more than that, so much more.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And had an opportunity a couple of weeks ago, I
was hanging out with Brian Henson and we were just
like talking about two different projects. And you know, he himself,
he's got a great show that might tour in the
next year called puppet Up and it's just just what
a what a phenomenally talented family.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, oh he was. I read a great book by
Brad Meltzer about Jim Henson. That was just I mean,
it's an extraordinary talent. Let me ask you this as
far as how many how many artists are going to
be on stage, how many musicians are involved in this one?
(10:23):
And I was surprised to see and reading the notes
on this too. I didn't remember that Evil Dad. I
guess it makes sense that it was an NC seventeen
film because despite the fact that I'm fifty eight, I
think the first time, I think the first time I
ever said I only ever rented Evil Dead. I don't
you know the first one any what was that eighty one?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I was, you know, Yeah, so I did one.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
This came out, Yeah, so I didn't see it in
the theater, so I just never knew it was I
suppose that's really only for Gore.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, yeah, I mean it still carries the ANC seventeen rating,
but we have to remember it's by the nineteen eighty
one one standard.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, because but that's why it took me by surprise,
because I thought that there's not any nudity or it is.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I don't remember foul language. It's just Gore.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's just Gore, and it you know, there's something like,
there's something like unbelievably punk rock about the nineteen eighties
n C seventeen rating, and you actually kind of wear
that with like a badge of pride. And anybody that's
old enough to remember the satanic panic of the eighties,
(11:32):
you know, this is definitely like a callback to how
kind of ridiculous that all was. But you know, definitely
like punk rock sensibility.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, Sam Raimi signing off on all this such a
talent man, just such a talent.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Did he sign off on all really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah. Sam is a direct partner and directly licensed the
film to us through his production company, Ghost House Pictures.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, you're doing I just it's great stuff. It's Black
Ink Presents John Kinsner, CEO of this, and just some
great movies. It's a Tuesday night, It's Evil Dead in
concert at Cold Street Music Hall, which, like we said,
perfect Halloween season. I want to see that Lost Boys
one happen. That's a particular favorite of mine. Keep you
(12:20):
posted on, you know, as the roster grows and looking
like you could become a regular on the show, because
I just love what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I appreciate it. We love being on the show and
we love New Haven so been so great and so
kind to us, and we'll keep the hits coming.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'll be seeing you there that night with that nineteen
year old.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
We'll probably have a toy chainsaw bring it on, all right,
but man, thanks John,
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