Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go to the project hotline right now. Good morning,
Welcome to the Vinnie Penn Project.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, Vinnie, how's it going? This is Ryan Fozia, my.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Man, I know it is. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Things going well on the campaign trail, very.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good, A lot of energy going all over the state.
It's been really good.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, I just had who did I hear from recently?
I think it was right here in Hamden? Was it?
Jonathan Katz? It's been really interesting. It's been a real
show of unity this time around that I have not
seen before all these years really of covering races here,
been on the air fifteen years here, but going back
to the EROSCO event, no, the Campusano event and East
(00:41):
Haven the Cat's event here, like you're showing up. There's
a lot of unity in the Connecticut's Republican party this.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, that's the term we've used unity because we haven't
had it in the past. And if you're not united,
you're not going to beat the majority.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It is as simple as that. And you know, I
would talk here on the air about the division on
both sides of the aisle really and the need to
like come together locally and nationally, I feel so it's
been great to see like who's usually I'm trying to think,
who's with you? Like, well, it was so at the
(01:21):
campus on a one it was you. A Roscoe was
at that. I feel like there was a third person
as well. And Cats rattled off a handful of names too.
Do you guys all coordinate, like, let's do this together,
let's show support.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You know occasionally, but you know, guys like Peter Lemage
and Matty, I mean they're everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You know, it feels like we should all be carpooling
because I see them at every event and they're good
guys and listen. Running for statewide office is a major undertaking,
But the most important thing is showing up and talking
to people and showing support right now for our local
candidates on road B for the municipal elections and early
(02:03):
voting started this Monday, so please get out and vote
to everyone out there. But you know, there's a lot
of work to do, and but the most important thing
is showing up and meeting people and listening, and that's
how you learn and ultimately that's how you lead.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, and you're still waiting on finding out if you're
even taking on the governor. I mean he still hasn't announced.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's exactly right. You know, it's been You would think
that the decision would be made or the announcement would
be made already, you know, closing in the year on
the election next year. But we had to make a
decision for ourselves. No matter what, we want change in
the state. And I think the state's ready for change.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, you know, I was suspecting for a while he
just might not. And you know, you tend to read
into things. Yesterday when I heard that or read and
maybe it's not even true, but that the governor was
going to reach out to UH on war to center
on war about the cholesterol to sign and say you
(03:06):
let's let's give an apology. Here. I turned to my
producer and I'm like, he's about to announce he's going
to run. Because whenever he does something that caters to
dare I say, the middle, he shows a little because
he's done a couple of things, you know, when he
shot down the you know, getting paid while you're striking.
(03:30):
You know, those on the left are like, what are
you doing? What a conservative move? Whenever he caters to
the right, even the least little bit. Although here it's
common sense. I feel that's him just getting ready to
announce he's going to go, he's going to run.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, you know, it was interesting. The Steam Mirror for
Anyone did a couple of stories where they foied Freedom
of Information Act, the correspondence within the administration on the
the Housing Bill five zero zero two, and he could
really get an insight into the thought process. I mean,
they wanted to sign the bill, but they were kind
(04:05):
of intimidated by the grassroots kind of political uprising objections
to the bill. So you know that does give an
insight as well.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, how did you feel about the It's so interesting,
you know, on war it kind of turned into something.
I wonder if there's although he's now standing his ground,
he did just you know, you're walking by someone holding
a sign. We do live in a day and age
like there's a part of me that wants to be
like you got to be smarter than that. You know,
(04:39):
you got to look at the sign and decide if
this is something you want to live with. You are
a doctor too, man, and yes, it can be absolutely,
he says, it's a stretch to I wish him dead.
You're saying cholesterol your jobs. I wouldn't call it a stretch,
but I can see him being like, I just posed
(05:01):
for a picture with someone at a work, clearly on
the same page about a lot of things. But he's
standing tall, he's standing by this. How do you feel
about it?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, I see, I think it's really objectionable. I think
Senator Anmore should apologize. I think, you know, for it's
one thing when kind of regular citizens maybe you know,
we'll say something that's a little untoward. But you know,
people in elected office, whether they're state senators or congressmen
or anything else, should be held to a standard by
(05:32):
the people who elected them. And I think one of
the standards that we all agree on, you know, we
certainly say it after tragedies, is that we cannot be
ratcheting up the rhetoric. We cannot be further dividing our country.
We cannot be wishing death upon our political opponents, especially
when those political opponents have had assassination attempts against some
(05:53):
multiple times. Then we're worthin inches of dying because of it.
I mean, we can't have it this way in our country.
And it's exactly this type of rhetoric that I think
ratchets up the division and the hate between parties, and
we can't have that as Americans. I mean, we are
fellow Americans at the end of the day, and this
(06:13):
rhetoric from someone in a position of leadership, I think
makes it worse, does not make it better. I think,
you know, he posted it, he defended it. You know,
he knows what he's doing. You know, it's a shame.
You know, he's I know, you know, you know, I
interact with him. He's a polite man. But I think
he should know better, and I think he should apologize.
I think the governor's comments were we're better than I
(06:34):
you know, expected on it too. You know, this isn't
right and it makes our country more divided, and we
need to do the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, no, you just said something there. It's a real
shame on me because that is an important part. I
did not. I don't follow him, you know, on social media.
It wasn't some big bold decision that I may I
just don't. I did not realize him posting it is
(07:02):
is making a statement. He has signed off on it.
At that point. I initially just you know, you post
for a picture you realize what it is later always
had gotten picked up and it's circulating him posting it
does its next level, and I did not know that
he did. So I appreciate you enlightening me. And again
wrong with Ryan fozziol right now. One thing that frustrated
(07:25):
me too is we have this horrible story here in
Connecticut and there's a move now, a petition being signed.
You know this, this is the tough stuff that I
have to do as a broadcaster, is you know, covering
the story of a twelve year old who fell through
DCF's cracks. The latest story there a horrific life, a
short life, and it didn't seem like one minute of
(07:47):
it was any good, which is why there's only one
photo of her smiling that we that were being shown.
And now we've got Mimi's law heading our way, and
I you know, I don't want to corner you on that,
but it was frustrating for me to cover that all
on Friday, watch get updates, horrible updates. Sorry, just kept
(08:08):
getting worse and worse across the weekend. And our you know,
local elected officials in this state are marching no kings.
Chris Murphy's got no comment on Mimi's law on Wars
doctor no comment on this horrible story that's close to home,
(08:28):
I would. The governor himself hasn't said anything on it,
and it saddens me and frustrates me.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It's an absolutely tragic case, you know, that poor girl.
It's so heartbreaking, and you know, unfortunately it's now multiple
cases where it appears to be that there was a
failure on the part of DCF basically the Department of
Children's Services, who's responsible for, you know, monitoring cases like this,
(08:58):
and the child is basically you know, gone for a
year and dc it didn't send up any red flags
at d CF, and we've had other cases like this,
and and you know, there are some people in the
state who want to use it as a pretext for
you know, going after or significantly ratcheting up regulation and homeschoolers.
(09:20):
You know, that doesn't seem fair when this wasn't a
case of homeschooling. This is a case of just straight
up abuse and ultimately murder. And you know, it's totally tragic,
but but there there was clearly a failure in the
state bureaucracy at d CF. It was not the first
case of it and I think we should have the
(09:40):
expectation in our state as citizens that the people who
are charged with keeping us, you know, keeping people safe,
you know, in the state government are actually doing their job,
you know. And you know we have these, you know,
big protests and protestations, even from senior elected officials in
the state. You know, why don't we make sure the
state government works and doing its basic responsibilities, you know,
(10:04):
before we're protesting others in other places. Let's make sure
the stake government works and keeps people safe. It's not
doing that right now, and it needs to.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I you know, my thought is I feel as
if and from all the stories that I've done, it's
just one on top of another. I think DCF, we
need a total house cleaning there. Let me ask you, right,
is that something a sitting governor could do? Were you governor,
what would you do with this time? I haven't even
seen Governor Lamont comment on that or on DCF. He
(10:34):
has commented on DCF in the past, though, But what
a sitting governor have the power to be? Like, I
want a clear house, I want fresh blood in there.
I want people who care. It's a good job with
a great pension you can. You got to stop saying
we misplaced the file. I have done too many stories
(10:54):
that include that line in the press release.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, especially when people's lives are at stake and the
governor is in charge of DCF. It's an executive branch office.
And so you know, I'm a firm believer that you
run for office because you want responsibility. So when you're
in office, you should take responsibility. And at a certain point,
all these failures at different departments in the administration, you know,
(11:18):
whether it's it's total failure and incompetence like a DCF,
or its corruption like in school construction with Costa Diamonts,
who's currently on federal trial. You know, it just adds
up to the point that you know, the bucks has
to stop somewhere. It can't just always be someone else's fault.
We elect the governor and an administration to carry out
(11:41):
the basic duties of our state government and perform services
to the public. And you know, if there's so many
repeated failures and no real action on it, it's always
reactive not proactive. I mean, you should fire the people
in charge of it. You know, if there's these repeated failures,
there should be accountability. I mean, remember for many years
DCF wasn't in office in person, working in person, Well,
(12:05):
things fall through the cracks more easily if people are
always working remote. That was you know, that was one
clear example of a difference of opinion between Republicans and
Democrats in Hartford over how our state bureaucracy should be working.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's important to note. What's your take on the Diamantes
trial thus far?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I don't know that I have a special insight. I mean,
you know, the one thing that you know kind of
strikes me is just I can't when I try to
remember all the scandals that have occurred within the Laws
administration over seven years, I can't name them all off
the top of my head. You know, there's one after another.
It's the school construction scandal. Now it's the DCF. You know,
(12:49):
there's the arp of scandal. There's the Earmark scandal. There's
you know, the state peer was supposed to cost ninety
million dollars and it's cost over three hundred million dollars.
You know, it's one, you know, failure or scandal after another,
and the buck has to stop somewhere at some point.
I mean, we can't accept this constant failures of our
(13:09):
state bureaucracy with the public funds and with the public trust,
over and over again. And you know, rather than any
specific you know, you know, eye opening, you know fact
or with the current trial with Costa, it's really just
the repeated scandals and failures of the state government that
(13:30):
I don't think should be acceptable to the public.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's well said. I'm glad to get you back on.
I'm glad the campaigning is going well, and it must
be because you now have there's now a middle person.
I used to hear from Ryan Fozio personally. Now I've
got somebody read it. How are you deceivening Vinnie? My
name is Eddie and I'm with Ryan Fozio. So must
be going well. You have a handler at this point,
(13:56):
and I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
To see you can't. I can't. I can't handle myselff.
Come on Anny either that.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, but I mean we have each other's cell phone. It.
When I saw that last night, I laughed. I thought
things must be going well. He's got to He's got
a lot of it. Is that your campaign manager? You
need one of those rights? That's who that was.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
No, No, it's just you know, just just people, people.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Helping out, helping out.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You know, it'll it'll get the campaign will get bigger
over time, but you know, right now, it's just me
and a couple of people showing up.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah. Well, I'm a fan and you have my support,
and I appreciate you taking the time to come on
today and talk about a couple of things we didn't
even plan to talk about, some tough stuff as well.
It's Ryan Fozzio. We're waiting on that announcement to see
exactly who the competition is. You know, will it include
the governor of Connecticut. I got a good feeling that
could that could be announced Friday. We shall see.
Let's go to the project hotline right now. Good morning,
Welcome to the Vinnie Penn Project.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, Vinnie, how's it going? This is Ryan Fozia, my.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Man, I know it is. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Things going well on the campaign trail, very.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good, A lot of energy going all over the state.
It's been really good.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, I just had who did I hear from recently?
I think it was right here in Hamden? Was it?
Jonathan Katz? It's been really interesting. It's been a real
show of unity this time around that I have not
seen before all these years really of covering races here,
been on the air fifteen years here, but going back
to the EROSCO event, no, the Campusano event and East
(00:41):
Haven the Cat's event here, like you're showing up. There's
a lot of unity in the Connecticut's Republican party this.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, that's the term we've used unity because we haven't
had it in the past. And if you're not united,
you're not going to beat the majority.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It is as simple as that. And you know, I
would talk here on the air about the division on
both sides of the aisle really and the need to
like come together locally and nationally, I feel so it's
been great to see like who's usually I'm trying to think,
who's with you? Like, well, it was so at the
(01:21):
campus on a one it was you. A Roscoe was
at that. I feel like there was a third person
as well. And Cats rattled off a handful of names too.
Do you guys all coordinate, like, let's do this together,
let's show support.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You know occasionally, but you know, guys like Peter Lemage
and Matty, I mean they're everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You know, it feels like we should all be carpooling
because I see them at every event and they're good
guys and listen. Running for statewide office is a major undertaking,
But the most important thing is showing up and talking
to people and showing support right now for our local
candidates on road B for the municipal elections and early
(02:03):
voting started this Monday, so please get out and vote
to everyone out there. But you know, there's a lot
of work to do, and but the most important thing
is showing up and meeting people and listening, and that's
how you learn and ultimately that's how you lead.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, and you're still waiting on finding out if you're
even taking on the governor. I mean he still hasn't announced.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's exactly right. You know, it's been You would think
that the decision would be made or the announcement would
be made already, you know, closing in the year on
the election next year. But we had to make a
decision for ourselves. No matter what, we want change in
the state. And I think the state's ready for change.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, you know, I was suspecting for a while he
just might not. And you know, you tend to read
into things. Yesterday when I heard that or read and
maybe it's not even true, but that the governor was
going to reach out to UH on war to center
on war about the cholesterol to sign and say you
(03:06):
let's let's give an apology. Here. I turned to my
producer and I'm like, he's about to announce he's going
to run. Because whenever he does something that caters to
dare I say, the middle, he shows a little because
he's done a couple of things, you know, when he
shot down the you know, getting paid while you're striking.
(03:30):
You know, those on the left are like, what are
you doing? What a conservative move? Whenever he caters to
the right, even the least little bit. Although here it's
common sense. I feel that's him just getting ready to
announce he's going to go, he's going to run.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, you know, it was interesting. The Steam Mirror for
Anyone did a couple of stories where they foied Freedom
of Information Act, the correspondence within the administration on the
the Housing Bill five zero zero two, and he could
really get an insight into the thought process. I mean,
they wanted to sign the bill, but they were kind
(04:05):
of intimidated by the grassroots kind of political uprising objections
to the bill. So you know that does give an
insight as well.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, how did you feel about the It's so interesting,
you know, on war it kind of turned into something.
I wonder if there's although he's now standing his ground,
he did just you know, you're walking by someone holding
a sign. We do live in a day and age
like there's a part of me that wants to be
like you got to be smarter than that. You know,
(04:39):
you got to look at the sign and decide if
this is something you want to live with. You are
a doctor too, man, and yes, it can be absolutely,
he says, it's a stretch to I wish him dead.
You're saying cholesterol your jobs. I wouldn't call it a stretch,
but I can see him being like, I just posed
(05:01):
for a picture with someone at a work, clearly on
the same page about a lot of things. But he's
standing tall, he's standing by this. How do you feel
about it?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, I see, I think it's really objectionable. I think
Senator Anmore should apologize. I think, you know, for it's
one thing when kind of regular citizens maybe you know,
we'll say something that's a little untoward. But you know,
people in elected office, whether they're state senators or congressmen
or anything else, should be held to a standard by
(05:32):
the people who elected them. And I think one of
the standards that we all agree on, you know, we
certainly say it after tragedies, is that we cannot be
ratcheting up the rhetoric. We cannot be further dividing our country.
We cannot be wishing death upon our political opponents, especially
when those political opponents have had assassination attempts against some
(05:53):
multiple times. Then we're worthin inches of dying because of it.
I mean, we can't have it this way in our country.
And it's exactly this type of rhetoric that I think
ratchets up the division and the hate between parties, and
we can't have that as Americans. I mean, we are
fellow Americans at the end of the day, and this
(06:13):
rhetoric from someone in a position of leadership, I think
makes it worse, does not make it better. I think,
you know, he posted it, he defended it. You know,
he knows what he's doing. You know, it's a shame.
You know, he's I know, you know, you know, I
interact with him. He's a polite man. But I think
he should know better, and I think he should apologize.
I think the governor's comments were we're better than I
(06:34):
you know, expected on it too. You know, this isn't
right and it makes our country more divided, and we
need to do the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, no, you just said something there. It's a real
shame on me because that is an important part. I
did not. I don't follow him, you know, on social media.
It wasn't some big bold decision that I may I
just don't. I did not realize him posting it is
(07:02):
is making a statement. He has signed off on it.
At that point. I initially just you know, you post
for a picture you realize what it is later always
had gotten picked up and it's circulating him posting it
does its next level, and I did not know that
he did. So I appreciate you enlightening me. And again
wrong with Ryan fozziol right now. One thing that frustrated
(07:25):
me too is we have this horrible story here in
Connecticut and there's a move now, a petition being signed.
You know this, this is the tough stuff that I
have to do as a broadcaster, is you know, covering
the story of a twelve year old who fell through
DCF's cracks. The latest story there a horrific life, a
short life, and it didn't seem like one minute of
(07:47):
it was any good, which is why there's only one
photo of her smiling that we that were being shown.
And now we've got Mimi's law heading our way, and
I you know, I don't want to corner you on that,
but it was frustrating for me to cover that all
on Friday, watch get updates, horrible updates. Sorry, just kept
(08:08):
getting worse and worse across the weekend. And our you know,
local elected officials in this state are marching no kings.
Chris Murphy's got no comment on Mimi's law on Wars
doctor no comment on this horrible story that's close to home,
(08:28):
I would. The governor himself hasn't said anything on it,
and it saddens me and frustrates me.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It's an absolutely tragic case, you know, that poor girl.
It's so heartbreaking, and you know, unfortunately it's now multiple
cases where it appears to be that there was a
failure on the part of DCF basically the Department of
Children's Services, who's responsible for, you know, monitoring cases like this,
(08:58):
and the child is basically you know, gone for a
year and dc it didn't send up any red flags
at d CF, and we've had other cases like this,
and and you know, there are some people in the
state who want to use it as a pretext for
you know, going after or significantly ratcheting up regulation and homeschoolers.
(09:20):
You know, that doesn't seem fair when this wasn't a
case of homeschooling. This is a case of just straight
up abuse and ultimately murder. And you know, it's totally tragic,
but but there there was clearly a failure in the
state bureaucracy at d CF. It was not the first
case of it and I think we should have the
(09:40):
expectation in our state as citizens that the people who
are charged with keeping us, you know, keeping people safe,
you know, in the state government are actually doing their job,
you know. And you know we have these, you know,
big protests and protestations, even from senior elected officials in
the state. You know, why don't we make sure the
state government works and doing its basic responsibilities, you know,
(10:04):
before we're protesting others in other places. Let's make sure
the stake government works and keeps people safe. It's not
doing that right now, and it needs to.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I you know, my thought is I feel as
if and from all the stories that I've done, it's
just one on top of another. I think DCF, we
need a total house cleaning there. Let me ask you, right,
is that something a sitting governor could do? Were you governor,
what would you do with this time? I haven't even
seen Governor Lamont comment on that or on DCF. He
(10:34):
has commented on DCF in the past, though, But what
a sitting governor have the power to be? Like, I
want a clear house, I want fresh blood in there.
I want people who care. It's a good job with
a great pension you can. You got to stop saying
we misplaced the file. I have done too many stories
(10:54):
that include that line in the press release.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, especially when people's lives are at stake and the
governor is in charge of DCF. It's an executive branch office.
And so you know, I'm a firm believer that you
run for office because you want responsibility. So when you're
in office, you should take responsibility. And at a certain point,
all these failures at different departments in the administration, you know,
(11:18):
whether it's it's total failure and incompetence like a DCF,
or its corruption like in school construction with Costa Diamonts,
who's currently on federal trial. You know, it just adds
up to the point that you know, the bucks has
to stop somewhere. It can't just always be someone else's fault.
We elect the governor and an administration to carry out
(11:41):
the basic duties of our state government and perform services
to the public. And you know, if there's so many
repeated failures and no real action on it, it's always
reactive not proactive. I mean, you should fire the people
in charge of it. You know, if there's these repeated failures,
there should be accountability. I mean, remember for many years
DCF wasn't in office in person, working in person, Well,
(12:05):
things fall through the cracks more easily if people are
always working remote. That was you know, that was one
clear example of a difference of opinion between Republicans and
Democrats in Hartford over how our state bureaucracy should be working.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's important to note. What's your take on the Diamantes
trial thus far?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I don't know that I have a special insight. I mean,
you know, the one thing that you know kind of
strikes me is just I can't when I try to
remember all the scandals that have occurred within the Laws
administration over seven years, I can't name them all off
the top of my head. You know, there's one after another.
It's the school construction scandal. Now it's the DCF. You know,
(12:49):
there's the arp of scandal. There's the Earmark scandal. There's
you know, the state peer was supposed to cost ninety
million dollars and it's cost over three hundred million dollars.
You know, it's one, you know, failure or scandal after another,
and the buck has to stop somewhere at some point.
I mean, we can't accept this constant failures of our
(13:09):
state bureaucracy with the public funds and with the public trust,
over and over again. And you know, rather than any
specific you know, you know, eye opening, you know fact
or with the current trial with Costa, it's really just
the repeated scandals and failures of the state government that
(13:30):
I don't think should be acceptable to the public.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's well said. I'm glad to get you back on.
I'm glad the campaigning is going well, and it must
be because you now have there's now a middle person.
I used to hear from Ryan Fozio personally. Now I've
got somebody read it. How are you deceivening Vinnie? My
name is Eddie and I'm with Ryan Fozio. So must
be going well. You have a handler at this point,
(13:56):
and I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
To see you can't. I can't. I can't handle myselff.
Come on Anny either that.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, but I mean we have each other's cell phone. It.
When I saw that last night, I laughed. I thought
things must be going well. He's got to He's got
a lot of it. Is that your campaign manager? You
need one of those rights? That's who that was.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
No, No, it's just you know, just just people, people.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Helping out, helping out.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You know, it'll it'll get the campaign will get bigger
over time, but you know, right now, it's just me
and a couple of people showing up.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah. Well, I'm a fan and you have my support,
and I appreciate you taking the time to come on
today and talk about a couple of things we didn't
even plan to talk about, some tough stuff as well.
It's Ryan Fozzio. We're waiting on that announcement to see
exactly who the competition is. You know, will it include
the governor of Connecticut. I got a good feeling that
could that could be announced Friday. We shall see.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.